How to use the HP tuners RTD and TDN App Wengerd Performance

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  • @alexpope5327
    @alexpope5327 10 місяців тому

    Just ordered mine today. Can't wait to get the RTD device and get started once I get all my hardware installed :)

  • @freedom6919741
    @freedom6919741 11 місяців тому

    Mine has worked flawlessly so far. Thanks for the video and thanks for making my car run great.

  • @koolersl2
    @koolersl2 3 роки тому +12

    As always great info man, this should help a lot of people!

  • @edddiaz4202
    @edddiaz4202 2 роки тому +1

    Thankyou for what you do it's the blue car you did from Chicago I appreciate you

  • @shadow_5oh601
    @shadow_5oh601 2 роки тому +6

    Awesome content this is going to be extremely convenient compared to having to use a laptop

  • @duanebonney
    @duanebonney 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this video.
    Sooo much easier than carting a laptop around.

  • @elcochiii
    @elcochiii 2 роки тому +2

    Great info ,so its the same if you want to load your stock tune back on the vehicle? Lets say im taking my car to the dealer for any warranty or maintenance,i can load my stock tune right ?

  • @michaelpashos7320
    @michaelpashos7320 Рік тому

    I haven’t bought the tune yet. I was going to purchase it from market place. Is there anything I need to look for before buying this from this man. And after I purchase the device what would I have to do to tune my vehicle with the device and will it work for my car

  • @TheNy150
    @TheNy150 2 роки тому +1

    Great info. Thanks
    If I already have a tune flashed through laptop can I use the app to reflash the stock tune or it has to be done through laptop?

  • @Jamie-ww3yz
    @Jamie-ww3yz 2 дні тому

    Still do cam tune?

  • @LSX-zr8ng
    @LSX-zr8ng 10 місяців тому

    I emailed you earlier about the ess im about to order for my gen 3. I like the simplicity of this rtd3, but what can i use to watch all of my parameters etc. Like fueling/knock? Thanks in advance

  • @nyongtv6028
    @nyongtv6028 2 роки тому +2

    Can the app show you a reading of the ethanol content of your gasoline?

  • @ivandeleon5948
    @ivandeleon5948 2 роки тому +3

    Just bought this HP tune device through my local performance shop. They are tuning my car for 93/e85r. My question is this device a plug/play for me? Just want to be able to switch from 93 to 85 without any issues.
    Thank you

  • @andrewsoliz9654
    @andrewsoliz9654 Рік тому

    does this void any kind of warranty for example extended warranty.

  • @isaacthegreat2191
    @isaacthegreat2191 2 роки тому

    Nice video, any recommendations for remote tuning for Camaro ss 2018

  • @KiingBaboon
    @KiingBaboon Місяць тому +1

    what if my car was previously tuned and I don’t have the stock file ?

    • @TheVB-Stang
      @TheVB-Stang 8 днів тому

      You can buy a stock file on their site for $125.

  • @milaperegon2787
    @milaperegon2787 2 роки тому

    Very helpful video.. good job bro!

  • @J2A61
    @J2A61 Рік тому

    I have a mpvi 2 how do you Bluetooth the gauges???

  • @outdoorspeed5071
    @outdoorspeed5071 9 місяців тому

    Do credits come with tune or separate

  • @coyoterob2839
    @coyoterob2839 Рік тому

    Have u tried to revert your car to stock?? Does it work on the app?

  • @DLVRYMN
    @DLVRYMN Рік тому

    Excellent informative video

  • @dmndbiggestfan2605
    @dmndbiggestfan2605 Рік тому

    I have a question should these be left in car or should I only leave when in use I ask because I live in Florida and I’m afraid that summer heat might mess it up if I leave it in the car connected

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  Рік тому +1

      They do not need to be left in the car

    • @dmndbiggestfan2605
      @dmndbiggestfan2605 Рік тому

      @@Wengerdperformance ok thank you also do you have this same one and if so do you leave it in your car?

