Yeah let's just be realistic this mission was horrible it was one of the biggest waste of times I've ever seen it was a garbage mission I think everyone hated it in look up code on how to skip it because let's just be honest it's probably 1 the most difficult annoying stupid repetitive missions as I Hey we sent it a special task force you know instead of taking something useful like a tie fighter and Imperial Walker anything not a steal the slowest moving smallest Imperial walkers that are basically walking tissue boxes
From what I gleaned, the commandos had their cover blown and were making a desperate break for safety with whatever limited resources they had on hand. I also presumed that the alliance operated under a "no man left behind" strategy in contrast to the empire who deemed their troops as utterly expendable. Finally, do you know if speeders register on radar or sensor equipment more than a starfighter would? A potential advantage for speeders could be that they're able to sneek in close to the mission area before making their presence known.
@@Antidragon-nl7by Actually The rebels did actually use strategies especially legends where they would leave people to die if they were going to Lose more resources to rescue them in fact there been more than one suicide missions were people agreed to be Left Behind if they'd had to and as for it using equipment on hand ya I agree but it still they could you stole a walk or something anything would have been better than those 3 slow moving target and finally snow speeders really don't go on the radar they don't have stealth when Built-in and is hardly know they're just civilians armed and have reinforced armor that's about it yes the tow cable does help but overall I think X wings and Y wings would been better
That level took me a few tries when I was younger to beat but I'm a dark souls player now so maybe I just like a challenge lol. I'm kinda curious though, did the rebellion have a designated ground attack starfighter? Or was the ground attack role limited to air speeders?
@@Delvien Let make sense I would like to play dark souls myself but I would still never play at level Ever again and as your question yes the rebels did have ground vehicles and land assault craft but they weren't used it often and most of them were repurchased civilian ships with thicker armor and more guns
Rebels at fest: I destroyed an entire imperial installation that was heavily defended with the most useless ship credits could buy Rebels attacking the unfinished first Death Star: ow no our lukerhulk and 500 xwings went boom
I always hated that attack, the rebels had to lose that battle obviously but making all the fighters just ignore the tie fighters and go for the deathstar was really dumb
Probably didn't have a ship able to carry an AT-AT but you would think they would at least have stolen the AT-PTs from a location that isn't guarded by AT-ATs!
The way my mind always imagined it was that the commandos were there for another reason and simply used the AT-PTs to make their escape. You're there to make sure they survive. I know you said it would be better to leave them behind, but perhaps they accomplished their goal and were carrying secret Imperial plans. Or maybe they didn't want those commandos to be sacrificed. Or maybe the AT-PTs were going to be essential to a later operation. Tyderium wasn't really all that valuable on its own, but it was still a big effort to steal that. Or maybe in an upcoming mission, the Alliance needed to navigate tight, narrow spaces with steep slopes. For a mission like that, the AT-PT is second to none.
i always been thinking WTH with this mission then i like "OH! they going to Reverse engineer AT-PT or Something" they are like APC, even there designs shows this. But however there are otherways they could had gotten this mission done but then again that depends on The contexts really.
I didn't have the N64 so I played this game just a few times at a friend's house. When they set me up with this mission I didn't catch the description properly, so the first thing I did was to fire on the AT-PTs themselves…
This reminds me of that edit of ROTJ where Chewie and the Ewoks hijack the AT-ST on Endor and start firing on the Rebels and the Ewoks and blow up Han & Leia outside the shield generator doors xD
Welcome to the rebellion, where the only thing worse then our tactics, is our logistics! With your almost non-existant skills, Youll fit right in with many other unskilled soldiers!
@@xxvaltielxx1789 wouldn't help since stormtroopers were taught by Cody and other clone veterans that actually served many years more than Rex and Cody
Even way back then, I always felt being locked into the snowspeeder in every mission where an AT-AT happens to exist seemed...forced. It's just silly, both in game logic and in universe.
@@gundamnexus-dk8yi But as Eck pointed out, the AT-AT wouldn't be able to stand up to an attack from a Y-Wing. Or, really, any other starfighter that had warhead launchers. The only reason the speeders were able to do it at Hoth was because Luke came up with that tripping attack using the tow cables, which still relies heavily on luck that the speeder won't be shot down during its predictable flight pattern while circling the AT-AT to wrap the cable around it. The X-Wings would have actually been much more useful at Hoth - fly out, take down the walkers with a torpedo or two, then escort the transports out under the protection of the ion cannon. Really, the Alliance just grabs ahold of the Idiot Ball whenever AT-ATs show up. it's like they deliberately choose THE absolute worst possible tactics for dealing with them, then wonder why their half-assed plan didn't work.
@@gundamnexus-dk8yi But that makes no sense. Throughout the rest of the game you're blapping turbolaser turrets left and right, leveling entire complexes with Y-wings, but walkers are immune to all that? Forced. Don't get me started on the narrative shift from 'unorthodox desperation tactic' to 'just how you fight walkers, its a good thing the empire never thought to put wirecutteres on their legs despite dozens of embarrasing losses...'
It was pretty much video game law back then, even if lorewise the at-at could be killed by other things, they had somehow incorporate at-at and snowspeeder fights. in rogue-squadron I'm pretty sure they're invulnerable until toppled
“What were they thinking?” Something along the lines of “This will be our obligatory rage-quit inducing level.” I swear, I used Gameshark to skip this series be until I figured out how to do it. Even then, it was hit-or-miss every time.
I thought the point of Fest wasn't to steal the AT-PTs, just that those were the only things the scientists they were rescuing could steal to run away with.
Rogue Squadron is one of the most famous N64 games and one of the most famous star wars games ever. How did you not hear of it? Were you living under a rock?
Argh! THIS MISSION? It took me ages to get those fragile, suicidal blaster magnets to the end of the mission. The first time I actually succeeded, I had two left when the bombers came; I shot one down and it crashed ON one of the walkers! Thanks for stirring up traumatic memories *shivers*
"When you reach your destination, you'll find an imperial research facility from which a team of rebel commandos are attempting to liberate a squad of AT-PTS. Their escape has become compromised, and we need your help to get them out of there. The speeders and tow cables will help you with any walker you may find. Good luck" the start of the most hated mission of my childhood
Nice nostalgia trip here Kinda funny how so much of the games we loved as kids were actually super dumb in certain aspects but the gameplay itself was still so good that we didn't care
I have fond memories of this game but I seem to remember that AT-PTs that you had to protect in this Mission we're being piloted by Imperial scientists/engineers that work defecting. That could be why they sent you with just snowspeeders, because the mission was sprung on the alliance when they got the distress call and couldn't organize a better assault.
