At 59 years - I had both of my hands operated on and now have full extension. Lucky for me - I'm a surgical technologist and "hand picked" my surgeon. It was a bit painful to recover from but, well worth it!
Yes, I am of Scottish ancestry, and one of the tales was that a Norse prince shipwrecked on the isle of Lewis, and became our great great grandfather. I thought this story fascinating and quaint , until my Father got severe Dupuytren's contracture in both hands. This required surgery to fix. Since then I have a propensity to raid places and wear a hat with horns. Also have Swedish blood.
I went to my GP because I’d noticed some funny little lumps in my palms. I’d never heard of Dupytrens Contracture before. I was in my 40’s/50’s then. Fortunately for me , apart from a bit of an exaggerated ‘bowl’ in the palms and curve to the little fingers my hands have stayed pretty much the same and I’m 87 now! This is the first time I’ve seen any info or helpful videos on the subject, so thank you - really appreciate it. 👍❤️😁
My Doctor told me that I had this 'Vikings disease' a couple of years ago. At the time I thought, well if you're going to have a disease, at least this one has a cool name!. I then had a DNA test. My dad was from Essex; and what do you know, I'm 25% Scandinavian. I have since read the Vikings popped over to Essex around 1000 years ago. Now it all makes sense!
Me too. My mom and dad were both Norwegian and I'm 99% as well. I didn't get the Viking hand until my 60's so it isn't too bad so far. It's mostly just in my left hand. Thank you for this video. 🙋🇳🇴
My dad is Swedish and Irish and my mom is Danish. My dad, my two sisters and I have dupuytren’s. I had surgery just in my baby finger and not the palm of my hand, A few years have passed and I am waiting for more surgery and I feel more knowledgeable about this condition through your clear explanations. Many thanks. 🇨🇦
Hey, everything will be OK. I’m an actor and I try and hide it every time I go on a film set. I feel so relieved that my pinky finger is straighter and my middle finger as well now comes the healing and I’m definitely going to be wearing a brace and doing lots of stretches. I’ve also heard you shouldn’t drink and smoke. I don’t know if that’s true, but I definitely don’t do both. Maybe it’s a godsend.
Yes Smoke & too much alcohol it’s one of the cause Stop both & eat vit c & E reach foods - it will almost go away with stretching 4-6 times days - each session may be 5-8 minutes Open & close fist fully in air Best exercise
I am Norwegian and my grandmother and mother had this, and now I do too! I remember how annoying it was when my gran dressed me in the morning - particularly putting on my tights before school - her fingers always got stuck in my tights, bless her.
I am 60 and have noticed bumps on my palms for a while now. I thought I'm not working that hard lately to have all these callouses. My ancestors came from Iceland, so it makes perfect sense that I've got Viking Hand. Thankfully, I don't have any bent fingers though!
Thanks for info. Brother has in both hands and his doctors says worst he has ever seen.but he had had the needle treatment several times. I am 74 and it started with slowly and fingers are not terrible but not flat. You are very articulate in your presentations.
So that is what my little finger is doing! Thanks for the explanation. My wife saw a doctor for another hand issue she had the she showed him my problem and he said in passing that he could fix that no problem. He did not elaborate, so you video was very informative.
Interesting presentation; My GP said that it wasn't serious enough to refer me; after several years of hounding him I've now been referred and the consultant told me that it has been left untreated for far too long; three fingers bent almost at right angles; at last, I'm going in for surgery!
I left mine too long, until it was bent at 90 degrees thanks to a doctor who didn't know what he was talking about. I eventually had the fasciectomy it did straighten the finger out to about 15 degrees, I was told it wouldn't be a total success and if it returns as it's a one off operation due to scar tissue then only amputation is left, fortunately it's not got any worse in the last 20 years since it was done. Good luck in November.
Very good video. This turned up in the "pinky" of my non dominant hand several years ago and it was well advanced before I realized that there was a problem and I'll probably continue to ignore it. But it does explain why I've bought several Volvo's over the years.
66 next month, and I've been wondering whether I should see the doctor about some lumps by my left little finger, then this video pops up! How very convenient.
My partner had a needle fasciotomy in London 20 or more years ago. At the time there was (I think) only one surgeon performing the procedure. It worked very well. This UA-cam clip is clear and very thorough.
Terrific video - I've suspected I have Dupeytren's for about 5 years (I'm 65) but this pretty much confirms it. Mine is quite minor in the center of my palm, pointing almost straight at my middle finger, and is causing no issues and has not changed in about 3-4 years now. I feel lucky! Yes, I have a lot of Irish and Scottish in my genetic makeup. Also, I am the only one in my entire living family chain that seems to have picked this up genetically.
I am 26 yrs old and not of Nothern European decent but I am fully Southern European (Half Serbian, Half Maltese) and I got diagnosed with dupuytrens around last October. I got this condition after I have punched a wall and fractured my hamate bone and the 4/5 finger knuckles. As a resulf of trauma I got the Dupuytrens condition. As I noticed the lumps on my hand I went to visit a physiotherapist who referred me to do an ultrasound to confirm the condition. Since its in the early stages I am currently taking care by grip strenghtening, finger/hand palm stretching, dipping my hand in hot water with dead sea salt, overnight castor oil pack and vitamin E oil. Also I am reducing alcohol and cigarettes intake as I was drinking lots and lots of alcohol (which honestly I think flared this condition) hopefully if I keep it under control by doing the mentioned treatment I will not get any severe contractures. A weird condition but I guess I m paying for my anger management issues too. Never will punch a wall again.
Hi. You can be reassured that the injury didn’t cause the Dupuytren’s. It just activated it earlier but it would have happened at some point in the future anyway. I hope it stays minimal and doesn’t progress. Best wishes. Stephen.
@@qwertt-tg8rd yes indeed. It’s essentially the same condition. We think caused by the same genes but its phenotype is much less common than in the hand.
Good God. I have that too! I noticed that long ago and assumed it was related to foot surgery. I've never had an issue with those little lumpy nodules really, over 20 years now. They did an MRI but no one used that term. (I also... recently had a prolonged episode with a frozen shoulder. My connective tissue is a bit wonky for sure.) @@PhysioMSK
@@CitizenTurtleIsland that’s interesting because researchers suspect a link between Dupuytren’s / lederhosen’s and frozen shoulder. The lumps in the foot also get called a plantar fibroma but it’s all the same thing. We are at the mercy of our genes.
This is excellent. I was just diagnosed today. I will have to keep my eye on it. I'm 61. I definitely had some north European ancestors. My mom passed away long ago and I didn't know my father.
If you’ve just started with symptoms at 61, chances are it won’t be aggressive and may never progress to bent fingers … fingers crossed 🤞(so to speak).
I was diagnosed rhis past fall after noticing a bump just below my middle finger on the palm. I've completed my first of two, 5 day courses of radiation therapy to treat it. That was in January, but it still too soon to say it has helped. So far I don't see any difference. How are you doing?
I was told to keep my eye on it. That's it. No treatment was offered and I understand it's not necessary to be honest. I do look and touch that little hard, bump, daily. Oh well. I hope your treatment evenutally helps. @@iansutube
I'm English (78 y/o) and have this condition!....who knows? we may be distantly related😄 Must be a condition that brings people together, as my Wife is Danish from Hygum (Jelling Kommune).
I had this and two other Scandinavian-linked inherited conditions (porphyria and Crohns). I developed this in my right hand. It remained ignored by my GP. Then it started locking, and finally it locked tight. So after 2 days I was sent to A&E by the GP. They tried to take Xrays but it was too tightly curled to image. So they gave me gas and tried to straighten it, breaking my finger in the process. Eventually i had surgery after the broken finger healed. Had a simple procedure been carried out at the outset...... a lot of pain & cost might have been avoided. So dont be fobbed off, like I was.
@PhysioMSK the dupeytrens had already been diagnosed with nodules and contraction on two fingers, and then it also went into locked trigger finger. Agreed, breaking my finger to get an Xray was appalling!
My Mum just had her hand really botched up by surgery for this, my granddad just lived with it... I'm forty now and it's showing so we'll see how it goes. I always thought it was a tendon problem though, so that's a really interesting video! Plus the condition having a cool name makes me feel way better.
I noticed having it about 10 years ago. I am a Metal Detectorist and used to pound my palm on the end of my trowel when unearthing treasures. Joking about the treasures, more like pull tabs and nails. I regularly stretch my fingers backwards as far as I can stand. The little lumps will sting while doing the stretch. It has been OK so far and I'm over 70.
My late wife and I both had ours show up at the same time, despite our age difference, but there is a commonality in our ancestry, i.e. NW Europe/ Germany. At that time the doctor's approach was to leave it alone, which proved to be wise.
Thank you for this informative video. I have surveyed many videos on this topic and this is tops! It is an excellent overview of the diverse factors involved and explained with good detail while simultaneously presenting for the non-technical viewer.
I only know about DC because Bill Nighy (my favourite actor) has this condition. He has, for many decades, brilliantly disguised it on film/ TV When being interviewed, people (who don’t know of his condition) think he is “flipping the bird” or “giving the middle finger”.
Thank you. So far stretching, hydro-therapy and warm weather works wonders. Every male in my family has this and their doctors diagnosed it as tendonitis. I can clearly see by the triangular puckering and problem finger identifiers that I and my sister have Dupuytrens. Our DNA (surprisingly) shows we both have high neanderthal DNA.
