How To Dial In A Metal Guitar Tone From Scratch: Recording Heavy guitars

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  • @FrightboxRecording
    @FrightboxRecording  4 роки тому +4

    ►► Download your FREE Guitar Cab Impulse Response by clicking HERE: frightboxrecordingacademy.com/free-impulse-response/

    • @jerryfick8547
      @jerryfick8547 4 роки тому

      Hey Bobby. Quick question. It's probably not possible, but I use cubasis3, and THU overloud amp sim. Is there a way to load a custom impulse response in that software? I'm new at this and apologize for the noob question. Thanks. Love the vids

    • @jerryfick8547
      @jerryfick8547 4 роки тому

      Cubasis3 on iOS

  • @letemsinkgames6475
    @letemsinkgames6475 4 роки тому +40

    Basically %70 of my production education comes from this channel. Thank you forever

    • @johnnyroberts8641
      @johnnyroberts8641 4 роки тому +3

      Is 70% accurate? You may be selling yourself short, or worse...you may be selling Bobby short my guy! Hire me to be your personal mathematician, ill make your percent averages 90% more accurate, 70% of the time! Guaranteed 100% or 45% of your money back! (I'm addicted to drugs, so don't think that half what you hit my hand with ain't already spent before it hits my hand, so what who cares, Yelp me if you got a problem with it I don't care im high)

    • @MikeF031
      @MikeF031 9 місяців тому

      Not all heroes wear capes ^

  • @RiverwoodOfficial
    @RiverwoodOfficial 4 роки тому +5

    That Ez drummer sounds so good wow

  • @adamsharpmusic
    @adamsharpmusic 4 роки тому +3

    I only recently got into using IRs and I couldn't believe how much of a difference it made. My tones in the past have always been kinda half arse but now they sound like a proper production!

    • @FrightboxRecording
      @FrightboxRecording  4 роки тому +2

      Yup, a great IR (or mic placement and proper cab) is everything.

    • @Doomerbolic
      @Doomerbolic 2 роки тому

      @@FrightboxRecording hey Bobby quick question where are sitting the input of your guitar ? I mean where thend to peak your DI tracks?

  • @FergbotGames
    @FergbotGames 4 роки тому +6

    Love your custom IR, been using it for a while now. The IR definitely makes or breaks the guitar tone. Thanks for providing yours for free!

  • @undeadonsteroids.official
    @undeadonsteroids.official 4 роки тому +1

    Guitar tone is a constant struggle for me. I've collected a ton of free amps and IRs over the years and I could spend hours finding the best combination each time. Most of the time I end up using the amp with the interface I like most and some IR that at least doesn't completely suck... 🤷‍♂️
    Worked for me in the mix a couple of times and in the end I was happy because as you and Jordan V. pointed out it's good as long as it works in the mix. Except for that one of my songs where the guitar plays the intro alone and I couldn't nail the tone. 😭

    • @undeadonsteroids.official
      @undeadonsteroids.official 4 роки тому

      BTW I haven't tried your IR yet but I definitely will.

    • @FrightboxRecording
      @FrightboxRecording  4 роки тому +1

      @@undeadonsteroids.official Give it a shot, I think you'll dig it. A great tone at the source needs very little (if any) tweaking in the mix.

  • @crissabater7698
    @crissabater7698 4 роки тому +1

    Totally agree with you mate. No matter what the source is get it right there before going to mixing! Cheers.

  • @HastOsth
    @HastOsth 4 роки тому +2

    Holy f, copied all your settings straight of, on an old mix of mine. It cleared right up, the sound was super tight.
    Ive been using a plethora of sims and countless hours wasted on not beeing hoppa with my sound.
    Got the best gtr sounds ive ever had in less than 5 minutes.
    Thank you for making my life so much easier!
    Time to play 😁

  • @mikeyisdead
    @mikeyisdead 3 роки тому

    Great channel lots of good info thanks :) One thing though, the free IR seems to be very low volume in anything but TSE.. no idea why?

