Trying a Duesenberg for the First Time | Starplayer TV Phonic USA Venetian White Review + Demo
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I love how extra critical trog is of every guitar that’s not a Gibson
What do you expect from a Gibson cheerleader and fanboy?
And by the way, that's a beautiful guitar.
Mmm, my take is he usually tells it like it is. Jmo though
I figure he just expects more from companies that aren't Gibson. Gibson is already known for their QC issues.
I’d like to see more of everything , but it usually is always Gibson. Sadly.
Factual and critical are different beasts.
I put a Duesenberg trem on my SG because it fits the standard bridge holes. It’s a nice simple mod that I dig, and it’s simple to restore my guitar back to original specs, though I care a lot more about playing than collecting.
My “regular” star player has an arched back as well as front…it is sooooo well made. Got it while in UK so maybe from DE but not a single QC issue. Amazing guitar and the trem system is crazy subtle and stable,
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I have owned seven of these beautiful guitars. They are worth every dime. Incredible vibe, tone, and feel. If you are considering one, go for it. The Joe Walsh Alliance is one of the best guitars I ever owned and kick myself for selling it.
Tony Hill... Do you still own any of these?
Where does the line form, I mean, to kick you. I know how you feel.
Thx for that.
I had bookmarked that model. Are all the necks the same profile? Or do thydiffer like PRS.
For example i have 5 Solar guitars- all six string models various shapes but all are 1.x models and all the necks are the same.
And for me ? The perfect neck and so if they a new model like they just have with the X, I know exactly what neck I’m getting
Thanks for that, I love semi acoustics, I have a small collection of Gretch, but now my next obsession will have a big D on it! Oh wait, that sounds a bit weird....
I always wanted to Check one out
But no one around Detroit carries them .
Do they have basses would be the next question.
Definitely tell it is a thin neck
Art Deco great
Two things i would add. You don’t need a roller bridge because it move a little back and forth when using the arm, so it stays better in tune. When changing strings you can put them inside the tuner from above until they come up underneath so that the end of the string won’t hurt you. I love my phonic !
@@The_troglys_guitar_show1 WOW ! WHAT ABOUT ME ?
Seems to be a scam.
I really like how many "sets of three" they are able to fit into the guitar. The logo of course, then the pickguard and the headstock, output jack, the two "windows" on the tailpiece with three bars in each and the butt of it, the three stripes for the fretmarkers, the three lines of the metal piece holding the pickguard, the steps on the trussrod cover, the tuning pegs, three knobs, even the bridge studs! Those are all I've noticed in the video at least. To really phone it in they could have made the 12th sidedot be three dots and even go for 23 frets lol.
they missed a trick with the case keys though...but yes really cool.
I actually really impressed with the sounds that is getting! Blew me away a bit
Very cool guitar! Duesenberg does make some sharp looking guitars. So cool to see one demo'd on your show! Looking forward to part 2!
This must break the record for the amount of branding on a single guitar - looks awesome, very fancy!! Plus I love the tones, p90 in the neck really brings a great clear tone to the middle and OOP setting. I might have to have a look at their offerings.
Joe Walsh was the first player I saw using a Duesey. They are GORGEOUS!
Can't forget the great Johnny Depp had a Signature Duesenberg.
There seem to be some grey area around Duesenberg, some of their expensive are made in Korea while having the price of it should be made in Germany.
For that price it's super sus that there isn't a stamp/sticker saying where the instrument was made.
A lot of the bits and workmanship on the guitar looks like import to me too..
yep that's what i don't like about this brand... they make you pay a lot of money for a guitar mainly done in Asia. They make good guitar there, but it's not worth the asking price (and i'm not the kind of guy to pay 3500USD for any guitar at all.)
The bodies are built in Croatia in a Duesenberg factory there. Not an Asian product at all. Once the bodies are completed, they are shipped to the Duesenberg factory in Germany for final assembly.
Great review of this brand. Very interesting to learn about a Duesenberg, its build and tonal characteristics.
Wow what a fantastic guitar. Absolutely beautiful and sounds pretty damn good too. Thanks for the new owner for getting Austin to feature this
I've always loved the looks of Dusenbergs, but could never justify paying for one.
