the only censorship was how Sgt. Johnson made it out alive in Halo Combat Evolved He doesnt want people knowing he and the elite he was hugging built a spaceship together powered by friendship and manliness then as a thank you, the elite shared a secret bigger than the rings themselves, he taught him what the ladies like
The bigger censorship (like in the whole UNSC because that knowledge would cause a panic and prob call for Sgt. Johnson's immediate termination.) is how he should have been infected with the flood virus a very long time ago. Long scientific Dr. Halsey explaniation short, it requires a working CNS to override, but Johnson's is not exactly in the best condition, like at all. Infact it's so bad he is lucky to be still a marine and actually has beeen infected with the virus but it can NEVER take hold or become rampant because of the wear and tear of being a Marine in the UNSC for as long as he has. He's lucky that it also cannot infect other people because it needs to grow using a CNS to become infectious. By taking memory and feeding on intelligence because the flood now, are actually the very primordial The Forerunners killed on Zeta Halo. Hell The Master Chief himself, came very close to being infected too, (The books really do help and I just wished the TV series would appreciate that kind of thing, and even just for a second dipped their noses into it. But they don't give two shits so they deserve nothing.) Lol you kids and your light hearted ignorance.
A reply to the initial email that government official sent, the subject of which being “Tards?” Yeah I’d imagine that’s what the government official would expect
MCC has every single emblem from every game from Halo 2 to Halo 4, with the exception of the Seventh Column and Marathon emblems for copywrite reasons. Curiously, the Tycho emblem from H3 ODST is in MCC, despite it being affiliated with Marathon
The "YOU LOOT I SHOOT" graffiti being removed is a shame. In Halo 3 ODST, there is chaos during the invasion. In this chaos, humanity turns against itself and the darkest sides of people emerge. Sadie's story in the audio logs conveys this in multiple chapters, and so does the corrupt NMPD officer in the campaign. However, most casual players won't get all of the audio logs and won't see the corrupt cop sequence. This little piece of graffiti quickly conveys the chaotic conflict among humans indirectly with a simple phrase.
Is it a shame though? Its literally one piece of graffiti that the vast majority of people wont pay any attention too and was replaced with other graffiti that serves the same purpose. There is no meaning or narrative or anything lossed because it was removed.
I understand wanting to protect your brand but I will ALWAYS be against any form of censorship, especially of things that have already been said/done (you loot I shoot, swat being renamed and the removal of suicide for example).
This isn't really "censorship" though, censorship is when an outside entity FORCES you to make changes(I.E. the FCC), a game developer deciding to make changes themselves is NOT remotely censorship and honestly the titling of this video feels a wee bit clickbaity but I understand it's necessary to play that game to get the algorithm to promote videos.
@@jadedheartsz That's not the definition of censorship though. If someone decides to censor themselves willingly, that's still censorship. Self-censorship, specifically. It doesn't need to be forced.
That’s when I realized halo infinite would be garbage I was 100% right it was a red flag also not being rated M for mature same with halo 5 teen rating like that would make more people play. People left so fast
Yea I knew halo Infinite my not be the best because if they will remove small things because of controversy I knew they will change things and I was right. Like no specific genders is halo Infinite, or all the history months and June is 2 months away we all know what's going to happen.
@@The_Patriotic_Berserker yep, this is why I stopped playing AAA games and play smaller games like generation zero because bigger company's are bringing the reality's that we get away from with games into our games like BLM, LGBTQ, Ukraine BS, Political stuff, and etc. We don't need this stuff in the games we play to escape that reality and not focus on those topics but they're pushing it on us and kids
@Hazy 83 its sad people can't even say the truth today. I can't go anywhere with out someone telling me lies even tho I know the truth behind them, its like they're scared to stand up for themselves
@Hazy 83 I’m inclined to say that’s the point to why reality is being shoved into fiction. It’s beneficial for those at the top, both politically and financially, to divide people at the bottom because while we’re at each other’s throats they can rob us blind and we won’t even fucking notice.
Let's not forget that 343 cut the final cutscene of Halo Reach before the message from bungie pops up. I can kinda see why, but it's kinda sad. Personally I think 95% of the times games should be left as is to be a time capsule of sorts
@@shoeboi4596 no they kept that one but in the final final cutscene where keys asks cortana if "we lost them" as it shows the POA approaching the ring like in the first halo message from bungie to the fans pops up, but 343 cut the cutscene right before the message could be displayed
Uh, of course they’ll remove the message, you can’t have a whole other company quote in another company’s product. That’s grounds for a lawsuit. Even though Halo used to belong to Bungie, it now belongs to 343 and Bungie doesn’t have any rights to Halo, so they had to cut the message.
I have MAJOR respect for the developers of “Ready or Not.” The game is a realistic tactical swat shooter. The devs went to a big publisher who denied publishing the game because it’s “too realistic.” And instead of bending the knee and censoring their art, the devs fucked off and went solo… and it worked. I’ll never understand why publishers crack down on censoring art. Video games are a form of art. And if you limit the artists vision you get a worse product.
Yeah, no one would ever make a police SWAT game. Not like, say, SWAT4. Which Ready Or Not rips most if not all it’s inspiration from, right down to the “Bring Order To Chaos.”
17:45 This one was annoying, tbh. We weren't allowed to use the dead body objects in H5 Forge maps in matchmaking because of this. Not a big deal, but it definitely killed the atmosphere for some Infection maps.
Tell me about it. I had made a Blackout remake/redesign that took place in the snow. On one of the buildings I had a jackel, grunt, and elite building a snowman. BOOM! No longer allowed to be used in China
Games should be confined to their world. If something makes sense in a game world but in real life it would be considered offensive, then it should still be in for the sake of the game world being detached from our own. If something is put in a game with no ill will then it should not be changed regardless of how the times change
Nah fuck that. Games don't exist in a different world. They exist in our wolrs and have a tangible effect on our world. And how would you determine "no I'll will" ? As if you don't have concrete rules for that, then bad actors will exploit it to push their bullshit
Agreed but try to explain that to the crazies in charge of almost every piece of art out there nowadays, everything is political and should reflect todays world in some way (boring, inclusive and shitty)
"I NEED TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT A PIECE OF GRAFFITI WITH MY OWN EYES. THIS GRAFFITI.... IT MIGHT HAVE MADE A LIBERAL MAD ONCE... IT'S BEAUTIFUL" thats how yall sound
@@RatPunkGirlI think it's less about that specific piece of graffiti and more about the fact that they made changes to 10+ year old games just to keep some people from getting mad. It's one thing to change a small piece of graffiti that most people only looked at for a second or so, but I'm worried that someone down the line might try and change something much larger than a simple texture on a wall when the whole idea of the MCC was to preserve the games as they were for the future
It could just be me but personally I kinda feel like they went a bit far in some places I mean, they completely changed a piece of graffiti that most people probably won’t even take to much notice for AND makes sense considering what happened in that local it takes place it. Besides looting and shooting is a very common term in gaming to the point “looter shooters” are their own genera. Nobody is removing scenes from heavily racist, sexist and homophobic movies made many years ago so I’m really not sure why something as simple as a banner and graffiti needed to get axed. After all, is anyone seriously going to get offended by a PNG of police sirens over everything else you see in media? That’s my opinion on the matter
The climate is so crazy that even Disney is being pretty stupid by banning movies such as Peter Pan trying to say they're evil or something...no people are just making up reasons to be offended by beloved stories/characters.
