Indonesian often gets listed as one of the easiest languages in the world to learn and understand. Not surprising they all managed a victory on this one.
Oneof the easiest language to learn, and gets complicated in society because we did not really follow the formal format in society. we mainly said things based on context or just use gestures. like, nodding as yes, or say yap, iya, ya, hooh, hm (like un in japanese), okay, and such.
it goes deeper than just must be easy to understand bcs to unite lots of people, need to use an easy language. An easy language doesnt come in one day. It's one of the easiest language in the world to learn because historically, it came from a language that was once a lingua franca, Malay language, one of Austronesia Language branches. Widely used in Southeast Asia during the trading-maritime period by a lot of traders from around the world to trade with the locals. From Malacca, Java, Arabs, China, India, Ryukyu and more. And to unite the nation with a lot of ethnicities; local indigenous and tribe language and accents, the founder of the nation of Indonesia adopted the lingua franca language to use daily and officially. Because everyone technically already know or at least exposed to the language during that time due to its lingua franca stats. And they also share a long history with its neighbours (the Malay peninsular, Singapore, Brunei) so it only makes sense to adopt the same language as its neighbouring nations. The End lol
I like how Bae was doubting herself if she was right. Its okay Bae, its just how native language speakers pronounce things vs people who just heard of the phrase recently.
Learning the formal one is easy. Probably most westerner get stumped on the velar nasal sound "ng-" like "meNGApa". Then a native indonesian spoke and you got no idea wtf the words they use since most use colloquial form instead of formal. Not to mention dialect and also the introduction and intermixing of local languages. Easy to learn, but not as trivial to master.
@@majesticfoxprobably the hardest word to pronounce is "mempertanggunggjawabkannya" which means "to take responsibility of it" Because most foreigners don't know how to pronounce the "-ng" and "-ny"
@@TheyCallMeDio "-ng" is common. "ny-" is a bit harder, but still trivial. You'll get westerner say "nya" (cat sound) easily. "ng-" on the other hand is the harder one, which doesn't exist in "mempertanggungjawabkannya". English doesn't have "ng-" sound, and as far as I know it mostly exist in SEA. The hard part about that long word is just its length.
I think "segan" here will fit more to "unwilling" rather than "tired of". Tired of is just "lelah" but here Segan is with Tak Mau. Both are similar in meaning. So the saying should be "Unwilling to live, but don't want to die." Segan is more towards "not wanting/unwilling/not daring" rather than "tired of" like, you can even use "Segan" when referring to how people react to someone like "Orang segan dengan dia" which roughly translates to "People fear him" an description that refers to how people do not want/unwilling/do not dare to act audaciously to certain things or somebody.
@@muhajier2239that perfect, this proverb actually mock to people who did nothing in their life cause they don't have a goal nor do they want to try to have a goal
"Reluctant to live, unwilling to die" is more proper IMO. For the second explanation (that "orang segan dengan dia"), "reluctant" is way more proper since it is not an indication of "not daring", but it's the rizz of a particular person is so overwhelming that most people don't want to deal with the uneasiness that comes with it, hence the reluctance.
that, or Mikocchi and Hajime before it got to either of them. I can see the two of them mangling it quite badly, and even if Nerissa was between them she wouldn't have known how to correct it, which would have led to the other two unable to understand whatever mess did come out. Instead, Kobo right after Miko meant she could recognize the saying, disregard any minor errors, and just give the correct version on.
Hidup segan mati tak mahu Saat aku pisah darimu Pahit rasanya gula (??) Manis rasa empedu(huh?), Ku rasa Engkau pergi tanpa berita Habis kisah tutup cerita Menangis dalam tawa (i feel you bro) Senyum dalam derita (pien) kurasa, kurasa..
I don't know what language Google thinks you're speaking, but you don't have to go along with it. Regardless of if your sister is for or against it. :p
For ID member they pronounce the proverb similar to Malay sound than Indonesian sound kinda suprise me. Both Malay and Indonesia are identical in text but have very distinctive sound. Since Indonesia did use Malay as base it make sense huh? Yeah, we also have same proverb here in Malaysia.
