ived been taught by my father with the style of shotokan since i was 7 ..i have no rank or degree but my father gave me his old gi and belt.. and i dont have any formal training on a dojo but i think it seems all he taught me is a genuine style of shotokan as i watch this video.. thanks for sharing.. i wish i could train again with my very own sensei.. my father..
You know i taught i was alone our life is the same my uncle taught me korean karate i never join any dojo i only train alone with him good too know im not alone in this path
To be honest. I've trained Shotokan Karate for alomost 8 years. I started in a dojo in my local town and then with my fellow soldiers and officers in the Danish Army. I recognized the wall sparring. You had a chance to get hurt and bloody but it was a training where you have to stand your ground no matter what. Because in a real fight you can't just surrender yourself and let yourself get hurt or worse. So in a way it might be brutal but our officers intention was to teach us to survive :)
japan military are not stupid. Shotokan is for real fighting. No referee, no coaches, and no watching of videos of your opponent. It so happen that thai people watches karate and found it how to counter. Right now Muay Thai or any kickboxing style are being beaten-up by Sanda and yawyan style. "As Yamamoto Musashi said, Don't use your weapon over and over, your enemy might find its weakness"
you can still train hard and fight hard without having to do serious damage. I've gotten a few bloody noses, busted lips, chipped teeth, black eyes, it's part of martial arts. but the goal isn't to try to seriously hurt your training partner. just because you take safety precautions doesn't mean you're soft. and it's all good if you can afford to get injuries fixed, but there's no sense in it for someone like me with no health insurance to break his bones during training just to show I'm tough.
I bet the point of the bloody sparring(always happens in military, especially, USMC martial arts where you fight on rocky ground having wounds and injuries) also helps you to lower pain tolerance and boost your adrenaline for more power and enhance the survivability...
There's a difference between martial arts training and also martial arts training in military way which is more brutal and risky for both partners pr battle buddies...
I trained in shotokan for a little under 8 years and I can honestly say that I miss it very much. I was young, and throughout my growin up years and young adult years it has taught me self discipline, morals, and how to avoid confrontation, unless it cant be avoided. Also to mention, great physical fitness. Man after seeing this ive got to get back into it
I'm mostly into bodybuilding now but still look to this video, all these years later, when I feel the need to be inspired by those with a strong spirit.
No messing, direct,powerful, take out your opponent. i am a JKA black belt but have found that many other high grades are confused by "sport" kumite and actual application, we must all keep practising and enjoying our training but let's not get confused. This is a fantastic clip. Ossu!
One of Gichin Funakoshi's 20 precepts of Karate is "Low stance for beginners; natural stance for advanced students.", this proves that his intentions for the deep stances of shotokan are to strengthen the legs of the beginners.
Not the watered down rubbish that we get in the West a lot of the time. There used to a be a franchise where I lived where all the sensei was interested in was making money and the karate was useless. Glad he's retired, but for 20 years he was karate in my county.
i have to admit, I didn't always have a good opinion of shotokan because when i was in europe most people used to practice sport karate more than anything else. But the more I read about Funakoshi and get to see displays of genuine shotokan, and the more appreciate the meaning of Karate... ooossssss
WZDavid_007 it depends on the branch of Shotokan, the branch shown in this video is the style as taught by the JKA, the “flashier” branch is the one that is more globally popular and what people typically see outside of Japan. The easiest way to distinguish the two is that the more popular variant has deeper stances and more reliance on powerful kicks compared to the JKA variant which has a more squared upright posture and relies more on the hands and sweeps
A couple very good things I wanted to point out: 1:20: guy gets his knee kicked out 2:13: punches aimed at Muneo's THROAT 3:05: kick to GROIN 3:31: punch to the GROIN 3:48: kote-uchi strike to BLOOD VESSEL These are the fundamental targets of Karate. No wonder the JSDF is so well trained...this "sport" style allows things illegal here in the west! Thanks for posting, Kenpostory!
3:05 "the instructor yoshi kamamuneio, who has won several of these competitions, will demonstrate some of his technical marvels" yea, very nice kick to the balls
You know, this Karate video is impressive. I've seen alot of watered down Karate over the years and its good see Karate done in a pristine and powerful fashion.
I love the end demonstration. I always wondered why nobody uses those ground kicks except karate and kung fu...you can get so much power and surprise if you both hit the ground around the same time
Because going to the ground to kick if you don't need to like in this demo is f*cking stupid, just like most sanbon kumite and goshin waza in Japanese karate. It's worth practicing "ne geri" for sure, but it's more intuitive to know how to kick someone while you're still standing.
