BREAKDOWN Peek-a-Boo Boxing Style (not efficient for most fighters and why)
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- More feelings and explanation on why I don't recommend Cus D'Amato's peek a book boxing style for most fighters. Basically, I think its movement is inefficient and not a good fit for most body types.
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The answer to the question in your title is:
Because they are not Mike Tyson!!!!!
Lol....you said it, not me!!!
There is no good or bad fighting styles. Only the one that fits you, or the one that font. So try the as Nancy as you can, and master the one that suits you the Best.
That's like saying you can use knitting to fight. There are OBVIOUSLY styles that are "good or bad". If there weren't there would be no boxing.
I think this only works for the short stocky explosive fighter like Tyson or Patterson. Also, I say it is a very energy demanding style!
also didn't rooney use this when he was fighting? he wasn't a big puncher either- not saying it would not always work but you are correct in your breakdown imo.
Tyson is 5 11, Floyd Patterson was 6 feet.
@@allopez8563 and was still good that's only 1 inch difference
@@Testosteroneisnaturaltrump2024 Exactly neither were short. Although, Tyson was generally shorter than his opponents.
Personally, I'm small so I do study and practice peek a boo style. If I was tall, it would be non sens indeed. I do agree, it uses a lot of energy and it requires tons of time of practice before starting to obtain decent results. This being said, this style actually helped me so much improving my boxing skills. I guess there are some pros and cons in all style !! :)
Happy for you!
i like how the peekaboo instinctually trains you to combo your offence with defense. Before I tried this style, id throw a punch or a combo and forget about head movement or keeping my hands up for defense.
But you really could just apply that mentality to any other style.
Great video as always! What pants/shoes are those? Those are dope bro
How do you feel about the stance switching that he did? I have trouble fighting taller people when i dont stance switch like that
My first coach tried to teach me peek-a-boo. I also argued that it didn't fit my body type and preference to fight primarily as an out-boxer. Coincidentally, he once had Tyson's body shape, back when he was a bodybuilder. I had a lot of problems with the stance and movement. He also really focused on old-school Rocky Marciano style and similar.
Years later, I only use it as a last resort. Most of the time I never let people in close enough to me to actually have to use it. Peek-a-boo is more for in-fighters. Similar to Mexican style swarmers. A lot of it is really rooted in old school shorter heavyweight fighting, but some people can be better off with foot movement and long reach. Anthony Joshua has a reach that is nearly 10" over Tyson. We saw what happened when he tried to fight inside with Ruiz Jr. the first time. He got crushed. He came back fighting the way that he should have as an actual (out-)boxer (not fighter) and won the second time.
Mike Tyson's reach is shorter than Ruiz Jr. Tyson was at that threshold where he could in-fight like a shorter boxer with much of the speed, but had the power of the taller heavyweights. Tyson used it against taller opponents, but had the leg strength and conditioning to get low enough to use it on almost everyone else.
Peek-a-boo is probably best for shorter in-fighters that make up for foot movement with upper-body movement. Since there aren't many who are shorter than I am, it's not effective for me in most cases, but I still train it a lot because I know that there will be times that I need to cover up and stay low to dig in hard on an opponent. But most of the time I just leap around like AJ and let them run out of breath trying to catch me (many in-fighters are rather flat footed and lack mobility).
@PogChamp He was very much set in his ways. I appreciate some of his training, but you are right. The better coaches tend to focus on letting people work with numerous "right" ways of doing things rather than insisting that there is only one right way.
@PogChamp You get another trainer.
It's funny you say that cus mike Tyson was very flat footed, if you have seen him bare feet.
Coach, Can you suggest me what should be the weight of my Boxing Gloves as I am going to Join a Class soon. Are 12 Oz good for Heavy Bag and Sparring and Fight?
It depends on the size of your hand. Apart from fight gloves (8oz,10oz) think of them more like s, m, l, xl. 16oz is roughly xl. Use hand wraps to pack it out to adjust fit.
You nailed it with body type, but there was another factor; The hurricane going on inside his head, developed in Brownsvill Brooklyn. His videos reveal how it must have been like stepping into the ring with a Bengal Tiger. His idol was another Tiger named Jack Dempsey.
Could you make a video helping me to land knockouts becuase I’m a skinny weilghter weight around 142 pounds how can I land knockouts or can I even land knockouts?
Go to Ramsey dewys yt channel and watch his jack Dempsey audio books.
Mike tyson was super fast sooo sorry to people that get butt hurt
yea but what other styles should I box in as a short fighter? The only choice I feel like left is peekaboo
@@superlambmilkshake4904 same
@@superlambmilkshake4904 philly shell is a bery unorthodox one but can be very good if learned right
@@superlambmilkshake4904 don't listen to these guys lol just get better at it anyway Floyd Patterson was 6ft and he adopted the peek a boo
@@Testosteroneisnaturaltrump2024yes, Joss tores too.