From my understanding, the Indonesian language is Malay-based, with a unique phonology and vocabulary derived from languages and dialects in Java, along with borrowings and imitations from the Dutch vocab.
Because it is a proverb. Usually they use a stylized or more formal words for proverb. Also because of that it sounds different than the normal colloquial sentences. An example the use of "tak" as in "tak mau"; normally people will just say "ogah", "ga mau", "enggak mau", in increasingly polite order. Using "tak mau" would be reserved when you really-really don't want to and want to make it a "performance" for how unusual the word is (usually as "Tak mau lah"). If the proverb were changed into colloquial it would become "Idup males, mati juga ogah."
@@cherrytreekeeper It is non formal. But it is generally used more often than formal. That's why the "indonesian sound" is more attached to colloquial indonesian rather than poetic or formal indonesian. Which is what the person wondered.
this Just prove that Indonesian Languange is easy to pronounce, I mean even Miko and Hajime managed to pronounce it, even if they dont understand the meaning
Mikochi can speak Indo Properly bcz Mikochi Teach HoloID Girl from Holosport ID 2022 "before Advent or Pekora2023 participate" Teach Bad Word on Different Language from (Zeta, Anya, Risu, Ollie, Reine)
I wonder why Ollie gave Bae that specific phrase. There are a lot of Indonesian tongue twisters like the popular one "Kuku kaki" or anything. I hope Ollie is feeling well
Waduh lika liku kehidupan ini 😅 true perfecto fact in living society 😅 not much people's care or can help your side, GOD is watching just don't killeng yerself whatever it took/takes 😅
"Hidup Segan, Mati BURGER"
I don't wanna live, but i want BURGER lmao..
*I don't wanna live, but if I die I become burgir🍔
Where the hell borgar 🍔 came from
@@chadnarukami1942probably instead of Mau, its Mac lmao😂
@@chadnarukami1942 MikoDonald's
It's 'I don't wanna live, dead burger' ...
2:55 that "SEGAN!" after all that calm demeanor is so funny
And she dialed back to be calm again lol.
Kobo nge GAS anjir wkwk
Kobo said calmly
She was roleplaying being tired of life, but then remembered who she was.
It instantly reminded me of Kobo shouting on Sana: “Not BAKOD! CODD!!!!”
Remember that, one time Miko read "Ga Bahaya Ta" fluently.
Remember Mikochi Can Speak Indo on ID Sport Micra 2022 before Advent. Teaching Zeta, Anya, Risu, etc
Remember mikochi says "nyangkul nyangkul, helo kucing" (digging digging, hello cat) when she doing Minecraft stream 3 years ago
So Mikochi can speak indo better than jp and en. Hmm naruhudo ne
Kobo say "segan SEGAAN", we indonesian called "nge gass"(emotion like litle angry)😅
Brother i need this clip
1:10 miko pulling out burger out of nowhere had me laughing my ass off so hard 😂
I see Kobo holding her anger for one word wrong.... 😂, thank God this lesson not going like when she teach sana say "bacot"
I miss Sana..
@@dalrend7413 we all do my friend...... We all do.
you mean bacod?
@@AC-ut3nk "NO BACOD, BACOT" 🤣
Batot!
1:14 burger
🍔
JDON MY SOUL
Amen
JDON MY SOUL 🙏
Amen
Jdon my soul 🙏
🙏
Indonesian often gets listed as one of the easiest languages in the world to learn and understand.
Not surprising they all managed a victory on this one.
It is an easy language because... The mother language of each places in Indonesia are hella complicated
Pathetic , English Is Easiest Language , Baka 😖
Yes it is originally made to unite Indonesian ethnicities. That's why it HAS to be easy to understand.
