Stevie Richards on Just How Uncaring Vince McMahon Could Be
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Stevie Richards on Just How Uncaring Vince McMahon Could Be
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If Randy Orton is saying something like this... then god only knows what Vince did to the lower card guys.
He probably did that to Kanyon by having Undertaker hit him with a steel chair in the head while dressed as Boy George
Or have a dildo named after you
@@RealGilbertGan The Kanyon thing I remember as a teenager was the first time I went wait a minute....that was such an ugly story behind the scenes.
@@thereelpineapple yep, it's a typical WWE bullying tactic
Vince was an absolute piece of shit Rapist and Twisted sick asshole. I get that he is the Reason Pro Wrestling became what it was and why myself and millions of People have these amazing memories of Our Favorite Wrestlers but IDGAF. After learning about who he really was I can't believe anyone would want to speak highly of him no matter how Famous or wealthy they became because of him. My opinon anyways lol. but yeah respect to your comment.
Any job physical or mental will use you until you are broken or not needed anymore.
Everyone can be replaced is the corporate mindset!
@@uncleedsautographsandstuff8813 it’s fine so long as workers are adequately compensated for their years of loyalty and hard work… in this case there appears to be no compensation beyond wrestlers own ability to merchandise themselves with signings and podcasts….
As a business owner you’re correct. I just want the job done, you’ll aren’t my family, and honestly the people who work for me make me physically ill just to look at them and how big of losers they are. I feel bad for them
@@GrassyknolldallasIf that's true, then you're actual subhuman scum. Your employees are literally the primary reason why you're able to make a living.
I learned that first hand at a factory/construction job how it’s just a carousel of people rotating in and out and your body getting obliterated and then next man up. Only people who stay at those places long is people who got lucky enough to get one of the few easy jobs or if you wear a suit and work a desk. When I quit mine of 7 1/2 years my foreman told me whether I’m not there, he’s not there, it don’t matter. The train don’t stop for anybody.
Dynamite kid was practically crippled from a back injury. Davey boy brought him to the ring carrying him on his back. Vince didn't care. He just wanted them at the show so Davey could drop the belts. Vince did not care.
While that may be true, Dynamite was a disgusting animal.
Vince and Dynamite are the same.
@@____K_____989That's irrelevant to the point though
What would you have liked Vince to do? Pay every single guy a great salary for the rest of their lives because they got beat up....wrestling for a living? He would have been out of business by 1990 if he operated that way. EVERY wrestling promoter in history operated the same exact way.
People love to hate Vince so much when in reality he saved wrestling. No 90s kids were going to watch whatever Verne gagne was putting on TV or Jerry Jarrett. Without wwe ecw would have never blown up like it did. The wrestling market was huge because of what wwe was doing and did. You know what else would have never happened? The nwo. Scott and Kevin both fled wcw to get a chance to go work with Vince who then made them both huge stars which he also did with hogan. No Vince and wrestling is a nothing product today.
@@trizzo5147BS
Vince could have paid insurance for every worker (not just employee in the office) from 1982 til now and would have been obscenely wealthy too, just a few tens of millions less
Make a calculation if you want. The super rich don't need to be super rich. They just go over dead bodies to become super rich
Stevie Richards is a brilliant mind. Looking forward to hearing from him more
Agreed. I enjoy him and Bin Hamin.
Good to see you here Christian. Love your channel.
@@naturallawman2965 cheers pal
@@naturallawman2965 I thought the same thing when I saw his comment!
😂 you should meet him in person. Biggest user on planet
Bret compared Vince to a horse-owner who once you can't make it, they put two slugs in the back of your head.
Stevie Richards is a all-time class act ,and one of the best interviews in wrestling thanks James and Stevie,⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
He is indeed classier than most of the ex wrestling personalities, IMO. Never seems bitter; never has an agenda. Just speaks facts.
@@nellsun2521 and he has a great memory for the things he was around and really good insight
Vince didn’t care about anyone but himself. Not even his kids.
...or his wife...clearly.
Eh, I wouldn't go that far in saying Vince didn't care. He obviously did have a heart for the well-being of talents. Vince lived inside of his WWF/WWE bubble from its initial inception. Anyone confined into their specific chamber are going to have some odd quirks about their personalities.
Quite honestly, a huge part of me is surprised he has lasted this long not being involved with the WWE.
@@LastSunrise1981 He has no choice in the matter
Lol and Verne gagne, Bill watts, Eddie Graham, fritz were all great guys right? Without Vince wrestling would have died a long time ago.
Yes because you know him personally..
