That guy got permanently banned. Actually he was already banned from LFM on February 22 and made a second account. After the incident with Rory the LFM stewards have banned him again for unsportsmanlike conduct and for making the second account.
It takes a special kind of immaturity to target someone even after they've let you retake a place. I always imagine these people are young angry teenagers just to keep my own faith in humanity.
For an “E Sports” driver, and I’m using that term. very loosely, he drove like sh#te from the very start. Saying that, people like Rory, Super GT, Kie25 etc., in my opinion, do have a target on their backs as it will allow said immature individuals, their 10 to 20 minutes of “fame” by playing rough once they realise it races are streamed……Kimi Velocini is one that comes to mind.
@@carlkalman5479 kie25 is one of those immature people were talking about lmfao it's not just teenager's/kid's its overgrown manchirdren as well like kie
I’m impressed by your attitude, Rory. You could have easily taken revenge, but you took the high road. That’s a reflection of your character and integrity. Keep it up, brother.
I think he may have recognized you as a content creator. This was his way of gaining notoriety. Sorry you were trolled. Keep on making great content. I enjoy watching your channel and have been for quite some time. Your mental focus over the years has improved immensely. You don’t let these things phase you. Keep up the good work.
Acc has definitely taught me anger management lol I've only had a wheel for a few months and I'm a bit off the pace (like 10 seconds) but if I get angry I try to drive very aggressively and can't keep the car on the track. Although sometimes I'll just go to Forza and and drive the racing semi and just start ramming cars 😂
Met this guy like a week ago on a public server. Anyone who got close to him during the first lap, he deliberately crashed into and sent off the track.
That was just horrendous behavior from anyone, let alone an eSports driver. This person went out of their way, letting others easily pass and braking just so Rory would be close enough, again, for them to literally wreck his car. I hope you were not the only one who reported that person
Yeah, I'd say this one warrants a report. I can imagine this one didn't feel nice at all. Seemed frustrating to say the least and that was in the earlier part where you had more speed but couldn't really get an overtake done due to damage. And then the carnage with the esports driver was yet to begin 😱Let's just hope the report has some success and you move on.
He started well, his initial dive bomb into the hairpin was textbook, and on the exit he was probs stuck in 8 tc for a while and you hit him which is completely on you but you let him by respectfully, from then on his actions were disgusting.
Agreed, you can tell Rory had lost his composure with about ten minutes left, plain to see with the constant lip biting and nervous smile. The first half of the race as you say, was great! The other guys actions were disgusting
@@karlsmith8113 okay, the dive bomb was on Rory, then. This came up on my recommended feed, and I’m new to sim racing, so I’m still learning to recognize good and bad lines and such. I was actually super impressed with the dive bomb by the other guy, and wasn’t initially sure if the first hairpin was on Rory or not because the lunge was clean, and overtake was clean, but I didn’t know if maybe the guy not having power to accelerate on the exit was perhaps bad on the other guy, or a simple mistake, or what. However, almost everything I saw afterwards was on the BMW driver. That guy was absolutely targeting Rory. There is one more moment I’d love to learn about, though. The first time Rory and BMW go through the chicane, the BMW drove wide through the left hand turn, then slowly meandered back across the track to the left. Rory was headed to the outside of the upcoming chicane as well. However, I can’t tell if Rory has the space to cut inside when he does, and the BMW cuts inside at the same time after having gone from outside right to outside left of the track. Did Rory have the space to make that move? Was the other guy only cutting in to cut Rory off? Was it a combination of the two? Outside of that incident, everything else I saw was on the BMW. The one incident with the white car that clips Rory on the side I don’t even think was on him, as he already seemed like he was outside enough on that part that the white car would have had space on the inside to at least avoid contact. That said, I don’t think it was necessarily bad intent on the white car, just a mistake. I think the only reason Rory said he didn’t know where cars were coming from, there, was that he was already flustered from dealing with the BMW, and was so focused on not getting upset, and trying to make a clean pass, that he wasn’t expecting any contact on what should have otherwise been a clean corner.
Can I ask you say the Dive bomb was on Rory but while I agree going down the inside Is a race move the part I struggle with dive bombing just because the person forces there car there in the inside if they practically bring there car to a stand still surely they haven't made the move stick if you pull the Dive bomb off and carry some speed then fair enough. But why should the other driver have to yield space to the much slower car because the driver over pushed am I reading it wrong
This guy doesn't deserve to be in a public lobby let alone LFM or god forbid an esports league. He should be a ban on sight guy, this kind of driving is despicable.
I dont know about that first situation earlier. He got a bad exit but Rory crashed into him... i dont know how that would be handled with the rules. 10:46 that was on Rory in my opinion. If I would be the BMW driver, I wouldnt have not expected that Rory would go for that move/dive and try to overtake. So, the BMW didnt even had a chance or time to give him space while turning in to that corner.
Yep, Rory had no rights to the corner as he completely overshot the corner and missed his braking point as well as not fully holding the brakes but instead trailing. That's what we call a divebomb.
This guy has his own channel with 166 subs, last upload was 2 weeks ago. Guess he looked you up, got all frustrated and decided to take you out. In the end the only thing he has taken out was himself.
That deranged guy was purposely slowing down and waiting for you to Ram you into the guardrails and that last time when your car was disabled. He was letting everyone by except you. He was definitely pissed off about something, and decided to take revenge on you the rest of the race until the final incident disabling your car. He should be reported and banned or suspended for his actions. He wasn't even trying to race, just after you. thanks for the video.
