The Problem with Peek-a-Boo - Everyone an Expert?

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  • @myboxingcoach
    @myboxingcoach  2 роки тому +1

    Go here to download your free ebook The Beginner Boxer Toolkit - www.myboxingcoach.com/

    • @dusandragovic09srb
      @dusandragovic09srb 11 місяців тому

      Make the World Box to save it!🙏💪
      Shadow boxing alone can get you far!
      ua-cam.com/video/9a3rMm2zmk8/v-deo.html

  • @lexlavi
    @lexlavi 3 роки тому +192

    “Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist” -Picasso

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +15

      One of my favourite quotes👍

    • @boxingforselfdefence7620
      @boxingforselfdefence7620 3 роки тому

      @@myboxingcoach it's not strictly speaking true though, as a concept. The reality is that most people with a particular niche or style, started with that from an early age and just developed it, e.g. Ali. thinking/working differently doesn't just happen one day, it's a compulsion. Most greats started young. Children don't care about rules they absorb a form insofar as it works for them and they will experiment insofar as it yields successful outcomes.

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +8

      Yes, that's a viewpoint. I tend to take it from an angle of saying that every newcomer to boxing goes through a certain process (which can vary from coach to coach) but that involves learning the fundamentals through regular and deliberate practice. I take that as approaching the learning process like a pro. From their, they learn by doing which is exactly where your point comes in.

    • @boxingforselfdefence7620
      @boxingforselfdefence7620 3 роки тому

      @@myboxingcoach yes. I think there are obvious dangers to encouraging people to go and find themselves stylistically but also dangers to not embracing stylistic niches that bear fruit.

    • @HeyDoNotSubscribe
      @HeyDoNotSubscribe 3 роки тому +1

      Beautiful

  • @LeeH3nson
    @LeeH3nson 3 роки тому +60

    Fair enough addressing them fran, but your body of work speaks for itself, you're a very good public educator on the sweet science

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +3

      Thank you pal

    • @JBplumbing12
      @JBplumbing12 2 роки тому

      It seems to me that the feet must be wide enough to aid lateral slips, and stance/steps must also be long enough to enable quick advance into close range when slips are used as entries for offending. But what would I know, I'm not even a boxer, just a bushie who punches stringy barks.

    • @williamstiltner531
      @williamstiltner531 4 місяці тому

      Agree 100%

  • @badgerbush3556
    @badgerbush3556 3 роки тому +190

    I think some people forget that what worked for Mike Tyson worked, because he was Mike Tyson.

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +44

      You know what, that's a fair point!

    • @badgerbush3556
      @badgerbush3556 3 роки тому +2

      Fran Sands
      Thanks Fran your a good man and I'm a big fan. 👍

    • @stans9293
      @stans9293 3 роки тому +25

      @@myboxingcoach Eventually Mike Tyson could no longer fight like Mike Tyson. He gained some weight and the core strength faded a bit with lack of focus. That powerful style is tough to maintain for several rounds

    • @BallisticaMetal
      @BallisticaMetal 3 роки тому +5

      @@stans9293 That's the reason he used to have legs like trunks. And also people forget how he in his prime struggled against James Tillis and other fighters that took him to 12 rounds.

    • @PhoenixProdLLC
      @PhoenixProdLLC 3 роки тому +1

      @@myboxingcoach I watched an old Patterson fight...the series with Ingmar (geez he knocked him down like 6 times in one fight but Floyd got him back for it :P)... do you see a similarity from Floyd to Mikes peek-a-boo, or am I assuming it?

  • @demarcjohnson
    @demarcjohnson 3 роки тому +186

    Everyone is an expert until they get punched in the face.

    • @onthebeachinsitges
      @onthebeachinsitges 3 роки тому +19

      Everyone is an expert when they get used to being punched in the face and still get into the ring with a view to learning

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +28

      Never a truer word 👍

    • @biscuit7959
      @biscuit7959 2 роки тому +1

      @@onthebeachinsitges once you get hit you will wake up before you learn how to dodge those

    • @roarrrist
      @roarrrist 2 роки тому +1

      So what do you propose? Stop all analytics? Stop the studies?

    • @lefthandwarlock8503
      @lefthandwarlock8503 Рік тому

      you’re not mike tyson

  • @nicolay3187
    @nicolay3187 3 роки тому +55

    Tyson's stance is squared when he's in close, or he would bring his feet closer together before switching lead legs. To say he was always squared means he doesn't know the style.

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +13

      Yep, my thoughts exactly Nick.

    • @nicolay3187
      @nicolay3187 3 роки тому +2

      @@myboxingcoach Yeah it's a natural boxer stance that mostly cuts off the ring and shuffles forward, once he's in the corner he starts cutting lose with short range, but powerful punches.

    • @nicolay3187
      @nicolay3187 3 роки тому +3

      @@myboxingcoach with a few exceptions like a gazelle type punch off of a slip

    • @nicolay3187
      @nicolay3187 3 роки тому +1

      @@myboxingcoach That's more like peek-a-boo, the only real expert would be Cus

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +1

      Yep, of course a staple of Floyd Patterson - belter shot.

