I have the Nitro Elite 1 in the rotation and it's such a favourite that I bought a second pair on sale for when the first one finally wears out (which feels like it'll be a long way away...). But I do really yearn for this V2. Looks like a supershoe for the everyday runner and everyday running. Meanwhile, I'm loving the Nitro 2 as a training shoe. Puma is on a role.
I´m thinking who was the genius that makes the hole in the midle of the sole, its the ideal place where any rock can get inside. Puma I belive about the carbon plate, but shut up the F*****ing holeeeeee
I've been exceptionally happy with my Puma shoes over the last two years or so. The Deviate hits a real sweet spot, balancing cushioning with responsiveness, comfort, exceptional wear, and an outsole that few other brands are able to come anywhere close to. And to cap it off, so to speak, I find the Deviate the best fitting shoe that I've perhaps ever run in. Almost time for another pair to work its way into the rotation. Such a problem to have.
Have the Deviate Nitro 2s which I love, but would love to get these or the takumi Sen as my new speed day shoe. Can’t complain with the deviate nitro 2s being in the rotation though
Great review! Haven't picked this one up yet, but when I get back to Germany from Canada next week, it's on my buy radar. As you said, if you like a more traditional shoe but with new technology added, Puma is a great choice. One reason I enjoy my Puma shoes. Keep us updated on when the updates to Puma shoes are coming. David.
I used to buy On Running shoes as well as some ASICS. But the durability of the Pumas and especially the performance of the Pumagrip on dirt trails and even muddy conditions has really made a believer out of me!
Became crap after 150km, front stack like a rock with no bounce.. Boston 10 100 times better .. I found the Puma DN 2 to be rubbish from the start.. Are they for heel strikers? Adios 6 destroyed the elite 2.. Puma elite 1 one of the best ever.. Forefoot/midfoot striker, 85kg.. Maybe ran it to slow.. The upper ripped of in the end, right hand side.. Front stack was less than 20mm too.. Luckily got it half price..
You are probably the only reviewer on youtube that gives the deviate nitro elite lineup the love it deserves. Most reviewers will make a fuss about the 36mm stack height on the heel (us9 size) and how that is not on par with other racing shoes. I mean.. 36mm is tall enough, not everything has to be 40mm. I am loving my deviate nitro elite v1 now. Yes, it may not be as aggressive or provide as much propulsion as its competitors, may not aid you with more speed, but that's exactly why I love it. It runs WITH me (quite hard to explain, really). And of course, it's cheaper than other flagship racing shoes, plus big discount 😂. But hey, for my level, I don't need the fastest most expensive shoes out there to shave off a few minutes. A fast light enjoyable running shoe is all I need ❤
Not to mention most "40mm" shoes measure closer to 35mm. No idea why those brands aren't honest about their specifications. My Mstaspeed, Fast-R, and Endorphin Pro 3 are all between 33mm and 38mm.
@@bbnd5476 40mm is midsole+insole+outsole rubber, so not only the midsole foam. Basically the total distance between your foot and the ground. Most insoles are 3-6mm, most outsole rubber is around 2mm of thickness
Recently purchased Nitro Elite 2 75 limited edition. Man! It's so comfortable in legs. Gives super confidence in walking & running even on asphalt road. Cushion is quite balanced & I won't lie that it fits more comfortable at heel than Adidas Ultra boost & Nike Pegasus 40. As I suffer from heel spur. Even my job require me to take lectures for about 6-7 hours per day by standing. So cushioning is very very important from my perspective. Even I am using Skechers Go walk hyper arch which is very very good for brisk walk & normal running on treadmill. So here Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 2 comes out with balanced features i.e. has all good features of Adidas ultraboost, Nike Pegasus 40/39 & Skechers Go Walk clubbed in single product. Hats off to the R&D team of @Puma.
How is the fit in the midfoot. I have V1 but it's much to narrow in the midfoot for me.. My foot is falling from the side.. Is V2 wider in the midfoot base?
I bought some of the previous version a few months back for only £85 and they're fantastic. Really comfy, super light and quick. I believe this version is even better. I fantastic shoe
I'm doing my first half marathon soon which I was originally planning to do in my Deviate Nitro 2's, but I've been wondering whether stepping up to the Elites would be worthwhile (also considering Takumi Sens) don't really have a clue! Any thoughts?
I don't think he is! Known his vids for a long time! I also keep watching these channels and I hav noticed... there are some bots! but he is not one of them! Also, they are usually Asics or Nike stooges... not seen anybody do Puma! That's IMO!
Hi eddbud 👋 , congrats on 40k subs 👍 , you forgot ed it's one of the best colourways to I think, I could not stop thinking how good it looks all the way through
Great review, Puma shoes are amazing. I love run with my forever run on recovery run, deviate Nitro 2 as daily trainer and for race day i use fast-r. Today all my shoes are Puma after use others brands because how good they and dont need to expend to much
I do think they have unfortunately adopted a confusing naming system. I mean they don't need to tell us it's Nitro in the name really do they? The Deviate not Elite and the Deviate Elite are different shoes so don't give them the same name 🤷♂️ I've fallen asleep by the time we get to whether it's the 2, and heck, there's no chance I'm listening to whether it's the WTR 😂
This also is one thing putting me off trying out Puma - probably in a petty way but all of their shoes seem to look and sound the same so it’s near impossible to know where to start 🙃
@@EDDBUD Whilst Nike are far from perfect, they have at least dropped the ‘NEXT%’ and ‘Air Zoom’ naming conventions from the AF/VF and Tempo recently, as well as the ‘Invincible Run Flyknit’ now just being the ‘Invincible 3’. Always a fan of simplification when there’s so many silhouettes out there! 😊
They are quite balanced... though I wish the midsole could be a tad bit bouncier. Took them on a recent 16km run, felt flat on the 12th km which left my legs a bit sore afterwards. Also the laces came undone along the 8km mark. Not gonna take them longer than 10km anymore I guess... bummer I was hoping this shoe could be that 1 shoe to rule them all 😅. Take care edd!