I agree 100% I was speaking in the "all things being equal" scenario that you mentioned. I'd like to add that I have the greatest respect for boxing. I have a little boxing training myself, but my thing is karate. I firmly believe that boxers are some of the toughest, most well conditioned athletes on the planet, especially at the professional level. Yes, there is a HUGE difference between a professional boxer, and a person who does karate as a hobby, but some karateka do train just as hard.
Impressed by this upload, shotokan is my style but also have a lot of respect for other forms of martial arts, if u think a style is not worthy step in front of a good exponent of that style and tell them so, good luck
kuribo1 Good shotokan is supposed to be that way, it ignores the flashiness of many other styles and takes the mentality of total defeat for your opponent as quickly as possible. Granted, having said that there is still "katas" and other traditional aspects to it. Where I learned, we did all aspects, though our Sensei always had us train with the mindset for street fights and total violence against an opponent. It's a good style.
I think the three of us pretty much agree on the concept. It is just the details that we debate about (I love shotokan, he doesn't) . We are all just karateka sharing our knowledge. That is how we learn. It is a beautiful thing. Have a great night. OSU!
If more people saw this, they wouldn't think karate is a joke. This is the type of training i always wished existed over here in the states...let alone in OHIO where i live :(
the old style of shotokan ryu karate also used to teach kubo weapons too like the tonfa, the bo, the sai, and also combined with kodokan judo to make it more a self defense art not the water down version sport like they have today
+Ricardo Diaz Again, it depends on your Sensei. If they are qualified, they should be teaching you how techniques have multiple purposes. You learn weapons training and anti-weapons even at white belt.
D.W. - In several photos we see Master Funakoshi using weapons, yet in Shotokan you do not practice weapons. Why is this? H.N. -I think Master Funakoshi was interested in weapons training but he did not teach weapons in his classes. I don’t know why. - Hidetaka Nishiyama
@TheHobophobic I've cross trained myself. I've trained in kick boxing, taekwondo, judo, jiu jitsu, and hapkido, I've been in several grappling tournaments. But, once I discovered shotokan (10 years ago), it took over my whole training, and much of my life. I love it, and it is what I would use for self defense. But, Shotokan training is VERY VERY different from an MMA gym. It takes a long time before you spar, and even than, you are built up step by step, with basics. Very different training
That is a VERY important distinction. Karate can be done as a sport, but that is really not what it is intended for. It is for life or death defense, or preferably to end a confrontaion without fighting.
@njtr Karate/Kickboxing champion Joe Lewis once stated that in the old school days, most Karateka also cross-trained in Judo, which is no slouch on the ground either, since BJJ came from Judo.
@BootyBot Your question deserves a much larger answer than is possilble here. The short of it is that "smash & bash" may make one tough but it doesn't make anyone smarter. In the end, as we age, the body pays for every one of those injuries. The old Chinese taught the Okinawians, and they, beginning about 1913 with Funakoshi, taught the Japanese. But what Funakoshi taught in Japan was very different from what he learned on Okinawa. I've spent many years puzzeling this question.
These attacks are bad ass and direct. Leaves one the impression that they train each other for attack only. Perhaps this will be effective in a high percentage of confrontations. A little more time on defense might also merrit some thought though, they are training to leave themselves wide open (both hands down at waist level). This can delude each other into thinking it is that easy to hit others, a common practice in many macho MA training, the training often helps the master seem better.
That is a very smart comment. I totally agree. Some people talk a good story, but those of us that have been training for years know that you need the pads, or yes, you will get injured and have to take time off from training. Very counter-productive. You can still get hit, and sometimes bleed or get knocked out with pads on. That should make the cage fighters happy. As for the guys in this video, they are certainly tough fighters, and I respect them. But I'm sure they get hurt a lot. Oss.
Its great. Even now we're still pretty rough. Every Thursday, we have an additional sparring class instead of the adult's class. The biggest challenge is "The Bucket". For ANYONE who is big enough, we can get up to fifteen people of different sizes, abilities, ranks, genders! (Haha) From there we just run a gauntlet and everyone gets a chance to be in the bucket. One of our masters conditioning and reflex training before we even spar. Rough nights, but fun nights.
I train at Team Torres Martial Arts. (sorry, I meant to say oneof our masters DOES conditioning and reflex training) We have two locations: one in Burlington Township at the Springside Commons plaza and the other at a wharehouse complex in Edgewater Park. The Edgewater Park locations is shutting down as we are moving to a FLEX Gym up the road from us.
