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Jason Hickel | The Divide: A Brief Guide to Global Inequality and Its Solutions | Talks at Google

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  • Economic anthropologist Jason Hickel discusses his book "The Divide: A Brief Guide to Global Inequality and its Solutions". Jason proposes dramatic action is needed to combat global inequality rooted in real justice. Only then will we have a chance at a world where all begin on more equal footing.
    More than four billion people-some 60% of humanity-live in poverty, on less than $5 per day. The standard narrative tells us this crisis is a natural phenomenon, having to do with things like climate and geography and culture. It tells us that all we have to do is give a bit of aid here and there to help poor countries up the development ladder. It insists that if poor countries would only adopt the right institutions and economic policies, they could overcome their disadvantages and join the ranks of the rich world. Hickel argues that global poverty-and the growing inequality between the rich countries of Europe and North America and the poor ones of Africa, Asia, and South America-has come about because the global economy has been designed over the course of five hundred years of conquest, colonialism, regime change, and globalization to favor the interests of the richest and most powerful nations. Global inequality is not natural or inevitable, and it is certainly not accidental.
    Dr. Jason Hickel is an anthropologist, author, and a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts. He is a Visiting Senior Fellow at the International Inequalities Institute at the London School of Economics, and Senior Lecturer at Goldsmiths, University of London. He serves on the Statistical Advisory Panel for the UN Human Development Report 2020, the advisory board of the Green New Deal for Europe, and on the Harvard-Lancet Commission on Reparations and Redistributive Justice. Jason's research focuses on global inequality, political economy, post-development, and ecological economics.
    Get the book here: goo.gle/3jIVjZ1.
    Moderated by Lisa Takehana.
    #globalinequality #jasonhickel #economicanthropology

КОМЕНТАРІ • 104

  • @65gmb
    @65gmb 3 роки тому +87

    How ironic that Google hosted this talk....

    • @rajanisantu
      @rajanisantu 3 роки тому +4

      And they won't advertise it.

    • @OwenMiller9825
      @OwenMiller9825 Рік тому

      Google is full of people with their own agendas

  • @shilj8011
    @shilj8011 Рік тому +20

    Jason Hickel resources:
    Aime Cesaire - Discourse on colonialism
    Ha-Joon Chang - Kicking down the ladder; Bad Samaritans
    Sven Beckett - Empire of cotton
    Utsa Patnaik
    David Harvey - A brief history of neoliberalism

  • @hir3npatel
    @hir3npatel 3 роки тому +33

    Love the excluding-China charts, and the debt quote - not paying the debt won't kill anyone, paying it will. Debt is slavery.

  • @unidadeducativaarturoeichl6885
    @unidadeducativaarturoeichl6885 3 роки тому +35

    "Talks at Google???!!!" I wonder if people at Google, the champion of tax avoidance/evasion and large monopolies, are actually listening to what scientists have to say about inequality...

    • @robbiemack7094
      @robbiemack7094 Рік тому

      "The capitalist will sell the rope that hangs him."

    • @huizhechen3779
      @huizhechen3779 Рік тому +1

      Google (Alphabet) doesn't care what people like Hickel say. They've got so much money & a stranglehold on internet search.

  • @selfissimo
    @selfissimo 3 роки тому +64

    One of the few people who dares to tell the truth..

    • @dounialani7056
      @dounialani7056 3 роки тому +9

      One of the only people who actually knows the truth !

    • @kennethyoung7564
      @kennethyoung7564 3 роки тому +3

      I believe that Mahatma Gandhi was one of the few who saw how to tackle poverty in a deeper way. Unfortunately no one listened to him. (At least in the context of poverty alleviation.) Poverty can only be solved by setting up mechanisms to solve poverty WITH the poor, not FOR the poor from a state of convenience.

    • @AshrafAli-888
      @AshrafAli-888 2 роки тому

      There are two things.
      1. Should know the truth
      2. Your comment

  • @MikusMusik
    @MikusMusik 3 роки тому +10

    Brilliant talk, this kind of thing was discussed much more in the late 90s and has fallen of the radar in this generation I think. Time to put the pressure back on the world bank, on the IMF and on western neo-imperialism.

  • @h4Q6e
    @h4Q6e Рік тому +2

    Absolutely incredible talk. Expertly delivered talk and unbelievable patience showed at the idiotic question asked by the googlers. I strongly suggest everybody to check as well Hickel's work on unequal exchange and degrowth

  • @hir3npatel
    @hir3npatel 3 роки тому +20

    WOW - what a talk. Fascinating the outflows of money compared to the good will inflows, he makes stunning use of numbers to lay it bare. The truth is really shocking.

