NAMM 2025 New MARSHALL Amps & Pedals: Is this it???

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  • Опубліковано 26 січ 2025

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  • @TheCyberMantis
    @TheCyberMantis 3 дні тому +6

    The new JCM800 amp is $3,300. Which is nuts.
    Marshall needs to re-issue the 8100 ValveState, and put a $799 pricetag on it.
    Because... Chuck.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  3 дні тому +1

      I agree the 8100 has such a following I bet it would do well especially at marshall origin prices

    • @schuldinerfan95
      @schuldinerfan95 3 дні тому

      @@TheDistortionPrinciple and even if they were made in Vietnam as "reissue" or "8100 Studio", with lower wattage Class D power amp, and if it was just the boost channel (OD1/OD2)... or just the preamp. I use only OD2 channel on my 8100 and rather work with the guitar volume. And if it was at the price of Origin... oh, yeah!

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 дні тому

      @schuldinerfan95 I have the Martyr pedal it's very good I think as well

    • @TheCyberMantis
      @TheCyberMantis 2 дні тому

      @ They should make it 100-watt SS class AB. Cheap to make. Make it in Vietnam or Malaysia. Boss Katana head is 100-watt class AB. Those are selling for $369.

  • @d0nniebr00ke7
    @d0nniebr00ke7 4 дні тому +4

    You bring up great points!
    1) Friedman is basically making Marshalls the way we want them now.
    2) they showed some signs of innovation with, basically, improving the tone shift, but it's not a new sound or greatly improved.
    3) everything is still EL84s and same tube configurations. What are they really changing? How about something with a 6L6 one time for the homies.
    4) there is already a plethora of competition in the ampsim, cab IR world. Invest the money in signature artists and new engineering instead, and use something like Two Notes that people are already using. What I mean about signature artists, is more like what Orange is doing. They are truly supporting the music community with things like concert promotions, giving gear to artists like Deathchant that aren't big. I don't mean more Slash or Kerry King shit.
    Loved your Winnebego Man moment. Glad you kept that in there. "Do me a favor. No more bullshit today. Not from anyone, including me".

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  4 дні тому +1

      Yea man I was dying trying to get that sentence out 😂 but all very good points. After filming I realized I forgot to mention orange. They have really taken over the cool factory marshall used to have and have great artists big and small that they work with

    • @d0nniebr00ke7
      @d0nniebr00ke7 4 дні тому

      @TheDistortionPrinciple Something else I forgot to mention, is the range of wattage. I can get a 40 watt DSL combo (not head), or 100 watt heads. They have 1 50 watt offering for heads. It would be good to see a DSL type line 50 watt head that doesn't have a transformer that will blow up in 2 years. Most people don't need 100 watts anymore. He'll you can't even turn up loud enough to get the breakup you need. I would like to see more 30-50 watt entries in their line. Cheers bud and hope the new year is starting off well for you and yours.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  4 дні тому +1

      @d0nniebr00ke7 the new year has already been interesting for the channel thanks! Yep the DSL lunchbox amps are aggravating because to get the 20 you lose features

    • @ChrisCleek
      @ChrisCleek 3 дні тому +1

      Because when the JCM 900's came out with 5881/6L6's everybody acted like the sky was falling

    • @adamwatson6916
      @adamwatson6916 3 дні тому

      ​@ChrisCleek which makes no sense because Marshall originally used 5881s and KT66 along with 6550s . The El34 came later.
      In the 90s they used 5881s because they El34s at the time were horrible..

  • @timelmore2
    @timelmore2 4 дні тому +2

    These pedals are 15 years late. What are they thinking?

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  4 дні тому

      @@timelmore2 they need a younger leader. Younger than me that knows what the newer generations are looking for

  • @TIMMY512002
    @TIMMY512002 3 дні тому

    What jcm800 style pedal do you recommend ? Something to get the hair metal tone ?