Even though it was a difficult mission that made no sense, it is still one of my favorite level. This is likely because the odds are stacked against you and protecting all three the whole way is so rewarding. Anyways, I agree with all your points. I remember having similar thoughts even as a kid playing this. I still play this game, I love it too much. It's what really catapulted my Star Wars fandom.
@@tev2332 It was quite the challenge. I was young and I felt bad that someone died, so I wouldn't let myself progress until they all survived. haha. I was really into it
Besides when you unlock all starfighters and airspeeders you notice only the T-47 only missions (and oddly enough Naboo starfighter) is mainly because it takes like hella lot of shots to blow up a non-tow cabeled AT-AT even with Bombs and torpedoes.
You're missing the picture, the battle was to humiliate the imperials to show how powerless they are against a small group of alliance soldiers. The fact that the rebels, outmanned and outgunned by a grand margin, manage to destroy majority of a imperial garrison on research station is a major moral shock against the empire equivalent to the destruction of the first Deathstar.
"the AT-PTs have been destroyed i repeat the AT-PTs have been destroyed" still rings in my nightmares, along with "all employees proceed to the bottom platform" from reeident evil 2 and "all you had to do was follow the damn train CJ" from GTA San Andreas
I was *furious* when, after failing this mission over and over and over again, I saw the cover of "Isard's Revenge" (1999) and realized that the Alliance could have just sent X-wings to take out the AT-ATs.
Of all the missions in Rogue Squadron, this is the one that stuck with me the longest. It was frustrating to a nine year old, demanding a lot of skill in little time. To this day, I can remember replaying it over and over, because AT-PTs were easily wiped out by the AT-ATs, and if you didn't rush to the first segment of the mission, the first AT-AT would wreck one of them before you had a chance to rescue it. I had no idea as a kid why three commandos were stealing AT-PTs and not something far more valuable like an AT-AT. I'm glad I'm not the only one who hated this level.
In Rogue Squadron if a mission has AT-ATs, you can't fly as anything other than Snowspeeders because it's basically impossible to destroy them without tripping them with tow cables. This makes sense on an internally consistent level as all missions with AT-ATs have their destruction as prerequisites to completion with the sole exception of Imperial Construction Yards. It has AT-ATs but you don't need to destroy them to win, yet still requires you to use Snowspeeders. As for the AT-PTs themselves I always rationalized it as commandos just being on a mission, getting caught, and attempting to escape using the AT-PTs so it's more of a rescue mission of the men themselves, however admittedly the briefing, opening cutscene ("-attempting to liberate a squad of AT-PTs."), and comms chatter really imply the importance of the AT-PTs themselves so I'm not sure. It is baffling one would waste resources on three patrol walkers.
It basically means that in English too. It's just shorthand for "festival." For example, a city might have a "Harbor Fest" which could be days celebrating boats, waterways, seafood, etc.
Wouldn't it be nice if you were flying the t-47 to take out the walkers and maybe the rest of your squadron provided cover in a bunch of x-wings? Genius, I know
Honestly I’ve also wondered this at Hoth...they definitely had X-Wings, and even if they were low on torpedos (and if they weren’t, unless ATAT’s have better armor then star destroyers torpedos should’ve made quick work of them) Either way the x-wings seem like they would’ve been better...
@@TheTrytix hehehe. No..... Not going to argue but they are different. Bokmål is a mix of Danish and nynorsk. Let's not go there or I have to defend my pride being Swedish.
@@drox3992 Okay, listen here, buddy. Compared to English, Norwegian and Swedish are more closely related. That was what i meant. I didn't mean to bring in Danish, because, yes, Danish may be a bit closer to Norwegian than Swedish. But again, we can easily understand each other even if we speak our own language.
I feel like the plans stolen from Fest were probably a part of Seerdon's plan to capture Thyferra (something that the Empire probably would've been hesitant to do officially because Thyferra is legally a neutral party and they could have their own bacta supplies cut off by trying to seize the Alliance's).
I swear that loading in section tripped me up as a kid. For years I thought the snow speeder was capable of space flight, and always wondered why it was called a speeder but could fly in space.
I think they where looking to recreate the Hoth battle in someway. That's why they require you to play using the snow speeder. Adding a wing of Y wings in the second half of the level would have been smart. But it might have been a limitation of the engine at the time that kept them from doing just that. I actually have been thinking of playing this recently. After reworking the lay out of my living room I ended up hooking my GC up and this was up there on games I really want to replay threw.
Yeah in Isard's Revenge, Rogue Squadron take out at-at's with x-wing cannons. Sure by that point firepower has increased, but you have to imagine the cannons on x-wings at this period in history would still do meaningful damage... much less what a y-wing bomb would do. The mission was basically just an excuse to bust out snowspeeders because when else are you going to use them.
There were even screenshots of the game where X-Wings were combating the walkers at Fest, which meant that X-Wings were originally supposed to be in the mission.
I was always under the impression that the commandos were there to steal research data and commendeered the AT-PTs as a means of escape when things went balls up. Which does make sense. The AT-ATs were probably more heavily guarded and harder to get to than the smaller walkers which also due to their smaller size and only having a crew of one probably made them easier to steal.
5:23 Fun Fact: If you shoot enoght times at the head of the AT-AT you will destroy it (in game, and and im not saying when you take it out with the cable, im saying when it is still walking)
I just got my gold medal for this level today (thanks to your live stream, I've been playing this game again after almost 20 years) This level might not be the hardest, but it is the most frustrating. Unless you play it PERFECTLY it all goes horribly wrong horribly quickly. I lost count of how many times I just ended up straffing the last two AT-PTs just to end the level quickly. Rinse and repeat. Rinse and repeat. RINSE AND...
The Fest mission is tough af but is still possible to beat saving all 3 AT-PTs. 1. You gotta be quick and focused, no exploring and only destroying the designated targets for the 1st part. 2. Hold down that A button for constant acceleration. 3. When destroying the tanks give yourself distance between yourself and the tanks with the break on and keep your aim steady and make your shots count. 4. Sometimes the 1st AT-AT might sometimes destroy 1 of the AT-PTs just abort the mission and start over if you want all 3 to survive.
As for how the Rebellion deploys snowspeeders and V-Wings into the vacuum of space, maybe they’re positioned in a way that they just fall to the planet like a meteorite, minus them actually crashing into the planet’s surface in question
Use of a harpoon and tow cable to take down an ATAT is a tactic you would expect to work once and only once. Literally all the ATAT pilot would need to do is stop moving until troopers dropped out the walker and cut the cables. And yet so many Star Wars games (not just Rogue Squadron) act like this is the only possible way of ever taking down an ATAT.