Bought version 1 because of the price (£76 - Start Fitness) and tested at the running track. They literally smoked all the other super-shoes (Endorphin Pro 2/Plus/3, Vaporfly v.1, Alphafly v.1... you name it!). Using my own "protocol" (5x1Km), they were 24 seconds faster! Regrettably, after 100 miles, I've tested them again because I felt all the responsiveness suddenly faded away (as they were 5 sec slower per km). Do you believe version 2 is better in terms of delivering performances for longer? i.e. the Endorphin Pro 3 were 3.5 sec per km slower (after 100 miles), but they didn't leave my legs buttered after the workout. Unfortunately, I can't say the same thing about the Deviate Nitro Elite. Anyway, I've ended up in retiring the Puma after just 250 km, but the Pro 3 are still up and running (no pun intended ;-), after more than 600 km!
Last puma shoe I bought was velocity nitro 1 and I still use it for walking and shopping in lol😂 still has plenty of grip and cushion and no holes in the upper wish I could afford a new upto date pair a cracking brand good enough for bolt good enough for me
Hey Do you know there are 2 versions of the same shoes in the Puma Deviate 2 n Puma Elite 2 i.e. a normal and a wide version Usually the Wide version of Deviate 2 has a full carbon plate in it and is true to size. Don't know what Elite 2 offers in the wide version
I have a budget to get any one of these (PUMA DEVIATE NITRO ELITE 2 or PUMA DEVIATE NITRO 2 ) but confused between which ones to get. I will be training and also using the same shoe for the full marathon race day. which one would you suggest?
Thanks for the vid - very useful. You mention that this shoe is suited to the lighter runner. I weigh about 85kg so would this shoe not be as good for me in your opinion? What carbon shoe would you recommend for the slightly heavier runner wanted to run fast 5-10km races but also train in.
I'm 240 miles in on the Puma Nitro Elite 1st version. Mine are scuffed pretty bad underneath from a local track I run on and that track always murders shoes. If you love your shoes, don't use them on this track. I plan to get another Puma super shoe because these have worked so well for me. My main complaint is the super thin tongue and the laces. No padding at all and definitely hurts and bites ya if you lace too tightly. Before I run, it usually takes me a few tries to nail the lacing down. But $75 brand new off eBay by the way of Northeast England. Can't beat it. I don't like that they added weight to the shoes. 6.5 or 6.7 etc is great. Now I guess the new version is 7.2 oz for size 9 (US).
thank you for this nice very deep review. got mine for a very good discount and am happy with it but for me i like the bit more softness from v1 bit more :)
Hi Edd. Quick question. How does it compare to other super shoe from well known brands? Have these and planning to run in these in a marathon. Should i seek the other brands for marathon? Thanks
Really nice review Eddbud. Geez, the Magnify 2 is a beauty and coming soon. The Forever Run is a winner. I could go on and on. I'm a Puma fan all the way.
Really wanna try this shoe and the Metaspeed Edge, but I already have the Saucony pro 3, Nike VF 2, Adidas AP2 and Takumi Sen 8 plus the Hoka Tecton X 2 for trails lol. Which one should I get 😂?
Thanks for all your reviews are very helpful. As far this shoe I found it fairly narrow which caused some rubbing issues with my pinky toe. I wish it wouldn't have been the case as everything else felt great
@@EDDBUD wow Thanks for answering I have ordered the velocity nitro 2 to give it a try, is that shoe a bit wider on the toe box? Thanks for answering 👍🏽
Edd.... Just a Edd's up, with the font/layout of your video titles, it drops the Subscribe/like/share BELOW the visible viewing on the screen...you have to scroll down to like etc...not an issue for us fans😃 , but you might be losing a few through the net!👍🦾🏃🖤🐈⬛
I had to rewind some scene and stop working for a bit. 😂 I prefer to train in this shoe over the nitro 2 and for some reason, it feels much like the endorphin speed 3. It's assuring to see how the shoe held after 100 miles. Thanks ed!
I never uses to look at Puma training/running shoes coz they were just...but with them introducing Nitro woow already i had purchased 3 Nitro coz they are just 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Great video Edd, for someone who has Alphafly V.1, Vaporfly V.1, V.2 and V.3, Endorphin Pro 3, Metaspeed Sky V.1 and Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro all with plenty of miles left in them, should I buy these? 🤣
Hey up Ed hope you're well. Big fan of these shoes as you know. I'm about 11.5st on a good day😅 Would the Deviate nitro 2s be better? Or go with Elites? I'm not the lightest on the feet and like running my local reservoirs. The Velocitys have no wear been amazing. 🤔
I was able to get a pair at 40% discount at PUMA (USA) for $120+tax and free shipping. At this price, it is hard to say no. I still have many more miles in v1 though.
So would you say I should pick this over the Saucony Endorphin Pro 3? (I "need" a new shoe into my rotation) Never had a Puma running shoe before, their soccer cleats and handball shoes used to be rubbish 🙈
Not fan of VF3 but the VF2 for marathons. Yes, in a box still, placed in a jeweled case locked in a room where little sunligjt gets in to dull the veneer 😂
Thoughts on these for easy days/regular longer runs that are perhaps slightly more uptempo? I was looking for a little more shoe then my daily trainer but nothing too soft and heavy
When I win the lottery, I'm going to begin a shoe company that makes just one flawless shoe, so Ed can review it. I'm a bit worried about not getting a 3 out of 3 on the laces...