  • @EternalEyeEntertain
    @EternalEyeEntertain 2 роки тому +35

    I agree. It's important to not be too indoctrinated about a fight style. I love the Peek A Boo style. But even Cus himself would never teach everyone the same way. He'd work with what you already had as a natural talent or trait, be it height, weight, speed, durability etc. As an eclectic martial artist, I believe in learning something and use from it what you will, for either self defense or sport. Good video. Cheers.

    • @Jokoman019
      @Jokoman019 2 роки тому +4

      Exactly if you watch how Jose Torres and Floyd Patterson used it it was almost COMPLETELY different than how Tyson would go on to use it, people get to obsessed with mimicking move for move what tyson did and don’t understand that for 99% of people if you try to use it exactly how tyson did your probably gonna get pummeled in there cause tyson was a once in a generation physical specimen who could go from standing straight up to slipping side to side out of the center line but most people cant do that in a actual fight

    • @EternalEyeEntertain
      @EternalEyeEntertain Рік тому

      @@shankarjaiswal1249 I think so. But in boxing? Or overall self defense?

    • @EternalEyeEntertain
      @EternalEyeEntertain Рік тому

      @@Jokoman019 Couldn't agree more. I only use a few things from the Cus method. Especially the spring and twist. Boy I love that footwork. Because as an eclectic martial artist, it puts me in a perfect grappling position without having to depend on shooting for a single.

    • @giovelazquez8872
      @giovelazquez8872 10 місяців тому +1

      @@EternalEyeEntertainWhat footwork?

    • @EternalEyeEntertain
      @EternalEyeEntertain 10 місяців тому

      @@giovelazquez8872 Thanks for the reply. 🙂 The peekaboo style footwork. Moving forward in a way that cuts off the boxer who likes to pack peddle. But particular like the Spring, the twist and the cus D'amato shift. And overall balance. As a grappler I appreate ways to get in close fast and efficiently. I can send you some links of Mike Tyson and his friend Tom Patti, explaining the science behind it.

  • @Jorary209
    @Jorary209 3 роки тому +16

    Lol I love the sarcasm and gestures with each comment.
    Everyone's an expert in the UA-cam comments and want to impose it on everyone oppresively. Nice video!

    • @Shad0wmoses
      @Shad0wmoses 3 роки тому +3

      i know right...i from time to time will chime in on my knowledge based on what ive learned from watching videos and my minimum amount of irl training and even from just watching fights..but if i know the person is a coach or a fighter ill shut the fuck up. i see so many arm chair experts on instagram even trying to argue with pro fighters as if they have any expertise or experience in anything related to fighting when they don't!

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +2

      😀. Thanks for watching

  • @trodriguez362
    @trodriguez362 3 роки тому +9

    the jab, left and right hook, right cross, upper cuts, it's amazing how these boxers take that and build upon that to create a style to suit their physicality. my favorite is James l lights out Tony, he created angles, positioned himself to counter punch,

  • @bradbuckinghamhandsomeprin6027
    @bradbuckinghamhandsomeprin6027 3 роки тому +20

    I've done some TKD, some kickboxing and some boxing, but Fran Sands is an elite level boxing coach. In my opinion if I disagree with Fran Sands about what he says about boxing the most reasonable explanation is that I don't know as much as I think I do.

    • @PhoenixProdLLC
      @PhoenixProdLLC 3 роки тому +3

      This. And fwiw, I prefer to have this disposition towards any legit trainer. They know, I don't. Pretty simple really 😂😂

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks Brad, really kind. I guess I'm a coach who coaches, and therefore you learn over time that there is always more to learn 👍

    • @bradbuckinghamhandsomeprin6027
      @bradbuckinghamhandsomeprin6027 3 роки тому +1

      There is always more to learn. I wish that I would have had access to your channel when I was boxing and kickboxing. I am very glad to have access now, even though I probably won't be fighting anymore at 47 years old with 2 jobs. I have recently started stretching and since then my back and body can handle hard exercise on the bag (have not been able to do that for at least 4 years, thought it was my age, turns out flexibility imbalances cause problems) I've been hard at it in my garage for a few months now and feel much younger, even sleeping better which has been a serious past issue. Thanks for what you do.

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +2

      Good man, keep at it Brad, consistency will pay off 👍

  • @samir.ebrahim
    @samir.ebrahim 3 роки тому +16

    I made the same mistake choosing solely the peekaboo style. But I learned that it wasn't suited to me completely. So I started looking at other fighters, their skills, their strengths. What coach Fran is saying, from my experience is the truest statement you will ever hear. Once I started learning other skills and strengths, I became a better fighter overall. Because at the end of the day, the fact is you aren't mike Tyson. It's just that simple. Individuals will have different strengths and weaknesses, a great fighter works on those every day. You can't indentify them or get better if you are in the illusion that you are mike Tyson.

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +2

      That's it Samir...be versatile, have many answers 👍

    • @Bruh01234
      @Bruh01234 2 роки тому

      I like Canelos style but I seem to get caught to much I’ve decided to maybe be more in and out than just walking the opponent down

    • @Bruh01234
      @Bruh01234 2 роки тому

      Can u give me any tips on helping me find my strengths and weaknesses so I can work on my strengths to build a style perfect for me?

