it’s sad that in our current facetune and surgery obsessed culture, a lot of these natural features are being wiped out as everyone seeks to look the same.
I once met a cosmetic surgeon who told me - you face is probably the least desireable when people are really young but as people age it becomes the most desireable face they want. You have a gold standard face . So I find it odd wheen people that didnt have any cheeck bones or lips have features that were formally ugly or manly
@@MsMrReason I think I know what you mean. Growing up, I got made fun of because of my sharp jawline, high cheekbones, and large eyes. My mom has them & so do my grandmothers on both sides of my family. I’m Hispanic and it’s more common, but in the early 2000’s in the state I grew up in there was hardly any diversity at the time so it was “weird.” It is better now, but at the same time I noticed that the same people contour their faces to resemble the same features they used to mock. So odd to me. I just embraced my natural looks by the end of high school & would even highlight my high cheekbones and large eyes. I’m only in my mid 20’s so it wasn’t that long ago when people were still making fun of women and girls with high cheekbones, sharp jawlines, and large eyes..
Honestly this video has convinced me to stop guessing and just get a consultation done. I think it can be rather difficult to see yourself accurately in the way that others do. I tend to see myself in segments but other people just see the whole. Your videos are light hearted and fun so they feel very approachable. Thank you.
I recently had an in-person consult with John Kitchener. My consult included both the PSC System of Color and Essence Harmonies. Mr. Kitchener is a trained artist with a very high level of color acuity, along with the education (and experience) to understand the technicalities of color. Mr. Kitchener is the opposite of a "formulaic" color consult. You are not placed in a "season" like HOC (4 season) or Sci/Art (12 season), etc. Not that there is anything wrong with those systems. But much of the benefit of your consult depends on the natural talent and training of the consultant. And, most people are typically a blend. Personally, I found a great deal of variation in the Sci/Art (12 season) community. (Don't get me started on the 16 season system.) The Essence Harmonies segment of my consult was also very informative. The most significant aspect of Mr. Kitchener's systems is that you are NEVER just one thing. He believes and argues that we are all blends of different essences, much like your personal coloring. This made a great deal of sense to me. I am happy to share more information regarding either of the two consults if anyone is interested.
@@wendyduncan9084 On the color side of the consult, I ended up with a very detailed binder of color samples all in fabric swatches. In a few weeks I will receive a smaller size sample booklet for shopping but, again, all in fabric. Mr. Kitchener explained that there is a significant difference in looking at color samples via fabric swatches versus printed color on paper. It is hard to imagine how many fabric samples Mr. Kitchener has in his drawers. All hand cut by him. In Sci/Art I was first a Soft Autumn, then a True Winter, next a Dark Autumn? and lastly a Soft Summer. Soft Summer was reconfirmed and in the 80s the Color Me Beautiful consultant analyzed me as a Summer. I do have coolness in my undertones, but I am not cold. But, in some colors I can take a bit more warmth (slightly.) This nuance is not available in the formulaic systems. And, in the Essence Consultation, nuance again plays a huge role. I could never figure out what Kibbe I was (either with the 13 class system of the newer 10 class version.) The reason; because I am blended. I am 5'7" and thin but not skinny. I am mostly Classic, but I have a good dose of Romantic (softness) and the same amount of Dramatic (vertical) or Soft Dramatic. I appear taller than I am. I also have a pinch of Natural in me (shoulders) but I would never dress like most Naturals, naturally. If I wear jeans, they will be dark wash, tailored and I will have a very feminine top on (classic and romantic) and beautiful shoes on my feet. The nuances of the blending just made total sense to me. Hope this helps!
@@anyaamasova6607 thank you so much. You seemed to have had a wonderful afternoon learning so many things. I agree about the way light interacts with color on fabric. Its very nuanced.
Celebrities and models tend to have healthy diets, and time, money and access to fitness.. therefore overweight women are a minority when sourcing photos from that realm.
This makes so much more sense than the Kibbe System. Despite being tall for a woman (which excludes me from a lot of kibbe types), I am commonly complimented along the lines of being “adorable”, pretty, or graceful, which aligns so well between ingénue and ethereal!
That's exactly me lol, I'm 5'11 but everyone says I have a cute face, my eyes are very sympathetic and my lips have a dramatic cupid arc, giving me a very 20's look
Kibbe's system is supposed to help you to understand your lines (bone structure + flesh) in order to find the best fabrics, cuts and shapes for clothes, jewelry, hair and accessories to enhance your natural beauty or to achieve a certain image. Sometimes, the facial features and the body structure are not exactly aligned, and those are the cases where the Kibbe system alone won't be enough to understand that particular beauty, so the concept of Essence will appear. The Essence is related to the "appearance" (yes, because not always what looks soft, tall, or short really are that, our eyes can be tricked by small details that changes our perception) of your shape - mostly your face :)
since i was a teenager, I’ve always appreciated styling and how it can play up your sense of self. never have I had the words to explain exactly what you described in this video. I’ve always felt each individual gives off a certain “essence” as you describe and that the same thing doesn’t necessarily look good on everyone but that everyone can find something they look beautiful in. this is so FASCINATING
1:10 Dramatic 2:37 Natural 4:22 Gamine 6:06 Classic 7:15 Romantic 8:28 Ingenue 10:05 Ethereal I enjoyed your video and the insights you provided this comment is for future reference 😃
I never felt like I fit any of these types, but once I heard about ingenue it all just clicked into place. I’ve naturally been gravitating to this style for years, and now I know why! Thank you!
i'm a pure romantic with romantic essence - thankyou for making me feel better about how i can dress my body now as i have always dressed very masculine - truly life changing advice x
I realize now I also am pure romantic!! I struggled for so long with my feminine side and it really is a process for me to get to the point to embracing it ! Everything makes so much sense here, thank you for this video !!
You don't have to follow your type. I'm a flamboyant gamine, but I wear classic and natural lines. I hate colour blocking, and other FG recommended fashions.
Personally I like how she specified you don't HAVE to dress according to your essence or anything, because although I know that, I still don't feel like I fit in any of them alone, so it does reassure me when she says that.
I’ve been thinking I’m a Classic essence but what really clicked was when you talked about how they shine in minimal outfits. I had a friend help me clean out my closet recently, and she kept suggesting outfits combos I could try that had a LOT going on. I didn’t have the words to explain why they didn’t appeal to me at all-but when I saw this video, it was like a bell ringing. Now it’s crystal clear. I wear more minimal outfits because I shine in them more. Thank you for that validation! I love how well you explain all these concepts.
As I was watching I was sitting there like “kind of? Definitely not. A little bit? Maybe?” And then got to classic and was like “oh that’s the one.” I still watched through the others and I was right. Classic is definitely my essence and I’m super here for it (My Kibbe body type is flamboyant natural)
Would be super helpful to make part 2 , with practical tips for shopping clothes for every type. How some of the photos are only for evening look and others are only for a walk in the park, or office. Would be super cool to see the different types to translate to different occasions clothing
Seeing the ethereal essence really helped me place some of my features that I never understood in conjunction with my Kibbe type. Can we see some more with examples with different skin tones?
Wait this actually cleared up all my doubts. I used to dress in an ingenue or gamine sort of way and it would always look weird on me. It didn't quite fit me (personality wise or face wise) despite every website telling me I could rock it. Over the last few months, I have been dressing in a classical/romantic sort of way and I've never looked better. Thank you for this video :)
Tbh in the beginning I thought this is quite bs but then I matched these traits and features to most of the women I know and it made a lot of sense, also I’m pretty sure I’m romantic if this is unbiased of gender ;) Nice video 👍🏻
For the Kibbe, I always get Dramatic. For Kitchener, I get Ethereal. The most Yin and Yang, haha. I've styled/dressed in these 2 ways my whole life without knowing about these style/essence categories! And they both work on me extremely well, so this was super interesting to learn. Thanks for breaking it down in a way that is easy to understand ❤
Just imagined the Types as Movie characters, because it‘s really fascinating how certain types are often chosen for the roles: -Dramatic: Evil Queen/Wizard 🔮🌑 -Gamine: Adventurer 🌲🌋 -Natural: Witch 🚬🧪 -Romantic: Fairy 🌸🦋 -Etheral: Angel🌫🗻 -Classic: Princess 💍👗
I’m finally beginning to understand typing haha! My body type for sure fits the pure romantic but my face and essence are definitely a mix of ethereal and ingenue based on my features and how people see me! It makes sense because the styles for those types are what I’m most drawn to and what people say I look best in! Thank you so much for this video, it’s super helpful since typing can be confusing💖
This series has been so helpful! I’ve been able to determine that I’m a mix of classic and romantic essences and it has really helped me refine my wardrobe!
This video is detailed with so many pictures that I am seeing celebrity pictures through its lens, and understanding why the outfit works on the person. It’s my third time watching it. Thank you, I am learning a lot!
After much debate, I've come to see that I'm ethereal, classic, and romantic in essence. I struggled a lot in the kibbe system because I kept getting SD or DC and neither quite worked. I realized that ethereal is my missing piece. My elongation is far more ethereal than dramatic in nature.