04:20 “Can’t operate in space” after just watching one exit out the hanger in the video Haha not having a go at you, and I know that they can’t, but it’s just funny timing. Love ya content 👍🏼
You do have a point and some darker material has rebels doing a lot worse than leaving men to die but the majority of star wars media always has had the rebels be more idealistic and almost always go back for rescue ops or civilian extractions.
I saw that you included the essential guide to vehicles and vessels page on AT-PTs. I don’t even know how I still remember what this book looks like after so long
Star Wars games like to pretend that T-47s are the best (and sometimes even only) weapon against AT-ATs - that's why they're in the mission - but in reality, they're the worst thing you can throw at an AT-AT. This is why they had to use the harpoon tactic, after all. It was a desperate tactic.
I don't think I ever actually did complete that mission myself. It really was a hard one. The only reason why the Snowspeeder used for that mission, as far as I can tell, is because in that game the AT-AT's are functionally invincible to your normal weapons and they can only be disabled by using the Tow Cable. And, there are several missions in this game aside from the famous Battle of Hoth where you must pilot a Snowspeeder, because in all of these there will be AT-ATs that you will have to deal with. This includes the.... Defection at Corellia and the raid on an Imperial TIE fighter and walker production facility.
T47 to sent out to protect old walkers. Against atte, and the tie bomber. And other defense. Explains why you die so much in that mission you’ll need a miracle to survive.
"WEDGE! An entire planet of Imperials is trying to kill like, 3 dude!" "We gotta help them! What do we have?" "Fucking tow cables my guy!" Wedge, looking very concerned: "God has abandoned these men, but WE. SHALL. NOT!"
Hey Ecks, I have my own star destroyer that I think is overall, very useful. I call it the Inferno-Class. It’s about 3 kilometers long, has about 500 point defense laser cannons all along the hull including some near the engines, 200 dual turbo lasers, 50 Quad turbo lasers, around 100 light ion cannons and 70 heavy ion cannons. Its bridge is among the superstructure, and I makes use of shield projectors in the trenches and does not have a hangar to make space for a secondary reactor. If you see this please tell me what you think.
Getting gold on this mission was a f*cking nightmare. You had to haul ass and hope that whatever walking pattern the AT PT's took and that the aim of the AT-AT was off just to have enough time to save them all. Then you had to stop those bombers from dropping a SINGLE bomb just to be on the safe side.
So this kinda like: Allied Command: The Germans have a new variant of the Panzer IV, we're going to send the best pilots in the RAF to help some SOE agents steal them from a heavily fortified compound deep inside the Reich. RAF: So what so special about these tanks? AC: Their slightly longer than a regular Pz IV. RAF: Okay.... We'll send some Mosquito's to soften up the ground defenses and keep the AA busy, then once SOE inserts we'll have a couple of Squadrons of Spitfires keep the Luftwaffe at, then once SOE's clear we'll follow up with some Lancasters to destroy the facility, sound good? AC: Oh no, no your going to escort the tanks whilst every mildly annoyed German takes a shot at them RAF.... at least tell me we'll be flying something that can take a hit, like a Typhoon, or a Mustang. AC: No, you going to be in Gloster Gladiators.
5:21 no y-wings required. T47s don't have lasers, they have blasters, that's why they are unable to get past an AT-AT's armor. An x-wing's lasers are more than capable of shredding the walkers, as shown in the movie Rogue One, as well as Isard's Revenge, and other novels (but i couldn't tell you which ones of the top of my head)
I remember all those years ago that level was a pain in the neck and you have to be spot on to get it right but easier on the PC version for some odd reason. I jumped back into the pilot seat last month and took me several goes to get a bronze star on this game. i still feel the frustration til this very day.
Best way to do this mission is to immediately veer right and blow up the shield, fly over and tie the walker by it. Zoom over and tie the other walker on the path to the shuttle, and then hit the base if you have enough time before rogue squadron breaks the gate for you. You can completely ignore the walker that's attacking them originally, it will never have a proper angle on them and they'll get away with little to no scratches
Given how terrible the mission goal was, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out the mission itself was a cover for something more sinister that command wanted to keep secret from even their own men. Like the walkers themselves were laden with crates of spice and someone needed them to pay off his/her debts or fund the Alliance's efforts. "Who cares if this makes no sense? We must acquire the cargo, no matter the risk." "But sir... all we have available is a few snow speeders and..." "Then deploy THEM! I--err, WE NEED THAT SPICE."
Good video. I thought the commandos had stolen intel and were just using the AT-PTs as getaway vehicles. That's not a great idea, but it makes more sense than what actually happened.
The snowspeeder is the only thing that can take out the ATAT in Rogue Squadron. They wanted a snowspeeder mission in each chapter. Hence Fest. Yes in reality the mission could have been handled differently, but this is done in game terms. Also I believe they were there for something else (It is a research station after all) and used the ATPT's to escape as they are the quickest walker. (At least in game.)
Thanks eck, you remeber me a old trauma from my childhood. I have the rogue squadron game and never, I repeat, NEVER, can pass these mission, these guys was a kind of suicide person but with a walker without any defense ir firepower. A walking target I suppose
Well, the game was made and released in '98, the first you know of them as being old clone wars equipment was several years later after episode 3 came out. Which was 2005. So up to that point you assumed that it was state of the art, brand new equipment. Least that's how I remember it.
@Trey Stephens I don't know what's so hard to understand. The "planet" includes its atmosphere, which reaches up into space. The ground of the planet is not in space, in the same way the core of the planet is not in the planet's atmosphere.
@Trey Stephens You could easily bring up the case of planets and moons with no atmosphere to point at regions of "space" where ground is very close and you could use repulsors, but you insist on doubling down with the wrong logical argument.
Fits the Rebell MO sadly, I mean they approached the Walkers in Empire from the front and instead of bolstering their defenses with X-Wings and Y-Wings they sent them with the transports, who they were giving covering-fire anyway!)...not to mention going to a freaking Ice-Planet in the first place! Even a jungle-world makes more sense :(
One thing that really bothered me, and made the mission much harder - the AT-PTs charge ahead like Leeroy Jenkins, never waiting for you to kill the AT-ATs. God, I hated this mission. I ended up using a hack to get around it - got gold medals legitimately on all the other levels. What I think would have been cool would be a shuttle escort mission, have the engines get damaged or something so it has to fly slowly.