    • @samir.ebrahim
      @samir.ebrahim 2 роки тому

      @@Bruh01234 sparring and feedback

  • @Brucelee-pv6uf
    @Brucelee-pv6uf 2 роки тому +1

    1:00 (staying square ) not slip with legs
    4:45 not square at long range
    5:50 philly shell
    6:25 waist bent
    8:10versatile boxers great boxers

  • @LosDjango007
    @LosDjango007 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks for your time. Appreciate it.

  • @fisharefriends598
    @fisharefriends598 2 роки тому +5

    Having just watched a few break downs of Tyson, he actually had a slightly more relaxed squared stance. The hosts comments not mine. With video evidence of the original “peekaboo” fighters, before tyson.
    Tyson would shift from relaxed square to tight squared, depending on needs
    Peekaboo is the basic ethos of it… what made it Tyson’s style was his height, this opponents height. It was catered to tyson and what he had to do to win the heavyweight

  • @edwardjkeogh
    @edwardjkeogh 3 роки тому +6

    I'm no expert but your analysis makes sense to me. Tyson didn't stand square at distance, he closed very quickly before squaring up. Once inside he would move or pivot to the left or right of his opponent into orthodox or southpaw stance to throw combinations from angles. In his prime he would change stances very quickly always transitioning. I'm going to try out your beginner boxer toolkit for fitness. Keep the insightful content coming!!

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +1

      Yes Edward, just about spot on. Thanks for watching pal and for your kind words 👍

  • @-NemoMeImpuneLacessit
    @-NemoMeImpuneLacessit 3 роки тому +16

    There's an old saying "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing", some of the comments you read out demonstrated that truism.

  • @spear73
    @spear73 3 роки тому +1

    Yes Fran, enjoying your video on my morning break,be like water be versatile like a egg and have the open mindset

  • @johntay3831
    @johntay3831 Рік тому +1

    mike tyson was short and had a very low center of gravity, thats why he suited the Peekaboo style so well. If you were to get Dmitry Bivol to do the peekaboo style, he would fail badly. Shadow box, move around and find your own style.

  • @alessandroferro5308
    @alessandroferro5308 3 роки тому

    they can't stand your intellectual honesty coach...you are the man!

  • @williamstiltner531
    @williamstiltner531 4 місяці тому

    I wouldn't care so much what people have to say negative about you or your channel. Im trying to fight before i get too old to do it. You have solid info in the content of yours ive saw. Keep doing what youre doing. Ive got ko power in both hands. Id love to have a coach teach me peek a boo. But ive yet to find one willing or knowledgeable enough. Keep coaching coach, fighters like me appreciate your channel.

  • @mardub7568
    @mardub7568 3 роки тому +4

    Fran, you are a legend. I wish i had opportunity to train in your gym. Stay safe during this difficult times 👍

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you, that's really kind. You keep yourself safe and well too 👍

  • @davewarrender2056
    @davewarrender2056 2 роки тому

    Luv this , I'm trying to learn boxing for fitness and defense. But I'm 52 , disabled . However I did train m/a for 20 yrs when younger. The point about Mike Tyson's stance when out of range is spot on. After analysing my stance , I do the same , a side on stance allows to cover distance more quickly , increase the effective range of the jab and right hand,. Also transition from side on to square on at close range is easy, as you can open up your stance as your back foot moves with the right, thus allowing you to be ready to initiate peek a boo side slips , and foot work. Also slipping back to side on allows for fast and effective movement out of range

  • @stevencarrillo3615
    @stevencarrillo3615 7 місяців тому

    Like any style of boxing there is a weakness but understanding how to use the style important that is key.

  • @billyettouati1124
    @billyettouati1124 3 роки тому +2

    I loved the 90 second video when I watched it the first time cuz you were the only one who looked like to incorporate the right basic boxing stance with correct head movement the way you should without compromising balance and correct form and movement. Anyone else showing how to do it on here just believed it was just square with your hands at your chin but anyone who would try that would get flattened by any real competitor

  • @stevem1467
    @stevem1467 Рік тому +1

    So many beginners are trying to copy Tyson and mayweather these days stick to the basic amateur stuff these guys were one in a million

  • @WalterGomes30
    @WalterGomes30 3 роки тому +1

    You are a gentleman. Keep up the excellent work.

  • @genises200
    @genises200 3 роки тому +5

    Been waiting for this one!! Could you show how to slip getting inside to set up a combo. Lot of dudes have a great jab to keep away and especially a tall one

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +3

      Think I must have done so already, feels like I have, but I'm a bit absent-minded. will check and if I haven't it's on the list👍

    • @williamoforangedidnothingwrong
      @williamoforangedidnothingwrong 3 роки тому +1

      Great suggestion, been thinking of that myself

    • @genises200
      @genises200 3 роки тому +1

      @@myboxingcoach slipping very well in place yes! But moving forward or to move at an angle for a slip, to see the footwork process

    • @ogeh1268
      @ogeh1268 3 роки тому

      @@genises200 use lateral movement

  • @blackoutgaming8246
    @blackoutgaming8246 3 роки тому +1

    Fran Sands do you have your own boxing gym? I would love to join one day

  • @kxe7934
    @kxe7934 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Fran,
    Can you do some "how-tos" about how to about to box-like Marvelous Marvin Hagler, or Sugar Ray Leonard?