@@PhysioMSK My research over many years: hope you find this helpful. My family have all these conditions. Dupuytren’s is a ‘Familia’ condition that runs in families. Other conditions associated with Dupuytren’s that show in family members are Rounded Shoulders, Hypodontia (Adult Teeth Missing from birth, we are born with all our teeth), Ledderhose (curling toes), Peyronies (Google that one). Some family members can have several of these symptoms or none at all. Distribution among the family is random. Injury to just one palm triggers Dupuytren’s in both hands!!!
Many thanks, took a while to describe the condition well enough to pick up your video which exactly describes the early onset of the condition. At 77 years of age I think I will take your suggestion and use hand cream and stretching to manage the situation. Again my thanks.
It's very strange that I saw this video in my list today as just a few days ago I went to see my pain specialist and as i was waiting in the waiting room a woman politely asked me why I had my hand wrapped. I explained that I had a chronic viral condition in the palm of my hand (herpetic whitlow) and then asked her why she was curious about it. She showed me that she had a condition which is called Dupuytrens and I didn't understand what she said as I'd never heard of it before. She was nice to explain to me what she was experiencing and showed me that she had had surgery on her palm because of the severity of the contractures. Even after her surgeries she had lumps at the base of almost every finger on her hand and her fingers were beginning to bend again. She looked to be between 60-70 years old. It seemed as though she had been through quite a lot and I truly felt great sympathy for her. I'm happy to say that although I have quite a lot of Scandanavian ancestry, my great grandmother was born in Norway, I do not have Dupuytrens contracture nor does anyone else in my family (that I'm aware of), whew!
Thank you for such a clear explanation of the problem and the options available to treat this condition. I developed this in my mid 50's and saw a hand surgeon who basically told me to go away and stop wasting his time! My GP was not able to give me such a clear explanation (which is why she refered me to the surgeon) and simply called it "viking hand" and said it would not trouble me until I was much older. I am now in my mid 60's and it has not progressed very much at all. I regularly massage the area and do stretching exercies to keep it as flexible as possible. Ihope that by doing this I can delay any progression of the condition.
Well your are doing all the right things. If it has stayed stable for all this time then there is a good chance it will continue to do so. Fingers crossed !
I sustained, among other injuries, a severe wrist injury due to a high impact trauma through my hand. My hand and wrist were in a cast for many weeks and when it came off I immediately noticed some lumps that, over time, developed into a bent ring finger on my right hand. I eventually had surgery to straighten it and for the last eight years, it's been pretty good. But to say it is not painful, well try tripping on the stairs and putting your hand out to save yourself; I thought my finger had been torn from my hand!
My husband is welsh and German and has had this in both hands. As it progresses he gets trigger finger. He has pain and has had surgery in both hands. Before his last surgery we tried KT taping and it really helped.
Trigger finger is a different condition and unrelated to Dupuytren’s. K tape can indeed help with trigger finger but it won’t do anything for Dupuytren’s.
I've had this for about 25 years on both hands, more severe on my right hand just below the middle finger, I do daily exercises by pushing my hand against the wall and so far so good, I'd say I have a 15-20 degree bent on said finger, stable after many years. Fun to find out about the Viking hand and northern Europe. Thanks! 👍
Hi! A newly subscribed DC sufferer, although it doesn't "hurt" as such but it can be uncomfortable at times. I was fortunate to do Active Ageing Australia exercises course & taught stretches & exercises for the over 50's for several years. These were chair based & from the eyebrows down to the toes, literally! I still perform several myself but have not updated my credentials. I will teach them to others if asked, to help with mobility & staying independent for as long as possible. Thanks for the informative video. I shall watch more of them. I am 70 year old Aussie female (with ancestors from Shetland) & arthritis which DOES HURT. 🙏🥰🦘🦘🦘🦘
I am half Welsh/English [father] and Norwegian mother. Sixty-three in a couple of months time ... I have this problem in both hands now. So far it has not stopped me working as a freelancer gardener and handyman. I was in the Jorvik Museum a couple of months ago and could show my [Lincolnshire] cousin as we passed the exhibit showing it! I doubt it will make much difference in my lifetime ... Interesting video on a subject hardly known about. Thank you. Best wishes from George in Herefordshire.
I know a lady who had all of these symptoms back in the 1960's. I was a teenager so I remember well when one day she came home from the hospital and they had removed her hand and arm up to the elbow. I reallly didn't know what they called it at that time. I always thought she must have had a tumor at the time but after seeing this come up on many sites, I believe this is what she had. She would have been in her 40's I believe at the time.
My is absolute agony, feels like my hands have been impaled on spikes. My whole wrists and palms went through sharp and sudden agony this past week and now my fingers won’t flatten or close completely. It’s bloody aggressive and painful I’m 51. Also I must add it’s happening in my feet, swollen pads of skin and my toes feel like they’re being pulled back…. Agony, waiting for a Dr to see me next week… I have an auto immune disorder which may have triggered this condition
Thank you for this interesting and comprehensive explanation of dupuytrens. I was diagnosed with DC 8 years ago by a hand surgeon who told me it would definitely progress. Both my palms had one visible cord and one nodule each. Over the past 8 years nothing has changed and I never had any progression or problem. I am of northern European and Viking descent. To my knowledge no one in my family has or had this condition.
Thank you very much for your explanations; it has given me some reassurance. As a pianist, I noticed a nodule in my hand a year ago, but fortunately, my hands remain very flexible, and I have had no issues so far. In Belgium, we have one of Europe’s best hand surgeons who told me that nodules can appear in different places for each person and that mine is in a spot that is unlikely to cause problems. I hope I won’t have any issues, but I will keep monitoring it. It is unfortunate to have this condition, especially since I rely so heavily on my hands and am very anxious about any potential surgery.
Hi…. Great, professional presentation. I go for surgery next Month. I thought it was funny when you said “If you can slide a Pencil under your hand”… I could drive a Bus under mine. Thanks, Nigel.
@@AmazS41Thanks for asking… I postponed it until the 7th of November .. in the meantime I’m getting a Steroid Shot as it’s still rather aggressively “Growing”… that’s happening on the 7th of August. Regards, Nigel.
Both my dad and my sister have it, as do i. My father passed away in the late 90's and my sister is 20 years older than i am. She hhas it in both hands and a similar condition in her feet (incredibly painful as she is walking on the nodules). When she was diagnosed i also noticed i was getting a trigger finger. The contractures showed up last year. I immediately reached out to my massage therapist and asked if there were exercises i could do. I do them throughout the day. I wouldn't describe it as painless. Its a deep dull ache that is painful when i first wake up and sometimes causes the rest of my hand to flex too far. That is painful and can take a week or two to heal. I'm glad i know about it early! My ancestry dna test says im 15% Norse and 2% danish, with uk and nothern European heritage. Backing up the viking name for the contractures. I live in Canada.
I am 63 and have had two operations so far , one on each hand . 2nd operation by a different surgeon has left me with nerve damage to the finger operated on . I have a new thickening well underway on my damaged hand so am probably about a year away from operation number 3 !😢
Thanks so much for this, it has been very helpful. I have recently been to see a Hand surgeon who wants to operate on the Dupuytren"s at the same time he does my carpel tunnel. I am 58 and have no problem laying both palms flat on a table. I did ask at the time if it was really necessary as I am self employed and can't afford to be without the use of my hand for too long. Can I request that he only does the carpel tunnel?
Yes. That’s exactly what I would do. Operating on Dupuytren’s too early is a mistake. It can activate the disease which might be dormant just now. It’s best left alone until the fingers are bent enough for surgery to be worth it.
Thanks for the video. I've had this since my early thirties, five surgeries later it still keeps coming. Four bent fingers at the moment, I am fifty now. Also have it in both feet. Not fun, but there's worse things.
In Swedish, it is called "the Viking disease". In my case, one of the last Vikings (Harald III Sigurdsson Hardrada) was my 24th great-grandfather, so that makes a lot of sense. My fingers are bent, yes, but not much, so it is not debilitating, except, when after hard work, it also causes cramps in a muscle/nerve of the forearm just below the elbow (something this fellow forgot to mention). These cramps, at the same time, also lock the fingers in a painful "claw". 🥴 NB: Pharmaceutical pressure bands on the forearms help out in this case.
Hi and thanks commenting. Really interesting family history you have. Your symptoms of forearm pain are nothing to do with your Dupuytren’s though. Something else is going on there. Perhaps muscle cramps or trigger finger.
@@PhysioMSK -- Thanks for the info. OK, two separate problems then. My barber has this "tendon" problem as well. That is where I got the info on the pressure bands. They work. Most likely caused by overworking the fingers, you think?
Thank you very much. Very clear, and good quality information. I asked to see a GP to find out what was wrong with my right hand, and why - was it the twisting of the throttle on the motorbike? - but [incredibly] they've stopped making appointments until their backlog is cleared. Then a few days later I just happened to see this, and something made me watch. Quite reassured now, as it's only recently appeared, in my 70s.
You should be fine then. Hopefully it will stay at just a few lumps. And .. 10% of people with newly developed small lumps will find they just fade away. So you might be lucky.