Oh, sori my english is bad : ) But im inlove with karate, i play all sort of sports, like tenis, mountain runing, cross country skiing, and i can say it from first hand that karate is the best. And thanx u understand me : )
My instructor teaches, that if someone wants to grapple, make him pay. Thumb to the eye, rip an ear off, crush the wind pipe, crush and tear the groin, bite out the throat (as you mentioned, start breaking fingers. Don't forget that this is training for real life or death, not UFC. Also don't forget, that these "long range attacks" are timed for when the opponent is dazed or faked out. Shotokan is also VERY proficient in close (knees elbows etc.) I highly reccomend it. Thanks for post.
yea but to much worry about defense leaves u not attacking and just dodging and blocking so focus on assault leads to fast endings to fights. and not expendable just able to take a punch and know what it is goin to feel like when u do take that punch which alot of martial artist never really know and when they find out its all over. besides which in a fight it can come down to alot of luck if both parties are experienced so being able to take a hit can be a great thing to have under ur belt :)
@IEKUKATAKA BTW, Funakoshi wanted his students to change his techniques. In fact, he wanted them to follow his son, who became better than him. Also, Funakoshi never claimed to be great. He was simply a humble man, who dedicated his life to our art. He introduced it to a wider audience. The training changed during the militaristic climate of WW2 Japan, from personal training into more of a military type drill (JKA like). But if you look, there is still quality personal instruction out there.
Absolutely. I'm just saying that the benefits would be worth it. When I was still a white belt, I was the only one my size. So I would always have to spar the masters and I didn't have any gear. Even that little bit helped me out.
People speak about taking on multiple opponents, you will take a bad beating , shotokan karate (jka) teaches us to be direct and strong in our technique in a self defence situation but against a group ............. I'm no ninja. Great video. Ossu!!
@16karateka obviously he's just joking around. but the hadouken is, in reality, a fighting technique. you can look at it a couple of ways: step out of line of attack while in chamber. then when you do the "blast", you have two palm thrusts hitting the ribs, lever and/or stomach. you can also look at it as taking a punch in with the chamber, then moving into an arm lock takedown when you step out. so a "hadouken" is actually plausible.
Gigo Funakoshi (Gichin Funakoshi's son) came up with the idea to have deep stances but just during training to strengthen the legs, shotokan does value natural stances as well. There is also tai sabaki in shotokan but it's not practiced as much, some instructors don't pay much attention to it, I guess those are the ones that don't need to be teaching because they aren't passing the Way on very well. Check out the Enoeda v Kanazawa clip, those are some masters that truly know shotokan.
COOL VID THANKS!! I train in Shotokan and think its a very effective martial art when you get good. I like the way the sparring is full contac, toughens you up!!!!
@osensei2987 Yes, Funakoshi was from Shuri and yes he did modify what he taught in Japan, but it's a bit more complicated. In Funakoshi's time it was not at all oncommon for a student to study with several different instructors. From memory I recal he studied with Nabe Matsumura, and I"m pretty sure Itosu, So he was well exposed to Shuri, Naha and Tomari Te. What he taught in Japan was very different from what was taught pre 1879 on Okinawa.
Another point I'd like to make is that there are always people out there who are stronger and faster. For this reason, karateka train to be SMARTER fighters. We may not always be able to correctly judge where an attack is coming toward (head, chest, groin, legs, takedown, etc.), but what we do know is that the attack is coming to where we are standing. So, adding footwork to proper timing, and recognizing vulnerable points/moments is important. "Treat your opponents arms and legs as swords" Oss
@TheHobophobic Shotokan teaches you how to breathe, how to walk, how to talk, how to sit, how to stand, how to kneel, how to drink tea, how to drink beer and sake, how to act in public, how to act in private. There is meditation. There is respect. There is humility, courtesy, and discipline both on and off the dojo floor. You are not just training to be a tough guy. You are hard and soft, soft and hard. It is much different from a cage brawl on the first night. It takes years to learn.
@physiofighter ur right. but still what i wanted to say from the start is that even being in that kind of shape, i mean belly and absence of impressive bodies this guys can put out taht much force and speed.
You are absolutely right. There is no best style. It depends on the individual. That is why it is so important to develop the fighting spirit. You must be mentally prepared, and your technique must be automatic. If, these two elements are not present, it is possible for an untrained fighter to beat a trained karateka. But, If your technique is autimatic, and you have a fighting spirit, watch out. When you can shut a maniac down without a scratch on you, due to mental preparation. Its great.
@Profighter92 Thanks for the hint, I really enjoyed the clips the techniques look very effective when close in. I enjoy the jka katas and style but it,s good to see other styles. Thanks again. Ossu!
Him and Anderson Silva are easily the best at avoiding damage, i dont think ive ever seen either of them come out of a fight badly hurt. Would be great to see them go head to head.