  • @genises200
    @genises200 3 роки тому +2

    The Chad returns

  • @thespiritbehindyou2.o935
    @thespiritbehindyou2.o935 2 роки тому +1

    He got squared when he got close and less squared the further away he way

  • @inhometraineroakville1174
    @inhometraineroakville1174 3 роки тому +14

    With Peekaboo, we're seeing the exact same problem with traditional martial arts. All these people arguing about what real Peekaboo is and isn't. There is nothing wrong with any of the arts. It's all the self proclaimed experts who mess things up.
    I once spoke to a Peekaboo "coach" who told me I should actually place my hands on my face like glue. Try sparring like that and see what happens. If you take a shot on your forearms which is inevitable during sparring, you'll punch yourself!

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +2

      Ha. Exactly Chris. Be open and willing to understand all kinds of variations on a theme, it pays off in delivering a rounded competitor.

  • @bripowered
    @bripowered 3 роки тому +1

    Nevermind the negative comments Fran, Thanks for all you do for the community and the hard work that you put into your content.

  • @johnsolagbade7532
    @johnsolagbade7532 3 роки тому +1

    👍🏾 learning the full range of skills and cultivate them all. Yes, Fran 👏🏽

  • @scooterpower59
    @scooterpower59 3 роки тому +1

    Great Channel. Great Job Coach!
    T Shaped for this V Tapered.

  • @ryannaidoo8566
    @ryannaidoo8566 10 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for mentioning Floyd Patterson, maybe now people can see how you can make peekaboo your own.

  • @graemesfitness6032
    @graemesfitness6032 3 роки тому +19

    I'm sure they all have boxing gyms and produced fighters.Listen to them lol.

  • @DavidFlores-yd1pj
    @DavidFlores-yd1pj 3 роки тому +1

    Good video sir. I was kinda curious, what books you have on the shelf back there?

  • @mindyourownbastardbu
    @mindyourownbastardbu 2 роки тому

    A beer and a chat about boxing at the Phil one day Fran. Listening to you makes me miss Liverpool man, and the practical logical approach of scousers. Best in da wairld 😋🤝❤️🤝😋

  • @fuadmuradov480
    @fuadmuradov480 3 роки тому

    Any style is more an element or no way is the way . I would not copy any stile but would use elements out of them.

  • @TheLockon00
    @TheLockon00 3 роки тому +5

    "Little emoji: angry devil face." Oh, yikes. Not the angry devil face.

  • @derrick_smitty
    @derrick_smitty 3 роки тому

    I was getting angrier with each comment. These commenters must have stumbled across this one particular video and are not aware of your credentials. Your peek a boo style video was an excellent review of the approach. Keep up the good work coach.

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому

      Thank you Derrick, really appreciate your comment 👍

  • @patrickjay1400
    @patrickjay1400 3 роки тому

    🤣🤣 "im a martial artist!" 👌
    Love this mate

  • @Bruh01234
    @Bruh01234 2 роки тому

    Can u give me any tips on helping me find my strengths and weaknesses so I can work on my strengths to build a style perfect for me?

  • @jimmybrennan9
    @jimmybrennan9 3 роки тому

    Great response Fran, you receive far more positive comments off boxers and coaches some with real good reputations rather than keyboard coaches, some who have probably never laced a pair of gloves on their lives. Keep doing what your doing Pal, wouldn't even bother with the haters myself. Good man

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you Jim, that really means a lot. The comments are funny more than anything, just wanted to use them as an opportunity to get people to think about practicing versatility. As you and I know, however good you think you are at one style, it's only a matter of time before you meet someone who's better at that style than you, so you need the skills to execute a Plan B - in my case I often got down to Plan G and still took a hiding :-) April 12th mate, can't come quick enough!

  • @duncantwaits5809
    @duncantwaits5809 3 роки тому

    Hey there Fran, great conversation! You have a good philosophy of coaching, cheers from dow under!

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому

      Thanks Duncan, hope all is well.

    • @duncantwaits5809
      @duncantwaits5809 3 роки тому

      @@myboxingcoach Doing ok thanks Fran, I trust that all is well with you also.

