Or if you're doing yard work/at the pool and don't want a housemate to lock you out of the front/backdoors Ang situation where you're not going to have your keys with you
I'm a professional locksmith, and have one RE agent client constantly asking for blind deadbolts which I hate doing for a few reasons. These are a MUCH more elegant solution. I just ordered 3. You made my life easier and my client happier with me.
@@snakes_shadow3539 it's a single aided deadbolt with a handle inside and on the outside it's door. Cutting only one side sucks. I don't like them because they weaken the door. These are a reversible no cut solution that does the same thing
The second design is definitely better. Inherently more flexible installation, it should be compatible with pretty much any deadbolt. The updated version of the previous design works, too, but it seems to be overthinking the solution.
@@DeviantOllam I don't care about the fire code, when I sell the house, they can put whatever they want on it. I probably would not see the point in any case, as I would have to be inside the house to use this. If I am in the house, what difference does it make if someone tries to get in?
@@johndoe-so2ef I don't think I understand your last sentence. Are you saying that when you're at home, it doesn't matter whether they get in or not? I personally don't like the idea of a home invasion, even if I believe I could defend myself if it came to that. I'd prefer if they didn't get in.
Heads up - don't be like me. After installing the Deadbolt Secure, actually test it from the outside with a key. I put them on my home several months ago, primarily to keep my toddler from letting themselves out, but also happy about the security function. Today my wife flipped it down accidentally while I was out, but my key pushed it out from behind the lock plate. I hadn't gotten it tight enough, my fault, install error, but I should have checked it long ago.
Hey there Naomi! As always, the US have their own standards for everything. I've never seen that kind of bolt with a handle in my country either, except maybe in hotels.
This new one - the Deadbolt Secure - is great. This is an intuitive and easy design. The only wish I have is it could be portable and not require disassembly of the lock, then you could bring it with you to certain hotels or AirBNB units that have deadbolts.
The portable version would be the velcro strap that was shown at the beginning of the previous video (and in an earlier one). ;) Your idea isn't bad, but I pondered it a little and I can't think of any method to attach such a thing securely that wouldn't also require messing with a door/lock you don't own.
Get yourself an inexpensive Blink mini cam like I did for that reason and upload to internet in case camera is damaged or stolen you still have audio visual proof even in complete darkness ;)
Man, that sucks. The thought of my landlord sneaking around inside my house while I'm out gives me the creeps. Thankfully it's never happened to me (as far as I'm aware) and is pretty unlikely in Australia, all states/territories have their own Civil & Administrative tribunals which typically benchslap dodgy landlords/agents pretty damn hard when a tenant's rights are infringed, and most landlords are quite aware of this. Perhaps you can get some remedy from a similar tribunal or regulatory body in your area (assuming you're able to put the time and effort into seeking such a remedy)?
Made something similar a lot of years ago out of cardboard. It friction fit between the lock and the door handle and has a cutout that just fit the lock lever.
Speaking as one of those maintenance guys, I always have the property management call the residents first. When entering, I pound on the door three times, thirty seconds apart each time. If there's no answer, I then knock again as I open the door while yelling 'Maintenance' at the top of my lungs. People still accuse me of not announcing myself. Also, not saying that maintenance guys don't do that. I've seen plenty not even knock because 'They know we're coming'. My only point is there're idiots on both sides of the door.
I have a smart lock that is programmed to only allow a key to be used during certain short windows of time. I have mine set for around the time I should be arriving home from work. All other times of the day, if anyone attempts to turn the lock from the key, either using a key or a pick, the smart lock motor will jam (very high gearing) to prevent the lock from turning. If you do manage to turn the lock, it will immediately relock the door. So the only way to unlock the deadbolt is through the secure app on my phone.
Blocking the deadbolt unlocked would have been amazing at the apartment I lived in years ago. The door would automatically lock when it was closed and I got locket out so many times, because I’m an idiot that always forgot about it.
the second one all the way....simple design, looks good and seems very effective and the real estate [for lack of a better term] doesn't get in the way and is exactly what's needed to do the job lol
Something to consider with V1 and v2 is that they seem to be more designed for something like a Kwikset or similar, which tend to have a more centered and shorter thumb turn. Most people don’t have a B560 on their house, so something to consider
It's a variation on the old term "stiction" (sticky friction), a mechanical failure mode that is typically overcome with a bit of good old Percussive Maintenance (with the exception of some particular models of HDD that used to suffer from this problem as they aged, in which case a short sharp shock is likely to make your day worse rather than better).
