Swiss People like to travel in groups so this is a reason why square seats are so common. Since Swiss trains often chance the direction of travel at some station (Luzern, often Zürich and Bern), this also makes it easier to adopt the direction of travel. The „airplane seat-configuration“ is very uncommon in Swiss trains, although there are some single-decker cars with it. Those cars are marked by a special symbol at the entrance.
I'm so used to SBB square seats, it always feels weird if I see airplane seat-configurations. It also feels more constraint to me. But interesting how we all grew up with different norms in mind.
It's such a good idea to have a childrens' play area on trains, instead of expecting kids to sit quietly for hour after hour. Just give them a spot to play where they aren't disrupting other passengers, and everybody wins.
Yeah we used to have 2 carriages with that stuff back in the 80's and 90's in my country. Then again we also used to have Kiosks onboard back then and now you can't even get a bottle of water on a cross country intercity train here, which btw has incredibly overpriced tickets, especially for the value.
yeah but back when i was so young that i played on these things there were a couple diffrent types of playgrounds (space theme, dinosaur theme, etc. ) and you were always excited which type you're going to get. and now theres just one type, which is a bit dissaponting in my opinion for the kids today.
nah tbh the difference isn't too big, the seats got a new coating some of the interior panels got replaced with the same just in new, the power outlets are no in a different place and the doors now make some beepi noises but in the end its still basecally the same train.
Fun fact: The IC1 is the longest domestic train route in Switzerland. During the day it goes from Geneva Airport to St Gallen. It takes 4h but is Switzerland's longest domestic train.
The reason for the seats in square configurtion is the result of a costumer survey by the SBB CFF FFS. The swiss people wish it so. The Bpmz from 1980 was fallen in critics, while the seats are in bus or airplane configuration.
SBB trains are DA BOOOOOOOOOOOOMB! I went from Paris to Bern last year by train and I boarded the IC at Genève, which followed this exact same route, since the TGV Lyria left me there. Man, I miss those trains. We have nothing like that here in Argentina, only a few trains that won't go nowhere further than 200 kms from the capital city. I strongly recommend you visit Basel SBB as well if you can, wonderful station! Coucou d'Argentine !
@@SimplyRailway hahahaha, well, here in Buenos Aires, the public transport is somewhat decent for a third-world country, but other than that you're left with long-distance buses for most destinations. And of course, planes 😝 the company is called "Trenes Argentinos" if I'm not mistaken. Anyway, if you do come over here and plan to stay in Buenos Aires for a few days, hit me up and I'll show you around 😁
Martín González D. Viendo los trenes de Europa, y después los nuestros, que bajon. Fui de BsAsa Tucumán en el tren, como 26 horas.. creo la máxima fue 70-80km/h. Llegaremos a un nivel como ellos algún día?
I like that you can go through the train on The upper deck without having to go Down the stairs between every wagon!, btw the lok 2000 is just beutiful
I prefer this kind of seating arrangement, if the train is less than half full, each passenger gets more legroom and there is more distance between each passenger. It's also very practical for family and groups.
The power outlets are above the head and if you wanrt to go through a door faster you can just simply put your hand to the sensor which is above your head too. Oh and there are tables coming out of the arm rests.
Airplane seating was tested in thd 90s and Swiss people hated it. Some Einheitswagen IV single level carriages still seated with alternating directions are reminiscent of this experiment.
I like the horizontal 'bench' seating on these trains. You can usually spread and stretch out and just have to move if someone wants to walk by. I sit on the left side of train when doing Geneva to Lausanne - gives a great panoramic view of the lake and mountains. I love the marble at Genève Cornavin as well!
In first class some of the tables are on the side (single seats).. you have to pull them out. SBB is one of the better service you can find in Europe. I always travel using first class and i have nothing to complain. :)
I never travel first class. Those tablets hidden in the seat post to pull out and turn around are (were) in second class aisle seats too. Best way to work with a laptop or read a book across all SBB stock. Most of the time the tables are too far away and also too high up in 2x2 configuration as well as ICN 2x1. Table size is not as important as table position! It's the downside of a long seat pitch. I always choose aisle seats in trains with seat post tables. Someone is always astonished when I produce them seemingly out of nothing. The system has been around forever, I remember thick wooden tablets in older stock (EW3? Not quite sure anymore). Unfortunately, I believe they removed those tables when renovating EW4 stock (seen in the end of the video attached to the IC2000).
Similar concept to Amtrak’s Superliner cars in that entry is from the lower deck, most accommodation is on the top deck as are all inter car connections, although I suspect interior space on the Superliner cars is somewhat more generous due to the larger US loading gauge.