  • @BcBaxley
    @BcBaxley 4 роки тому +1

    No amps sims for me. I love the fun of messing around with my gear 🤓 Im satisfied with my amateur home recordings now days...thanks to youtube channels like yours...It sounds like what's coming out of the amp. I cant wait to get a bigger place and start recording live drums 😁

  • @metalbass211
    @metalbass211 4 роки тому +1

    Man!!! That bass tone in the intro gets me every time!

    • @FrightboxRecording
      @FrightboxRecording  4 роки тому +3

      Just a 1998 Ibanez Sound Gear with fresh strings plugged straight into my two-channel interface. A great bass tone is 75% fresh strings and tight playing in my opinion.

    • @PASHKULI
      @PASHKULI 3 роки тому

      MIDI sounding :\

  • @CrushingAxes
    @CrushingAxes 4 роки тому +1

    TSE sounds very nice ! Very nice tips !! Awesome video.

  • @michaelfrgegaard881
    @michaelfrgegaard881 4 роки тому +1

    Killer information here for a newbie producer like me. Thanks a lot for sharing this.

  • @MikeBellMetal
    @MikeBellMetal 15 днів тому

    I found this plugin to be kinda thin and fizzy when using it as a practice guitar sound, but when used in a mix and double tracked it sounds pretty good. I’ve since replaced it with the Neural DSP Archetype: Gojira which is much nicer all round, but this is great for a free plugin 👍

  • @jordanheyvaert6204
    @jordanheyvaert6204 4 роки тому +2

    You sold me on the Tube Screamer. That's one major thing I have lacked and will make a tremendous difference for me. Thanks!

  • @ashamael
    @ashamael 4 роки тому

    I actually just bought an amp sim that used one IR... the IR is a dude whose tone is usually great (someone I respect a lot), and people liked the IR with the sim, but I didn't. I tweaked and tweaked and just wasn't satisfied. I then used a different IR and BAM: *magic* It didn't sound like I wanted it to sound until I fixed the IR.
    It makes such a huge difference.

  • @DorothyOzmaLover
    @DorothyOzmaLover 4 роки тому

    As a guitar composer/performer for book trailers about comics seeking inspiration, your modeling and explanations is great since it's practical and note specific settings. Thanks!

  • @ozonelayercake
    @ozonelayercake 7 місяців тому

    Amazing and engaging stuff, thank you. Do you cover how to get good drum tones as well? (Midi )
    Also, that song is dope!

  • @anthonydahl5454
    @anthonydahl5454 2 роки тому

    Thanks, Helped a lot ! Love your approach!

  • @BlackAxtant0
    @BlackAxtant0 6 місяців тому +1

    thanks matt tuck

  • @descendinguniverse
    @descendinguniverse 4 роки тому +1

    I use ampsims but track with hardware preamp with 0 latency (Direct Monitoring). Thе most convenient setup for me

  • @gatoloco_media
    @gatoloco_media 4 роки тому

    For me , any amp sim is okay but not the Impulse Response
    I used IR from here and thats fixed everything , before I found STL amp sim . Then mix IR from here and STL amp sim and the result is mind blowing. But I got much "unique" tone from it , not too bad but "unique"
    but still , source is important

  • @ZachAdkinsGuitar
    @ZachAdkinsGuitar 4 роки тому

    I talked about you in my video on my channel! Used your fright box cab and told little too come subscribe and grab that cab sim from you

  • @basskirkster
    @basskirkster 4 роки тому +1

    First off let me say that your IR is awesome. I use it a lot. Well done.
    Secondly your vids are awesome and full of great information.
    I have a question for you.
    So many videos talk about the low end of the guitar fighting the bass and kick drum in a mix so a lot of guys eq it down some. I am curious your thoughts on a band like Testament and how they mix their guitars that have a bunch of low end for in your face guitar tone? Especially on Brotherhood of the Snake album?
    Just wondering your thoughts.

    • @FrightboxRecording
      @FrightboxRecording  4 роки тому +1

      I follow a simple rule of thumb...the tighter the guitar player, the more low-end I can leave in. I usually roll my guitars off at around 70Hz if the guitar playing is tight.