  • @Efboost91
    @Efboost91 8 місяців тому

    Do you have to have internet or will 5g work? Also I tried and of course the batter died 🤣 20 min is crazy on run engine off. It’ll go 1/1 then 2/2 and just get the spinning wheel forever. My internet is too far to hook up to. Any advice you can give??

  • @Meexhi5.0hhh
    @Meexhi5.0hhh 8 місяців тому

    What about 2015-17 ford ? Is it good for it ?

  • @mannyd5459
    @mannyd5459 9 днів тому

    How much dose this cost?

  • @Jnaszty559
    @Jnaszty559 Рік тому

    What would a stock tune do for my 10r80 ?

  • @jwm821
    @jwm821 8 місяців тому

    I cannot get a solid green light when I plug mine in, any help please.

  • @BadgerGT500
    @BadgerGT500 2 роки тому

    Very helpful bro! Thank you!

  • @Compa_isma
    @Compa_isma Рік тому

    Helpful video!👍🏻

  • @karl8895
    @karl8895 2 роки тому +1

    How would I go back to my stock tune?

  • @MarkChristiansen-b1m
    @MarkChristiansen-b1m Рік тому

    I just purchased the RTD through a dealer. And I cannot get my phone to pair with the HP tuner thru TDN help.

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  Рік тому

      You will need to contact your dealer. We only offer support to our customers

  • @EVOLHORSE
    @EVOLHORSE 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome info my guy ..

  • @Evolutionnick
    @Evolutionnick 2 роки тому +1

    How do you restore the stock tune back to the car with the RTD+?

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  2 роки тому

      Our customers have it located on their TDN account.
      If you are not our customer contact your tuner

  • @mansoursarkhoo196
    @mansoursarkhoo196 11 місяців тому

    Can we change the idle rpm and rev limit using the hptuner mpvi3 and phone ( with no laptop )?

  • @santosperez7704
    @santosperez7704 2 роки тому

    I already put reading how long they going sent you new tune?

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  2 роки тому

      We will NOT send you tunes for free.
      You MUST order one from our website or we will decline your request to join us via TDN. If you are not our customer do not attempt to join using our code

  • @my1dogbella
    @my1dogbella Рік тому

    I have a 2021 mustang gt, i have a cat back exhaust, k&n air filter and im going to install an 87mm throttle body. Will a 91-93 tune make a difference with just these mods? Its a daily driver just want a little more spunk to it

  • @mcgoofball5887
    @mcgoofball5887 8 місяців тому

    How long does it take for the custom tune, and also do i need my device to be plugged in to get the tune sent to me or can i have disconnected n wait because AZ is too dam hot to be in the car waiting

  • @joshpaschal17
    @joshpaschal17 2 роки тому

    I race a stock 04cavalier on dirt and wandering would this tuner work for my car? And if so are there tumes avail that are tailerd to mid-high end hp high rpms for an oval track set up? Thanx

  • @keepiton2carson
    @keepiton2carson Рік тому

    thank you so much bro

  • @jdmtake1
    @jdmtake1 Рік тому

    What does it mean if your mpvi 2 doesn’t show up at all on your iPhone

  • @Pistol755
    @Pistol755 Рік тому

    Does it show afr on phone while logging?

  • @lobbyrobby
    @lobbyrobby 2 роки тому

    I have the rtd+ for my 2020 mustang gt. I setup everything on my computer and also have the tdn app on my phone. I haven't pulled the stock file yet. I'm thinking about going with you for the tune. Ess supercharger kit. I'll be taking it to a shop to have them install the supercharger and headers. They will have the car on a dyno for tuning purposes. Should I wait and have them pull the stock file? How does this work as far as them loading a tune but yet me having access to everything on my computer? Should I have them download the app to their phone as I won't be around when tuning is being done?

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  2 роки тому +3

      I recommend doing a read and linking to us.
      That allows us to have your tune ready.
      When dropping it off you can load our base tune

    • @nasty5-oh893
      @nasty5-oh893 2 роки тому

      Before anything after install is done, especially with bigger injector you will need to upload base tune before you start your car with the new setup. For starters

    • @lobbyrobby
      @lobbyrobby 2 роки тому

      @@nasty5-oh893 👍 definitely will

  • @Boostf33n845
    @Boostf33n845 Рік тому

    Can you view gauges/parameters on your phone with app? If so how ?