    • @kennethyoung7564
      @kennethyoung7564 2 роки тому

      @Ryan Robichaud Read "globalization and its discontents" which is a more nuanced look at globalization, written by a former vice president and chief economist of the world bank. He talks about the trade offs with globalization, but also talks about how globalization has not been "managed" correctly. The question lies in how you manage the globalization process to benefit all. Most likely mapping out of the informal economy, and the use of GIS mapping to drive deeper engagement at the local level. I will need to think about it more deeply. Read his book if you want a more in depth understanding of his perspective, and read globalization and its discontents if you want a more balanced look at how things happened to damage countries from the IMF written by a senior economist. Also read "kicking away the ladder," which is written by a south korean economist. It really is true that liberalization and lack of protectionist policies have hurt these countries but I believe in a one by one model. Meaning that we need to develop systems to focus on the needs of individual families.

  • @honigwachsreuben
    @honigwachsreuben 3 роки тому +9

    Thank *_you_* Lisa for keeping this important conversation going!

  • @jeff__w
    @jeff__w 2 роки тому +6

    10:48 “Each year about $2 trillion US dollars flows from Global North to Global South…but, at the same time, we see that $5 trillion flows in the other direction from South to North.”
    11:12 “…for every dollar of aid the Global South receives, they lose $24 in net outflows.”
    The discrepancy between the two numbers (2½ times vs. 24 times) results from the fact that the $2 trillion includes things _other than_ direct aid, i.e., foreign direct investment, loans, remittances, “everything.”

  • @mrjonno
    @mrjonno 2 роки тому +4

    Excellent. Complementary to the work of Piketty.

  • @karlwheatley1244
    @karlwheatley1244 6 місяців тому +1

    Wonderful talk. Given that we are currently overshooting Earth's sustainable carrying capacity by ~75% per year, we have no choice bu to de-grow/shrink our economies and lifestyles or the laws of nature will collapse them for us.

  • @stevenbourke5052
    @stevenbourke5052 3 роки тому +15

    Would be great if you could share links to the books mentioned

    • @vernemartinez8115
      @vernemartinez8115 3 роки тому +4

      The divide and less is more

    • @Ryan_hey
      @Ryan_hey 3 роки тому +3

      The Divide: Global Inequality from Conquest to Free Markets
      Less is More: How Degrowth Will Save the World

  • @JhanicSatori
    @JhanicSatori 3 роки тому +6

    wait? google is hosting this? wow, wtf

  • @jonlaban4272
    @jonlaban4272 4 місяці тому

    Excellent story well told ❤
    I would recommend looking at the research happening at the Autonomous University of Barcelona on the topic of Degrowth and post capitalist economics.

  • @jeanpaulhirschkowitzleblan9202
    @jeanpaulhirschkowitzleblan9202 2 роки тому +4

    La moderadora o esta muy incómoda o no entiende nada 🤔

  • @tomkarnes69
    @tomkarnes69 2 роки тому

    Your analysis is spot on, let me ask; you and what Army will move the current system in play to a more transparent just model???

    • @nightoftheworld
      @nightoftheworld 2 роки тому +2

      Hopefully an army of working class and dispossessed who are empowered by this information

  • @Silvertestrun
    @Silvertestrun 2 роки тому +1

    Ty

  • @Wyt_Rabbit
    @Wyt_Rabbit 3 роки тому +2

    A fellow African. Cool!

  • @mrx2062
    @mrx2062 3 роки тому +1

    Selling commodities seldom makes you rich. No pricing power. But that is what developing countries do. Just sending money to the developing countries does not change that.

    • @MrTooEarnestOnline
      @MrTooEarnestOnline 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah they have no choice in the matter. Any leader that decides to industrialize or socialize immediately gets deposed

  • @AlphaGeekgirl
    @AlphaGeekgirl 3 роки тому +2

    Why is the most recent data on the graph already 10 years old? I find it hard to believe in this day and age, with big data, that it can’t be kept up-to-date. A lot could’ve happened since 2010 to make this graph either infinitely better, or infinitely worse.

    • @kennethyoung7564
      @kennethyoung7564 3 роки тому +1

      I doubt it. Large scale changes in terms of power dynamics have not changed. Its not all bad. The director of Unicef increased vaccine rates from 20-80 percent world wide from 1980-1995. Technology innovation and business have had some good, but not enough to raise the majority out of poverty.

    • @Ryan_hey
      @Ryan_hey 3 роки тому +1

      It's 2012 data. You're right, this data is stale. It doesn't show how much worse it's become since then, because absolutely nothing has changed. Neoliberal capitalism is raging and shows no signs of stopping until it runs itself into the ground.

    • @Ryan_hey
      @Ryan_hey 3 роки тому +1

      @@kennethyoung7564 Yeah, it's great that medical advances have been made, whether it be vaccines or maternal and infant deaths having been greatly reduced, but that's just simply providing medical aid. But that's a drop in the bucket compared to allow 3rd world countries to develop on their own, build up their industry, and own their own resources through nationalization, etc. They're totally and completely exploited.