TBF the hit in the hairpin was your fault u couldve lifted the gas again imo if u are smart , like always count on the fault from others. 2nd the divebomb from him was his mistake bc he was with slipstream too late on the brakes so obviously he is slow in that corner and exit ;) . 3rd: the 2nd divebomb at last chicane couldve been seen from miles away so another smart move you couldve done is leave the door open and take over at the exit of chicane. and the pushing oftrack from him at start finish line couldve been avoided too from u just lift gas and steer left . and tbh u divebombed him in last chicane at 10:47 in the race too bc u lifted the brakes 1 time so u were in some cases at fault too. i am not justifying his bad driving , cause he DID drive bad and made alot mistakes, BUT you couldve driven smarter and avoided alot of that and did some mistakes too. i do agree with some here that he should get a hefty penalty for driving recless but you did some mistakes too and couldve avoided alot. anyway nice video
He's not an actual 'esports' whatever , its just a team of his and his mates ( just search simgrid rgt esports) Report , include replay , timestamps , and the message , and if anyone else has had incidents with him , report , get people like this out of LFM
why did i get recommended a video in which a guy gets given the outside lane, dives to the inside (which is fine) the car moving to the right keeps moving to the right. dude from behind sticks it inside when the lane had closed. gets wrecked and reports the guy who did one move. take the outside that was given or realize the guy was moving right and back out.
16:39 - It's a make no wonder this guy couldn't accelerate out of the corner; 100% throttle before the apex with 8/10 TC. Throttle was cutting so hard the car couldn't get out of its own way.
Never heard of a lifetime ban from ACC. And this just resulted in a ban in LFM, and most obviously he got there already two "permanent" lifetime banns. If he's a cat, he still has some banns left...
Couple of times you did chop people off where I was holding my breath as you where turning in. The pass into the last chicane was a bit late to be honest. But all in all you drove clean. That guy was a maniac.
Although you could had backed out of that move in Degner 1 (you still had dirty tires). All the other moves are on him. The hairpin incident is just unlucky, he bogged down and you were so close behind him.
He didn't bog down. He was slower out of the corner. He dive bombed (quite well) and had to make a sharper turn. There was zero reason to expect him to carry the same speed as the car taking a better line. This just shows the inexperience of the car being overtaken.
I dont think he should back down on that move on denger 1, Rory still had the right to that corner. The hairpin though is totally on Rory, the bmw made a very good lunge, didnt miss the corner at all and he hit him from behind. The rest is the bmw being a stupid idiot.
Just rewatching some old videos. I searched for this guy in LFM's Discord server. Turns out he wasn't officially banned for this, although he was likely about to get banned for it anyway. It actually shows a problem that LFM seem to have had in policing their bans. He was banned for having previously been banned for the same offence eight months earlier and setting up another account to get around the ban. He had been reported for a couple of minor incidents in September of 2022 (this race was in October) but looks like his ban hadn't been noticed by LFM.
Maybe I have a different perspective not knowing you at all, but that incident at 17:25 ish definitely looked like you over cooked it into the chicane there and had no chance of making that corner without hitting him. As far as the wall crunch goes it looks obvious from your angle he made no attempt and ran strait into the grass to take you out, but that earlier chicane incident looks like your fault to my eyes.
Disgusting behaviour from a so called esport driver I understand him being slightly miffed for when you bumped him after he bogged down but you let him back through and his behaviour afterwards was disgraceful and a ban is well deserved for him !!
LFM gives you the tools to remove drivers like this.. Me like many others would be using it Rory for something like that, report him and get him banned.
Never driven in ACC but see this all the time in GT 7. Some people hate to be outdone and loose their minds. What I hate most is that they are ruining my DR.
I am not excusing him one bit, but how convenient that you didnt show replay of your launch on him in last chicane. The one at 10:47. You did an A** move there on him, before he repaid you with the same. He deserves a punishment for intentional wrecking, but your driving was pretty bad too
Well, actually you crashed into him 2 times in 2 mins, the second was at 10:45. I can understand his frustration. But ofc it doesnt mean you can crash someone on purpose to have revenge
Hey a genuine question @Rory Alexander, but it looked like multiple times you didn't give room as well, not just to the M4 driver but a few others as well causing other damage and a spin you had around 13:18, am I missing something cause don't get me wrong the other guy is an idiot for taking it too far but I'm not entirely surprised based off the driving I see in this video. Genuinely just trying to understand as it seems loads of the grid around you weren't so keen on giving proper space, but I guess that's E-Racing haha.
This happened me to for like two days ago on monza. I went from 75 to 64 SA after I.fellowes decided to use me as sidescraper/bumper car and crash me out as soon as he could. I even left him so much space last time that I had 2 wheels in the sand but yet he decided to wreck me out and didn't even say sorry in chat or nothing. Told everyone else in chat but he was quiet...destroyed my SA and my day.
If I was you i wouldn't have tried to pass him on the right side. He was clear he was squeezing you. You had the time to break and move to the left. He was an ass, but you could have avoided it. You kept pushing. You looked at the chat while he was moving to the right. You were supposed to stay in the left
I had this twice in iRacing. Didn’t report it the second time because they didn’t investigate my first report properly. Best to move on from it quickly.
1:11 the beamer came back on track. That caused the collision imo. I still don’t understand why people come back on track when and how it suits them. Traffic or not, they just rejoin.
Seen this many times. Its 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other after the initial you coming back on the track incident. TBF you should have let him go and then passed him under your own merit! You impeded his line!.. but with streamers like yourself your concentration is 50% on the race and the other on the audience. If you werent overly busy trying to justify the back onto the track move which in itself isnt that bad but your attention was drawn away from racing toward reading the comments on your stream. IDK if this guy actually got banned but you should be feeling 50% responsible for his banning. You have a lot to say when tbh you should be just racing. Understand that your poor concentration levels can and do spoil other drivers races. We cant always be right and in this instance i think you took it too far.