I work in construction and every crome/ brushed nickel/ silver finish I've seen ages horribly. Oil rubbed bronze rarely fades/ rusts. I've seen silver/ bushed nickel door handles completely tarnished/ rusty that less the. 5 years old
I found on deadbolts they sometimes have to turn past mounting screws. They are usually longer than they need to be. If you back out one screw a little bit to catch the turn you will not be able to turn the deadbolt even with the key from the outside. Or you can actually drill a hole and tap it and put screw in against the latch on the direction side it turns its impossible to unlock it from outside.
Please tell me that the emus stole your package and carried it over much of the Western Australia outback while fighting a war with those trying to get your package back.
In my experience a single self tapping screw into the body of the deadbolt handle put in up against the handle (when locked) works better, is cheaper and/or can be replaced with a thumb screw later.
Careful about the legality of that. In some places Fire codes require the key be inserted anytime anyone is inside and other places have banned these altogether. If someone needed to get out the door and couldn't because the key wasn't in place you would be legally responsible for that harm. Code violations like this can result in fines and range up to immediate condemnation of the property meaning everybody out right now. Living in bad neighborhoods I might make sure someone knows these exist, where to get them, and how to install them but I won't do it except on my own home. Business insurance does not cover illegal work and liabilities arising from it.
2:24 if it stops someone from turning it from the outside without the key, isn't that the real objective?. i understand that being able to stop it from turning at all might be an objective but if you are inside all you need is a small hole and a pin to insert. will it stop everything but a key turn? seems to be what i am thinking this type of device is for. does the device stop non key intrusion? because sometimes you want the key to to be the only way in.
"Someone couldn't accidentally lock the door, I guess, like a nimrod or something." Tell me you don't have kids without actually telling me you don't have kids. lol
Generally speaking, your deadbolt is what's providing the real locking security to your door on most US residential setups. So a deadbolt coupled with a passage function (i.e., non-locking on either side) knob or lever requires you to use your key to lock the deadbolt when you leave the house. And also importantly, this prevents you from locking yourself out if you just run outside for a second to grab the mail or get something out of your car.
Oh man, this triggers me a little... The rental I'm currently living in has both a deadlatch and a cheap lockable knob set on the kitchen door. The deadlatch hold-back mechanism is broken, and the tumbler/thumb-turn on the knob is also old and dodgy.... Doubles the chance of frustration! One afternoon of fucking about on a ladder to break into my own house through an unsecured window was enough to teach me that I should always keep my keys on me or jam the door open when stepping out into the backyard on a breezy day...
You mentioned that the FlipGuard version 2.0 is only available in the oiled bronze finish. That does appear to be the case based on the Amazon listings, but I recently ordered a different finish from the version 1 listing on Amazon and received a version 2 in the correct finish. I contacted the manufacturer and they confirmed that all FlipGuards currently shipping are version 2.0. They no longer make the first version.
Please correct me if I'm entirely off base, as you're the lock expert, but I was under the impression that a deadbolt was the thing that you could only lock/unlock from the inside. Thats the way my apartment is. Single sided lock on top (deadbolt), keyed lock on bottom.
Came here to ask about the potential for an under door attack. I assume the spring & bushing in the second device would make that harder, but it would be fun to see that attempted.
The other half is just to even it out, so your lock isn't screwed on at an angle, theoretically you don't need it, but without it you might bend the aluminum on your lock when screwing it in tight enough to hold
@@skylergarza8371 sure would bug the shit out of me, I can't stand seeing the results of someone else's half-arsed job... especially on something you're personally familiar with so you know that it doesn't actually take any time or extra effort to just do it properly. 🙄😆
Now, how about attacking it via whichever edge of the door you can manage? Maybe on a different door, because I suspect your personal doors aren't very vulnerable.
How does your giveaway list system work for changing addresses if we move? As a full-time RVer, my address is always changing. Or... Do you just send and email and ask where to send it if we win?