@@KalebSDay I really hope this calms down one day, since the pandemic and BLM movement I feel like all American entertainment has to play it extremely safe and inoffensive. Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart is the main game I've noticed for suffering from this. All of Ratchet's edginess is gone and he's just a complete goody-two-shoes. It honestly really upset me but I wasn't surprised Insomniac went that direction. Makes it extra confusing they're the ones making a Wolverine game. He isn't exactly the type of character that really fits their family-friendly vibe.
To me it's really just the fact that those movies aren't being remastered and re-sold for full price like Halo was. Even in cases where those movies are being put on streaming services, the creators will tend to have a pretty big warning at the beginning of it. And, Halo could have done that, but they didn't. For all intents and purposes, MCC was treated like a totally new set of games, and it should be held to the standards of any modern game released.
Probably to prevent people using terms like 420 or 69, yet I frequently see those in name tags anyway. But censoring all numbers is insane, since it prevents you from being able to relay useful information.
Just want to point out that “you loot, I shoot” is not racially charged. It’s not about a certain people at all, it’s only about protecting one’s property and self from those that mean it harm.
Unironically. The people that claim to be most against 'racism' happen to be the people who see "You loot, I shoot" and think that it's about black people. Really makes you think.
@@travelingt9997 If someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night, they value your TV greater than they value their life, actually. It's not hard. Censorship is always bad.
I always prefer a game keeps it as it was. I think that changing things for modern viewing only produces a further tunnel vision similar to how Twitter recommends people to you just agree and gives you the option to just block those you don't. I get when you make a game you shouldn't antagonize your audience, but the game already existed in that state for remasters. There are people out there who actively look for things that will bother them. I'm not sure we should really hold everyone to their extreme standards.
Another term during matches that was changed for Infinite was Assassination being replaced with Back Smack. I don’t know if this actually happened earlier in 343's days as I didn't play 4's multiplayer or 5 at all
@@ShyNomad wasn’t it also similar in Reach? iirc when it started in 3, melee kills are called Beatdowns (with the fist medal) and back melees are Assassinations (with the ninja medal) not sure how it went with Reach but I think it’s fairly similar with how it goes with 4 and 5 too
Halo, a game where: You can see people transformed into hideous monsters after snapping their own necks, enemies say things like "spoon me" or "food nipple," and assassinations sometimes involve sticking a knife into someone's crotch "Suicide" is censored
Love it when companies have inside-jokey acronyms and euphemisms for stuff. I work at a TV station and we call the big screen behind the anchors the “BAM”, which means “Big Ass Monitor” and it makes me laugh every time I bring it up.
We should not erase history and pretend it didn't happen, it was the past, we need to understand that, we need to understand that we can grow and change over time, especially fucking 20 years later like come on, we dont need to change halo 1 just cause more than 20 years later something happened in real life
Catering to peoples offenses only Infantilize's them. Which is exactly what the people behind the censorship want. Its easier to control a bunch of fully grown infants
TARDS is still funny. It will be removed as soon as someone gets it to them. I hate when people go on about people being soft but for fucks sake they are making it easy to think.
This inspires me to create an awesome IP, let Microsoft absorb it, then let them slowly realize that the whole time it was self referencing and incredibly impoliticly correct.
When I talked on the old forums I actually self-censored to -blam!- with the exact same stylization cause I thought it was funny. Classic Bungie lore in general was really amusing
The only reason 10:08 is 'controversial' is because certain sacred cow protected groups don't like it. (which speaks volumes about them tbh) If virtual graffiti in a decade old game were suddenly offensive in the other direction, censorship would be laughed at, and rightly so.
I love the changes to ODST, really enhanced the experience 100 fold. Completely necessary and totally not catering to idiots. On a more serious note, these games are very important to a lot of people. It feels shitty that 343 felt they had to change stuff for the sake of being, "politically correct," in the eyes of a very loud minority of people. And no, before I get flamed by that loud minority, I'm not using "minority" as a discriminatory term. It's being used in the context of the amount of people who want stuff removed from video games just because it hurts their feelings.
@@jadedheartsz oh give me a break, this is such a BS statement. Most people don't give a damn if the character is well thought out and well written. For example, Sgt. Johnson is one of the best and most iconic characters in the Halo franchise because in addition to being a total badass, he was a well written and likeable character. He wasn't the "black guy" soldier, he was a badass soldier who happened to be black. If he was re-written as anything else, people would be PISSED. The issue most have isn't those kind of characters, but rather the shoehorning in of these type of characters for the only purpose being to virtue signal to the PC mob (which no matter how much you try, nothing you do will ever be "enough"). You talk about "alt-right trolls," yet people do the same thing if their imaginary "diversity quotas" aren't met. It's like there is a checklist: female character that unrealistically badass? Check. Minority characters who are so for no other reason than to say they're a minority character? Check. Same thing with gay/lesbian/etc characters - there for no other reason to check a box? Check. Again, I reiterate: most people couldn't care less if a character is a minority/woman/gay/etc as long as the character is well written and not just there to check a box.
@@bendutton17 Thank you. I feel like people such as our good friend here Jackson really don't get what the problem is. It almost feels like nowadays American companies are doing it to satisfy a quota. And because of that it makes it look very disingenuous ironically enough. But of course, we have people such as Jackson here that think we're bigot alt-rights just for saying shit like this. It isn't justified if it was just to make people happy on the internet. Man, America is so fucked. I think both sides are as bad as each-other to be honest. I'm not American myself, but I know I'm somewhere in the middle.
@@foodwich2132 I know what you mean, man. I live in the US and it seems like the entitlement here is worse than anywhere else. Both sides of the political spectrum are pretty bad, the only difference is one is actively trying to destroy this country out in the open while the other is doing it behind the scenes.
Ah yes... in the game franchise where humans are being massacred simply for being human, a police siren emblem (in a game where you fight alongside police) and deterring thieves from stealing your stuff during said massacre are the problem.
honestly, looking back at everything, it is still surprising that halo was never censored in germany back in the day, considering that country's history of censoring shooters, especially in the same generation as halo combat evolved.
Why do they need to censor such small things like "you shoot I loot" or just a nameplate with sirens, in a game where the covenant glass Africa I don't think red and blue sirens are problematic 😂
Funny thing about the word "Retard" that it used to be the politically correct term for the special needs. It only be game a slur when people began to use it as an insult.
343's censorship of ODST is absolutely pathetic and spineless. Games should be preserved as intended, not butchered to cave to the perpetually angry Twitter outrage mob. Censorship is trash and any company that does it should be called out for it.
It isn't just 343 that done this, loads of American companies had this unrest and honestly, with how Microsoft acts I get the feeling it was likely a decision by the higher ups there since Microsoft especially are quite vocal of this shit. American entertainment in general is in a really weird place since the unrest of 2020, I hope one day it does shift back to a better balance. But American entertainment nowadays almost seems more pandering to appeal to everyone now if that makes sense.
man these videos need more attention idk how you pull this stuff outta the halo franchise but as someone who has been addicted to halo for the past 16 years, i just wanna say thank you guys and keey making these vods!
Personally, I think *all* games should be kept in their preserved states if they're old and get remastered or brought into the current generation. Because it's one thing if something was made in 2001 that is now considered offensive or ignorant here in 2022, versus something being made offensive in 2021 that is still offensive in 2022. There are just so many different ways people can or can not get offended and we can't cater to everyone, but if it's decades old, leave it alone. Because at that point in time, it wasn't considered offensive, so it's obviously not targeting you or any singular person in particular.
