Who Really Opened the Drapes for the Hit on Michael?

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  • @MoviesConsigliere
    @MoviesConsigliere  Рік тому +5

    I'm anticipating some comments in the video. Yes, I left the question unanswered on purpose because I want your answers. It's the question that I've always wanted to address. Here are my final thoughts "In conclusion, I was certain that it was Fredo, but now it’s 50/50 because if we believe that it was him who drew the drapes, this means all the scenes where we felt that he was sincere lose their value, meaning that his last words were lies? That’s why I’m not 100% sure anymore, but if we believe that it wasn’t him, this means that this scene in particular loses its value because it’s either inaccurate or hardly believable that someone else did it."

    • @logicalchaos9008
      @logicalchaos9008 Рік тому +2

      It's Rocco. Why else would Michael send such a valuable man on a suicide mission?

    • @MoviesConsigliere
      @MoviesConsigliere  Рік тому +1

      @@logicalchaos9008 That's what i'm thinking too

  • @LoveAllTrustNone
    @LoveAllTrustNone Рік тому +26

    I always assumed that it was Rocco. I drew that conclusion when he agreed to go on that suicide mission to kill Roth. A self sacrifice for betraying the family.

    • @MoviesConsigliere
      @MoviesConsigliere  Рік тому +7

      My opinion is that Rocco's being the inside man makes more sense, because Michael sent him to his death, It's more like “Kill two birds with one stone”.

    • @LoveAllTrustNone
      @LoveAllTrustNone Рік тому +1

      @@MoviesConsigliere exactly. it's the only theory that makes sense.

    • @dripperdaflyest9632
      @dripperdaflyest9632 Рік тому +1

      Rocco had no choice

    • @TeddyKGB12
      @TeddyKGB12 Рік тому +3

      I don't think it was Rocco. Look at it this way, if Rocco had betrayed Michael, would Michael trust him to take out Roth? I doubt it. Besides, in the early scripts to The Godfather Part 3, Rocco didn't die after taking out Roth, he ended up going back and being in Michael's caporegime. There's NO way Michael would allow that if he knew Rocco had betrayed him.

    • @gbp56h14
      @gbp56h14 2 місяці тому

      Fredo of course, my question is who killed the two hit men...Fredo 😢

  • @R.to-the.A
    @R.to-the.A Рік тому +27

    I am believing more and more that Fredo KNEW exactly what he was doing and he intended it. Especially with all the red flags and verbal hints he gives in the Cuba conversation "Why didn't we spend time like this before, Mike?" Or "I'm your older brother, and i got stepped over!" He knew it was gonna be a hit and he didn't feel bad at first, since he felt disrespected and embarrassed by Michael, and the whole Mike treating him like a child in the Moe Greene scene. I think Fredo is a lot more devious than we might think. He's no Michael but he's a Corleone. The whole Deanna thing might have been part of the distraction. Fredo, Deanna and Rocco. How about if Fredo is hiding it in plain sight "I'm smart, not dumb, like everybody says!!"? Almost like he's telling Michael "I almost got you, how dumb can I be?" Maybe a stretch, but I can tell you from experience, people will often confess, warn or threaten you in those subtle ways. Once again, showing how much "smarter" they are than you or as some form of catharsis for their guilt, a rationalized "kind of a" confession or even mockery. Depending on the scenario. I don't know, just saying. Resentment like that runs DEEP!

  • @yogisie
    @yogisie Рік тому +16

    That look Kay gives Michael after the shooting…”Is this what you call ‘going legit’?”

    • @BaronSaturday66
      @BaronSaturday66 Рік тому

      That look says I'm gonna abort your kid for this.

    • @davidpitchford6510
      @davidpitchford6510 Рік тому +3

      Poor Kay. She married a mob boss and enjoyed the life of a wife of a mob boss.