You're telling me that they rejected international mail to the point where they shipped it back to the sender? That's incredibly wasteful and dumb. Especially because anything shipped buy container would have had the virus die off just in the shipping time alone...
Uhhm viruses are never "alive, so they never die. There are scary stories from Egyptian tombs for that very reason. So ALSO for that reason there is no reason to reject international mail. We are sending viruses nationally nonstop.
@@suzannehartmann946 Encapsulated viruses, like SARS-CoV-2, become deactivated when the encapsulation is disrupted by dessication or through the action of solvents or detergents, etc. Active and deactivated are analogous to live and dead.
At least they shipped it back. Given the Aussies robustness when it comes to bringing stuff through their border, I'm surprised they didn't just destroy it.
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great to see a follow-up cuz I think solutions like this are super practical! on another note: have you considered making a video on how to actually talk to TSA, customs, etc? i'm a trans woman and i get hassled every time i travel internationally. i manage okay but some tips would be greatly appreciated!
It seems it would be easier to have a device that clamps onto the thumbturn, and then hooks itself over the door handle, with lots of adjustability. But I’m no enginerd, so I suspect there’s rather more to it than that!
That seems like it would be much more of a pain in the ass than the second product. I mean, just take off the knob and face plate, align block, reinstall...done. Flip on, flip off. It is neat, tidy, and out of the way when in use, and when not in use. Your idea requires a clamp that needs to be secured to an angled shape that varies by manufacturer, with an appendage that hooks onto a lever-style door handle. That has multiple adjustments, that could come loose over time, and is likely going to be in the way when not in use. Unless I am mistaken of your intention?
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Even if you could, barely, open the deadbolt with a key, wouldn't that defeat most picking by simply making it so that you'd break your tensioning implement? So not useful for the "anti-housekeeping" security, but still anti-picking security.
Can you use the key to start the turn, then use your traveler hook to work the bolt into the door once you've defeated the dead latch portion of travel?
Doubtful. The "dead latch" portion of the travel is basically an over center cam to prevent the bolt from being able to turn the cylinder. If you manage to turn the cylinder to it's no longer over center, pushing back the bolt will still attempt to turn the cylinder and that's being physically blocked.
@@johncochran8497 True..... Whoops lol. Could still probably use your hook to gain extra leverage if only a little to continue to move that stupid latch thing. Still think and over or under door attack is feasible.
Since you are into destructive modifications for the old flip lock, do you need both sides of the fork ? Just for fun, try dremeling off the lower fork arm. Yes, this is too late and un-necessary; however I hate to see hardware get the better of us.
Likes messing with locks and security, likes guns but responsibly, and gets his vaccines on time. See people? Not hard to be normal balanced human being that does things in normal doses and has healthy common sense.
Your OCD??? It wasn’t installed level…..! BTW, had my booster yesterday- nothing but a bit of tenderness at injection point for 12 hours. Thanks for sharing.
Hope your booster goes/went well. I got my third in September, and it had next to no side effects this time. Far cry from #1. Hope everyone is staying safe, and taking care.
It’s not a good idea because it may lock you out! Imagine when the flip drops down accidentally by itself from above the thumb turner after you lock the door, you cannot unlock your door with your own keys. The correct way to block the thumb turner to rotate around is to manage to install a latch (about $10) HORIZONTALLY beside the thumb turner (usually on the right side). You can block the thumb tuner MECHANICALLY when you’re inside or you think it necessary to do so during night time. This way can prevent the accident locking yourself out.
The second design would be easy to fortify against such attacks: Make the block a solid wedge, with some spring tension to keep it "locked" Most of the over/under attacks seem to rely on "hooking" the item in question, and then pulling it up, or down, or sliding it side to side. A simple, solid wedge, would not give such methods much to hook on to.
You mean a small child could not accidentally throw the dead bold on an adult outside doing lawn work? Who did not take the keys with because why would you?
The no-effort lighting kinda works! The fur-drape background gives a better sense of depth with an intensive side light. I wonder if these deadbolt blockers would work with regular thumbturns too.
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Locking it in the unlocked position might be good if you have children running around and don't want them to accidently lock the door.