I can't live without the Stevie Play-by-Play video calls. Must continue!
I don’t know much about Stevie but he’s very well spoken. And truthful
He's a great guy. From what I've seen on his channel and Russo's.
I dont know much about him be he speaks the truth... as he sees it. Doesnt make it the truth.
But is he a badass like John Moxley?? F NO!
Yeah so since don't know man think speaks the truth 😂 that how Jesus was made
Great topic, applicable to pretty much any full time job. Employers often do push the envelope to see how much an employee is willing to do and willing to put up with. Unfortunately some essentially on purpose will burn through some/all of their employees figuring that they are expendable and can eventually be replaced by new and naive hires.
I had a former boss who didn't like me and wrote me up for complaining about job conditions and workload, and I nearly quit due to me figuring that I was never going to get a fair shake. Luckily, within a year he was forced out by the company board and things got better as my new manager respected me.
Employers HATE criticism. Even though most know they fuck their employees over (in different ways). They just DGAF. cash over morals
As a kid Raven was my hero but now as a grown man I believe Stevie was the better man. And he turned out to be a great Rassler!
Great pairing. Awesome seeing you two work together.
I remember when Shane Douglas said a Dr. told Vince he was too hurt to work and Vince tried to intimidate the Dr because he didn’t like what he heard
Stevie sounds like he’s very intelligent and/or well read.
Glad to see Stevie joining up . I really dug his old channel , and obviously I love WSI as I watch everything put out .
Steven Richards is, looking back, my favourite heel of all time. It's him or Triple H. Nobody else got that nuclear heat that he could. He was awesome. Right To Censor was an amazing heel group. I love watching his channel.
The problem with business people is they see you as Dollar signs. Wrestling is a physical sport so you are likely to get hurt and be in pain with physical injuries.
Right, these are human beings out here for our entertainment
Then pay them insurance
That's every business. I work for a fortune 500 company, I make great pay and I've been there for 23 years and guess what? I am 100% replaceable. Nobody cares.
Thank you Stevie for being a "I went through it, so you don't have to." kind of human.
Yeah, always a nice surprise when people from previous generations get it and approach things from an empathetic point of view. Sadly all too rare.
A perfect example of this was Brock Lesnar. He was allowed to be ran into the ground from 2002 to 2004, then Vince took it personal when Lesnar left to the extent that it's believed his losses to Cena and Hunter on his return were punishment for this. It's no wonder Lesnar then dictated his own schedule. Benoit is another tragic example but the less said about him, the better.
That is literally how cult leaders behave when they take shit like that so personally. People like that view anyone leaving their circle as a betrayal and personal attack. I maintain to this day that had Vince not gotten into wrestling, he likely would have ended up as a cult leader. And that thought is kinda scary considering the recent allegations.
Pretty sure Vince sued Lesnar too for breach of contract. But Lesnar wouldn't go back which is also a testament to Brock's character cause he wasn't going to be bullied by Vince.
@@brown_recidivist Brock also didn't scare himself into believing that his career would be OVER if he refused to work non-stop for Vince. It's precisely that kind of paranoia that managers/business owners take advantage of. As Jessie Ventura says, wrestlers are their own worst enemies, when he tried to organize them to stand up for themselves and each other, he found out just how weak, scared, and insecure many of them are when it comes to taking on management. And if this is true of macho wrestlers.... Think about how feeble workers in other professions are!
@@ryanjacobson2508 That's right. He was a big enough star that he could go to any company at the time. He knew what his value was. A lot of these other guys are prolly brainwashed saying "well there's no other places that will hire you" Esp PRE AEW when WWE was the biggesy wrestling company.
@@ryanjacobson2508 it is kind of funny, isn't it? So many fans put wrestlers from that era on such a high pedestal of machismo and manliness. "When men were men" as Undertaker put it. But professional wrestlers really are some of the most paranoid, insecure, and skittish entertainers of all time. Especially the older generations.
That opening sound from Stevie’s theme hit me like a truck of nostalgia
With the benefit of hindsight, the sale of WWE was the best thing that could have happened for fans, wrestlers and WWE's legal department.
As much money as Vince made from it, he'd probably give it all back to have control again. Not because he love pro wrestling but for his ego. He could have retired a decade ago and lived just as comfortably.
He had no regrets. He's a legend and a billionaire and well deserved.
@@deepblue8143 Ummm, no. To quote Jesse Ventura, nobody deserves to be a billionaire. McMahon was mostly a figurehead and never as essential to his company as people insist, none of the so call titans of industry are.
