Master Bus Compressor Shootout: SSL 4000 G vs. Shadow Hills vs. Manley Variable Mu

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  • @BlackGhostAudio
    @BlackGhostAudio  2 роки тому +1

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  • @RJ1J
    @RJ1J 2 роки тому +28

    Typical, the one I liked the most is the only one I don't have. The Manley.

    • @BlackGhostAudio
      @BlackGhostAudio  2 роки тому +1

      That always seems to be the way it goes. I’m a big fan of the Manley as well. I think its qualities shined the most on the acoustic track.

  • @WretchedIcon
    @WretchedIcon Рік тому +17

    This is a fantastic way of comparison. By blindly comparing modules, it allows us to lead with our ears, rather than some preconceived bias. I was always leaning towards SSL, but I chose Shadow Hills 3 of the 4 times. That's enough to convince me which one I prefer. Thank you.

  • @DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579
    @DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579 7 місяців тому +16

    I just got the UAD Manley Vari-Mu on sale just under $50. Excellent compressor.

    • @lyrixFH
      @lyrixFH 7 місяців тому

      What do you recommend it for? I'm contemplating right now whether to buy it or not

    • @aviatedviewssound4798
      @aviatedviewssound4798 7 місяців тому +1

      @@lyrixFH I heard it sounds the best on busses.

    • @cpthegenius
      @cpthegenius 6 місяців тому +1

      Came to this video specifically cause I need a Glue Compressor for mixing/mastering and the Manley happened to be on sale. Think I might pull the trigger today.

    • @aviatedviewssound4798
      @aviatedviewssound4798 6 місяців тому

      @@cpthegenius What kind of music do you make?

    • @cpthegenius
      @cpthegenius 6 місяців тому

      @@aviatedviewssound4798I mostly record and produce R&B music for myself but I work on Hip hop, R&B, Pop and ballads for myself and other people I do mixes and masters for.

  • @official_ffg357
    @official_ffg357 Рік тому +10

    Got the shadow hills every time. Love it!

  • @NoQualmsTheArtist
    @NoQualmsTheArtist 7 місяців тому +4

    I chose a different one for each 🤔. That's why I love blind tests, this made me rethink, maybe I need more options on my master bus instead of using the same compressor on every song, which would have been impossible in my hardware days.

    • @RazeTastic414
      @RazeTastic414 2 місяці тому

      This is the way. The beauty of plug-ins being so affordable is we have the flexibility to apply the best tool for it's proper opportunity. If it were hardware, sure that's an investment...but ITB just get all three for your toolbox.

  • @paulmolive1821
    @paulmolive1821 Рік тому +4

    The Manley squishes the low end and loses some punch. The Shadow Hills sounds clean and punchy, maybe a little bit of extra high-end sizzle. The SSL sits somewhere between the two.

  • @Magic_carpet666
    @Magic_carpet666 2 роки тому +3

    The Manley just killed it on all genres… SSL was the least convincing IMO.

  • @philippgrunert8776
    @philippgrunert8776 Рік тому +2

    For me this video shows that having a tool box full of different flavours may serve one well. I liked all of them. Mostly just one of the three was not really resonating with me on that particular material. They have a frequency imprint but seem to contour differently if that makes sense

  • @greatcombo1443
    @greatcombo1443 2 роки тому +4

    Amazing demonstration. It’s always great hear plug-ins you love used outside of your creative world. I love the shadow hills comp however in this example to me it was making the vocals flat in a way I didn’t enjoy. Definitely keeping this in mind!
    💎 Gem Channel 💎

  • @jodlex_music
    @jodlex_music 6 місяців тому +1

    I see the SSL Bus will be less saturation and compression, more cold and sound like uncompress file. Manley Mu and Shadow Hill - how i see, that its more warm, sat, and compress, more warm sound, Shadow Hill have more natural timbre... IMHO!)