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому

      @@duncantwaits5809 Yes mate, getting by thanks 👍

    • @duncantwaits5809
      @duncantwaits5809 3 роки тому

      @@myboxingcoach 👍😎

  • @arichster
    @arichster 3 місяці тому

    I loved that you have the comfort level to read quite insulting comments, without regard to the merits of comment. Of course in your I shaped comparison to the t-shape I understand his narrow points but I love the way that you deal with it in the bigger picture. As a kid I was a huge fan of Floyd Patterson. If only he had a chin.. boxing, as everything else in life, is situational and the situation can turn from one second to the next. I boxed as a young guy and then managed. I trained at Gil Clancy's gym (who hated my cutie to the last dancing style). The best of his fighters were multi-dimensional. I became a trial lawyer and very much like you discuss about boxing and the peek-a-boo, everything has its time and place. As a trial lawyer, there are times when you want to cross-examine a witness and closely listen to where they give you an opening and go in and almost blind Side them. The witness might think they got their best punch off, but you just parry and take them someplace that they opened up and didn't realize at all how they gave you a huge opening. Other times you may not ask a single question of a witness. Kind of letting them punch themselves out. Other times, other witnesses, you have a very specific plan, their testimony is predictable and you can take it apart. Put like all these boxing styles they have to vary dependient on the style of the fighter, his size, his movement, his punching patterns, his strengths and weaknesses. And you have to have the ringmanship to know when to exercise one style and when to shift into another. When to come in with short blasts--when to be more defensive. And importantly to know what your own strengths and abilities are and your own limitations. Your response to these comments we're great. You transcend merely coaching technique but also coach boxing wisdom. As a trial lawyer I represented Mitch blood green against Mike Tyson over a street brawl they had in Harlem. Perhaps the greatest honor I had was at that trial...to examine Jose Torres who at the time of the incident had been New York State athletic commissioner. He was quite a man in addition to having been a great boxer. And he was man enough to admit that because he came out of the Cus D'Aato camp, he had great affection for Mike Tyson.. and he acknowledged it's closed his judgement bwhen he forced green to fight Tyson after green learned had been lied to by his own "manager" Carl King, Don's adopted. Soon would force Carl on fighters he promoted and of course Carl never protected the fighters interest, but was a shill for Don King's promoting business. When green and Tyson had their street fight, green was demanding a rematch after Tyson's 10-round decision over green. Tyson told Green said to a green talk to Don King...who would never give Green another fight because he publicly mouthed off at King for cheating him. Which is what led to the street fight. When Green tried to pull out of the fight when he learned that Tustin was actually getting about 30 times what Green was earning for the fight he tried to pull out. Torres had told Green that if he pulled out of their original fight at the Garden he would make sure that green never fought again in the country. Torres came into the trial reflective of the huge mistake he made when he forced Green to fight Tyson after Green had been promised by Carl King that he and Tyson would be getting the same pay and at that point green was even ranked higher than Tyson though when Green saw Tyson on the street Tyson was already champ.. In reality, that was the first HBO multi-fight deal, a promotional deal separate from the purse where Tyson had gotten nearly a half million dollars to enter into just this party of the deal with HBO over his purse. Green got 30,000 USD for the fight. Torres admitted that as boxing commissioner, he he was partial to Tyson and Cus and didn't investigate the facts. So what is the point of all this? Fighters need as much protection in being managed as they do being coached and trained for inside the ring. It is a dirty business and fights inside the ring are usually much cleaner than what happens outside the ring. But while the fighter is focused on developing his skills and craft, I would love to hear you or someone you're confident in to talk a little bit about the business, how boxers need to learn to protect themselves in the big picture. Hope to learn to associate with the fright people. King would carry large wads of cast and give fighters cash which impressed many of these kids who never saw that kind of cash. They would be impressed and swayed. He'll of a way to decide would would prime or manage you.And after green won the case over tyson, Mike's check BOUNCED. That's when TYSON realized he was broke, a owed remendous money in taxes and that Don King used him as a gravy train and sucked him dry. That was the beginning of the Tyson King spit. Tyson had profile been well protected by his managers Jimmy Jacobs and Bill caton. But literally following Jimmy Jacobs' funeral, Don King got Tyson in his car and pitched how he needed a black person to protect his interests. Joe lewis, one of the all time greats who pitched us savings bonds for the government, wound up broke because of taxes he didn't understand he owed. The fate of so many top boxers is often the tale of someone who was exploited and kicked off the curb when they no longer to produce large purses. So I love watching the technique and ringmanship​ you teach, but forgive me and I know most people watch your videos are not in these positions. But someone can learn your great technique and on the business side, be as vulnerable as a fighter who goes into the ring with his hands down and his chin out. Please please please talk about the importance finding the right people to protect the boxer outside the ring as well as you coach them to do what's needed inside the ring.
    Beautiful work.

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  2 місяці тому

      What a fantastic contribution. Thank you. I sat up in my chair when I saw the name Gil Clancy, that's a fight name to conjure with! I really enjoyed reading through your comment. I get the sense that your mix of boxing knowledge and expertise alongside your career stories would make a fantastic memoir...definitely one I would read! The great shame of boxing historically is that fighters are ultimately on their own when it comes to making boxing part of a good life that can sustain them in the long term. I'm really not sure that the sport has learned anything on that in the last 10 years...the fighter is still primarily a vehicle for others to make money, if some active body could bring financial and life advice alongside supporting them during the fighting years I would be more inclined to encourage my boxers to move into the pros. As it stands, unless they have nothing else to offer as a livelihood I actively discourage it. For every Floyd Mayweather Jr there are 10000 fighters who sacrificed just as much and ended up with nothing, and with no capability to learn new skills when the fighting days were gone. Thank you again, great comment.

    • @arichster
      @arichster Місяць тому

      @@myboxingcoach Wow. Thank you for your reply. I can see you are a wonderful technical, mental and emotional coach to your fighters. How lucky to have you. Best regards, Alan

  • @skiunarara1462
    @skiunarara1462 3 роки тому +2

    If you were my coach sir, I would be so happy to learn from you👍👍
    You're the best Mr Sands🤜🤛✊✊

  • @hoop6988
    @hoop6988 3 роки тому +1

    Those side bends to the waist might be a reason why Mike had spinal problems.