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  3 дні тому +1

      @@TIMMY512002 pedalpalfx, or the Friedman ones. More expensive but plenty of options and versatility

  • @7allysolo
    @7allysolo 3 дні тому +1

    The Tech21 Fuzzy Brit basically does all those pedals in one plus you get a fuzz, now selling on Thomann for about £150

  • @danielemella1758
    @danielemella1758 2 години тому

    Tutto a prezzi esorbitanti!!!!!! Troppo alti!!!!!!!!!!!!! Saluti dall'Italia e un abbraccio a tutti!!!!! Saluti DAI DI'AUL 🦇

  • @PurposefulPorpoise
    @PurposefulPorpoise 3 дні тому +3

    Gibson bought the wrong amplifier company

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  3 дні тому

      Marshall got bought out again a day after I posted this

    • @lovingpeace9715
      @lovingpeace9715 День тому

      No, the new Gibson are useless greedy MF. Gibson would simple double the price of Marshall amps

  • @vatomaton
    @vatomaton 3 дні тому +1

    I agree. I’m still rocking my JCM2000 from the late 90’s. They do need to up their game and create something new.

  • @adamwatson6916
    @adamwatson6916 3 дні тому

    I like the idea of 20 watt 900 and I may get one . The power scaling will make it a useable amp for me

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  3 дні тому

      @@adamwatson6916 I'm surprised this one goes to one watt the others I think were 20 and 5 so that's very cool

  • @npuzio1
    @npuzio1 3 дні тому

    I agree, I've been playing the DSL100 2012 version when I got it 11 years ago, and I love it, in and out of state gigs, using it in bigger studios, its great. However, as of the last couple years I find some of the features to be a bit lacking, like the Laney amps, or the Hughes and Kettner Tubemeister series, or even the budget orange super crush 100 with the XLR DI out with IR capabilities, that is a huuuuge staple now in home studios and even commercial grade studios. If Marshall even just updated the origin series or the DSL line with this feature, or even the higher end stuff like you said, that would be such a huge game changer. I've been holding off buying a higher end amp for this issue, I don't wanna blow money on a 1 use thing, and I wish Marshall did this, id fork my money over like a kid when the ice cream truck shows up.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  3 дні тому

      I had a origin and loved the tone but because of the way the amp was designed when I cranked the master to get the gain level I wanted the effects loop was too hot

  • @pwrmac7600
    @pwrmac7600 3 дні тому

    I mean, they are bringing what people were saying they should be doing, modified versions of thier iconic amps. Late to the game? yes, but they finally are bringing to market what people were asking them to do. This is only the first iteration of the modified series, so who knows there may be more modded versions that come along down the pipe with different mods. I persoanlly think it's cool that they are stepping into this area with thier classic series amps.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  3 дні тому

      @@pwrmac7600 quite possibly the last mods. They were bought out after filming this by a Chinese based company

  • @eaglebauer944
    @eaglebauer944 4 дні тому

    I'll definitely try out the 1959. I've been looking for a decent Plexi-in-a-box for quite a while now, and these are even cheaper than the TC Electronic Ampworx.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  4 дні тому

      Yep.if I can see one in store I may give it a go. I wish they had full eq but I guess they keep it simpler for price point reasons

  • @adamwatson6916
    @adamwatson6916 3 дні тому

    I was hoping for a refresh of the DSl line . They haven't upgraded the DSl Since 2018.
    Blackstar Ht amps which are direct a competitor to the DSl line came out with the 3rd verion of the HT line . Time for a new DSl.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  3 дні тому

      @@adamwatson6916 yep. They had the OG jcm2000, moved it overseas and called it DSL then they revamped it. At this point it's a very old amp. Though I used to gig with the 50 watt jcm2000 and the 40 watt dsl

  • @mikerauter1859
    @mikerauter1859 4 дні тому +1

    a mode 4 pedal could be brutal

  • @The2ndProtectsTheRest
    @The2ndProtectsTheRest 3 дні тому

    If they really want to bring back a large portion of their fan base, they need to bring back the 70s era master volume JMP 2203 & 2204 stock and modded versions.