    • @freedom6919741
      @freedom6919741 11 місяців тому

      Not able to do that. I have my old SCT that I use to monitor LT and ST fuel trims and knock and spark.

  • @hhhjikk8526
    @hhhjikk8526 2 роки тому

    When you purchase the rtd device from your website will it come preloaded with tunes already?

  • @johnnysgt350
    @johnnysgt350 2 роки тому

    when I buy the rtd device do I have to buy credits or just purchase a tune from you guys?

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  2 роки тому

      When buying the RTD from us it makes you choose credits as well so all you need besides that is the tune.
      Www.wengerdperformance.com

  • @DrewPWebos
    @DrewPWebos Рік тому

    How do you compare yourself to other well known Tuners? In particular kLtUmNcD Racing? 🤨

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  Рік тому +1

      We have many new customers coming from some of the top tuners in the country

    • @RSProduction18
      @RSProduction18 Рік тому +1

      My 2015 was tooned by kLtUmNcD on e85 and it was amazing but I been hearing some stuff on 6g and kLtUmNcD wont do a flex tune for me on my 2021. I also reached out to PBD but they said they have issues with NLS in their toone.... Wengerd said they can do Flex & NLS with their toone on my 2021 so im going with them.

    • @DrewPWebos
      @DrewPWebos Рік тому

      @@RSProduction18 Wengered looking very promising 👍👊 let us know how it goes.

    • @RSProduction18
      @RSProduction18 Рік тому +1

      ​@@DrewPWebos Tunes run strong, worth it over stock. No knock either, car pulls stronger in all rev ranges. NLS working fine too, would definitely recommend this tuner.

    • @DrewPWebos
      @DrewPWebos Рік тому

      @@RSProduction18 good to know 👍👊 def leaning towards him real soon.

  • @deerobinson8508
    @deerobinson8508 2 роки тому

    I’m waiting on a MPV12 to come in and I was wondering could that be used the same as the regular RTD device on TDN? thanks in advance

  • @crimson5.0
    @crimson5.0 4 місяці тому

    how long does it take to get the tune?

  • @kenlee117
    @kenlee117 2 роки тому

    So I'm about to switch from my sct to the Rtd I'm guessing all I need to do is make sure to upload my stock file to the car before using the rtd?

  • @milaperegon2787
    @milaperegon2787 2 роки тому

    Quick question do i need to buy credit to write a tune using RTD ? Universal credits will work?

  • @void7365
    @void7365 3 роки тому +1

    Is the name on the device just for branding purposes, or does every company have a RTD device that's only locked to their brand? Or can you use any RTD device for any company's tunes?

  • @mattbo2003
    @mattbo2003 Рік тому

    What does it mean when the RTD has a green flashing light and won’t flash the light for the BT?

    • @jwm821
      @jwm821 8 місяців тому

      I have the same problem

  • @xGR1MxREAPERx
    @xGR1MxREAPERx 2 роки тому

    How long can you data log at one time? Do you need to have it meet the whole time? I have to do a log with the revvingnlike you did but also some short pulls etc and of course I won’t have internet driving around lol.

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  2 роки тому

      That depends on many factors.
      Ask your tuner this question

    • @xGR1MxREAPERx
      @xGR1MxREAPERx 2 роки тому

      @@Wengerdperformance just did it on my phone through the HP tuner app. It was easy. Thx

  • @79stroker
    @79stroker 2 роки тому

    With the RTD can you configure gauges to watch on your phone?
    Hooking up an android box in the dash to screen mirror to the factory dash. Just wondering if I can mirror up gauges.
    Thanks

  • @Sparrow_Dynamic
    @Sparrow_Dynamic 2 роки тому

    How does they know what type of tune i want?

  • @jsstrawder
    @jsstrawder 2 роки тому

    Have you guys had any issues getting the app to datalog all the needed channels..?