A lot of the cencorship issues from MCC and Infinite can be attributed to something called the "Scunthorp" problem in which a part of a word is flagged and the entire thing gets censored as a result. Another factor is that the algorithms used for many chat filters are a combination of general ones and are not manually set by developers, but rather reused or taken from other things entirely.
This is just the reason why i will keep all the old xbox halo games. Things get changed or removed. I have the mcc from steam but it's still nice having the original halo games that i used to play as a kid because when im playing the games i can easily see or feel the changes between old and mcc version
A big thing I think you forgot to mention is how they changed male and female designations in MCC to heavy armor and light armor or something like that.
Moreover, in classic Halo Reach, a male/female body was tied to a male/female voice, but in MCC they separated them so that you can have a female voice on a male body, etc.
@@jadedheartsz yes it is. They are being forced to because they will be ganged up on by Twitter. You do know threatening someone into doing something is still forcing them right?
@@halogod0298 no it's not being "forced" upon by anyone liar, Twitter won't "gang up" on them over that fool, nobody "forced" 343 to do anything, they did it on their own. Also there's plenty of nazis raging on twitter genius.
@@jadedheartsz They did it in fear of getting ganged up on by the Twitter mob. If you can’t understand that that you are lost. Based on your other comments I can tell you’re not that bright. Twitter has too much power over companies and their intellectual property these days. Denying that is foolish.
I have been watching your channel for a few years, I am amazed you continue to produce videos that are original. The ideas you come up with seem endless and varied. Really well done guys, just had epiphany on that and felt it’s worth mentioning.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the extra intro/ending cutscenes that 343 tacked on to Halo 2 Anniversary as a tie in to Halo 5. They are still available to watch, but aren't a part of a regular playthrough of H2A now because they just outright don't make sense based on H5's plot lol.
a constitutional democratic republic. very different from both a republic and a democracy. a very solid and intelligently designed governmental system, though not perfect as the current blatant corruption has been allowed to grow beneath the surface. our country needs some work.
Republic is a type of state, democracy is more about how it's governed. China is a republic, Saudi Arabia a monarchy, both countries are dictatorships. USA is a republic, UK is a monarchy, both are democracies.
Wow… people offended by a nameplate… a really cool nameplate by the way. And Halo bent over just like that and took it off? That’s so frustrating to me…
Sometimes I wish companies will say “we don’t intend to insult so take it how we mean it. If you think it insults you, get over it”. Then focus on actual important aspects of a game.
I knew about the removing sirens nameplate thing. Still think its just as stupid now as I did then. Apparently anything law enforcement is offensive to people nowadays😒
It's why stories and entertainment have gotten so poor. Indie games are so appraised because of the creative freedom afforded them. If all they did was worry about not offending somebody Bungie would have never created Halo.
I currently have a problem with a certain voice line being removed from halo 2. The ONLY reason it would’ve been removed is because “oFfEnSiVe” when it wasn’t. Plus it’s becoming political but anywayyyyy
So.... none of these edits are for the passion of art. You have the removal of gore just to get a teen rating to make more sales even though Halo is popular enough to survive with a mature rating. And you also have the removal of "triggers" that may cause people to feel offended yet it is a video game about shooting aliens. Someone in the comments mentioned the "loot you shoot" would be the result of humanity turning on each other because THAT IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. ugh. very good video but reality is aggravating. I haven't played video games in 10 years and I come back to see that this is what video games have become. Games were built different.
It’s insane how since halo 5, halo has been brought down for younger audiences and then the show comes out and the first scene where someone shoots we see a young teen get her head and upper body obliterated by a plasma rifle. My friend and I were watching it together and our jaws dropped at that. I got immediate whiplash
@@joshuapurdy7065 wasn’t there also a time in one of the older books that the Plasma Pistol Bolt was described to have burnt and melted right through a Marine’s flesh and bone? That plasma rifle bit reminded me of that
@@ryon5174 yeah plasma weapons in the book are very powerful and are more realistic to what they would be, of course we don’t see it at that degree in the games o my because it’s curated towards gameplay
I think its wrong to do this. The world changes, but the game as it was released doesn't. Keep your physical copies handy! Also I miss the large amounts of blood in Halos Bungie days. It gave you the sense that things were serious and not "Disneyfied" like Disney has done with Star Wars.
I really hate censorship in videogames. Its mostly happening so that the demographic can please all the snowflakes out there and to try and get into the Chinese market. I know I sound like some political ass, but it is the truth. Censorship just ruins games for many people including myself. You cant tell the best story or have the best gameplay if its all cushioned for kids. There's so many limitations that it strangles the life out of a lot of stuff. What ever happened to actually being M for mature or T for teen? Censorship goes beyond videogames, I know. A lot of my favorite shows and movies have been effected HEAVILY as well. I guess what I'm trying to say is that politics and and loud snowflakes shouldn't dominate expressive creativity no matter what it is.
I believe art should never be changed after it's released. Things were different in the past, they'll be different in the future. Deleting or removing the context retroactively will only make us more ignorant
Destiny posters removed but they were only trying to distance themselves during that time... Be realistic. 343i have never wanted to be associated with Bungie this is why the series continues to move further and further away from it's roots as a Guns Up Arena Shooter. 343i have never developed a true guns up arena shooter Halo title. The Halo games 343i develop are some other form of Sci Fi shooter set in the Halo Universe. This is why we keep wanting more Halo games. Bonnie Ross at E3 said " we want to make Halo something we can call our own" which meant moving in a "new direction" to further distance themselves from the Bungie product so players would associate Halo with 343i and not Bungie this has always been the case since the acquisition of the IP.
This is also why the Halo Tv Series showrunners were not permitted to play the first 3 games. 343i direct them to only their works avoiding association with Bungie's works.
@@atch4764 They were permitted to read written works provided by 343i. This did not include Fall of Reach which is the most important novel in the series. If you've read it you know this is the novel where the Chief is kidnapped by Halsey and made into the Master Chief. As far as I understand they were not permitted to play any of the games. I believe this is due to the fact that regardless of 343i's wishes all of their titles still hold at least some associations to the Universe that Bungie created even if very little. Whereas the written works from Ghosts of Onyx forward have much less to do with the Universe Bungie created and much more to do with the lore 343i created from Halo 4 and on.
@@enflam3 Please cite where you heard this horseshit because I find this extremely hard to believe. 343 have constantly pushed the original Halo trilogy especially when the PC MCC updates came out. The showrunners didn't play the games because they're fucking idiots. They thought the books were enough, they even sounded snobby thinking video games are dumb.
They sure do want to distance themselves from Bungie... but i don't think they want to distance themselves that bad. The OG trilogy is still the most important part of the franchise, Infinite itself took a lot of inspiration from those titles (whether they succeeded, or not, or if it led to a better game is another thing). I really don't know where you are getting the TV guys were instructed to not play the first 3 (honestly if they really cared they would have done so even if 343 told them not to)- or read some of the originals books like the Fall of Reach, hell, the whole decision of having Chief's memories suppressed probably came into being because they read Fall of Reach and went with 'what if Halsey never told them the truth' (absolutely moronic decision, but i can see where it originated most likely).
Hearing and seeing the destiny refences took me back to when it was being teased. I really couldn't wait for it and was so disappointed with the results however, I did enjoy the nostalga that the "destiny awaits" poster gave me even if destiny was a meh game.
There's also the cut civilian execution animations in Halo Reach where the elites would have brutally snapped the neck of civilians and marines. Generalkidd made a video about it if you wanna see them.
This was a Blam! amazing video. Just started playing halo recently and got curious on it's entire history. Especially how it started in it's early days.