It's because of people like him that make people like me to not touch this game again. Also just because Esport is in the name does not mean he is a high tear esports driver. It's the Internet so you can be anyone you want to be
I’ve had ACC for a while, but as an iRacer, it’s hard for me to spend time on anything other than it because I want to reach my goals there, but I think I’m going to do my first online ACC race soon. I’m a bit anxious about it though with some of the videos I’ve seen lol
The message too just tips it over the edge. One thing to react in the moment but to go out of your way to personally harass someone after the race is done, not okay. People shouldn’t have to worry about nasty messages in their inbox.
I recently got into ACC on pc and a few days ago was doing a race on Nürburgring and had similar thing happened this driver was all over the place intentionally ran up the back of me and t-boned me. real shame theirs some idiots out there that do shit like this on purpose
At first and second view I thought your recovery was a bit suspect, but it really wasn't looking at it again here. The hair-pin is a simple racing incident, no blame on anyone. The rest is complete shenanigans from him, and then, the killer self-imposed idiocy of admitting he caused a crash on purpose. If that's not a lifetime ban, I'm not sure what is. Lunacy. Some folks have said you should have gone left on the straight or held back and tried again. The very fact he admits to causing a collision indicates he would have done it any means possible, then or later.
Watched this live on your stream , was outraged then and now even more so , how dare he do that behaviour and then msg you like he's some sort of esport teacher . This player needs banning and good on you not loosing your cool , hope you reported him mate . Shame on him
I'm the kind of guy who doesn't mind just a bit of bumping or rubbing, but to deliberately take you off the track like that? That is bad form, any way you look at it. And to keep your cool like that? Very nicely done. I honestly despise competitors like that who have s**t skills, and the only way they can deal with other competitors is to pull out something dirty like that.
It really is a popular online gaming issue that somebody who decides to have beef with you can totally ruin your game. At the point you realise it is personal either pull the plug or try and devise a tactic to make it so they cannot get near you. Sucks for sure that they cant just play the game how it is ment to be. The dude deserves a ban.
Maybe I'm going blind but I've watched several times now and I'm failing to see what this guy did that was so bad. Your first move up the inside at the last chicane was pretty questionable and resulted in you both going off. Next, the guy makes the same move and you both go off again. Even Stevens at that point. Down the straight, the guy goes defensive and you try to pass on the pit exit? He was on the far side of the track at the point you tried to pass so I'm not sure he was responsible for you getting binned. I might be wrong and this is the first time I've disagreed, (kinda), so don't hate me. Big fan :)
It's usually like this, the dirty guy in the BMW... makes the mistake alone, because he had space... blames his friend and throws the car on top... and has the courage to report it
@Rory, this is like a typical race for me on gt7. I get people that divebomb me, hit me wide, ram me. People have just become like little children! Your kids are probably more mature than these people! Good job at keeping your cool!
Fairplay to you when you braked after that bump, Happens to the best of us but ramming you off like that..... Rewatched replays allot of times your actions did not seem wrong to me your reentry was fine idk why this guy did this but he should be banned
This'll become a common thing as kids get easy access to gaming computers, consoles and such. Thinking they are pro because they were born with a mouse and keyboard or controller.
He can't handle the frustration of racing online. His race started with 2 crashes in the first 3 corners, the last one got him a spin and a trip to the grass. Maybe you rejoining the track after the spin, and then his semi spin in the hairpin just triggered him. Life tends to do this usually. Now he can start a new account and take it from the beginning - maybe next time he will think twice before acting like a child.... maybe not!
I was torn, at first: the BMW's dive to the inside at 10:15 was really aggressive, but he made the pass by the apex and still (surprisingly) made the turn on exit. I get that his exit was really compromised and that's why you tapped his rear, but that still seems a minor thing that puts fault on you. Props for waiting to give the place back, I think that absolves you from guilt on a minor racing incident, and if that were all of the interaction between you two, I'd have no critique. However, at 10:47, I'm not seeing how you had a shot at making that chicane from that inside line at that entry speed, even if he wasn't there. I imagine from that point, he thought you absolutely speared him off track, and he had the red mist where he wanted to "even the score," in his mind. The REALLY aggressive squeezing you left @ 12:05 was more than I'd ever try in his shoes, and the lunge in that same chicane @ 12:23 was absolutely moronic on his part--it was doomed to fail, from much farther back than your attempt when the roles were reversed, and made all of zero sense. From that point on, I'm in your corner that he's a jerk, and you were much more composed than I would feel. As far as the incident at 14:23, I'm surprised you kept going for the space on his right--in hindsight, he certainly seemed to be lifting for drivers between you two so he could have a go at ruining your race; but as he drifts right, I thought you'd try to juke back left (since he *should* only get one move to defend, if following the rules). Of course, it's easy for me to backseat drive split-second decisions after-the-fact, and I'm convinced he would've just put you in the wall on the left side of the track, too. Just that in a very skewed world, maybe he'd try to appeal, (wrongly) saying he was just continuing to cover the right, but the idiot went so far right he dipped wheels in the grass with you getting obliterated beside him. TL;DR: one or two missteps by you at the start of your battle (10:47, really), but handled well otherwise, and he wouldn't let it go. Guy became increasingly more toxic, and I'm not surprised by his ban.
Hello there mate. Im esports caster in that region. And to be fair... I know that as of late its maybe tough to perceive some of our racers from our country (specifically) as honest and decent ones. I know that there are many many decent drivers. Top esports ones, low splitts ones and so on. Im TERRIBLY SORRY for him, for at least the last incident of start-finish straight. Thats unacceptable. Some other incidents - mhm... Some of it are kinda race incidents. Dirty maybe and sloppy, but... Happens anytime anywhere with everybody. Not so good and all of it needs much better racecraft, but still. BUT the last one is out of anything that can be 'racing'. I done some talking with him today. I hope that he understands what he have done and will never do this again. Will it be regional racing servers, local ones, or international ones (which LFM are).
There's a bunch of people out there like that and they're really ruining it.... it's like they got tired of PS4 finally got a computer and decided ACC was for them and it's not.