    • @MarkWhippy
      @MarkWhippy Рік тому

      It’s from when he used to roll the top of his head on the floor to strengthen his neck.

  • @harveerbenning169
    @harveerbenning169 3 роки тому +1

    I mean take elements from it like Tyson shifts possibly use the movement etc when you need too, but I mean you don’t want to emulate someone else you want your own style

  • @folknblues1
    @folknblues1 3 роки тому

    Tyson in close did square up sometimes, but he also used angles, and switched stance. Good point about him not being able to go square from long range. I associate peekaboo with shorter/smaller fighters, like Tyson (5'10", or so.) Patterson was about 6', maybe a bit less, and weighed mid-180s. A boxer adopts and adapts a style that matches his size and personality. If Frazier had stood 4 or 5 inches taller, he'd have been just as aggressive, but I doubt he'd have relied quite as much on bobbing and weaving. In the case of Kenny Norton, I thought his adopting the cross-armed stance was a mistake, particularly against Foreman, who took advantage of the opening provided for his hook to the body. Ironically, in his second career, Big George also used the cross-arm stance.

  • @danrolli3576
    @danrolli3576 Рік тому

    But you have a point I say learn different styles are different approaches. That makes you better. What difference does it make for me? I’m going to be 59L O L when I boxed I used to lead with my face lol I just hit hard I learn more when I got older.

  • @ryanbates8816
    @ryanbates8816 3 роки тому

    Love your vids picking up some awesome techniques 👌

  • @floxwood3958
    @floxwood3958 3 роки тому +1

    Where should my hands be when slipping and using headmovement?

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +5

      Generally speaking, high. Some more experienced boxers drop their hands, but they do so understanding and accepting the risks based on backing their ability to avoid shots with body movement and land their own shots with the openings created.

  • @kyunanwarrior765
    @kyunanwarrior765 3 роки тому

    woo,you are amazing sir

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому

      Thank you very much, that's really kind oif you to say and thank you for watching👍

  • @nathanthompson6050
    @nathanthompson6050 3 роки тому

    Two of the best examples of what is said in this video are Floyd Patterson and Lomenchenko. Watch their fights in slow motion, particularly Loma's Olympic bouts and tell me you don't see a ton of the high guard, head movement, angles, shifting, square stance at close range, etc exactly like Tyson and then look at all the other techniques employed as well and you can see how the stereotypical techniques of peek a boo can be combined to create very versatile multi dimensional fighters. Watch Patterson vs Chuvalo to see a less aggressive Patterson who stays on the outside and ties up a lot on the inside very much the opposite of traditional peek a boo.

  • @habibmalik1619
    @habibmalik1619 3 роки тому

    Thank you very much Master for your helpful videos. Please keep it up and don't get distracted by ignorant fools.
    You're an amazing coach. God bless you!

  • @kostasskks7547
    @kostasskks7547 3 роки тому +5

    Greetings coach! 💪🥊🥊🥊🇬🇷🇬🇧

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +1

      greetings to you sir👍

    • @kostasskks7547
      @kostasskks7547 3 роки тому +1

      @@myboxingcoach thank you for sharing your lights!

  • @Migles91
    @Migles91 2 роки тому

    Yes I tried a strict style and and it made be a good at it but no matter what it limits u no😉

  • @DRS659
    @DRS659 3 роки тому +2

    Fran you're a wild man haaha gonna get the youtube weirdos worked up again. Glad to see you're still having fun with it. Any thoughts on BJS v Canelo? Also had a question about the kelly fight and I'm definitely not trying to make excuses but that kid lost a lot of blood and I was curious if that could have effected him at all or if you've seen it effect a fighter before. Like getting light headed sort of thing?

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +2

      Hey Tyler, thanks pal. I think BJS may frustrate Canelo for a short while, he's a smart and elusive boxer, but I doubt he can do much more than that. As for Josh, one of them things. Doubt it was blood loss, looked like a lot of blood (weird place for a cut) but not enough to weaken. I just think his tactics may have been a bit off. Avanesyan is a skilled and tough fighter, I think Kelly would have needed 100% concentration for 12 rounds executing a smart and aggressive fighting retreat. He'll come again, bags of talent, hard work and heart.

  • @SwissCheese112
    @SwissCheese112 3 роки тому

    I mean any style is adapted to the individual because just like in life individuals are all different, so they will fight differently regardless of the style.

  • @mgtowsoldier8673
    @mgtowsoldier8673 3 роки тому

    Technically superb fran....keep doing what your doing....never listen to anyone whos not pulled the gloves on....

  • @petetimpone8023
    @petetimpone8023 3 роки тому

    My son is 8, short but powerful. He has a hard time with opponents that have a longer reach. I'm weighing my options of teaching him the peekaboo style. He is beginning his amateur journey. Pointers?

  • @williambaker7181
    @williambaker7181 Місяць тому

    I saw an episode of hotboxing with Tyson and Leonard - they were joking about how many people got knocked out trying to copy them and mayweather.
    Personally, I think its the ducking action with peekaboo that's so hard. My knees just won't take my head downward fast enough.
    Tysons knees are like elastic bands.