The reason for the use of T-47s is obvious from a gameplay perspective; the devs made AT-ATs invulnerable to all weapons except the tow cable maneuver. But yeah, from a lore perspective it makes no sense; other sources like the X-Wing novels clearly demonstrate that starfighters are capable of destroying AT-ATs with warheads like proton torpedoes. As for the AT-PTs, that's a product of inconsistent lore. The game manual indicates that they're a hot new Imperial design, despite other sources stating their Clone Wars-era origin. I think the devs just wanted a cool looking "mini-walker" in the game, and they figured the AT-PT was obscure enough that most people wouldn't notice the discrepancy. My headcanon for the incident is that these particular AT-PTs were testbeds for some new experimental tech. The Alliance wanted what the walkers were carrying, not the walkers themselves.
Note that the same facility has research of concrete use to the Rebellion/ player, the seeker proton torpedo. The commandos should have gotten that! Thankfully, you can do it for them.
Two other things to consider in your arguments: First is that you could reverse engineer the at-pt by stealing them. So your "steal the plans" is still essentially accomplished by this. Second is... with the design being that old, there have to be other plans out there on the holonet. Meaning rebels could pretty much hack, black market purchase, or otherwise obtain the info to make their own at-pt's with much less risk. So no, but actually yes to your argument.
Well I guess not every commander can be a genius of battle field tactics... one however could at least expect them to be competent and not use the strategy "Hay remember that time we were out gunned and almost slaughtered? lets knowingly use that plan!" Anyway, I'll like to see more videos like this comparing what happens in games for the sake of game play vs what would actually be a sound plan. In particular in love to see this for my personal favorite star wars games being the psp games Battlefront: renegade and elite squadron.
Wouldn't be surprised if the T-47 had some limited maneuvering thrusters and were heat resistant enough to drop themselves into the atmosphere and control their descent until their repulsorlifts become operational. Would be especially cool as a kind of hotshot Alliance modification so that they could be deployed to the surface without a transport.
btw you can shoot the AT-ATs to death, I did once on Defection at Corellia (I failed the mission). I think you also get to bomb them on the second part of the razor mission in Rogue Squadron 2.
For me it was the second game that had the most rage-inducing level. And guess what? Involved AT-PTs. The mission is right outside a downed Star Destroyer, it's all good until you have to use a Y-Wing to destroy a horde of those things coming out of the SD. But it's so hard to see them! I always had to wait til they were on the beach, but the transport you were defending was so fragile sometimes that was too late.
From a risk perspective it would have made more sense if the were collecting the walkers for future incursions on more secure locations from a low priority base only to get engaged by a larger force either by unfortunate timing like unscheduled training or intelligence lead ambush.
When you say they should have stolen the plans I agree. But stealing three walkers is more than enough to maybe use two of them. And reverse engineer the third one and produce their own.
Hey Eck! I recently watched your old versus video pitting Wookiees against Halo Brutes. This gave me an idea for another Star Wars versus episode: Wookiees vs. Lasats. The Wookiees would be armed with a bowcaster and sword each and the Lasats would have Bo-Rifles and possibly a side arm. What do you think?
I didn't understand this mission either. I mean, Kyle Katarn had already infiltrated the research base at this point while investigating the Dark Trooper project. Other than phirnk (?), I really didn't see the value of the research facility. It's not even really explained why the rebel commandos were there for in the first place.
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Yeah let's just be realistic this mission was horrible it was one of the biggest waste of times I've ever seen it was a garbage mission I think everyone hated it in look up code on how to skip it because let's just be honest it's probably 1 the most difficult annoying stupid repetitive missions as I Hey we sent it a special task force you know instead of taking something useful like a tie fighter and Imperial Walker anything not a steal the slowest moving smallest Imperial walkers that are basically walking tissue boxes
From what I gleaned, the commandos had their cover blown and were making a desperate break for safety with whatever limited resources they had on hand.
I also presumed that the alliance operated under a "no man left behind" strategy in contrast to the empire who deemed their troops as utterly expendable.
Finally, do you know if speeders register on radar or sensor equipment more than a starfighter would? A potential advantage for speeders could be that they're able to sneek in close to the mission area before making their presence known.
@@Antidragon-nl7by Actually The rebels did actually use strategies especially legends where they would leave people to die if they were going to Lose more resources to rescue them in fact there been more than one suicide missions were people agreed to be Left Behind if they'd had to and as for it using equipment on hand ya I agree but it still they could you stole a walk or something anything would have been better than those 3 slow moving target and finally snow speeders really don't go on the radar they don't have stealth when Built-in and is hardly know they're just civilians armed and have reinforced armor that's about it yes the tow cable does help but overall I think X wings and Y wings would been better
That level took me a few tries when I was younger to beat but I'm a dark souls player now so maybe I just like a challenge lol.
I'm kinda curious though, did the rebellion have a designated ground attack starfighter? Or was the ground attack role limited to air speeders?
@@Delvien Let make sense I would like to play dark souls myself but I would still never play at level Ever again and as your question yes the rebels did have ground vehicles and land assault craft but they weren't used it often and most of them were repurchased civilian ships with thicker armor and more guns
"The AT-PTs had been destroyed, I repeat the AT-PTs had been destroyed" words that scar my childhood.
So true, i hate this mission xD
Nothing could compare to the Sullust map.
"Return to base, Commander Skywalker. We'll discuss your..'tactics' in private."
@@strategicperson95 Seeker missiles. Seeker missiles everywhere...
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Nothing like a rage induced battle breakdown after you die seventy three times in Rogue Squadron.
Accurate
That’s an oddly specific number…
Rebels at fest: I destroyed an entire imperial installation that was heavily defended with the most useless ship credits could buy
Rebels attacking the unfinished first Death Star: ow no our lukerhulk and 500 xwings went boom
Rogue Squadron makes ALL the difference.
I always hated that attack, the rebels had to lose that battle obviously but making all the fighters just ignore the tie fighters and go for the deathstar was really dumb
It all depends on which side currently has the most important resource of all; the highly sought-after Plot Armor (TM).
@@sentrysapper45 Patent pending
I don't know, kinda sounds alot like *Imperial Propaganda* to me.
*Rebels destroy Imperial facility*
Imperial Propaganda: "Yeah well they're STUPID for doing that!"
This comment sounds a lot like rebel propaganda
You are under arrest for spreading rebel propaganda
My buddy Nom Carver might have something to say about that.
How dare you, you rebel scam?! IT'S TREASON THEN!
Prob coulda stolen the AT-AT but nah, the outdated patrol walkers will do
Probably didn't have a ship able to carry an AT-AT but you would think they would at least have stolen the AT-PTs from a location that isn't guarded by AT-ATs!