I'm a mix of CLASSIC, GAMINE AND NATURAL. I don't stick to a particular type always, I'm more masculine in a way but 70% classic. I love feminine essence but I never saw "myself" in it, everyone else looks great in it and I admire all the women out there knowing what she needs! ❤️
I recently had an in-person consult with John Kitchener. My consult included both the PSC System of Color and Essence Harmonies. Mr. Kitchener is a trained artist with a very high level of color acuity, along with the education (and experience) to understand the technicalities of color. Mr. Kitchener is the opposite of a "formulaic" color consult. You are not placed in a "season" like HOC (4 season) or Sci/Art (12 season), etc. Not that there is anything wrong with those systems. But much of the benefit of your consult depends on the natural talent and training of the consultant. And, most people are typically a blend. Personally, I found a great deal of variation in the Sci/Art (12 season) community. (Don't get me started on the 16 season system.) The Essence Harmonies segment of my consult was also very informative. The most significant aspect of Mr. Kitchener's systems is that you are NEVER just one thing. He believes and argues that we are all blends of different essences, much like your personal coloring. This made a great deal of sense to me. I am happy to share more information regarding either of the two consults if anyone is interested.
Best description of John Kitchener’s Essences in a UA-cam video!! It’s about time people looked to his styling system rather than so much Kibbe. Thank you and how wonderful this video has so many views 😃🌸
I’m very petite and young looking for my age and people would always say Gamine, but the way you described Classic essence I had an aha moment! This is exactly when I feel my best.
I was always confused with the way I looked, some people would tell me I looked cute, and some, or even the same people would say I looked scary, and mean this made me so insecure until now when I realized that I have an ethereal type of beauty, and this was definitely a confidence booster
My face is definitely ingenue. I've always been told I look innocent and cute (even when I'm angry). And at 22 years old I still get mistaken for 17/18 at times. Especially if I'm wearing no or natural makeup. Not sure where my body type fits though as I do have broader hips and shoulders (like an hourglass but without the bigger bust) I like feminine clothes like flowers maxi dresses with fluttery sleeves with a detailed or (soft) colorful patterns or lace trims (mostly the summer). But I also like wearing simple clothes as just jeans and a cardigan. Although those soft colors look great on me like a soft pink and baby blue. So I feel like I definitely have that youthful feminine essence that suites me the best, but never childlike. I don't like the very childlike style and rather go for more simple styles for everyday wear.
I'm a fellow ingenue too! Do you think we suit the natural types of clothing? I don't really like wearing youthful girlish clothes and would rather wear a more timeless, conservative (longer sleeves and everything) clothes but Idk if it will make us looks like we try too hard and didn't match our own preferable style :(
@@kezyuck325 I think that natural clothes (more relaxed/bohemian) can look good as long as you keep your body shape in mind. For example, wearing completely loose fitting garments doesn't suit my body. It just makes me look bigger. So I always make sure there is some more fitted element. So maybe flowy pants with a more fitted top (doesn't mean skin tight) so I don't lose my shape. Or straight jeans with a simple t-shirt (tucked in) looks nice. Basically all the ways to give some waist definition. Maybe also look at how you can make use of lengths. So a high waisted pants/skirt with a shorter or tucked in top. Or a extra long flowy blouse with skinny jeans. Color wise look at what shades might work for you. I am quite pale with neutral to warm tones. So softer shades work better for me then very dramatic ones. Although i can get away with a lot because of my more neutral coloring. I for example love wearing more rust colored shades. I have a beautiful rust colored flowy maxi skirt that looks great on me (as i have those tones in my hair), but i would never go for mustard yellows or olive greens. Those all fit with more bohemian/earthy colors but not all work for me. I think it's really looking at how you can make that style work for your body and coloring. I am soft looking all over. I have no sharpness and I am quite pale (but neutral to warm toned). So fully natural styling doesn't work for me, so I take the elements of that style and make in work for myself. So I think it'd keeping in mind your essence, body type and style and try to combine that. My body type (apart from the softness) doesn't completely fit the ingenue type, so if your body does fit ingenue completely as well it might be harder for me to give you advice.
No offence but you're too young to be typed Everyone thinks they're ingenue at 22 because they look young because they ARE if you look the same aged 32 you might get a better idea of your real type Remember kibbe says its not reliable under age 25
@@kezyuck325 ua-cam.com/users/DearlyBethany this is a youtube channel I really like all about styling tips. Very simply explained and to the point. Also someone who goed for timeless pieces and tends to keep coverage in mind for the people that find ot important
According to the kibbe types, I would be a dramatic body type, but it's never matched my face. This video cleared it up for me, thanks so much! FYI, I have a long, elongated face with upwards angles that are not at all bold or dramatic, they're very soft and I get told I look timeless a lot, so I guess I'm an ethereal! I also just realised why long hair suits me, and braids are always my go-to!
You might be a soft dramatic then. I thinf if you are pretty thin, you could still be a soft dramatic taking your face into account. The length does add a yang aspect to your face, even if it is quite soft.
@@wanjahe8749 It's a good idea, but I'm not thin. I have an athletic body type despite being quite tall, and I've never been told I have soft features if that makes sense?
Same here! I found that I have a soft classic body type but my face fits more of the romantic essence than a classic face. My body is well proportioned with some roundness. My face on the other hand I don’t believe is very symmetrical. It fits more with the romantic essence.
My kibbe body type is dramatic classic but I definitely wear ingenue clothes. I've always been described as cute more than anything else and people think I'm wayyy younger than I am. I love the playful but girly ingenue clothes and that's just my style. I always wear pastels bcos they look the best on me, lace, bows and silk look pretty good on me too. But I try to follow a classic silhouette, keeping things minimum and a straight shape.
I fit into the Ingénue description as those are my features. But I dress and gravitate more towards Classic. I feel my personality matches classic because I like the clean and timeless look of it. Plus it’s probably cheaper in the long run because nothing in the Classic wardrobe will go out of fashion compared to Ingenue.
same here. my facial features align most closely to ingenue but my personality leans more into the classic essence, and i also tend to dress like that. honestly, i feel i'll look silly and not get taken seriously if i followed the girlish ingenue style.
Learning these systems has helped so much 🙌🏻 I always wondered why I avoided prints and graphics (other than simple and subtle plaids) like the plague-turns out I have a classic essence! It’s so interesting how (generally) we naturally gravitate toward the styles that look better on us, and naturally avoid those that don’t. How we feel (and project to others) in different styles is the simplest indicator-we just know when there’s harmony. ✨ But putting a name to our individual patchwork of aesthetics is a game changer!
OMG! So glad this was in my rec. I don't fit into any Kibbe type, but I fit very well into the ethereal essence. I usually dress in vintage clothing but find it usually doesn't look great on me. I found this fairy-like white dress in a shop one day and it looks as if it were made for me! This is a better system than Kibbe because it doesn't restrict based on height and figure type.
Kitchener essences are beneficial for finding a certain style within the known lines of a person's body type. But what the Kitchener system can't do is successfully categorized the different lines and combinations of lines. Kibbe is definitely dated and has a lot of inconsistencies. But for those who are into a more scientific approach of body typology, I suggest looking into the Dwyn Larson system. She used a very thorough approach to distinguish features, instead of the typical this looks sharp, this looks soft, we don't know what exactly this is so it must be classic, like I see with a lot of mainstream systems. For example a lot of tall sharp people with very youthful, ingenue faces would normally be categorized as dramatic in the Kibbe system and would never look harmonious in purely dramatic styles. But in the Larson system, this person would be a dramatic gamine with an ingenue essense, and their style would need to combine the angular and height of a dramatic with the details of a gamine, especially around the face. We see that the possible combinations of dramatic and gamine are endless. Sarah Jessica Parker for example is also a gamine dramatic (short but sharp angular features) in the Larson system although she looks very different from Sophia Loren, who is the same type (tall with big, bright, youthful features, people tend to think she's a soft dramatic because of her curves but in doing that her amazing gamine facial features get ignored), they just have different combinations of the same two types with differences essenses. Stereotyping does more harm than good for typing the unique combinations of features everyone possesses. Her research is amazing, I highly recommend looking into it.
I was having a really hard time figuring all this stuff out about myself, but I think my body type and essence are actually two different, which helps a lot, as I always get called things like sweetie, and am always complimented about how young I look, because people are usually surprised by my age. Thankfully though I have found my essence easier then thought, which is kinda funny because it matches one of my style roots as well. Though it was my eye doctor who straight up said I have nice large eyes for contacts.
My body is pure romantic and my face is soft and round, people always think I am 10+ years younger than I am and assume I am innocent or immature, but I have delicate facial features and small eyes that are easily overpowered. I can never figure out essences 😅
I would trust that overall effect you create which is that innocence, you probably have ingenue essence if this is the case, remember its not about having ALL of the features, but enough that it creates the impression :)
Always thought I was a romantic as I have an hourglass figure but since discovering I'm a soft natural through your videos I've found finding dresses and styles that suit and flatter my width SO MUCH EASIER. I'm also figuring I have ethereal essence as I tend to gravitate towards wavy braided hair and have soft and harsh features which I'm always trying to balance out....fascinating, helpful work as always
I know it’s not malicious, but I really REALLY wish people could find words other then “ordinary” and “average” for Natural. It always comes across as if people are saying “among all these specials types, you are the designated not-actually-special.”