Seat configurations always used to be square. It's airplanes that introduced this other way of seating. Or maybe busses before them. I really prefer it. Gives a great feeling of spaciousness. As long as it's only max 50% full.
on buses and planes it makes sense to have seats in a row configuration because the driving direction never changes (or at least not for like 95% of the journey) but at least in Switzerland trains change direction alot some times throug the journey at some stations (like Bern, Luzern, Zurich, etc.) but they will defenetely change direction if they reach the final destination and go back where they came from
@@quuxjn2452 In japan they have the airplane configuration, but you can turn around the seats as you want, and they are usually turned around by train personal after every travel to face forward.
These trains were leased to DSB in 2000 for the rush hour InterCity services from Fredericia to Copenhagen. I remember people loving them and were sad to see them go.
The new one are a bad. The light is extremly white like in a laboratory and the seating is bad. They could have made more seats and not so wide spaces between the seats and also the seats are just wood with some leather, it's juts nothing compared to the old one
I grew up in switzerland, and when i went to a other country it was strange with airplane configuration. I think the square configuration has more space, and is better for groupes, often when you travel alone, you never sit next to one, but in front.
I suggest you do this ride in full lenght as you really seem to like these double floor carriages! This route would take you from Geneva Airport to St. Gallen for a total travel time of 4 hours and 3 minutes! You don‘t wanna miss that! However, it is never really predictable wether your train will be a double floor one or a single floor one with the same carriages than at the end at 7:20. Trust me you wanna do this with a double floor because it‘s more comfy and more quiet! And by the way, I live in Lausanne so I wanna salute you!🙋♂️
I think one of the most funny and strange feature of swiss train are, that sometimes they add so called modules to the very long base configuration for extended capacity on some routes or times as you can see in 7:11. A module consists of another set of 3 or 4 single deck wagons with a driving cab - and as the train gets too heavy for some planned accelerations or steep climbs, they even add another loco. And the reviewed train is a double traction with one loco at each end of the train. I think the weirdest configuration I saw was a normal set of IC2000, an additional loco in the middle, a module and another loco at the end. A triple traction in passenger traffic!
At this time is possible. The train departure as showed, is setted 8.42 pm ( 20.42). That means that the arrival station MUST be reached until maximum 0:30 am. During the night no one passager train travels, from this time. The tracks are reserved for the cargo trains crossing the country from North to South or opposite ( Basel - Chiasso). Basel is ingoing point for cargo trains coming from Hamburg to Italy and Chiasso end point.
I live in Switzerland. And i personally really don’t like those trains. Just because there are even better, cleaner and newer ones. Were so used to great train network and never recognize it! This video did made me realize how lucky we are to have this great train system! PS: those trains are being replaced at the moment because there getting old(for swiss standards)
These passenger cars almost seem like a European version of a Superliner. In which you enter on one level, with another right above you. I'm more used to European bilevels having the "Multilevel" outline where there's a "Midlevel" for boarding and steps to access the upper and lower levels in the middle of the car
IC1 is number of line(Geneva - Bern - Zurich - St. Gallen), number of your train is IC737(Geneva - Zurich), check www.reisezuege.ch/reisezuege/index.php?action=5&znummer=-1 or fahrplan.sbb.ch/bin/trainsearch.exe/dn?ld=std3.a& or www.fahrplanfelder.ch/de/ortsverzeichnis.html
Personnellement je prends souvent le train entre la haute Savoie et l’Alsace via la suisse ! Rapide et moins cher que le tgv si on a le demi tarif suisse, ça m’évite les détour par Lyon. Et le service est toujours au top? Je ne trouve rien à redire. Les sièges paraissent durs mais en vrai je les trouve confortables quand même. Pour les tablettes, on peut en trouver souvent dans l’accoudoir dur siège côté couloir 😇 mais je ne sais pas pourquoi, les suisses adorent les configurations en carré. Le seul truc qui m’embête et l’emplacement des prises, mais elles ont le bénéfice d’être présentes à chaque rangée de siège au moins. Franchement ça vaut la peine et les panoramas sont incroyables 👌
Wide platforms and stairs are also a major safety feature, particularly in an emergency. People don't accidentally fall onto tracks, and if they need to get out of the station in a hurry, there is no danger of a horrible crush incident--usually FAR more deadly than any perceived threat.
Great report ! That was a really sharp looking train! Liked the cafe/dining car! The train was really quite at speed!? There didn't seem to be that cattle car feel of the "Quigo " trains in France. Thanks for sharing !!! :):):)
Les sièges sont toujours en carré pour favorisé les échanges entre passager apparemment. Il y a une explication sur le site des cff mais je ne la retrouve plus.