  • @travisgames6608
    @travisgames6608 Рік тому +11

    Well Fredo said in the phone call that the hitmen were supposed to "scare Michael". Which means he had to know about the window thing; however, the death of the hitmen had to come from the getaway guys.
    I say getaway guys, because there's no way to sneak in and out of there without a getaway plan. Fredo knew the security routes and most likely knew a blind spot in them. They set up a meeting with the second half of their team and that's when their throats were slit. One guy couldn't have gotten the drop on two assassins that are together. So the theory is that there were four guys that went in and only two made it out to tell Roth.
    I agree with Michael on his people. Al is Michael's Luca, his loyalty is unquestioned. Michael made Rocco a secret Capo back in Part 1, and had him build a new regime in the shadows to prep for the assassination of the 4 Dons. Neither of them would benefit from killing Michael. The Corleone interest in Vegas wasn't as criminal oriented as their NY operations. Would they do it for the money or power? I doubt it. They were most likely making more money than Clamenza or Tessio ever did, they were probably making more than Frank and he was an Underboss. Power? I also doubt it. Their interests in Vegas was strictly financial investment and control of a casino or two.
    They went with Michael willingly and knew the end goal for the Family and themselves was a legitimate life. There'd be more money in that than there was with their current one, plus less stress of life or death situations. Either of them betraying Michael was a long shot.

    • @freebee8221
      @freebee8221 Місяць тому

      It was probably just the maid, who was forced to do it

  • @TheWanderer03
    @TheWanderer03 Рік тому +15

    "In my HOME! IN MY BEDROOM WHERE MY WIFE SLEEPS! Where my children come and play with their toys. In my home"

    • @DonRamiro1
      @DonRamiro1 Рік тому +2

      I never understood why Michael went off on Pentangeli like that. Frankie had nothing to do with it.

    • @TheWanderer03
      @TheWanderer03 Рік тому +2

      @@DonRamiro1 Oh, actually Michael did not try to kill Frank Pentangeli, it was Rosatto Brothers who had the orders from Hyman Roth. Hyman Roth wanted revenge for the assassination of his protege Moe Green, and wanted to get rid of his biggest competitor, or 'partner' as he called it.

    • @robertbusek30
      @robertbusek30 Рік тому +1

      @@DonRamiro1I don’t think Michael knew that for certain at the time. Sure, he suspected that Roth was his main enemy, but that assassination attempt might not be connected with the Cuba deal at all, especially given Pentangeli being angry at him earlier in the evening. Michael’s feeling out Pentangeli here, watching how he reacts to his “loss of temper,” a rare occurrence indeed. He wants to know if Pentangeli is another “problem” that needs to be handled.

    • @TeddyKGB12
      @TeddyKGB12 Рік тому

      @@robertbusek30 You're correct, Michael was figuring out who was responsible, and wanted to see each man's reaction when pressed about the issue. How they reacted would tell Michael all he needed to know.

  • @skydiverclassc2031
    @skydiverclassc2031 Рік тому +5

    Whoever did it, I respect their skill at being able to open a bedroom door, sneak in while someone is sleeping there, move two sets of curtains back, and sneak back out, all without anyone in the house happening by to notice.

  • @joseyeastwood
    @joseyeastwood Рік тому +3

    It was somebody who was obviously comfortable walking into the bedroom without fear of being caught and not causing suspicion which only three people come to mind Fredo which i highly doubt Rocco or Al we will never know the answer to that question.

  • @arrow1414
    @arrow1414 Рік тому +7

    Hell, at one time Vito Coleone's men had to sneak into Jack Wolt's stables; silently kill his prized uber valuable stallion and severe his head. Then sneak it into Wolt's mansion; know which one of the several bedrooms he sleep in regularly and sneak in while he slept. Then sneak the head into the bed, under the silk sheets at Wolt's feet without disturbing him; all without leaving a blood trail to or from the bed and sneak out again!
    In comparison sneaking into a bedroom as a woman slepted; silently open the curtains and sneaking back out is child's play!
    And of course even easier, they can drug a racist Senator, brutally kill the prostitute he was with then wait for him to wake up and panic is nothing!

  • @Captain-Donut
    @Captain-Donut Рік тому +3

    What great channel find
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  • @merkury06
    @merkury06 3 місяці тому +3

    I've thought for some time, that Rocco and Fredo's wife pulled this off. I think only a woman could have risked going into Kays bedroom, if seen she could have dropped any excuse, a man no way.
    2nd. If Neri wasn't the inside threat, that leaves Rocco. He was head of compound security btw.
    Finally, i think he was piping Fredo's wife, because Fredo certainly wasn't eg. Rocco carrying her off drunk at the dinner.
    There is no way Roth would counted an Fredo to pull off the hit and both hitmen had their throats cut, no doubt by people thy trusted. Rocco.