Yeah I owned a 1300$ Rivolta and I started nitpicking everything.
I don’t play more than a serious hobby. Yet, 3800$ that’s hard to justify playing in my bedroom.
Same with Magnatone Amps, the builds are superior to others but I just can’t say yes
Duesenberg’s are a lot like Gretsch guitars in so far as they have a really distinctive sound that is associated with certain styles of music and therefore a ready market for their instruments. Plus, they’re always well made.
The blue mosaic Mother-of-Pearl finish is insane! 0:42 Thanx for the video, loved it 💙
Yes! Like Zematis
@@davidpaul6656 Love those!
They had one in a kind of sea foam green that was even more beautiful!
Is the weird price because their prices are actually in Euros and they just get converted to dollars?
Seems like a very well made and thought out guitar. Not my style of guitar, but again, cleaning up those small QC issues will make it top notch. From "Stray Cat Strut" to "Roundabout." Nice!
Duesenberg are amazing. My number 1 is a doozy and beats the heck out of everything else I have
I’d heard of this brand because Jason Isbell used to play them quite a bit. Though these days he seems to gravitate more towards vintage Les Pauls and Telecasters, with his current #1 guitar being a ‘59 burst called “Red Eye” that previously belonged to Ed King of Lynyrd Skynyrd.
I found out duesenberg existed when I saw a local bands lead guitarist playing a blue sparkle starplayer TV. I went to there website and was blown away by some of the guitars and this one was actually one of my favorites. I hope to own on someday!!
Really enjoyed watching this presentation of the TV Phonic...while holding and strumming mine! Thankful that I don't have any of the finish issues noted. I have never played a guitar that felt so perfect to me, and the tuning stability is unmatched. Great range of tones as shown in the video. To anyone who has the means, find one and try it out. Worth every one of the odd-numbered pennies they are asking.
Great to see a Duesenberg here! I bought a Cherry Burst Starplayer Rebound a couple of years ago. It came with 2 Mini-Buckers but I ordered a P90 from Duesenberg for the neck - it's that combination on the middle setting I love for clean stuff. Mine came with 10 - 52 gauge which I have stayed with (I have 10 - 46 on my other guitars) and the slightly weightier low end has led me into 'riffing' a lot more - sorta makes sense with the overall vibe and sound of the guitar - fun!
Always good stuff Trogly, thanks for your hard work getting these videos posted. Re: stringing a Bigsby. They can be a PITA but it's easy to keep the ball end in place if you shove a rubber door wedge under it.
I own several Duesys and one of them is the Starplayer TV Outlaw....I love all of them and especially their playability. Their quality is extremely consistent, so great to be ordered online..
Gotta hold the 'Dueses' responsible for the craftmanship. I've seen just as bad with Gibson. The paint goofs definitely should've never left the QC bench. The pearl binding in the F holes is stunning! The Dues tuners are great to the point that you won't get stabbed by the end of the string when cleaning. I have a Bigsby with a spoiler (a life saver) so this trem is fabulous. So impressed with the pup tones, especially the neck pup...........Thank you, Austin, for this great demo & spec check!
What does poor QC at any other company have to do with QC at D? Frankly, Gibson is not such a high bar to be compared to. Epiphone is better...
@goodcopbadcop9872 I just mentioned Gibson because that's what Austin mostly reviews. I do agree that Epiphone's craftsmanship has caught up with Gibson. I have 3 Epi Les Pauls & 1 Gibson Les Paul.
@@kevone08 I've seen poor QC and craftsmanship from both.
Bought one of these a couple years back....chambered 49er. Excellent instrument. Solid construction, stable trem, and beefy pickups...only complaints are the weight and the price.
As a long time viewer I have to say… one if your best episodes imo. Thank you!
Really surprised by how many tiny flaws you found, my Duesenberg is almost flawless and it definitely doesn't have those paint issues.
Great documentation!
Is yours noisy? I know this "P90" is technically a single coil but having just got mine today, it's way too noisy w/60 cycle hum. Especially in the OOP position (one position away from the neck)
No, I mainly play humbuckers, but also have another P90 equipped guitar. No, the Duesy is not loud at all.