Excellent review as always. Dying to try these but I wear size 12.5 in most running shoes and these only come in 12 and 13. Such a bummer. Do they fit true to size, long or short? Wondering if I should try the 12 if they fit a bit long or 13 if they fit a bit short. If they are true to size the 13 may fit a bit sloppy.
I have the Deviate Nitro Elite 2 & I can concur that it is a very nice shoe. Maybe not as fast as the Vapourfly but better in other respects. For example, I much prefer the upper & tread on these than on my Vapourfly 3.
Four strong winds my favourite Neil young . I remember the story he told how he listened to the original non stop on a duke box, thinking it the most perfect song. Love it!
Excellent long term review Edd, unlike some ( 😜), I have used them in anger (well, very tired shuffling & not amused focus) in the 26.2 ,the 10k and plan to take them on the 'oldest half Marathon in the UK' next month. I can honestly say I like them very much. I do not have enough experiance racing in racing shoes to throw out any superlatives or BS. But from my limited experiance over the last 4 years they do a good job, the in foot feel is not overly cushy, they dont have a high bounce factor like the Saucony pro or the Rebellion pro and they do not tip you forward like the vapourfly they do their own thing (jack of all trades) and do it well.
Around me there are a handful of mixed terrain races, not technical enough to warrant a trail shoe, but hairy enough that I left the Adios Pro 3s at home. This would seem to be optimal for that sort of thing.
Great video, many thanks! Quick questions, would you pick this or the Superblast as your Daily Training / Recovery shoes please? I currently have a pair of the Takumi Sen 9, and am looking for a pair to partner with it. Thanks very much
Hi Eddie, i got a quick question: i wanna sprint as fast as i can on the tarmac for 200 meters, and for that i want the fastest shoe out there! I dont want lot of foam because it is just for 200m, but i like a good grip! Which one do you suggest?!
You have really made me reflect between these and Boston 11 to run the munich marathon. without a doubt I will go for my new puma to the nearest store. ty Master
Is the choice between Deviate N² and Deviate N Elite² similar to this pair: ADIOS vs TAKUMI SEN? I must say your review have messed up my concept of getting some Pumas finally. Elites were not on the radar at all till this 🌞 day 😅
Just ordered a pair online. My 1st pair of Puma running shoes, my 1st pair of plated shoes. I'm not sure about the store's return policy, fingers crossed.
@@EDDBUD I just wanted to quickly drop by to thank you. I think I already covered enough distance in my newly aquired Puma's to assume I'm passed the honeymoon phase. I used to be sceptical about the benefits of carbon plated shoes for slow runners like myself, and since the DNE2's aren't even adverstised as top tier competition shoes, I was NOT expecting this kind of experience. The comfort and energy return are nothing short of phenomenal compared to my Hoka Mach 5's, which I'd still rank really high. It's the best goldy locks balance between support/cushion/firmness/bounce/price/weight/grip/durability I ever had the pleasure of running in. It's the first time I had to go for a full size smaller than usual though, so that might be something to keep cautious about when ordering from a store that doesn't have the best return policy. They weight exactly the same in my size as the Mach 5's, and the Pumas DO come with an excellent grippy rubber outsole. I suspect that the reviewers who find it too stiff and harsh for the marathon distance, also feel the same thing about the Hoka Mach 5, which got me through my marathon without any trouble. So maybe I'm just more into somewhat firmer ride than the average runner out there? Anway, thanks again for leading me towards the shoes that already helped my to a couple of PB's, I'll probably snag a second pair as soon as I find a nice discount somewhere.
I have the Puma Deviate Nitro 2. Fit is perfect. But.. I do find them a bit too soft in the heel as I get tired.. Is the midsole in the heel in the Deviate Nitro Elite 2 a bit more stable / firm?
Such a noce review! I am planning to get this shoe this weekend. Do you recommend going one size up on these? I have the deviate nitro 2 not the elite and went one size up on that. Do you think I need to do the same?thank you in advance amd God speed!
@@EDDBUD - thanks for the response Ed. The shoe build is really something. I think you can consider it (due to its durability) a super trainer/race day shoe.
I’m torn between the Deviate nitro elite 2 or the standard Deviate nitro 2. Can get them for the same price, would be mainly looking to use it for tempo and speed work
@@EDDBUD I got 200 miles out of the first pair. Used the second pair in the San Diego marathon last Sunday and it went pretty well, although I had to stop to re-lace the right shoe (my runner's knot was too tight). Finished in 148th place, so can't complain. I'm def gonna try the Pumas for a half marathon soon though, maybe a whole marathon if they feel good.
I’m wondering how these compare to the Takumi’s… The Takumi Sen 8 are one of my all time favorite shoes (haven’t tried the 9s yet as I stockpiled the 8s when they were going on sale). They are one I feel like I can/want to reach for everyday, for whatever distance I may run…they feel like they were just made to my preferences in running shoes. How would you say these compare? Would a fan of the Takumi’s likely enjoy these as well?
@@EDDBUDthanks. I think it’s the narrowness I like in the Takumi, a real race fit. I have a super narrow, low volume foot, and once I cinch the laces down the takumi feel like it is custom molded to my foot.
This is exactly where I am at right now. I have a pair of Sen8 which I absolutely love for speed workouts and even HM races. I have 100miles with them and as I am looking to PB my HM time soon, I am looking for a new pair. I never felt that the Sen8 can't handle the HM distance but I thought I give the N Elites a try after watching Edd's reviews hoping they can keep my legs fresher for the last part of the race without sacrificing too much responsiveness. I just ordered them online at a great price for a carbon plated shoe IMO - 119,96 € from Puma store. I can hardly wait to test them out and see if they were the right choice.
thanks@@EDDBUD! There are plenty of Sen9 pairs on the shelfs out there if the Pumas don't help me, it's a very underrated shoe!! Worst case scenario, I have bought 2 fast shoes in my rotation at the prices of the VF3s 😅
I like how they actually improve their shoes instead of downgrade each iteration like Nike.