You will learn as time goes by . it takes time for your body to feel comfortable with the moves how they have to respond to that . Dont give up anyway , that makes you stronger ! Osu ,
McDojo Someone said " A 先生(Sensei) is going to teach what you need to know and how you need to learn it when he/she thinks it is time for you to learn it. A businessman or women is going to teach you what you think you what to learn and how you what to learn when you pay them". This is one of the BIG difference between a dojo and a gym and a 先生 and a coach/instructor. Osu
I'm not saying that the sport is a reflection of real karate, I'm saying that there IS sport karate and it is a separate entity from traditional karate.
i studied shotokhan for 4 years up to brown belt as part of compulsory school curriculum and i hated it. i thought it was the worst martial art that couldn't even be used in a fight. now after seeing this video i wish i had tried a bit harder and put more enthusiasm into it. it really is an amazing fighting style.
The reason the guards are so low is that they control the range/distance. They do not have gloves on to deflect or absorb the punches. So the need to keep the hands up isn't as great. They do not stand and trade punches, or try to rack up points for shots landed (unless it is sport karate). If they got pinned down, than they would cover up, but this would mean they were in trouble, and would have to get out. Check out Lyoto Machida vs Evans, Silva, or Ortiz and you will see what I mean.
from 0:01 to 1:19 is the kata I am now training to do. i have studied shotokan karate for seven years and am now a second que brown belt. i think this video is very interesting and helpful to my training :-)
I really do miss Practicing Shotoken Karate-do ever since I moved. Probably the only physical hobby I have ever truly loved doing (I was the inside nerd type when I was a kid).
It's actually both. There are sport forms of karate but you can still practice traditional stuff like kata. Karate as a martial art is not dead by any means, but you can't deny that sport karate hasn't arisen.
Love this video. We used to spar in our street clothes without cups after all how many people walk around wearing gi and cups? I think a lot of the mma fighters could learn a lot by learning Shotokan one punch . I know a lot of the open hand moves would not be allowed. Can they use the ridge hand or reverse ridge hand? Just asking I am 63 and started karate when I was 12.
@Bassai I have spoken with IEUKATAKA on a personal level, and he is a very sincere martial artist. He is the real deal, and he is very generous with his knowledge. If he has different viewpoints, and is willing to share them, I am willing to listen. His credentials are solid, and I don't question them. He is an asset to our community, and I am happy to know him. As for me, Shotokan works perfectly. But, I also like to know what else is out there. IEUKATAKA generously shares that. I thank him OSU
@IEKUKATAKA " Funakoshi, an Okinawan, warned the JKA about their direction, they barged ahead..." Well said sir, it's amazing how so many people do not realize this In his twilight years, he became very dissatisfied with the direction his karate was taking. Sadly when he died, many of his senior students just ignored his wishes and did what they wanted.
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this just goes to show its not the style, its the school/instructor. And how you train. These guys are legit.
We can still train real Karate in JKA Dojos
ived been taught by my father with the style of shotokan since i was 7 ..i have no rank or degree but my father gave me his old gi and belt.. and i dont have any formal training on a dojo but i think it seems all he taught me is a genuine style of shotokan as i watch this video.. thanks for sharing.. i wish i could train again with my very own sensei.. my father..
You know i taught i was alone our life is the same my uncle taught me korean karate i never join any dojo i only train alone with him good too know im not alone in this path
@@amylee-ow5cb It is the best path. Teach your sons.
To be honest. I've trained Shotokan Karate for alomost 8 years. I started in a dojo in my local town and then with my fellow soldiers and officers in the Danish Army. I recognized the wall sparring. You had a chance to get hurt and bloody but it was a training where you have to stand your ground no matter what. Because in a real fight you can't just surrender yourself and let yourself get hurt or worse. So in a way it might be brutal but our officers intention was to teach us to survive :)
japan military are not stupid. Shotokan is for real fighting. No referee, no coaches, and no watching of videos of your opponent. It so happen that thai people watches karate and found it how to counter. Right now Muay Thai or any kickboxing style are being beaten-up by Sanda and yawyan style. "As Yamamoto Musashi said, Don't use your weapon over and over, your enemy might find its weakness"
This is the real karate and destructive power of SHOTOKAN. Thank you very much for this video.
you can still train hard and fight hard without having to do serious damage. I've gotten a few bloody noses, busted lips, chipped teeth, black eyes, it's part of martial arts. but the goal isn't to try to seriously hurt your training partner. just because you take safety precautions doesn't mean you're soft. and it's all good if you can afford to get injuries fixed, but there's no sense in it for someone like me with no health insurance to break his bones during training just to show I'm tough.
I bet the point of the bloody sparring(always happens in military, especially, USMC martial arts where you fight on rocky ground having wounds and injuries) also helps you to lower pain tolerance and boost your adrenaline for more power and enhance the survivability...
There's a difference between martial arts training and also martial arts training in military way which is more brutal and risky for both partners pr battle buddies...