You totally missed the location of the door sensors. They are above the doors. You need to waive at them :-) Look how all the people who are familiar with these trains do it - they are pretty uniform in all SBB rolling stock.
Kind sir, thanks for the showing around! I normally travel with (folding) bike so I'm always looking where i can store my bike 😅 maybe you can show bike space next time? Thanks very much for video, you got a new subscriber 👍
Merci pour ce trip report. C'est fou de voir que les "étrangers" adorent les CFF, alors que les Suisses ne font que de s'en plaindre (prix, retards, incidents techniques, fréquences ect.) ^^
It's actually great in practice imo. feels way more roomier than airline style and unless it's busy you won't ever think about seat pitch and that stuff. also great for larger parties if you can have four or eight people talk to each other with ease. apparently sbb had a few cars with airline style in the eighties or so and people hated them. can't say I disagree, having grown up with this style, planes and foreign trains feel so cramped. another thing is that the window seats have easier access to the aisle as there's usually a few inches between knees, so you don't feel that bad when the others just put their knees away for a few secs instead of potentially having to stand up.
The interior of the IC2000 is so 90's ish... I actually prefer the old configuration over the IC2020 refurbishment, because it makes me feel kinda nostalgic.
Found it a bit odd how you didnt mention how comfortable the ride is. Whenever I ride this train i can barely tell I'm moving unless I look out the window...
Superbe vidéo, les trains Suisses sont bien mais cher, Genève-lausanne c'est l'équivalent d'une traversée de la région parisienne pour le prix. Dans la plupart des trains Suisses, il n'y a quasiment que des carrés. Et comme tout le monde veut avoir une fenêtre et à côté de personnes, la moitié des places sont libres !
Merci :) En effet je trouve ça dommage les sièges en carré. Néanmoins le prix est justifié au vue de la qualité du service, le personnel est vraiment à l'écoute du client, souriant et aimable. J'ai été systématiquement controlé lors de mes voyages. Ce qui devrait être le cas en France. Les prestations de services comme le bar/restaurant, propreté générale du train, l'espace enfant, la ponctualité et la qualité du matériel font que le prix est largement justifié. Après cela reste un avis personnel :)
@@SimplyRailway Tout ce que tu dis est bien vrai, pour ma part, à chaque fois que j'ai pris le train en Suisse, je n'ai jamais été contrôlé et jamais vu le contrôleur. Après c'était des RE, la Suisse est bien pour ses trains mais les tarfis restents selon moi plutôt onéreux par rapport au TGV à 15€ en France. Après l'avantage c'est que le tarifs est valable tout le temps.
Staircases on the train very wide, too! I hate to sound dour, but again, in the event of an emergency, passengers are much safer if they have to evacuate the train in a hurry. I think you've seen the tiny, steep, winding stairs on Amtrak superliners. If anything happens, well, you're just pretty much doomed.😳
la config est toujours carrée c'est une traditions chez les CFF. Perso je comprends pas trop je préfère une place en file avec plus d'espace pour les jambes à une place en carré même si c'est sur le trumeau.
@@SimplyRailway Yeah, true! By the way, the Re460 locomotive is the ' ancestor ' of the IR class WAP5 locomotive (the locomotive in my profile picture). The ES64U Taurus Vmax is an awesome locomotive as well.
Super vidéo par contre il y a deux choses qui me choquent : 1 le prix de la bouteille et du chocolat 6,17€ c'est vraiment cher pour moi : 2 le sweat Golden State Warriors tu peux l'enlever lol. Merci pour ces vidéos j'adore. Salut
Ahah, Oui 6,17€ cela reste cher pour nous Français, après on est en Suisse et dans un train, cela ne me choque pas tant que ca, en France dans un TGV c'est 5€ Pour GSW, je ne dirais rien :)))))))
I mean smoking is also illegal on Danish train stations but it's not enforced because putting guards at the station would mean paying people and let's just say the state railways here doesn't like to pay for more than the bare minimum when it comes to service.
About that, the latest new rule (december 2019 I think) on smoking in switzerland stations is that you have to be in 2 meters around those huge ashtrays (the one you see next to the bin in this video). The other parts of the platflorm are no-smoking areas. I think it's great, and people seem to respect it : space for everyone !