  • @JoeHasGas
    @JoeHasGas Рік тому +1

    Can u do any update? So many free high gain amp plugins are out now from free to 100+ bucks . Ty ty

  • @4rocknrolla4
    @4rocknrolla4 4 роки тому

    Thanks as always sensei!

  • @jaigreen7738
    @jaigreen7738 4 роки тому

    I’m recording real amps and I’m getting very happy with the tone now that I’ve acquired a direct box. It was hard to pan left and right tracks when I was trying to align two guitars by ear. Now that I can see what I’m trying to do it’s helping instead of hurting! Lol. Guitar player is running an old 80’s Mesa boogie half stack and a kustom bass amp split with an aby pedal and tuned to g. We put close mics on both while facing away from each other about 20degrees or so and a room mic across the way bout ten twelve feet. Eq omg takes a little longer but it’s great having a fader for low end and one for high end Also panning close mics while leaving the room mics in the middle seems to work pretty well to glue shit together as that channel is usually bout half as loud as the close mics. Been doing lots of experimentation with that and will also start getting even more weird once the reamp pedal arrives! Do you have any wisdom to share pertaining to guitars through multiple amps or thru bass amps. I’m happy with what I get mostly but a little creative spark goes a long way so I’d love to hear your experience. Thanks for all you do Brutus man. Keep it up!

    • @FrightboxRecording
      @FrightboxRecording  4 роки тому

      I rarely combine amps. I usually find a tone I like and stick with it for the main guitar sound. That being said, if you like the results you're getting...stick with it!

    • @jaigreen7738
      @jaigreen7738 4 роки тому

      I agree with the point of keeping things simple. The two amps thing was something my guitar player had been doing since before I joined and I find it helps fill the low end as we are a two person band. Just drums guitar and vocals. When playing solos or leads there’s a ditto loop pedal playing the rhythm thru the bass cab while the guitar diverges onto whatever the part is over the rhythm. Thanks for all the tips and great content.

  • @ace88bf
    @ace88bf 4 роки тому

    Ive worked a bit with amp sims, i dont dislike them, but until something dethrones the ease of having a hi gain tube amp with an xlr DI out built in (bless you hughes & kettner) that is mostly production ready aside from some EQ in post, i really have no reason to switch from my amp to an amp sim.

  • @RolandDeschain1
    @RolandDeschain1 4 роки тому +1

    There's a dude who put out a batch of Metallica IRs that match the sound of each album. Amazing stuff.

  • @jamesshafer6700
    @jamesshafer6700 4 роки тому

    Killer IR! Very nice!

  • @bryceerickson
    @bryceerickson 3 роки тому

    Have you used Guitar rig 5? I dialed in a tone that is pretty good based on your settings but I can't load an amp sim with GR5. Just wondering if you have used that plugin and what were your results if so? Thank you so much for the videos!

  • @James_Noone
    @James_Noone 4 роки тому +1

    I use ez mix for tones, there are some sick tones made from guitar players, only problem some of them kill the cpu 😒

    • @James_Noone
      @James_Noone 4 роки тому

      @Sergio I have an 8 year old alienware m14x 😂

  • @afinello
    @afinello 4 роки тому

    What about adding some room reverb on top of it? For me the guitars sound a bit “empty” especially through the headphones (90% of listeners nowadays). And what about getting good sustain on the amp sim?

  • @Bogdan_Tolm
    @Bogdan_Tolm 4 роки тому

    Really dig into your IR though. I built custom guitar plugins chain. I use Magic Samplitude (only for PC and it’s support 32 bit plugins) and of my guitar I use: TSE 808 tube screamer, Poullin LeCto (as far, as I remember, it’s for PC only) it’s a copy of Mesa head, OurCabinetSimulator which mix Mesa and Soldano cabs IRs and I really love the sound, but unfortunately, it’s only 32 bit plugin), and noise gate. I use your IR, Bobby, mostly for GTR tone like Whitechapel and I’m in LOVE with it for that brutal meat tone

  • @FogHazard
    @FogHazard 4 роки тому +1

    I had been trying to get a good tone with Kazrog's stuff for a good while, but was never satisfied with the results (this is my fault I'm sure, not theirs, due to a variety of factors.) I gave up on trying to dial it in myself and got a wicked deal on EZMix 2 a couple years ago. Stuck with that since.
    However, I saw this video today and forgot how good a custom dialed-in tone could sound. I remembered TSE from a few years ago and picked it up on sale today for 50% off! Now, with this info from your video, I feel ready to try to dial in the tone again. Thank you!