After trying the peakaboo and learning it, I can definitely say you are absolutely right!
Well there we have it!!! What did you experience?
@@expertboxing I found that it really depends on your body type. If you aren’t short and muscular like Tyson, it will not feel comfortable. Tyson was an endomorph, so me being a mesomorph, it doesn’t really suit my body type. My knees would often burn out and I’d get tired pretty easily. Also, for you to use this style properly, you have to have A LOT of focus. If you have even just a little bit of lack of focus, you will not be moving properly This fighting style is really meant for you to finish your opponent in the early rounds. I feel like fighting styles really depend on the individual. If you’re able to flow perfectly with a fighting style, then you should stick to it. Tyson pretty much had all this by instinct.
My coach told me to do pee-a-boo style, hes a old man, he got a high reputation in my gym, Im kinda intrigued.
Been using it for a few weeks, Im hella comfortable with that stance than the regular stance.
I agree with you. Even Teddy Atlas didn't teach it after he left Cus. I know nothing about Atlas as a trainer, I'm only mentioning it since you're talking about it. I think Atlas said it's so demanding a style you can only use it well for a couple of years. Mike happened to have developed and filled out early and few guys with such athleticism would waste it on a 2 year career with injuries. Tyson learned as a child from the creator and so his body also adapted to it after 6 years of training. He also went on to have one of the shortest boxing careers. Seems like there's really a lot of sadness around the Cus story. The old guy was trying to give them what he never had and he didn't even get to see Tysons debut, which is honestly fucking heartbreaking. :(
To me, the peekaboo boxing style is an amazing style and the most affective, it is an aggressive style, fast movements and combinations and Mike was an amazing fighter and still is, now he is 54.
I am 5 foot 6 and quite muscular so I am used to doing a semi peek a boo. One time I had to spar a really small and explosive guy. I had a hard time with him even if he wasn't that good.
I proved that this style is not great if your not the shorter fighter
How much were them grant gloves and where did you get them everywhere I look their over a thousand?
I Question u anther Tpic Manny Pacquiao Use Peek a Boo Boxing Style?
He does his own version of it, yes.
It depends on the person and height, weight and if you're really willing to master it.. each has it's own uniqueness and uses to each advantages.
Judging from the outside is different from actually doing it. I do his style because I’m a short fighter because I have to close a gap between me and a taller fighter. You have to charge in if your short.
Peek a boo style is good for people with a low center of gravity those short stocky fighters.
I am a very short heavyweight and I've been practicing this style for about 2 or 3 years and since I'm only five eight I usually deliver a body shot unless someone is stupid enough to bring their head down a few inches. It was only energy consuming for about a month then when I got into the ring for 8 rounds I noticed that even though I am pretty hefty and overweight but it was so much easier for me to move and slip in for a nice punch. I had to quit for about 5 months because of something with my back but after that I went back and I'm doing just fine now. You are right about some of these and especially the body type. I have relatively short arms but I use head movement and legs to slip my way into the weak spots. But all in all I think it is a pretty fitting style for me. Great video though
So what would you recommend for a very short stout fighter then
I recommend you keep an open mind and try every style. Then keep what works.
i definitely agree with you it is high risk high reward definitely a super advanced boxing style and it is very strict and dependent on the boxer
Amen! I don't know if I would call it advanced. Advanced to me...is like fighting with a hands-down style. THAT requires a lot more skill, coordination, timing, and risk.
Well argued. Just like the Great Muhammad Ali’s style of fighting is not suitable for everyone, the Peek a Boo style of fighting isn’t for everyone.
I completely agree with this. I'm a smaller heavy weight and I tried this and yea i quickly realized that I'm not Tyson. It made me exhausted after 3 rounds, and I took a lot more shots then normally because you need to have crazy conditioning and speed for this boxing style.
I really don't understand why people would give you hate for feeling this way. I really thought it was universal knowledge that this boxing style only works for a certain type of person.
I started boxing 2 months ago and the pkb style IS a very painful style to use
however it is a very fun style in my opinion
Painful in what way?
legs they hurt
because you need a wide stance in order to shift them weights
The closest I found to the peek a boo style was from the ike quartey, joshua clottey, winky wright camp. I find the peek a boo & highguard style similar.