I have this condition in my left hand and arthritis in both my hands. I play the ukulele which helps to stop the arthritis from progressing. The lump in my hand from Viking finger is now getting smaller because I now routinely push my fingers right back and stretch them until it is quite painful. I also try to spread my fingers individually as an exercise ....as they say no pain no gain. My brother also has this condition and his consultant told him that it only effects people ho have Viking in their blood line.
Yes, as far we as we know, the genetic mutation occurred in a Viking, and has been passed down the generations since then. I'm glad yours is doing well. Fingers crossed it stays that way.
I have it both my palms under ring fingers. It started to appear at age 50 and progresses. Definitely inherited from my mom she has that since her 70ties I believe. My homestead is right there where 9th century Kuronia viking settlements are found on Baltic coast of Latvia.
@PhysioMSK we were those vikings 😊 Every nation on Baltic coast went viking at some point. Meaning raid on others, fight and die in honor since Valhalla awaits us, there the brave will live forever!
Here I was thinking what a strange place for callouses. My hand still goes fully flat at 50 but I will be sure to keep stretching them. This video just came up randomly. Thanks!
My Chinese massage therapist called attention to these small lumps on my palms and told me she sees them often on older Scandinavians and if I didn't massage them then my fingers would freeze in a bent position. That was two years ago, and they are completely gone now. I got rid of them by interlocking my fingers and stretching them palms downward. I would repeat this periodically throughout the day until I could no longer feel the "stretch" in the fascia. I still do this as a daily routine. No regrowth detected.
Thank you for explaining this. I’m 68 and I keep active. I have a trigger thumb on my left hand and on my right palm I have a few small bumps. My fingers are not affected right now. I’m doing exercise for my thumb and also my hand. I’m keeping my eye on both. If they get worse, I’ll see a hand surgeon. Definitely overuse on my right hand. It’s good to know what treatments are available if needed. Thank you! 😊
I completely cured it by simply putting 1 tablespoon of COLLAGEN in my morning coffee. It affected my hand and foot, which was more painful. Now my doctor has recommended it to all her affected patients.
I’m glad it got better but I really don’t think the collagen would have had any effect. About 10% of Dupuytren’s cases get better by themselves and I think you are just one of the lucky 10%.
Brilliant video and advice, I’ve got it on each hand the pits between the small finger and ring finger at the palm, I’ll take onboard your advice with moisturiser and stretching.✋🤚😎
Thank you for your video. My Dupuytren's contracture helped me and my family discover who were part of our ancestors. My parents and grandparents had no idea that they had a Scandinavian origin.
About 5 years ago at age 59 my pinky on my right hand had a very severe bend in it. I had the injection of Xiaflex done and it worked somewhat. I had to have a second injection a couple of years later. It's not perfect, but considerably better. Now I'm having the same issue with my left pinky, and it's also starting to affect my right index finger. I'm considering the surgical option for it this time. I'd post a picture but UA-cam does not permit that. Thank you for the video and your descriptions of the options.
Thank you for this explanation o the hand fascia! My husband do not have Dupuytren´s contracture but had an accident where he became hanging from a ladder in his rings almost cutting his finger of. The tendon did not break but now, about a year later, he has get the same problems as in this syndrome. He met his doc but could not explain to me what had broken down in his hand but now I understand. He will get an op where they will lay some incisions in the fascia to straighten up the finger again. Thank you again!
Thank you HUGE for this perfect explanation. This (along with changes in the music industry) stopped my career playing piano, though luckily I could turn to other artistic pursuits. It has required, thus far, 3 surgeries over the years - general anaesthetic.
I’ve got “Viking hand”. I’m pretty much 99% Swedish and Norweigian. My parents did not have it and out of five kids I’m the only one with it. I read somewhere it was cause by too much rowing of the long boats. I don’t know how the effects of an activity can be passed on to future generations, but most people in these comments who have it seem to be pretty proud of it!
I'm 80. All 4 of my grandparents were immigrants to the United States from Norway. I have recently noticed odd lumpiness in my palm underneath my left ring finger. I'm a folk musician and play guitar quite a lot. For years I have noticed an irritating left hand issue that comes up irregularly. When making chords with my left hand sometimes my ring finger locks up and will not move to the next chord position. It does not occur often, thankfully. Normally I can still move my fingers freely when I'm playing, like I said, the occurence is not frequent. Since over the past year I have been noticing when I touch that left palm that what I thought might be a tendon seems to be hardening. Having watched this interesting video I'm now wondering if this is Dupuytren's Contracture, and also wonder if it is the reason for the occasional frustrataing lockdown of a chord position. Seems like I could have a Viking Hand! I am grateful there is no pain involved for me, and my finger is definitely not contracting.
Actually I don’t think this is Dupuytren’s. It sounds more like a trigger finger. See my video about this here and see what you think ua-cam.com/video/RVyBJrTCb14/v-deo.htmlsi=PscWAJOGInsYxjDB
@@PhysioMSK Thank you for the video referral... agree, sounds more like a trigger finger. Never heard of that term either! I'm fortunate, no pain involved.
I'm 66, Dupuytrens on right hand ring finger medically diagnosed at 62. It was pulling the finger inwards at the knuckle joint, lumpy & was quite painful. Went Carnivore the same year, no more carbs, sugar, fructose and after a year the D band had more than halved in size. Has continued to shrink. When stretching my palm and fingers out flat the 'band is almost no longer noticeable. NO medical intervention required and its now almost invisible. Carnivore has also reversed a raft of other health issues i had & proves to me we are what we eat. Cheers from New Zealand 🇳🇿 💚🌏💚
I hope you are also aware of all the negative impacts of carnivore diet on your short term health as well as longevity. Best of luck with this extreme diet.
Just had to add; Same here, after 3 months of BBE & dairy (no sugar or carbs) already my 3rd fingers unjam by themselves, this is such a relief... Cheers 🦦
My DC started in my late thirties. By the time I reached my 50s, my ring and middle fingers were raised up, most noticeably when I tried to do pushups. Absolutely no pain; just inconvenience. Since surgery about 8 years ago, there have been no recurring symptoms. There is some scar tissue, but it's hardly noticeable to the sight. And yes, on the Viking angle, my father's side of the family hails from Sweden.
Thank you for the explanation. I am of African descent and my Dupuytren condition became noticeable in my 70’s. About 73. I haven’t had a formal diagnosis, but all the symptoms mentioned were present, except nodules or cords don’t seem to be prominent. When the condition made its introduction, I was able to bend fingers (2) on both hands in a downward position and they stayed that way until I straightened them by pulling them up. Today, Only the left middle finger has a slight bend. I use a finger splint and do exercises to keep the finger straighter. Hopefully, there won’t be any greater deterioration since the onset of Dupuytrens’s contracture started in my 70’s.
@@LewisDickeymmmm. Are you sure this is Dupuytren’s? It sounds like trigger finger to me. I’ve done another video on that. It might be worth checking out.
Hi. It’s not usually a painful condition. Are you sure it’s DC? If it is then it’s an unusual variant. I would definitely see a hand surgeon if you are struggling with it.
Mine started about 6 years ago too with the nodule lumps. Very painful from the beginning, especially when they seem to be growing. I hopefully will get fasciectomy surgery on my pinkie in the next couple months. I wish you good luck and good health.
I have it mildly but semi painful in my fingers, but my thumb also. It is very painful in my thumb and causes me issues every day. I hate this disease. I also have it in my feet. I've had it since I was about 21. 48 now. I would also add that one major sign something was wrong is numbness. For me, with my thumb dropping everything is an issue. Hardly any video refer to the thumb.
The palmer fascia can extend into the web space between the thumb and index finger and occasionally into the thumb itself in some people, but its fairly infrequent. I haven't heard of numbness as a symptom of Dupuytrens but I suppose the small nerves in the skin could become irritated. Or you might have a separate problem such as carpal tunnel syndrome.
My father, and both of my brothers and now I have Duputrens. One brother has had hand surgery 3 times and it is back again. Surgery on his foot also. We are Irish/ German.
My father's fingers started to curl in his mid 50s with the little finger, ring finger and middle finger curling at various stages between pressed against the palm and moderately bent. He had surgery under general anaesthetic and was in hospital for a couple of days. His fingers remained partially bent for some time before reverting to full contraction such that he could only grip a steering wheel with two fingers and a thumb and at that point he was considered a hopeless case by NHS.
Once a finger is bent into the palm its very difficult to treat and get a good result. In fact ive seen cases where the finger has been amputated as it essentially becomes a useless appendage which just gets in the way.
Im Irish an my mother's ancestry goes all the way back to both the Normans and the Vikings .... she has Duprytrens and ive started developing a bump on a tendon on my hand
I have it. I think my mother has it, but she won't let me look at her hands. Sometimes she says she has arthritis, but when pressed, she admits her doctor said it was something else. Then she says I am making everything up. My mother has always had her ownversion of reality.
Myself and 3 of my brothers have DD, but none of my sisters, so is it confined to men only? My surname, originally Oda le Arledekin, is of Norman and Viking origin.
@@thomascoady3782 , I'm a woman, I've had it since I was around 50. I think it is from the stress of supporting a family. I was a single mother of four, three with special needs. The doctor told me it only happens to old Irish men. Yes, it was a hand doctor too. He went on to be worse. I no longer go near doctors.
