Looking at it from the historical aspect: no. It's the first tubular steel roller coaster... ever. The granddaddy of every steel coaster in existence. Every coaster today owes it to that ride. And seeing that original track go away, while probably better as a ride, would see the loss of something greater than just a ride. I understand the sentiment, but being a coaster history nerd I really want it to stay.
Haunted Mansion? Dude, I’m with you, it is my favorite ride in any park… I think I would want them to completely tent it and rebuild the heck out of… only thing that could not change is the mansion itself, upon further thought… most of the ride is in the outer warehouse, so they could do a tear down/rebuild.
You hit the nail on the head. Current Disney should not be trusted to fix or update any rides you love. Bottom line is all that matters, and too many of the best imagineers left, shows what you need to know. Need new CEO and others, those with a creative minx.
Current CEO isn't the problem. The Board of Directors is. You need to clean Disney out of all the Iger people before you can successfully recentre the company and focus it again on creativity instead of being a tool for the political games and aspirations of a former CEO.
You're kind of missing a key point. Some rides do need to be retired eventually. Wear and Tear takes its toll over time. Some lower stress systems can be easily maintained and kept updated and operational for the foreseeable future. The Haunted Mansions for example. But some stuff does face decision points. And I know somebody deeply loves every single ride. But eventually they face the choice of major overhaul vs retheme vs tear down and build something new. And a lot of the oldest classic rides were not built originally with repair and renovation baked in. How much gnashing of teeth would you hear among Disneyland fans if they announced tomorrow that they were closing Autopia to build a West Coast Tron Lightcycle?
The CEO and the boards both need to go. the Matterhorn cars compared to the old ones are horrible same with space mountain. You have to have a mountain of money just to go then you have to buy genie Plus if you want really ride anything the pixie dust is almost gone I know I won't go back with my family
You all do know Disney doesn’t own any Disney parks outside of the United States. they license the rights to the Disney name and let the other companies do what they in the parks
The issue with tearing down and rebuilding anything within Disneyland is zoning laws. Matterhorn was built when zoning laws were more laxed, so they were able to build the mountain as we have it now. Tearing it down could make it impossible to rebuild it under current laws and in turn, make it impossible for Disney to put something there in its place beyond a short dark ride since they'd be unable to build a new mountain like ride there and would instead have to do a lot of changes if they'd even have a hope of rebuilding it. This may also be why the tracks aren't being replaced, because again, zoning laws make it harder to do that.
What's special about it though? I mean I get it, the now residents of Anaheim may have different rules, but it's really no different than a roller coaster at Knotts, Six Flags, or any other amusement park in the area is it? That said, if they don't replace the Matterhorn I'd be fine with it, nostalgia can be a horribly convenient excuse to keep things around.
@@Mike__B What makes it more complicated is the coaster within the enclosed structure. It's not impossible. Just would require a lot of permitting and inspections and regulations etc. They might be able to slap down the proven designs from Expedition Everest and get relatively easy approval from local governments, or they may need to reinvent the wheel for them. But California remains a nightmare to build anything new.
@Alejandro Yeah I don't "frequent" the park because I'm not a local nor do I have an annual pass that allows me the freedom to observing the sight lines as part of my visit. I care about the experience, and as it stands the experience of the Matterhorn is just not good. It's painful, it's bump, it absolutely feels like a 60+ year old roller coaster that is badly in need of refurbishment/replacement. Now I really don't care what happens to it as long as something does happen to it. Gut the interior and redo all the track for all I care to make a smoother ride. Turn it into a big dark ride type experience similar to the dome at Epcot. Or level the whole thing and call it part of the Tomorrowland expansion since it really doesn't fit in any land. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you can't view Disneyland from an architecture's view point. I'm just not sure that's really big on most visitor's minds while in the park.
@@Mike__B it was already decided Tomorrowland will actually be shrinking with the Matterhorn and part of the land going to Fantasyland expansion since the largest footprint in the land is Autotopia and The Subs. Between the area taken from Tomorrowland and the theater Fantasyland will get a new attraction and a sitdown restaurant. The only things slated to remain in Tomorrowland is the Monorail, Spacemountain, and the Disneyland Railroad Station when they remodel the land.
Honestly, the Matterhorn scares me from a structural standpoint. It's been through 60+ years of earthquakes, including a six-pointer in '94 that collapsed freeway bridges and pancaked apartment buildings. I grew up seeing cracks in walls all over Orange County from that quake, and I can only imagine the damage the Matterhorn has taken, with a bone-rattling coaster running all day on top of whatever the quakes have done. Nobody remembers the movie it was based on anymore (yes, the Matterhorn is IP, and yes, the book was better). Find Harold the Yeti a new home before somebody else dies on that thing.
For me, personally, the worst example of this is the 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea ride in Florida. They drained it, let it sit empty for a few years, then filled the whole thing with dirt and paved it over and turned it into "The Little Mermaid Encounter." I also really miss the skycars in Florida. They took them out, too, but kept the terminals. (One of them is a video arcade now).