  • @BillDerBerg
    @BillDerBerg 9 годин тому

    I like that 1959 pedal most

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  3 години тому

      A DSL one is a bit strange. At 200 I'm about halfway to a 20 watt head which i would prefer

  • @ByeByeJoe
    @ByeByeJoe 4 дні тому

    Sinvertek is a brand that I think of right away when it comes to Marshall style pedals.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  4 дні тому

      Oh haven't heard of them I will go check them out

    • @cryptoSabbateanFrankistJacobin
      @cryptoSabbateanFrankistJacobin 2 дні тому +1

      the Sinvertek Drive N5+ (plus) is a remarkable preamp pedal
      I believe Mark Nielsen says it's a recreation of a Soldano rack unit that was designed by Mr. Bogner. They're Made in China but Sinvertek is a Chinese company.

  • @cobezcobez9430
    @cobezcobez9430 3 дні тому

    I would consider buying a Marshall if it had the two notes system that Laney uses because I love just hooking up to that and not having worries about loudness in my room

    • @ninasazonova2511
      @ninasazonova2511 3 дні тому

      Marshalls are not for house musicians! They are for rock big concerts!!!

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  3 дні тому

      That amp is so nice

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  3 дні тому

      Incorrect. They are for both, hence the 20watt studio models ... It's in the name. Studio

    • @schuldinerfan95
      @schuldinerfan95 3 дні тому

      @@ninasazonova2511 and they even make 5W and 1W versions of DSL. And there's still a possibility how to use a big 100W Marshall head in the flat - plugging into reactive load and IR. And AFAIK, a lot of venues are played through sound engineer's PA, so even miked up at lower volumes the possibility to play a big venue is still here. I think sound engineers are happier with using the 20W versions.

  • @Tacklebox455
    @Tacklebox455 4 дні тому +4

    They missed the mark on the 800, if they had of made OD 1 zener clipping diodes and OD 2 a added tube gain stage (you know like the 80s and 90s mods) that would have been awesome, only thing they could have added to round it out would have been a depth control.
    The 900 was kinda stupid,the only one that would have made sense would have been the SLX version.
    As far as the mod heads would have been cool to see them do there own/new mod.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  4 дні тому +2

      @@Tacklebox455 yep the slx is the one people actually enjoyed the others can be had super cheap because no one wants them

  • @danielkosmider8715
    @danielkosmider8715 2 дні тому

    I have serious doubts they will ever return to the throne.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 дні тому

      @@danielkosmider8715 I agree. They are listening to the wrong people. They need to listen to the working man and the youth. Not rich older guys who are out do touch imo

  • @akrmfk
    @akrmfk 4 дні тому

    Kinda cool, but i supressed my GAS for marshall amps since i bought a ceriatone. Lest they do a mini kerry king jcm800 lol ( just cause bill from mastodon used to tour with them)
    Edit: agreed w the loadbox thing, soldano did it kinda right with the astro20

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  4 дні тому

      Oh man I forgot about that a mini Kerry King would get me right in the heart lol

  • @Cara-Calico
    @Cara-Calico 4 дні тому

    Hmmmm i dont know. On the one end i love to see Marshall actually coming back to the amp market. But i will agree its very uh boomer-ish of an attempt. Like the JMP would be glorious with modern add ons. And as far as the pedals go there are so many that already do these. Their competition as far as i can think of would have to be JHS, Orange, Blackstar, Universal audio and lots of the modelers. And probably the biggest one of all, Friedman. If they somehow could outdo Friedman, cos while they're killer amps, they are on the boutique end price wise (duh). Of the line its an anemic start, there's always next year. A fully intergrated load box and two notes on a JMP? Yes?

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  4 дні тому

      Yes rumor is the real cool stuff is still being worked on hopefully that's true. I would love to see something killer and exciting coming soon

  • @BillDerBerg
    @BillDerBerg 9 годин тому

    I think these sound good TBH

  • @lovingpeace9715
    @lovingpeace9715 День тому

    Marshall needs to get seriously into the digital world. Dont get me wrong I am complete fine with a 100 watt 1959HD, for me that is the best guitar amp ever built and all I need, but Marshall really needs to evolve and start considering things like AI. Maybe they could partner with a company already doing A/R in this new domain. They should have had theyre own Fractal, Kemper, Tonex years ago.
    They really need someone that can keep the costs down and advance it technolgies up.
    Its a shame but Marshall is in danger of being no more.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  День тому