Or if you're doing yard work/at the pool and don't want a housemate to lock you out of the front/backdoors
Ang situation where you're not going to have your keys with you
True story one time my dog, in excitement jumping at the door, locked my father out of the house with the deadbolt. So I can see how that might help!
I'm a professional locksmith, and have one RE agent client constantly asking for blind deadbolts which I hate doing for a few reasons. These are a MUCH more elegant solution. I just ordered 3. You made my life easier and my client happier with me.
Other than my wife being able to lock me out of the house I can't think of any reason not to use one. Why don't you like installing them?
Ok, so what exactly is a blind deadbolt, and which specific aspects of it make you hate it?
@@--_DJ_-- they're trickier to install when they're the Kwikset ones you have to bore only one side of the door.
@@snakes_shadow3539 it's a single aided deadbolt with a handle inside and on the outside it's door. Cutting only one side sucks. I don't like them because they weaken the door.
These are a reversible no cut solution that does the same thing
@@PaulHenning84 I can see that being a real pain trying to use a hole saw and then get the remaining plug out without destroying the area around it.
"Someone couldn't accidentally lock the door, like a nimrod or something..."
Finally, a security product perfectly tailored for me!
me, too. :-)
The second design is definitely better. Inherently more flexible installation, it should be compatible with pretty much any deadbolt.
The updated version of the previous design works, too, but it seems to be overthinking the solution.
I like the new unit, yeah
Since I use deadbolts that take a key from both sides, I don't see the point.
@@johndoe-so2ef you are likely overseas, then... Those aren't allowed by fire code in the USA
@@DeviantOllam I don't care about the fire code, when I sell the house, they can put whatever they want on it. I probably would not see the point in any case, as I would have to be inside the house to use this. If I am in the house, what difference does it make if someone tries to get in?
@@johndoe-so2ef I don't think I understand your last sentence. Are you saying that when you're at home, it doesn't matter whether they get in or not?
I personally don't like the idea of a home invasion, even if I believe I could defend myself if it came to that. I'd prefer if they didn't get in.
That dremmel comment is spot on. Best for making a stripped screw into a flathead.
Simple design but it looks so effective
Heads up - don't be like me. After installing the Deadbolt Secure, actually test it from the outside with a key. I put them on my home several months ago, primarily to keep my toddler from letting themselves out, but also happy about the security function. Today my wife flipped it down accidentally while I was out, but my key pushed it out from behind the lock plate. I hadn't gotten it tight enough, my fault, install error, but I should have checked it long ago.
The black and white infomercial aesthetic was solid
Totally stole that kind of thing from my friends at Modern Rogue / Whiskey Tribe when they have flashbacks to previous videos
@@DeviantOllam There's no shame in learning from your peers.They are good at what they do.
Nice! Now they need a version for the rest of the world😅
I feel like this applies to 70% of stuff sold in North America. Lol
Wishing you and yours all the best Naomi. Stay safe over there.
Hey there Naomi! As always, the US have their own standards for everything. I've never seen that kind of bolt with a handle in my country either, except maybe in hotels.
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@@FedoraSpunk guns arent allowed in Shenzhen
This new one - the Deadbolt Secure - is great. This is an intuitive and easy design. The only wish I have is it could be portable and not require disassembly of the lock, then you could bring it with you to certain hotels or AirBNB units that have deadbolts.
The portable version would be the velcro strap that was shown at the beginning of the previous video (and in an earlier one). ;)
Your idea isn't bad, but I pondered it a little and I can't think of any method to attach such a thing securely that wouldn't also require messing with a door/lock you don't own.
Ive been using a shoelace on my deadbolt to keep my unlawful landlord out!
I have imagined this part in my mind's eye... even using a latch bolt to block the deadbolt too :D
Get yourself an inexpensive Blink mini cam like I did for that reason and upload to internet in case camera is damaged or stolen you still have audio visual proof even in complete darkness ;)
Man, that sucks. The thought of my landlord sneaking around inside my house while I'm out gives me the creeps. Thankfully it's never happened to me (as far as I'm aware) and is pretty unlikely in Australia, all states/territories have their own Civil & Administrative tribunals which typically benchslap dodgy landlords/agents pretty damn hard when a tenant's rights are infringed, and most landlords are quite aware of this.