76yr old female here, my dupuytrens started at age 59, 10 operations on both hands various fingers and joints including repeats, now on the NHS list again for three fingers - (repeats), luckily the recovery time is only a few weeks.
In retrospect, they might have been better doing a dermofasciectomy first time round. That might have reduced the number of procedures you ended up having. I hope you get a good result from the next op. Best wishes.
I have Viking Finger! It sucks! And, some of my kids have it now. I've had 5 surgeries and I'm still battling it. I waited too long. If you are of Viking descendant you will get it. See the doc early, or you'll wish you had. Good luck!
Very interesting and the first time I've had a name applied to something that affected my father from quite a young age. I recall his fingers on one hand being quite deformed when he was in his early 50s. A funny story related to this was when my father was arranging some car maintenance with a friend who was deaf. My father put up all his fingers to indicate he'd be back at ten o'clock the following day. The deaf mechanic interpreted my father's hand signals as half past eight. Thanks, Bob
Great story! I can also think of some older people when I was a child, who had this condition but they called it 'segs' and though it was due to hard work.
Great video very well presented and informative thank you. I have been applying 70% DMSO and it’s made a massive difference. Nodules have decreased, skin tightness has lessened and I have recovered some flexibility in my ring finger. Hope this helps someone !
I have this condition in my left hand. It affects my little and middle fingers. I noticed the lumps many years ago. I had no idea what they meant. I'm 73. The bent fingers are not terribly extreme, but the middle finger is quite bent. I don't really notice it throughout the day during any activity, so I'll probably just live with it. I do know instances where the injection was used and the doctor performed the straightening, but the condition returned with a vengeance.
Odins Blood! What a great video. I have this condition and will be attending an orthopaedic unit at the local hospital in a few days time. I would say I have an more advanced problem as I can’t lay my palm flat.. if I played a lot of snooker it would be of some use but as I don't these days it’s time to get things sorted. I began to notice these pits in my right hand but this hasn’t advanced a great deal. A pit formed on my left hand a couple of years later and this has progressed to finger bending and I am at the stage of having problems putting my hand in my jeans pockets etc. I also experienced numbing of my finger when I sleep sometimes although not sure that is directly related to this condition.
Numbness is not normally a symptom but its possible that one of small digital nerve has got tied up in your Dupuytren's tissue. I'm sure they will discuss your options with you next week.
I have the pit type that happens in my seventies on both hands. One hand is a little more than the other hand. Fortunately, it is mildly noticeable. My grandfather on my mother side had it on one hand and probably comes through my father side, too. My father side came trace ancestors back to about 80AD in Scandinavia. Had brown hair and a red beard which is now grey/white.
I had the Surgical Fasciectomy performed on my left hand about six years ago after the condition was affecting my work as an Airline Pilot. I wore a splint for only a few days after surgery, and performed some mild post operative stretching exercises in combination with some olive oil massage. Extra Virgin of course! A personal family history DNA check has revealed about 10% Nordic ancestry. Now, at 67 years old, recovery appears to be almost 100%. Being able to take up a guitar again during the Covid downturn was a real delight for me. This benefit has given my Wife something to "enjoy" during our retirement. Many thanks for your coverage and succinct explanation.
My neighbor and I both same age late 70s-early 80s are descendents from NM onates' colonial Hisp surnamed Spanish. We both have what you described...but she is really bent at right angles on less dominant side of her hand. I am now presenting with D-band on lt side of my palm between little and ring finger...no pain, yet sometimes I wake up with a stiffening of the fingers like trying to "claw." The nodules are very slight on rt hand. Last year, I fell for the first time and broke my carpals lt hand (fully fell with outstretched hand)..and did not do surgery...the main symptom I had from that was like a "sparking" of electrical pulses for about 5 months, that eventually went away and even more stiffening of the hand at times...but NO pain. I think it's been about 5 years or so that I had first begun to notice the nodules and very minor bands, but still had all mobility. Thank U for your detailed information and encouragement. My mat gr-grandma had the conditions as u described and my mom n grandma died before age 60. When I wake up unmoveably stiff...I have been and will continue to stretch and press and pull...I will remember to also use a brace as needed.❤
I always suspected I was a Viking. I did the Ancestry DNA Origins test and discovered I have 7% Germanic, 2% Swedish/Danish and 2% Norwegian DNA. At 63, I now have a small lump in my right hand. Result!
My grandparents are from Czechoslovakia, England and Scotland. I have no idea if they or my parents had the condition but myself and my brother both do. His progressed to surgery my 7-years out has progressed minimally. Funny how it works.
I have this in both hands. One hand started years ago. The other showed up about 6 months ago. My mother was born in Sweden. I have had what looks like the same thing in the arch of one foot. Is this possible? It’s been there for about twenty years. I’m 78. A hand surgeon told me four years ago that I had Dupuytrens and that jt was a Viking disease and I should call him if the fingers ever started to bend. Your video is much appreciated. I learned a lot more about Dupuytrens. Thank you so much.
You're very welcome. I'm glad it was helpful. The equivalent condition on the foot is called 'ledderhosens disease' or 'plantar fibroma'. It tends to behave differently to Dupuytren's because it doesn't contract and cause bent toes. Because of this, and the fact that only a small proportion of Dupuytren's patient have lumps in the foot, we think its probably an unrelated condition - but cant be sure. Best wishes. Stephen.
At 59 years - I had both of my hands operated on and now have full extension. Lucky for me - I'm a surgical technologist and "hand picked" my surgeon. It was a bit painful to recover from but, well worth it!
Yes, I am of Scottish ancestry, and one of the tales was that a Norse prince shipwrecked on the isle of Lewis, and became our great great grandfather. I thought this story fascinating and quaint , until my Father got severe Dupuytren's contracture in both hands. This required surgery to fix. Since then I have a propensity to raid places and wear a hat with horns. Also have Swedish blood.
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Ivve alwys wnadwered whAT wass cussing my bfrngrs to e thos wya..
@@moreygloss9248 Yep Morey, you sound like a Viking to me, you got it mate !
@@sergiozammel8261 tyhankos, meat. orf to reap amd poilaage a bit nowq.
@@moreygloss9248 🤣🤣😆Ok me old cock..Happy trail and good luck !!
I went to my GP because I’d noticed some funny little lumps in my palms. I’d never heard of Dupytrens Contracture before. I was in my 40’s/50’s then. Fortunately for me , apart from a bit of an exaggerated ‘bowl’ in the palms and curve to the little fingers my hands have stayed pretty much the same and I’m 87 now! This is the first time I’ve seen any info or helpful videos on the subject, so thank you - really appreciate it. 👍❤️😁
You're very welcome. Best wishes. Stephen.
This sounds just like what is happening to my hands I first noticed it in my 40s also
Knowing that this is also called "Viking Hand" makes me feel a lot better.
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I’m still going with “Celtic Claw” 😅
@@JenSell1626 definitely
Its also called German hands.
@@jonlen100 ok. I didn’t know that. 👍
My Doctor told me that I had this 'Vikings disease' a couple of years ago. At the time I thought, well if you're going to have a disease, at least this one has a cool name!. I then had a DNA test. My dad was from Essex; and what do you know, I'm 25% Scandinavian. I have since read the Vikings popped over to Essex around 1000 years ago. Now it all makes sense!
I have only 3% Scandinavian DNA, yet I have this condition in both hands.
Excellent discussion...clear, straightfoward...well done!
Thanks ☺️
Once I found out what its called and where it comes from ,I was quite proud of it😊
Absolutely. Own it !
Same
Me too. My mom and dad were both Norwegian and I'm 99% as well. I didn't get the Viking hand until my 60's so it isn't too bad so far. It's mostly just in my left hand.
Thank you for this video. 🙋🇳🇴
My dad is Swedish and Irish and my mom is Danish. My dad, my two sisters and I have dupuytren’s. I had surgery just in my baby finger and not the palm of my hand, A few years have passed and I am waiting for more surgery and I feel more knowledgeable about this condition through your clear explanations. Many thanks. 🇨🇦
You’re very welcome. I’m glad it helped. All the very best. Stephen.
Thank you so much for this video, I have this issue now and was terribly scared about my options, this made me feel so much better
I'm glad you found it helpful. Generally this condition is nothing to worry about.
Best wishes. Stephen.
Hey, everything will be OK. I’m an actor and I try and hide it every time I go on a film set. I feel so relieved that my pinky finger is straighter and my middle finger as well now comes the healing and I’m definitely going to be wearing a brace and doing lots of stretches. I’ve also heard you shouldn’t drink and smoke. I don’t know if that’s true, but I definitely don’t do both. Maybe it’s a godsend.
Yes
Smoke & too much alcohol it’s one of the cause
Stop both & eat vit c & E reach foods - it will almost go away with stretching 4-6 times days - each session may be 5-8 minutes
Open & close fist fully in air
Best exercise
I am Norwegian and my grandmother and mother had this, and now I do too! I remember how annoying it was when my gran dressed me in the morning - particularly putting on my tights before school - her fingers always got stuck in my tights, bless her.
Yep that’s classic Dupuytren’s. I hope yours isn’t too troublesome.
I am 60 and have noticed bumps on my palms for a while now. I thought I'm not working that hard lately to have all these callouses.