I trained in shotokan for a little under 8 years and I can honestly say that I miss it very much. I was young, and throughout my growin up years and young adult years it has taught me self discipline, morals, and how to avoid confrontation, unless it cant be avoided. Also to mention, great physical fitness. Man after seeing this ive got to get back into it
I'm mostly into bodybuilding now but still look to this video, all these years later, when I feel the need to be inspired by those with a strong spirit.
These mock fights are awesome, they're like old school WWF in a Gi lol
I train Jutsu Kai. A Kyokushin style. I also train Shotokan. 2nd Kyu in both. Respect for both. Ossu
押忍！！Ossu!!
No messing, direct,powerful, take out your opponent. i am a JKA black belt but have found that many other high grades are confused by "sport" kumite and actual application, we must all keep practising and enjoying our training but let's not get confused. This is a fantastic clip. Ossu!
I've trained at the JKA and several universities including Takudai. This training is normal. Brilliant!
One of Gichin Funakoshi's 20 precepts of Karate is "Low stance for beginners; natural stance for advanced students.", this proves that his intentions for the deep stances of shotokan are to strengthen the legs of the beginners.
Now, this is what Karate training is suppost to be like.....We need Dojos like that here in the States!!
Sometimes I wish weapons had never been invented, nothing could be used as a weapon. Everyone had to rely on their own body.
This is Karate.
Not the watered down rubbish that we get in the West a lot of the time. There used to a be a franchise where I lived where all the sensei was interested in was making money and the karate was useless. Glad he's retired, but for 20 years he was karate in my county.
One of the most touching and humbling presentations of Karate-do I have ever seen!
i have to admit, I didn't always have a good opinion of shotokan because when i was in europe most people used to practice sport karate more than anything else. But the more I read about Funakoshi and get to see displays of genuine shotokan, and the more appreciate the meaning of Karate...
ooossssss
Shotokan Karate is great! It is my primary fighting style and I am also very proud of it that it is trained by the Japanese military!
Real Karate!!! Great stuff!
Shotokan is not flashy but it is powerful.
What? Shotokan is very flashy
WZDavid_007 it depends on the branch of Shotokan, the branch shown in this video is the style as taught by the JKA, the “flashier” branch is the one that is more globally popular and what people typically see outside of Japan. The easiest way to distinguish the two is that the more popular variant has deeper stances and more reliance on powerful kicks compared to the JKA variant which has a more squared upright posture and relies more on the hands and sweeps
Fuck. I know nobody fights like that when "the thing hits the fan" but it is just so beautifull!
A couple very good things I wanted to point out:
1:20: guy gets his knee kicked out
2:13: punches aimed at Muneo's THROAT
3:05: kick to GROIN
3:31: punch to the GROIN
3:48: kote-uchi strike to BLOOD VESSEL
These are the fundamental targets of Karate. No wonder the JSDF is so well trained...this "sport" style allows things illegal here in the west!
Thanks for posting, Kenpostory!
Is it worth it to get injuries like that in training? In competition?
I'll admit that actually made me laugh a little.
Love Shotokan karate
This is one of my favorite shotokan videos. it is very good.
Inspirational
learning to fight both circular and straight and being able to interchange them when the situation suits itself is the best way.
3:05
"the instructor yoshi kamamuneio, who has won several of these competitions, will demonstrate some of his technical marvels"
yea, very nice kick to the balls
lol
right in the nards man, you can only learn that move in a dojo!
Very nice. Shows that Shotokan can have a down-to-earth practical application in fighting.
You know, this Karate video is impressive. I've seen alot of watered down Karate over the years and its good see Karate done in a pristine and powerful fashion.
I love the end demonstration. I always wondered why nobody uses those ground kicks except karate and kung fu...you can get so much power and surprise if you both hit the ground around the same time
Because going to the ground to kick if you don't need to like in this demo is f*cking stupid, just like most sanbon kumite and goshin waza in Japanese karate. It's worth practicing "ne geri" for sure, but it's more intuitive to know how to kick someone while you're still standing.
Now THIS, right here, is what karate training should be like. Way too many McDojos in the world now :(
this is real karate!
I agree, not that bullshit sports point based karate created in the west
I agree 100% I was speaking in the "all things being equal" scenario that you mentioned. I'd like to add that I have the greatest respect for boxing. I have a little boxing training myself, but my thing is karate. I firmly believe that boxers are some of the toughest, most well conditioned athletes on the planet, especially at the professional level. Yes, there is a HUGE difference between a professional boxer, and a person who does karate as a hobby, but some karateka do train just as hard.
I was amazed myself. Martial arts discussions deteriorate so quickly. I thought for sure that ours was going to. Good luck in your training.
i love shotokan :) its great exercise and develops your legs so much
Very good video, it shows what really karate shotokan is.