Yes subtle improvements each time
Puma is the future Nike is the past !
I have the Nitro Elite 1 in the rotation and it's such a favourite that I bought a second pair on sale for when the first one finally wears out (which feels like it'll be a long way away...). But I do really yearn for this V2. Looks like a supershoe for the everyday runner and everyday running. Meanwhile, I'm loving the Nitro 2 as a training shoe. Puma is on a role.
The v1 is a cracker especially at discount.
now I'm saucony speed 3 n V1 Nitro rotation !
@@EDDBUD If I like the v1, is the v2 ($200 USD) enough of an improvement to get it over the v1 at a discount ($140 USD) ?
I´m thinking who was the genius that makes the hole in the midle of the sole, its the ideal place where any rock can get inside. Puma I belive about the carbon plate, but shut up the F*****ing holeeeeee
I've been exceptionally happy with my Puma shoes over the last two years or so. The Deviate hits a real sweet spot, balancing cushioning with responsiveness, comfort, exceptional wear, and an outsole that few other brands are able to come anywhere close to. And to cap it off, so to speak, I find the Deviate the best fitting shoe that I've perhaps ever run in.
Almost time for another pair to work its way into the rotation. Such a problem to have.
It’s a smashing shoe. So usable!
Have the Deviate Nitro 2s which I love, but would love to get these or the takumi Sen as my new speed day shoe. Can’t complain with the deviate nitro 2s being in the rotation though
This one is a bit better for the wider footed and those wanting more underfoot. Less tight in the arch
A Hoka Rocket X2 vs the Puma would be a good comparison.
Great review! Haven't picked this one up yet, but when I get back to Germany from Canada next week, it's on my buy radar.
As you said, if you like a more traditional shoe but with new technology added, Puma is a great choice. One reason I enjoy my Puma shoes.
Keep us updated on when the updates to Puma shoes are coming.
David.
Will chime in with some updates where I can David
I used to buy On Running shoes as well as some ASICS. But the durability of the Pumas and especially the performance of the Pumagrip on dirt trails and even muddy conditions has really made a believer out of me!
Yes they are a step above in terms of durability
Became crap after 150km, front stack like a rock with no bounce.. Boston 10 100 times better .. I found the Puma DN 2 to be rubbish from the start.. Are they for heel strikers? Adios 6 destroyed the elite 2.. Puma elite 1 one of the best ever.. Forefoot/midfoot striker, 85kg.. Maybe ran it to slow.. The upper ripped of in the end, right hand side.. Front stack was less than 20mm too.. Luckily got it half price..
Not my view at all. Adios 6 is a firm and narrower shoe. Not for everyone.
you said that lighter runner will benefit this shoe, do you think the heavier runner will face some issues running this shoes for marathon distances?
The cushion is more subtle here. Not sure it would work so well for heavier runners. May bottom out the foam
I've been using the deviate nitro for some trail races recently and the grip is still fantastic in wet and muddy conditions
Yes it’s superb really for a road shoe
You are probably the only reviewer on youtube that gives the deviate nitro elite lineup the love it deserves. Most reviewers will make a fuss about the 36mm stack height on the heel (us9 size) and how that is not on par with other racing shoes. I mean.. 36mm is tall enough, not everything has to be 40mm.
I am loving my deviate nitro elite v1 now. Yes, it may not be as aggressive or provide as much propulsion as its competitors, may not aid you with more speed, but that's exactly why I love it. It runs WITH me (quite hard to explain, really).
And of course, it's cheaper than other flagship racing shoes, plus big discount 😂.
But hey, for my level, I don't need the fastest most expensive shoes out there to shave off a few minutes. A fast light enjoyable running shoe is all I need ❤
It’s more about how the shoe feels. I give the stats for reference but my viewers are always about how it runs. 👍🏼👊
Not to mention most "40mm" shoes measure closer to 35mm. No idea why those brands aren't honest about their specifications. My Mstaspeed, Fast-R, and Endorphin Pro 3 are all between 33mm and 38mm.
@@bbnd5476 they all seem to tally up against my measurements for higher sizes. Those are all 40ish for the sample size. Aside from the fast-r
@EDDBUD what is the sample size? I'm US10.5 or EU44.5 and my Metaspeed Sky v1 is 33mm, Fast-R 35mm, and Endo Pro 3 38mm.
@@bbnd5476 40mm is midsole+insole+outsole rubber, so not only the midsole foam.
Basically the total distance between your foot and the ground. Most insoles are 3-6mm, most outsole rubber is around 2mm of thickness
Recently purchased Nitro Elite 2 75 limited edition. Man! It's so comfortable in legs. Gives super confidence in walking & running even on asphalt road.
Cushion is quite balanced & I won't lie that it fits more comfortable at heel than Adidas Ultra boost & Nike Pegasus 40.
As I suffer from heel spur. Even my job require me to take lectures for about 6-7 hours per day by standing. So cushioning is very very important from my perspective.
Even I am using Skechers Go walk hyper arch which is very very good for brisk walk & normal running on treadmill.
So here Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 2 comes out with balanced features i.e. has all good features of Adidas ultraboost, Nike Pegasus 40/39 & Skechers Go Walk clubbed in single product.
Hats off to the R&D team of @Puma.
Another happy runner. They are too shoes, the word is spreading. Enjoy
How is the fit in the midfoot. I have V1 but it's much to narrow in the midfoot for me.. My foot is falling from the side.. Is V2 wider in the midfoot base?