      @@lovingpeace9715 yep I had hoped Henning working with them was going to give us something new and fresh but that doesn't seem to be the case yet

  • @Starch1b2c3d4a
    @Starch1b2c3d4a 3 дні тому

    At least its better than that recent stuff they had out there... Bring back the Astoria though

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  3 дні тому

      @@Starch1b2c3d4a yea that's true it is better but they just announced they sold the company a day after I made this video as well

  • @veers0r
    @veers0r 3 дні тому

    From all I can tell the modded 2203 isn't handwired. Just a PCB. Which is fine by me, but charging nearly 2x as much over the 2203x for these basic mods seems silly, at least based on what I've seen. I'm personally not too fond of all the gizmos in a tube amp I like them simple but I'd also expect them to be priced as such.

  • @justmehere6094
    @justmehere6094 4 дні тому

    Completely agree. They missed the boat. A set of Marshall preamp pedals, with IR and power amp sim, a la Friedman IR series, priced well would sell like hot cakes. I'm guessing they are foolishly thinking it would steal from amp sales. Do we need more Marshall OD pedals, albeit from Marshall,

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  4 дні тому

      Yep. They did those reissue pedals a year or two ago? No one has talked about them since they released so I think the pedal thing may not be the right path but a friedman IR style would be very cool

  • @ulfdanielsen6009
    @ulfdanielsen6009 3 дні тому

    They´ve already tried going down the modeler route,- it failed and was discontinued as the sound of their modeling was fifteen years too old compared to the competition and like the early transistor amps of the sixties harsh sounding and grating on the ears.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  3 дні тому +1

      @@ulfdanielsen6009 yep the code amps? The thing is now there are super cheap Chinese modellers that sound good so there's no reason they couldn't get it right but yea they would probably mess it up again

  • @rl95719
    @rl95719 3 дні тому

    I'm considering the JCM800. I like that it's hand wired and the mods are done from the factory. Yes, I could buy an original 2203, but it would a shame to send it in to get it modded imo. I know the modders do a great job but I'd rather leave it original.

    • @veers0r
      @veers0r 3 дні тому

      In the video on the marshall channel it looks like it's a regular PCB just like the 2203x. No idea whats going on there given the price.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  3 дні тому

      True

  • @sgmarshall3
    @sgmarshall3 2 дні тому

    With the quality and options that Friedman already have out on the market, I’d have to assume that they are shooting for the rich lawyers and doctors, not actual players. Maybe the price of Friedman amps is high enough in the UK that these new Marshalls will be cheaper? That’s about all I can think of. For an American who loves the Marshall sound, my used JCM800 is a monster and didn’t come anywhere remotely close to the $3300 price tag of these. I’m definitely not interested. Not even a little.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  2 дні тому

      Yep the used jcm800 and 900 are more affordable than these so might as well get a vintage

  • @robertolsen9721
    @robertolsen9721 День тому

    I don't get the pricing of these modified amps, it almost twice the price of an regular. And the pedals are too big without reason. Among the best miab is Xotic sl drive and it's 1/3 of the size. The first contender that comes to mind when thinking of the modded 1959 is Friedmans upcoming Arrendondo which will cost exactly the same with all the mods plus an extra tube stage.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  День тому

      @@robertolsen9721 inside a video on a Keeley super bass yesterday. A 99 buck marshall in a box pedal that's pretty good. Feel free to check it out. Exotic makes top notch stuff and the sl drive was so good when I had it

  • @scottdunn2178
    @scottdunn2178 2 дні тому

    You can find a real vintage JCM 800 for what they're demanding for this "Modified" reissue - and they could have combined all 5 pedals into 1 and made it switchable between amps 🤦‍♂️

  • @sharkair2839
    @sharkair2839 3 дні тому

    i"m waiting on a 20 Watt studio 15. 😀

  • @riffsnoleads
    @riffsnoleads 3 дні тому +1

    The JMP/Plexi not having an fx loop is fine. The way the amp is designed the fx loop on them sucks ass anyway. I have one on my Modded SLP100 clone and it is total garbage. Just easier to run everything up front, including delays and reverbs. Or after the speaker, which is easier said than done.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  3 дні тому +1