Impressed by this upload, shotokan is my style but also have a lot of respect for other forms of martial arts, if u think a style is not worthy step in front of a good exponent of that style and tell them so, good luck
It's better than 90% of the karate that we find everywhere.
man this is really awesome!!!
Impressive I would love to see these guys against US or Korean marines. These are some very direct and hard hitting individuals.
kuribo1 Good shotokan is supposed to be that way, it ignores the flashiness of many other styles and takes the mentality of total defeat for your opponent as quickly as possible. Granted, having said that there is still "katas" and other traditional aspects to it. Where I learned, we did all aspects, though our Sensei always had us train with the mindset for street fights and total violence against an opponent. It's a good style.
the fastest way to travel is on a straight line. you make a curve and your travel is delayed compared to the one who goes straight way.
shotokan karate are still the best!
+FireTiger3444 , yup but it is obsolete style now.. :)
+FireTiger3444 , i mean the shorin ryu style is the obsolete. not the goju ryu. i like the style of goju ryu and i have no problem w/ that. OSS! :)
I think the three of us pretty much agree on the concept. It is just the details that we debate about (I love shotokan, he doesn't) . We are all just karateka sharing our knowledge. That is how we learn. It is a beautiful thing. Have a great night. OSU!
If more people saw this, they wouldn't think karate is a joke. This is the type of training i always wished existed over here in the states...let alone in OHIO where i live :(
the old style of shotokan ryu karate also used to teach kubo weapons too like the tonfa, the bo, the sai, and also combined with kodokan judo to make it more a self defense art not the water down version sport like they have today
+Ricardo Diaz Again, it depends on your Sensei. If they are qualified, they should be teaching you how techniques have multiple purposes. You learn weapons training and anti-weapons even at white belt.
D.W. - In several photos we see Master Funakoshi using weapons, yet in Shotokan you do not practice weapons. Why is this?
H.N. -I think Master Funakoshi was interested in weapons training but he did not teach weapons in his classes. I don’t know why. - Hidetaka Nishiyama
This is precious gift the paint of pains
The original full contact karate is the authentic martial art, no the WKF gay kumite
LOL!!!
i love shotokan especially when i can mix my judo into it
Shotokan forever..
@tedfio1tedfio1
Oyama was 2° Dan in Shotokan, trained by sensei Funakoshi. And 8° Dan in Goju-ryu.
@TheHobophobic I've cross trained myself. I've trained in kick boxing, taekwondo, judo, jiu jitsu, and hapkido, I've been in several grappling tournaments. But, once I discovered shotokan (10 years ago), it took over my whole training, and much of my life. I love it, and it is what I would use for self defense. But, Shotokan training is VERY VERY different from an MMA gym. It takes a long time before you spar, and even than, you are built up step by step, with basics. Very different training
That is a VERY important distinction. Karate can be done as a sport, but that is really not what it is intended for. It is for life or death defense, or preferably to end a confrontaion without fighting.
@njtr Karate/Kickboxing champion Joe Lewis once stated that in the old school days, most Karateka also cross-trained in Judo, which is no slouch on the ground either, since BJJ came from Judo.
@BootyBot
Your question deserves a much larger answer than is possilble here. The short of it is that "smash & bash" may make one tough but it doesn't make anyone smarter. In the end, as we age, the body pays for every one of those injuries. The old Chinese taught the Okinawians, and they, beginning about 1913 with Funakoshi, taught the Japanese. But what Funakoshi taught in Japan was very different from what he learned on Okinawa. I've spent many years puzzeling this question.
These attacks are bad ass and direct. Leaves one the impression that they train each other for attack only. Perhaps this will be effective in a high percentage of confrontations. A little more time on defense might also merrit some thought though, they are training to leave themselves wide open (both hands down at waist level). This can delude each other into thinking it is that easy to hit others, a common practice in many macho MA training, the training often helps the master seem better.
That is a very smart comment. I totally agree. Some people talk a good story, but those of us that have been training for years know that you need the pads, or yes, you will get injured and have to take time off from training. Very counter-productive. You can still get hit, and sometimes bleed or get knocked out with pads on. That should make the cage fighters happy. As for the guys in this video, they are certainly tough fighters, and I respect them. But I'm sure they get hurt a lot. Oss.
shotokan special training for the military....kind a tough!!! ossu..
Its great. Even now we're still pretty rough. Every Thursday, we have an additional sparring class instead of the adult's class. The biggest challenge is "The Bucket". For ANYONE who is big enough, we can get up to fifteen people of different sizes, abilities, ranks, genders! (Haha) From there we just run a gauntlet and everyone gets a chance to be in the bucket. One of our masters conditioning and reflex training before we even spar. Rough nights, but fun nights.