The thing about racing for a team, as opposed to racing independently, is that you not only make yourself look like an idiot, you bring your whole team into disrepute. RGT Esports need to take a long, hard look at their driver roster and decide if they want to look like a professional team, or a loose collection of spoilt, self-entitled children.
This reminds me of my days playing F1 online lobbies. He was 100% trying to crash you out. I don’t see a message he sent you. This deserves a lifetime ban.
Guarantee he is on an e-sports team of 1 or they just added that label to their name with no actual affiliation, no way other drivers want to be associated with this terrible excuse of a driver, there is no logic, blames you for his own mistake - proceeds to make multiple deliberate incidents but acts like is somehow superior. Even if it was your fault he spun out (which it wasn't) it's 1 racing incident, how hard is it to move on and try to have the best race you can.
Can I play the devil's advocate for a second? For the record, I believe this guy should be banned from all kind of sim-racing. It's clear he's either a kid that hasn't learned to deal with anger or a very immature adult. But.... In the "final incident", what were you hoping to achieve there? I mean, to be fair, he did fully close the door before you even got an inch alongside. There was no car's width between him and the white pit exit line (which you're not supposed to cross, definitely not to overtake). Also, he obviously (as you proved in the replay) let the guy ahead of you through and was clearly out on war path with you. I mean, you're a smart guy (at least that's my impression :) ), so surely you knew what was about to happen there?? But then again, if it didn't happen there, it probably would have happened somewhere else. And again, I'm 100% on your side, just curious why you decided to basically "allow him" to execute you
You always have to leave a space! He was weaving all over the track and brake checking him. In my opinion that isn’t closing the door, that’s weaving. There is a reason he got banned. He pushed him off the track.
@@camiloorsini9674 The move he does in the final incident is 100% legit, what he does after Rory comes alongside (although it is debatable if Rory should go on the pit exit road to overtake) is just disgusting. I agree with you that he has to leave space, but only if the car following him is (partially) alongside. Otherwise, he has every right to glue his car to the inside. But let's just say we all agree that we're happy that this donkey got a lifetime ban from LFM, as he well deserved it :) Good riddance :D
@@chrismaina1830 and banning someone from using a product they paid for is better? you people are infinitely worse than that guy. he just crashed into someone in a game...but you all want him permanently banned from enjoying something he paid for IN REAL LIFE... no bans should ever be permanent.
In American football, that's what is called targeting. It carries a substantial penalty and a temporary suspension. If a player repeatedly is flagged for targeting, they may be banned from playing at all. Seems like this driver has received the appropriate sanction.
Oh my, where to start with that one… firstly well done for keeping your cool, lord knows I would have struggled. Secondly that is a report every day of the week. Most of the time, yeah it was a bad move/ incident where you could debate a report or not. This is malicious. This is supposed to be a platform for people who want to race in real cars but wasn’t born with a diamond encrusted dummy in their mouth. This platform is about serious attempts to bring real racing into a digital world. No respect for the platform, they don’t belong on it. Well done to you though Rory. An inspiration as always.
Its people like him that make me anxious to take the first step into sim racing because I know for a fact I cannot stand dirty drivers who think that they're the main character of that race. Its appalling to see, and good to know that jerks that drive like that can get banned.
Update: The BMW driver was permanently suspended from LFM for creating a new account to circumvent a previous permanent suspension.
An Idiot will never learn....
Served him right!
Are they IP tracking or how will they figure out his new accounts?
@@WolfteamFreakable Might be MAC or Hardware ID depending on anti-cheat engine their using. I don't recall which ACC uses
Wow, really not good at all when ppl have been banned permanently twice
That guy got permanently banned. Actually he was already banned from LFM on February 22 and made a second account. After the incident with Rory the LFM stewards have banned him again for unsportsmanlike conduct and for making the second account.
It takes a special kind of immaturity to target someone even after they've let you retake a place. I always imagine these people are young angry teenagers just to keep my own faith in humanity.
Hope he gets a life time ban i see this very often lfm shout do more to this i thit said to lfm 3 or 2 reports 1 race exit for ever
For an “E Sports” driver, and I’m using that term. very loosely, he drove like sh#te from the very start.
Saying that, people like Rory, Super GT, Kie25 etc., in my opinion, do have a target on their backs as it will allow said immature individuals, their 10 to 20 minutes of “fame” by playing rough once they realise it races are streamed……Kimi Velocini is one that comes to mind.
Kyle Bush maybe????
@@carlkalman5479 kie25 is one of those immature people were talking about lmfao it's not just teenager's/kid's its overgrown manchirdren as well like kie
Actually, you'll be surprised by the amount of grown ass fools that play this type of games in a dirty way
Yeah that squeeze off the track is a lifetime ban in my opinion
I’m impressed by your attitude, Rory. You could have easily taken revenge, but you took the high road. That’s a reflection of your character and integrity. Keep it up, brother.
I think he may have recognized you as a content creator. This was his way of gaining notoriety. Sorry you were trolled. Keep on making great content. I enjoy watching your channel and have been for quite some time. Your mental focus over the years has improved immensely. You don’t let these things phase you. Keep up the good work.
Your ability to remain calm in these situations blows my mind. I would have lost my s***. You're a credit to the community.
blowssss my mind...if not for some of his earlier GT7 vids i probably would not be a A+ rated as I would have rage quit alot lol
That BWM guy was the one who lost his sh**.
Wanna be like him?
Acc has definitely taught me anger management lol I've only had a wheel for a few months and I'm a bit off the pace (like 10 seconds) but if I get angry I try to drive very aggressively and can't keep the car on the track. Although sometimes I'll just go to Forza and and drive the racing semi and just start ramming cars 😂
If you lose your head on him, you'd be the same piece of sh*t as him.