Oneof the easiest language to learn, and gets complicated in society because we did not really follow the formal format in society. we mainly said things based on context or just use gestures. like, nodding as yes, or say yap, iya, ya, hooh, hm (like un in japanese), okay, and such.
it goes deeper than just must be easy to understand bcs to unite lots of people, need to use an easy language.
An easy language doesnt come in one day.
It's one of the easiest language in the world to learn because historically, it came from a language that was once a lingua franca, Malay language, one of Austronesia Language branches. Widely used in Southeast Asia during the trading-maritime period by a lot of traders from around the world to trade with the locals. From Malacca, Java, Arabs, China, India, Ryukyu and more. And to unite the nation with a lot of ethnicities; local indigenous and tribe language and accents, the founder of the nation of Indonesia adopted the lingua franca language to use daily and officially. Because everyone technically already know or at least exposed to the language during that time due to its lingua franca stats. And they also share a long history with its neighbours (the Malay peninsular, Singapore, Brunei) so it only makes sense to adopt the same language as its neighbouring nations.
The End lol
Miko: Hidup segan, mati... burger....
Me: Yes, Miko, my life is indeed nothingburger right now.
I like how Bae was doubting herself if she was right. Its okay Bae, its just how native language speakers pronounce things vs people who just heard of the phrase recently.
Everyone did such a great job, even Miko-chi and Hajime. But what really got me was how calm Kobo sounded towards Nerissa.
Calm with suppressed rage
Because nerissa scared of kobo, remember when they play dota
Burger~~~
@@ellsomach If your friend play Dota or League, be scare for their silence rage because that mean they already reached the Stygian.
"SEGAN!" Kobo said calmly. Big Goblet of Fire energy.
I think this is one proof that Indonesian is one of the easiest language to learn.
It actually is, but this is a very short Indonesian saying. Hardly enough example.
Learning the formal one is easy. Probably most westerner get stumped on the velar nasal sound "ng-" like "meNGApa". Then a native indonesian spoke and you got no idea wtf the words they use since most use colloquial form instead of formal. Not to mention dialect and also the introduction and intermixing of local languages.
Easy to learn, but not as trivial to master.
@@majesticfoxprobably the hardest word to pronounce is "mempertanggunggjawabkannya" which means "to take responsibility of it"
Because most foreigners don't know how to pronounce the "-ng" and "-ny"
@@TheyCallMeDio "-ng" is common. "ny-" is a bit harder, but still trivial. You'll get westerner say "nya" (cat sound) easily. "ng-" on the other hand is the harder one, which doesn't exist in "mempertanggungjawabkannya". English doesn't have "ng-" sound, and as far as I know it mostly exist in SEA. The hard part about that long word is just its length.
@@majesticfoxbro dah kata ENGlish lol, the word itself dah ada NG sound😅
I think "segan" here will fit more to "unwilling" rather than "tired of". Tired of is just "lelah" but here Segan is with Tak Mau. Both are similar in meaning. So the saying should be "Unwilling to live, but don't want to die."
Segan is more towards "not wanting/unwilling/not daring" rather than "tired of" like, you can even use "Segan" when referring to how people react to someone like "Orang segan dengan dia" which roughly translates to "People fear him" an description that refers to how people do not want/unwilling/do not dare to act audaciously to certain things or somebody.
Maybe not translating it literally can help, I think "No will to live, no wish to die" would fit better, simpler and easier to understand.
@@muhajier2239that perfect, this proverb actually mock to people who did nothing in their life cause they don't have a goal nor do they want to try to have a goal
@@AxeDatcmliterally me
"Reluctant to live, unwilling to die" is more proper IMO.
For the second explanation (that "orang segan dengan dia"), "reluctant" is way more proper since it is not an indication of "not daring", but it's the rizz of a particular person is so overwhelming that most people don't want to deal with the uneasiness that comes with it, hence the reluctance.