Side note, I’d be willing to bet his story about growing up in a trailer park is fabricated, people like Vince always love to downplay the advantages they had.
Linda and then Nick Khan handled the administrative side and really it was more the guys who worked under Vince that made the creative what it was… Oh and the wrestlers themselves.
And as far as having “no regrets”, he didn’t leave by choice either time. He was forced out on both occasion, the second time he no longer had the power to force his way back. He famously never took holidays or understood why anyone working for him wanted to.
He never cared about the money itself. He could have had Elon Musk money and still would have wanted to be in control. I heard right now he’s got PR guys consulting him on how to repair his public image so a part of him still wants to come back. He could easily retire to some non extradition country and enjoy a comfortable retirement. He never wanted to do that. Not because he loved the WWE, his booking over the last decade is proof of that. He loved that WWE was his personal dictatorship and he’s lost that now.
He may have no remorse, but he’s got plenty of regrets.
@@deepblue8143 Remorse, unlikely. Regrets, definitely. He’s lost the only thing that gave his life meaning and it wasn’t of his own will. And no one deserves to be a billionaire, Vince was just a figurehead like most of the executive class.
Good to see u again Stevie. A rare voice of reason in respect in the wrestling podcast world is always welcome.
Stevie and James!!! What an awesome pair!
I have no idea what it is but when Stevie Richards talks, I just get drawn in and listen. Was the same when he does stuff with Russo. Man has got an extremely high IQ for the business and also public speaking.
Bill Burr made a great point. UFC May have worse injuries, but wrestling is worse as far as wear and tear on your body
Especially wwe think about it those dudes in the 80s to early 2000 those guys and gals worked like 300 days and in the 80s early to mid 90s they could have up to 300+ matches
UFC fighters are much worse off, mentally..... Pro wrestlers (usually) pull their punches, UFC guys get their heads caved in regularly.
@@ryanjacobson2508is that why chris benoit had the brain of an 85 year old man at the age of 40? Those diving headbutts weren’t pulled buddy..
Met Stevie a bit ago! Nice guy all around! The type of guy that you could sit with and have a regular conversation!
This was a great clip! A really intelligent and interesting conversation. I'm on board for this show!
Good to hear from you Stevie. All the best.
Stevie was such a solid worker! Underrated as all hell... I'm glad he is more healthy then he was a few years back....
Such a good dude! 👍
Hey as a juniata boy, stevie will always be the dude we wished we were as not 265 and 6 ft 7. Philly baby. Keeps it real. Always great to philly fans. Thank you both. Love this new shit!
Great insight!!
He cared about his personal boy toy Shawn Michaels though. Heard Michaels used to clean under Vince’s desk.
Vince McMahon sure cared about Sean Micheal’s…
Now Shawn and triple h do it to their people
@@xoynialedmcesoentill6034 because everybody is just food for someone else. They have a casting couch in Hollywood. There’s one for wrestling as well.
in recent times it was especailly strange how they quashed bugez...he was weighing 285+ and they literally would underlist him at 240 because someone was so worried about him being bigger.
Sean Micheal’s what? His health?
**Shawn
Good to see you looking great Stevie. Really enjoy everything you do
Well done
Thank you so much, sir. You bringing wrestlers with great inside knowledge and your line of questioning is just wonderful thank you so much, sir.!!
"OMG, it's Stevie Richards!"
RGT is that you? Lol
If you weren’t giving Vince the Hawk Tuah he didn’t give two 💩about you.
Just seen that "hawk tua" clip like 2 days ago for the first time, in a compilation vid.
It's fkn everwhere all of a sudden.
He didnt give a 💩 but he would like to 💩 on you
@@killwalker..what does everybody want?.....hawk tuah!
After hearing these comments about Vince and his short sighted approach to protecting valuable talent… or NOT protecting them/his investment…
It boggles my mind that ppl like Jim Ross say that the wrestling business has no impact on wrestlers becoming hooked on pain pills and somas. If you are hurt, but the boss doesn’t care and doesn’t let you heal. Of course you’re going to take oxy’s and somas to keep your job.
And I like JR. Met him, bought all his books but just using him as one example.
Your chemistry is awesome!!
Stevie looks great, glad to see he's doing well.
OMG! It’s Stevie Richards!
Vince wakes up everyday?!? I thought he never slept 😹
He probably sleeps four hours max 😄
@@rileystanekthis was Vince’s problem he think everyone was as genetically gifted as he was to keep going like a Terminator
@rileystanek it's been reported that he only slept 3-4 hours.