The way my mind always imagined it was that the commandos were there for another reason and simply used the AT-PTs to make their escape. You're there to make sure they survive. I know you said it would be better to leave them behind, but perhaps they accomplished their goal and were carrying secret Imperial plans. Or maybe they didn't want those commandos to be sacrificed. Or maybe the AT-PTs were going to be essential to a later operation. Tyderium wasn't really all that valuable on its own, but it was still a big effort to steal that. Or maybe in an upcoming mission, the Alliance needed to navigate tight, narrow spaces with steep slopes. For a mission like that, the AT-PT is second to none.
That was my thought, but I thought it was defecting scientists or something.
I mean, even if you make up another goal to justify the operation, their vehicle choice was still terrible.
@@chaotixthefox You take what you can get on an exfil.
i always been thinking WTH with this mission then i like "OH! they going to Reverse engineer AT-PT or Something" they are like APC, even there designs shows this. But however there are otherways they could had gotten this mission done but then again that depends on The contexts really.
Yeah, that's what I always assumed as a kid, too. I could swear the mission intro even says something to that effect.
I've still got AT-PTSD from this level
Abort mission the AT-PTs have been destroyed!
That's clever! Have a like.
Noice
Clever
Gold medal comment right here...
I watched this live and laughed my ass off at ecks rage but 3 little walkers from multiple at-at's is just absurd
I didn't have the N64 so I played this game just a few times at a friend's house. When they set me up with this mission I didn't catch the description properly, so the first thing I did was to fire on the AT-PTs themselves…
This reminds me of that edit of ROTJ where Chewie and the Ewoks hijack the AT-ST on Endor and start firing on the Rebels and the Ewoks and blow up Han & Leia outside the shield generator doors xD
I know right? Even if everything in this mission went 100% according to plan, they would still be using more resources than they would be gaining.
Welcome to the rebellion, where the only thing worse then our tactics, is our logistics! With your almost non-existant skills, Youll fit right in with many other unskilled soldiers!
It was thanks to Rex and Wolf's training that Rebel soldiers were competent, this is part of my Disney canon xD
@@xxvaltielxx1789 wouldn't help since stormtroopers were taught by Cody and other clone veterans that actually served many years more than Rex and Cody
@@laisphinto6372 and yet, the rebellion won, so yeah
Even way back then, I always felt being locked into the snowspeeder in every mission where an AT-AT happens to exist seemed...forced. It's just silly, both in game logic and in universe.
Its because its the only ship you have that can destroy an AT-AT. Not using it would set up up for failure.
@@gundamnexus-dk8yi But as Eck pointed out, the AT-AT wouldn't be able to stand up to an attack from a Y-Wing. Or, really, any other starfighter that had warhead launchers. The only reason the speeders were able to do it at Hoth was because Luke came up with that tripping attack using the tow cables, which still relies heavily on luck that the speeder won't be shot down during its predictable flight pattern while circling the AT-AT to wrap the cable around it. The X-Wings would have actually been much more useful at Hoth - fly out, take down the walkers with a torpedo or two, then escort the transports out under the protection of the ion cannon. Really, the Alliance just grabs ahold of the Idiot Ball whenever AT-ATs show up. it's like they deliberately choose THE absolute worst possible tactics for dealing with them, then wonder why their half-assed plan didn't work.
@@gundamnexus-dk8yi But that makes no sense. Throughout the rest of the game you're blapping turbolaser turrets left and right, leveling entire complexes with Y-wings, but walkers are immune to all that? Forced.
Don't get me started on the narrative shift from 'unorthodox desperation tactic' to 'just how you fight walkers, its a good thing the empire never thought to put wirecutteres on their legs despite dozens of embarrasing losses...'
It was pretty much video game law back then, even if lorewise the at-at could be killed by other things, they had somehow incorporate at-at and snowspeeder fights. in rogue-squadron I'm pretty sure they're invulnerable until toppled
“What were they thinking?”
Something along the lines of “This will be our obligatory rage-quit inducing level.” I swear, I used Gameshark to skip this series be until I figured out how to do it. Even then, it was hit-or-miss every time.
I thought the point of Fest wasn't to steal the AT-PTs, just that those were the only things the scientists they were rescuing could steal to run away with.
I never knew there was a Rogue Squadron game for N64, I just kept replaying the Hoth mission for the game with Dash (Shadows of the Empire)
Rogue Squadron is one of the most famous N64 games and one of the most famous star wars games ever. How did you not hear of it? Were you living under a rock?
Argh! THIS MISSION?
It took me ages to get those fragile, suicidal blaster magnets to the end of the mission.
The first time I actually succeeded, I had two left when the bombers came; I shot one down and it crashed ON one of the walkers!
Thanks for stirring up traumatic memories *shivers*
"When you reach your destination, you'll find an imperial research facility from which a team of rebel commandos are attempting to liberate a squad of AT-PTS. Their escape has become compromised, and we need your help to get them out of there. The speeders and tow cables will help you with any walker you may find. Good luck" the start of the most hated mission of my childhood
Nice nostalgia trip here
Kinda funny how so much of the games we loved as kids were actually super dumb in certain aspects but the gameplay itself was still so good that we didn't care
I have fond memories of this game but I seem to remember that AT-PTs that you had to protect in this Mission we're being piloted by Imperial scientists/engineers that work defecting. That could be why they sent you with just snowspeeders, because the mission was sprung on the alliance when they got the distress call and couldn't organize a better assault.
Why do the Rebels need tactics when they have plot armor
In case Disney arrives and strips your beloved protagonist of said plot armor to give it THE BESTEST EVAR Rey Palpatine?
@@generaljimmies3429 I've seen Star Wars Rebels. They still have plot armor, only worse. Also, faceless A-Wing pilots don't count.
Even though it was a difficult mission that made no sense, it is still one of my favorite level. This is likely because the odds are stacked against you and protecting all three the whole way is so rewarding. Anyways, I agree with all your points. I remember having similar thoughts even as a kid playing this. I still play this game, I love it too much. It's what really catapulted my Star Wars fandom.
@@tev2332 It was quite the challenge. I was young and I felt bad that someone died, so I wouldn't let myself progress until they all survived. haha. I was really into it
@@mythrimax The force is strong with this one. Did you ever manage to get gold?
Snake Plissken i got gold on all but the sullust level where you play as Y-wings in a volcano. Its too hard
That Battle of Fest mission was my wall for a while back when was a kid. When finally beat it, the other missions were no problem.