@@heyitzsamurai What I find so difficult with the way people talk about Natural essence is that, to me, it sounds so generic. At least with Kibbe you can look at the actual physicality of your features, your proportions and lines. But essence seems to be just "vibes." Dramatic is intense/commanding, classic is elegant, romantic is lush and alluring, gamine is energetic and spunky, and natural is...a human? A relaxed, vaguely athletic looking human??
I really am a mix of Classic and Ingenue. I have a small rounded face, but with some more masculinising elements like a sharper jaw line and heavier straight Greek nose. It's reflected in my style, with a greatly practical silhouette based on Edwardian fashion: I dress like that daily, 1900/1910s working style with a blouse and walking skirt, it creates a simple and crisps silhouette in which I tend to mix basic solid tones for the skirt and blouse... And then I put one of my haori, traditional Japanese vests, on top and everything becomes very animated and colourful and full of various seasonal patterns. I also set my hair in an Edwardian fashion but youthful, with volume at the top and the length either set in a bun or in an untied braid for the accidentally messy look that is in fact more elaborate and deliberate than it looks. I'm often told I give the impression of having jumped out of a book or an old picture, and my nickname at work is Mary Poppins. I used to think I was Gamine, and it is a style that suits me because of the mix of Classic and Ingenue, but this is more like a secondary style for me, now that I learned your definitions? Though coincidentally, the working outfit of the average Edwardian lady did use masculine elements to get the crisp silhouette, with added feminine elements on top like the hairdo and the lace inserts in the blouse. I think this classification is more precise than the Kibbe type.
First time for one of these videos that I felt that it all made sense and everything clicked. Once you started describing gamine essence it legit felt like you were describing me and I loved your video!! So informative yet so reassuring :)
This was such a good video! I wasn’t sure what to expect, I especially didn’t expect to be able to invision myself in an essence, I find my style sometimes confusing and contradicting 😅 but the natural essence completely described me! Masculine styles, casual and sporty, but also soft flowy and earthy. Even my facial features were described exactly! I love comfort and function so always reach for mens clothes, and have sometimes felt insecure that I’m not dressed up or feminine enough. This has helped me understand my style so much better and given me so much more confidence to continue in my own aesthetic!
Great video! Very interesting! I think I have a combination of natural classic ethereal. Would you do a video with combinations of the essences showing examples & outfits that might work?
I always had a lot of trouble finding out what fashion should I wear or what hairstyle should I have, I was basically born to be a gamine but I always had this little voice in my head (plus the pressure of some family members and friends) telling me that I'm not "feminine enough" and sometimes it pushes me to try other styles that I just simply do not feel comfortable with and end up in a crisis with myself and how I look in the mirror. Usually I refuse to watch videos about fashion since I think they're mostly "limiting" but this one has helped me to understand better something about myself. Thank you.
omg i am definitely a natural face type, and i’ve always felt drawn to, and prettiest in, vintage clothing and hair/makeup! and i’ve felt embarrassed by how simple and basic my wardrobe is, but now i know i’m just letting my face shine 😇
It’s crazy, I’m pretty sure I’m a cross between the dramatic and ethereal types. I’ve always been told that I look intimidating and also like I have a certain maturity and grace to me. Opposing sides of the spectrum. How interesting 😌
Thank you. I have now narrowed my style down to natural. It’s like a mixture of masculine and feminine style, which is exactly what I am going for. I even like the natural makeup look to go with the clothes. 😀
As many have suggested, you are ingenue with your light, wide set eyes which stand out, large forehead and overall youthful look. You've got to be honest with yourself and not simple choose what you want to be.
fr ! i see the trend continues in the comments.. i feel like natural had the least flattering description so you don’t see people identifying with it a lot
I also felt like a lot of people are saying they are ingenue just to look the most youthful, because that seems to be what’s starting to trend. As someone actually ingenue (who’s 27 and gets mistaken for 13-15) I can say that the majority of you don’t look like that 🥲 and I’m not sure we’re all of a sudden all these people in the comments are claiming to. I personally see little people in person that look like myself and even online. I’d personally kill to look a little more sharp. I feel I stick out like a sore thumb with my baby face and short height. It seriously embarrassed but I’ve learned to embrace is. It’s just annoying when you finally accept yourself when you’ve got bullied for years for looking a certain way and now everyone wants to look like that/gaslight themselves that they look so
now i get it! i have a pure classic body type and i automatically knew that i look good in minimal and timeless clothes. but looking at my closet, i also have puff sleeves, ruffles, flouncy dresses and other youthful feminine clothes and people kept complimenting me on how i look good wearing them. i have ingenue essence! thank you for this video, that cleared out my mind. (and i almost gave away some of my clothes...)
That's what I was thinking while watching. It's hard to find examples you can resonate with when you're mixed. I'm asian european and I barely shared any of the features of the examples she showed
Okay so, I'm *not* perfect, but I did decide to see if I could find some examples of people I *think* could fall into each. If they're double-listed, then I think they have both. My method was looking at their features and impressions, but also doing it with a sense of "compared to people with these features" vs "compared to white people." I tried to find examples that were East Asian, Indigenous, and Pacific Islander as well as people who were mixed-race Dramatic - Lucy Liu; Quannah Chasinghorse; Maggie Q Gamine - Lucy Liu; Kelly Marie Tran; Auli'i Cravalho Natural - Melissa O'Neil; Naomi Scott; Maggie Q; Chloe Bennet Classic - Constance Wu; Gemma Chan; Naomi Scott; Kelsey Asbille; Romantic - Gemma Chan; Olivia Munn; Ingenue - Lily Gladstone; Sacheen Littlefeather; Lana Condor Angelic/Ethereal - Michelle Yeoh (tbh, to me, she's one of THE best examples for this essence *ever* that I can't even find another example)
I'm returning to this video after a girl at Bible study last night saw me put up my very long hair into a half-bun loop (samurai style) and immediately exclaimed in excitement that I looked like an elf from Lord of the Rings. I started to reconsider my conclusion of not having an ethereal essence, rewatched this video today, and suddenly realized ethereal describes me in so many ways. I had totally written off ethereal because I didn't want to think "too much of myself" (smh), but I realize now a lot of my features have that elongated S-curve. I definitely have some natural thrown in there, which threw me off the scent for a good while.
This video really helped, I definitely have Romantic essence as opposed to the others I previously was considering. A Soft Dramatic with Romantic essence, interesting
I would really appreciate if you could do a video on how to dress ethereal but casual. My ethereal essence is pretty dominant but it’s so hard to integrate in my daily style since I rarely ever wear wedding dresses 😄 So I would be really happy if you could show us more „muted down“ actually wearable examples ❤
Hearing about ethereal essence is so, so validating. I have always had such a complex relationship with femininity, at least, in the sense that I never felt comfortable in the sensual, romantic or youthful, girlish ways femininity is expressed. When you talked about ethereal essence being about a purity (or maybe another way, completely desexualized) it really struck a chord. I’ve always been told I have sort of a calm, neutral, desexualized sort of beauty, and I often find that people can’t really place me into the sensual or youthful categories. So this essence really gave me a place to land that I didn’t know existed. So thank you so much for this! Definitely feel drawn towards classic essence as well; less is more, with narrow, easy silhouettes is definitely where I look my best.
Romantic really spoke to me, I think I identify the most with that one. I love really glamorous looks and I have that kind of soft round face and bigish lips. I'm kind of obsessed with the old Hollywood look. I would dress like that everyday if I felt I had the motivation to keep up with that hair routine. Lol
omg. Right before you said ethereal and natural look good in a lot of the same sort of things, I was literally thinking about how I couldn't figure out which one of the two I am. Then you said ethereals look good in light colors, and light colors are usually the ones I receive the most compliments in. I've been trying to figure out what clothes to put my body in for the last, like, decade. And you just told me.
Thank you! This video was very insightful and now I can say my 3 essences are: natural (specially because of my body and coloration), classic and ethereal.
Love this video! Thank you for the content you make. You typed me as soft classic with gamine essence. I would love to see examples of different kibbe types with different essences and the outfits that suit them!
wooow this is so fascinating it was cool seeing you describe yourself as mostly a classic essense and then seeing all the photos next to your face. you look so similar to a lot of those classic type women, but i dont think i would have noticed it outside of this frame of reference
I certainly think i'm an ethereal! As well as a few others of course, but what you said about being natural really hit for me, I remember trying to wear a different jean jackets and it never quite looking right; As well as t-shirts make me look boxy and although they look fine, they dont add to my canvas! This was such a helpful video !!