I train at Team Torres Martial Arts. (sorry, I meant to say oneof our masters DOES conditioning and reflex training) We have two locations: one in Burlington Township at the Springside Commons plaza and the other at a wharehouse complex in Edgewater Park. The Edgewater Park locations is shutting down as we are moving to a FLEX Gym up the road from us.
Oh, sori my english is bad : ) But im inlove with karate, i play all sort of sports, like tenis, mountain runing, cross country skiing, and i can say it from first hand that karate is the best. And thanx u understand me : )
I like this video! Thank you for posting!!!
That's great! Its always better to know how to fight in different conditions (i.e. ground, grappling, etc.) That's really cool.
My instructor teaches, that if someone wants to grapple, make him pay. Thumb to the eye, rip an ear off, crush the wind pipe, crush and tear the groin, bite out the throat (as you mentioned, start breaking fingers. Don't forget that this is training for real life or death, not UFC. Also don't forget, that these "long range attacks" are timed for when the opponent is dazed or faked out. Shotokan is also VERY proficient in close (knees elbows etc.) I highly reccomend it. Thanks for post.
yea but to much worry about defense leaves u not attacking and just dodging and blocking so focus on assault leads to fast endings to fights. and not expendable just able to take a punch and know what it is goin to feel like when u do take that punch which alot of martial artist never really know and when they find out its all over. besides which in a fight it can come down to alot of luck if both parties are experienced so being able to take a hit can be a great thing to have under ur belt :)
except kyokushin kumite doesn't emphasize distance, footwork, or timing as much as shotokan.
@IEKUKATAKA BTW, Funakoshi wanted his students to change his techniques. In fact, he wanted them to follow his son, who became better than him. Also, Funakoshi never claimed to be great. He was simply a humble man, who dedicated his life to our art. He introduced it to a wider audience. The training changed during the militaristic climate of WW2 Japan, from personal training into more of a military type drill (JKA like). But if you look, there is still quality personal instruction out there.
Absolutely. I'm just saying that the benefits would be worth it. When I was still a white belt, I was the only one my size. So I would always have to spar the masters and I didn't have any gear. Even that little bit helped me out.
@XxXxXJonathanXxXxX By punching from below your punch is more like an upper. Also you can use more of your back muscles.
People speak about taking on multiple opponents, you will take a bad beating , shotokan karate (jka) teaches us to be direct and strong in our technique in a self defence situation but against a group ............. I'm no ninja. Great video. Ossu!!
@16karateka
obviously he's just joking around. but the hadouken is, in reality, a fighting technique. you can look at it a couple of ways: step out of line of attack while in chamber. then when you do the "blast", you have two palm thrusts hitting the ribs, lever and/or stomach. you can also look at it as taking a punch in with the chamber, then moving into an arm lock takedown when you step out. so a "hadouken" is actually plausible.
Gigo Funakoshi (Gichin Funakoshi's son) came up with the idea to have deep stances but just during training to strengthen the legs, shotokan does value natural stances as well. There is also tai sabaki in shotokan but it's not practiced as much, some instructors don't pay much attention to it, I guess those are the ones that don't need to be teaching because they aren't passing the Way on very well. Check out the Enoeda v Kanazawa clip, those are some masters that truly know shotokan.
Kanazawa was the real deal, but honestly they both still turn karate into a fencing match. I'll watch Enshin Karate for tai sabaki.
COOL VID THANKS!! I train in Shotokan and think its a very effective martial art when you get good. I like the way the sparring is full contac, toughens you up!!!!
@osensei2987
Yes, Funakoshi was from Shuri and yes he did modify what he taught in Japan, but it's a bit more complicated. In Funakoshi's time it was not at all oncommon for a student to study with several different instructors. From memory I recal he studied with Nabe Matsumura, and I"m pretty sure Itosu, So he was well exposed to Shuri, Naha and Tomari Te.
What he taught in Japan was very different from what was taught pre 1879 on Okinawa.
Shotokan is beautiful. Still one of my favourite Martial arts, along with Tai Chi(real Tai Chi that is), Shaolin Gung Fu and Muay Thai/ Boran.
Another point I'd like to make is that there are always people out there who are stronger and faster. For this reason, karateka train to be SMARTER fighters. We may not always be able to correctly judge where an attack is coming toward (head, chest, groin, legs, takedown, etc.), but what we do know is that the attack is coming to where we are standing. So, adding footwork to proper timing, and recognizing vulnerable points/moments is important. "Treat your opponents arms and legs as swords" Oss
@TheHobophobic Shotokan teaches you how to breathe, how to walk, how to talk, how to sit, how to stand, how to kneel, how to drink tea, how to drink beer and sake, how to act in public, how to act in private. There is meditation. There is respect. There is humility, courtesy, and discipline both on and off the dojo floor. You are not just training to be a tough guy. You are hard and soft, soft and hard. It is much different from a cage brawl on the first night. It takes years to learn.