It's 9pm. these trains are actually quite cramped on certain parts (Zurich-Berne is where I always notice) and they don't have enough turnaround time to get rid of overcapacity. The IC1 is actually more on the profitable side, but then again, we swiss pay a lot in order to have great trains (some CHF 350 / year in tax funding iirc). That should fund some overcapacity. And our rail capacity is getting at limits where any increase in service means major construction, so just running trains with as much capacity as possible is a lot easier but kinda feels like a band-aid on a breaking dam
Because since the upper deck continues, that’s pretty much impossible because it gets blocked by the wheels since the lower deck is almost as low as the ground
some of your comments are really crazy :) "how do people work in 1st class?" well, it's a commuter train (I guess...) so - if you commute to your workplace, you work there - simply: because you get paid for the time spent at work! how about chilling out? getting some rest? read a book? do whatever...? :D another thing - space issue. people designed and developed double decker trains for their CAPACITY...!! :D
If you say Zurich in the Video, you should also call it Geneva not Geneve. If you decide you want the names in the video be the original names of the city, you should have used Zürich for Zurich in this video.
C'est quand on voit le niveau des autres pays européens qu'on se rend compte que la SNCF est loooin d'être parfaite 😂😊 When we see the level of european countries around us, we realize that SNCF is not perfect at all 😂 big work to do 😂
In switzerland, we have a ticket (Halbtax-Abonnement), which many of us have if you use the train only sometimes to visit your familiy. That makes the tickets only cost half of the price.
Dear simply railway. I watched your video. You can not compare France with Switzerland. Switzerland surface is 41.280 km² and France 643.800. So shure everything is cleaned there. But for example in Switzerland men retire at age of 65, and in France I retired at 55. So not everything is better in Switzerland !
Swiss People like to travel in groups so this is a reason why square seats are so common. Since Swiss trains often chance the direction of travel at some station (Luzern, often Zürich and Bern), this also makes it easier to adopt the direction of travel. The „airplane seat-configuration“ is very uncommon in Swiss trains, although there are some single-decker cars with it. Those cars are marked by a special symbol at the entrance.
Did you guys know that these coaches have tables for all the seats with some of them folded into the armrests.
I'm so used to SBB square seats, it always feels weird if I see airplane seat-configurations. It also feels more constraint to me. But interesting how we all grew up with different norms in mind.
me too i live in switzerland
It's such a good idea to have a childrens' play area on trains, instead of expecting kids to sit quietly for hour after hour. Just give them a spot to play where they aren't disrupting other passengers, and everybody wins.
Yeah we used to have 2 carriages with that stuff back in the 80's and 90's in my country. Then again we also used to have Kiosks onboard back then and now you can't even get a bottle of water on a cross country intercity train here, which btw has incredibly overpriced tickets, especially for the value.
I mean when I was a kid, I’d just stare out the window. Still do sometimes. Riding a train is honestly entertaining in and of itself to me.
@@Ostermond
Same here!
The new Bombardier double-decker' play area is a joke comparing to this one
yeah but back when i was so young that i played on these things there were a couple diffrent types of playgrounds (space theme, dinosaur theme, etc. ) and you were always excited which type you're going to get. and now theres just one type, which is a bit dissaponting in my opinion for the kids today.
Power outlets are above your head
yup, that's weird.
Was looking for this comment
these IC2000 wagons are being renovated. You will have to take them back! 😉
nah tbh the difference isn't too big, the seats got a new coating some of the interior panels got replaced with the same just in new, the power outlets are no in a different place and the doors now make some beepi noises but in the end its still basecally the same train.
Fun fact: The IC1 is the longest domestic train route in Switzerland. During the day it goes from Geneva Airport to St Gallen. It takes 4h but is Switzerland's longest domestic train.
ok yeah but in 2o5o Geneva Airport-Bern-Zurich Hb-Konstanz (DE)
3:48 most people just wave their hand near the top of the doors to open them
The reason for the seats in square configurtion is the result of a costumer survey by the SBB CFF FFS. The swiss people wish it so. The Bpmz from 1980 was fallen in critics, while the seats are in bus or airplane configuration.
SBB trains are DA BOOOOOOOOOOOOMB! I went from Paris to Bern last year by train and I boarded the IC at Genève, which followed this exact same route, since the TGV Lyria left me there. Man, I miss those trains. We have nothing like that here in Argentina, only a few trains that won't go nowhere further than 200 kms from the capital city. I strongly recommend you visit Basel SBB as well if you can, wonderful station!
Coucou d'Argentine !
Really ? I plan to go in Argentina in September for few months. What is the name of the railway company ?
@@SimplyRailway hahahaha, well, here in Buenos Aires, the public transport is somewhat decent for a third-world country, but other than that you're left with long-distance buses for most destinations. And of course, planes 😝 the company is called "Trenes Argentinos" if I'm not mistaken. Anyway, if you do come over here and plan to stay in Buenos Aires for a few days, hit me up and I'll show you around 😁
Martín González D. Viendo los trenes de Europa, y después los nuestros, que bajon. Fui de BsAsa Tucumán en el tren, como 26 horas.. creo la máxima fue 70-80km/h. Llegaremos a un nivel como ellos algún día?