I have several really nice solid body’s but decided I needed a nice hollow body and I wanted something different. I was basically searching for the right high end Gretsch but then I ran into an orange Duesenberg Starplayer TV Deluxe. It’s an absolutely terrific guitar. It plays as well or better than anything, stays in tune, looks great, sounds fine, and the smaller body is better for me than an ES Gibson. I love it.
Been watching for over a year, and i know you are primarily a collector, but your playing has improved so much since I first subscribed. Love your content, keep it up!
The pot brand is Göldo, it's a German distributor of various guitar parts and tools, some of them self-designed. The name of the founder (Dieter Gölsdorf is on the back side of the trussrod cover). The company claims to be worldwide first selling DIY-kits for guitars and basses. Some parts (if not all of them) for the Duesenberg guitars are their own design. And frankly speaking, that Duesenberg tremolo system is the best vintage tremolo I've ever played. In Germany this guitar costs about 2800 Euros.
I love my Duesenberg Fullerton! Very expressive sounding guitar. Beautiful clean tones through Fender amps but also great rock tones through Marshall. Check out Tom Bukovac playing Barracuda with Anne Wilson on his signature model 👍🔥
Thanks for the video.
I've always appreciated the Duesenbergs , they are beautiful guitars, though I was not fond of the racing stripe paint job on the Mike Campbell model , man the one you reviewed sounds GREAT !.....Thanks Trog ! keep'm comin' !!
Impressive. I can see why Nashville studio guys like it. The sounds will cover both the need of a Gibson or Gretsch. Taking it and a Tele to a session would have you covered. The cool thing about the overall sounds as they are full, all useable and very clear, articulate and tight.
The bridge actually moves when you move the trem bar. Eliminating the need for roller bridge. It also the keeps the strings the same length when using the trem where a roller changes their length slightly. according to Duesenberg. My favorite guitar.
Four months ago I bought a Starplayer TV. About a month ago, I started to fall in love with it. I had a Les Paul Memphis semi hollow body once for nearly a year and while that guitar was different, it sounded just as good. Sadly, I couldn't afford it and the owner took it back. While the Duesenburg isn't the same, it has enough in common to keep me very, very happy. I can't seem to make a single sound out of this thing that isn't really cool, just like the Gibson. Also, my Duesenburg could be the ugliest guitar in the world and I'd still be thrilled. The fact that it's gorgeous is just icing on the cake. This guitar really, really delivers.
These are superb guitars (I have a couple). And finally, someone else in the world has now heard of 椎名 林檎 , she's an incredible artist and I've been following her since the late '90s - and her band (東京事変) since they formed back in 2004 - check 'em out. She even recorded some music written by the late Burt Bacharach...
I am stoked to see a Duesenberg on the show, thanks for the review!
The plasters (band-aids) reminded me of a guitar I got fairly recently which also had an odd gift in the box: a kazoo. Kind of fun.
A lot of artists use Duesenberg in the studio…. Chris Cornell loved ‘em!
You just convinced me NOT to buy one👍
Cornell playing them is what got me to buy one. And they are killer guitars.
For that price, there should be no nearly falling out screws or crappy trim paint, who do they think they are, Gibson?
Mr Trogly. Austin. I’ve paused this at 1:44.
I have the black version in a wish list on Reverb and Thomann.
I’ll comment later if needed but WOW it’s stunning.
Greetings from NZ 😎🎸🤘
I've been curious about Duesenberg's! Great vid
Tom Boukavac has a signature model called the sessionman.. great reviews on those.
Great Episode..would love to see more starplayers...especially the emerald green tiled one ! they are beautiful...but out of my price range sadly
Great review trogly. I’m so glad that you were to do this because you show us stuff on your workbench that we wouldn’t normally get to see.
I remember that Ibanez Pia tear down you did which was extremely valuable to me coz I have the Sun Dew Gold Pia and of your channel I know what to do should i need to.
This Starplayer ? Beautiful and they another model called the TV+ which has a piezo pickup.
That’s the one I want.