Don’t find it narrow. This uses a new last. Different fit
@@EDDBUD Did you have V1?
@@i.p2088 Yes 2 pairs!
Love that shoe, but I could never do it justice by getting that cat up to a pace where it can really purr. 😺 The Velocity 2's stretch my talents.😂
The carbon plate is stiff like vaporfly 2?
Similar but less overtly rigid.
need to be a little wider, a little too snug
Found it more roomy than the v1.
I bought some of the previous version a few months back for only £85 and they're fantastic.
Really comfy, super light and quick. I believe this version is even better. I fantastic shoe
Bit more responsive feel from these and the upper is quite an update. Still the v1 at discount is insanely good
I'm doing my first half marathon soon which I was originally planning to do in my Deviate Nitro 2's, but I've been wondering whether stepping up to the Elites would be worthwhile (also considering Takumi Sens) don't really have a clue! Any thoughts?
I know a guy who ran an ultra in the elites. 👍🏼
Are you biased with Puma after they sent you to Boston?
No it’s just a good shoe
I don't think he is! Known his vids for a long time!
I also keep watching these channels and I hav noticed... there are some bots! but he is not one of them! Also, they are usually Asics or Nike stooges... not seen anybody do Puma!
That's IMO!
Hi eddbud 👋 , congrats on 40k subs 👍 , you forgot ed it's one of the best colourways to I think, I could not stop thinking how good it looks all the way through
I didnt mention that! Its a lovely looking shoe for sure. Thanks for the continued support Alan
May have to add this Boston shoe to my rotation of Boston shoes that get me to Boston; i.e., NB, Reebok, Saucony, Topo.
It’s a smashing shoe. Such a versatile model.
Great review, Puma shoes are amazing. I love run with my forever run on recovery run, deviate Nitro 2 as daily trainer and for race day i use fast-r. Today all my shoes are Puma after use others brands because how good they and dont need to expend to much
Some exciting stuff coming later in the year too
Why did you then take the Vaporfly 3 over this in your last half?
I actually answered that in the video. Last chance saloon for the VF3. Even the FOD runner feels the upper is a step back.
I do think they have unfortunately adopted a confusing naming system. I mean they don't need to tell us it's Nitro in the name really do they? The Deviate not Elite and the Deviate Elite are different shoes so don't give them the same name 🤷♂️ I've fallen asleep by the time we get to whether it's the 2, and heck, there's no chance I'm listening to whether it's the WTR 😂
This also is one thing putting me off trying out Puma - probably in a petty way but all of their shoes seem to look and sound the same so it’s near impossible to know where to start 🙃
Yeah i mean nike air zoom tempo next% and nike pegasus turbo next nature are even better!
@@EDDBUD Whilst Nike are far from perfect, they have at least dropped the ‘NEXT%’ and ‘Air Zoom’ naming conventions from the AF/VF and Tempo recently, as well as the ‘Invincible Run Flyknit’ now just being the ‘Invincible 3’. Always a fan of simplification when there’s so many silhouettes out there! 😊
They are quite balanced... though I wish the midsole could be a tad bit bouncier. Took them on a recent 16km run, felt flat on the 12th km which left my legs a bit sore afterwards. Also the laces came undone along the 8km mark. Not gonna take them longer than 10km anymore I guess... bummer I was hoping this shoe could be that 1 shoe to rule them all 😅. Take care edd!
If I could ❤ or super Thumbs up 👍🏾 this harder I would. Great review Edd. Puma for the win.
Thanks for tuning in 👍🏼👊
Great review. Thank you very much. I love your way of explaining.
I’m glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏼👊
Bought version 1 because of the price (£76 - Start Fitness) and tested at the running track.
They literally smoked all the other super-shoes (Endorphin Pro 2/Plus/3, Vaporfly v.1, Alphafly v.1... you name it!). Using my own "protocol" (5x1Km), they were 24 seconds faster!
Regrettably, after 100 miles, I've tested them again because I felt all the responsiveness suddenly faded away (as they were 5 sec slower per km).
Do you believe version 2 is better in terms of delivering performances for longer?
i.e. the Endorphin Pro 3 were 3.5 sec per km slower (after 100 miles), but they didn't leave my legs buttered after the workout. Unfortunately, I can't say the same thing about the Deviate Nitro Elite. Anyway, I've ended up in retiring the Puma after just 250 km, but the Pro 3 are still up and running (no pun intended ;-), after more than 600 km!
The v1 were super light. Perhaps even too soft.
Great review, been using Deviate nitro 2 for daily easy run and considering adding the Elite 2. Thanks Ed!
Thanks for tuning in and glad the DN2 is working out well
Last puma shoe I bought was velocity nitro 1 and I still use it for walking and shopping in lol😂 still has plenty of grip and cushion and no holes in the upper wish I could afford a new upto date pair a cracking brand good enough for bolt good enough for me
Hey
Do you know there are 2 versions of the same shoes in the Puma Deviate 2 n Puma Elite 2 i.e. a normal and a wide version
Usually the Wide version of Deviate 2 has a full carbon plate in it and is true to size. Don't know what Elite 2 offers in the wide version
I wasn’t aware there was a wide version.
As long as the sample size is legal you can go as much as you want on the bigger sizes
I love your reviews Ed, your humour always puts a smile on my face, thank you.
Glad to hear it
I have a budget to get any one of these (PUMA DEVIATE NITRO ELITE 2 or PUMA DEVIATE NITRO 2 ) but confused between which ones to get. I will be training and also using the same shoe for the full marathon race day. which one would you suggest?