I like that you can go through the train on The upper deck without having to go Down the stairs between every wagon!, btw the lok 2000 is just beutiful
That's not the case in S-Bahn trains (regional trains).
Bit if you are downstairs you have du go upstairs to go to the other wagon.
@@Leenapanther they are also not IC2000 trains. This is a huge difference
I prefer this kind of seating arrangement, if the train is less than half full, each passenger gets more legroom and there is more distance between each passenger. It's also very practical for family and groups.
The power outlets are above the head and if you wanrt to go through a door faster you can just simply put your hand to the sensor which is above your head too. Oh and there are tables coming out of the arm rests.
Airplane seating was tested in thd 90s and Swiss people hated it. Some Einheitswagen IV single level carriages still seated with alternating directions are reminiscent of this experiment.
I like the horizontal 'bench' seating on these trains. You can usually spread and stretch out and just have to move if someone wants to walk by. I sit on the left side of train when doing Geneva to Lausanne - gives a great panoramic view of the lake and mountains.
I love the marble at Genève Cornavin as well!
Many nice places to hike around in the near. Rivaz, Chexbres, St-Saphorin. Travelling through Switzerland with a rail pass is always a good idea.
In first class some of the tables are on the side (single seats).. you have to pull them out. SBB is one of the better service you can find in Europe. I always travel using first class and i have nothing to complain. :)
Bravo! Such a rich guy! Life works so well for you!
I never travel first class. Those tablets hidden in the seat post to pull out and turn around are (were) in second class aisle seats too. Best way to work with a laptop or read a book across all SBB stock. Most of the time the tables are too far away and also too high up in 2x2 configuration as well as ICN 2x1. Table size is not as important as table position! It's the downside of a long seat pitch. I always choose aisle seats in trains with seat post tables. Someone is always astonished when I produce them seemingly out of nothing. The system has been around forever, I remember thick wooden tablets in older stock (EW3? Not quite sure anymore). Unfortunately, I believe they removed those tables when renovating EW4 stock (seen in the end of the video attached to the IC2000).
Similar concept to Amtrak’s Superliner cars in that entry is from the lower deck, most accommodation is on the top deck as are all inter car connections, although I suspect interior space on the Superliner cars is somewhat more generous due to the larger US loading gauge.
Seat configurations always used to be square. It's airplanes that introduced this other way of seating. Or maybe busses before them. I really prefer it. Gives a great feeling of spaciousness. As long as it's only max 50% full.
on buses and planes it makes sense to have seats in a row configuration because the driving direction never changes (or at least not for like 95% of the journey) but at least in Switzerland trains change direction alot some times throug the journey at some stations (like Bern, Luzern, Zurich, etc.) but they will defenetely change direction if they reach the final destination and go back where they came from
@@quuxjn2452 In japan they have the airplane configuration, but you can turn around the seats as you want, and they are usually turned around by train personal after every travel to face forward.
Extra points for young man with bouquet of roses!
These trains were leased to DSB in 2000 for the rush hour InterCity services from Fredericia to Copenhagen. I remember people loving them and were sad to see them go.
I didn't know that they were allow in other countryes aswell, i've never seen them outside Switzerland (and I travel by train alot)
Interesting
Love thise double decker ICs from SBB
The new one are a bad. The light is extremly white like in a laboratory and the seating is bad. They could have made more seats and not so wide spaces between the seats and also the seats are just wood with some leather, it's juts nothing compared to the old one
I'm really digging the vibe of the coaches, they feel so lively
I grew up in switzerland, and when i went to a other country it was strange with airplane configuration. I think the square configuration has more space, and is better for groupes, often when you travel alone, you never sit next to one, but in front.
Some of their IC2000 had been refurbished and put in service already, those refurbished set are called IC2020.
Nice video. I really like Lausanne too. It’s lovely
Wow. How nice you traveled from my city. I love train journey and enjoy your vlogs. Be blessed.🙏🏼😌
I can only say 'much better than expected'. Amazing
I suggest you do this ride in full lenght as you really seem to like these double floor carriages! This route would take you from Geneva Airport to St. Gallen for a total travel time of 4 hours and 3 minutes! You don‘t wanna miss that! However, it is never really predictable wether your train will be a double floor one or a single floor one with the same carriages than at the end at 7:20. Trust me you wanna do this with a double floor because it‘s more comfy and more quiet! And by the way, I live in Lausanne so I wanna salute you!🙋♂️
I think one of the most funny and strange feature of swiss train are, that sometimes they add so called modules to the very long base configuration for extended capacity on some routes or times as you can see in 7:11. A module consists of another set of 3 or 4 single deck wagons with a driving cab - and as the train gets too heavy for some planned accelerations or steep climbs, they even add another loco. And the reviewed train is a double traction with one loco at each end of the train. I think the weirdest configuration I saw was a normal set of IC2000, an additional loco in the middle, a module and another loco at the end.