@physiofighter ur right. but still what i wanted to say from the start is that even being in that kind of shape, i mean belly and absence of impressive bodies this guys can put out taht much force and speed.
You are absolutely right. There is no best style. It depends on the individual. That is why it is so important to develop the fighting spirit. You must be mentally prepared, and your technique must be automatic. If, these two elements are not present, it is possible for an untrained fighter to beat a trained karateka. But, If your technique is autimatic, and you have a fighting spirit, watch out. When you can shut a maniac down without a scratch on you, due to mental preparation. Its great.
Now if I can find a Shoto-Kan school that fights like this, OSU
Karate is more then a sport, its filosophy.
@Profighter92 Thanks for the hint, I really enjoyed the clips the techniques look very effective when close in. I enjoy the jka katas and style but it,s good to see other styles. Thanks again. Ossu!
@Weeraphat13 yup . there are different styles of karate . but we are one family .
LMFAO OMFG 3:01 "demonstrate some of his technical marvals..." Karate fighter 2: *kicks man in the ballz* XD HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH that was funny af
Him and Anderson Silva are easily the best at avoiding damage, i dont think ive ever seen either of them come out of a fight badly hurt. Would be great to see them go head to head.
You will learn as time goes by .
it takes time for your body to feel comfortable with the moves how they have to respond to that .
Dont give up anyway , that makes you stronger !
Osu ,
McDojo
Someone said " A 先生(Sensei) is going to teach what you need to know and how you need to learn it when he/she thinks it is time for you to learn it. A businessman or women is going to teach you what you think you what to learn and how you what to learn when you pay them". This is one of the BIG difference between a dojo and a gym and a 先生 and a coach/instructor. Osu
this is the self defence forces. its meant for real hand to hand combat
now many dojos focuses on sports karate
I'm not saying that the sport is a reflection of real karate, I'm saying that there IS sport karate and it is a separate entity from traditional karate.
One word "Impressive".
@YamanoRyuu Shotokan has a modified version of this Kata. I believe it's called Hangetsu.
i studied shotokhan for 4 years up to brown belt as part of compulsory school curriculum and i hated it. i thought it was the worst martial art that couldn't even be used in a fight. now after seeing this video i wish i had tried a bit harder and put more enthusiasm into it. it really is an amazing fighting style.
The reason the guards are so low is that they control the range/distance. They do not have gloves on to deflect or absorb the punches. So the need to keep the hands up isn't as great. They do not stand and trade punches, or try to rack up points for shots landed (unless it is sport karate). If they got pinned down, than they would cover up, but this would mean they were in trouble, and would have to get out. Check out Lyoto Machida vs Evans, Silva, or Ortiz and you will see what I mean.
from 0:01 to 1:19 is the kata I am now training to do. i have studied shotokan karate for seven years and am now a second que brown belt. i think this video is very interesting and helpful to my training :-)
I really do miss Practicing Shotoken Karate-do ever since I moved. Probably the only physical hobby I have ever truly loved doing (I was the inside nerd type when I was a kid).
It's actually both. There are sport forms of karate but you can still practice traditional stuff like kata. Karate as a martial art is not dead by any means, but you can't deny that sport karate hasn't arisen.
Love this video. We used to spar in our street clothes without cups after all how many people walk around wearing gi and cups? I think a lot of the mma fighters could learn a lot by learning Shotokan one punch . I know a lot of the open hand moves would not be allowed. Can they use the ridge hand or reverse ridge hand? Just asking I am 63 and started karate when I was 12.
Exactly! It's about being realistic.
@Bassai I have spoken with IEUKATAKA on a personal level, and he is a very sincere martial artist. He is the real deal, and he is very generous with his knowledge. If he has different viewpoints, and is willing to share them, I am willing to listen. His credentials are solid, and I don't question them. He is an asset to our community, and I am happy to know him. As for me, Shotokan works perfectly. But, I also like to know what else is out there. IEUKATAKA generously shares that. I thank him OSU
@IEKUKATAKA Well, I'm sorry to hear that. I happen to like Shotokan, and I get a lot out of it. Good luck in your training.
@IEKUKATAKA " Funakoshi, an Okinawan, warned the JKA about their direction, they barged ahead..."
Well said sir, it's amazing how so many people do not realize this In his twilight years, he became very dissatisfied with the direction his karate was taking. Sadly when he died, many of his senior students just ignored his wishes and did what they wanted.
Holy SHIT! Just when I thought people bitched about the style that I study being to rough! That was cool!