  • @lastpme
    @lastpme 9 місяців тому +2

    Connie…she still hated her brother at the start of the movie and that was shown at the movie.

  • @rubenoteiza9261
    @rubenoteiza9261 20 днів тому +1

    Who opened the curtains...? The same guy who put the bomp in the bop shoo bop.

  • @tonytoes0
    @tonytoes0 Рік тому +3

    Bugsy Siegel was killed at his mistress' house.

  • @TeddyKGB12
    @TeddyKGB12 Рік тому +1

    I don't think it was Rocco. Look at it this way, if Rocco had betrayed Michael, would Michael trust him to take out Roth? I doubt it. Besides, in the early scripts to The Godfather Part 3, Rocco didn't die after taking out Roth, he ended up going back and being in Michael's caporegime. There's NO way Michael would allow that if he knew Rocco had betrayed him.

  • @benderbendingrofriguez3300
    @benderbendingrofriguez3300 Рік тому +2

    Movie Consigliere : "...even today it's almost never done, not at at the target's home and not in front of his family..."
    ever heard about Nicolo Rizzuto and how he was killed back in November 10, 2010 ?

  • @tonymacaluso1265
    @tonymacaluso1265 Рік тому +4

    I think it was Rocco he wanted to make sure Hyman Roth was dead just in case he had a slip of the tongue and it was Rocco that killed the two assassins think about it Rocko went into the bedroom opened up the drapes well Michael wife was sleeping and then he killed the two assassins so they can talk either

    • @robertbusek30
      @robertbusek30 Рік тому +2

      Maybe, but as I noted above, Rocco made his bones by whacking Paulie. If anyone knows what happens when you betray the Don, it’s him. That’s why I’m not buying Rocco as the traitor.

    • @TeddyKGB12
      @TeddyKGB12 Рік тому +2

      @@robertbusek30 I don't think it was Rocco either. Look at it this way, if Rocco had betrayed Michael, would Michael trust him to take out Roth? I doubt it. Besides, in the early scripts to The Godfather Part 3, Rocco didn't die after taking out Roth, he ended up going back and being in Michael's caporegime. There's NO way Michael would allow that if he knew Rocco had betrayed him.

    • @gbp56h14
      @gbp56h14 2 місяці тому

      It was Fredo...

  • @riszser
    @riszser Рік тому +6

    You have the bedroom hit in the wrong time line. You said Michael wasn’t even home. Wrong. This was after the big party in the beginning of the movie. He was home the whole day.

    • @glennhenson6495
      @glennhenson6495 8 днів тому

      And mentions of the curtains providing the light but the ight by the bed is on.

  • @pulsarstargrave256
    @pulsarstargrave256 5 місяців тому +2

    I don't think it would have been hard for Roth or Johnny Ola to get to a maid or plant a maid in the Corleone House .

  • @frankpalancio8471
    @frankpalancio8471 4 місяці тому +2

    Definitely Rocco. Why else would he take the suicide mission later?

  • @TheGr8-1
    @TheGr8-1 Рік тому +2

    ‘White women use poison’ 😂😂😂 this dude is hilarious.

  • @arturoalmazan5262
    @arturoalmazan5262 Рік тому +2

    I suspect it was fredo. he was so envious of Michael. maybe he hired a hitman. this seems the logical reason in my opinion

  • @johnlane5704
    @johnlane5704 Рік тому

    It's an unsolved mystery we have so many but a close look at the suspects who really knows who actually open the drapes? All you mentioned could have a motive but at the same time, we should ask who has the best advantage of having Michael taken out?

  • @sola11zt
    @sola11zt Рік тому

    Anthony pulled the drapes, tricked by Fredo because Fredo and Anthony got along well. He told the boy that his father would better see the drawing. Rocky k ew of the conspiracy and promised Fredo that he would not resist if the assassins killed Michael and Fredo became the Don.

    • @_unforgiven
      @_unforgiven Рік тому

      Watch the most detailed analysis of the Godfather on my channel!