A triple traction in passenger traffic!
At this time is possible. The train departure as showed, is setted 8.42 pm ( 20.42). That means that the arrival station MUST be reached until maximum 0:30 am. During the night no one passager train travels, from this time. The tracks are reserved for the cargo trains crossing the country from North to South or opposite ( Basel - Chiasso). Basel is ingoing point for cargo trains coming from Hamburg to Italy and Chiasso end point.
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I live in Switzerland. And i personally really don’t like those trains. Just because there are even better, cleaner and newer ones. Were so used to great train network and never recognize it! This video did made me realize how lucky we are to have this great train system!
PS: those trains are being replaced at the moment because there getting old(for swiss standards)
These passenger cars almost seem like a European version of a Superliner. In which you enter on one level, with another right above you. I'm more used to European bilevels having the "Multilevel" outline where there's a "Midlevel" for boarding and steps to access the upper and lower levels in the middle of the car
Uf you wanna try it on a longer ride with beautiful scenery, try the route from Zürich - Chur ;)
but on this route there are EW IV, FV Dosto, ICE 4 used as well, you might have to wait a couple trains till you have an IC2000
Pour info, sur les sieges coté couloir, tu as des tablettes pour poser ton ordi ou autre :), il suffit de tirer et deplier
Damir Daki alors moi j’étais pas au courant
Simply superb ❤️👌🏼 nice country ❤️ nice trains❤️
IC1 is number of line(Geneva - Bern - Zurich - St. Gallen), number of your train is IC737(Geneva - Zurich), check www.reisezuege.ch/reisezuege/index.php?action=5&znummer=-1 or fahrplan.sbb.ch/bin/trainsearch.exe/dn?ld=std3.a& or www.fahrplanfelder.ch/de/ortsverzeichnis.html
Personnellement je prends souvent le train entre la haute Savoie et l’Alsace via la suisse ! Rapide et moins cher que le tgv si on a le demi tarif suisse, ça m’évite les détour par Lyon. Et le service est toujours au top? Je ne trouve rien à redire. Les sièges paraissent durs mais en vrai je les trouve confortables quand même. Pour les tablettes, on peut en trouver souvent dans l’accoudoir dur siège côté couloir 😇 mais je ne sais pas pourquoi, les suisses adorent les configurations en carré. Le seul truc qui m’embête et l’emplacement des prises, mais elles ont le bénéfice d’être présentes à chaque rangée de siège au moins. Franchement ça vaut la peine et les panoramas sont incroyables 👌
Cool tu prends quoi comme train un ic2000 ou une RADBe 500
Thierry Mohmo le plus souvent RADBe 500 car IC pendulaire via le pied du juras, mais ça m’arrive d’être sur les IC2000 aussi
Si jamais pour les portes il y’a un capteur en haut et faut mettre ta main dessous
D'ailleurs c'est un peu de la merde car ils sont jamais bien réglés.
C’est cool de croiser quelques français sur des vidéo anglaise.
@@EliasSchmid00 Non, j'ai travaillé 10 ans aux CFF dans la tachnique et j'ai constaté que ces capteurs infrarouge n'étaient jamais bien réglés.
Wide platforms and stairs are also a major safety feature, particularly in an emergency. People don't accidentally fall onto tracks, and if they need to get out of the station in a hurry, there is no danger of a horrible crush incident--usually FAR more deadly than any perceived threat.
Great report ! That was a really sharp looking train! Liked the cafe/dining car! The train was really quite at speed!?
There didn't seem to be that cattle car feel of the "Quigo " trains in France.
Thanks for sharing !!! :):):)
140km/h - 160km/h ;) the main advantage of non-automotive stock
Les sièges sont toujours en carré pour favorisé les échanges entre passager apparemment. Il y a une explication sur le site des cff mais je ne la retrouve plus.
Power out let's are above your head look at the huge stairs. Many french stations like Lyon part dieu or Lille Europe should be inspired.
The sensor is usually on the upper part of the door :)
You totally missed the location of the door sensors. They are above the doors. You need to waive at them :-) Look how all the people who are familiar with these trains do it - they are pretty uniform in all SBB rolling stock.