One day 😂
Greetings from NZ 😎🎸🤘
I've owned this guitar for over a year now, and it's a phenomenal guitar.
Good looking guitar, case candy looks fantastic.
Love the looks of the guitar! Really like the bridge pickup. Would really like to see a few more of the Duesenbergs.
I was impressed by the variety of tones from the pickups. The differences are really noticeable. It’s a bit flash, and Art Deco styling isn’t to my taste, but it definitely makes a statement. The trem system seems an improvement over a Bigsby (plus, you can remove the bar if desired). Unlike most Gibsons, I can see why these cost what they do. How about one with a nice natural maple top with tortoise shell binding and pick guard?
I had the les Paul trem 2 system and it’s a subtle bar but it’s just cool to look at. I’m tempted to buy one for my Gretsch because I live in Maine and two music repair shops install them.
Nice demo. Thanks for the thorough look at this lovely instrument. I know the name but never heard it like this. Thanks.
From what I've read, the Duesenbergs were made in the same factory that makes the higher-end Peerless brand of Korean Jazz Guitars until Duesey secured their "own facility" in China. Peerless did its own take on the Duesey with its Retromatic series, which, while not as ornate, did feature some very cool art-deco appointments and upscale components (bone nut, medium-jumbo frets, roller bridge, VERY Duesey-style Stetsbar trem, etc) as well as some really tasty Alnico II humbuckers designed by English-fella Matt Gleeson of Monty’s Pickups. They also feature a VERY Duesenbergish style metal "P" logo on the headstock, as well as a similar pickup and tone selector system. They failed pretty spectacularly at their initial pricing ($1600!) but are a sleeper hit at the current $400-$600 they currently list for on the 'verb). It's a very nice guitar with excellent QC, so if you're in the market for something LIKE this but don't have the cash, this is one that could scratch the itch!
James Reilly pretty cool thanks for the heads up on these! 👍
They are made/assembled in Germany, with their electronics coming from either Japan or Korea, they don't have a china factory
All wrong.
Their parts are 100% Duesey designed, made and QC. And they have a Kroatian factory, setup, managed and run by Duesenberg themselvws, doing the body work basics, until finishing and intermediate QC. Then shipped to Germany for final assembly. Look up their extensive company vid in the tube.
A company 100% focused on their own, non copied, Duesey sound, design and players quality. I play them beside owned US made Gibby, Fender and PRS stuff. Their in the PRS and Gibby master private build stuff quality range, for fractions of the price.
Only gotta love the lush 50s Duesey designs. Some think over the top, I love them to death.😊😅😂❤
I really like these guitars. If I was going to pay $4k for a guitar I would build my own or contact Highline Guitars.
Thanks for the Duesenberg review!
Just picked up a Duesenberg Trem for my Eastwood Baritone. Great video for this guitar... 🐺
Good review! I've always been intrigued by Duesenbergs. Am I wrong in thinking the regular Starplayer has an arched back as well, not a flat back like the phonic?
I've owned a Duesenberg Starplayer TV Deluxe once and, without trying to be a downer, I was very disappointed by it. There were a lot of small QC issues here and there which wouldn't have been a problem if it wasn't for the price of it and the fact that the guitar, contrarily to a lot of things I read online, would not stay in tune. I've had a luthier look at it twice and he filed the nut properly (it wasn't from the factory) and did everything he could and it wouldn't stay in tune. The finish also felt very thick and plasticky, not at all comfortable on the neck, very sticky. You could also see that the cnc cut way to large the holes for the inlays so there was a lot of glue showing between the inlay and the rosewood.
Also another big issue that I have with Duesenberg guitars is that they kinda try and sell it to you as a German made guitar whereas the actual woodworking part of the guitar is done overseas (the same korean factory that does Reverend, from what I understand) and part of the hardware is Japanese made. The guitar is finished, assembled and setup in Germany or California. Notice that in the guitar it says "Germany" everywhere but nowhere does it say "Made in". The sticker is only for a trademark which has nothing to do with the country of manufacture.