I like the combination of Kitchener for face and Kibbe for body type. I have kinda different essences between my body structure and face, which has made it difficult to find out my Kibbe type (since the most famous Tests online have questions for your face too, and I always put mostly D and E answers for those). Basically my face and body look like they don't really match? When it comes to Kibbe I think I am a Flamboyant Natural. I'm tall and I have big bones (large shoulders, long wide arms and legs. I am also on the curvier side, with an hourglass figure, so it was difficult in the beginning to distinguish between FN and SD for myself). But my face has only Yin elements in it basically, I have small ears, smallish nose, small mouth with full lips, no defined/strong jaw line, soft/prominent cheeks etc... So if I were to look at my face only, I'd fit the Ingenue or the Classic essences, not the Natural one for example. I have a friend who I believe is a FN like me as well, yet her features also kinda match her body, as she has a Dramatic /Natural essence in her face too. Does anyone else relate to this too? 🤣👌🏻
So she’s made a romantic body + gamine face vid and she called that “goth fairy”. Inspired by that, I tried to think of what the natural body + ingenue face archetype/aesthetic might be, and came up with “the farmer’s daughter”. disregard if you don’t like it!
@@theveryfirstlostgirl I love this! Hahah I have actually been looking more into it, and realised that when it comes to my face, Ingenue isn't one of the essences. I believe my three essences are Classic, Natural, and Romantic.
I struggle so much with Kibbe types, but the moment I heard Ethereal, I was like BINGO! Thank you so much for these videos, they're very educational :)
I have a romantic body, gamine face, and dramatic essence. Lol! I guess the best way to describe the clothing style I’m naturally drawn to is “vampire queen”? I feel most comfortable wearing womanly/feminine but not very cutesy or glamorous things, more on the dark artistic side. I have an intense, somewhat “masculine” personality but cute youthful face
I think your video is going to be viral!😍 I still don‘t know exactly what my face type is. I would say, that I have big eyes, a relatively big nose, a small upperlip, but a big underlip. My mouth is very short though. I have a round face, but at my hair it’s like a heart shape. Maybe I can’t see me as some of the types, because of my body. I‘m very muscular, 1,69m height.
It’s so interesting to have a word that encapsulates my aesthetic and energy! x I’m absolutely gamine! although saying this, I’m very rounded and have elements of ingenue- but I’m very much a gamine, thank you for creating this video!
Omg thank you!!!!! I always gravitated the “romantic” and now I know why! Also “stylist” in the past when I modeled tried to make me a totally different type and looked so stupid. I almost felt like they wanted to take my beauty away in a sense lol. Thank you ☺️
Thank you so much for creating this channel! This is just what I've been looking for in all these fashion and how to dress youtube channels. Hope you have lots of success!!! ❤
I recently had an in-person consult with John Kitchener. My consult included both the PSC System of Color and Essence Harmonies. Mr. Kitchener is a trained artist with a very high level of color acuity, along with the education (and experience) to understand the technicalities of color. Mr. Kitchener is the opposite of a "formulaic" color consult. You are not placed in a "season" like HOC (4 season) or Sci/Art (12 season), etc. Not that there is anything wrong with those systems. But much of the benefit of your consult depends on the natural talent and training of the consultant. And, most people are typically a blend. Personally, I found a great deal of variation in the Sci/Art (12 season) community. (Don't get me started on the 16 season system.) The Essence Harmonies segment of my consult was also very informative. The most significant aspect of Mr. Kitchener's systems is that you are NEVER just one thing. He believes and argues that we are all blends of different essences, much like your personal coloring. This made a great deal of sense to me. I am happy to share more information regarding either of the two consults if anyone is interested.
Think I’m a soft natural with natural essence lol and I actually love the chic style but I look so uptight and unlike myself in it and now I know why! I’ve actually started to style my hair in big waves and wear things that actually fit my broad shoulders, have a cool texture and look overall a little messy
can you make one video that includes every face type and also another that includes every body type? that way we can figure out what face and body type with have easily without having to watch a ton of different videos? ❤️ i don’t know if you already have one or not i just started following the other day and haven’t been able to find it. much love x
Omg I was always stuck between dramatic & natural with kibbie... ethereal encapsulates me perfectly I literally look like / have the body type of a few of ur examples 😭 I feel so seen
Im kinda a mix of gamine and ingenue but leaning more on the gamine cuz almost all of my casual wear is boyish but also like feminine cute clothes. And my facial features match the gamine more too
Accurate af!! Grace Jones perfect example for the dramatic face yin/yang and Whoopi is the perfect example for natural face yin/yang. They dress EXACTLY as you described!! This is so interesting… love it🥰
Grace Jones is a dramatic like me as is Naomi Campbell and the Drag Queen Shea Coulee. However we can have big lips , When I was a child I hated being in this group as girls were supposed to be pretty and sweet and I had cheekbones and sneaky eyes And throughout my life I have been likened to a man or Drag Queen but I just love it now - because my face changes very little due to the strong ass bone structure. I aint complaining at ally. The irony is people have likened me to Cher, Grace Jones, Sophia Loren and Naomi Campbell. even though I dont look like any of them really - It is just my face stucture.
This is so helpful!! I had never heard of Kitchener. In the past, Kibbe just never fully clicked for me. Now I know why... I'm 100% an Ethereal! Yet, I don't own anything in ethereal style, I basically only wear natural style clothes. Time to go wedding dress shopping haha
Thank you for the video. I can't help but note that you dont look like a classic. You are such a strong Ingenue! When photo of Amanda Seyfried came up you looked like sisters! Round face,wide set eyes, large forehead,lush lips and light eyes!
I'd like to see this video with more examples of people who aren't thin and aren't conventional beauties. There were a few here and there but a lot were model like
I'm a romantic essence all the way. Ruffles, lace, flowy things all fit me. Especially velvets and silks and red. I have an oval face shape with high cheek bones and thick romantic curls. I've always been the romantic one and being a Libra it all makes sense. ♡
Based on this perhaps ingenue, romantic and maybe even a dash of natural for me. I am Kibbe romantic but the R here felt somewhat me but not completely and ingenue is what I was looking for
Hi! I love what you're doing with this channel😊 your content is really helping me undo the low self-esteem the fruit system caused me. Also you mentioned a new category in this video I have never heard of before (ingenue), this could explain why i could never find what i am, but i sound almost completely like those in the ingenue category, am glad to hear about it, this could be what i am. Love your content ❤
Hello everyone! If you want to know your essence, please head to www.bodyandstyle.com to view my consultations! Thank you so much for watching
Yes I need HELP. SOS.
@@Toni... *femme fatale
And yeah they can rock that look
1:10 1:11 1:27
Love these Ellie-Jean!
I love your content, thank you for your work!
When I see your face I think Ingenue and Ethereal, rather than classic, why is that?
it’s sad that in our current facetune and surgery obsessed culture, a lot of these natural features are being wiped out as everyone seeks to look the same.
I once met a cosmetic surgeon who told me - you face is probably the least desireable when people are really young but as people age it becomes the most desireable face they want. You have a gold standard face . So I find it odd wheen people that didnt have any cheeck bones or lips have features that were formally ugly or manly
i love this comment bc its so comforting for those with ethnic features that arent eurocentric
@@MsMrReason I think I know what you mean.
Growing up, I got made fun of because of my sharp jawline, high cheekbones, and large eyes. My mom has them & so do my grandmothers on both sides of my family. I’m Hispanic and it’s more common, but in the early 2000’s in the state I grew up in there was hardly any diversity at the time so it was “weird.”
It is better now, but at the same time I noticed that the same people contour their faces to resemble the same features they used to mock. So odd to me.
I just embraced my natural looks by the end of high school & would even highlight my high cheekbones and large eyes. I’m only in my mid 20’s so it wasn’t that long ago when people were still making fun of women and girls with high cheekbones, sharp jawlines, and large eyes..
@@kayv5840 frrr. now everyone wants thick arab eyebrows 😐
@@kayv5840 there's no way sharp jawlines were made fun of....
Honestly this video has convinced me to stop guessing and just get a consultation done. I think it can be rather difficult to see yourself accurately in the way that others do. I tend to see myself in segments but other people just see the whole. Your videos are light hearted and fun so they feel very approachable. Thank you.
That’s lovely to hear, I’m so glad you find my videos fun! ♥️♥️♥️
I recently had an in-person consult with John Kitchener. My consult included both the PSC System of Color and Essence Harmonies. Mr. Kitchener is a trained artist with a very high level of color acuity, along with the education (and experience) to understand the technicalities of color. Mr. Kitchener is the opposite of a "formulaic" color consult. You are not placed in a "season" like HOC (4 season) or Sci/Art (12 season), etc. Not that there is anything wrong with those systems. But much of the benefit of your consult depends on the natural talent and training of the consultant. And, most people are typically a blend. Personally, I found a great deal of variation in the Sci/Art (12 season) community. (Don't get me started on the 16 season system.) The Essence Harmonies segment of my consult was also very informative. The most significant aspect of Mr. Kitchener's systems is that you are NEVER just one thing. He believes and argues that we are all blends of different essences, much like your personal coloring. This made a great deal of sense to me. I am happy to share more information regarding either of the two consults if anyone is interested.
@@anyaamasova6607 What was the most valuable thing you learned?
@@wendyduncan9084 On the color side of the consult, I ended up with a very detailed binder of color samples all in fabric swatches. In a few weeks I will receive a smaller size sample booklet for shopping but, again, all in fabric. Mr. Kitchener explained that there is a significant difference in looking at color samples via fabric swatches versus printed color on paper. It is hard to imagine how many fabric samples Mr. Kitchener has in his drawers. All hand cut by him.