Kind sir, thanks for the showing around!
I normally travel with (folding) bike so I'm always looking where i can store my bike 😅 maybe you can show bike space next time?
Thanks very much for video, you got a new subscriber 👍
Nice video 😊
Merci pour ce trip report. C'est fou de voir que les "étrangers" adorent les CFF, alors que les Suisses ne font que de s'en plaindre (prix, retards, incidents techniques, fréquences ect.) ^^
Lol
Mais c’est la première fois que il prend les CFF quand tu le prend souvent tu te rends compte des problèmes des train de chez nous.
Avec l'habitude, on ne se rend plus compte de la chance qu'on a. Mais il suffit de prendre un train de la SNCF et boum, les CFF nous manquent! 😅
This is some good asmr right here
In Sweden it is a nice double decker train called "Mälartåg". They are very nice train. Can you do a trip report about them?
You need to try the RABe 502 duplexx!!
I enjoy the general facilities and decor of the train, but those seats and seat layouts would drive me crazy.
It's actually great in practice imo. feels way more roomier than airline style and unless it's busy you won't ever think about seat pitch and that stuff. also great for larger parties if you can have four or eight people talk to each other with ease.
apparently sbb had a few cars with airline style in the eighties or so and people hated them. can't say I disagree, having grown up with this style, planes and foreign trains feel so cramped. another thing is that the window seats have easier access to the aisle as there's usually a few inches between knees, so you don't feel that bad when the others just put their knees away for a few secs instead of potentially having to stand up.
The seats are often very hard in SBB trains. Especially in Flirt and Domino trains. Still comfortable but i would prefer them a bit softer.
The interior of the IC2000 is so 90's ish... I actually prefer the old configuration over the IC2020 refurbishment, because it makes me feel kinda nostalgic.
Found it a bit odd how you didnt mention how comfortable the ride is. Whenever I ride this train i can barely tell I'm moving unless I look out the window...
Superbe ! Un bon train comme on n'en fait plus
those IC 2000 stocks looks like they are built on the same cauldron as the duplex TGV
Superbe vidéo, les trains Suisses sont bien mais cher, Genève-lausanne c'est l'équivalent d'une traversée de la région parisienne pour le prix. Dans la plupart des trains Suisses, il n'y a quasiment que des carrés. Et comme tout le monde veut avoir une fenêtre et à côté de personnes, la moitié des places sont libres !
Merci :) En effet je trouve ça dommage les sièges en carré. Néanmoins le prix est justifié au vue de la qualité du service, le personnel est vraiment à l'écoute du client, souriant et aimable. J'ai été systématiquement controlé lors de mes voyages. Ce qui devrait être le cas en France. Les prestations de services comme le bar/restaurant, propreté générale du train, l'espace enfant, la ponctualité et la qualité du matériel font que le prix est largement justifié.
Après cela reste un avis personnel :)
@@SimplyRailway Tout ce que tu dis est bien vrai, pour ma part, à chaque fois que j'ai pris le train en Suisse, je n'ai jamais été contrôlé et jamais vu le contrôleur. Après c'était des RE, la Suisse est bien pour ses trains mais les tarfis restents selon moi plutôt onéreux par rapport au TGV à 15€ en France. Après l'avantage c'est que le tarifs est valable tout le temps.
I caught an IC2000 with 4 locomotives and 16 carriages (!)
So in the Children Coach is no Poweroutlet. But in any other wagon above your head.
No every coaches have power outlet, I haven't seen at the beginning
5:17 woah! unexpected
Staircases on the train very wide, too! I hate to sound dour, but again, in the event of an emergency, passengers are much safer if they have to evacuate the train in a hurry. I think you've seen the tiny, steep, winding stairs on Amtrak superliners. If anything happens, well, you're just pretty much doomed.😳
la config est toujours carrée c'est une traditions chez les CFF. Perso je comprends pas trop je préfère une place en file avec plus d'espace pour les jambes à une place en carré même si c'est sur le trumeau.
Nice review by you again. I, personally, am a big fan of the Re460 locomotive.
Yes me too, one of the most beautiful engine in Europe these days
Re 460 AKA Lok 2000
I love the WAP P5 even more
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Interestingly, The WAP5 locomotive is a direct descendant of the Re460 locomotive.
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Yeah, true! By the way, the Re460 locomotive is the ' ancestor ' of the IR class WAP5 locomotive (the locomotive in my profile picture). The ES64U Taurus Vmax is an awesome locomotive as well.
Intrestingly, I live near Lausanne!