    • @FrightboxRecording
      @FrightboxRecording  4 роки тому

      The TSE is so good...it blows away most of the fancy pants overpriced guitar sims in my opinion.

  • @AlbertodeVictoria
    @AlbertodeVictoria 4 роки тому

    Great impulse response!

  • @Yanthungbemo
    @Yanthungbemo 4 роки тому

    Seeing "the process" is always interesting. 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @bruciferjordan2067
    @bruciferjordan2067 3 роки тому

    im using the will putney plug in. how would you rate there impulse resp. and does what you said about the software people making I.R,s go with that plu in as well . if im making sence??

  • @riffermadness96
    @riffermadness96 2 роки тому

    Amazing !!!

  • @chrisbasham6958
    @chrisbasham6958 2 роки тому

    Man, any videos of recording guitars from the ground up, like you're doing this? Anyone, please let me know, and thanks for all the help man!

  • @tomix1970pl1
    @tomix1970pl1 4 роки тому

    I was using your impuls in STL Tones amp sim.And there was no any change in the sound.STL doesn't allowe to other impulses to take effect in my opinion.I did the same with ML Soud Lab impulses and effect was similar.Am i going deff?But in free Stivie T your impuls sounds fantastic.

    • @FrightboxRecording
      @FrightboxRecording  4 роки тому

      Are you sure it was definitely loaded? Usually swapping IRs changes any tone drastically.

  • @markbeitle5297
    @markbeitle5297 4 роки тому

    Use bias amp 2 and fx with the frightbox IR almost all the time now!. Nice consistent balance across the spectrum. Would you ever make other IR's or do you think that's all you really need for this genre?

  • @dbmdrums1105
    @dbmdrums1105 2 роки тому

    Great stuffed!

  • @corbinreed8937
    @corbinreed8937 3 роки тому

    So the link to download the ir doesnt work. just sends me to a video after i input my email and nothing happens

  • @DKGuitars-DKG
    @DKGuitars-DKG 2 роки тому

    Is this IR useable with an axe-fx?

  • @Shung79
    @Shung79 2 роки тому +1

    you look like
    Matthew Tuck from BFMV

  • @RobertMurphy-wm3ge
    @RobertMurphy-wm3ge 9 місяців тому

    Keepin it real

  • @MetalTalk666
    @MetalTalk666 3 роки тому

    What state are you in?

  • @TheMax1508
    @TheMax1508 4 роки тому

    Hey Bobby, what power amp did you use to make this impulse response ?

    • @FrightboxRecording
      @FrightboxRecording  4 роки тому +1

      I used the power amp section of my Vetta II HD. It's a solid state/clean power amp (which is the only way to properly capture IRs). Hope that helps!

  • @SilentScreamsStudios
    @SilentScreamsStudios 4 роки тому

    We're you running anything on the master track at all?

  • @emimele
    @emimele 4 роки тому +2

    I honestly would like to see new content from you, not again how good is your free downloadable IR, how minimal are your cuts with stock EQ, your "get it right from the source!" mantra, and so on. It's interesting the first two times, then it becomes boring. It's the same mistake that Recording Revolution is doing, the exact basic concepts repeated over and over.

  • @rmcga
    @rmcga 4 роки тому

    Amp sims all the way for me. By the way, do you also find that receiving bad DIs can be just as difficult to work with?