  • @sonnybrasco9735
    @sonnybrasco9735 6 місяців тому +2

    I like the shadow hills in these examples. Thanks for the informative video.

  • @torocruz1192
    @torocruz1192 9 місяців тому +2

    Nice shout out. I picked the SSL every time. Still my favorite 2Bus Como 👍🏽✌🏽🇩🇴

  • @vektacular
    @vektacular 2 місяці тому

    1.-ssl wins
    2. - manley wins
    3.-ssl wins
    4.-shadow hills wins
    To me anyways

  • @bangubw736
    @bangubw736 Рік тому +3

    i got the Manley right in all examples. which was my least favorite lol. Love both the SSL & ShadowHills. i use the Class A by PA all the time

  • @yuungsims
    @yuungsims 2 роки тому +3

    We need more videos like this!!!! This is the first plugin shootout i've seen on youtube that actually helps highlight a plugins strengths/ weaknesses as opposed to "Which is better"

  • @KINGDAVIDREINCARNATED
    @KINGDAVIDREINCARNATED 3 місяці тому

    Let’s just be Manley about this…

  • @diego_jause
    @diego_jause 2 роки тому +2

    New name : Shadow hits 👊👊👊💥🔊💥🔊💥👌👌✨✨✨🔊🔊🔊

  • @RayoBeatz
    @RayoBeatz 3 місяці тому +1

    do one with the iron spl i see mastering engeeners using that on everything

  • @Hansba_guitar
    @Hansba_guitar 2 роки тому +2

    Like the Shadow hills and also have used it quite much

  • @danfilipradu
    @danfilipradu Рік тому +1

    compressor C
    compressor A
    third example they all sounds almost the same
    compressor C

  • @jesperborgstrm3385
    @jesperborgstrm3385 2 роки тому +1

    dunno why. have the. shadow hills one but SSL won for me in all mixes. oh well time to buy another one

  • @carldubcats3385
    @carldubcats3385 4 місяці тому +1

    I liked the Shadow Hills the best.

  • @whatskraken3886
    @whatskraken3886 2 роки тому +2

    this video is really high quality

  • @Beethovan
    @Beethovan 3 місяці тому

    A sounds punchier (with less HF) followed by C (with more HF) followed by B (not punchier). B makes music duller.
    Select different compressors based on song

  • @abhigaming2160
    @abhigaming2160 Рік тому +2

    VERY BEAUTIFUL SHOOTOUT THANKS

  • @savanaviolenta
    @savanaviolenta Рік тому +1

    Shadow Hills is just pure magic

  • @DJFreejak
    @DJFreejak 6 місяців тому

    Thanks mate very helpful blind test. Currently i Use the G Bus but i chose the Manley in every instance here. 🤔

  • @FreakinOutOnAudio
    @FreakinOutOnAudio 6 місяців тому

    hit em harder. manley for example takes ludicrous gain reduction but stays clean, while the ssl will quickly get colored.

  • @kadiummusic
    @kadiummusic 4 місяці тому

    Picked the SSL every single time, much more depth and 3D feel. 😎

  • @planetclay
    @planetclay 11 місяців тому

    UAD makes mac os 10.15 a minimum-requirement to GIVE THEM MONEY for their products.....? there's all kinds of goofy...however, the ones that save me money i most appreciate.

  • @MahmoudNader
    @MahmoudNader 10 місяців тому

    The shadowhills mastering compressor seriously looks like Shelob from The Lord of the rings

  • @mariodario9033
    @mariodario9033 7 місяців тому

    My preferences was ALWAYS Shadow Hills, Manley average everything and SSL is many time too radical. Shadow Hills is my best mastering compressor on every song :) THX for comparision.

  • @industryandaudio
    @industryandaudio 6 місяців тому

    I feel like Shadow Hills is too aggressive across all songs. SSL seems to be more controlled as where the Shadow Hills adds audible boxy and distorted sounding textures to the mix.