The elite is lighter and a little more forgiving on foot
Thanks for the vid - very useful. You mention that this shoe is suited to the lighter runner. I weigh about 85kg so would this shoe not be as good for me in your opinion? What carbon shoe would you recommend for the slightly heavier runner wanted to run fast 5-10km races but also train in.
I think it could work just fine
I love the more natural feel of this shoe, less clumpy, happy days :)
Yes it’s more like you are running. Rather than the shoe running you!
I'm 240 miles in on the Puma Nitro Elite 1st version. Mine are scuffed pretty bad underneath from a local track I run on and that track always murders shoes. If you love your shoes, don't use them on this track. I plan to get another Puma super shoe because these have worked so well for me. My main complaint is the super thin tongue and the laces. No padding at all and definitely hurts and bites ya if you lace too tightly. Before I run, it usually takes me a few tries to nail the lacing down. But $75 brand new off eBay by the way of Northeast England. Can't beat it. I don't like that they added weight to the shoes. 6.5 or 6.7 etc is great. Now I guess the new version is 7.2 oz for size 9 (US).
Yeah I can imagine the track hammering most outsoles.
It looks like I’ll be choosing between this and the endorphin pro 3 for my next shoe 🤔
thank you for this nice very deep review. got mine for a very good discount and am happy with it but for me i like the bit more softness from v1 bit more :)
Hi Edd. Quick question. How does it compare to other super shoe from well known brands? Have these and planning to run in these in a marathon. Should i seek the other brands for marathon? Thanks
It’s a nice soft shoe that keeps out the way. It doesn’t change the way you run. Many others do.
Really nice review Eddbud. Geez, the Magnify 2 is a beauty and coming soon. The Forever Run is a winner. I could go on and on. I'm a Puma fan all the way.
Really wanna try this shoe and the Metaspeed Edge, but I already have the Saucony pro 3, Nike VF 2, Adidas AP2 and Takumi Sen 8 plus the Hoka Tecton X 2 for trails lol. Which one should I get 😂?
You are well stocked!
Thanks for all your reviews are very helpful. As far this shoe I found it fairly narrow which caused some rubbing issues with my pinky toe. I wish it wouldn't have been the case as everything else felt great
Can’t say I found any rubbing.
@@EDDBUD wow Thanks for answering
I have ordered the velocity nitro 2 to give it a try, is that shoe a bit wider on the toe box? Thanks for answering 👍🏽
I hope v3 will increase it's stack height to 38mm/30mm. I won't mind the extra weight of 225g
Yes give me a little more stack
Edd.... Just a Edd's up, with the font/layout of your video titles, it drops the Subscribe/like/share BELOW the visible viewing on the screen...you have to scroll down to like etc...not an issue for us fans😃 , but you might be losing a few through the net!👍🦾🏃🖤🐈⬛
Will investigate. Thanks for the heads up 👍🏼👊
I had to rewind some scene and stop working for a bit. 😂
I prefer to train in this shoe over the nitro 2 and for some reason, it feels much like the endorphin speed 3.
It's assuring to see how the shoe held after 100 miles. Thanks ed!
It’s looking so good for 100 miles
using both n dey r great , but puma is much quicker than speed though !
I never uses to look at Puma training/running shoes coz they were just...but with them introducing Nitro woow already i had purchased 3 Nitro coz they are just 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yes it’s a big step up from anything before
Just picked this up for $120 USD with Puma discount PUMAFAM which is good until 6/12. Super excited to lace them up.
Enjoy 👍🏼👊
Great video Edd, for someone who has Alphafly V.1, Vaporfly V.1, V.2 and V.3, Endorphin Pro 3, Metaspeed Sky V.1 and Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro all with plenty of miles left in them, should I buy these? 🤣
Maybe use those up first to get your moneys worth. 👍🏼👊
Hey up Ed hope you're well. Big fan of these shoes as you know. I'm about 11.5st on a good day😅 Would the Deviate nitro 2s be better? Or go with Elites? I'm not the lightest on the feet and like running my local reservoirs. The Velocitys have no wear been amazing. 🤔
The elite 2 is all nitro elite. Thus a bit softer. The upper is much lighter too in the DNE2
I was able to get a pair at 40% discount at PUMA (USA) for $120+tax and free shipping. At this price, it is hard to say no. I still have many more miles in v1 though.
Enjoy!
My speed 2’s are close to being dead. Tempted with these for £139.
Great shoe for the money
So would you say I should pick this over the Saucony Endorphin Pro 3? (I "need" a new shoe into my rotation) Never had a Puma running shoe before, their soccer cleats and handball shoes used to be rubbish 🙈
If you dont want maximal stacks and want a better upper yes.
Not fan of VF3 but the VF2 for marathons. Yes, in a box still, placed in a jeweled case locked in a room where little sunligjt gets in to dull the veneer 😂
🤣👊👍🏼
I'll totally cop this for my two half marathons soon, thanks Edd!
Thoughts on these for easy days/regular longer runs that are perhaps slightly more uptempo? I was looking for a little more shoe then my daily trainer but nothing too soft and heavy
Works for absolutely everything for me. One of the most versatile shoes
When I win the lottery, I'm going to begin a shoe company that makes just one flawless shoe, so Ed can review it. I'm a bit worried about not getting a 3 out of 3 on the laces...
I will do this too!
Looking for a 5k racing shoe, which shoes do you like better at that distance?
For 5k you can’t go far wrong with the liberate nitro 2 or other low weight super shoes. Maybe the sen 9?
Excellent review as always. Dying to try these but I wear size 12.5 in most running shoes and these only come in 12 and 13. Such a bummer. Do they fit true to size, long or short? Wondering if I should try the 12 if they fit a bit long or 13 if they fit a bit short. If they are true to size the 13 may fit a bit sloppy.