In Sci/Art I was first a Soft Autumn, then a True Winter, next a Dark Autumn? and lastly a Soft Summer. Soft Summer was reconfirmed and in the 80s the Color Me Beautiful consultant analyzed me as a Summer. I do have coolness in my undertones, but I am not cold. But, in some colors I can take a bit more warmth (slightly.) This nuance is not available in the formulaic systems.
And, in the Essence Consultation, nuance again plays a huge role. I could never figure out what Kibbe I was (either with the 13 class system of the newer 10 class version.) The reason; because I am blended. I am 5'7" and thin but not skinny. I am mostly Classic, but I have a good dose of Romantic (softness) and the same amount of Dramatic (vertical) or Soft Dramatic. I appear taller than I am. I also have a pinch of Natural in me (shoulders) but I would never dress like most Naturals, naturally. If I wear jeans, they will be dark wash, tailored and I will have a very feminine top on (classic and romantic) and beautiful shoes on my feet. The nuances of the blending just made total sense to me. Hope this helps!
@@anyaamasova6607 thank you so much. You seemed to have had a wonderful afternoon learning so many things. I agree about the way light interacts with color on fabric. Its very nuanced.
I appreciate the diversity in the pictures you show as examples.
I agree however 0 plus size/ curvy women were shown
That's a lie I saw 2 fat ones in there
@@fredlives9188 Wow, you are so pleasant 💅
Celebrities and models tend to have healthy diets, and time, money and access to fitness.. therefore overweight women are a minority when sourcing photos from that realm.
@@goooska33 fat isnt a bad word.
Me thinking “oh this is me” for every one 😂🌚
. Yes, me too!... expt dramatic 🙄
This makes so much more sense than the Kibbe System. Despite being tall for a woman (which excludes me from a lot of kibbe types), I am commonly complimented along the lines of being “adorable”, pretty, or graceful, which aligns so well between ingénue and ethereal!
I feel that! I’m 5’10 and I identify the most with the ingenue!
That's exactly me lol, I'm 5'11 but everyone says I have a cute face, my eyes are very sympathetic and my lips have a dramatic cupid arc, giving me a very 20's look
Kibbe's system is supposed to help you to understand your lines (bone structure + flesh) in order to find the best fabrics, cuts and shapes for clothes, jewelry, hair and accessories to enhance your natural beauty or to achieve a certain image. Sometimes, the facial features and the body structure are not exactly aligned, and those are the cases where the Kibbe system alone won't be enough to understand that particular beauty, so the concept of Essence will appear. The Essence is related to the "appearance" (yes, because not always what looks soft, tall, or short really are that, our eyes can be tricked by small details that changes our perception) of your shape - mostly your face :)
Depends, as an athletic girl 6ft, I was always told I was a “big girl” never really associated with anything ethereal or feminine 😅
I definitely relate! I’m 5’9 and if I were short I’d be a textbook romantic, but I love how Ingénue and Ethereal were described! Makes a lot of sense
since i was a teenager, I’ve always appreciated styling and how it can play up your sense of self. never have I had the words to explain exactly what you described in this video. I’ve always felt each individual gives off a certain “essence” as you describe and that the same thing doesn’t necessarily look good on everyone but that everyone can find something they look beautiful in. this is so FASCINATING
1:10 Dramatic
2:37 Natural
4:22 Gamine
6:06 Classic
7:15 Romantic
8:28 Ingenue
10:05 Ethereal
I enjoyed your video and the insights you provided
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Lol I’m a romantic and laughed that the time stamp 7/15 is my birthday lol
@@tula1433 wow how perfect is that 😃😆
I never felt like I fit any of these types, but once I heard about ingenue it all just clicked into place. I’ve naturally been gravitating to this style for years, and now I know why! Thank you!
i'm a pure romantic with romantic essence - thankyou for making me feel better about how i can dress my body now as i have always dressed very masculine - truly life changing advice x
Wow Giulia this made my day I am so glad that you have got such a positive result from my content, makes it all worth it!!!
i naturally fell into this essence the moment i gained confidence 3 years ago. i’m 23 now. it just makes sense
I realize now I also am pure romantic!! I struggled for so long with my feminine side and it really is a process for me to get to the point to embracing it ! Everything makes so much sense here, thank you for this video !!
and i’m a pure natural with natural essence. now it makes sense why i’ve always felt like myself in looser casual clothes.
You don't have to follow your type. I'm a flamboyant gamine, but I wear classic and natural lines. I hate colour blocking, and other FG recommended fashions.
Personally I like how she specified you don't HAVE to dress according to your essence or anything, because although I know that, I still don't feel like I fit in any of them alone, so it does reassure me when she says that.
This is so great to hear, and it’s so true - it’s just a tool you can use if you want to!
I’ve been thinking I’m a Classic essence but what really clicked was when you talked about how they shine in minimal outfits. I had a friend help me clean out my closet recently, and she kept suggesting outfits combos I could try that had a LOT going on. I didn’t have the words to explain why they didn’t appeal to me at all-but when I saw this video, it was like a bell ringing. Now it’s crystal clear. I wear more minimal outfits because I shine in them more. Thank you for that validation! I love how well you explain all these concepts.
As I was watching I was sitting there like “kind of? Definitely not. A little bit? Maybe?” And then got to classic and was like “oh that’s the one.” I still watched through the others and I was right. Classic is definitely my essence and I’m super here for it
(My Kibbe body type is flamboyant natural)
Would be super helpful to make part 2 , with practical tips for shopping clothes for every type. How some of the photos are only for evening look and others are only for a walk in the park, or office. Would be super cool to see the different types to translate to different occasions clothing
Seeing the ethereal essence really helped me place some of my features that I never understood in conjunction with my Kibbe type. Can we see some more with examples with different skin tones?
Wait this actually cleared up all my doubts. I used to dress in an ingenue or gamine sort of way and it would always look weird on me. It didn't quite fit me (personality wise or face wise) despite every website telling me I could rock it. Over the last few months, I have been dressing in a classical/romantic sort of way and I've never looked better. Thank you for this video :)
Tbh in the beginning I thought this is quite bs but then I matched these traits and features to most of the women I know and it made a lot of sense, also I’m pretty sure I’m romantic if this is unbiased of gender ;)
Nice video 👍🏻
For the Kibbe, I always get Dramatic. For Kitchener, I get Ethereal. The most Yin and Yang, haha. I've styled/dressed in these 2 ways my whole life without knowing about these style/essence categories! And they both work on me extremely well, so this was super interesting to learn. Thanks for breaking it down in a way that is easy to understand ❤
Just imagined the Types as Movie characters, because it‘s really fascinating how certain types are often chosen for the roles:
-Dramatic: Evil Queen/Wizard 🔮🌑
-Gamine: Adventurer 🌲🌋
-Natural: Witch 🚬🧪
-Romantic: Fairy 🌸🦋
-Etheral: Angel🌫🗻
-Classic: Princess 💍👗
Omg I love this!!
What would you assign to ingenue
@@isaespi14 pixie 🍃🪡
i think romantic is more mermaid than fairy but other than that 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
I love the fantasy themes. This comment has convinced me we need a DnD themed style system lol. Imagine how cool that would be!
I’m finally beginning to understand typing haha! My body type for sure fits the pure romantic but my face and essence are definitely a mix of ethereal and ingenue based on my features and how people see me! It makes sense because the styles for those types are what I’m most drawn to and what people say I look best in! Thank you so much for this video, it’s super helpful since typing can be confusing💖
This series has been so helpful! I’ve been able to determine that I’m a mix of classic and romantic essences and it has really helped me refine my wardrobe!
This video is detailed with so many pictures that I am seeing celebrity pictures through its lens, and understanding why the outfit works on the person. It’s my third time watching it. Thank you, I am learning a lot!
After much debate, I've come to see that I'm ethereal, classic, and romantic in essence. I struggled a lot in the kibbe system because I kept getting SD or DC and neither quite worked. I realized that ethereal is my missing piece. My elongation is far more ethereal than dramatic in nature.
I'm a mix of CLASSIC, GAMINE AND NATURAL. I don't stick to a particular type always, I'm more masculine in a way but 70% classic. I love feminine essence but I never saw "myself" in it, everyone else looks great in it and I admire all the women out there knowing what she needs! ❤️
I recently had an in-person consult with John Kitchener. My consult included both the PSC System of Color and Essence Harmonies. Mr. Kitchener is a trained artist with a very high level of color acuity, along with the education (and experience) to understand the technicalities of color. Mr. Kitchener is the opposite of a "formulaic" color consult. You are not placed in a "season" like HOC (4 season) or Sci/Art (12 season), etc. Not that there is anything wrong with those systems. But much of the benefit of your consult depends on the natural talent and training of the consultant. And, most people are typically a blend. Personally, I found a great deal of variation in the Sci/Art (12 season) community. (Don't get me started on the 16 season system.) The Essence Harmonies segment of my consult was also very informative. The most significant aspect of Mr. Kitchener's systems is that you are NEVER just one thing. He believes and argues that we are all blends of different essences, much like your personal coloring. This made a great deal of sense to me. I am happy to share more information regarding either of the two consults if anyone is interested.