Perhaps you can get some remedy from a similar tribunal or regulatory body in your area (assuming you're able to put the time and effort into seeking such a remedy)?
I know here in Ohio I'm not allowed in my tenants residence without advance notice. Unless damage to the property is happening within reason.
Made something similar a lot of years ago out of cardboard. It friction fit between the lock and the door handle and has a cutout that just fit the lock lever.
Great to see one that works, thanks for the testing!
You're most welcome 👍
The split mounting ring (2:44) is presumably so that the deadbolt is mounted flush to the door for better longterm mechanical performance
This is great for apartments where maintenance knocks once then walks right in 🤦♂️
Speaking as one of those maintenance guys, I always have the property management call the residents first. When entering, I pound on the door three times, thirty seconds apart each time. If there's no answer, I then knock again as I open the door while yelling 'Maintenance' at the top of my lungs. People still accuse me of not announcing myself. Also, not saying that maintenance guys don't do that. I've seen plenty not even knock because 'They know we're coming'. My only point is there're idiots on both sides of the door.
@@Lreclusa you are one of the good guys for sure!
I have a smart lock that is programmed to only allow a key to be used during certain short windows of time. I have mine set for around the time I should be arriving home from work. All other times of the day, if anyone attempts to turn the lock from the key, either using a key or a pick, the smart lock motor will jam (very high gearing) to prevent the lock from turning. If you do manage to turn the lock, it will immediately relock the door. So the only way to unlock the deadbolt is through the secure app on my phone.
I love simple designs like that! I'm definitely getting one!
Blocking the deadbolt unlocked would have been amazing at the apartment I lived in years ago. The door would automatically lock when it was closed and I got locket out so many times, because I’m an idiot that always forgot about it.
No affiliate link?!?! Is this UA-cam? Am I lost?
All joking aside, much appreciation for the lack of shill.
DOOR FROM BEFORE is a great phrase.
the second one all the way....simple design, looks good and seems very effective and the real estate [for lack of a better term] doesn't get in the way and is exactly what's needed to do the job lol
"Just like simple designs."
I'm disappointed you skipped on the opportunity for "*dead* simple designs". xD
Error noted 😉
Finally xD
Oil rubbed bronze is often used with wood finished doors and stuff. UWSDWF from lp101 days.
Something to consider with V1 and v2 is that they seem to be more designed for something like a Kwikset or similar, which tend to have a more centered and shorter thumb turn. Most people don’t have a B560 on their house, so something to consider
I like the spring loaded design, that looks like the safest option. Less variables.
No effort November, reference acknowledge to said fine channel.
And he's already failed at it, again!
I love the term Sticktivity. Instant subscribe!
Ooh, I like that! And the silver matches my apartment hardware.
Word of the year: Sticktivity.
Clear case this guy ain't a boomer.
3:00 that was great!
It's a variation on the old term "stiction" (sticky friction), a mechanical failure mode that is typically overcome with a bit of good old Percussive Maintenance (with the exception of some particular models of HDD that used to suffer from this problem as they aged, in which case a short sharp shock is likely to make your day worse rather than better).
To be fair, he did also use the word "nimrod".
Now I'm going to end up looking for the second one... in oil rubbed bronze, because it fits in better with dark woods
"It looks better, it's brushed silver..."
You JUST called out the Boomers, and then went massively Gen X on yourself!
I work in construction and every crome/ brushed nickel/ silver finish I've seen ages horribly. Oil rubbed bronze rarely fades/ rusts. I've seen silver/ bushed nickel door handles completely tarnished/ rusty that less the. 5 years old
I have a screw that stops the deadbolt from turning. Have an impact gun handy for when I want to use that door.
The top/centre would even let you fit a strap from the hook lip of the device down to the knob, putting a lock lock lock on your lock lock
I found on deadbolts they sometimes have to turn past mounting screws. They are usually longer than they need to be. If you back out one screw a little bit to catch the turn you will not be able to turn the deadbolt even with the key from the outside. Or you can actually drill a hole and tap it and put screw in against the latch on the direction side it turns its impossible to unlock it from outside.