I always loved shooting the imperial troops as they scurried Around. They made funny little "aah" sounds when they got hit 🤣🤣🤣
But T47s are the best ship. Can't convince me otherwise
at aa platoon enters frame
Besides when you unlock all starfighters and airspeeders you notice only the T-47 only missions (and oddly enough Naboo starfighter) is mainly because it takes like hella lot of shots to blow up a non-tow cabeled AT-AT even with Bombs and torpedoes.
I can because a t-47 isn’t a ship
T-47? The USSR tank?
YelloMonky no T-47 as in the next one up after T-46
You're missing the picture, the battle was to humiliate the imperials to show how powerless they are against a small group of alliance soldiers. The fact that the rebels, outmanned and outgunned by a grand margin, manage to destroy majority of a imperial garrison on research station is a major moral shock against the empire equivalent to the destruction of the first Deathstar.
That explains Moff Seerdon rage in later levels!
"the AT-PTs have been destroyed i repeat the AT-PTs have been destroyed" still rings in my nightmares, along with "all employees proceed to the bottom platform" from reeident evil 2 and "all you had to do was follow the damn train CJ" from GTA San Andreas
Somehow the idea of a lucrehulk stuffed to the gills with X-wings sounds hilarious to me.
I was *furious* when, after failing this mission over and over and over again, I saw the cover of "Isard's Revenge" (1999) and realized that the Alliance could have just sent X-wings to take out the AT-ATs.
Of all the missions in Rogue Squadron, this is the one that stuck with me the longest. It was frustrating to a nine year old, demanding a lot of skill in little time. To this day, I can remember replaying it over and over, because AT-PTs were easily wiped out by the AT-ATs, and if you didn't rush to the first segment of the mission, the first AT-AT would wreck one of them before you had a chance to rescue it. I had no idea as a kid why three commandos were stealing AT-PTs and not something far more valuable like an AT-AT. I'm glad I'm not the only one who hated this level.
In Rogue Squadron if a mission has AT-ATs, you can't fly as anything other than Snowspeeders because it's basically impossible to destroy them without tripping them with tow cables. This makes sense on an internally consistent level as all missions with AT-ATs have their destruction as prerequisites to completion with the sole exception of Imperial Construction Yards. It has AT-ATs but you don't need to destroy them to win, yet still requires you to use Snowspeeders.
As for the AT-PTs themselves I always rationalized it as commandos just being on a mission, getting caught, and attempting to escape using the AT-PTs so it's more of a rescue mission of the men themselves, however admittedly the briefing, opening cutscene ("-attempting to liberate a squad of AT-PTs."), and comms chatter really imply the importance of the AT-PTs themselves so I'm not sure. It is baffling one would waste resources on three patrol walkers.
Fun fact: In Norwegian, "Fest" means "party"
Edit: As in, this fest is over
Festen er ferdig...
Same in Denmark.
It basically means that in English too. It's just shorthand for "festival." For example, a city might have a "Harbor Fest" which could be days celebrating boats, waterways, seafood, etc.
Trash awful tactics explain why that mission was a unique pain in the ass lol
@Dread StarZ Was that the mission where you are in a Y-wing and there are like 50 missile turrets? Yeah, I hated that level!
@@scottthewaterwarrior The damn single-shot blaster on the y-wing was truly pathetic. It's big and its slow, why not at least put a big as gun on it?
I listened to your outro the entire time on a 6 hour road trip and I never felt better in my life
I'm guessing Admiral Holdo came up with this plan... At least it's better than space horses on a Star Destroyer.
Tbf Eckhart in Rogue squadron takes forever to destroy an AT-AT in any other Starfighter other than the T-47.
Wouldn't it be nice if you were flying the t-47 to take out the walkers and maybe the rest of your squadron provided cover in a bunch of x-wings? Genius, I know
Hold up. It's actually possible to kill one without the tow cable?
Honestly I’ve also wondered this at Hoth...they definitely had X-Wings, and even if they were low on torpedos (and if they weren’t, unless ATAT’s have better armor then star destroyers torpedos should’ve made quick work of them)
Either way the x-wings seem like they would’ve been better...
Fun fact: "Fest" in Norwegian means "Party". XD
That and fest is short for festival lol
It also means party in swedish
@@drox3992 No surprise there. Swedish and Norwegian is quite identical after all.
@@TheTrytix hehehe. No..... Not going to argue but they are different. Bokmål is a mix of Danish and nynorsk. Let's not go there or I have to defend my pride being Swedish.
@@drox3992 Okay, listen here, buddy. Compared to English, Norwegian and Swedish are more closely related. That was what i meant.
I didn't mean to bring in Danish, because, yes, Danish may be a bit closer to Norwegian than Swedish.
But again, we can easily understand each other even if we speak our own language.
Even as a kid i thought there was something wrong with that mission, like how did those commandos even entered the facility?
I feel like the plans stolen from Fest were probably a part of Seerdon's plan to capture Thyferra (something that the Empire probably would've been hesitant to do officially because Thyferra is legally a neutral party and they could have their own bacta supplies cut off by trying to seize the Alliance's).
Thyferra wasn't officially neutral till after Endor IIRC.
I swear that loading in section tripped me up as a kid. For years I thought the snow speeder was capable of space flight, and always wondered why it was called a speeder but could fly in space.
I think they where looking to recreate the Hoth battle in someway. That's why they require you to play using the snow speeder. Adding a wing of Y wings in the second half of the level would have been smart. But it might have been a limitation of the engine at the time that kept them from doing just that.
I actually have been thinking of playing this recently. After reworking the lay out of my living room I ended up hooking my GC up and this was up there on games I really want to replay threw.
Been watching this channel for years, so happy I've found this video been trying to beat the Fest level for over a week now
It sure didn't help that, as a kid, I could _not_ for the life of me figure out the tow cable method
Ahh. So I wasn't the only one then, haha. Never got past the first mission with an AT-AT for that reason.
"we're going to send you into hell with airspeeders"
(everyone leaves the briefing)
"What did I say?"
Yeah in Isard's Revenge, Rogue Squadron take out at-at's with x-wing cannons. Sure by that point firepower has increased, but you have to imagine the cannons on x-wings at this period in history would still do meaningful damage... much less what a y-wing bomb would do. The mission was basically just an excuse to bust out snowspeeders because when else are you going to use them.
There were even screenshots of the game where X-Wings were combating the walkers at Fest, which meant that X-Wings were originally supposed to be in the mission.
That’s an N64 game? That’s real pretty looking!
@Dread StarZ They pushed the N64 and later the Gamecube to its limits.