My ancestors came from Iceland, so it makes perfect sense that I've got Viking Hand. Thankfully, I don't have any bent fingers though!
Lets hope it stays that way. Thanks for commenting.
Thanks for info. Brother has in both hands and his doctors says worst he has ever seen.but he had had the needle treatment several times. I am 74 and it started with slowly and fingers are not terrible but not flat. You are very articulate in your presentations.
Thanks for taking the time to comment Mary. I appreciate the feedback. I hope it stays mild and manageable for you.
Best wishes. Stephen.
I have it in both hands
So that is what my little finger is doing! Thanks for the explanation. My wife saw a doctor for another hand issue she had the she showed him my problem and he said in passing that he could fix that no problem. He did not elaborate, so you video was very informative.
Glad it helped. Thanks for commenting
Interesting presentation; My GP said that it wasn't serious enough to refer me; after several years of hounding him I've now been referred and the consultant told me that it has been left untreated for far too long; three fingers bent almost at right angles; at last, I'm going in for surgery!
@@Itsafunnyoldworld1904 it’s a shame you weren’t referred earlier. I hope you get a good result 🤞 Best wishes. Stephen.
My brother had his hand operated on to correct the problem which it did for a while but the condition slowly returned
I cured mine by massaging the area for a few minutes a day. Gone in six months
@@bg588 that can’t be Dupuytren’s disease. I suspect a misdiagnosis. Might be a tendon nodule.
I left mine too long, until it was bent at 90 degrees thanks to a doctor who didn't know what he was talking about.
I eventually had the fasciectomy it did straighten the finger out to about 15 degrees, I was told it wouldn't be a total success and if it returns as it's a one off operation due to scar tissue then only amputation is left, fortunately it's not got any worse in the last 20 years since it was done.
Good luck in November.
My father had it, my sister and I have it, my son had it(died last year). My family originally came from Scotland, where Vikings settled.
Very good video. This turned up in the "pinky" of my non dominant hand several years ago and it was well advanced before I realized that there was a problem and I'll probably continue to ignore it. But it does explain why I've bought several Volvo's over the years.
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66 next month, and I've been wondering whether I should see the doctor about some lumps by my left little finger, then this video pops up!
How very convenient.
@@hypsyzygy506 it knows ! 😂
63 now after 7 to 8 surgeries the problem seems to have gone dormant for me. Doesn't hurt to see the Doctor. Cheers
My partner had a needle fasciotomy in London 20 or more years ago. At the time there was (I think) only one surgeon performing the procedure. It worked very well. This UA-cam clip is clear and very thorough.
Terrific video - I've suspected I have Dupeytren's for about 5 years (I'm 65) but this pretty much confirms it. Mine is quite minor in the center of my palm, pointing almost straight at my middle finger, and is causing no issues and has not changed in about 3-4 years now. I feel lucky! Yes, I have a lot of Irish and Scottish in my genetic makeup. Also, I am the only one in my entire living family chain that seems to have picked this up genetically.
Thanks for the comment. Other family members might have had the gene but it was just never expressed in their lifetime.
I am 26 yrs old and not of Nothern European decent but I am fully Southern European (Half Serbian, Half Maltese) and I got diagnosed with dupuytrens around last October. I got this condition after I have punched a wall and fractured my hamate bone and the 4/5 finger knuckles. As a resulf of trauma I got the Dupuytrens condition. As I noticed the lumps on my hand I went to visit a physiotherapist who referred me to do an ultrasound to confirm the condition. Since its in the early stages I am currently taking care by grip strenghtening, finger/hand palm stretching, dipping my hand in hot water with dead sea salt, overnight castor oil pack and vitamin E oil. Also I am reducing alcohol and cigarettes intake as I was drinking lots and lots of alcohol (which honestly I think flared this condition) hopefully if I keep it under control by doing the mentioned treatment I will not get any severe contractures. A weird condition but I guess I m paying for my anger management issues too. Never will punch a wall again.
Hi. You can be reassured that the injury didn’t cause the Dupuytren’s. It just activated it earlier but it would have happened at some point in the future anyway. I hope it stays minimal and doesn’t progress.
Best wishes.
Stephen.
@@PhysioMSK Hi Stephen. Could be because on my right foot I have a leddehorse too
@@qwertt-tg8rd yes indeed. It’s essentially the same condition. We think caused by the same genes but its phenotype is much less common than in the hand.
Good God. I have that too! I noticed that long ago and assumed it was related to foot surgery. I've never had an issue with those little lumpy nodules really, over 20 years now. They did an MRI but no one used that term. (I also... recently had a prolonged episode with a frozen shoulder. My connective tissue is a bit wonky for sure.) @@PhysioMSK
@@CitizenTurtleIsland that’s interesting because researchers suspect a link between Dupuytren’s / lederhosen’s and frozen shoulder. The lumps in the foot also get called a plantar fibroma but it’s all the same thing. We are at the mercy of our genes.
My grandfather and father had this. Wow, I am part Viking!!
@@Eekyellie you certainly are 👍
This is excellent. I was just diagnosed today. I will have to keep my eye on it. I'm 61. I definitely had some north European ancestors. My mom passed away long ago and I didn't know my father.
If you’ve just started with symptoms at 61, chances are it won’t be aggressive and may never progress to bent fingers … fingers crossed 🤞(so to speak).
I was diagnosed rhis past fall after noticing a bump just below my middle finger on the palm. I've completed my first of two, 5 day courses of radiation therapy to treat it. That was in January, but it still too soon to say it has helped. So far I don't see any difference. How are you doing?
I was told to keep my eye on it. That's it. No treatment was offered and I understand it's not necessary to be honest. I do look and touch that little hard, bump, daily. Oh well. I hope your treatment evenutally helps. @@iansutube
Knowing the wonderful actor Bill Nighy has this, I’m ok with it!
Absolutely 👍
I’m Danish, my dad had this,and now I do as well !! My family literally go back to Viking age,so this makes sense :)
Yes it certainly does. I hope it stays calm and quiet and your fingers stay straight :-)
I'm English (78 y/o) and have this condition!....who knows? we may be distantly related😄
Must be a condition that brings people together, as my Wife is Danish from Hygum (Jelling Kommune).
I had this and two other Scandinavian-linked inherited conditions (porphyria and Crohns).
I developed this in my right hand. It remained ignored by my GP. Then it started locking, and finally it locked tight. So after 2 days I was sent to A&E by the GP. They tried to take Xrays but it was too tightly curled to image. So they gave me gas and tried to straighten it, breaking my finger in the process. Eventually i had surgery after the broken finger healed. Had a simple procedure been carried out at the outset...... a lot of pain & cost might have been avoided. So dont be fobbed off, like I was.
@@lat1419that doesn’t sound like Dupuytren’s. That sounds like a locked trigger finger. And one that was treated badly !
@PhysioMSK the dupeytrens had already been diagnosed with nodules and contraction on two fingers, and then it also went into locked trigger finger. Agreed, breaking my finger to get an Xray was appalling!
My Mum just had her hand really botched up by surgery for this, my granddad just lived with it... I'm forty now and it's showing so we'll see how it goes. I always thought it was a tendon problem though, so that's a really interesting video! Plus the condition having a cool name makes me feel way better.
I’m glad you found the video helpful. Yep having a cool name does make up somewhat for the inconvenience of having it.
I noticed having it about 10 years ago. I am a Metal Detectorist and used to pound my palm on the end of my trowel when unearthing treasures. Joking about the treasures, more like pull tabs and nails. I regularly stretch my fingers backwards as far as I can stand. The little lumps will sting while doing the stretch. It has been OK so far and I'm over 70.
At 70 there’s a good chance it will just stay as it is. Fingers crossed, so to speak 😬🤞
Very thorough and easy to understand. Thank you!
Clearly simplified
My late wife and I both had ours show up at the same time, despite our age difference, but there is a commonality in our ancestry, i.e. NW Europe/ Germany. At that time the doctor's approach was to leave it alone, which proved to be wise.
I have to agree with leaving it alone. It's in my family too.
Thank you for this informative video. I have surveyed many videos on this topic and this is tops! It is an excellent overview of the diverse factors involved and explained with good detail while simultaneously presenting for the non-technical viewer.
Thanks very much. That’s exactly what I’m aiming to achieve. Appreciate the feedback 🙏
I only know about DC because Bill Nighy (my favourite actor) has this condition.
He has, for many decades, brilliantly disguised it on film/ TV
When being interviewed, people (who don’t know of his condition) think he is “flipping the bird” or “giving the middle finger”.
Yep. He’s a Dupuytren’s legend !
Thank you. So far stretching, hydro-therapy and warm weather works wonders. Every male in my family has this and their doctors diagnosed it as tendonitis. I can clearly see by the triangular puckering and problem finger identifiers that I and my sister have Dupuytrens. Our DNA (surprisingly) shows we both have high neanderthal DNA.
@@Carmen-xe7gx interesting. Let’s hope it stays as it is and doesn’t progress.
@@PhysioMSK My research over many years: hope you find this helpful. My family have all these conditions. Dupuytren’s is a ‘Familia’ condition that runs in families. Other conditions associated with Dupuytren’s that show in family members are Rounded Shoulders, Hypodontia (Adult Teeth Missing from birth, we are born with all our teeth), Ledderhose (curling toes), Peyronies (Google that one).