  • @KulturanCov
    @KulturanCov 2 роки тому +1

    A very poignant and informative talk, wow :O

  • @eagleleft
    @eagleleft 2 роки тому +4

    Viva la socialisme

  • @danilobucker
    @danilobucker 3 роки тому +4

    Yes! That all true but nothing new. Socialists around the world are claiming that since decades ago. We have to achieve a situation that liberal Democracy are threatened by fascists to do something about it. I hope we can achieve a consensus that we need return to social democracy with wellfair state and enforce it to the world.

    • @wraithwrecker_
      @wraithwrecker_ 3 роки тому +6

      Social democracies in europe are part of the problem though.

    • @tralx5268
      @tralx5268 2 роки тому +1

      @@wraithwrecker_ because they are not socialistic at all. Just look at Britain.

  • @anaaleixo4210
    @anaaleixo4210 2 роки тому

    How pandemic COVID-19 mau acelerate the process of looking Global South in a fair way?

  • @minhng7208
    @minhng7208 7 місяців тому

    This channel has 2.3m subscriptions but this talk has 30k views only. Why?

  • @arturonegretearte
    @arturonegretearte 3 роки тому +1

    How come this book aint in spanish?

  • @netabaughman3079
    @netabaughman3079 3 роки тому +1

    Slavery needs to be abolished AGAIN? This will need to be changed. Provide for mothers and elderly.

  • @g.c955
    @g.c955 3 роки тому +8

    [20:57] What happened after colonialism? A 5-minute summary of how the west drained the developing countries and created this global wealth inequality.

  • @netabaughman3079
    @netabaughman3079 3 роки тому +1

    I remember when Obama came into office. Off shore accounts were being investigated. I know you think we do not hear you but we do. Blessings xoxox

  • @jtthoma5
    @jtthoma5 Рік тому +1

    Watching these people talk at Google (David Graeber's Google Talk at Google comes to mind) is so frustrating bc even though people are listening, they will never ever ever endanger their jobs to speak up for Global Inequality. Google (or Alphabet) is one of the biggest monopolies in the world, and monopoly capitalisms is the biggest driver of poverty and abuse in the world. It's like givinga lecture of humans are a unique cooperative species to a bunch of jackals.

  • @TPGNATURAL
    @TPGNATURAL 2 роки тому

    Sounds like reality too me in this conversation. Example how equal is google in the information world ? Please show me one Corporation or Nation which does what he says needs to be done. Is it possible to do what he says needs to be done to equalize the economy,. I can't see it. If someone can realistically give me a beginning solution or a larger solution, please.

  • @ayoadene8966
    @ayoadene8966 2 роки тому +1

    Devastating

  • @SirKutuli
    @SirKutuli 2 роки тому

    40:20 Google knows that people in global south are not compensated fairely.

  • @tabu1908
    @tabu1908 2 роки тому

    why do I hear "toxic google"

  • @bawhite125
    @bawhite125 3 роки тому +4

    CRIMINALS.

    • @pureeffort4152
      @pureeffort4152 3 роки тому +1

      you're not a criminal if you write the laws

    • @Sirflyingmustache
      @Sirflyingmustache 3 роки тому +1

      @@pureeffort4152 Then you become something way worse than a criminal

  • @jeffreyherring8685
    @jeffreyherring8685 3 роки тому +2

    Jason. You talk of so many issues and results of a flawed system but never get to the core process protecting the game they play.
    Nothing will ever change until our campaign process is thoroughly overhauled.
    Yes correct! And to understand that statement, all one needs to do is take a good look at our money/time saturated campaign process to understand how it thoroughly ensures that those public servants that enter the gauntlet come out thoroughly owned and embezzled by the corporate/special interest that own and run our democracy.
    Put a little corporate owned media with the abolished Fairness Doctrine into the equation and the opinionated news process further more divides the nation and insulates the level of power and corruption that rules today’s invented democracy.
    “ Those passionate of issues are easily fooled, but those critical of process are thoroughly feared”

  • @OwenMiller9825
    @OwenMiller9825 Рік тому +1

    Just curiously, how do you have time for this? Doesn't Google require you to work on something that's going to pay the bills?

  • @Kai-gg5fv
    @Kai-gg5fv 2 роки тому

    At minute 5:36 Jason is laughing. He probably is happy because he managed to show that there are more poor people than most other commentators have argued.

  • @rnixon795
    @rnixon795 3 роки тому +2

    He say's the socialists reforms in the global south worked well because they seen growth after colonialism. It would of been hard not to grow after everything had been returned back to the people of the country. They probably would of grew at a faster rate if they took a free market approach after colonialism.