Met this guy like a week ago on a public server. Anyone who got close to him during the first lap, he deliberately crashed into and sent off the track.
disgusting fucking behavior
What I dont underdtand IS how my SA id 40 and this guy's is above 80...
Maybe I'm a cookie...
If this are the type of drivers RGT has then it is completely embarrassing. Appalling sportsmanship and racing etiquette from this driver,
That was just horrendous behavior from anyone, let alone an eSports driver. This person went out of their way, letting others easily pass and braking just so Rory would be close enough, again, for them to literally wreck his car. I hope you were not the only one who reported that person
Yeah, I'd say this one warrants a report. I can imagine this one didn't feel nice at all. Seemed frustrating to say the least and that was in the earlier part where you had more speed but couldn't really get an overtake done due to damage. And then the carnage with the esports driver was yet to begin 😱Let's just hope the report has some success and you move on.
This was really hard to watch. No words can describe my utter disgust at some driver's behavior.
You didn't review your 10:51 chicane banzai move. Cmon.
But him getting a ban for that ram on the front straight-completely justified.
My point exactly 💯
He started well, his initial dive bomb into the hairpin was textbook, and on the exit he was probs stuck in 8 tc for a while and you hit him which is completely on you but you let him by respectfully, from then on his actions were disgusting.
Agreed, you can tell Rory had lost his composure with about ten minutes left, plain to see with the constant lip biting and nervous smile. The first half of the race as you say, was great! The other guys actions were disgusting
@@karlsmith8113 okay, the dive bomb was on Rory, then. This came up on my recommended feed, and I’m new to sim racing, so I’m still learning to recognize good and bad lines and such.
I was actually super impressed with the dive bomb by the other guy, and wasn’t initially sure if the first hairpin was on Rory or not because the lunge was clean, and overtake was clean, but I didn’t know if maybe the guy not having power to accelerate on the exit was perhaps bad on the other guy, or a simple mistake, or what.
However, almost everything I saw afterwards was on the BMW driver. That guy was absolutely targeting Rory.
There is one more moment I’d love to learn about, though. The first time Rory and BMW go through the chicane, the BMW drove wide through the left hand turn, then slowly meandered back across the track to the left. Rory was headed to the outside of the upcoming chicane as well. However, I can’t tell if Rory has the space to cut inside when he does, and the BMW cuts inside at the same time after having gone from outside right to outside left of the track. Did Rory have the space to make that move? Was the other guy only cutting in to cut Rory off? Was it a combination of the two?
Outside of that incident, everything else I saw was on the BMW. The one incident with the white car that clips Rory on the side I don’t even think was on him, as he already seemed like he was outside enough on that part that the white car would have had space on the inside to at least avoid contact. That said, I don’t think it was necessarily bad intent on the white car, just a mistake. I think the only reason Rory said he didn’t know where cars were coming from, there, was that he was already flustered from dealing with the BMW, and was so focused on not getting upset, and trying to make a clean pass, that he wasn’t expecting any contact on what should have otherwise been a clean corner.
Can I ask you say the Dive bomb was on Rory but while I agree going down the inside Is a race move the part I struggle with dive bombing just because the person forces there car there in the inside if they practically bring there car to a stand still surely they haven't made the move stick if you pull the Dive bomb off and carry some speed then fair enough. But why should the other driver have to yield space to the much slower car because the driver over pushed am I reading it wrong
yes, you can't hit a slower car because you're faster. No matter what.
This guy doesn't deserve to be in a public lobby let alone LFM or god forbid an esports league. He should be a ban on sight guy, this kind of driving is despicable.
I dont know about that first situation earlier. He got a bad exit but Rory crashed into him... i dont know how that would be handled with the rules. 10:46 that was on Rory in my opinion. If I would be the BMW driver, I wouldnt have not expected that Rory would go for that move/dive and try to overtake. So, the BMW didnt even had a chance or time to give him space while turning in to that corner.
Yep, Rory had no rights to the corner as he completely overshot the corner and missed his braking point as well as not fully holding the brakes but instead trailing. That's what we call a divebomb.
Maybe he got mad because of the dive you did on the last chicane around 10:47... why you left that out of the replay?
Truly one of the most shameful driving behavior I've seen on LFM, that was insane to watch live
I started to wonder if it was an ACC incarnation of Kimi Velocini?
This guy has his own channel with 166 subs, last upload was 2 weeks ago. Guess he looked you up, got all frustrated and decided to take you out.
In the end the only thing he has taken out was himself.
That deranged guy was purposely slowing down and waiting for you to Ram you into the guardrails and that last time when your car was disabled. He was letting everyone by except you.
He was definitely pissed off about something, and decided to take revenge on you the rest of the race until the final incident disabling your car.
He should be reported and banned or suspended for his actions. He wasn't even trying to race, just after you.
thanks for the video.
TBF the hit in the hairpin was your fault u couldve lifted the gas again imo if u are smart , like always count on the fault from others. 2nd the divebomb from him was his mistake bc he was with slipstream too late on the brakes so obviously he is slow in that corner and exit ;) . 3rd: the 2nd divebomb at last chicane couldve been seen from miles away so another smart move you couldve done is leave the door open and take over at the exit of chicane. and the pushing oftrack from him at start finish line couldve been avoided too from u just lift gas and steer left .
and tbh u divebombed him in last chicane at 10:47 in the race too bc u lifted the brakes 1 time so u were in some cases at fault too.
i am not justifying his bad driving , cause he DID drive bad and made alot mistakes, BUT you couldve driven smarter and avoided alot of that and did some mistakes too.
i do agree with some here that he should get a hefty penalty for driving recless but you did some mistakes too and couldve avoided alot. anyway nice video
That has put me in a rage just watching it. Report report report....