Some family members can have several of these symptoms or none at all. Distribution among the family is random.
Injury to just one palm triggers Dupuytren’s in both hands!!!
So accurate...I have had multiple operations, and what you said is 100% correct. Thanks !
Thanks for the lovely feedback. Much appreciated. Best wishes. Stephen.
Many thanks, took a while to describe the condition well enough to pick up your video which exactly describes the early onset of the condition. At 77 years of age I think I will take your suggestion and use hand cream and stretching to manage the situation. Again my thanks.
You’re very welcome. I hope it was helpful & informative.
It's very strange that I saw this video in my list today as just a few days ago I went to see my pain specialist and as i was waiting in the waiting room a woman politely asked me why I had my hand wrapped. I explained that I had a chronic viral condition in the palm of my hand (herpetic whitlow) and then asked her why she was curious about it. She showed me that she had a condition which is called Dupuytrens and I didn't understand what she said as I'd never heard of it before. She was nice to explain to me what she was experiencing and showed me that she had had surgery on her palm because of the severity of the contractures. Even after her surgeries she had lumps at the base of almost every finger on her hand and her fingers were beginning to bend again. She looked to be between 60-70 years old. It seemed as though she had been through quite a lot and I truly felt great sympathy for her. I'm happy to say that although I have quite a lot of Scandanavian ancestry, my great grandmother was born in Norway, I do not have Dupuytrens contracture nor does anyone else in my family (that I'm aware of), whew!
Thank you for such a clear explanation of the problem and the options available to treat this condition. I developed this in my mid 50's and saw a hand surgeon who basically told me to go away and stop wasting his time! My GP was not able to give me such a clear explanation (which is why she refered me to the surgeon) and simply called it "viking hand" and said it would not trouble me until I was much older. I am now in my mid 60's and it has not progressed very much at all. I regularly massage the area and do stretching exercies to keep it as flexible as possible. Ihope that by doing this I can delay any progression of the condition.
Well your are doing all the right things. If it has stayed stable for all this time then there is a good chance it will continue to do so. Fingers crossed !
Thank you. I have the condition and it has helped my understanding
Glad it helped. Thanks for commenting.
I sustained, among other injuries, a severe wrist injury due to a high impact trauma through my hand. My hand and wrist were in a cast for many weeks and when it came off I immediately noticed some lumps that, over time, developed into a bent ring finger on my right hand. I eventually had surgery to straighten it and for the last eight years, it's been pretty good. But to say it is not painful, well try tripping on the stairs and putting your hand out to save yourself; I thought my finger had been torn from my hand!
Well. It’s not usually painful as long as don’t overstretch it aggressively like that !
My husband is welsh and German and has had this in both hands. As it progresses he gets trigger finger. He has pain and has had surgery in both hands. Before his last surgery we tried KT taping and it really helped.
Trigger finger is a different condition and unrelated to Dupuytren’s. K tape can indeed help with trigger finger but it won’t do anything for Dupuytren’s.
I've had this for about 25 years on both hands, more severe on my right hand just below the middle finger, I do daily exercises by pushing my hand against the wall and so far so good, I'd say I have a 15-20 degree bent on said finger, stable after many years. Fun to find out about the Viking hand and northern Europe. Thanks! 👍
Thanks for sharing. Lets hope your stays as it is.
Hi! A newly subscribed DC sufferer, although it doesn't "hurt" as such but it can be uncomfortable at times. I was fortunate to do Active Ageing Australia exercises course & taught stretches & exercises for the over 50's for several years. These were chair based & from the eyebrows down to the toes, literally! I still perform several myself but have not updated my credentials. I will teach them to others if asked, to help with mobility & staying independent for as long as possible.
Thanks for the informative video. I shall watch more of them. I am 70 year old Aussie female (with ancestors from Shetland) & arthritis which DOES HURT. 🙏🥰🦘🦘🦘🦘
Thanks for the comment. Welcome aboard. I hope you some of the other videos helpful too. Best wishes.
Great information I am seeing a hand surgeon soon and feel much more prepared for the discussion - thank you for your time.
I’m glad it was helpful. Hope it goes well.
I am half Welsh/English [father] and Norwegian mother. Sixty-three in a couple of months time ...
I have this problem in both hands now. So far it has not stopped me working as a freelancer gardener and handyman.
I was in the Jorvik Museum a couple of months ago and could show my [Lincolnshire] cousin as we passed the exhibit showing it!
I doubt it will make much difference in my lifetime ...
Interesting video on a subject hardly known about. Thank you.
Best wishes from George in Herefordshire.
I know a lady who had all of these symptoms back in the 1960's. I was a teenager so I remember well when one day she came home from the hospital and they had removed her hand and arm up to the elbow. I reallly didn't know what they called it at that time. I always thought she must have had a tumor at the time but after seeing this come up on many sites, I believe this is what she had. She would have been in her 40's I believe at the time.
Well if it was Dupuytren’s that’s a shocking case of misdiagnosis and mistreatment. Poor lady.
My is absolute agony, feels like my hands have been impaled on spikes. My whole wrists and palms went through sharp and sudden agony this past week and now my fingers won’t flatten or close completely. It’s bloody aggressive and painful I’m 51. Also I must add it’s happening in my feet, swollen pads of skin and my toes feel like they’re being pulled back…. Agony, waiting for a Dr to see me next week… I have an auto immune disorder which may have triggered this condition
Thank you for this interesting and comprehensive explanation of dupuytrens.
I was diagnosed with DC 8 years ago by a hand surgeon who told me it would definitely progress.
Both my palms had one visible cord and one nodule each.
Over the past 8 years nothing has changed and I never had any progression or problem.
I am of northern European and Viking descent.
To my knowledge no one in my family has or had this condition.
Yes it’s an unusual condition. Difficult to predict its progress and its family links. Seems to follow its own rules !
Thank you very much for your explanations; it has given me some reassurance. As a pianist, I noticed a nodule in my hand a year ago, but fortunately, my hands remain very flexible, and I have had no issues so far. In Belgium, we have one of Europe’s best hand surgeons who told me that nodules can appear in different places for each person and that mine is in a spot that is unlikely to cause problems. I hope I won’t have any issues, but I will keep monitoring it. It is unfortunate to have this condition, especially since I rely so heavily on my hands and am very anxious about any potential surgery.
You’re very lucky to have such local expertise. I’m sure they are right. I hope it stays mild and manageable.
Very helpful and interesting. Thank you Stephen ❤
My pleasure!
Hi…. Great, professional presentation. I go for surgery next Month. I thought it was funny when you said “If you can slide a Pencil under your hand”… I could drive a Bus under mine. Thanks, Nigel.
Definitely sounds like surgery is needed then 😂 Good luck. I hope you get a great result.
I hope your surgery went well🎉
@@AmazS41Thanks for asking… I postponed it until the 7th of November .. in the meantime I’m getting a Steroid Shot as it’s still rather aggressively “Growing”… that’s happening on the 7th of August. Regards, Nigel.
Both my dad and my sister have it, as do i. My father passed away in the late 90's and my sister is 20 years older than i am. She hhas it in both hands and a similar condition in her feet (incredibly painful as she is walking on the nodules). When she was diagnosed i also noticed i was getting a trigger finger. The contractures showed up last year. I immediately reached out to my massage therapist and asked if there were exercises i could do. I do them throughout the day. I wouldn't describe it as painless. Its a deep dull ache that is painful when i first wake up and sometimes causes the rest of my hand to flex too far. That is painful and can take a week or two to heal. I'm glad i know about it early!
My ancestry dna test says im 15% Norse and 2% danish, with uk and nothern European heritage. Backing up the viking name for the contractures. I live in Canada.
That's a very good explanation especially with the visuals.
Thanks. I appreciate the feedback 🙏
I am 63 and have had two operations so far , one on each hand . 2nd operation by a different surgeon has left me with nerve damage to the finger operated on . I have a new thickening well underway on my damaged hand so am probably about a year away from operation number 3 !😢
Thanks so much for this, it has been very helpful.
I have recently been to see a Hand surgeon who wants to operate on the Dupuytren"s at the same time he does my carpel tunnel.
I am 58 and have no problem laying both palms flat on a table.
I did ask at the time if it was really necessary as I am self employed and can't afford to be without the use of my hand for too long.
Can I request that he only does the carpel tunnel?
Yes. That’s exactly what I would do. Operating on Dupuytren’s too early is a mistake. It can activate the disease which might be dormant just now. It’s best left alone until the fingers are bent enough for surgery to be worth it.
@@PhysioMSK Extremely helpful info, thanks again
Thanks for the video. I've had this since my early thirties, five surgeries later it still keeps coming. Four bent fingers at the moment, I am fifty now. Also have it in both feet. Not fun, but there's worse things.
In Swedish, it is called "the Viking disease". In my case, one of the last Vikings (Harald III Sigurdsson Hardrada) was my 24th great-grandfather, so that makes a lot of sense. My fingers are bent, yes, but not much, so it is not debilitating, except, when after hard work, it also causes cramps in a muscle/nerve of the forearm just below the elbow (something this fellow forgot to mention). These cramps, at the same time, also lock the fingers in a painful "claw". 🥴 NB: Pharmaceutical pressure bands on the forearms help out in this case.