  • @sergantcaulfield5805
    @sergantcaulfield5805 2 місяці тому +1

    Fredo open the drapes. When he claim he was told it was going to be a kidnapping he informed them how toget to Mike bedroom .Possible how to enter the compound without being notice. And how did the intruders know how to escape through freedom room.

  • @1coldalpha
    @1coldalpha Місяць тому

    Fredo was stupid enough to get duped into opening the drapes. It would’ve been easy to tell him some lie to get him to open the drapes. Fredo isn’t the type to think there would be an assassination on the compound

  • @eddieschwab864
    @eddieschwab864 3 місяці тому

    It should be clear to anybody the one that opened the drapes is the same one that took out Roth in the end getting killed in the process, and that's Rocco Lampone, the same fellow who Clemenza brought on at the beginning of the first movie to take out Paulie. That's why Michael had Rocco to kill Roth might have been executed as a traitor in front of Tom Hagen if he refused...

  • @someguy6212
    @someguy6212 4 місяці тому

    Makes no sense, the boss' bedroom should always be on the 2nd floor.

  • @Silly81
    @Silly81 Рік тому +1

    Let me just say that I love this video, I always questioned this scenario and the possibilities of who were the suspects. Hell I even came to the conclusion that it was indeed Rocco at one time.
    However I now disagree that it was Rocco because it would’ve been giving credence to Michael’s overall paranoia at the end of the movie. If not paranoia, disappointment and resentment of Rocco for failure in both protecting him and his family plus not keeping the assassins alive sending him off on a suicide mission.
    Who do I think was responsible? It’s not rocket science, the answer was very simple, it was Johnny Ola with a little assistance from Fredo. Fredo obviously gave Ola the layout of the estate. As far as who physically opened the drapes, my theory is that it was either one of the assassins or a “maid” planted on the estate by Ola.

    • @TeddyKGB12
      @TeddyKGB12 Рік тому

      I don't think it was Rocco either. Look at it this way, if Rocco had betrayed Michael, would Michael trust him to take out Roth? I doubt it. Besides, in the early scripts to The Godfather Part 3, Rocco didn't die after taking out Roth, he ended up going back and being in Michael's caporegime. There's NO way Michael would allow that if he knew Rocco had betrayed him.

    • @hymansahak181
      @hymansahak181 Місяць тому

      @@TeddyKGB12
      Rocco was given the same deal as Frankie. A suicide while killing Roth in the process. Rocco’s family would get taken care of and not looted and dismantled.

    • @TeddyKGB12
      @TeddyKGB12 Місяць тому

      @@hymansahak181 wrong. In the drafts for Part 3, Rocco was still alive and part of Michael's inner circle. He was head of security for the Nevada compound. Get a clue.

    • @TeddyKGB12
      @TeddyKGB12 Місяць тому

      @@hymansahak181 prove it

    • @hymansahak181
      @hymansahak181 Місяць тому

      @@TeddyKGB12
      Michael until the point of meeting Fredo in the boathouse was trying as hard as he could to believe Fredo was tricked by Roth. But when Fredo opened up about “something in it for him” and the Senate lawyer being on Roth’s payroll, it was clear Fredo wasn’t tricked and did all this knowingly and selfishly. Nevertheless, Fredo also comes clean here that he was neither involved or knowledgeable of the hit!!! Which means somebody else in the family was as that somebody left the curtains open and slashed the throat of the 2 killers who botched the hit. Fredo was also with his wife at the time the killers were trying to escape as his wife saw them. Fredo couldn’t even handle a gun or get up from a wobbly seat, there is no way he could kill two people with a knife. You put this all together and Rocco was the rat. He was in charge of security, he had a crew working under him on the compound taking orders from him, he was told by Michael to keep the killers alive but didn’t to cover his ass and he was ultimately given a suicidal mission to kill Roth and turn to get shot purposely himself so his family would be taken care of, just like Frank Pentangeli’s deal.
      Fredo never ever wanted Michael dead and would never assist in a hit, never in a million years! Fredo was stupid and selfish, and as he said, he was promised “something in it for him” for some inside scoop on the family finances and dealings for Roth’s negotiations with Michael because Michael was being tough on the negotiations as Fredo said.