  • @MrJvne
    @MrJvne 6 місяців тому

    Shadow hills all the way... Want to precise it's the Brainworx one, not a UAD version

  • @sevchyk
    @sevchyk 8 місяців тому

    In this comparison for me Shadow Hills and SSL scored a 2:2 draw. For the first song Shadow Hills was better, then two songs for SSL, and the last one again Shadow Hills.

  • @Maksitto
    @Maksitto 7 місяців тому

    ssl one love) thanks for video! By the way. You kept sc filter on 80 every time( on ssl)?

  • @RayoBeatz
    @RayoBeatz 3 місяці тому

    i was suprised i thought it was the shadowhills but it was the manley

  • @johnisrael5183
    @johnisrael5183 2 роки тому

    Tim Pethrick s
    L Bus Comp, Track Comp G Bus
    And Acustica Audio's
    Lime2
    Sand3
    And Amythist...
    Will put these to shame

  • @LoversinPH
    @LoversinPH 2 роки тому +5

    SSL 4000 - Huge wide and punchy
    Shadow Hills - my least favorite, probably because it's the least focused on the mid range. I'm actually surprised because I'm searching about it and ended up with this great video
    Manley - It's just diff, it had this smooth silky feel, it's like analog, it feels radio ready and polished, it has this FEEL. It's magical

  • @timcwalker
    @timcwalker 8 місяців тому

    Shadow Hills for the vocals on the 1st and last tunes.

  • @danube466
    @danube466 Рік тому

    I chose the Manley for the Acoustic...

  • @homeofcreation
    @homeofcreation 7 місяців тому

    Shadow Hills is on sale now!

  • @FlashMusicEntertainment
    @FlashMusicEntertainment 7 місяців тому

    SSL I love it

    • @DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579
      @DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579 7 місяців тому

      I really like the Manley and SSL, for different reasons. Both for the old school vibe, clean and quick SSL, Manley with the tube warmth and leveling.

  • @woodhousemusic7176
    @woodhousemusic7176 Рік тому

    👌

  • @Wizardofvoz2
    @Wizardofvoz2 Рік тому +2

    I picked the Manley every time.

  • @andreikhm
    @andreikhm 2 роки тому +2

    Try to turn on a real compressor and you will hear a real difference, all the listed real compressors sound different, and all these emulations give a flat boring sound.

    • @BlackGhostAudio
      @BlackGhostAudio  2 роки тому +3

      I’d love to do a shootout with the hardware equivalents. Some software vs. hardware shootouts would be interesting as well!

  • @waytospergtherebro
    @waytospergtherebro 2 роки тому +2

    The word bus does not have two of any letter.

    • @BlackGhostAudio
      @BlackGhostAudio  2 роки тому +3

      Haha, it depends on whether you're British or not. Being Canadian, a lot of those British spellings are engrained in me. "Colour" with a "u" is another fun one. I believe the majority of my viewers are located in the United States so I've gone ahead and updated the video's title :)

  • @mikethetruth1056
    @mikethetruth1056 Рік тому

    Bro, you gotta use the hardware stuff

  • @spickeys5078
    @spickeys5078 2 роки тому

    You've decided to sell your Kali coaxial monitors for Adam ? I personally own the Kali IN-8 v2 and I love them

    • @BlackGhostAudio
      @BlackGhostAudio  2 роки тому +3

      I do a fair number of product reviews so I have gear cycling in and out of my studio constantly. I still have the Kalis but these Adams are combined with an Adam sub so the augmented frequency response is quite helpful when it comes to mixing low end. I’m thinking about pairing the Kalis with a sub since I love the detailed midrange on them 😁

    • @spickeys5078
      @spickeys5078 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@BlackGhostAudio Ah! Got it. I had the Kali IN-5 but the low-end was not ideal indeed. That's why I switched to their bigger brother IN-8 v2. Now, Got the full spectrum!