Hi and thanks commenting. Really interesting family history you have. Your symptoms of forearm pain are nothing to do with your Dupuytren’s though. Something else is going on there. Perhaps muscle cramps or trigger finger.
@@PhysioMSK -- Thanks for the info. OK, two separate problems then. My barber has this "tendon" problem as well. That is where I got the info on the pressure bands. They work. Most likely caused by overworking the fingers, you think?
@@fredrichenning1367 Yes. That seems likely.
Thank you very much. Very clear, and good quality information.
I asked to see a GP to find out what was wrong with my right hand, and why - was it the twisting of the throttle on the motorbike? - but [incredibly] they've stopped making appointments until their backlog is cleared. Then a few days later I just happened to see this, and something made me watch. Quite reassured now, as it's only recently appeared, in my 70s.
You should be fine then. Hopefully it will stay at just a few lumps. And .. 10% of people with newly developed small lumps will find they just fade away. So you might be lucky.
@@PhysioMSK Thanks. And Best wishes.
Canadian here. I have it in both hands and one of my sons has already had one of his fingers operated on.
I have this condition in my left hand and arthritis in both my hands. I play the ukulele which helps to stop the arthritis from progressing. The lump in my hand from Viking finger is now getting smaller because I now routinely push my fingers right back and stretch them until it is quite painful. I also try to spread my fingers individually as an exercise ....as they say no pain no gain.
My brother also has this condition and his consultant told him that it only effects people ho have Viking in their blood line.
Yes, as far we as we know, the genetic mutation occurred in a Viking, and has been passed down the generations since then. I'm glad yours is doing well. Fingers crossed it stays that way.
I have it both my palms under ring fingers. It started to appear at age 50 and progresses. Definitely inherited from my mom she has that since her 70ties I believe. My homestead is right there where 9th century Kuronia viking settlements are found on Baltic coast of Latvia.
Yep. Those Vikings were certainly very good at spreading their genetic material !
@PhysioMSK we were those vikings 😊 Every nation on Baltic coast went viking at some point. Meaning raid on others, fight and die in honor since Valhalla awaits us, there the brave will live forever!
Here I was thinking what a strange place for callouses. My hand still goes fully flat at 50 but I will be sure to keep stretching them. This video just came up randomly. Thanks!
Perfect timing! Glad it was useful. Best wishes. Stephen.
My Chinese massage therapist called attention to these small lumps on my palms and told me she sees them often on older Scandinavians and if I didn't massage them then my fingers would freeze in a bent position. That was two years ago, and they are completely gone now. I got rid of them by interlocking my fingers and stretching them palms downward. I would repeat this periodically throughout the day until I could no longer feel the "stretch" in the fascia. I still do this as a daily routine. No regrowth detected.
I’ve heard a few people saying this but I’ve never seen any research into it. Would make an interesting study.
Thank you for explaining this. I’m 68 and I keep active. I have a trigger thumb on my left hand and on my right palm I have a few small bumps. My fingers are not affected right now. I’m doing exercise for my thumb and also my hand. I’m keeping my eye on both. If they get worse, I’ll see a hand surgeon. Definitely overuse on my right hand. It’s good to know what treatments are available if needed. Thank you! 😊
I have it and so did both my parents.
I completely cured it by simply putting 1 tablespoon of COLLAGEN in my morning coffee. It affected my hand and foot, which was more painful. Now my doctor has recommended it to all her affected patients.
I’m glad it got better but I really don’t think the collagen would have had any effect. About 10% of Dupuytren’s cases get better by themselves and I think you are just one of the lucky 10%.
Brilliant video and advice, I’ve got it on each hand the pits between the small finger and ring finger at the palm, I’ll take onboard your advice with moisturiser and stretching.✋🤚😎
Thank you for your video. My Dupuytren's contracture helped me and my family discover who were part of our ancestors. My parents and grandparents had no idea that they had a Scandinavian origin.
Every cloud has a silver lining eh ! 👍
About 5 years ago at age 59 my pinky on my right hand had a very severe bend in it. I had the injection of Xiaflex done and it worked somewhat. I had to have a second injection a couple of years later. It's not perfect, but considerably better. Now I'm having the same issue with my left pinky, and it's also starting to affect my right index finger. I'm considering the surgical option for it this time. I'd post a picture but UA-cam does not permit that. Thank you for the video and your descriptions of the options.
Good luck with it. Be guided by your hand surgeon. They usually know which options are best for you.
Thank you for this explanation o the hand fascia! My husband do not have Dupuytren´s contracture but had an accident where he became hanging from a ladder in his rings almost cutting his finger of. The tendon did not break but now, about a year later, he has get the same problems as in this syndrome. He met his doc but could not explain to me what had broken down in his hand but now I understand. He will get an op where they will lay some incisions in the fascia to straighten up the finger again. Thank you again!
@@Passioakka very interesting. The injury could have activated the previously dormant Dupuytren’s ? I hope the surgery helps. Best wishes. Stephen.
Thank you HUGE for this perfect explanation. This (along with changes in the music industry) stopped my career playing piano, though luckily I could turn to other artistic pursuits. It has required, thus far, 3 surgeries over the years - general anaesthetic.
Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for commenting. Best wishes.
I’ve got “Viking hand”. I’m pretty much 99% Swedish and Norweigian. My parents did not have it and out of five kids I’m the only one with it. I read somewhere it was cause by too much rowing of the long boats. I don’t know how the effects of an activity can be passed on to future generations, but most people in these comments who have it seem to be pretty proud of it!
They do indeed. I mean who wouldn't want a Viking Hand ! (as long it stays under control) :-)
I'm 80. All 4 of my grandparents were immigrants to the United States from Norway. I have recently noticed odd lumpiness in my palm underneath my left ring finger. I'm a folk musician and play guitar quite a lot. For years I have noticed an irritating left hand issue that comes up irregularly. When making chords with my left hand sometimes my ring finger locks up and will not move to the next chord position. It does not occur often, thankfully. Normally I can still move my fingers freely when I'm playing, like I said, the occurence is not frequent. Since over the past year I have been noticing when I touch that left palm that what I thought might be a tendon seems to be hardening. Having watched this interesting video I'm now wondering if this is Dupuytren's Contracture, and also wonder if it is the reason for the occasional frustrataing lockdown of a chord position. Seems like I could have a Viking Hand! I am grateful there is no pain involved for me, and my finger is definitely not contracting.
Actually I don’t think this is Dupuytren’s. It sounds more like a trigger finger. See my video about this here and see what you think ua-cam.com/video/RVyBJrTCb14/v-deo.htmlsi=PscWAJOGInsYxjDB
@@PhysioMSK Thank you for the video referral... agree, sounds more like a trigger finger. Never heard of that term either! I'm fortunate, no pain involved.
I'm 66, Dupuytrens on right hand ring finger medically diagnosed at 62. It was pulling the finger inwards at the knuckle joint, lumpy & was quite painful. Went Carnivore the same year, no more carbs, sugar, fructose and after a year the D band had more than halved in size. Has continued to shrink. When stretching my palm and fingers out flat the 'band is almost no longer noticeable. NO medical intervention required and its now almost invisible. Carnivore has also reversed a raft of other health issues i had & proves to me we are what we eat. Cheers from New Zealand 🇳🇿 💚🌏💚
I hope you are also aware of all the negative impacts of carnivore diet on your short term health as well as longevity. Best of luck with this extreme diet.
Just had to add; Same here, after 3 months of BBE & dairy (no sugar or carbs) already my 3rd fingers unjam by themselves, this is such a relief...
Cheers 🦦
@@MarquitoRH Such as?
Good to know. Thanks! 😊
My DC started in my late thirties. By the time I reached my 50s, my ring and middle fingers were raised up, most noticeably when I tried to do pushups. Absolutely no pain; just inconvenience. Since surgery about 8 years ago, there have been no recurring symptoms. There is some scar tissue, but it's hardly noticeable to the sight. And yes, on the Viking angle, my father's side of the family hails from Sweden.
Sounds like you’ve done very well with it considering you were so young when it started. Fingers crossed it stays quiet for you 🤞
Thank you for the explanation. I am of African descent and my Dupuytren condition became noticeable in my 70’s. About 73. I haven’t had a formal diagnosis, but all the symptoms mentioned were present, except nodules or cords don’t seem to be prominent. When the condition made its introduction, I was able to bend fingers (2) on both hands in a downward position and they stayed that way until I straightened them by pulling them up. Today, Only the left middle finger has a slight bend. I use a finger splint and do exercises to keep the finger straighter. Hopefully, there won’t be any greater deterioration since the onset of Dupuytrens’s contracture started in my 70’s.
@@LewisDickeymmmm. Are you sure this is Dupuytren’s? It sounds like trigger finger to me. I’ve done another video on that. It might be worth checking out.
Thank you for a precise short and completely correct explanation. I am a doctor myself.
Thanks v much. Really appreciate feedback from a colleague. Best wishes. Stephen.
Excellent summation of this condition.
Thanks ☺️
Thankyou for the video. I am 30 I have had DC for the last 6 years and it is very painful I can barely do any chores. I am considering the surgery.
Hi. It’s not usually a painful condition. Are you sure it’s DC? If it is then it’s an unusual variant. I would definitely see a hand surgeon if you are struggling with it.