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  Місяць тому

      Haha, obvious to those guys. Yes, getting the speed on the duck is hard with teenage knees let along when they have carried us about for a few decades.

  • @rondocombatgems3949
    @rondocombatgems3949 2 роки тому

    The reason Tyson squared his stance when he got close was for maximum leverage he was taught to throw punches with bad intentions to get his whole body into every punch look at his uppercuts devastating

  • @DippyHippie69
    @DippyHippie69 3 роки тому

    I agree completely

  • @Khaled-bd9cq
    @Khaled-bd9cq 2 роки тому

    Is peekaboo style working good with me I'm 6'1 ??

  • @ryannaidoo8566
    @ryannaidoo8566 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for mentioning the other peekaboo champions, learn it then make it your own

  • @austinboren161
    @austinboren161 3 роки тому

    I’m 6’4 at 155, peekaboo is what I my coach teaches, I prefer a much more bladed stance as I have skateboarded and pitched in baseball all my life so it feels more natural standing sideways and I feel that peekaboo almost working against my natural advantages, what others could I potentially research and try?

    • @c9dp232
      @c9dp232 3 роки тому +3

      Ur to tall for this style way to tall😂😂

    • @doom6992
      @doom6992 2 роки тому +1

      Tomas hearns, Larry Holmes, Erick el terrible morales and Gerald maccnelan
      Wacht this boxers
      Sorry for my bad english im from México

  • @ninjashogun
    @ninjashogun 3 роки тому

    My peekaboo style is totally cracked out... U GOTTA SLIP WITH BOTH LEGS AND WAIST - u gotta square with the opponent and be able to change back to stance. People saying u gotta be square no u gotta be able to get in and out of your foot position go square and go back to regular stance u gotta keep your back heel up and you gotta use that hip snap for SLIP and pivot... if u just practice an endless SLIP with a hook over and over like a Twitter or whrirlwind your peekaboo will be good. U gotta be able to SLIP and use the momentum for skip to transfer into a punch than absorb that movement back into a SLIP.... think of a whirlwind or a Twitter... the movement must be fluid and not stoppy or stiff... like water flowing down a drain.. tyson had a good peekaboo. Probably one of the best. Tyson switches from regular stance square and south paw over and over and over just look at how he uses the change of feet position to launch incredible punches using the momentum like a ball rolling down the hill.

  • @tosinade1608
    @tosinade1608 3 роки тому

    Good insight on the Mike Tyson and Floyd styles

  • @sakurabaLP
    @sakurabaLP 3 роки тому

    Great video, mister Fran!! Make a video about Rocky Marciano style, PLEASE!!! 😎

  • @Brucelee-pv6uf
    @Brucelee-pv6uf 2 роки тому

    I dont like people who comment like that 😖
    U can comment and ssay ur opinion in humble respectable way
    90 sec was short to explain everything
    I really love u and what u doing ❤

  • @HittokiriBatosai
    @HittokiriBatosai 3 роки тому +2

    "No it isn't" 😂😂😂
    Excellent point-by-point rebuttal

  • @heatherrigby7371
    @heatherrigby7371 3 роки тому

    Brilliant

  • @domelectric798
    @domelectric798 3 роки тому

    🍻way to stay positive coach....once again proving that this is a very mental/ cerebral sport....

  • @ronaldyang2295
    @ronaldyang2295 3 роки тому +1

    As another martial artist, that one guy made me super embarrassed. Probably a hotheaded young kid, nice response Fran. If possible could you check out Dustin Poirier in the UFC? Interesting guard and would like to hear what you’ve got to say about it. Also would like to hear what you think about Jersey Joe Walcott. Great stuff as always mate!

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks Ronald, appreicate that. Thank you also for the Dustin suggestion. I've head his name but not taken the time to check him out, so I've just made a note in my reminder pad to have a look. Jersey Joe - great fighter. Someone I think who should be mentioned alongside Joe Louis for bringing boxing styles on...if that makes sense? I should put some time into articulating it in a video. Cheers pal.

  • @condorgaming4000
    @condorgaming4000 20 днів тому

    Mike Tyson was ambidextrous which made the peekaboo style unpredictable for him since his stance was squared

  • @waynehawkins7581
    @waynehawkins7581 2 роки тому

    I agree with you

  • @miaandfam7770
    @miaandfam7770 2 роки тому

    I have thought about this style and think I am going to adapt this am new to boxing and am training for a white collar charity fight and am having trouble with my footwork am southpaw aswell anyway thanks for the video any advice would be great people

  • @lexlavi
    @lexlavi 3 роки тому

    Another great vid Fran! Could you or anyone offer advice on how I can be firm in my stance. My opponents can easily walk me down or I’m also easily knocked backed or to the side. Thanks!