Censorship is terrible no matter what it is or for whatever reason. If it's acceptable to be in a rated M game it shouldn't ever be removed or changed.
I think videos on UA-cam are now n Even demonetized for using this word. That's ridiculous. Using the term suicide doesn't automatically glorify it or anything like that. But hey, a while ago I realized that American cartoons for kids can't use the term "hell", like it was a super bad word. It's bizarre how some words are considered a taboo.
@@darealshinji yep. A bass player I'm subscribed to did a cover of suicide and redemption by metallica and the video got demonetized. So he re-uploaded it as s-word and redemption.
I'm surprised you missed the obvious one, THE CREDITS! I missed the slow fades to black as the credits roll from each campaign. I missed seeing the thank you messages from the devs that worked on the project. Of course you get the 343 thank you message at the very end of halo 4 and you can see all credits in an external thing that you can click on, but that's not the same.
Censoring video games for things like "you loot, I shoot" or the police siren nameplate is complete nonsense. It is overtly obvious that the developers are not making political statements. Video games like Halo are isolated within their own universe. It is unjust and rather idiotic to apply the laws and reason of our current political/ social system to a made up video game universe. The whole point of playing video games is largely to escape from reality. It is sad to see that some fringe and extremist people in the gaming community see things like the quote or police sirens and call upon mobs of people who have no gaming experience to cancel them.
I’m just upset that a lot of games with profanity filters won’t let me use the words assistant & circumference. It’s not my fault they are spelled that way, and the context in which I want to use them isn’t anything bad.
i disagree with most forms of censorship. the only thing i can think of it being okay, is if it changes something that is factually incorrect, that is supposed to be correct.
This is why I appreciate games like GTA, and the south park games. They make fun of these kinds of censorship and how soft and sensitive people have become. Not that being sensitive is bad but when some can't take a small joke and whine about it, gets old.
I remember my Halo 2 manual from the collector edition and ones form requal copies. They all said "Arbiter" so I was not one of the supposed lucky few.
This is honestly a shame to me. For this reason and out of apparently justified paranoia, I have kept physical copies of every single entry of the Halo and Gran Turismo franchises for their respective systems. Still seeking a method to properly preserve X360 media within my means, PS legacy preservation is a breeze..
I'm definitely still firmly in camp preservation across the board, but one argument that could be made about historical art preservation vs modern releases is that re-releases are by nature, NOT the original release. So for instance, take the three examples from Halo 3 ODST: - MCC's Sirens Nameplate was not a part of original content, and was part of an upcoming live environment. Completely understandable for the devs wanting to change it to not send mixed messaging. - Marty's removal from ODST is very harsh, and imo is overstepping, but it is understandable from legal concerns. Imo, this one should be reversed, though I understand why it probably won't be. - The graffiti in New Mombasa is more of a gray area. Definitely a case for preservation, but also understandable for a re-release of the work given the time. Easy to argue to preserve the original, but also one could argue that it isn't necessary, since the original release still plays the original text, and THIS release is now a time-capsule of MCC's release.
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How was this made 11 ours ago when the vid was made around 1 hour ago?
@@haileyhatt3829 most likely uploaded but on a scheduled release time so it was private beforehand
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@@DURANDAL1007 same 💀
the only censorship was how Sgt. Johnson made it out alive in Halo Combat Evolved
He doesnt want people knowing he and the elite he was hugging built a spaceship together powered by friendship and manliness then as a thank you, the elite shared a secret bigger than the rings themselves, he taught him what the ladies like
Armor plating and superior firepower?
Grinding treads? The smell of green?
This comment caught me off guard and brought a smile to my face. Pretty funny.
He lit his Cigar with the fucking Halo ring and him and his boi went and hit the galaxy together. I want this spin-off now that I said it lol
The bigger censorship (like in the whole UNSC because that knowledge would cause a panic and prob call for Sgt. Johnson's immediate termination.) is how he should have been infected with the flood virus a very long time ago. Long scientific Dr. Halsey explaniation short, it requires a working CNS to override, but Johnson's is not exactly in the best condition, like at all. Infact it's so bad he is lucky to be still a marine and actually has beeen infected with the virus but it can NEVER take hold or become rampant because of the wear and tear of being a Marine in the UNSC for as long as he has. He's lucky that it also cannot infect other people because it needs to grow using a CNS to become infectious. By taking memory and feeding on intelligence because the flood now, are actually the very primordial The Forerunners killed on Zeta Halo. Hell The Master Chief himself, came very close to being infected too, (The books really do help and I just wished the TV series would appreciate that kind of thing, and even just for a second dipped their noses into it. But they don't give two shits so they deserve nothing.) Lol you kids and your light hearted ignorance.
Imagine being a government official in the Halo universe, and getting an email with the subject line "RE: TARDS"
A reply to the initial email that government official sent, the subject of which being “Tards?” Yeah I’d imagine that’s what the government official would expect
God fucking dammit I laughed at this nearly two minutes what is wrong with me
@@foodwich2132 nothing is wrong with you, you have a good sense of humor unlike most of Twitter
@@bradyrice6631 if you get CC'd in a reply, then the reply is the first thing you see... not the original
Resident evil: TARDS
MCC has every single emblem from every game from Halo 2 to Halo 4, with the exception of the Seventh Column and Marathon emblems for copywrite reasons. Curiously, the Tycho emblem from H3 ODST is in MCC, despite it being affiliated with Marathon
I'm still kinda mad they shrunk all the emblem backgrounds. Ruined alot of the ones I used to run with.
Is the grenade there? And horizontal gradient?
it doesn't have the h2 gradients iirc
The "YOU LOOT I SHOOT" graffiti being removed is a shame. In Halo 3 ODST, there is chaos during the invasion. In this chaos, humanity turns against itself and the darkest sides of people emerge. Sadie's story in the audio logs conveys this in multiple chapters, and so does the corrupt NMPD officer in the campaign. However, most casual players won't get all of the audio logs and won't see the corrupt cop sequence. This little piece of graffiti quickly conveys the chaotic conflict among humans indirectly with a simple phrase.
Still i don't blame 343 for not wanting to deal with potential fallout.
Is it a shame though? Its literally one piece of graffiti that the vast majority of people wont pay any attention too and was replaced with other graffiti that serves the same purpose. There is no meaning or narrative or anything lossed because it was removed.
@@AustinH7 they were too peaceful imo, bring the black panther party back
@@gaysatan5040 based gay satan
@@AustinH7 🤨
I remember Halo used to be the Wild West with game chat - miss those days…
oh yeah the days of racial and homophobic slurs being flung about all the time was GREAT! NOT!
@@jadedheartsz soft as puppy sh*t, Jackson
@@jadedheartsz Wahh
@@yabda3738 yeah it's hilarious that trolls can be nostalgic for those days.
@@jadedheartsz sounds like you need a safe space.
reminder that censorship has literally never improved the life of a single person
I understand wanting to protect your brand but I will ALWAYS be against any form of censorship, especially of things that have already been said/done (you loot I shoot, swat being renamed and the removal of suicide for example).
I agree. I deleted infinite long ago. Fuck censorship
12:55 was he gaslighting to 343?
This isn't really "censorship" though, censorship is when an outside entity FORCES you to make changes(I.E. the FCC), a game developer deciding to make changes themselves is NOT remotely censorship and honestly the titling of this video feels a wee bit clickbaity but I understand it's necessary to play that game to get the algorithm to promote videos.
@@ImDirtyDan73 Why did you delete Infinite troll?