@@anyaamasova6607 do you work for him? Because that giant paragraph you wrote is giving advertisement
@@Ri57490 No, I do not work for Mr. Kitchener.
Yes please ;) How many different essences is it normal to have? Do some have only 2 and others like 6?
Best description of John Kitchener’s Essences in a UA-cam video!! It’s about time people looked to his styling system rather than so much Kibbe. Thank you and how wonderful this video has so many views 😃🌸
Omg, I always thought I couldn't have ethereal essence, but from your description I actually could!!😭 thaaank youuuuu ellie!!!
I have been following Dressing Your Truth as a 1/4 in that system. I feel like in this one, I am ingenue with a secondary classic. Great video!
I’m very petite and young looking for my age and people would always say Gamine, but the way you described Classic essence I had an aha moment! This is exactly when I feel my best.
I'm a Flamboyant Gamine with Dramatic & Gamine essences! I'm so glad I'm already dressing in a flattering way to my body type. This is really cool!
That's so great! Thank you :)
I was always confused with the way I looked, some people would tell me I looked cute, and some, or even the same people would say I looked scary, and mean this made me so insecure until now when I realized that I have an ethereal type of beauty, and this was definitely a confidence booster
My face is definitely ingenue. I've always been told I look innocent and cute (even when I'm angry). And at 22 years old I still get mistaken for 17/18 at times. Especially if I'm wearing no or natural makeup. Not sure where my body type fits though as I do have broader hips and shoulders (like an hourglass but without the bigger bust) I like feminine clothes like flowers maxi dresses with fluttery sleeves with a detailed or (soft) colorful patterns or lace trims (mostly the summer). But I also like wearing simple clothes as just jeans and a cardigan. Although those soft colors look great on me like a soft pink and baby blue. So I feel like I definitely have that youthful feminine essence that suites me the best, but never childlike. I don't like the very childlike style and rather go for more simple styles for everyday wear.
looking 17 at 22 is pretty normal
I'm a fellow ingenue too! Do you think we suit the natural types of clothing? I don't really like wearing youthful girlish clothes and would rather wear a more timeless, conservative (longer sleeves and everything) clothes but Idk if it will make us looks like we try too hard and didn't match our own preferable style :(
@@kezyuck325 I think that natural clothes (more relaxed/bohemian) can look good as long as you keep your body shape in mind. For example, wearing completely loose fitting garments doesn't suit my body. It just makes me look bigger. So I always make sure there is some more fitted element. So maybe flowy pants with a more fitted top (doesn't mean skin tight) so I don't lose my shape. Or straight jeans with a simple t-shirt (tucked in) looks nice. Basically all the ways to give some waist definition. Maybe also look at how you can make use of lengths. So a high waisted pants/skirt with a shorter or tucked in top. Or a extra long flowy blouse with skinny jeans. Color wise look at what shades might work for you. I am quite pale with neutral to warm tones. So softer shades work better for me then very dramatic ones. Although i can get away with a lot because of my more neutral coloring. I for example love wearing more rust colored shades. I have a beautiful rust colored flowy maxi skirt that looks great on me (as i have those tones in my hair), but i would never go for mustard yellows or olive greens. Those all fit with more bohemian/earthy colors but not all work for me. I think it's really looking at how you can make that style work for your body and coloring. I am soft looking all over. I have no sharpness and I am quite pale (but neutral to warm toned). So fully natural styling doesn't work for me, so I take the elements of that style and make in work for myself. So I think it'd keeping in mind your essence, body type and style and try to combine that. My body type (apart from the softness) doesn't completely fit the ingenue type, so if your body does fit ingenue completely as well it might be harder for me to give you advice.
No offence but you're too young to be typed
Everyone thinks they're ingenue at 22 because they look young because they ARE
if you look the same aged 32 you might get a better idea of your real type
Remember kibbe says its not reliable under age 25
@@kezyuck325 ua-cam.com/users/DearlyBethany this is a youtube channel I really like all about styling tips. Very simply explained and to the point. Also someone who goed for timeless pieces and tends to keep coverage in mind for the people that find ot important
According to the kibbe types, I would be a dramatic body type, but it's never matched my face. This video cleared it up for me, thanks so much!
FYI, I have a long, elongated face with upwards angles that are not at all bold or dramatic, they're very soft and I get told I look timeless a lot, so I guess I'm an ethereal! I also just realised why long hair suits me, and braids are always my go-to!
You might be a soft dramatic then. I thinf if you are pretty thin, you could still be a soft dramatic taking your face into account. The length does add a yang aspect to your face, even if it is quite soft.
@@wanjahe8749 It's a good idea, but I'm not thin. I have an athletic body type despite being quite tall, and I've never been told I have soft features if that makes sense?
@@rubydoo3307 I think of the natural types as being the more athletic type bodies.
Same here! I found that I have a soft classic body type but my face fits more of the romantic essence than a classic face. My body is well proportioned with some roundness. My face on the other hand I don’t believe is very symmetrical. It fits more with the romantic essence.
Same here. A dramatic body type but with ethereal essence. I have some long subteley curved lines in body together with the length and sharpness 🤷♀️
My kibbe body type is dramatic classic but I definitely wear ingenue clothes. I've always been described as cute more than anything else and people think I'm wayyy younger than I am. I love the playful but girly ingenue clothes and that's just my style. I always wear pastels bcos they look the best on me, lace, bows and silk look pretty good on me too. But I try to follow a classic silhouette, keeping things minimum and a straight shape.
I fit into the Ingénue description as those are my features. But I dress and gravitate more towards Classic. I feel my personality matches classic because I like the clean and timeless look of it. Plus it’s probably cheaper in the long run because nothing in the Classic wardrobe will go out of fashion compared to Ingenue.
Yess, ingenue and classic does look a bit similar interms of face features
same here. my facial features align most closely to ingenue but my personality leans more into the classic essence, and i also tend to dress like that. honestly, i feel i'll look silly and not get taken seriously if i followed the girlish ingenue style.
I’m opposite of you! I fit the classic description, but look best in ingenue styling!
I'd say Audrey Hepburn is where those two meet, fashion-wise.
We're always a mix of different essences too, rarely just one. It is quite common to be a mix of 3-4 essences!
Learning these systems has helped so much 🙌🏻 I always wondered why I avoided prints and graphics (other than simple and subtle plaids) like the plague-turns out I have a classic essence! It’s so interesting how (generally) we naturally gravitate toward the styles that look better on us, and naturally avoid those that don’t. How we feel (and project to others) in different styles is the simplest indicator-we just know when there’s harmony. ✨ But putting a name to our individual patchwork of aesthetics is a game changer!
OMG! So glad this was in my rec. I don't fit into any Kibbe type, but I fit very well into the ethereal essence. I usually dress in vintage clothing but find it usually doesn't look great on me. I found this fairy-like white dress in a shop one day and it looks as if it were made for me! This is a better system than Kibbe because it doesn't restrict based on height and figure type.
I realized I'm a mix of classic and romantic, you described it in such a clarifying way. Thank u, this was very useful.
this and dear peachie are the only channel where i feel like i could finally understand what to do/to wear with my face & body
Kitchener essences are beneficial for finding a certain style within the known lines of a person's body type. But what the Kitchener system can't do is successfully categorized the different lines and combinations of lines. Kibbe is definitely dated and has a lot of inconsistencies. But for those who are into a more scientific approach of body typology, I suggest looking into the Dwyn Larson system. She used a very thorough approach to distinguish features, instead of the typical this looks sharp, this looks soft, we don't know what exactly this is so it must be classic, like I see with a lot of mainstream systems. For example a lot of tall sharp people with very youthful, ingenue faces would normally be categorized as dramatic in the Kibbe system and would never look harmonious in purely dramatic styles. But in the Larson system, this person would be a dramatic gamine with an ingenue essense, and their style would need to combine the angular and height of a dramatic with the details of a gamine, especially around the face. We see that the possible combinations of dramatic and gamine are endless. Sarah Jessica Parker for example is also a gamine dramatic (short but sharp angular features) in the Larson system although she looks very different from Sophia Loren, who is the same type (tall with big, bright, youthful features, people tend to think she's a soft dramatic because of her curves but in doing that her amazing gamine facial features get ignored), they just have different combinations of the same two types with differences essenses. Stereotyping does more harm than good for typing the unique combinations of features everyone possesses. Her research is amazing, I highly recommend looking into it.
I was having a really hard time figuring all this stuff out about myself, but I think my body type and essence are actually two different, which helps a lot, as I always get called things like sweetie, and am always complimented about how young I look, because people are usually surprised by my age. Thankfully though I have found my essence easier then thought, which is kinda funny because it matches one of my style roots as well. Though it was my eye doctor who straight up said I have nice large eyes for contacts.