The message post race was the icing on the cake
impressed by how calm you were👏
He's not an actual 'esports' whatever , its just a team of his and his mates ( just search simgrid rgt esports) Report , include replay , timestamps , and the message , and if anyone else has had incidents with him , report , get people like this out of LFM
why did i get recommended a video in which a guy gets given the outside lane, dives to the inside (which is fine) the car moving to the right keeps moving to the right. dude from behind sticks it inside when the lane had closed. gets wrecked and reports the guy who did one move.
take the outside that was given or realize the guy was moving right and back out.
Exactly, by the time he had overlap he was already in the pitlane
16:39 - It's a make no wonder this guy couldn't accelerate out of the corner; 100% throttle before the apex with 8/10 TC. Throttle was cutting so hard the car couldn't get out of its own way.
Please tell me you reported him. He will get lifetime ban for that
Never heard of a lifetime ban from ACC. And this just resulted in a ban in LFM, and most obviously he got there already two "permanent" lifetime banns. If he's a cat, he still has some banns left...
What an absolute muppet! He got butt-hurt over NOTHING and proceeded to act like a spoiled child having a tantrum.
Couple of times you did chop people off where I was holding my breath as you where turning in. The pass into the last chicane was a bit late to be honest. But all in all you drove clean. That guy was a maniac.
Yeah I spotted that too, but it's not always easy to know where people have moved to after you make a manoeuvre in a tight spot.
Although you could had backed out of that move in Degner 1 (you still had dirty tires). All the other moves are on him. The hairpin incident is just unlucky, he bogged down and you were so close behind him.
He didn't bog down. He was slower out of the corner. He dive bombed (quite well) and had to make a sharper turn. There was zero reason to expect him to carry the same speed as the car taking a better line. This just shows the inexperience of the car being overtaken.
I dont think he should back down on that move on denger 1, Rory still had the right to that corner. The hairpin though is totally on Rory, the bmw made a very good lunge, didnt miss the corner at all and he hit him from behind.
The rest is the bmw being a stupid idiot.
Just rewatching some old videos. I searched for this guy in LFM's Discord server. Turns out he wasn't officially banned for this, although he was likely about to get banned for it anyway. It actually shows a problem that LFM seem to have had in policing their bans. He was banned for having previously been banned for the same offence eight months earlier and setting up another account to get around the ban. He had been reported for a couple of minor incidents in September of 2022 (this race was in October) but looks like his ban hadn't been noticed by LFM.
Would love to see the replay from other perspective on 10:47, not very clear stuff...
Maybe I have a different perspective not knowing you at all, but that incident at 17:25 ish definitely looked like you over cooked it into the chicane there and had no chance of making that corner without hitting him.
As far as the wall crunch goes it looks obvious from your angle he made no attempt and ran strait into the grass to take you out, but that earlier chicane incident looks like your fault to my eyes.
He's not racing at that point. He's just slowing down and waiting for you just so he can take you out.
Disgusting behaviour from a so called esport driver I understand him being slightly miffed for when you bumped him after he bogged down but you let him back through and his behaviour afterwards was disgraceful and a ban is well deserved for him !!
The first bump where you asked if it were you, was clearly you. Your radar has 3 cars to the left and your just drove across them.
11:10 is when you execute a perfect pit manuever like an american cop who missed his morning donut and coffee.
LFM gives you the tools to remove drivers like this.. Me like many others would be using it Rory for something like that, report him and get him banned.
Never driven in ACC but see this all the time in GT 7. Some people hate to be outdone and loose their minds. What I hate most is that they are ruining my DR.
I am not excusing him one bit, but how convenient that you didnt show replay of your launch on him in last chicane. The one at 10:47. You did an A** move there on him, before he repaid you with the same. He deserves a punishment for intentional wrecking, but your driving was pretty bad too
I just checked his LFM profile and it say blocked/banned until 2023 dropped to rookie licence and no elo rating..... Wich probably means he's gone
Well, actually you crashed into him 2 times in 2 mins, the second was at 10:45. I can understand his frustration. But ofc it doesnt mean you can crash someone on purpose to have revenge
Hey a genuine question @Rory Alexander, but it looked like multiple times you didn't give room as well, not just to the M4 driver but a few others as well causing other damage and a spin you had around 13:18, am I missing something cause don't get me wrong the other guy is an idiot for taking it too far but I'm not entirely surprised based off the driving I see in this video. Genuinely just trying to understand as it seems loads of the grid around you weren't so keen on giving proper space, but I guess that's E-Racing haha.
This happened me to for like two days ago on monza. I went from 75 to 64 SA after I.fellowes decided to use me as sidescraper/bumper car and crash me out as soon as he could. I even left him so much space last time that I had 2 wheels in the sand but yet he decided to wreck me out and didn't even say sorry in chat or nothing. Told everyone else in chat but he was quiet...destroyed my SA and my day.
if he's an E-sport player, and if i was his sponsor or whatever, i'd kick him off and suspend him, talk about professionalism from an E-sport name
If he really is or just an esports wannabe.
Considering how far he is down the field then I'd bet he just put "Esports" on his name
I really like your attitude Rory, how the hell did that guy manage to get into the top split with such poor skills, keep up the great driving buddy👍🔥
He knew who you were. He targeted you to get his 15 minutes of fame.
more like 15mins of shame tho^^
I saw in the rearview mirror in Rorys car, that he had some damage in the front of his car. Not the first incidents he was in, in that race
If I was you i wouldn't have tried to pass him on the right side. He was clear he was squeezing you. You had the time to break and move to the left. He was an ass, but you could have avoided it. You kept pushing. You looked at the chat while he was moving to the right. You were supposed to stay in the left
I had this twice in iRacing. Didn’t report it the second time because they didn’t investigate my first report properly. Best to move on from it quickly.
1:11 the beamer came back on track. That caused the collision imo. I still don’t understand why people come back on track when and how it suits them. Traffic or not, they just rejoin.