5:44 Oh boy. You should seen one of my post tracking. It was ridiculous. Even though it was in Australia.
Please tell me that the emus stole your package and carried it over much of the Western Australia outback while fighting a war with those trying to get your package back.
@@jayschafer1760 more likely to be Dingos. They have a reputation for stealing things that belong to humans (depending on who you believe).
Nice, simple and efficient.
Wouldn't the better solution to import a non-US lock (Australian lock?) from Lockwood/etc that will allow dead-locking?
Nice one -- glad you found a product that works for you. I wasn't aware of the Dead Bolt Secure, but I'll check it out.
Yeah I only found it because of an Amazon recommendation when I was searching for the Flip Guard 2.0
everyone loves that 26D finish
> Consider this my homage to No-Effort November on another fine UA-cam channel
Love that fine channel!
Technology Connections?
And ideas about a lock like this for a squared metalplate(that emcompass the handle too)? Like the ones here in europe
Several of your past conference talks have been my favorites for years, how did UA-cam never advertise you channel to me until today?
I was thinking of using one of those sliding bolt door locks to block the thumbturn. But that requires drilling more holes in the door.
"Someone couldn't accidentally lock the door like a nimrod"
*looks at toddler* Good idea...
"Where you goin'? NOWHERE!"
In my experience a single self tapping screw into the body of the deadbolt handle put in up against the handle (when locked) works better, is cheaper and/or can be replaced with a thumb screw later.
Goddammit, I'm on enough lists already
"Let me grab a key ... wait ... do I actually have a key for this lock?"
I have double cylinder locks on all my doors, but I really like this idea.
Careful about the legality of that. In some places Fire codes require the key be inserted anytime anyone is inside and other places have banned these altogether. If someone needed to get out the door and couldn't because the key wasn't in place you would be legally responsible for that harm. Code violations like this can result in fines and range up to immediate condemnation of the property meaning everybody out right now.
Living in bad neighborhoods I might make sure someone knows these exist, where to get them, and how to install them but I won't do it except on my own home. Business insurance does not cover illegal work and liabilities arising from it.
2:24 if it stops someone from turning it from the outside without the key, isn't that the real objective?. i understand that being able to stop it from turning at all might be an objective but if you are inside all you need is a small hole and a pin to insert. will it stop everything but a key turn? seems to be what i am thinking this type of device is for. does the device stop non key intrusion? because sometimes you want the key to to be the only way in.
Also of everything fails, put an upside down beer bottle behind the door to make some noise
A brilliant video. Love the ocd reference lol. Take it easy ✌
"Someone couldn't accidentally lock the door, I guess, like a nimrod or something." Tell me you don't have kids without actually telling me you don't have kids. lol
The first one is the best one
How come your lever door knob doesn't have a lock? I really like this new design you found, thanks.
It's pointless. Deadbolt and passage is the way to go.
Yeah, I much perfer going Deadbolt Only. Just my taste. (Never any question as to the state of the door)
Generally speaking, your deadbolt is what's providing the real locking security to your door on most US residential setups. So a deadbolt coupled with a passage function (i.e., non-locking on either side) knob or lever requires you to use your key to lock the deadbolt when you leave the house. And also importantly, this prevents you from locking yourself out if you just run outside for a second to grab the mail or get something out of your car.
Oh man, this triggers me a little...
The rental I'm currently living in has both a deadlatch and a cheap lockable knob set on the kitchen door. The deadlatch hold-back mechanism is broken, and the tumbler/thumb-turn on the knob is also old and dodgy.... Doubles the chance of frustration! One afternoon of fucking about on a ladder to break into my own house through an unsecured window was enough to teach me that I should always keep my keys on me or jam the door open when stepping out into the backyard on a breezy day...
Ha, mail going back to the US from Aus, had that happen to me also.
Thanks for sharing and promoting safety from the virus❣
You mentioned that the FlipGuard version 2.0 is only available in the oiled bronze finish. That does appear to be the case based on the Amazon listings, but I recently ordered a different finish from the version 1 listing on Amazon and received a version 2 in the correct finish. I contacted the manufacturer and they confirmed that all FlipGuards currently shipping are version 2.0. They no longer make the first version.