@@jadedheartsz That's not the definition of censorship though. If someone decides to censor themselves willingly, that's still censorship. Self-censorship, specifically. It doesn't need to be forced.
It sucks the police siren was removed as a nameplate, it may not be a super cool nameplate but the police cars are really important to ODST
That’s when I realized halo infinite would be garbage I was 100% right it was a red flag also not being rated M for mature same with halo 5 teen rating like that would make more people play. People left so fast
Yea I knew halo Infinite my not be the best because if they will remove small things because of controversy I knew they will change things and I was right. Like no specific genders is halo Infinite, or all the history months and June is 2 months away we all know what's going to happen.
@@The_Patriotic_Berserker yep, this is why I stopped playing AAA games and play smaller games like generation zero because bigger company's are bringing the reality's that we get away from with games into our games like BLM, LGBTQ, Ukraine BS, Political stuff, and etc. We don't need this stuff in the games we play to escape that reality and not focus on those topics but they're pushing it on us and kids
@Hazy 83 its sad people can't even say the truth today. I can't go anywhere with out someone telling me lies even tho I know the truth behind them, its like they're scared to stand up for themselves
@Hazy 83 I’m inclined to say that’s the point to why reality is being shoved into fiction. It’s beneficial for those at the top, both politically and financially, to divide people at the bottom because while we’re at each other’s throats they can rob us blind and we won’t even fucking notice.
Let's not forget that 343 cut the final cutscene of Halo Reach before the message from bungie pops up. I can kinda see why, but it's kinda sad. Personally I think 95% of the times games should be left as is to be a time capsule of sorts
The one where noble 6 gets hecken stabbed?
@@shoeboi4596 no they kept that one but in the final final cutscene where keys asks cortana if "we lost them" as it shows the POA approaching the ring like in the first halo message from bungie to the fans pops up, but 343 cut the cutscene right before the message could be displayed
Uh, of course they’ll remove the message, you can’t have a whole other company quote in another company’s product. That’s grounds for a lawsuit. Even though Halo used to belong to Bungie, it now belongs to 343 and Bungie doesn’t have any rights to Halo, so they had to cut the message.
I have MAJOR respect for the developers of “Ready or Not.” The game is a realistic tactical swat shooter. The devs went to a big publisher who denied publishing the game because it’s “too realistic.” And instead of bending the knee and censoring their art, the devs fucked off and went solo… and it worked.
I’ll never understand why publishers crack down on censoring art. Video games are a form of art. And if you limit the artists vision you get a worse product.
Money, it's always about money
Any game that makes sites like Kotaku cry is probably one worth looking at
Yeah, no one would ever make a police SWAT game.
Not like, say, SWAT4. Which Ready Or Not rips most if not all it’s inspiration from, right down to the “Bring Order To Chaos.”
@@thegreatgoatking.kingofall4001 woah, a SWAT game rips most of it's inspiration from... a SWAT game? who woulda guessed?
17:45 This one was annoying, tbh. We weren't allowed to use the dead body objects in H5 Forge maps in matchmaking because of this. Not a big deal, but it definitely killed the atmosphere for some Infection maps.
Tell me about it.
I had made a Blackout remake/redesign that took place in the snow.
On one of the buildings I had a jackel, grunt, and elite building a snowman.
BOOM! No longer allowed to be used in China
Games should be confined to their world. If something makes sense in a game world but in real life it would be considered offensive, then it should still be in for the sake of the game world being detached from our own. If something is put in a game with no ill will then it should not be changed regardless of how the times change
Nah fuck that. Games don't exist in a different world. They exist in our wolrs and have a tangible effect on our world.
And how would you determine "no I'll will" ? As if you don't have concrete rules for that, then bad actors will exploit it to push their bullshit
Agreed
Agreed but try to explain that to the crazies in charge of almost every piece of art out there nowadays, everything is political and should reflect todays world in some way (boring, inclusive and shitty)
Many people have forgotten that not everything is made for them
Also having a police siren shouldn't be a political statement. If anything it should be offensive to remove it.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the BIGGEST reminder to keep original copies close to you, because pretty soon they aren’t gonna be the same anymore
thank the reddit and twitter incels for ruining it.
god forbid, I can't play ODST anymore because one piece of graffiti was changed!!!
"I NEED TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT A PIECE OF GRAFFITI WITH MY OWN EYES. THIS GRAFFITI.... IT MIGHT HAVE MADE A LIBERAL MAD ONCE... IT'S BEAUTIFUL"
thats how yall sound
@@RatPunkGirl Sounds reasonable, to be honest. lol
@@RatPunkGirlI think it's less about that specific piece of graffiti and more about the fact that they made changes to 10+ year old games just to keep some people from getting mad. It's one thing to change a small piece of graffiti that most people only looked at for a second or so, but I'm worried that someone down the line might try and change something much larger than a simple texture on a wall when the whole idea of the MCC was to preserve the games as they were for the future
Luke: _They're ruining our headcanon!_
Miranda Keyes, literally the child of J. Keyes and C. Halsey: _Am I a joke to you?_
Its not headcanon if its official canon!
Even the Halo TV show got this right 😄
It could just be me but personally I kinda feel like they went a bit far in some places
I mean, they completely changed a piece of graffiti that most people probably won’t even take to much notice for AND makes sense considering what happened in that local it takes place it. Besides looting and shooting is a very common term in gaming to the point “looter shooters” are their own genera.
Nobody is removing scenes from heavily racist, sexist and homophobic movies made many years ago so I’m really not sure why something as simple as a banner and graffiti needed to get axed. After all, is anyone seriously going to get offended by a PNG of police sirens over everything else you see in media? That’s my opinion on the matter
The climate is so crazy that even Disney is being pretty stupid by banning movies such as Peter Pan trying to say they're evil or something...no people are just making up reasons to be offended by beloved stories/characters.
that's a dumb comparison though.
@@KalebSDay Disney did not "ban" Peter Pan lying troll.
@@KalebSDay I really hope this calms down one day, since the pandemic and BLM movement I feel like all American entertainment has to play it extremely safe and inoffensive. Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart is the main game I've noticed for suffering from this. All of Ratchet's edginess is gone and he's just a complete goody-two-shoes. It honestly really upset me but I wasn't surprised Insomniac went that direction. Makes it extra confusing they're the ones making a Wolverine game. He isn't exactly the type of character that really fits their family-friendly vibe.
To me it's really just the fact that those movies aren't being remastered and re-sold for full price like Halo was. Even in cases where those movies are being put on streaming services, the creators will tend to have a pretty big warning at the beginning of it. And, Halo could have done that, but they didn't.
For all intents and purposes, MCC was treated like a totally new set of games, and it should be held to the standards of any modern game released.
its crazy how numbers are censored in MCC and Infinite
Probably to prevent people using terms like 420 or 69, yet I frequently see those in name tags anyway.
But censoring all numbers is insane, since it prevents you from being able to relay useful information.
@@GTAVictor9128 like “yo two guys left”
@@shoeboi4596
It becomes much more tedious when spelling out larger numbers.
@@GTAVictor9128 yeah I like I don’t want to spell dodecahedron or something.
Just want to point out that “you loot, I shoot” is not racially charged. It’s not about a certain people at all, it’s only about protecting one’s property and self from those that mean it harm.
Unironically. The people that claim to be most against 'racism' happen to be the people who see "You loot, I shoot" and think that it's about black people.
Really makes you think.
The problem is shooting someone because they took your TV. Life is more valuable than your TV, sorry.
@@travelingt9997 If someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night, they value your TV greater than they value their life, actually. It's not hard. Censorship is always bad.