Mine started about 6 years ago too with the nodule lumps. Very painful from the beginning, especially when they seem to be growing. I hopefully will get fasciectomy surgery on my pinkie in the next couple months. I wish you good luck and good health.
Mine is extremely painful , was told by my consultant that is rare to be painful, but is definitely DC. I've always liked to be "not the norm" .😂😂
Mine is painful too
I have it mildly but semi painful in my fingers, but my thumb also. It is very painful in my thumb and causes me issues every day. I hate this disease. I also have it in my feet. I've had it since I was about 21. 48 now. I would also add that one major sign something was wrong is numbness. For me, with my thumb dropping everything is an issue. Hardly any video refer to the thumb.
The palmer fascia can extend into the web space between the thumb and index finger and occasionally into the thumb itself in some people, but its fairly infrequent. I haven't heard of numbness as a symptom of Dupuytrens but I suppose the small nerves in the skin could become irritated. Or you might have a separate problem such as carpal tunnel syndrome.
never thought I had viking genes my mother is so pride of her Valon heritage, very informative thanks.
You’re very welcome
My father, and both of my brothers and now I have Duputrens. One brother has had hand surgery 3 times and it is back again. Surgery on his foot also. We are Irish/ German.
It's a begger trying to put on a glove. Large size gloves are really
Excellent video on this subject. Clear and precise.
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for commenting.
My father's fingers started to curl in his mid 50s with the little finger, ring finger and middle finger curling at various stages between pressed against the palm and moderately bent. He had surgery under general anaesthetic and was in hospital for a couple of days. His fingers remained partially bent for some time before reverting to full contraction such that he could only grip a steering wheel with two fingers and a thumb and at that point he was considered a hopeless case by NHS.
Once a finger is bent into the palm its very difficult to treat and get a good result. In fact ive seen cases where the finger has been amputated as it essentially becomes a useless appendage which just gets in the way.
Im Irish an my mother's ancestry goes all the way back to both the Normans and the Vikings .... she has Duprytrens and ive started developing a bump on a tendon on my hand
Thank you for the explanation. It is now much clearer as are the treatments.
You’re very welcome ☺️
A big help thanks. I'm 70+ plus and the condition is mild so no action. I'm a Scot but - 2% Norwegian DNA apparently.
Let’s hope it stays mild 🤞 Thanks for commenting.
I have it. I think my mother has it, but she won't let me look at her hands. Sometimes she says she has arthritis, but when pressed, she admits her doctor said it was something else. Then she says I am making everything up. My mother has always had her ownversion of reality.
Myself and 3 of my brothers have DD, but none of my sisters, so is it confined to men only? My surname, originally Oda le Arledekin, is of Norman and Viking origin.
@@thomascoady3782 , I'm a woman, I've had it since I was around 50. I think it is from the stress of supporting a family. I was a single mother of four, three with special needs. The doctor told me it only happens to old Irish men. Yes, it was a hand doctor too. He went on to be worse. I no longer go near doctors.
76yr old female here, my dupuytrens started at age 59, 10 operations on both hands various fingers and joints including repeats, now on the NHS list again for three fingers - (repeats), luckily the recovery time is only a few weeks.
In retrospect, they might have been better doing a dermofasciectomy first time round. That might have reduced the number of procedures you ended up having. I hope you get a good result from the next op. Best wishes.
I have Viking Finger! It sucks! And, some of my kids have it now. I've had 5 surgeries and I'm still battling it. I waited too long. If you are of Viking descendant you will get it. See the doc early, or you'll wish you had. Good luck!
Very interesting and the first time I've had a name applied to something that affected my father from quite a young age. I recall his fingers on one hand being quite deformed when he was in his early 50s.
A funny story related to this was when my father was arranging some car maintenance with a friend who was deaf. My father put up all his fingers to indicate he'd be back at ten o'clock the following day. The deaf mechanic interpreted my father's hand signals as half past eight.
Thanks,
Bob
Great story! I can also think of some older people when I was a child, who had this condition but they called it 'segs' and though it was due to hard work.
Yes, my father worked in the mines and was convinced it was caused by digging coal all his life.
Great video very well presented and informative thank you.
I have been applying 70% DMSO and it’s made a massive difference. Nodules have decreased, skin tightness has lessened and I have recovered some flexibility in my ring finger. Hope this helps someone !
Very interesting. I’ve not heard of that being used for Dupuytren’s before. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you, I’ll try it!
My late husband had this. He was a redhead. My Father also had red hair and I have started with this on both hands.
I have this condition in my left hand. It affects my little and middle fingers. I noticed the lumps many years ago. I had no idea what they meant.
I'm 73. The bent fingers are not terribly extreme, but the middle finger is quite bent. I don't really notice it throughout the day during any activity, so I'll probably just live with it. I do know instances where the injection was used and the doctor performed the straightening, but the condition returned with a vengeance.
Yes its definitely best alone if you are managing OK. Treating can sometimes cause it act more aggressively.
Odins Blood! What a great video. I have this condition and will be attending an orthopaedic unit at the local hospital in a few days time. I would say I have an more advanced problem as I can’t lay my palm flat.. if I played a lot of snooker it would be of some use but as I don't these days it’s time to get things sorted. I began to notice these pits in my right hand but this hasn’t advanced a great deal. A pit formed on my left hand a couple of years later and this has progressed to finger bending and I am at the stage of having problems putting my hand in my jeans pockets etc. I also experienced numbing of my finger when I sleep sometimes although not sure that is directly related to this condition.
Numbness is not normally a symptom but its possible that one of small digital nerve has got tied up in your Dupuytren's tissue. I'm sure they will discuss your options with you next week.
My dad was 50% Swedish and he had it really bad. I have 4-5 lumps in my hand but I still have flexibility. I hope it doesn’t get worse.
fingers crossed ! (pardon the pun)
I have the pit type that happens in my seventies on both hands. One hand is a little more than the other hand. Fortunately, it is mildly noticeable. My grandfather on my mother side had it on one hand and probably comes through my father side, too. My father side came trace ancestors back to about 80AD in Scandinavia. Had brown hair and a red beard which is now grey/white.
My brother also has it, we are 98.5 Celtic so Viking must be the rest. My brother has Auburn/red hair but grows a black beard.
I had the Surgical Fasciectomy performed on my left hand about six years ago after the condition was affecting my work as an Airline Pilot. I wore a splint for only a few days after surgery, and performed some mild post operative stretching exercises in combination with some olive oil massage. Extra Virgin of course!
A personal family history DNA check has revealed about 10% Nordic ancestry.
Now, at 67 years old, recovery appears to be almost 100%. Being able to take up a guitar again during the Covid downturn was a real delight for me. This benefit has given my Wife something to "enjoy" during our retirement.
Many thanks for your coverage and succinct explanation.
That sounds like a great surgical result ! Thanks for the feedback. Best wishes. Stephen.
Very useful to know, and answers all my questions. Thank you.
You’re very welcome. Thanks for commenting.
My neighbor and I both same age late 70s-early 80s are descendents from NM onates' colonial Hisp surnamed Spanish. We both have what you described...but she is really bent at right angles on less dominant side of her hand. I am now presenting with D-band on lt side of my palm between little and ring finger...no pain, yet sometimes I wake up with a stiffening of the fingers like trying to "claw." The nodules are very slight on rt hand.
Last year, I fell for the first time and broke my carpals lt hand (fully fell with outstretched hand)..and did not do surgery...the main symptom I had from that was like a "sparking" of electrical pulses for about 5 months, that eventually went away and even more stiffening of the hand at times...but NO pain. I think it's been about 5 years or so that I had first begun to notice the nodules and very minor bands, but still had all mobility.
Thank U for your detailed information and encouragement. My mat gr-grandma had the conditions as u described and my mom n grandma died before age 60. When I wake up unmoveably stiff...I have been and will continue to stretch and press and pull...I will remember to also use a brace as needed.❤
Thanks for your interesting comment. I hope it stays mild and manageable for you.
Best wishes. Stephen.
I always suspected I was a Viking. I did the Ancestry DNA Origins test and discovered I have 7% Germanic, 2% Swedish/Danish and 2% Norwegian DNA. At 63, I now have a small lump in my right hand. Result!
My grandparents are from Czechoslovakia, England and Scotland. I have no idea if they or my parents had the condition but myself and my brother both do. His progressed to surgery my 7-years out has progressed minimally. Funny how it works.
Fingers crossed (pardon the pun) that your stays nice and calm
@@PhysioMSK Thank you.
I have this in both hands. One hand started years ago. The other showed up about 6 months ago. My mother was born in Sweden. I have had what looks like the same thing in the arch of one foot. Is this possible? It’s been there for about twenty years. I’m 78. A hand surgeon told me four years ago that I had Dupuytrens and that jt was a Viking disease and I should call him if the fingers ever started to bend. Your video is much appreciated. I learned a lot more about Dupuytrens. Thank you so much.
You're very welcome. I'm glad it was helpful. The equivalent condition on the foot is called 'ledderhosens disease' or 'plantar fibroma'. It tends to behave differently to Dupuytren's because it doesn't contract and cause bent toes. Because of this, and the fact that only a small proportion of Dupuytren's patient have lumps in the foot, we think its probably an unrelated condition - but cant be sure.
Best wishes. Stephen.