Nice video ! :)
That's my favorite one
Super vidéo par contre il y a deux choses qui me choquent : 1 le prix de la bouteille et du chocolat 6,17€ c'est vraiment cher pour moi : 2 le sweat Golden State Warriors tu peux l'enlever lol. Merci pour ces vidéos j'adore. Salut
Ahah, Oui 6,17€ cela reste cher pour nous Français, après on est en Suisse et dans un train, cela ne me choque pas tant que ca, en France dans un TGV c'est 5€
Pour GSW, je ne dirais rien :)))))))
Simply Railway ha alors tu parlais français donc je n’ai pas besoin de commenter tes vidéos en anglais ?
Nice
But it is nationally not internationally
Very short distance for a trip
What do you mean the configuration is always square?
The seats
Culture is: traveling on the train, working in the office ...
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How long are the trains
It depends on what route
Why where there sofas on the train
Those are group spaces, mostly occupied by students traveling in small groups or families.
The Stickers are here that people cant make Graffiti in the Toilett
Always amazed in Europe how you can smoke on the platforms. In the UK smoking and vaping is strictly banned and you can be punished for it
I thought UK is part of Europe? 😲
I mean smoking is also illegal on Danish train stations but it's not enforced because putting guards at the station would mean paying people and let's just say the state railways here doesn't like to pay for more than the bare minimum when it comes to service.
Smoking is illegal on train stations, but no one cares wich really annoys me
About that, the latest new rule (december 2019 I think) on smoking in switzerland stations is that you have to be in 2 meters around those huge ashtrays (the one you see next to the bin in this video). The other parts of the platflorm are no-smoking areas. I think it's great, and people seem to respect it : space for everyone !
@@shunjike7 Don't tell them that. They're still oblivious to that fact 🤣
So few passengers! A mostly empty train would lose money, so even if it is loved, you can't blame the railroad if they decide to discontinue it.
It is 9 pm at night
Geneva-Lausanne is the second busiest line in Switzerland (second to Zürich-Bern). It‘s 9 pm in the evening as the user before me has alteady stated.
It's 9pm. these trains are actually quite cramped on certain parts (Zurich-Berne is where I always notice) and they don't have enough turnaround time to get rid of overcapacity. The IC1 is actually more on the profitable side, but then again, we swiss pay a lot in order to have great trains (some CHF 350 / year in tax funding iirc). That should fund some overcapacity. And our rail capacity is getting at limits where any increase in service means major construction, so just running trains with as much capacity as possible is a lot easier but kinda feels like a band-aid on a breaking dam
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It’s toilets time not toilets times at 5:08
Kinda odd how the lower decks aren’t joined I thought.
Because since the upper deck continues, that’s pretty much impossible because it gets blocked by the wheels since the lower deck is almost as low as the ground
There are outlets
some of your comments are really crazy :) "how do people work in 1st class?" well, it's a commuter train (I guess...) so - if you commute to your workplace, you work there - simply: because you get paid for the time spent at work! how about chilling out? getting some rest? read a book? do whatever...? :D another thing - space issue. people designed and developed double decker trains for their CAPACITY...!! :D
Smart not to film the kids playing, could be misinterpreted!
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Punctuality
Only vis-à-vis seats = no legroom. Terrible for long journeys.
TGV 10 X 4 FIRST CLASSE AVION
If you say Zurich in the Video, you should also call it Geneva not Geneve. If you decide you want the names in the video be the original names of the city, you should have used Zürich for Zurich in this video.
C'est quand on voit le niveau des autres pays européens qu'on se rend compte que la SNCF est loooin d'être parfaite 😂😊
When we see the level of european countries around us, we realize that SNCF is not perfect at all 😂 big work to do 😂
Das war ja
Pourquoi cest en anglais? Je suis anglais et c'est cool. mais tu es français? Ou Belgique? Je ne sais pas. Mon français cest merde 😂😂😂
Français :)
@@SimplyRailway ah! 😊 je aimé le aliment et transport français :D
NSE 465 tu utilises google traduction ?
You hahe too tables in the armrests.
Looks nice indeed.... BUT the price is awful when you think it is only 60 km away.
In switzerland, we have a ticket (Halbtax-Abonnement), which many of us have if you use the train only sometimes to visit your familiy. That makes the tickets only cost half of the price.
Zurich-geneva 120CHF a normal ticket
SUSCRIBE!?
It shoupd be lasagnia and not lausanne
Dear simply railway. I watched your video. You can not compare France with Switzerland. Switzerland surface is 41.280 km² and France 643.800. So shure everything is cleaned there. But for example in Switzerland men retire at age of 65, and in France I retired at 55. So not everything is better in Switzerland !
You're not the sharpest tool in the shed are you?