For its time it was state of the art.
I was always under the impression that the commandos were there to steal research data and commendeered the AT-PTs as a means of escape when things went balls up. Which does make sense. The AT-ATs were probably more heavily guarded and harder to get to than the smaller walkers which also due to their smaller size and only having a crew of one probably made them easier to steal.
5:23
Fun Fact: If you shoot enoght times at the head of the AT-AT you will destroy it
(in game, and and im not saying when you take it out with the cable, im saying when it is still walking)
Loved seeing the Andrasta in the opening of the video. X-wing Alliance is one of my favorite games.
I remember playing this with a joystick and often crashing into the ground after the camera changes for the snowspeeder tow-cable maneuver.
I just got my gold medal for this level today (thanks to your live stream, I've been playing this game again after almost 20 years) This level might not be the hardest, but it is the most frustrating. Unless you play it PERFECTLY it all goes horribly wrong horribly quickly. I lost count of how many times I just ended up straffing the last two AT-PTs just to end the level quickly. Rinse and repeat. Rinse and repeat. RINSE AND...
The Fest mission is tough af but is still possible to beat saving all 3 AT-PTs. 1. You gotta be quick and focused, no exploring and only destroying the designated targets for the 1st part. 2. Hold down that A button for constant acceleration. 3. When destroying the tanks give yourself distance between yourself and the tanks with the break on and keep your aim steady and make your shots count. 4. Sometimes the 1st AT-AT might sometimes destroy 1 of the AT-PTs just abort the mission and start over if you want all 3 to survive.
As for how the Rebellion deploys snowspeeders and V-Wings into the vacuum of space, maybe they’re positioned in a way that they just fall to the planet like a meteorite, minus them actually crashing into the planet’s surface in question
Use of a harpoon and tow cable to take down an ATAT is a tactic you would expect to work once and only once. Literally all the ATAT pilot would need to do is stop moving until troopers dropped out the walker and cut the cables. And yet so many Star Wars games (not just Rogue Squadron) act like this is the only possible way of ever taking down an ATAT.
04:20 “Can’t operate in space” after just watching one exit out the hanger in the video
Haha not having a go at you, and I know that they can’t, but it’s just funny timing. Love ya content 👍🏼
You do have a point and some darker material has rebels doing a lot worse than leaving men to die but the majority of star wars media always has had the rebels be more idealistic and almost always go back for rescue ops or civilian extractions.
Fest was an absolute nightmare for me playing that as a young lad. I’m glad I wasn’t over reacting.
I saw that you included the essential guide to vehicles and vessels page on AT-PTs. I don’t even know how I still remember what this book looks like after so long
Star Wars games like to pretend that T-47s are the best (and sometimes even only) weapon against AT-ATs - that's why they're in the mission - but in reality, they're the worst thing you can throw at an AT-AT. This is why they had to use the harpoon tactic, after all. It was a desperate tactic.
I don't think I ever actually did complete that mission myself. It really was a hard one.
The only reason why the Snowspeeder used for that mission, as far as I can tell, is because in that game the AT-AT's are functionally invincible to your normal weapons and they can only be disabled by using the Tow Cable. And, there are several missions in this game aside from the famous Battle of Hoth where you must pilot a Snowspeeder, because in all of these there will be AT-ATs that you will have to deal with. This includes the.... Defection at Corellia and the raid on an Imperial TIE fighter and walker production facility.
I was obsessed with Rebel Assault 2 I think it was called. Friggin classics Eck
They don't call them rebel scum for nothing
T47 to sent out to protect old walkers.
Against atte, and the tie bomber. And other defense.
Explains why you die so much in that mission you’ll need a miracle to survive.
Random fact: captions sometimes when eckhartsladder say his name, captions says "Eck hearts slaughter"
the XR-85s from the EAW Thrawns Revenge mod give me PTSD everytime i see them
ive lost so many units to their death lasers of ultimate destruction
"WEDGE! An entire planet of Imperials is trying to kill like, 3 dude!"
"We gotta help them! What do we have?"
"Fucking tow cables my guy!"
Wedge, looking very concerned:
"God has abandoned these men, but WE. SHALL. NOT!"
Hey Ecks, I have my own star destroyer that I think is overall, very useful. I call it the Inferno-Class. It’s about 3 kilometers long, has about 500 point defense laser cannons all along the hull including some near the engines, 200 dual turbo lasers, 50 Quad turbo lasers, around 100 light ion cannons and 70 heavy ion cannons. Its bridge is among the superstructure, and I makes use of shield projectors in the trenches and does not have a hangar to make space for a secondary reactor. If you see this please tell me what you think.
Getting gold on this mission was a f*cking nightmare. You had to haul ass and hope that whatever walking pattern the AT PT's took and that the aim of the AT-AT was off just to have enough time to save them all. Then you had to stop those bombers from dropping a SINGLE bomb just to be on the safe side.
So this kinda like:
Allied Command: The Germans have a new variant of the Panzer IV, we're going to send the best pilots in the RAF to help some SOE agents steal them from a heavily fortified compound deep inside the Reich.
RAF: So what so special about these tanks?
AC: Their slightly longer than a regular Pz IV.
RAF: Okay.... We'll send some Mosquito's to soften up the ground defenses and keep the AA busy, then once SOE inserts we'll have a couple of Squadrons of Spitfires keep the Luftwaffe at, then once SOE's clear we'll follow up with some Lancasters to destroy the facility, sound good?
AC: Oh no, no your going to escort the tanks whilst every mildly annoyed German takes a shot at them
RAF.... at least tell me we'll be flying something that can take a hit, like a Typhoon, or a Mustang.
AC: No, you going to be in Gloster Gladiators.
Sopwith Camels
5:21 no y-wings required. T47s don't have lasers, they have blasters, that's why they are unable to get past an AT-AT's armor. An x-wing's lasers are more than capable of shredding the walkers, as shown in the movie Rogue One, as well as Isard's Revenge, and other novels (but i couldn't tell you which ones of the top of my head)
I remember all those years ago that level was a pain in the neck and you have to be spot on to get it right but easier on the PC version for some odd reason. I jumped back into the pilot seat last month and took me several goes to get a bronze star on this game.
i still feel the frustration til this very day.
Best way to do this mission is to immediately veer right and blow up the shield, fly over and tie the walker by it. Zoom over and tie the other walker on the path to the shuttle, and then hit the base if you have enough time before rogue squadron breaks the gate for you. You can completely ignore the walker that's attacking them originally, it will never have a proper angle on them and they'll get away with little to no scratches
Given how terrible the mission goal was, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out the mission itself was a cover for something more sinister that command wanted to keep secret from even their own men. Like the walkers themselves were laden with crates of spice and someone needed them to pay off his/her debts or fund the Alliance's efforts.