Dhlh
SEGAN DEEZ NUTS
Its almost inpossible for indonesians to not recognise this phrase, we literally heard/read this almost everyday throughout our life😂
"hidup segan, mati tak mau"
no matter how tired are you, just keep on living!
theres more happiness coming your way ♥️
Miko elite Indonesian moment, and when Miko says burger, it really got me 🤣
The only way for them to lose this round is set up kobo and kaela right next to each other at the first and second place
that, or Mikocchi and Hajime before it got to either of them.
I can see the two of them mangling it quite badly, and even if Nerissa was between them she wouldn't have known how to correct it, which would have led to the other two unable to understand whatever mess did come out.
Instead, Kobo right after Miko meant she could recognize the saying, disregard any minor errors, and just give the correct version on.
Fun fact: when nerissa said "hidup segan" as "hirup segan", it has different meaning from "tired of living" to be "tired of sniffing/take breath" 😂
She would never get tired of sniffing
she's maybe correct tho, hirup is hidup also in sunda wkwk
4:58 mati segan, hidup tak mau
Same power
Relatable
Does it mean 'Die hard, but don't want to live'?
looll, yeah I thought Kobo tried to said that joke 🤣
@@immercup if we follow the translation of "segan", it will translate as "Die reluctantly, but don't want to (continue) live"
I have never expected to hear that phrase from this collab
For a moment I heard rimuru laugh
😂
5:07
Maou-sama !?!
2:02 "hUh?"
Damn its hilarious when kobo always Scream if it doesn't fit that she want something 😂
The proverb simply reverberates through everyone at some point. They felt it in their souls.
Didn't know everyone is so fluent at Indonesian, all that's left is to teach them the "trashtalk" xD
That order Almost disaster, (because they had miko and hajime) 😂
2:52 you got it right ! You can't forget risu or at least biboo 😂
I wish Nerissa will become the next student of Reine's Bahasa stream
ini membuktikan bahwa bahasa indonesia bisa jadi bahasa internasional karena lebih mudah dilafalkan daripada inggris atau jepang
This Entire Stream is a Such Gold Mine.
Bae really Cooked something here, Hoping for more of this.
Miko's "mau" sounds like cat sounds 🤣🤣
The surprise Risu always gets me. Lemao
nice! having two competent indonesian speakers makes this much easier and smoother than any other language.
Syukur dah semua udah bisa bahasa indonesia berkat Baelz.👍
Hidup segan mati tak mahu
Saat aku pisah darimu
Pahit rasanya gula (??)
Manis rasa empedu(huh?), Ku rasa
Engkau pergi tanpa berita
Habis kisah tutup cerita
Menangis dalam tawa (i feel you bro)
Senyum dalam derita (pien) kurasa, kurasa..
Malah nyanyi cuk 🤣
sadly this is the final episode of baecademy yes?
however, it's really great episode.
soo many interesting part from the stream.
why is this the final one? did bae decided to axe this academy series?
KOBO : "What language is this?"
Bruh
They have indonesians in between to correct the pronunciation.
that's actually me , that proverb.
Keep living ❤
hidup suka mati burger
mikochi：dabu chee！
Everyone in this moment: "relatable. Understandable."
That lower case no from kobo😂😂
i love calm voice Kobo
where did that burger come from , lol.
mati BURGER
Burger 👍
That is song lyric so basically everyone heard it know the lyric, just like Kobo even after hearing Miko saying it kinda different
Miko makes it sound like she's speaking in a broken Padangnese accent
2:36 hmm yeah
"Segan Mau Dik"
I don't know what language Google thinks you're speaking, but you don't have to go along with it. Regardless of if your sister is for or against it.
:p
"hidup segan, mati tak mau"
sekali dengar dah macam bahasa melayu tapi dalam dialek kedah.
Yeah 😂 I'm Indonesia studying in Malay..my friend from Kedah understands me with no problem
2:53
Yes Burger 😂😂
Ada Indonesia coey 🗣️💢
02:55
Miko lancar banget 😂
Adeh, teringat lagu ya ..hidup segan mati tak mau😂
1:11 BURGER
For ID member they pronounce the proverb similar to Malay sound than Indonesian sound kinda suprise me. Both Malay and Indonesia are identical in text but have very distinctive sound. Since Indonesia did use Malay as base it make sense huh? Yeah, we also have same proverb here in Malaysia.