This is not an issue in of itself, many great guitars come from Korea and Japan. The issue is they do this to cut down on the price but they sell you the guitar as a premium "Boutique" German product. I have played and owned many guitars and, to me, Duesenbergs are good 2400$ but here (Canada) they sell for 3900$ which is way overpriced for what it is sadly. I sold it, got a used PRS with the money and never looked back.
Yes ! They look and sound high end, but they don’t feel so when played.
Last I knew Dusenberg also made a signature model for Mike Campbell. I'd argue that he's more legendary than a girl from Japan, all due respect.
I saw Dave Grohl playing one of these with Foo Fighters and also saw Chris Cornell using a black one with Soundgarden, didn't know the brand back then I had to investigate a little. So sad they're very expensive they really look and sound great live
I have a Starplayer TV Blue Sparkle and the same Phonic you are reviewing. They are great guitars.
Gretsch now uses string through Bigsby's on many of their new guitars. My new rosewood tenny has one!
Gretsch Japan makes better ones than the original Brooklyn factory. I've had several early to late 60's models and they're barely a notch above Harmony of the era.
My ‘17 falcon has a string thru bigsby on it
I love when you do different brands!
I think kerfing thin wood joints is a must.😊
Thank you very much for the update, nice Axe !!
I assume that the price is like that because it's converted from Euro.
Göldo is a German parts manufacturer btw. They are the company behind Duesenberg.
I like that the pearl binding isn't the typical white, silvery, color if you will but more of an aged-looking, smokey, golden, color that matches the other gold appointments that are on the guitar. Which in turn kinda promotes those sorta vintage-style vibes the guitar expresses in its appearance. Cool guitar for sure.
Love the inlays
I am admittedly a big Duesy simp, but for 4 grand, those finish imperfections won't fly. Not sure if that's a USA specific thing or not.
this is a amazing sounding guitar that ring man its so good weird fact time there was a car made in the deco art period that was called a Duesenberg it was like this guitar once you seen one you just cant un see it it was gorgeous some folks might say its to flashy but speaking for myself i was a instant fanboy the Duesenberg car is featured on jay leno"s show thank to the buyer for sharing the new found treasure!
I can’t believe I’ve commented 3 times on the one video.
Your playing demo and tear down sold it for me.
I had planned to buy the the new Solar X but will have to do that later this year
For the record, I bought a Duesenberg late 2022 and the authorized dealer that I got it from brand new did take my offer of a sizable discount (almost $800) so I'm not sure where that info about auth. dealers not being able to adjust pricing came from but my experience tells me otherwise. Great looking and sounding guitars. The binding all the way around on mine is quite flawed though (tv fullerton white). From a distance it looks great but up close if you really look, it's pretty all over the place. Otherwise a fantastic piece though.
There is one decoration part missing. On the trem should be a black oval inlay with a D in it.
I have never seen a Duesenberg in such a "bad" condition (at least in germany).
I have the exact same model and love it.
I have owned Gibsons fenders Ibanez Jackson you name it but by far the best quality guitar I have ever owned is my Duesenberg Starplayer TV well worth the money and outclasses anything else I’ve owned
I think it’s pretty dang sharp!! Very impressive clear crisp tones!! I don’t think you’re being overly knit-picky at all about the trim and paint issues Austin. IMHO a $3600 guitar shouldn’t have ANY fit and finish issues. My Les Paul Classic was $1800 used and I haven’t found a blemish on it as far as factory mishaps are concerned.
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THANKS!! 👍🤠👍
I’ve been waiting to see a good review of one of these, glad they’re in the us now, every one of the phonic models I saw for sale was in Europe
Nice!! Was hoping you would review one!
Kudos for kicking it off with Stray Cats. Brian Setzer is one of my favorite guitarists.
Love Your Review On this Guitar.
I own multiple LPs but I’m always picking up my Star Player. Guitar is a precision instrument. German guitar that’s like driving a BMW.
Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam has played one for years. As well as Mike Campbell who has his own signature model from Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Caught your comment on strings there, on the CC I use slinky tops heavy bottoms.
my local guitar shop has these and they are top quality
These are killer guitars! I "only" have the solidbody "special" with a trem fitted later. Awesome tones, use it for jazz. You must have got a "monday" model, mine absolutely flawless!