I'll give them the TV with a smile.
@@peepsbates 1933 S Main St, here to go. Doors unlocked. Although at this point it is a charitable donation
That police light name plate is awesome.
I always prefer a game keeps it as it was. I think that changing things for modern viewing only produces a further tunnel vision similar to how Twitter recommends people to you just agree and gives you the option to just block those you don't. I get when you make a game you shouldn't antagonize your audience, but the game already existed in that state for remasters. There are people out there who actively look for things that will bother them. I'm not sure we should really hold everyone to their extreme standards.
Another term during matches that was changed for Infinite was Assassination being replaced with Back Smack. I don’t know if this actually happened earlier in 343's days as I didn't play 4's multiplayer or 5 at all
Back smack is new. But in 4 and 5, if you killed someone with a melee to the back without triggering an animation it was called beatdown.
Back Smack was probably changed just because it was a popular community term
@@ShyNomad wasn’t it also similar in Reach?
iirc when it started in 3, melee kills are called Beatdowns (with the fist medal) and back melees are Assassinations (with the ninja medal)
not sure how it went with Reach but I think it’s fairly similar with how it goes with 4 and 5 too
Halo, a game where: You can see people transformed into hideous monsters after snapping their own necks, enemies say things like "spoon me" or "food nipple," and assassinations sometimes involve sticking a knife into someone's crotch
"Suicide" is censored
Love it when companies have inside-jokey acronyms and euphemisms for stuff. I work at a TV station and we call the big screen behind the anchors the “BAM”, which means “Big Ass Monitor” and it makes me laugh every time I bring it up.
We should not erase history and pretend it didn't happen, it was the past, we need to understand that, we need to understand that we can grow and change over time, especially fucking 20 years later like come on, we dont need to change halo 1 just cause more than 20 years later something happened in real life
The fact that a game rated M for mature, a game for adults, is censored is disgusting.
It's cowardice.
Catering to peoples offenses only Infantilize's them. Which is exactly what the people behind the censorship want. Its easier to control a bunch of fully grown infants
343 is based in Washington if that tells you anything lol
@@CastledCard Also there staff is full of diversity hires from what I have been told
@@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 What a surprise
Sticks and stones may break my bones but a png of words will never hurt me.
TARDS is still funny. It will be removed as soon as someone gets it to them. I hate when people go on about people being soft but for fucks sake they are making it easy to think.
Feels likes to RS is gaslighting for this to change.
@@jaypeterman9721 I does feel like that huh.
quiet troll
If you're idea of funny is "haha the acronym spells out a slur XD" Then you're not mentally developed enough to be a part of society.
it's about likely as the TARDIS getting renamed and that's a cultural icon by now
This inspires me to create an awesome IP, let Microsoft absorb it, then let them slowly realize that the whole time it was self referencing and incredibly impoliticly correct.
When I talked on the old forums I actually self-censored to -blam!- with the exact same stylization cause I thought it was funny. Classic Bungie lore in general was really amusing
The only reason 10:08 is 'controversial' is because certain sacred cow protected groups don't like it. (which speaks volumes about them tbh) If virtual graffiti in a decade old game were suddenly offensive in the other direction, censorship would be laughed at, and rightly so.
And if you think about it, isn’t it more racist that they would assume the looters are minorities lmao
I love the changes to ODST, really enhanced the experience 100 fold. Completely necessary and totally not catering to idiots.
On a more serious note, these games are very important to a lot of people. It feels shitty that 343 felt they had to change stuff for the sake of being, "politically correct," in the eyes of a very loud minority of people.
And no, before I get flamed by that loud minority, I'm not using "minority" as a discriminatory term. It's being used in the context of the amount of people who want stuff removed from video games just because it hurts their feelings.
And the world was saved and nothing bad ever happened again thanks to these changes
Wow, people are so incredibly sensitive they had a nameplate with police lights on it removed from a videogame. Nice.
Cops are good
They also replaced it with a BLM nameplate right?
@@ElectricalSwift some are but some are evil.
@@jaypeterman9721 of course they did. they don't worry at all about offending those on the other side of their political stance.
You're awfully upset over it for someone talking about sensitivity. 343 made a courteous decision, deal with it.
God we live in a world of cry baby's, what ever happen to sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me
yes alt-right trolls like you cry anytime an LGBTQ or minority person merely exists in fictional media, get a life fool
@@jadedheartsz oh give me a break, this is such a BS statement. Most people don't give a damn if the character is well thought out and well written. For example, Sgt. Johnson is one of the best and most iconic characters in the Halo franchise because in addition to being a total badass, he was a well written and likeable character. He wasn't the "black guy" soldier, he was a badass soldier who happened to be black. If he was re-written as anything else, people would be PISSED. The issue most have isn't those kind of characters, but rather the shoehorning in of these type of characters for the only purpose being to virtue signal to the PC mob (which no matter how much you try, nothing you do will ever be "enough"). You talk about "alt-right trolls," yet people do the same thing if their imaginary "diversity quotas" aren't met. It's like there is a checklist: female character that unrealistically badass? Check. Minority characters who are so for no other reason than to say they're a minority character? Check. Same thing with gay/lesbian/etc characters - there for no other reason to check a box? Check. Again, I reiterate: most people couldn't care less if a character is a minority/woman/gay/etc as long as the character is well written and not just there to check a box.
@@bendutton17 Thank you. I feel like people such as our good friend here Jackson really don't get what the problem is. It almost feels like nowadays American companies are doing it to satisfy a quota. And because of that it makes it look very disingenuous ironically enough. But of course, we have people such as Jackson here that think we're bigot alt-rights just for saying shit like this. It isn't justified if it was just to make people happy on the internet.
Man, America is so fucked. I think both sides are as bad as each-other to be honest. I'm not American myself, but I know I'm somewhere in the middle.
@@foodwich2132 I know what you mean, man. I live in the US and it seems like the entitlement here is worse than anywhere else. Both sides of the political spectrum are pretty bad, the only difference is one is actively trying to destroy this country out in the open while the other is doing it behind the scenes.
@@jadedheartsz you're a kkk supporter change my mind
There was no need for Cortana being nerfed
lmao
Ah yes... in the game franchise where humans are being massacred simply for being human, a police siren emblem (in a game where you fight alongside police) and deterring thieves from stealing your stuff during said massacre are the problem.
So 343 caves into the twitter mob every time nice.
Worse is the people who would be upset probably wouldn't have even bought the game anyway
Yuuuup.
@@hornyducks4090 there’s no probably about it.
the world is soft
what are you crying about, they literally just change textures
the NMPD nameplate odst censorings were such cop-outs, no pun intended. it should be held up for preservation sake
honestly, looking back at everything, it is still surprising that halo was never censored in germany back in the day, considering that country's history of censoring shooters, especially in the same generation as halo combat evolved.
Why do they need to censor such small things like "you shoot I loot" or just a nameplate with sirens, in a game where the covenant glass Africa I don't think red and blue sirens are problematic 😂
I noticed that they seemed to get rid of the extermination emblem and callout in infinite multiplayer.
"You loot, I shoot" being removed sucks, but at least "Get off my planet" is a neat little reference to one of Jorge's lines in Reach.
Funny thing about the word "Retard" that it used to be the politically correct term for the special needs. It only be game a slur when people began to use it as an insult.
And it will be only a short amount of time before the term is used again as an socially acceptable phrase.
343's censorship of ODST is absolutely pathetic and spineless.
Games should be preserved as intended, not butchered to cave to the perpetually angry Twitter outrage mob.