    • @johnnyroberts8641
      @johnnyroberts8641 4 роки тому

      If you have a DI that was tracked by a pro shredder that has control over string vibrations and whatnot, you can put that DI into any ampsim and it sound stellar. It really is all about getting it right at the source, Bobby and other wizards of UA-cam Metal Mixing have that as a golden rule.
      There is some processing that can be done to brighten the DI, Ive even messed with transient plugins when recording djent style breakdowns to emphasize the pick attack and clamp down on the sustain...works wonders!
      Throw a compressor on your DI before it hits anything else at 4:1 ratio, around 3-5dB gain reduction, 5ms attack 250 second release :) sustain for days son! Gain stage the makeup gain so input and output match, so you aren't overloading any plugins you throw on after. It obviously can produce artifacts you might not like (messing with DI is very slippery slope) but tweaking a compressor like the TDR Kotelnikov (highly transparent compressor, free) can beef up individual notes, chord sustain, etc if you happen to be working with a low signal DI or just a poorly tracked DI.
      I'd also suggest doing a 6dB HPF on a DI, to slice the DIs low end slightly, id say up to 150 or 200hz...then use a high shelf or wide Q bell filter to boost the 2-5khz range, a DI signal isn't hitting that register normally so boost pretty drastic until you hear the brightness itll give the DI. id suggest listening through your ampsim. For downtuned or 7, 8 string guitar tracks, you can also dip the 7-800hz range heavy. Experiment with what the low or high mid cutting will take away from the distortion of your amp but it can lead to some pretty amazing tones! Check out Humanitys Last Breath for examples. He cuts mids heavy, runs it through the Fortin Nameless Suite

    • @FrightboxRecording
      @FrightboxRecording  4 роки тому +1

      When a client sends me a crap DI track, I won't even bother taking on the project. A solid DI is everything.

    • @johnnyroberts8641
      @johnnyroberts8641 4 роки тому

      @@FrightboxRecording Those who can't produce solid DI's are oblivious to how much it truly IS everything. I was studying Humanitys Last Breath DI tracks for their song Animal, Buster Odeholm is a gangster...he processes DI for maximum efficiency of target frequencies going into an ampsim, and he even edits clip gain levels or possibly just volume automation to shape swells of low end sustain, and enhance pick attack almost like what a transient shaper does to the attack of a snare!
      I ran those DI tracks through the shittiest freeware ampsims all the way up to the Helix Stomp and Neural DSP Suites.....its hard to make that DI track sound bad when mixing

  • @Salantsoundstudios
    @Salantsoundstudios 4 роки тому

    simply rockin!!!!!

  • @marcusdingstad2129
    @marcusdingstad2129 4 роки тому

    Does anybody know where I can get a 64-bit tubescreamer? Asking as a mac user😳

    • @FrightboxRecording
      @FrightboxRecording  4 роки тому

      Pretty sure Waves makes one in their GTR bundle.

    • @Bogdan_Tolm
      @Bogdan_Tolm 4 роки тому

      There’s TSE 808 and it’s free, I use it

  • @richjennings63
    @richjennings63 4 роки тому

    I've been using bias fx for awhile. I do like some of the tones I get out of it. But I'm wondering what the rest of you guys think of bias.

    • @FrightboxRecording
      @FrightboxRecording  4 роки тому

      I've used it for leads, but usually not for rhythms.

    • @RolandDeschain1
      @RolandDeschain1 4 роки тому

      Bias FX is great if you want to spend the time to dial in a tone, but the preset tones are trash.

  • @BilalAhmed-vl4qw
    @BilalAhmed-vl4qw 4 роки тому

    I don't know what ever i do I just suck on mixing

  • @MetalTalk666
    @MetalTalk666 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the tips. I'm never happy with tones.

  • @dustinray1840
    @dustinray1840 4 роки тому +1

    I used n track to create some simple demos. Isnt much but come check out some of my stuff via bandlab @ dustinray/waefguitar

  • @ChadKirk
    @ChadKirk 3 роки тому

    Bro why you always mix your snare way too loud

  • @CityInTheDark1
    @CityInTheDark1 4 роки тому

    I always record guitars first so the drummer has something to vibe to. Especially if the guitarist is a super tight player.

  • @PASHKULI
    @PASHKULI 3 роки тому

    hmm, the way you deliver the presentation tells me that either you are lying or at least hiding information regarding the pre-mixing preparation of the DI aslo the impulse response you are using. We both know what a terrible sh¡t tone of lows a DI has on its own. It has to be filtered somehow or at least on a channel strip plugin of some sort.