  • @rasoto83
    @rasoto83 3 місяці тому

    Imagine if they had a Dog?
    Well they had Guard Dogs that the Henchmen let out after the Assassination attempt

  • @kavalere
    @kavalere 3 місяці тому +1

    3:02 your wife having an affair in your home, in your bedroom where the kids play with their toys.

  • @hymansahak181
    @hymansahak181 Місяць тому

    Michael until the point of meeting Fredo in the boathouse was trying as hard as he could to believe Fredo was tricked by Roth. But when Fredo opened up about “something in it for him” and the Senate lawyer being on Roth’s payroll, it was clear Fredo wasn’t tricked and did all this knowingly and selfishly. Nevertheless, Fredo also comes clean here that he was neither involved or knowledgeable of the hit!!! Which means somebody else in the family was as that somebody left the curtains open and slashed the throat of the 2 killers who botched the hit. Fredo was also with his wife at the time the killers were trying to escape as his wife saw them. Fredo couldn’t even handle a gun or get up from a wobbly seat, there is no way he could kill two grown men with a knife, even his wife ridiculed him saying he couldn’t even belt his own mama. You put this all together and Rocco was the rat. He was in charge of security, he had a crew working under him on the compound taking orders from him, he was told by Michael to keep the killers alive but didn’t to cover his ass and he was ultimately given a suicidal mission to kill Roth and turn to get shot purposely himself so his family would be taken care of, just like Frank Pentangeli’s deal. In part 1, we were informed that Rocco had his own caporegime (family) similar to Clemenza, Tessio and Pentangeli. Rocco was Michael’s bodyguard and Michael kept him close until he figured all this out (remember - keep your friends close and your enemies closer).
    Fredo never ever wanted Michael dead and would never assist in a hit, never in a million years! Fredo was stupid and selfish, and as he said, he was promised “something in it for him” for some inside scoop on the family finances and dealings for Roth’s negotiations with Michael because Michael was being tough on the negotiations as Fredo said.

  • @wdw7374
    @wdw7374 3 місяці тому

    It was Kay, she wanted out of the marriage. Just a conspiracy theory of mine.

  • @willard2729
    @willard2729 2 місяці тому

    The Secret Service opened the drapes

  • @hughisadope3689
    @hughisadope3689 Рік тому

    If made guy Michael ever finds out who did this he will bend them over a log and have Pauly Poopstain Deluxe go to town.

  • @MrPathorn
    @MrPathorn Рік тому

    Sam Fisher did it :)

  • @mikewolverton7904
    @mikewolverton7904 Рік тому +4

    Who opened the drapes? Kaye did.

  • @TheGr8-1
    @TheGr8-1 Рік тому +1

    Rocco

  • @sionbarzad5371
    @sionbarzad5371 6 місяців тому +1

    Fredo for sho'

    • @hymansahak181
      @hymansahak181 Місяць тому

      Fredo can’t even get out of a chair let alone kill two grown adults with a knife after they botched the hit!

  • @BurtRivera-lh1lv
    @BurtRivera-lh1lv Рік тому +1

    What if the Godfather's wife did it, she even aborted his son because of her disdain for his work, so could it be a possibility?

    • @hymansahak181
      @hymansahak181 Місяць тому +1

      Nope

    • @gozerthegozarian9500
      @gozerthegozarian9500 12 днів тому

      Dude, did you miss the part where she asks him why the damn drapes are open in the first place, thus bringing it to his attention (which may well have saved his f*cking life btw)? If she were the one who opened the drapes, would she do that? No, she f*cking wouldn't, she'd keep her mouth shut & hope that he wouldn't notice or pay it no mind. Because she has a working brain. And she also has some sense of self-preservation, so she wouldn't help stage a hit on her husband where she'd be in the same f*cking room and thus in the line of fire, at risk of being killed herself by a stray bullet. I swear, some people will completely abandon any logic and rationality for a chance to slander a woman.

  • @frank3508
    @frank3508 4 місяці тому

    I've always thought Roth's hit men committed suicide once they realized the attempt on Michael's life failed and they were being pursued. If they were captured by the Corleones they would have doubtless met a slow and gruesome fate. Likewise if they somehow made it back to Roth, or tried to escape altogether with Roth's men catching up with them eventually anyway. Either way they were dead men.