    • @MrRazmut
      @MrRazmut 2 роки тому +3

      Then why aren't they growing faster now?

    • @rnixon795
      @rnixon795 2 роки тому

      @@MrRazmut There's been a global pandamic

    • @isaacw1752
      @isaacw1752 2 роки тому +2

      @@rnixon795 the data shows virtually no growth for decades. the pandemic hasn't been there for decaeds.

    • @rnixon795
      @rnixon795 2 роки тому

      @@isaacw1752 there's been no growth in India?

  • @up4air534
    @up4air534 3 роки тому

    Narrative

  • @austinjpalus
    @austinjpalus 3 роки тому +4

    Following the speaker on Twitter, it alarms me that a supposed expert in economics broadly rejects the notion that scarcity exists.

    • @Tychoxi
      @Tychoxi 3 роки тому +18

      you mean jason hickel? he has written about how capitalism thrives on creating artificial scarcity, so he certainly doesn't deny it

    • @g.c955
      @g.c955 3 роки тому +3

      Take grains for example, we are producing more grains per person compare to 1960 (population*1.5, grain*3), so the world should be more abundant with less famine. But no, if you take out China, the world is not doing better. The problem is structural and China has avoided it by rejecting the neoliberalism ideology promoted by the west (aka, modern financial colonisation).

    • @netabaughman3079
      @netabaughman3079 3 роки тому +5

      I would agree. I live in Tahoe and 32 million dollar homes sit empty for most of the year.

  • @henrychoy2764
    @henrychoy2764 3 роки тому +6

    Mathematical Problem: $6 trillion is the cost of "ending" poverty (so people can earn $7.4 daily) - is this really going to end poverty? Or does it just create inflation, and you still can only buy just as much as you ever could? I'm sure the richest people are in favor of inflation. To say $19 trillion is the income of the richest does not mean that they would pay themselves $6 trillion less so that the poor receive $6 trillion more. The richest would rather pay themselves $6 trillion more and then ask the poorest to raise the extra $6 + 6 = 12 trillion to pay both the rich and the poor. That's the math. TRumPeace Out.

  • @MichaelDamianPHD
    @MichaelDamianPHD Місяць тому

    Absolute nonsense. The world was more "equal" when it was almost entirely impoverished.

  • @DD-ut2ew
    @DD-ut2ew 3 роки тому +3

    Jason I am afraid your analysis seems biased to me. In your “flat graph” where the number of poor has not increased since 1980 when we exclude China, something demonstrably false as we see the poorest people on Earth have smart phones now, did you forget to add the +3 billion population increase, therefore increasing the people above the line by 3B? I understand that blaming everything on “colonialism” can make your followers feel good when they denounce it, but how can your analyses explain how countries of Westerns values like Greece, that were Ottoman colonies, now do better (in per capita GDP and other metrics) compared to their colonizers? Maybe there are other parameters at play you are not looking into? Sincerely.

    • @kennethyoung7564
      @kennethyoung7564 3 роки тому +8

      You are judging development primarily in terms of industrialization, something he brings up in the video. Also you are wrong. Have you spent much time in slums in the third world? Part of the problem is framing development with the context of western institutions. I would suggest reading his book, as well as kicking down the ladder by the south korean economist that is mentioned.

    • @DD-ut2ew
      @DD-ut2ew 3 роки тому +1

      @@kennethyoung7564 you tell me I am wrong without explaining to me how I am wrong (yes, I have been to slums in Africa), you do not answer any of the points I raised and then you tell me to buy the book of someone I just said I consider biased. If you helped me understand why he is not biased I would do it. Now, have you spent any time on countries that used to be colonies? How do you explain that in many cases these countries are doing better than their neighbors? Maybe colonialism was not only exploitation?

    • @Arahura2011
      @Arahura2011 3 роки тому

      Must be privileged =|

    • @DD-ut2ew
      @DD-ut2ew 3 роки тому

      @@Arahura2011 privilege unexamined may truly make you unhinged to reality. How are you sure you’re not the privileged one? Have you, personally, earned all the benefits you have compared to the other 7B people on earth? How did you “examine” this?

    • @Arahura2011
      @Arahura2011 3 роки тому +3

      @@DD-ut2ew @DD i mean im pretty privileged in regards to the fact I don't live in a 3rd world country. Have a roof over my head, food in my belly, clothes on my back. But as an indigenous Native to my country, New Zealand. im not really treated as privileged lol(atleast imo[in my opinion]). From what i got from this whole video is basically the rich just fkx the poor and still continue to do. As a Maori, I feel strongly about the fact that we as people/culture shared our lands out of kindness, To which was repayed with cheated, stolen and profited off of land. To which were still fighting for to this day. So idk what you mean about unchecked privilege. But im assuming your genealogy/ancestors profited off the inequality he's speaking about. But idk man. Don't @ me 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️