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  2 роки тому +1

      You will need to contact your tuner snd he can send you a file to fix that

    • @jsstrawder
      @jsstrawder 2 роки тому

      @@Wengerdperformance hasn’t been able to yet.. lol. I have an RTD+ and wish I’d have just stayed X4.

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  2 роки тому +2

      @@jsstrawder I would get a tuner familiar with the RTDs

  • @franklin6085
    @franklin6085 Рік тому

    why does it blink like blue and red togther color when i have it and drive it? is that normal

  • @Rhino4513XX
    @Rhino4513XX Рік тому

    So I read my stock tune but when I look on the app it isn't green and just says restored? Did it do it? Do I need to read it again

  • @justinritter1069
    @justinritter1069 2 роки тому +1

    Mine read the file stored it on my phone but failed to upload it.

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  2 роки тому

      Contact your tuner. You are not our customer

    • @justinritter1069
      @justinritter1069 2 роки тому

      @@Wengerdperformance I know, I got it figured out

    • @ToppTenn.
      @ToppTenn. 2 роки тому

      @@justinritter1069 what did you have to do?

  • @Solargambling
    @Solargambling 2 роки тому

    Okay so I have a 2007 Pontiac g6, is there a way to request a specific tune? I’m trying to go for more of a crackle and pop tune

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  2 роки тому

      Yup just message your tuner

    • @Solargambling
      @Solargambling 2 роки тому

      @@Wengerdperformance sorry for your inconvenience but I’m kinda new to this and idk how to get a tuner 😂

  • @OwenWallace-g8c
    @OwenWallace-g8c Рік тому

    I’m having a lot of trouble figuring mine out, it keeps saying failed this failed that

  • @callmezix9762
    @callmezix9762 2 роки тому

    I got a tune here in Oklahoma and it sent the 91 tune i data logged it how long does it take for it to come back? I got a e85 tune aswell but it hasn’t poped up

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  2 роки тому

      That depends on who your tuner is.
      Only our customers get accepted to join us on TDN.
      If you are not a customer do not try amd join our TDN as we will decline your request

  • @xxlegitclipsxx4155
    @xxlegitclipsxx4155 Рік тому

    I’m trynna load a tune onto my car but it keeps saying exception in thread any idea what this means ?

  • @davidcrager2893
    @davidcrager2893 2 роки тому

    Why on your site there isnt 2011-2014 mustang gts ?

  • @jeremyralston9906
    @jeremyralston9906 2 роки тому

    @Boosted coyote I have a 2015 roush with 2.3 supercharger with a custom tune from Palm Beach dyno on a sct device. Do I need to load stock file tune before loading your tune on a TDN device?
    Thank you

  • @Jeremyf98
    @Jeremyf98 2 роки тому

    What if I have two tunes on my pc already how do sync them onto the app

  • @markuaw1
    @markuaw1 2 роки тому

    seems like it's not possible to read the car first if you're on a Roush tune, those can't be read can they ?

  • @ChristopherBlevins-tn6bb
    @ChristopherBlevins-tn6bb 7 місяців тому

    What happens if you don't have stock file?

  • @BIGISMALLZ58
    @BIGISMALLZ58 3 роки тому

    Do you think these will be offered for the 21 F150 5.0

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  3 роки тому

      Not sure on that. As long as they can be tuned via OBD2 I would assume so

  • @LuisRodriguez-uv6pm
    @LuisRodriguez-uv6pm Рік тому

    What happens if tunes are already loaded. Everything has been set up and etc. Then by accident you click read vehicle and then canceled it right away after it starts Downloading files. Would it mess up the current tunes or file ?

  • @Gibson966
    @Gibson966 2 роки тому

    With the RTD+ do I need Wi-Fi to switch tunes?

    • @Skunkd
      @Skunkd Рік тому

      you need decent cellular service or Wi-Fi

  • @edwardsjohnson5387
    @edwardsjohnson5387 2 роки тому

    Do you know a reputable tuner I can hire?

  • @andrewgarcia4379
    @andrewgarcia4379 Рік тому

    What if my TDN status says not found?