Please correct me if I'm entirely off base, as you're the lock expert, but I was under the impression that a deadbolt was the thing that you could only lock/unlock from the inside. Thats the way my apartment is. Single sided lock on top (deadbolt), keyed lock on bottom.
now to defeat it in an under the door attack
Came here to ask about the potential for an under door attack. I assume the spring & bushing in the second device would make that harder, but it would be fun to see that attempted.
Thier website has the brushed and polished brass, only amazon has the rubbed finish.
I have been able to mail two separate items to Australia in the last two months. The last one only took 16 days.
Great video once again!
I wonder if the second needs the full ring to clamp properly or if you could install just the half ring with the latch.
The other half is just to even it out, so your lock isn't screwed on at an angle, theoretically you don't need it, but without it you might bend the aluminum on your lock when screwing it in tight enough to hold
@@skylergarza8371 I hadn't thought of that.
@@TheInsaneTD yeah, and even if it doesn't bend, it's going to be at a slight angle and that might bug some people
@@skylergarza8371 sure would bug the shit out of me, I can't stand seeing the results of someone else's half-arsed job... especially on something you're personally familiar with so you know that it doesn't actually take any time or extra effort to just do it properly. 🙄😆
Now, how about attacking it via whichever edge of the door you can manage? Maybe on a different door, because I suspect your personal doors aren't very vulnerable.
This would be interesting to see.
USPS won't post to Australia atm. But the stupid thing is I can still post to the USA from Australia. Doesn't make sense. Cheers.
Yeah I hope it all gets squared away soon
@@DeviantOllam same here as I'm waiting on lots of gear from the US.
Always good to find another Aus locksport channel, cheers mate!
Much better!
How does your giveaway list system work for changing addresses if we move? As a full-time RVer, my address is always changing. Or... Do you just send and email and ask where to send it if we win?
You're telling me that they rejected international mail to the point where they shipped it back to the sender? That's incredibly wasteful and dumb. Especially because anything shipped buy container would have had the virus die off just in the shipping time alone...
Yep
Uhhm viruses are never "alive, so they never die. There are scary stories from Egyptian tombs for that very reason. So ALSO for that reason there is no reason to reject international mail. We are sending viruses nationally nonstop.
@@suzannehartmann946 Encapsulated viruses, like SARS-CoV-2, become deactivated when the encapsulation is disrupted by dessication or through the action of solvents or detergents, etc. Active and deactivated are analogous to live and dead.
At least they shipped it back. Given the Aussies robustness when it comes to bringing stuff through their border, I'm surprised they didn't just destroy it.
Sounds like that’s really upside down. (Australia)
would drilling the lock and pulling the cylinder out still bypass this?
if the cylinder is totally gone then there's nothing interacting with the thumbturn on the tail side
@@DeviantOllam gotcha, I just thought of that because it seems like a fairly common tactic is to drill deadbolts unless they’re skilled at lockpicking
@@landonmaurer2453 not wrong
The second one is definitely as better and simpler design
second version is lots better!!! thanks for showing
Lol 😂 still not bloody straight to 👌my brother 😉but I think we all get were you was coming from? 😯n keep up ☝all your good and hard work to 👌God bless you all 🙏
great to see a follow-up cuz I think solutions like this are super practical! on another note: have you considered making a video on how to actually talk to TSA, customs, etc? i'm a trans woman and i get hassled every time i travel internationally. i manage okay but some tips would be greatly appreciated!
It seems it would be easier to have a device that clamps onto the thumbturn, and then hooks itself over the door handle, with lots of adjustability. But I’m no enginerd, so I suspect there’s rather more to it than that!
That seems like it would be much more of a pain in the ass than the second product.
I mean, just take off the knob and face plate, align block, reinstall...done. Flip on, flip off. It is neat, tidy, and out of the way when in use, and when not in use.
Your idea requires a clamp that needs to be secured to an angled shape that varies by manufacturer, with an appendage that hooks onto a lever-style door handle. That has multiple adjustments, that could come loose over time, and is likely going to be in the way when not in use.
Unless I am mistaken of your intention?
I am haunted by longthumb.
Bought a set of $1 door stops over ten years ago. Just wedge one in the deadbolt and it's not going anywhere.
i alwys feel like your gonna pull out an adult toy with respect to the background material haha no hard feelers just always throws me.