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +1

      It's all about you deciding to give ground. It's not a battle of strength, it's a battle of brains. Have a little look at this. Give ground, but take make them pay for the ground you give - ua-cam.com/video/ns26EKKemkM/v-deo.html

  • @joshuacreel9668
    @joshuacreel9668 Рік тому

    T shape very well-spoken

  • @LordSteveFinnegan
    @LordSteveFinnegan 3 роки тому

    Another poignant and well articulated video coach 👏 keep them coming

  • @markant9534
    @markant9534 3 роки тому +1

    Hello Fran, have you heard of a youtube channel called Fouts boxing theory? He has done a series of vids discrediting vids by you and other youtube trainers, his channel is great but I would love your input on a vid he did about one of your vids x

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +1

      Hello Mark, I hope you are well. Yes, someone sent me that a while ago. That kid's a boxing fan who has now decided he can coach. Never boxed. Never been coached and definitely never coached anyone. Marvin Cook and Anthony, maybe 40 years each as competitors and coaches. Myself about the same, but this scruffy kid with no background other than watching fights is better placed? No, trying to be controversial for attention on YT. I like watching war documentaries, doesn't come close to enabling me to teach soldiers how to solider :-) Keep safe and well mate.

  • @granddaddy_funk
    @granddaddy_funk 2 роки тому

    Love James tony. I thought you were going to go the other way with this video. Tyson even explains how he closes the distance with the jab. Definitely uses a more bladed stance to get in like you said. Further more he would still technically be closer to his opponent with one foot than the other because of the extreme angles he cut. I look at him as a switch hitter/ peekaboo . Nice video

  • @So1asola
    @So1asola 3 роки тому +2

    😂😂. The sarcasm is killing me

    • @So1asola
      @So1asola 3 роки тому

      Also fran, who have you got in AJ v fury

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому

      😂

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +2

      Few years ago I'd have said AJ. Now, I think Fury has developed such a good boxing brain and flexible style that he edges it.

    • @So1asola
      @So1asola 3 роки тому

      @@myboxingcoach I agree. I think fury just edges it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if AJ pulled it out the bag. 60/40 in fury’s favour for me

    • @betwixtX
      @betwixtX 3 роки тому

      @@myboxingcoach Peek-a-boo style boxer would beat fury since the style was greated to knock out tall opponents

  • @winstondavis378
    @winstondavis378 3 роки тому

    Well said

  • @PREDATOR_REAL
    @PREDATOR_REAL Рік тому

    Is peekaboo good in street fighting?

  • @Matteo-ks6fn
    @Matteo-ks6fn 3 роки тому

    Go figure how ignorant i am, for i liked legs movement so much i figured this style would work even for the tall short round i am.
    Thought not being a target was good for not being hit by too many salvos even by a shortened guy...

  • @coolboy_studio
    @coolboy_studio Рік тому

    Does Peek-A-Book harm back spine?

  • @nzl152
    @nzl152 Рік тому

    Peekaboo style to me in my opinion is best because I like the close 1 on 1 contact like if you were to have a fight in jail in a little room them tyson combos will rip your opponent apart

  • @hijodecally
    @hijodecally 2 роки тому

    Is peek a boo good for tall people?

  • @samueluaperaamo4639
    @samueluaperaamo4639 3 роки тому

    So true

  • @darnellwalker3499
    @darnellwalker3499 3 роки тому

    You make great videos, very informative and you know what you’re talking about. Critics talk because they have the time to 🤷🏽‍♂️ keep up the great work 👍🏽

  • @jessenorgrove1702
    @jessenorgrove1702 2 роки тому

    Peekaboo style can be used by short and tall, you have to adjust to what your height is.Thats what people aren’t looking at.If your above Mike Tyson’s height your peekaboo style will be different.

  • @CoelhoSports
    @CoelhoSports 3 роки тому

    mike tyson was very unique in that he was neither lefty nor righty. some boxers can fight well from both sides but tyson was 100% ambidextrous. if you ask him if he's righty or lefty he probably wouldn't know what the question means. larry holmes said the most dangerous punches are the ones you can't see coming, and when tyson was in range, from one punch to the next he shifted from righty to lefty and most opponents had no idea where the next punch was coming from. early on when tyson was moving his head (kevin rooney worked on that a lot) and throwing hard fast combos by the numbers he was able to make his opponents miss and make them pay. this wasn't from fighting "square". it was from shifting quickly between righty and lefty in the same combo or haymakers. you can't really teach that. kevin rooney was able to teach him to use what he had, make his taller opponents get within range and reach down, and throw hard fast bombs from both sides, but it was working off what god gave mike. too bad he couldn't keep it together a little longer. he'll probably be the last under 6' heavyweight champ in history, definitely the last unified champ.

  • @danrolli3576
    @danrolli3576 Рік тому

    Do you one on the cross defense. Philly shell people don’t remember Georgie Benton

  • @mataafa1
    @mataafa1 Місяць тому

    Peek a boo style has its advantages and disadvantages like every style … and every style isn’t suited to EVERY BODY ….. I remember watching some sparring in Brooklyn and the coach was shouting pointers from outside the ring and he said to his guy “what r u doing why u trying to be Roy jones ? Be u there is only 1 Roy jones and 1 you so be you .. your unique on your own”

  • @juliorubio4516
    @juliorubio4516 3 роки тому

    I once commented for you to do a peek a boo video....really appreciate this more....thumbs up little devil emoji

    • @myboxingcoach
      @myboxingcoach  3 роки тому +1

      You've genuinely just made me laugh Julio, and that's something I appreciate...especially with everything's that going on! Thanks pal👍

  • @themartialartist1929
    @themartialartist1929 3 роки тому +1

    I love Fran Sands