My feet are probably an 11.25 so you might be ok. 🤣👍🏼
I have the Deviate Nitro Elite 2 & I can concur that it is a very nice shoe. Maybe not as fast as the Vapourfly but better in other respects. For example, I much prefer the upper & tread on these than on my Vapourfly 3.
Vf3 upper isn’t great
This one or asics gel nimbus 25?? Which of these 2 is overall better?
Massively different. The Puma is about 100g lighter! Much more nimble.
It seems to be advantage Puma in the super shoe race of 2023. What do you prefer, AstroTurf or grass?
Never ran on AstroTurf. Especially in Basingstoke.
Four strong winds my favourite Neil young . I remember the story he told how he listened to the original non stop on a duke box, thinking it the most perfect song. Love it!
Can’t recall the song writer name now. Ian Tyson ( after a Google search ) beautiful song
Hoping you did not slice the shoe 😂 I do not think I have seen you this excited since the original SL20!
Nah they gave me some special parts of the shoes to use as some props.
Excellent long term review Edd, unlike some ( 😜), I have used them in anger (well, very tired shuffling & not amused focus) in the 26.2 ,the 10k and plan to take them on the 'oldest half Marathon in the UK' next month. I can honestly say I like them very much. I do not have enough experiance racing in racing shoes to throw out any superlatives or BS. But from my limited experiance over the last 4 years they do a good job, the in foot feel is not overly cushy, they dont have a high bounce factor like the Saucony pro or the Rebellion pro and they do not tip you forward like the vapourfly they do their own thing (jack of all trades) and do it well.
Thats it on the money JBS, it does lots of things and it does them well
Hey Edd, have you done a v1 vs v2 comparison video? I am interested to know if the midsole is as firm in the v2 as it is in the v1. Thanks
Yes did a combo video a while back. This one is a touch firmer but all the better for it.
Around me there are a handful of mixed terrain races, not technical enough to warrant a trail shoe, but hairy enough that I left the Adios Pro 3s at home. This would seem to be optimal for that sort of thing.
Yes I think you have it spot on.
Awesome shoe I did a 16:42 5km on my second time wearing them my last km was 3:08!
Glad they work so well for you!
Master of the midsole!! Every recommendation just works when I pock it up
Glad the reviews are helping out
Great review. May try out these to go with the Velocity Nitro.
Plus an amazing musical interlude. Cheers
Enjoy!
Great review! I remember when Four Strong Winds came out. It was a great song to wallow in misery to after a bad breakup!
What a song. Beautiful chorus.
Adizero SL on sale for $88.00on their site. I am back on the Nike and Adidas hype train.
Not one of their best models! Sold my pair!
If you do hill sprints, go to the gym, run 5k's, and want to look good doing it, the SL is for you. AMERICA FIRST!
@@2112sgb Yeah, its been an absolute disaster here in the uk. Shops cant sell them.
Are they easier to put on than the 1’s they take a while to get on, and have they improved other areas? Great for park runs etc though.
Yes much easier to get on foot and comfortable.
The heel
on this shoe is it soft or fixed heal? I find with soft heals this plays hell with my Achilles.
It’s not that soft. The plate is quite near the heel area.
Great video, many thanks! Quick questions, would you pick this or the Superblast as your Daily Training / Recovery shoes please? I currently have a pair of the Takumi Sen 9, and am looking for a pair to partner with it.
Thanks very much
The Superblast would be ideal. Even for you longer runs too
@@EDDBUD perfect! Thanks!
Wore these at a local Duathlon last weekend and dropped three minutes off my time from last year. Definitely loving them for shorter racing so far. 🙂
Glad they are working out so well for you
Hi Eddie, i got a quick question: i wanna sprint as fast as i can on the tarmac for 200 meters, and for that i want the fastest shoe out there! I dont want lot of foam because it is just for 200m, but i like a good grip! Which one do you suggest?!
Takumi sen 7 if you can find it. Bite on the outsole and glove of an upper
@@EDDBUD hey thanks! :)
I just bought this shoue can't wait to try them
You have really made me reflect between these and Boston 11 to run the munich marathon. without a doubt I will go for my new puma to the nearest store. ty Master
Quite a bit of difference between this and the boston 10/11. Around 100g in fact in my size!
Is this shoe suitable for wide feet? suits me well floatride energy x. will this one fit?
It may be ok as it uses a different last
This vs. Vaporfly 3, which one would be your pick please? Thanks!
I like the Puma over the VF. The upper is way better on this model
@@EDDBUD thanks very much!
I want them even more now godammit
It’s a top shoe. Really nice profile to it
Yeah puma have taken over where Reebok once was in my heart, everything puma release is pretty amazing now. Looking forward to trying the magnify 2!
Yes it shan’t be long now till it drops
Is the choice between Deviate N² and Deviate N Elite² similar to this pair:
ADIOS vs TAKUMI SEN?
I must say your review have messed up my concept of getting some Pumas finally. Elites were not on the radar at all till this 🌞 day 😅
The deviate nitro 2 is much more cushioned than the Adios. Maybe the sen similar to the elite but the Puma is more stable and wider
@@EDDBUD OK but then is the choice of the train+race shoe a simar "adidas pair dilemma"?
"Go for elite" or not so easy cause "both are good" 😄
My feet is 25,5cm (normal, not wide) should i choose this shoe size 26cm wide or 26,5cm normal? Puma deviate nitro 2
Seems to be a normal width shoe. You should be fine
@@EDDBUD thanks bro
Some people think it is the best shoe on the market for the half marathon distance.
It’s certainly right up there Jacob
Just ordered a pair online. My 1st pair of Puma running shoes, my 1st pair of plated shoes. I'm not sure about the store's return policy, fingers crossed.