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@@markant9534 Understood.. I think personally, Tyson's peek a boo was different than Floyd Patterson, & Jose Torres, Cus dematos previous students. Tyson's was more active than those two. Theirs was more stationary & emphasized more blocking. Ijs
Just use the window wiper to get inside then lad a hard hook/uppercut, then Pivot, get out of there
If it is not effective.. then it's your problem.. it doesn't fit in you.. not every person could master it easily.. i've been practicing it for almost a year by myself and it suits me.. and still practicing and practicing.. let people criticize you and never mind them if you love what you are doing.
are you short? Because i am and you said the style suits you so im curious how tall u are so I can know if should use peekaboo
I would just like to add that when talking about athletics… anyone from west Africa… short.. tall… as long as you keep that explosive genetic ability seen from that area of the world… studying peek a boo isn’t a bad idea.
Body type 💯% I like my Mummy and cross guard style lol Total opposite of the peek a boo lol Wastes 0 energy and LOTS of old guys used those styles just like the shoulder roll heavy styles.
Absolutely!!!
I’m 6’2 I learned the peekaboo style because I feel more comfortable in a squared off stance because I can generate more power. That’s literally the only benefit in the long run. It’s extremely draining and after watching mike Tyson’s early fights, I realize they ended so quick because they HAD too. He was figuratively going all in every fight on the quick TKO or KO because no way you can’t get gassed taking that style into the later rounds it’s impossible
Anything is possible, if you train hard enough you can go all 12 rounds.
@@acts9835 yes but father time is undefeated. Mayweather changed his style for 2 reasons. Hands were breaking and age
@@H3WORLD why are you involving aging
@@acts9835 I mean you can Google the correlation between aging and speed agility and strength
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Totally agree.... peek-a-boo is a very very advanced technique which 99.999 percent of boxers cannot master..... Short stocky guys, as you said, against taller guys....might work but man, it would take so much work to perfect it....as I see it, in modern boxing at least, only iron Mike did.
yes absolutely, if something is so hard that you have to be perfect to make it work....maybe it’s not a good style for everyone
You don’t slip rights hands that’s impossible you lay to the left after you slip the jab and the guy tries to follow up you can’t catch somebody with a right hand if they are to your left that’s impossible they have to be laying on the right for you to catch them with a right hand
Yeah….you can slip right hands, and land rights against dudes on your left. Mayweather caught a bunch of guys with chasedown right hands. Even Ruiz with his shorter arms landed chasedown right hands on the taller AJ.
@@expertboxing I’m talkinh about a 1 followed by a two not jus a plan two if you slip to your opponent left after he jabs abs he throw a two he can’t hit you if you counter back that’s the whole thing slip and counter you don’t wait for him to hit you it take some time for him to catch you with a right hand if your on the opposite side of it
@@expertboxing mayweather pulled a move by leaning that quickly cominh back with a right hand that’s not a chase down right hand and aj didn’t have head movement he never slipped outside his opponent shoulder so had Andy thru a chase down right hand I worry about your name on here bro
There are no old peek a boo fighters? What about Alexander Povetkin?!
If does not really rely on crazy ability, because the way you are supposed to stand in the style is a shortcut to shift your weight so you can slip on a dime.
If it doesn’t rely on crazy ability, then why can only super athletic fighters use it? Name me one fighter who make it work at old age.
You can have whatever boxing style you want it's the person not the style.its the work not the words
And in a way...the style has to fit the person and not the other way around.
I agree with your criticisms. Especially your criticism that it takes a LOT of energy. However, I think it is a really effective for a fight that only last a minute or so. For someone who isn't trained, it is really hard to hit the guy who coming forward and who is slipping his head while doing so, and then somehow ends up standing next to you instead of front of you and is throwing bombing hooks and right hand power punches.
absolutely agree. it’s about knowing its weaknesses, so you can fit it into the situations where it strategically fits best. instead of just blindly using it as your go-to without understanding how it leaves you vulnerable.
I mean you just said you don't think the pikaboo style fits everyone well you shouldn't think you should know cause thinking is a guess knowing is the answer and second yes it takes a lot of power energy and especially leg and back power but that's why there is something called roadwork to build up that energy you are assuming so many things but not knowing nothing about it
I explained why it doesn’t fit everyone. But hey guess what….I don’t need to prove anything. We can see he truth for ourselves. There is no single style that fits every fighter. Done. Period. End of story.
@@expertboxing I'm tall and it fits me fine and same with other styles that I try the only excuse is lack of training and loser mentality
Tyson to Adrien Broner isn't fair because Tyson fought at heavy weight. People fighting at heavy weight always get rocked. That's what makes that weight division so popular and intense. One punch KOs all the time. So that's not a fair comparison.