  • @StratoSoulz
    @StratoSoulz 6 місяців тому

    i’m currently trying to tune my 2019 gt and everytime i try to read or sync files it is stuck on a screen saying “Sending file 1 of 1 to MPVI3” and is just stuck there. Does anyone know a fix to this?

  • @Evolutionnick
    @Evolutionnick 2 роки тому

    How would i send my stock tune if my stock tune is still on my old ngauge device ?

    • @Skunkd
      @Skunkd Рік тому

      Load the stock tune back onto the car then read it with the RTD+ in TDN app.

  • @James-Orr
    @James-Orr 2 роки тому

    What tuner options do you have for a 21 GT500? A friend of mine is pulling off a ported blower, pump booster, and injectors off another 21 GT500 from a trade in at the dealer he works at. I tried to read the file but it only read part of it and engine information is not there so I assume it is locked.
    I have a MPVI2 plus if he needs to buy a tune from you when he is ready. I was going to copy and paste the tunes since it was simple bolts swap but that did not work out haha.

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  2 роки тому

      Shoot me a email. WengerdTuning@gmail.com
      We tune those all the time.
      Copy and paste on a setup like this is a bad idea

  • @ricardo3857
    @ricardo3857 3 роки тому

    after buying the device with credits would i need to buy the tune files separately ?

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  3 роки тому +1

      Yes.
      All available on the website
      Www.wengerdperformance.com

  • @billlear5607
    @billlear5607 3 роки тому

    Where do I go to get a price and to order one.

  • @AYETHATSREESE
    @AYETHATSREESE 2 роки тому

    Does this work with iOS 16? I hear it doesn’t

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  2 роки тому

      Hp Tuners is working on the update for iOS 16 fix

    • @AYETHATSREESE
      @AYETHATSREESE 2 роки тому

      @@Wengerdperformance would It work on a Samsung galaxy for now ?

  • @venoms5506
    @venoms5506 3 роки тому

    U gotta start uploading again

  • @pavochon
    @pavochon 2 роки тому +1

    For a 2019 GT Premium, can you provide the same tune twice, one with burbles (pref in Track/Sport only) and one with no burbles?

  • @Jnaszty559
    @Jnaszty559 9 місяців тому

    I’m now wengerd tuned

  • @koyotekev5082
    @koyotekev5082 2 роки тому +1

    i read my cars file successfully but it can’t upload it to the server. anyone experience this?

    • @ToppTenn.
      @ToppTenn. 2 роки тому

      Going through the same thing🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @koyotekev5082
      @koyotekev5082 2 роки тому +1

      @@ToppTenn. update your phone and delete the app and download it again, fixed it for me

  • @booombyybyy
    @booombyybyy 3 роки тому

    What if I already got a tune from you but I use my PC, How would I be able to see my synced files through the TDN app? Do I just need to resync my RTD

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  3 роки тому

      Load the stock tune with your laptop.
      Then read it back out with the RTD and tdn so it saves it as a stock.
      Then we can add the tunes to the app

    • @booombyybyy
      @booombyybyy 3 роки тому

      @@Wengerdperformance my car is on your e85 tune. Would that cause cause any issues if upload the stock tune

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  3 роки тому +3

      @@booombyybyy No upload the stock tune.
      Then read out the stock using the RTD and TDN app.
      When read out we add the tunes on the app and you can reload your e85 tune and you will be good to go

  • @supreme100s3
    @supreme100s3 2 роки тому

    Where did you get the invite code and can I use this ??

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  2 роки тому

      We will not accept your join request unless you purchased a tune from Wengerd performance

  • @adrianochee1592
    @adrianochee1592 Рік тому

    So we don’t need a laptop??

    • @DJPiezo
      @DJPiezo 2 місяці тому

      No you really don’t anymore

  • @joewhetstone4775
    @joewhetstone4775 Рік тому

    I cannot get this thing to work. Everytime I go to write the tune it says detecting engine then says exception in task thread and stops.