So he got banned but could you please give us explanation of what happened at 10:47 in this video and why? It would only be fair don't you think?
Got forced onto the kerb
@@darth_autie_117 Oh, sorry it looked like a ramming dive bomb to me.
Seen this many times. Its 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other after the initial you coming back on the track incident. TBF you should have let him go and then passed him under your own merit! You impeded his line!.. but with streamers like yourself your concentration is 50% on the race and the other on the audience. If you werent overly busy trying to justify the back onto the track move which in itself isnt that bad but your attention was drawn away from racing toward reading the comments on your stream. IDK if this guy actually got banned but you should be feeling 50% responsible for his banning. You have a lot to say when tbh you should be just racing. Understand that your poor concentration levels can and do spoil other drivers races. We cant always be right and in this instance i think you took it too far.
shouldn't he get banned for this? totally unacceptable, clearly a very immature individual who needs some therapy...
That line at the final chicane is called Prost 89 championship line
It's because of people like him that make people like me to not touch this game again. Also just because Esport is in the name does not mean he is a high tear esports driver. It's the Internet so you can be anyone you want to be
Thanks for saving me the frustration of even bothering , sad shit.
I frequently rammed my friend in gt7, thought he was making noise. Didn't know it was such a big deal
I’ve had ACC for a while, but as an iRacer, it’s hard for me to spend time on anything other than it because I want to reach my goals there, but I think I’m going to do my first online ACC race soon. I’m a bit anxious about it though with some of the videos I’ve seen lol
Question is - did you report him to LFM and what came of the report? I don't race on LFM, but I hear they are pretty strict on that kind of behaviour.
The message too just tips it over the edge. One thing to react in the moment but to go out of your way to personally harass someone after the race is done, not okay. People shouldn’t have to worry about nasty messages in their inbox.
You did nothing wrong, report that guy. That dude is far from a “Esports” driver 😂
I recently got into ACC on pc and a few days ago was doing a race on Nürburgring and had similar thing happened this driver was all over the place intentionally ran up the back of me and t-boned me. real shame theirs some idiots out there that do shit like this on purpose
Just keep practicing, you will get better.
Well that message made it easy to get his name into ACC for the ban, that's for sure.
Thx 4 time-codes, you save my time
At first and second view I thought your recovery was a bit suspect, but it really wasn't looking at it again here. The hair-pin is a simple racing incident, no blame on anyone. The rest is complete shenanigans from him, and then, the killer self-imposed idiocy of admitting he caused a crash on purpose. If that's not a lifetime ban, I'm not sure what is. Lunacy.
Some folks have said you should have gone left on the straight or held back and tried again. The very fact he admits to causing a collision indicates he would have done it any means possible, then or later.
Watched this live on your stream , was outraged then and now even more so , how dare he do that behaviour and then msg you like he's some sort of esport teacher . This player needs banning and good on you not loosing your cool , hope you reported him mate . Shame on him
I'm the kind of guy who doesn't mind just a bit of bumping or rubbing, but to deliberately take you off the track like that? That is bad form, any way you look at it. And to keep your cool like that? Very nicely done. I honestly despise competitors like that who have s**t skills, and the only way they can deal with other competitors is to pull out something dirty like that.
It really is a popular online gaming issue that somebody who decides to have beef with you can totally ruin your game. At the point you realise it is personal either pull the plug or try and devise a tactic to make it so they cannot get near you. Sucks for sure that they cant just play the game how it is ment to be. The dude deserves a ban.
Maybe I'm going blind but I've watched several times now and I'm failing to see what this guy did that was so bad. Your first move up the inside at the last chicane was pretty questionable and resulted in you both going off. Next, the guy makes the same move and you both go off again. Even Stevens at that point. Down the straight, the guy goes defensive and you try to pass on the pit exit? He was on the far side of the track at the point you tried to pass so I'm not sure he was responsible for you getting binned. I might be wrong and this is the first time I've disagreed, (kinda), so don't hate me. Big fan :)
It's usually like this, the dirty guy in the BMW... makes the mistake alone, because he had space... blames his friend and throws the car on top... and has the courage to report it
@Rory, this is like a typical race for me on gt7. I get people that divebomb me, hit me wide, ram me. People have just become like little children! Your kids are probably more mature than these people! Good job at keeping your cool!
Should be reported for that level of driving.
I'm confused. Why did Rory follow behind him rather than pass on the left?
to get more clicks on youtube
Fairplay to you when you braked after that bump, Happens to the best of us but ramming you off like that..... Rewatched replays allot of times your actions did not seem wrong to me your reentry was fine idk why this guy did this but he should be banned
4:46 he intentionally runs a guy clean off the track.
This'll become a common thing as kids get easy access to gaming computers, consoles and such.
Thinking they are pro because they were born with a mouse and keyboard or controller.
He can't handle the frustration of racing online. His race started with 2 crashes in the first 3 corners, the last one got him a spin and a trip to the grass. Maybe you rejoining the track after the spin, and then his semi spin in the hairpin just triggered him. Life tends to do this usually. Now he can start a new account and take it from the beginning - maybe next time he will think twice before acting like a child.... maybe not!
Chill man, it was just an inchident.
I was torn, at first: the BMW's dive to the inside at 10:15 was really aggressive, but he made the pass by the apex and still (surprisingly) made the turn on exit. I get that his exit was really compromised and that's why you tapped his rear, but that still seems a minor thing that puts fault on you. Props for waiting to give the place back, I think that absolves you from guilt on a minor racing incident, and if that were all of the interaction between you two, I'd have no critique.