My body is pure romantic and my face is soft and round, people always think I am 10+ years younger than I am and assume I am innocent or immature, but I have delicate facial features and small eyes that are easily overpowered. I can never figure out essences 😅
I would trust that overall effect you create which is that innocence, you probably have ingenue essence if this is the case, remember its not about having ALL of the features, but enough that it creates the impression :)
Always thought I was a romantic as I have an hourglass figure but since discovering I'm a soft natural through your videos I've found finding dresses and styles that suit and flatter my width SO MUCH EASIER. I'm also figuring I have ethereal essence as I tend to gravitate towards wavy braided hair and have soft and harsh features which I'm always trying to balance out....fascinating, helpful work as always
Soft and harsh features, yes! Absolutely also my experience. Hooray for ethereal essence!
I know it’s not malicious, but I really REALLY wish people could find words other then “ordinary” and “average” for Natural. It always comes across as if people are saying “among all these specials types, you are the designated not-actually-special.”
agreed! and it's telling that hardly anyone is identifying themselves as it, like who wants to be ordinary??
@@heyitzsamurai What I find so difficult with the way people talk about Natural essence is that, to me, it sounds so generic. At least with Kibbe you can look at the actual physicality of your features, your proportions and lines. But essence seems to be just "vibes." Dramatic is intense/commanding, classic is elegant, romantic is lush and alluring, gamine is energetic and spunky, and natural is...a human? A relaxed, vaguely athletic looking human??
I really am a mix of Classic and Ingenue. I have a small rounded face, but with some more masculinising elements like a sharper jaw line and heavier straight Greek nose. It's reflected in my style, with a greatly practical silhouette based on Edwardian fashion: I dress like that daily, 1900/1910s working style with a blouse and walking skirt, it creates a simple and crisps silhouette in which I tend to mix basic solid tones for the skirt and blouse... And then I put one of my haori, traditional Japanese vests, on top and everything becomes very animated and colourful and full of various seasonal patterns. I also set my hair in an Edwardian fashion but youthful, with volume at the top and the length either set in a bun or in an untied braid for the accidentally messy look that is in fact more elaborate and deliberate than it looks. I'm often told I give the impression of having jumped out of a book or an old picture, and my nickname at work is Mary Poppins. I used to think I was Gamine, and it is a style that suits me because of the mix of Classic and Ingenue, but this is more like a secondary style for me, now that I learned your definitions? Though coincidentally, the working outfit of the average Edwardian lady did use masculine elements to get the crisp silhouette, with added feminine elements on top like the hairdo and the lace inserts in the blouse.
I think this classification is more precise than the Kibbe type.
Is masculinising a word
I found out a Greek nose doesnt make a lady look masculine , but it symbolizes yang yes.
Tolerance and artistic way
It's the shape with most symmetry so like In the statues it makes you look very timeless classic. No worries. It's even cute on ladies so there.
First time for one of these videos that I felt that it all made sense and everything clicked. Once you started describing gamine essence it legit felt like you were describing me and I loved your video!! So informative yet so reassuring :)
This was such a good video! I wasn’t sure what to expect, I especially didn’t expect to be able to invision myself in an essence, I find my style sometimes confusing and contradicting 😅 but the natural essence completely described me! Masculine styles, casual and sporty, but also soft flowy and earthy. Even my facial features were described exactly! I love comfort and function so always reach for mens clothes, and have sometimes felt insecure that I’m not dressed up or feminine enough. This has helped me understand my style so much better and given me so much more confidence to continue in my own aesthetic!
Great video! Very interesting! I think I have a combination of natural classic ethereal. Would you do a video with combinations of the essences showing examples & outfits that might work?
That’s a great idea I love that!
I always had a lot of trouble finding out what fashion should I wear or what hairstyle should I have, I was basically born to be a gamine but I always had this little voice in my head (plus the pressure of some family members and friends) telling me that I'm not "feminine enough" and sometimes it pushes me to try other styles that I just simply do not feel comfortable with and end up in a crisis with myself and how I look in the mirror.
Usually I refuse to watch videos about fashion since I think they're mostly "limiting" but this one has helped me to understand better something about myself. Thank you.
Honestly, naturals are so slept on. It feels like everyone just describes us as plain and basic
And with weirdly shaped faces 😂
Honestly.
omg i am definitely a natural face type, and i’ve always felt drawn to, and prettiest in, vintage clothing and hair/makeup! and i’ve felt embarrassed by how simple and basic my wardrobe is, but now i know i’m just letting my face shine 😇
It’s crazy, I’m pretty sure I’m a cross between the dramatic and ethereal types. I’ve always been told that I look intimidating and also like I have a certain maturity and grace to me. Opposing sides of the spectrum. How interesting 😌
Thank you. I have now narrowed my style down to natural. It’s like a mixture of masculine and feminine style, which is exactly what I am going for. I even like the natural makeup look to go with the clothes. 😀
As many have suggested, you are ingenue with your light, wide set eyes which stand out, large forehead and overall youthful look. You've got to be honest with yourself and not simple choose what you want to be.
fr ! i see the trend continues in the comments.. i feel like natural had the least flattering description so you don’t see people identifying with it a lot
@@sophiasieczka asymmetrical face, average and friendly looking, of course nobody wants to be the 'plain jane' type
I also felt like a lot of people are saying they are ingenue just to look the most youthful, because that seems to be what’s starting to trend.
As someone actually ingenue (who’s 27 and gets mistaken for 13-15) I can say that the majority of you don’t look like that 🥲 and I’m not sure we’re all of a sudden all these people in the comments are claiming to. I personally see little people in person that look like myself and even online.
I’d personally kill to look a little more sharp. I feel I stick out like a sore thumb with my baby face and short height. It seriously embarrassed but I’ve learned to embrace is. It’s just annoying when you finally accept yourself when you’ve got bullied for years for looking a certain way and now everyone wants to look like that/gaslight themselves that they look so
now i get it! i have a pure classic body type and i automatically knew that i look good in minimal and timeless clothes. but looking at my closet, i also have puff sleeves, ruffles, flouncy dresses and other youthful feminine clothes and people kept complimenting me on how i look good wearing them. i have ingenue essence! thank you for this video, that cleared out my mind. (and i almost gave away some of my clothes...)
Please do this with Asian/Native American features. I am mixed, but it is hard to pick one based off the descriptions and examples given. Thank you!
That's what I was thinking while watching. It's hard to find examples you can resonate with when you're mixed. I'm asian european and I barely shared any of the features of the examples she showed
Half Spanish and half black I can’t tell what I am!
Okay so, I'm *not* perfect, but I did decide to see if I could find some examples of people I *think* could fall into each. If they're double-listed, then I think they have both. My method was looking at their features and impressions, but also doing it with a sense of "compared to people with these features" vs "compared to white people." I tried to find examples that were East Asian, Indigenous, and Pacific Islander as well as people who were mixed-race
Dramatic - Lucy Liu; Quannah Chasinghorse; Maggie Q
Gamine - Lucy Liu; Kelly Marie Tran; Auli'i Cravalho
Natural - Melissa O'Neil; Naomi Scott; Maggie Q; Chloe Bennet
Classic - Constance Wu; Gemma Chan; Naomi Scott; Kelsey Asbille;
Romantic - Gemma Chan; Olivia Munn;
Ingenue - Lily Gladstone; Sacheen Littlefeather; Lana Condor
Angelic/Ethereal - Michelle Yeoh (tbh, to me, she's one of THE best examples for this essence *ever* that I can't even find another example)
Robert, I 💯 agree with all your opinions about weddings. No need to make them be that big a deal. This invite let me know exactly what to expect 🙌🏻
You have such a beautiful way of describing each of the types! So happy I found your channel ❤️
I'm returning to this video after a girl at Bible study last night saw me put up my very long hair into a half-bun loop (samurai style) and immediately exclaimed in excitement that I looked like an elf from Lord of the Rings. I started to reconsider my conclusion of not having an ethereal essence, rewatched this video today, and suddenly realized ethereal describes me in so many ways. I had totally written off ethereal because I didn't want to think "too much of myself" (smh), but I realize now a lot of my features have that elongated S-curve. I definitely have some natural thrown in there, which threw me off the scent for a good while.
This video really helped, I definitely have Romantic essence as opposed to the others I previously was considering. A Soft Dramatic with Romantic essence, interesting
I think I have a mix of these except classic, romantic snd ingenue when its about face features, mostly natural, but my style is ethereal
This is so interesting. I would say my fave sounds more Ingenue but my body is definitely more romantic and I feel most myself dressing romantic.
I would really appreciate if you could do a video on how to dress ethereal but casual. My ethereal essence is pretty dominant but it’s so hard to integrate in my daily style since I rarely ever wear wedding dresses 😄
So I would be really happy if you could show us more „muted down“ actually wearable examples ❤
i'm pretty sure i'm a soft classic with an ingenue essence, everyone says i look younger and that i'm pretty in an adorable way
I love how you quote the theory and then give a DIY video. Why do these videos not have more views? They are stylish AND educational ....
Hearing about ethereal essence is so, so validating. I have always had such a complex relationship with femininity, at least, in the sense that I never felt comfortable in the sensual, romantic or youthful, girlish ways femininity is expressed. When you talked about ethereal essence being about a purity (or maybe another way, completely desexualized) it really struck a chord. I’ve always been told I have sort of a calm, neutral, desexualized sort of beauty, and I often find that people can’t really place me into the sensual or youthful categories. So this essence really gave me a place to land that I didn’t know existed. So thank you so much for this! Definitely feel drawn towards classic essence as well; less is more, with narrow, easy silhouettes is definitely where I look my best.