@@rileystanek I heard he'd sleep from like 3am to 6am n wake ready to roll
@borobinson7005 Jake the snake on Rogan said there is no one like Vince McMahon that he’s ever been around
The passion shines through in every video. It's truly inspiring.
There is a line from a Pearl Jam song "if you don't like something, don't you do it too " when people say 'I had to do it, so they should have to", is just wrong. You should always want things to get better.
I want to hear the story where Stevie Stevie-kicked Vince's office door open and went in with Blue Meanie and Nova and said, "We're taking over!" 😂
Ask him about Crash Holly. Crash was a good friend of his and they lived together until Crash passed away.
Betas
@jabrockobiden9434 what?
"choose your own adventure" my favorite books as a kid
I want to hear about Stevie working with Chyna and Debra
Most of the past wrestling we’re people doing holds not the bumps they do now.
Of they need more time off
Stevie rules. This is awesome
No disrespect to Shane Douglas, but Stevie is a major upgrade!!
Because Steven is mostly self aware about his level of stardom?
I like stevies personality better but both are great wrestling minds with great stories
Vince McMahon is a very unsavoury character who been under Federal investigation, for various crimes.
The Feds are just as crooked as Vince. Trust.
this does the question of how many years did he take off of the careers of his top Stars like was doing this to Randy who's been so privileged throughout his career
Successful people can only reach the heights they do by standing on top of mountains of broken bodies.
BOOM! STEVE RICHARDS ALREADY A DRAW. 18 HOURS AT LEAST 30K VIEWS. Good decision getting him on the lineup!
So Roddy Piper was telling the truth when he was on HBO in 2003?
Look with Eddie Guerrero. Everyone talked about him walking around in pain all day and lying on the trainers bed all the time backstage. Vince never said, go take some time off. Guy was wrestling with heart disease up a few days before passing of a heart attack. Vince is extremely lucky that didn’t happen in the ring
Remembering how things were back then, Vince would have swept it under the rug like he did with Owen and just kept the show going.
"....Cole, Eddie's dead. And you're back in 10, 9, 8..."
This is surprising from a guy continued a show after a guy droped from the celing and died live......
Vince is about as uncaring as his absentee father was when Vince was a kid 🤣🤣
who’s the king of the house shows?
Telling your worker, to get a “nanny” is crazy work, my G 😂💀 Vince is wild, man…
Vince was like Colonel Tom Parker !
Sadly When People are in the Spot of Being Management/Owners You start not caring about People under you , "Remember People don't care what happens to others as long as Its not happening To them or their Family" You just see em as Numbers / Dollars as long as they can keep working
The Kiss My Azz Club said it all
Sounds like a big anxiety inducing environment. Props to the wrestlers who survived
Vince is different most dudes like him are successful because they don’t have emotions really they just want to meet goals and get the job done
Except it's well known Vince was extremely petty, vindictive and sophomoric. Did he do a lot of good for the business? Absolutely. But he was also a glorified psychopath who used and manipulated people for his own selfish and monetary gain.
Yeah, he didn't even let that lady wash his shit out of her hair! 💀
Is that your fantasy?
That's because she realized that Vince's shit was loaded with protein which is good for the hair!
Triple h as former performer knows it’s important for wrestlers to have some time off, that’s why he gave the roster 2 weeks so they can be with their families for Christmas and New Years
Some people enjoy talking trash about Trips, but he has that locker room in a great spot. Seems like the workplace is a lot better, and the product on screen is the best it's been since the Attitude Era. Same with NXT and Shawn. He is putting out great TV and PLE's, and seems to me they aren't just throwing talent up on the main roster from NXT even though they have nothing for them to do. Jade Cargill I think is a great example of how much they are nurturing talent these days. She signed a massive contract with WWE, and she was so horrible in the ring coming over from AEW. They took months training her at the PC before she became a regular on TV, and while she still is average at best. She is miles ahead of where she was with AEW. All because Shawn and Trips didn't rush her on to shows. This is a great era of wrestling we are in, and that's largely in part to the departure of Vince and good creative wrestling minds taking over from the senile old man.
I love interviews from non main eventers because they hung around the locker room more than the main eventers I feel and just paid attention and seen more. Love Stevie too especially old ECW days with Raven. I just realized how much him and Adam Cole look similar babay 😂. And that's bull 💩 about Waltman not being able to go to Boris Malenkos funeral😢. That should be a given in all contracts or anything that you should be able to go to your trainers funeral.
Vince always had that over the top boomer workaholic mindset. I wonder if he still only sleeps for 3 hours 🤔
You are confusing Vinny Mac with being a normal citizen, and having a real job, instead of being a cheap carny criminal from the outset. Outside his obvious extremely heavy drug use, he wouldn't ever sleep thanks to self-inflicted brain damage.