However, at 10:47, I'm not seeing how you had a shot at making that chicane from that inside line at that entry speed, even if he wasn't there. I imagine from that point, he thought you absolutely speared him off track, and he had the red mist where he wanted to "even the score," in his mind. The REALLY aggressive squeezing you left @ 12:05 was more than I'd ever try in his shoes, and the lunge in that same chicane @ 12:23 was absolutely moronic on his part--it was doomed to fail, from much farther back than your attempt when the roles were reversed, and made all of zero sense. From that point on, I'm in your corner that he's a jerk, and you were much more composed than I would feel.
As far as the incident at 14:23, I'm surprised you kept going for the space on his right--in hindsight, he certainly seemed to be lifting for drivers between you two so he could have a go at ruining your race; but as he drifts right, I thought you'd try to juke back left (since he *should* only get one move to defend, if following the rules). Of course, it's easy for me to backseat drive split-second decisions after-the-fact, and I'm convinced he would've just put you in the wall on the left side of the track, too. Just that in a very skewed world, maybe he'd try to appeal, (wrongly) saying he was just continuing to cover the right, but the idiot went so far right he dipped wheels in the grass with you getting obliterated beside him.
TL;DR: one or two missteps by you at the start of your battle (10:47, really), but handled well otherwise, and he wouldn't let it go. Guy became increasingly more toxic, and I'm not surprised by his ban.
Seen that guy in a few races he was aggressive like that towards others also.
Report him. LFM hate revenge attacks. It’ll be a 2 week ban and the rest of us need him gone.
Hello there mate.
Im esports caster in that region. And to be fair... I know that as of late its maybe tough to perceive some of our racers from our country (specifically) as honest and decent ones.
I know that there are many many decent drivers. Top esports ones, low splitts ones and so on.
Im TERRIBLY SORRY for him, for at least the last incident of start-finish straight. Thats unacceptable. Some other incidents - mhm... Some of it are kinda race incidents. Dirty maybe and sloppy, but... Happens anytime anywhere with everybody. Not so good and all of it needs much better racecraft, but still.
BUT the last one is out of anything that can be 'racing'.
I done some talking with him today. I hope that he understands what he have done and will never do this again. Will it be regional racing servers, local ones, or international ones (which LFM are).
There's a bunch of people out there like that and they're really ruining it.... it's like they got tired of PS4 finally got a computer and decided ACC was for them and it's not.
This is why I almost never race against ppl any more. Cheating and bad sportsmanship is rampant in sim racing any more.
The thing about racing for a team, as opposed to racing independently, is that you not only make yourself look like an idiot, you bring your whole team into disrepute. RGT Esports need to take a long, hard look at their driver roster and decide if they want to look like a professional team, or a loose collection of spoilt, self-entitled children.
Nothing to feel guilty about, the guys a tool! 🔧
This reminds me of my days playing F1 online lobbies. He was 100% trying to crash you out. I don’t see a message he sent you. This deserves a lifetime ban.
Guarantee he is on an e-sports team of 1 or they just added that label to their name with no actual affiliation, no way other drivers want to be associated with this terrible excuse of a driver, there is no logic, blames you for his own mistake - proceeds to make multiple deliberate incidents but acts like is somehow superior. Even if it was your fault he spun out (which it wasn't) it's 1 racing incident, how hard is it to move on and try to have the best race you can.
sorry but you're not the cleanest ride out there yourself mate 😉
Can I play the devil's advocate for a second? For the record, I believe this guy should be banned from all kind of sim-racing. It's clear he's either a kid that hasn't learned to deal with anger or a very immature adult. But.... In the "final incident", what were you hoping to achieve there? I mean, to be fair, he did fully close the door before you even got an inch alongside. There was no car's width between him and the white pit exit line (which you're not supposed to cross, definitely not to overtake). Also, he obviously (as you proved in the replay) let the guy ahead of you through and was clearly out on war path with you. I mean, you're a smart guy (at least that's my impression :) ), so surely you knew what was about to happen there?? But then again, if it didn't happen there, it probably would have happened somewhere else.
And again, I'm 100% on your side, just curious why you decided to basically "allow him" to execute you
You always have to leave a space!
He was weaving all over the track and brake checking him. In my opinion that isn’t closing the door, that’s weaving.
There is a reason he got banned. He pushed him off the track.
@@camiloorsini9674 The move he does in the final incident is 100% legit, what he does after Rory comes alongside (although it is debatable if Rory should go on the pit exit road to overtake) is just disgusting. I agree with you that he has to leave space, but only if the car following him is (partially) alongside. Otherwise, he has every right to glue his car to the inside.
But let's just say we all agree that we're happy that this donkey got a lifetime ban from LFM, as he well deserved it :) Good riddance :D
So much respect for how you reacted to the situation. Proper adult, proper driver. End of story.
10:48 pretty bad driving from you tho. Like what did you try there?
Yall need to chill. It is just a game
It's no excuse to be an arse
@@chrismaina1830 and banning someone from using a product they paid for is better? you people are infinitely worse than that guy. he just crashed into someone in a game...but you all want him permanently banned from enjoying something he paid for IN REAL LIFE...
no bans should ever be permanent.
In American football, that's what is called targeting. It carries a substantial penalty and a temporary suspension. If a player repeatedly is flagged for targeting, they may be banned from playing at all.
Seems like this driver has received the appropriate sanction.
Oh my, where to start with that one… firstly well done for keeping your cool, lord knows I would have struggled. Secondly that is a report every day of the week. Most of the time, yeah it was a bad move/ incident where you could debate a report or not. This is malicious. This is supposed to be a platform for people who want to race in real cars but wasn’t born with a diamond encrusted dummy in their mouth. This platform is about serious attempts to bring real racing into a digital world. No respect for the platform, they don’t belong on it. Well done to you though Rory. An inspiration as always.
Its people like him that make me anxious to take the first step into sim racing because I know for a fact I cannot stand dirty drivers who think that they're the main character of that race. Its appalling to see, and good to know that jerks that drive like that can get banned.
I really hope you reported that guy.