      @@riffsnoleads I used delays and reverbs after the two notes built in loads stuff in the Laney studio bo works. Works great in that situation

    • @riffsnoleads
      @riffsnoleads 3 дні тому +1

      @@TheDistortionPrinciple i was thinking it might be difficult in a live situation. though I am sure the principle still applies if you want to do the IR thing into FOH (no thanks)
      I almost never think about studio/into a computer setups. Not old, but I do it old school.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  3 дні тому +1

      @riffsnoleads if I played gigs still I'd like a hybrid setup to do both. I guess I got used to in ears back in the day

    • @marcuso.424
      @marcuso.424 3 дні тому

      Don’t use it! It is simple! If you think it is a bad thing, anyway, Marahall SV20h, for example, has a button where you can turn it on or off, like your desire.

    • @riffsnoleads
      @riffsnoleads 3 дні тому

      @@marcuso.424 yeah, I don't use it. When I said "bad" I meant "poorly implemented." Their design in SLP and other non master volume Marshall's is total shit.

  • @mykneeshurt8393
    @mykneeshurt8393 4 дні тому

    My ears are too shit to be able to tell what sounds like what and my playing skills will never warrant me spending the money for any Marshall amp. Great video though, I agree. They need to step into the future or even modern times.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  4 дні тому

      Agreed. I love the old sound but they have been doing that for ages so more of the same is it really needed?

  • @lukasbelinski1268
    @lukasbelinski1268 3 дні тому

    ha without a foot switch you can't use it live if you just want one tone mabe but other than that no

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  3 дні тому +1

      @@lukasbelinski1268 I do wish the mods were footswitchable myself

    • @lukasbelinski1268
      @lukasbelinski1268 3 дні тому

      mabe I'm wrong but even though i'm sure its a great amp they might loose a lot of sales because of no foot switch

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  3 дні тому

      @lukasbelinski1268 I think wanting a footswitch probably puts us in the minority

  • @YummyMicroplastics
    @YummyMicroplastics 4 дні тому

    Wish those pedals weren’t so huge.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  4 дні тому

      @@YummyMicroplastics I like big pedals but I've seen people say that a few times already so you're probably correct

  • @guitarexpert2245
    @guitarexpert2245 3 дні тому

    They are stuck in the past. Who's buying 100 watt amps these days? I stick a Hotmod V2 into my 2204 and it's a hot rodded Marshall.

  • @ulfdanielsen6009
    @ulfdanielsen6009 3 дні тому

    Problem is today Marshall is a company that manufactures life style accessories with amp production as a side line.
    They´ve side tracked themselves a long time ago, lost their core customer base and is currently trying to gain ( pun intented) it back by releasing wanna be modern products that almost - read almost - cater to the sensibillities of the modern guitar world.
    Been a Marshall devotee since the mid seventies( yes, I´m that old),- but not anymore,- lost me the day I saw the first teenybobber with a pair of Marshall headphones going down the street texting her friends.
    Management needs to refind the core values that built Marshall ( or hire a new management with a background in production for the performing arts) and start getting into producing gear for actual musicians again,- otherwise I fear this is just the beginning of a slow and agonizing replication of what happened to the Titanic,- and they hit the iceberg years ago.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  3 дні тому

      Agree. I absolutely love the tones but the feature set is so ancient but almost modern just weird imo

  • @antilaw9911
    @antilaw9911 3 дні тому

    All sudden friedman stocks dropping

  • @Zygnus
    @Zygnus 4 дні тому

    I was holding off buying a JVM because I was expecting them to update it given it indeed came out nearly a couple decades ago, and there were reports of things changing in the company and cool new gear coming out it 2025, so I'm disappointed at this lineup announcement, it all seems meh.

    • @TheDistortionPrinciple
      @TheDistortionPrinciple  4 дні тому +1

      Yep. I had heard the rumors and unless more is coming later this is not quite it

  • @rexmasters1541
    @rexmasters1541 3 дні тому

    They sound terrible