Censorship is trash and any company that does it should be called out for it.
Salute from Mexico, I see y'all are still the same.
It isn't just 343 that done this, loads of American companies had this unrest and honestly, with how Microsoft acts I get the feeling it was likely a decision by the higher ups there since Microsoft especially are quite vocal of this shit.
American entertainment in general is in a really weird place since the unrest of 2020, I hope one day it does shift back to a better balance. But American entertainment nowadays almost seems more pandering to appeal to everyone now if that makes sense.
Yeah, especially places like Hollywood
@@JoseHernandez-xv2bt Exactly, but I actually think the gaming industry has been just as hard by it too.
And this is why so many people are looking to Japan for entertainment. They are much less severe when it comes to censorship.
censorship is for the tyrannical and the spineless. but hey, whatever gets that cheap applause on social media
The MCC removed some of my favorite halo 2 IWHBYDB quips, and it actually made me just, not happy with the MCC…
man these videos need more attention idk how you pull this stuff outta the halo franchise but as someone who has been addicted to halo for the past 16 years, i just wanna say thank you guys and keey making these vods!
Personally, I think *all* games should be kept in their preserved states if they're old and get remastered or brought into the current generation. Because it's one thing if something was made in 2001 that is now considered offensive or ignorant here in 2022, versus something being made offensive in 2021 that is still offensive in 2022.
There are just so many different ways people can or can not get offended and we can't cater to everyone, but if it's decades old, leave it alone. Because at that point in time, it wasn't considered offensive, so it's obviously not targeting you or any singular person in particular.
The censorship for ODST is really stupid. (I mean only to the siren nameplate and the graffiti )
A lot of the cencorship issues from MCC and Infinite can be attributed to something called the "Scunthorp" problem in which a part of a word is flagged and the entire thing gets censored as a result.
Another factor is that the algorithms used for many chat filters are a combination of general ones and are not manually set by developers, but rather reused or taken from other things entirely.
This is just the reason why i will keep all the old xbox halo games. Things get changed or removed. I have the mcc from steam but it's still nice having the original halo games that i used to play as a kid because when im playing the games i can easily see or feel the changes between old and mcc version
A big thing I think you forgot to mention is how they changed male and female designations in MCC to heavy armor and light armor or something like that.
Moreover, in classic Halo Reach, a male/female body was tied to a male/female voice, but in MCC they separated them so that you can have a female voice on a male body, etc.
@@GTAVictor9128 based changes that allow for more customization
Censoring any art form including video games is disgraceful
it's not censoring if a game company does it voluntarily fool.
@@jadedheartsz self censoring is still censoring
@@jadedheartsz yes it is. They are being forced to because they will be ganged up on by Twitter. You do know threatening someone into doing something is still forcing them right?
@@halogod0298 no it's not being "forced" upon by anyone liar, Twitter won't "gang up" on them over that fool, nobody "forced" 343 to do anything, they did it on their own.
Also there's plenty of nazis raging on twitter genius.
@@jadedheartsz They did it in fear of getting ganged up on by the Twitter mob. If you can’t understand that that you are lost. Based on your other comments I can tell you’re not that bright. Twitter has too much power over companies and their intellectual property these days. Denying that is foolish.
I have been watching your channel for a few years, I am amazed you continue to produce videos that are original. The ideas you come up with seem endless and varied.
Really well done guys, just had epiphany on that and felt it’s worth mentioning.
"Play Halo exactly as it did 10 years ago"... Or something like that
I'm surprised you didn't mention the extra intro/ending cutscenes that 343 tacked on to Halo 2 Anniversary as a tie in to Halo 5. They are still available to watch, but aren't a part of a regular playthrough of H2A now because they just outright don't make sense based on H5's plot lol.
Living in a democracy, I've never experienced so much censorship and cancel culture.
I'd rather live in a Republic again.
Assuming you live in the U.S, then we do live in a republic :)
@@PrinceZakariyya a democratic republic!
a constitutional democratic republic. very different from both a republic and a democracy. a very solid and intelligently designed governmental system, though not perfect as the current blatant corruption has been allowed to grow beneath the surface. our country needs some work.
Republic is a type of state, democracy is more about how it's governed.
China is a republic, Saudi Arabia a monarchy, both countries are dictatorships. USA is a republic, UK is a monarchy, both are democracies.
wait it's always been a republic?
Always has been
Wow… people offended by a nameplate… a really cool nameplate by the way. And Halo bent over just like that and took it off? That’s so frustrating to me…
Sometimes I wish companies will say “we don’t intend to insult so take it how we mean it. If you think it insults you, get over it”. Then focus on actual important aspects of a game.
They won't because their superiors/publishers won't allow it.
@@JonnyHorseman sadly. Almost wish I became one of those that made the decisions just to stick it to them 😂
I knew about the removing sirens nameplate thing. Still think its just as stupid now as I did then. Apparently anything law enforcement is offensive to people nowadays😒
ACAB
People are just so sick of the bs. Can these companies really stop pandering to the very loud 10% of twitter.
Goodness this world has gotten so unbelievably soft in the past 2 years.
It's why stories and entertainment have gotten so poor. Indie games are so appraised because of the creative freedom afforded them. If all they did was worry about not offending somebody Bungie would have never created Halo.
0:17 this is the most memorable mission of any game. And violent.
Censorship bad I'm always against it no matter what
this isn't censorship tho.
@@jadedheartsz I like how you've said this on every comment. It IS censorship. Intentional design change or not, that IS censorship.
censorship is a tool, wether its good or bad depends on who does it and to what end
@@jadedheartsz Yes it is clown. Stop making these bad comments
@@jadedheartsz did you leave your brain in your dentures jar?
I currently have a problem with a certain voice line being removed from halo 2. The ONLY reason it would’ve been removed is because “oFfEnSiVe” when it wasn’t. Plus it’s becoming political but anywayyyyy
So.... none of these edits are for the passion of art. You have the removal of gore just to get a teen rating to make more sales even though Halo is popular enough to survive with a mature rating. And you also have the removal of "triggers" that may cause people to feel offended yet it is a video game about shooting aliens. Someone in the comments mentioned the "loot you shoot" would be the result of humanity turning on each other because THAT IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. ugh. very good video but reality is aggravating. I haven't played video games in 10 years and I come back to see that this is what video games have become. Games were built different.
when I saw "you loot I shoot" I thought it was another reference to destiny being a looter shooter lol
I like how halo got censored and then when the show comes out there like "censorship whats that"
It’s insane how since halo 5, halo has been brought down for younger audiences and then the show comes out and the first scene where someone shoots we see a young teen get her head and upper body obliterated by a plasma rifle. My friend and I were watching it together and our jaws dropped at that. I got immediate whiplash
@@joshuapurdy7065 wasn’t there also a time in one of the older books that the Plasma Pistol Bolt was described to have burnt and melted right through a Marine’s flesh and bone? That plasma rifle bit reminded me of that
@@ryon5174 yeah plasma weapons in the book are very powerful and are more realistic to what they would be, of course we don’t see it at that degree in the games o my because it’s curated towards gameplay
@@joshuapurdy7065 yeah it’s understandable why it’s like that - but thanks for confirming, never really followed the books a lot to know
I think its wrong to do this. The world changes, but the game as it was released doesn't. Keep your physical copies handy!
Also I miss the large amounts of blood in Halos Bungie days. It gave you the sense that things were serious and not "Disneyfied" like Disney has done with Star Wars.