I don’t think you will be disappointed.
@@EDDBUD I just wanted to quickly drop by to thank you. I think I already covered enough distance in my newly aquired Puma's to assume I'm passed the honeymoon phase. I used to be sceptical about the benefits of carbon plated shoes for slow runners like myself, and since the DNE2's aren't even adverstised as top tier competition shoes, I was NOT expecting this kind of experience. The comfort and energy return are nothing short of phenomenal compared to my Hoka Mach 5's, which I'd still rank really high.
It's the best goldy locks balance between support/cushion/firmness/bounce/price/weight/grip/durability I ever had the pleasure of running in. It's the first time I had to go for a full size smaller than usual though, so that might be something to keep cautious about when ordering from a store that doesn't have the best return policy. They weight exactly the same in my size as the Mach 5's, and the Pumas DO come with an excellent grippy rubber outsole.
I suspect that the reviewers who find it too stiff and harsh for the marathon distance, also feel the same thing about the Hoka Mach 5, which got me through my marathon without any trouble. So maybe I'm just more into somewhat firmer ride than the average runner out there? Anway, thanks again for leading me towards the shoes that already helped my to a couple of PB's, I'll probably snag a second pair as soon as I find a nice discount somewhere.
You’ve sold them to me and will hope the V3 doesn’t follow toooooo soon. 🙈
On the other hand, if the 3rd versh does appear quite soon, just think of the discount on this baby.
I have the Puma Deviate Nitro 2. Fit is perfect. But.. I do find them a bit too soft in the heel as I get tired.. Is the midsole in the heel in the Deviate Nitro Elite 2 a bit more stable / firm?
In this case the elite will be even softer!
@@EDDBUD Thank you. I guess it's time to get the Boston 12..
Such a noce review! I am planning to get this shoe this weekend. Do you recommend going one size up on these? I have the deviate nitro 2 not the elite and went one size up on that. Do you think I need to do the same?thank you in advance amd God speed!
I would go up a full size. Only a half maybe if you need more width.
@@EDDBUD - thanks for the response Ed. The shoe build is really something. I think you can consider it (due to its durability) a super trainer/race day shoe.
This is super, I want it!
Which is Better this or the Deviate Nitro 2?
This one. It’s worth the slight extra
Hi Edd, what's your foot length in cm measured? 30cm or 29.5cm?
My left and right foot differs. Right slightly closer to 29.7. Other is 29.3 🤣👍🏼
@@EDDBUD thanks bud! Mine is 29.5, seems like size 12 on Puma is ok :) have you tried Hyperion Max?
@@DarkPa1adin 12 is or uk 11 should be ok. Yes they sending me the Hyperion max today.
I’m torn between the Deviate nitro elite 2 or the standard Deviate nitro 2. Can get them for the same price, would be mainly looking to use it for tempo and speed work
Get the elite it’s that bit lighter and better for the cash.
@@EDDBUD thank you so much for taking time from your busy schedule to reply, it’s always much appreciated!
@@leeharrison1017 No worries! Enjoy
I need to replace my speed 3, do you think this would be a good replacement for training in (long run and speed shoe)
Quite a different vibe. But they are very usable and comfortable
My Adiós Pro 2 energy rod broke!!! I'm on the lookout for a new supershoe... This looks interesting!
Oh dear! I hope you got some decent use out of them.
I've ordered a pair of Pumas... Thanks for the detailed review!
@@EDDBUD I got 200 miles out of the first pair. Used the second pair in the San Diego marathon last Sunday and it went pretty well, although I had to stop to re-lace the right shoe (my runner's knot was too tight). Finished in 148th place, so can't complain. I'm def gonna try the Pumas for a half marathon soon though, maybe a whole marathon if they feel good.
I had to order the elite 1 at a 9.5 but wear the liberate nitro 1 and 2 at a size 9. What should I go with in the elite 2?
14 US, in tranny size.
Hmm. Feels true to size for me. Not a huge difference from the liberate 2
I’m wondering how these compare to the Takumi’s… The Takumi Sen 8 are one of my all time favorite shoes (haven’t tried the 9s yet as I stockpiled the 8s when they were going on sale). They are one I feel like I can/want to reach for everyday, for whatever distance I may run…they feel like they were just made to my preferences in running shoes.
How would you say these compare? Would a fan of the Takumi’s likely enjoy these as well?
Sen is a bit more aggressive and much more narrow
@@EDDBUDthanks. I think it’s the narrowness I like in the Takumi, a real race fit. I have a super narrow, low volume foot, and once I cinch the laces down the takumi feel like it is custom molded to my foot.
This is exactly where I am at right now. I have a pair of Sen8 which I absolutely love for speed workouts and even HM races. I have 100miles with them and as I am looking to PB my HM time soon, I am looking for a new pair. I never felt that the Sen8 can't handle the HM distance but I thought I give the N Elites a try after watching Edd's reviews hoping they can keep my legs fresher for the last part of the race without sacrificing too much responsiveness.
I just ordered them online at a great price for a carbon plated shoe IMO - 119,96 € from Puma store. I can hardly wait to test them out and see if they were the right choice.
@@silviubaciu3956 bit more squash in the Puma. Bit less narrow and more suited to increased distance.
thanks@@EDDBUD! There are plenty of Sen9 pairs on the shelfs out there if the Pumas don't help me, it's a very underrated shoe!! Worst case scenario, I have bought 2 fast shoes in my rotation at the prices of the VF3s 😅
Did you return from Boston with a suitcase full of deconstructed Puma shoes? 😂
No but i did grab some nice basketball boots. :)
@@EDDBUD but of course you did!
@@johndudley2030 🏀⛹️
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