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  Рік тому

      You need to contact your tuner.
      I do not see you in our list of customers.
      We declined your request to join our TDN network as you need to be linking to your tuner

  • @SantanaGTv
    @SantanaGTv 2 роки тому +1

    My rtd does not want to connect to my phone I don’t know why

    • @SantanaGTv
      @SantanaGTv 2 роки тому +1

      I hold the button until it starts flashing , and the phone says it does not find the rtd

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  2 роки тому

      @@SantanaGTv Who is your tuner?

    • @SantanaGTv
      @SantanaGTv 2 роки тому

      @@Wengerdperformance have not tuned the car yet

    • @SantanaGTv
      @SantanaGTv 2 роки тому +1

      @@Wengerdperformance bought the rtd and was just trying to get the app going but was not able to , rtd flashes and the phone says it’s looking for a device but it says device not found at the end

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  2 роки тому +1

      @@SantanaGTv Contact the sellers you bought from

  • @p.d.kennels
    @p.d.kennels 3 роки тому

    Ok I have purchased my device from you all. I got the 93 octane tune.. how many credits do I need to have the tcm revised for firmer shifts. I’m old school but I’m gonna figure this out…

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  3 роки тому +1

      No credits for a revision.
      Email WengerdTuning@gmail.com

  • @mannyomega713
    @mannyomega713 2 роки тому +1

    i want to get tuned by you guys got texas speed catless headers and pmas intake i want 93 tune how much horsepower should i expect

  • @youngrios
    @youngrios 2 роки тому

    I have a 2014 mustang gt. I've been trying for over 2 hours to pair the device all to get Bluetooth discovery error whats going on someone please help

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  2 роки тому

      Contact your tuner.

    • @youngrios
      @youngrios 2 роки тому

      @@Wengerdperformance my tuner Lund..is telling me to contact HP Tuners

    • @youngrios
      @youngrios 2 роки тому

      @@Wengerdperformance I hold the BT button until the blue light starts flashing. Then I try to pair. I don't know what I'm doing wrong

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  2 роки тому

      We do not provide Support for Lund customers

  • @RA-zk4gg
    @RA-zk4gg 2 роки тому

    Good info man!!!👍

  • @noah5076
    @noah5076 Рік тому

    Where do I find my invite code?

    • @Wengerdperformance
      @Wengerdperformance  Рік тому

      Only our customers get our Invite code

    • @noah5076
      @noah5076 Рік тому

      I got my invite code but when I try to read the vehicle( 2016 5.0 f150) it says you may need to use VCM Editor for this vehicle what does that mean?

  • @pooppoop9653
    @pooppoop9653 3 роки тому

    Data integrity failed... what does that mean?

  • @miguelalcantara5544
    @miguelalcantara5544 Рік тому +1

    bruh my car turned off how do i keep it on for that long

  • @kong_5oh163
    @kong_5oh163 2 роки тому

    Super convenient

  • @larryhensch2280
    @larryhensch2280 3 роки тому

    I'm on board 👍

  • @thatguysayz
    @thatguysayz 3 роки тому

    👍

  • @d3et1roi3t
    @d3et1roi3t 2 роки тому

    Anyone have a "writer response: x7F negative response code" error when trying to write the tune? Waiting on HP Tuners support but would like to figure this out asap. MVPI3 & TDN

    • @tonyvicente5181
      @tonyvicente5181 Рік тому

      I have the same issue and now my car won’t start

    • @d3et1roi3t
      @d3et1roi3t Рік тому

      @@tonyvicente5181 Ive had nothing but problems trying to load / read tunes. Big headache. I know HP Tuners gave a updated firmware and it actually worked but now my car has a fueling issue.. so no idea.

    • @tonyvicente5181
      @tonyvicente5181 Рік тому

      @@d3et1roi3t tell me about it I couldn’t even send my stock tune to the company on TDN I hope it works out for us

    • @d3et1roi3t
      @d3et1roi3t Рік тому

      @@tonyvicente5181 sure missing that ngauge lol

    • @mackjames09
      @mackjames09 Рік тому

      What tune company are yall using and have yall had any resolution to this issue yet?

  • @Dale-ko9kc
    @Dale-ko9kc 2 роки тому +1

    This is track stuff, way to much for a street anything. I just wanted to tell you that trying it again is not buy forming.