As opposed to what? Being a pos lazy millennial sleeping all day? Gross and you people wonder why you're poor. Zero work ethic or drive. It's so much easier to blame others as opposed to looking in the mirror and taking some personal responsibility.
I sometimes use the history of the WWF/WWE website to look up 80s cards the then WWF held.. Vince was running four shows a day almost every day of the week back then. He really really just used these guys until they fell apart.
7:22 A "Choose Your Own Adventure" pro wrestling book would have been great. Except 9/10 endings would have Vince treating you badly.
All Vince cared about was NDA's to cover his ass😂
12:25 Jesse Ventura has mentioned that Vince Jr. and his father were both manipulative like this. Wrestlers would go to them to complain and leave satisfied but nothing had been changed.
Edit: and Stevie mentions it after I post my comment.
WWF/WWE always treated their talent like race horses... so many wrestlers became hooked on pain killers or worse. How many died early because of this issue?
That's one toxic place from what I've heard from many stories.
I mean lots of people talk shit about vince but yet they made millions of dollars because of him hell he is the reason we recognize any of them.
Loved BWO as a kid
All i can say and i'm sure i'm speaking for A LOT of talent saying this. But GOOD RIDDANCE VINCE...!!! The working environment must have been horrible under that tyrant. He's like the Trump of pro wrestling. Who the hell in their right mind would want to work for someone like that.
If you physically and mentally commit to being a wrestler, at a certain point it's hard to turn away even if you are aware of the risks.
Wwe wont last near as long without vince
Unless you work really flexible jobs or you've got Into position in you're career in whatever you do that you can work more flexible then most jobs don't care and just want you to work regardless. And i think randy Orton had more than earned a lighter schedule if he needed it because the guy has put in 20 years into the company being a top guy for nearly all them years aswell. They let taker wrestle basically once a year for the last 5-6 years of his career and even before then his schedule was alot lighter because of Injuries and randy wasnt even asking for that much.
That's no "gift" to Taker after he destroyed his body for like 25 straight years.... Good for him that the business didn't literally kill him but dozens and dozens of other wrestlers in the Vinnie Mac era died a premature death due to the roids, the stress , and the workload that Vince imposed on everyone.
This guy looks like batman
Who
Do they really need to work 350 days of the year?
People with power will abuse it,it’s human nature
With all the love. I didn't know Don Jr. did wrestling interviews. JK Stevies still Cool
Where is his motley crue tatoo ??
They should have a damn break!
Triple H is smart giving the lower card great storylines for us as an audience to get invested in which gives the higher card talent a break and vice versa. Vince really lost touch. WWE was mostly bad in the 2010’s. But this Triple H era brought wrasslin back!
I even feel like the Ruthless Aggression era is overrated. There was definitely some good stuff in it, but largely I feel like it's a big circle jerk for John Cena.
@@diehardskins4109 yea. I was in high school during that time, I remember that feeling like you were watching something wrong and your parent didn’t want you watching it to now it’s for kids.
Vince senior was the exact opposite of Vince jr. Senior was soft hearted so it was a whole different world when jr took over.
One of Vince’s top stars died during a ppv. And he CONTINUED THE SHOW.
So it is no surprise Vince could care less about Randy’s back.
No wonder Undertaker was in such a bad shape by the end of his career.
Taker got decent time off quite a few times in his career. Even early in it
@@jrwizz You're right!! He also only wrestled a couple times a year during the end of his career.
It amazes me how Vince got away with this stuff for so long with out one of these dudes absolutely beating the ever living shit out of him.
These 2 Inc RVD is the Dream team in my opinion
... Then reviewed by the OSW boys!
Get a nanny bro -Vince McMahon to Russo
For some reason. All the abuse you hear Vince dished out on people. This is one that I approve of. Fuck Russo! 🤣🤣🤣
Randy Orton probably sweating on a lot of stuff back in the day
Vince obviously hasn't play GM mode on any of the games.
Oh boyyy
scooby vibes from old work out vids lol
I can't wait for the Dark side of the Ring. Wrestling vs. The Union. When a wrestler talks about being unionized, you will never work any wrestling match. Management knows the needy employees who they can puppetmaster you to do anything vs. the employee you know not to fck with. Only VKM can suggest an idea.
Then there is a chain of command in Wrestling UA-cam videos and Wrestling Dirt Sheets. Dave Meltzer must be the Dirt Sheet General that James Romero answers to.