I have thought involuntary care is needed for the addicts , the regular people and the swamped medical system . Very tired of society getting the brunt of this disaster of addiction . I also believe the trafficking of hard drugs needs to be exponentially harder even draconian . Have some guts society . This mess is damaging our health care , policing , youth ,focus and on. They need to be institutionalized so society can move beyond junkies parking their junk wherever they choose .
On the one hand they say addicts are not in control because "they can't quit on their own"... So how are we supposed to believe them when they tell us that we need their consent to put them in treatment? By their own definition they're not of sound mind in the first place. That's kind of the reason why they take drugs in the first place. If they want to then say that addicts DO IN FACT have control over their addiction, then why treat them as poor poor victims? If an addict has the legal power to consent or not, then they are fully responsible for the crimes they commit and should be sent to jail like everyone else. You can't have it both ways, you can't say they're involuntary users while saying that they need to consent to rehabilitation. Stop gaslighting the taxpayers
Stuff it under the Security Act and you can do AnYTHING you want to. Remember the work camps for the Million Man protest to Ottawa in the dirty thirties???
It will have limited results, heroine will be the only success story. But supplying the problem will be worse. Stopping the supply stops the addiction. If you can’t find it or get it. You won’t use it. Aggressive policing and high school education is severely required. Talk to experienced recovered people who understand. Almost all inexperienced people don’t understand.
The war on Drugs was a sham from the begining and Drugs have won. We found out the same thing with Alcohol all them years ago: Regulate the supply to have a healthy population. Have you ever seen what drinking mouthwash, aftershave. or the like does do a persons ability to function? The poison out there is the same. Give them proper drugs and they will behave properly, the last 80 yrs of DTES shows that (yes they did smack in the 40's by the hundreds down there)
Instead of telling us what won’t work, give us a plan that will keep everyone safe!!!!!!
Thanks Mo. More conversations like this are needed.
100% right way to treat this. "Safe consumption" is still active addiction and not a solution.
What I don't like about it and so many other "entitlement" programs is it rewards without responsibility.
I have thought involuntary care is needed for the addicts , the regular people and the swamped medical system . Very tired of society getting the brunt of this disaster of addiction . I also believe the trafficking of hard drugs needs to be exponentially harder even draconian . Have some guts society . This mess is damaging our health care , policing , youth ,focus and on. They need to be institutionalized so society can move beyond junkies parking their junk wherever they choose .
Tip toeing around, yapping about these people, who cause huge problems for the rest of the community is not enough. We want our cities back.
On the one hand they say addicts are not in control because "they can't quit on their own"... So how are we supposed to believe them when they tell us that we need their consent to put them in treatment? By their own definition they're not of sound mind in the first place. That's kind of the reason why they take drugs in the first place.
If they want to then say that addicts DO IN FACT have control over their addiction, then why treat them as poor poor victims? If an addict has the legal power to consent or not, then they are fully responsible for the crimes they commit and should be sent to jail like everyone else.
You can't have it both ways, you can't say they're involuntary users while saying that they need to consent to rehabilitation.
Stop gaslighting the taxpayers
Will the courts allow it all? I don’t think so…
Stuff it under the Security Act and you can do AnYTHING you want to. Remember the work camps for the Million Man protest to Ottawa in the dirty thirties???
It will have limited results, heroine will be the only success story. But supplying the problem will be worse.
Stopping the supply stops the addiction. If you can’t find it or get it. You won’t use it. Aggressive policing and high school education is severely required.
Talk to experienced recovered people who understand. Almost all inexperienced people don’t understand.
The war on Drugs was a sham from the begining and Drugs have won. We found out the same thing with Alcohol all them years ago: Regulate the supply to have a healthy population. Have you ever seen what drinking mouthwash, aftershave. or the like does do a persons ability to function? The poison out there is the same. Give them proper drugs and they will behave properly, the last 80 yrs of DTES shows that (yes they did smack in the 40's by the hundreds down there)
Addicts are, first and foremost, selfish. Secondly, vulnerable. They simply switch to a drug that IS available.
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