I just booked my package I’m stoked. This channel has more in depth and well-analyzed education than any other I’ve seen! Can’t wait to work with her
Romantic really spoke to me, I think I identify the most with that one. I love really glamorous looks and I have that kind of soft round face and bigish lips. I'm kind of obsessed with the old Hollywood look. I would dress like that everyday if I felt I had the motivation to keep up with that hair routine. Lol
omg. Right before you said ethereal and natural look good in a lot of the same sort of things, I was literally thinking about how I couldn't figure out which one of the two I am. Then you said ethereals look good in light colors, and light colors are usually the ones I receive the most compliments in. I've been trying to figure out what clothes to put my body in for the last, like, decade. And you just told me.
love that you have a diverse set of photographs!! really interesting video
Thank you! This video was very insightful and now I can say my 3 essences are: natural (specially because of my body and coloration), classic and ethereal.
Love this video! Thank you for the content you make. You typed me as soft classic with gamine essence. I would love to see examples of different kibbe types with different essences and the outfits that suit them!
Thank you so much for your continued support!
Thank you for this, now I understand why I'm draw to wear butterfly capes and fairy costume like clothing - I'm an ethereal! Always been an old soul!
Loving your channel ! I've loved to see a breakdown for different wedding dress style per body type.
wooow this is so fascinating it was cool seeing you describe yourself as mostly a classic essense and then seeing all the photos next to your face. you look so similar to a lot of those classic type women, but i dont think i would have noticed it outside of this frame of reference
this was so interesting!! and i love that i'm looking at a real human who isn't blurred to the gods, thanks for keeping it real! ❤️
I certainly think i'm an ethereal! As well as a few others of course, but what you said about being natural really hit for me, I remember trying to wear a different jean jackets and it never quite looking right; As well as t-shirts make me look boxy and although they look fine, they dont add to my canvas! This was such a helpful video !!
I like the combination of Kitchener for face and Kibbe for body type. I have kinda different essences between my body structure and face, which has made it difficult to find out my Kibbe type (since the most famous Tests online have questions for your face too, and I always put mostly D and E answers for those). Basically my face and body look like they don't really match? When it comes to Kibbe I think I am a Flamboyant Natural. I'm tall and I have big bones (large shoulders, long wide arms and legs. I am also on the curvier side, with an hourglass figure, so it was difficult in the beginning to distinguish between FN and SD for myself). But my face has only Yin elements in it basically, I have small ears, smallish nose, small mouth with full lips, no defined/strong jaw line, soft/prominent cheeks etc... So if I were to look at my face only, I'd fit the Ingenue or the Classic essences, not the Natural one for example. I have a friend who I believe is a FN like me as well, yet her features also kinda match her body, as she has a Dramatic /Natural essence in her face too.
Does anyone else relate to this too? 🤣👌🏻
So she’s made a romantic body + gamine face vid and she called that “goth fairy”. Inspired by that, I tried to think of what the natural body + ingenue face archetype/aesthetic might be, and came up with “the farmer’s daughter”. disregard if you don’t like it!
@@theveryfirstlostgirl I love this! Hahah
I have actually been looking more into it, and realised that when it comes to my face, Ingenue isn't one of the essences. I believe my three essences are Classic, Natural, and Romantic.
I struggle so much with Kibbe types, but the moment I heard Ethereal, I was like BINGO! Thank you so much for these videos, they're very educational :)
I have a romantic body, gamine face, and dramatic essence. Lol! I guess the best way to describe the clothing style I’m naturally drawn to is “vampire queen”? I feel most comfortable wearing womanly/feminine but not very cutesy or glamorous things, more on the dark artistic side. I have an intense, somewhat “masculine” personality but cute youthful face
Love it! Embrace it 😘
I think your video is going to be viral!😍
I still don‘t know exactly what my face type is. I would say, that I have big eyes, a relatively big nose, a small upperlip, but a big underlip. My mouth is very short though. I have a round face, but at my hair it’s like a heart shape. Maybe I can’t see me as some of the types, because of my body.
I‘m very muscular, 1,69m height.
It’s so interesting to have a word that encapsulates my aesthetic and energy! x I’m absolutely gamine! although saying this, I’m very rounded and have elements of ingenue- but I’m very much a gamine, thank you for creating this video!
Omg thank you!!!!! I always gravitated the “romantic” and now I know why! Also “stylist” in the past when I modeled tried to make me a totally different type and looked so stupid. I almost felt like they wanted to take my beauty away in a sense lol.
Thank you ☺️
Thank you so much for creating this channel! This is just what I've been looking for in all these fashion and how to dress youtube channels. Hope you have lots of success!!! ❤
That’s so lovely to hear!!! Aw I love that ☺️☺️☺️
I recently had an in-person consult with John Kitchener. My consult included both the PSC System of Color and Essence Harmonies. Mr. Kitchener is a trained artist with a very high level of color acuity, along with the education (and experience) to understand the technicalities of color. Mr. Kitchener is the opposite of a "formulaic" color consult. You are not placed in a "season" like HOC (4 season) or Sci/Art (12 season), etc. Not that there is anything wrong with those systems. But much of the benefit of your consult depends on the natural talent and training of the consultant. And, most people are typically a blend. Personally, I found a great deal of variation in the Sci/Art (12 season) community. (Don't get me started on the 16 season system.) The Essence Harmonies segment of my consult was also very informative. The most significant aspect of Mr. Kitchener's systems is that you are NEVER just one thing. He believes and argues that we are all blends of different essences, much like your personal coloring. This made a great deal of sense to me. I am happy to share more information regarding either of the two consults if anyone is interested.
Think I’m a soft natural with natural essence lol and I actually love the chic style but I look so uptight and unlike myself in it and now I know why! I’ve actually started to style my hair in big waves and wear things that actually fit my broad shoulders, have a cool texture and look overall a little messy
I don't know if this will influence how I dress, but I feel like this channel will help me in deciding how I should draw characters and their clothes
can you make one video that includes every face type and also another that includes every body type? that way we can figure out what face and body type with have easily without having to watch a ton of different videos? ❤️ i don’t know if you already have one or not i just started following the other day and haven’t been able to find it. much love x
Omg I was always stuck between dramatic & natural with kibbie... ethereal encapsulates me perfectly I literally look like / have the body type of a few of ur examples 😭 I feel so seen
Im kinda a mix of gamine and ingenue but leaning more on the gamine cuz almost all of my casual wear is boyish but also like feminine cute clothes. And my facial features match the gamine more too
same here!
i'm a flamboyant natural with a classic essence and a twinge of ethereal, these videos are so fun!
Accurate af!! Grace Jones perfect example for the dramatic face yin/yang and Whoopi is the perfect example for natural face yin/yang. They dress EXACTLY as you described!!
This is so interesting… love it🥰
Grace Jones is a dramatic like me as is Naomi Campbell and the Drag Queen Shea Coulee. However we can have big lips , When I was a child I hated being in this group as girls were supposed to be pretty and sweet and I had cheekbones and sneaky eyes And throughout my life I have been likened to a man or Drag Queen but I just love it now - because my face changes very little due to the strong ass bone structure. I aint complaining at ally. The irony is people have likened me to Cher, Grace Jones, Sophia Loren and Naomi Campbell. even though I dont look like any of them really - It is just my face stucture.
This is so helpful!! I had never heard of Kitchener. In the past, Kibbe just never fully clicked for me. Now I know why... I'm 100% an Ethereal! Yet, I don't own anything in ethereal style, I basically only wear natural style clothes. Time to go wedding dress shopping haha
Ok I feel like you’re an Ethereal! When you did that category you flowed seamlessly with all the examples
Yeah i thought ingenue, she has the cassy look from euphoria. I appreciate the classic but that seemed off for her.
I didn't know about this at all, and I recognized me very well in the "romantic archetype" as well as in the "engineer archetype". Thank you very much
Thank you for the video. I can't help but note that you dont look like a classic. You are such a strong Ingenue! When photo of Amanda Seyfried came up you looked like sisters! Round face,wide set eyes, large forehead,lush lips and light eyes!
I'd like to see this video with more examples of people who aren't thin and aren't conventional beauties. There were a few here and there but a lot were model like
I'm a romantic essence all the way. Ruffles, lace, flowy things all fit me. Especially velvets and silks and red. I have an oval face shape with high cheek bones and thick romantic curls. I've always been the romantic one and being a Libra it all makes sense. ♡
Yes I'm a libra and pure romantic too❤
omg I’m ethereal!! I’m so excited, that’s exactly the type of clothes I like *and* my face type 😍😍😍
Based on this perhaps ingenue, romantic and maybe even a dash of natural for me. I am Kibbe romantic but the R here felt somewhat me but not completely and ingenue is what I was looking for
Hi! I love what you're doing with this channel😊 your content is really helping me undo the low self-esteem the fruit system caused me.
Also you mentioned a new category in this video I have never heard of before (ingenue), this could explain why i could never find what i am, but i sound almost completely like those in the ingenue category, am glad to hear about it, this could be what i am.
Love your content ❤