From my understanding, the Indonesian language is Malay-based, with a unique phonology and vocabulary derived from languages and dialects in Java, along with borrowings and imitations from the Dutch vocab.
Because it is a proverb. Usually they use a stylized or more formal words for proverb. Also because of that it sounds different than the normal colloquial sentences.
An example the use of "tak" as in "tak mau"; normally people will just say "ogah", "ga mau", "enggak mau", in increasingly polite order. Using "tak mau" would be reserved when you really-really don't want to and want to make it a "performance" for how unusual the word is (usually as "Tak mau lah").
If the proverb were changed into colloquial it would become "Idup males, mati juga ogah."
It sound indonesian
@@majesticfox gak,ogah, It's not standard language, it's from regional/everyday languages.
gak = enggak
@@cherrytreekeeper It is non formal. But it is generally used more often than formal. That's why the "indonesian sound" is more attached to colloquial indonesian rather than poetic or formal indonesian. Which is what the person wondered.
"hidup segan, mati tak mau" is easy
try "uler melingker di atas pager muter muter"
Bae ❤❤😂
Wait Miko is ID all this time? But wasn't she Holo EN Gen 0?
She one time learning javanese too
Mikochi is an Elite Golbal.
Okay translated version should be hesitated to living, but reject death
Sick of living, refuse to die XD
I mean, we all thought we knew the lyrics to Ken Lee at some point or other.
where did burger came from XDD
5:07 that laugh sounds like rimuru
みここぼで奇跡的に伝わってて笑った
this Just prove that Indonesian Languange is easy to pronounce, I mean even Miko and Hajime managed to pronounce it, even if they dont understand the meaning
Mikochi can speak Indo Properly bcz Mikochi Teach HoloID Girl from Holosport ID 2022 "before Advent or Pekora2023 participate" Teach Bad Word on Different Language from (Zeta, Anya, Risu, Ollie, Reine)
Nerissa kinda sound like reine wheen talking indonesian
That's how you learn language
2:53 LOL, that caught me off guard
mikochi is holodID 0.5 for sure
When they said indonesian is the easiest language, they're not wrong lol
lmao kobo, mati segan, hidup tak mau ....!! unwilling to die, but refuse to live
Hidyp Segang, mmatyak mau 💜
"tak mau" sounds like the dialect of Malaysians who live in the north of Malaysia...
Miko's 'hidup' sounds really cute
I wonder why Ollie gave Bae that specific phrase. There are a lot of Indonesian tongue twisters like the popular one "Kuku kaki" or anything. I hope Ollie is feeling well
Try to say (ular melingkar di pagar getar getar)
Waduh lika liku kehidupan ini 😅 true perfecto fact in living society 😅 not much people's care or can help your side, GOD is watching just don't killeng yerself whatever it took/takes 😅
You need inesrt word with R to rise the difficulty
Kurang hard aja sih, harusnya pake yg ini "Kuku kaki kakak kakekku kaku"
Please translate this to EN
Ada "Ada Indonesia coy" coy
Si hajime ngomongnya banyak pake 'ain ya 😂
3:42 Nosebleed
Mau sounds like mao,Devil's King.
Kobo: what language is this?!
that time I reincarnated as a burger season 2
mati segan , hidup tak mau.
me at one point
kobo: what language 😂
Mati segan😂
Burgerrrr
Kobo lupa bahasa sendiri 😂
harus nya "kuku kaki ku kyak kuku kaki kakek ku"😂😂
2:08
Miko: *Speak indonesian
Kobo: What languange is this..
1:08 Girl was hungry lmao
😂😂😂 1:13 burger? OMG😂
She's hungry.🍔
HAHAHAHAH omg i lost it at burger. hahahahah.
SEGAN!!
NO BAKOD, CHOODDDDD!
2:54 for myself😊