Funny how the bronze colored locks and handles at times have antimicrobial properties
Tried to sign up but verification link was expired only seconds later. It said try again but trying again did jot reasult in another email, so I think I am signed up. I might have accidently refreshed when I went to zoom to read the text.
Even if you could, barely, open the deadbolt with a key, wouldn't that defeat most picking by simply making it so that you'd break your tensioning implement? So not useful for the "anti-housekeeping" security, but still anti-picking security.
New subscriber here came across the channel found it interesting
Can you use the key to start the turn, then use your traveler hook to work the bolt into the door once you've defeated the dead latch portion of travel?
Doubtful. The "dead latch" portion of the travel is basically an over center cam to prevent the bolt from being able to turn the cylinder. If you manage to turn the cylinder to it's no longer over center, pushing back the bolt will still attempt to turn the cylinder and that's being physically blocked.
@@johncochran8497 True..... Whoops lol. Could still probably use your hook to gain extra leverage if only a little to continue to move that stupid latch thing. Still think and over or under door attack is feasible.
Since you are into destructive modifications for the old flip lock, do you need both sides of the fork ? Just for fun, try dremeling off the lower fork arm.
Yes, this is too late and un-necessary; however I hate to see hardware get the better of us.
When I click the activation link it just goes to a page that says the link is already expired.
I wonder if LockPickingLawyer has come across this product? He's pretty good at lockpicking, how does one send him a UA-cam link?
Likes messing with locks and security, likes guns but responsibly, and gets his vaccines on time. See people? Not hard to be normal balanced human being that does things in normal doses and has healthy common sense.
A genuine sheeple!
How do you know he gets his vaccines on time? He only mentioned covaids shots. Project much?
@@logmeindog imagine a vaccine so good, you have to keep getting injected with it and still can catch the same damn thing as everyone else lol.
... They already have this. It's called the flu shot. Viruses that are very prevalent and mutate quickly tend to need new vaccinations regularly.
Your OCD??? It wasn’t installed level…..! BTW, had my booster yesterday- nothing but a bit of tenderness at injection point for 12 hours. Thanks for sharing.
Why not get a decent lock in the first place?
Not everyone is in such a position. If you live in a rental unit, there might be some clause that prevents you from installing your own lock/deadbolt.
I JUST BACK ONE OF THE SCREWS OUT
STOPS THE LEVER IMMEDIATELY
EASY PEASY
Hope your booster goes/went well. I got my third in September, and it had next to no side effects this time. Far cry from #1.
Hope everyone is staying safe, and taking care.
It’s not a good idea because it may lock you out!
Imagine when the flip drops down accidentally by itself from above the thumb turner after you lock the door, you cannot unlock your door with your own keys.
The correct way to block the thumb turner to rotate around is to manage to install a latch (about $10) HORIZONTALLY beside the thumb turner (usually on the right side).
You can block the thumb tuner MECHANICALLY when you’re inside or you think it necessary to do so during night time. This way can prevent the accident locking yourself out.
With those who have toddlers, be highly cautious about using these! They're little shits and will really lock you out, if they use that! 🤣🤣
It should not be a problem unless the toddlers are locked alone inside the house.
@@mrfrenzy. They tend to like to do that when you go out to take the trash to the curb (ask me how I know 🤣🤣🤣)
You should look at master lock nightwatch
Locks are shit. But if you can match the inside lever with a lock. Well worth it.
give away should of been a device to defeat it.....lol
Also, looks like and under or over door tool could pretty easily bypass that.
The second design would be easy to fortify against such attacks:
Make the block a solid wedge, with some spring tension to keep it "locked" Most of the over/under attacks seem to rely on "hooking" the item in question, and then pulling it up, or down, or sliding it side to side. A simple, solid wedge, would not give such methods much to hook on to.
You mean a small child could not accidentally throw the dead bold on an adult outside doing lawn work? Who did not take the keys with because why would you?
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Can of spray paint can change the look easily if it actually works...
The no-effort lighting kinda works! The fur-drape background gives a better sense of depth with an intensive side light.
I wonder if these deadbolt blockers would work with regular thumbturns too.