BTW it's not good to have an idol it's good to have someone you look up too though
I love how Marcos Maidana beat Adrien Broner. That's what Broner gets for being too cocky.😆
Amen! Broner was being way disrespectful and got what he deserved.
It’s catered for fighters that are shorter. It also requires extreme stamina because you are constantly moving. For a boxer like Lennox Lewis it wouldn’t be good at all. For Tyson it was perfect. Later in his career he got away from it and relied on his knockout power.
For a stocky fighter nothing will be MORE efficient than peeckaboo
nothing??? you do know there are many short champions with other styles right??
Adrian broners legs offend me, I refuse to listen.
hahahaha!!! to each their own! i can respect that!
What’s crazy is you say you never had any real guy that knows it show you and you don’t “know the moves “ so how can you say it isn’t efficient first off it’s not jus for short fighters you don’t lean forward you slip jabs that’s a side to side movement doesn’t matter how tall you are so many people speak on this style but don’t know nothing about it yet make a video saying the style doesn’t work lol tell Jose Torres , Floyd Patterson and Mike Tyson that . Floyd and Mike two youngest heavyweight champs we ever had
If peekaboo was so goddamn effective, we’d have seen more than a handful iconic ones over the past 50 years. Heck, I tell you what…I’ve seen more champions with an ugly Mexican brawling style than with peekaboo…so what does that tell you?
@@expertboxing no no no man it’s very effective they were using it right it’s not a high guard thing and the Mexican brawling style jus a fan favorite Pacquiao use that to a point that’s why he got clipped on the chin the peek a boo style is not something eveybody knows cus taught it personally and made it exciting no boxer exited more people than mike tyson FACTS
@@expertboxing lol it was created by cus d amato it’s not a universal style a high guard is not peek a boo matter of fact it’s not even called the peek a boo style you can’t teach it or show it by watching mike fights on UA-cam
You told the truth!! It’s a style that’s only meant for certain people, but combining the philly shell is probably the only way to make it effective to today’s standards
Yeaup...and you're digging at a deeper truth. Which is that you have to incorporate bits from every style in a way that fits your body. This way you can truly adapt to any opponent. All the best fighters shift around between various styles.
Manny Pacquao??????
I see it too lol
Panny Macquao
bruh
Peekaboo stance is hardest style to learn if you're not already built for it. It requires stocky and short people with insane cardio. The stance itself is defensive and it's hard to load punches if you don't constantly slip and weave. if you're anywhere above 6 foot this style is nonsense
AMEN!
its just a bad style for you.
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Peekaboo is for the streets.
What do you mean? Would you like to elaborate on that?
Neither Floyd Patterson nor Jose Torres had the benefit of Tyson's body type and both became world champions using this style. Three guesses who trained them both and the first two don't count. Tyson stopped using this style when he became emotionally unstable. End of story.
Both Patterson and Torres are short. 3 champs in the entire history of modern boxing with that style...and the most notable of them all had stylistic issues with it EVEN IN HIS PRIME. The PAB style, like every other boxing style, has weaknesses. Get over it.
This channel is for serious boxers to learn about real-world style advantages & disadvantages. Not the place for overly-emotional attached butthurt fanboys keyboard-debating. If you're even a real boxer, you belong in a gym and working on your craft. If you're just a casual fan, then you belong on some Tyson hype video. Either way, this channel obviously ain't your place.
@@expertboxing No. Patterson was 6 feet tall, which is not short for that era. Torres was 5'10" which is also not short for a light heavyweight of that era, and Torres, in fact, started as a middle weight. I'm retired. I don't think spending all day in the gym at the age of 61 is going to be productive. If you're really trying to get people to learn, you actually have to teach something instead of standing around, running your mouth, wearing boxing gloves for six minutes. You are hilarious, though. Keep up the good work.
You obviously don't know jack shit about the fighters you preach. Get yo ass on Google and do at least basic research to know he's small. Listed height ain't shit, ppl felt he was even shorter than Frazier.
And since you're that far behind, you can actually watch my channel to know that I teach and demonstrate many things. Not every video is a technical demonstration. Some videos are simple Q&A like this that I answer for my worldwide fans. Because that's what I do...doing my best to answer every student.
So THANK YOU for racking up views and adding commentary (which makes me $$$)...but your shitty attitude and blatant lack of knowledge isn't welcome. GTFOH. *peace*
Says "I never trained the "peek-a-boo" style, I never, like, officially learned it from anybody... I've never had anybody try to teach it to me..." Proceeds to do nothing but wear a pair of boxing gloves and bash what he never learned or trained for the next 5 1/2 minutes. Very entertaining. I haven't laughed so hard in months.
Only thing funny is how the entire video went over your head. It's not hard to see a style's inefficiency from the outside.