Duesenbergs are beautiful...they've been on my wish list for a long time. And German craftsmanship has been and still is, above par. They take great pride in most everything, and it shows. The stepping designs are art deco and the radiator tremolo, tec. is also deco.
Except that there made in Korea
You are right. But they are not all made in Korea. Impressive is that every little piece comes out of the Düsenberg factory. And I love their design. Somestime I will also own one.
They are all made by Mirr Music in Korea. Same factory that makes Reverend, Italia and Rosenow guitars. You won’t find “Made in Germany” on any guitar, label, paperwork or website. Seems to me if they were made there it would be emblazoned everywhere.
@markatkinson6839 It simply not true.
Their not Korea, but the body work is Kroatia made. A EU based, Duesenberg owned, built, managed and run Duesey factory making the guitars until finishing and interim QC. Assembly and final QC Germany.
Look up their vid and see for yourself.
I believe you, but German craftsmanship is excellent whether the Duesenberg is made in Germany, Korea or Croation. I just assumed it was German made from the name. Thanks for letting me know.@@MrRFasters
Gretsch guitars now can come with a string thru Bigsby. My Player's edition anniversary has it. Sooooo glad.
Duesenberg Starplayers are great. The tones are versatile, with Fender scale neck, an humbucker for heavier rock and a sweet, sweet P90 on the neck. The tremolo is much more usable than a bigsby because the bridge moves slightly, and it stays in tune perfectly. A great guitar. It's a shame they don't make Nitro versions, but some colors are great (I don't like the one in the video, but it's just me).
I want the Tom Bukavac signature guitar. I’ve heard the tremolo system is extremely smooth and never goes out of tune. With German engineering you can never go wrong. They are pricey though. And yes, that headstock paint edge was a little disappointing. Thanks for the review!! I’ll now watch it.
I saw him in concert in Nashville recently. Buykavac played his Les Paul FAR more than he played his Duesenberg--Just for the record. Full disclosure it is a real 1958 Les Paul--but still played it more than his Duesenberg.
Almost a home run, but for the neck profile. I had 2 Duesy: a Starplayer TV and a Senior 52. The latter is a D shaped neck, rolled on the edges, very comfy. The SPTV had to go cause I can't play thin necks. I regretted it, as it was a very fine guitar. Duesy's are very high quality guitars with a great tone.
Ooo, Roundabout! I never learned how to play that one all the way thru, but we all tried to learn the beginning part...
I liked the binding inlay around the f hole. This was not too overboard on criticism trogly. You’re awesome.
Love my 18 yr old Doozy Starplayer Pearl Ice.
I’ve got a Deusenberg Star Player TV “ICE PEARL” which has a complete Mosaic Mother of Pearl face & matching headstock. P90 in the neck & a Humbucker in the bridge. One 1️⃣ exceptional added bonus is that my Deusenberg was PLEK’d at the factory. The first guitar I got out of the box and was ready to play. No adjustments needed! The step up was spectacular.
Btw: I enjoy seeing the axes 🪓 🎸 🪓
😎✌🏻❤️⚡️💙☀️🌈🎶🎶🎶…may the music never stop …
I have a Starplayer TV Phonic that was plek'd. Just like the one in this video. The setup wasn't bad but doesn't hold a candle to my cheap Yamaha Revstar Element which wasn't plek'd. Love the mosaic design on yours
Like it. Makes me want a Dangelico
Duesenberg also has one of my favorite guitarist’s (Mike Campbell) signature guitars
I freaking love duesenbergs man it feels like a tank! Try the paloma, it's already plekd fresh from the factory and the swtiches feels so snappy and solid
There's a blues/rock singer/guitarist out of New Orleans named Eric Johanson. He rocked a couple of Duesenbergs when I saw him open for Kingfish. If you really want to see these guitars put to the test then go check him out.
@7:44min the pot is branded Göldo. That is the parts/hardware brand of the same guy that founded Duesenberg, Atze Gölsdorf. I.e., you'll find Göldo parts retailed by Thomann
Thanks for letting us check out your new guitar enjoy 👏🎸
Hey Trogly will you do a review of the Gretsch Malcolm Young?