I really hate censorship in videogames. Its mostly happening so that the demographic can please all the snowflakes out there and to try and get into the Chinese market. I know I sound like some political ass, but it is the truth. Censorship just ruins games for many people including myself. You cant tell the best story or have the best gameplay if its all cushioned for kids. There's so many limitations that it strangles the life out of a lot of stuff. What ever happened to actually being M for mature or T for teen? Censorship goes beyond videogames, I know. A lot of my favorite shows and movies have been effected HEAVILY as well. I guess what I'm trying to say is that politics and and loud snowflakes shouldn't dominate expressive creativity no matter what it is.
I’m still mad at 343 for deciding to cancel the police stuff
I feel like people reacted way to hard to any of these
Basically.
I mean yeah it sucks, but it's really nothing to get bent out of shape over.
Disappointing but not surprising to see Halo conform to progressive social engineering.
I believe art should never be changed after it's released. Things were different in the past, they'll be different in the future. Deleting or removing the context retroactively will only make us more ignorant
Mad respect for Elijah (and probably Luke I would assume) for being able to talk about this from an unbiased view
I never saw the Easter egg but the original looked cooler with the dancing guy.
Destiny posters removed but they were only trying to distance themselves during that time...
Be realistic. 343i have never wanted to be associated with Bungie this is why the series continues to move further and further away from it's roots as a Guns Up Arena Shooter.
343i have never developed a true guns up arena shooter Halo title.
The Halo games 343i develop are some other form of Sci Fi shooter set in the Halo Universe. This is why we keep wanting more Halo games.
Bonnie Ross at E3 said " we want to make Halo something we can call our own" which meant moving in a "new direction" to further distance themselves from the Bungie product so players would associate Halo with 343i and not Bungie this has always been the case since the acquisition of the IP.
This is also why the Halo Tv Series showrunners were not permitted to play the first 3 games. 343i direct them to only their works avoiding association with Bungie's works.
@@enflam3 I thought they didn’t play any of the games at all
@@atch4764 They were permitted to read written works provided by 343i.
This did not include Fall of Reach which is the most important novel in the series. If you've read it you know this is the novel where the Chief is kidnapped by Halsey and made into the Master Chief.
As far as I understand they were not permitted to play any of the games.
I believe this is due to the fact that regardless of 343i's wishes all of their titles still hold at least some associations to the Universe that Bungie created even if very little.
Whereas the written works from
Ghosts of Onyx forward have much less to do with the Universe Bungie created and much more to do with the lore 343i created from Halo 4 and on.
@@enflam3 Please cite where you heard this horseshit because I find this extremely hard to believe. 343 have constantly pushed the original Halo trilogy especially when the PC MCC updates came out. The showrunners didn't play the games because they're fucking idiots. They thought the books were enough, they even sounded snobby thinking video games are dumb.
They sure do want to distance themselves from Bungie... but i don't think they want to distance themselves that bad. The OG trilogy is still the most important part of the franchise, Infinite itself took a lot of inspiration from those titles (whether they succeeded, or not, or if it led to a better game is another thing).
I really don't know where you are getting the TV guys were instructed to not play the first 3 (honestly if they really cared they would have done so even if 343 told them not to)- or read some of the originals books like the Fall of Reach, hell, the whole decision of having Chief's memories suppressed probably came into being because they read Fall of Reach and went with 'what if Halsey never told them the truth' (absolutely moronic decision, but i can see where it originated most likely).
Hearing and seeing the destiny refences took me back to when it was being teased. I really couldn't wait for it and was so disappointed with the results however, I did enjoy the nostalga that the "destiny awaits" poster gave me even if destiny was a meh game.
What do you mean head cannon? Halsey canonically forked Keys, their daughter is Miranda.
There's also the cut civilian execution animations in Halo Reach where the elites would have brutally snapped the neck of civilians and marines. Generalkidd made a video about it if you wanna see them.
This was a Blam! amazing video. Just started playing halo recently and got curious on it's entire history. Especially how it started in it's early days.
Censorship is never ok
Rocket sloth saids: “balm!”
My brain: “blip balm boom”
13:15 What, you're gonna talk about how 343 censored all the @sses in Infinite?
Censorship is terrible no matter what it is or for whatever reason. If it's acceptable to be in a rated M game it shouldn't ever be removed or changed.
Double click on the shortcut icon and... "Blam, Oni crashed" - this is the reason why i never played Oni... For 21 years, on ~10 different computers.
A lot of companies are censoring the word "suicide"
I think videos on UA-cam are now n
Even demonetized for using this word. That's ridiculous. Using the term suicide doesn't automatically glorify it or anything like that. But hey, a while ago I realized that American cartoons for kids can't use the term "hell", like it was a super bad word. It's bizarre how some words are considered a taboo.
@@darealshinji yep. A bass player I'm subscribed to did a cover of suicide and redemption by metallica and the video got demonetized. So he re-uploaded it as s-word and redemption.
I'm surprised you missed the obvious one, THE CREDITS! I missed the slow fades to black as the credits roll from each campaign. I missed seeing the thank you messages from the devs that worked on the project. Of course you get the 343 thank you message at the very end of halo 4 and you can see all credits in an external thing that you can click on, but that's not the same.
I just had a huge brainwave of memories after realizing why everything was called blam! back in the day lol
Censoring video games for things like "you loot, I shoot" or the police siren nameplate is complete nonsense. It is overtly obvious that the developers are not making political statements. Video games like Halo are isolated within their own universe. It is unjust and rather idiotic to apply the laws and reason of our current political/ social system to a made up video game universe. The whole point of playing video games is largely to escape from reality. It is sad to see that some fringe and extremist people in the gaming community see things like the quote or police sirens and call upon mobs of people who have no gaming experience to cancel them.
Can't even escape to videogames in an attempt to avoid reality.
Personally I believe that art should not be censored
I’m just upset that a lot of games with profanity filters won’t let me use the words assistant & circumference. It’s not my fault they are spelled that way, and the context in which I want to use them isn’t anything bad.
I remember seeing the halo 2 manual where they called him dervish and I was confused because I only knew him by arbiter
i disagree with most forms of censorship. the only thing i can think of it being okay, is if it changes something that is factually incorrect, that is supposed to be correct.
This is why I appreciate games like GTA, and the south park games. They make fun of these kinds of censorship and how soft and sensitive people have become.
Not that being sensitive is bad but when some can't take a small joke and whine about it, gets old.
I remember my Halo 2 manual from the collector edition and ones form requal copies. They all said "Arbiter" so I was not one of the supposed lucky few.
This is honestly a shame to me. For this reason and out of apparently justified paranoia, I have kept physical copies of every single entry of the Halo and Gran Turismo franchises for their respective systems. Still seeking a method to properly preserve X360 media within my means, PS legacy preservation is a breeze..
I'm definitely still firmly in camp preservation across the board, but one argument that could be made about historical art preservation vs modern releases is that re-releases are by nature, NOT the original release.
So for instance, take the three examples from Halo 3 ODST:
- MCC's Sirens Nameplate was not a part of original content, and was part of an upcoming live environment. Completely understandable for the devs wanting to change it to not send mixed messaging.
- Marty's removal from ODST is very harsh, and imo is overstepping, but it is understandable from legal concerns. Imo, this one should be reversed, though I understand why it probably won't be.
- The graffiti in New Mombasa is more of a gray area. Definitely a case for preservation, but also understandable for a re-release of the work given the time. Easy to argue to preserve the original, but also one could argue that it isn't necessary, since the original release still plays the original text, and THIS release is now a time-capsule of MCC's release.
Funny enough my Halo 2 manual doesn't even mention the arbiter at all