"Who cares if this makes no sense? We must acquire the cargo, no matter the risk."
"But sir... all we have available is a few snow speeders and..."
"Then deploy THEM! I--err, WE NEED THAT SPICE."
Good video. I thought the commandos had stolen intel and were just using the AT-PTs as getaway vehicles. That's not a great idea, but it makes more sense than what actually happened.
I always hated that mission. I was locked behind it for ages.
The snowspeeder is the only thing that can take out the ATAT in Rogue Squadron. They wanted a snowspeeder mission in each chapter. Hence Fest. Yes in reality the mission could have been handled differently, but this is done in game terms. Also I believe they were there for something else (It is a research station after all) and used the ATPT's to escape as they are the quickest walker. (At least in game.)
Thanks eck, you remeber me a old trauma from my childhood. I have the rogue squadron game and never, I repeat, NEVER, can pass these mission, these guys was a kind of suicide person but with a walker without any defense ir firepower. A walking target I suppose
Well, the game was made and released in '98, the first you know of them as being old clone wars equipment was several years later after episode 3 came out. Which was 2005. So up to that point you assumed that it was state of the art, brand new equipment. Least that's how I remember it.
"There's no ground in space" 😂
@Trey Stephens Planets, by definition, are most definitely not space :P
@Trey Stephens But that's like saying you can live in the street with home and warmth because those are in houses and houses are in the street 🤔
@Trey Stephens Near Earth, space is defined as the region starting 100 km above the surface. If you are on the ground, you're not in space.
@Trey Stephens I don't know what's so hard to understand. The "planet" includes its atmosphere, which reaches up into space. The ground of the planet is not in space, in the same way the core of the planet is not in the planet's atmosphere.
@Trey Stephens You could easily bring up the case of planets and moons with no atmosphere to point at regions of "space" where ground is very close and you could use repulsors, but you insist on doubling down with the wrong logical argument.
Fits the Rebell MO sadly,
I mean they approached the Walkers in Empire from the front and instead of bolstering their defenses with X-Wings and Y-Wings they sent them with the transports, who they were giving covering-fire anyway!)...not to mention going to a freaking Ice-Planet in the first place! Even a jungle-world makes more sense :(
Oh. THIS mission. I think best I ever got was a silver medal. There is so little room for a single mistake.
One thing that really bothered me, and made the mission much harder - the AT-PTs charge ahead like Leeroy Jenkins, never waiting for you to kill the AT-ATs. God, I hated this mission. I ended up using a hack to get around it - got gold medals legitimately on all the other levels.
What I think would have been cool would be a shuttle escort mission, have the engines get damaged or something so it has to fly slowly.
The reason for the use of T-47s is obvious from a gameplay perspective; the devs made AT-ATs invulnerable to all weapons except the tow cable maneuver. But yeah, from a lore perspective it makes no sense; other sources like the X-Wing novels clearly demonstrate that starfighters are capable of destroying AT-ATs with warheads like proton torpedoes.
As for the AT-PTs, that's a product of inconsistent lore. The game manual indicates that they're a hot new Imperial design, despite other sources stating their Clone Wars-era origin. I think the devs just wanted a cool looking "mini-walker" in the game, and they figured the AT-PT was obscure enough that most people wouldn't notice the discrepancy. My headcanon for the incident is that these particular AT-PTs were testbeds for some new experimental tech. The Alliance wanted what the walkers were carrying, not the walkers themselves.
Note that the same facility has research of concrete use to the Rebellion/ player, the seeker proton torpedo. The commandos should have gotten that! Thankfully, you can do it for them.
Two other things to consider in your arguments:
First is that you could reverse engineer the at-pt by stealing them. So your "steal the plans" is still essentially accomplished by this.
Second is... with the design being that old, there have to be other plans out there on the holonet. Meaning rebels could pretty much hack, black market purchase, or otherwise obtain the info to make their own at-pt's with much less risk.
So no, but actually yes to your argument.
This is like the Xen attacking Black Mesa only to grab 3 vending machines
Well I guess not every commander can be a genius of battle field tactics... one however could at least expect them to be competent and not use the strategy "Hay remember that time we were out gunned and almost slaughtered? lets knowingly use that plan!"
Anyway, I'll like to see more videos like this comparing what happens in games for the sake of game play vs what would actually be a sound plan. In particular in love to see this for my personal favorite star wars games being the psp games Battlefront: renegade and elite squadron.
Wouldn't be surprised if the T-47 had some limited maneuvering thrusters and were heat resistant enough to drop themselves into the atmosphere and control their descent until their repulsorlifts become operational. Would be especially cool as a kind of hotshot Alliance modification so that they could be deployed to the surface without a transport.
btw you can shoot the AT-ATs to death, I did once on Defection at Corellia (I failed the mission). I think you also get to bomb them on the second part of the razor mission in Rogue Squadron 2.
It's like having F-22s at your disposal but choosing a paraglider anyway.
For me it was the second game that had the most rage-inducing level. And guess what? Involved AT-PTs. The mission is right outside a downed Star Destroyer, it's all good until you have to use a Y-Wing to destroy a horde of those things coming out of the SD. But it's so hard to see them! I always had to wait til they were on the beach, but the transport you were defending was so fragile sometimes that was too late.
I think a great joke video would be a breakdown of the Buick vehicle from Rogue Squadron. Seeing this video reminded me of that glorious flying car.
From a risk perspective it would have made more sense if the were collecting the walkers for future incursions on more secure locations from a low priority base only to get engaged by a larger force either by unfortunate timing like unscheduled training or intelligence lead ambush.
When you say they should have stolen the plans I agree. But stealing three walkers is more than enough to maybe use two of them. And reverse engineer the third one and produce their own.
I love you and your videos sm easily my fav Star Wars UA-camr and most def one of my favs overall keep up the awesome content!!!
Hey Eck! I recently watched your old versus video pitting Wookiees against Halo Brutes. This gave me an idea for another Star Wars versus episode: Wookiees vs. Lasats. The Wookiees would be armed with a bowcaster and sword each and the Lasats would have Bo-Rifles and possibly a side arm. What do you think?
I didn't understand this mission either. I mean, Kyle Katarn had already infiltrated the research base at this point while investigating the Dark Trooper project. Other than phirnk (?), I really didn't see the value of the research facility. It's not even really explained why the rebel commandos were there for in the first place.
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