For me, the real questions are “In 40 years, which rides are so quintessential Disney that they ABSOLUTELY NEED to exist in one form or another. Which need to exist in their legacy (original) form to retain their historical significance?” I’m curious, does Disney have a “legacy program” for the parks and their rides? Something that inducts rides or features of each park into something like a historical landmark that requires preservation? This is something I’d rally behind…
Matterhorn rebuild would be so amazing but it's such a hard call to make, can't imagine that icon of the park being gone for a few years! But we need to rip off the band aid and have one that will last for many years to come! ☺️
When I think of dead rides I'd like to see returned, it's always Journey into Inner Space. I'm tempted by the potential of modern special effects, although the old school props were a big charm on the original. As long as it's an Omnimover and has that sweet giant microscope in the lobby I'd be happy.
Yesssssss! The ride really wouldn’t change much, although with AntMan being under the Disney umbrella, it would likely get a strange narrative twist when we enter Quantum Foam… but yes… they have do the miniaturized riders effect with some sort of updated movement to make the mini-riders more realistic. For the giant eye, the could use an extreme closeup of a real eye on something like an 8K screen… the possibilities boggle
You mean Adventures Through Inner Space? I'd love to see what they could do with it now. The problem is twofold: I could see it being an IP and a thrill ride now. I don't think Modern Disney would make it an omnimover attraction.
I can still see the giant eyeball with lashes flapping in the microscope eyepiece. So cool. Damn kids ruined everything. The Antman thing is a great idea!
after riding the matterhorn my mom had to emergency reschedule her gall bladder surgery from the next week to the next day because the ride just caused THAT much damage
The Matterhorn did not hurt to ride until they replaced the bob sleds. You used to lay back in the old sleds with two people in them. When they crammed 4 people in the sleds and made you sit upright is when it started hurting everyone.
@@nimblehealer199 actually they had a structural engineer come in and check out the track and the land for options and told him only things that will be staying are Monorail, Train Station, and Spacemountain. He told them the tracks are unrepairable and to bulldoze the entire land and rebuild what they want to keep. So they had thought of bringing them back and may be planning to relocate them if they were told the existing track wasn't worth keeping. The old Inoventions show building has the same footprint of Spacemountain so they could easily remove the track and rebuild it there with a upgraded show building after they figure out how to deal with the subs show building since it's over built like a bomb shelter so removal won't be a easy task.
I think that instead of replacing the Matterhorn I think they should just replace the track with a better one. Maybe it could have some new turns and drops. I really don't want them to get rid of the Matterhorn Bobsleds, it just needs a bit of fixing.
With all the Pirate tales out there I always thought that Disney should make a different “tale” or pirates experience at each park. I know the cheap thing is to cookie cutter it but it would be so cool to have a totally different pirates story being told at each of the parks
I have to admit the beginning cracked me up so much 😂 I’ve been saying we need a new Tomorrowland here in CA. Autopia needs to go. The big round building is just sitting there. People Mover is just an empty track.
I'd be ok if they rebuilt the matterhorn--as long as it still had the same general size and spirit of the current one and still two tracks. And..... you like the current version of Test Track!? I'm shook.
Was test track ever that fun like the inside portions are cool cause it’s like all neon and stuff but the outside is literally just like going on the freeway
I wish they’d rebuild Matterhorn, with a larger footprint, taking up a chunk of the submarine area. I’d love to see them use the rest of the space for 7 Dwarves Mine Train in Disneyland too. 😊
Space Mountain at the Magic Kingdom needs a full rebuild. It's been in a limbo state for so long. When I went on it last year it honestly scared me. I didn't feel like I was on a ride - I felt like I was on a machine which could kill me.
As a former Test Track CM… That whole track needs to be torn up. Most dangerous ride I’ve worked on by far, and evacuations are a nightmare. It’s way too open and easy for guests to slip away and get into restricted zones, the radios barely work, and getting people across the tracks on those rickety little removable bridges gave me a heart attack every time. Plus the backstage layout is insanely confusing and inefficient.
I miss the people mover, but I am shocked that the Magic Kingdom Splash Mountain didn't make this list. You dunk Pirates, but at least their animatronics work. Last I went half of them didn't work, and looked like fnaf about to happen in a park.
That is because all Splash Mountains are being rethemed to Princess and the Frog since Splash Mountains is based off the old Song of The South film that Disney been trying to get people to forget was ever made once the politically correct protesters got involved.
The biggest cost in almost anything is building and replacing. What many people don’t understand is if you do proper maintenance (to anything) you’ll push back the end of life and the big cost of replacement. If they did maintenance like I remember when I was a kid things would last longer. And if they combined maintenance with updates they would spend less overall and give greater satisfaction to the guest. Okay off my soapbox. Thanks for the video.
I would love to see Matterhorn get an upgrade. Preferably while Bob Gurr is still with us and can help keep some of those nostalgic touches on the rebuilt one.
I personally want them to keep my number one favorite attraction the same as long as possible the Hollywood Tower of Terror. I rode it for the first time 3 years ago and fell in love with how the theming was integrated into the ride and building. This is a ride I would describe as perfect and fun.
There is nothing like going into the main lobby of the hotel, watching the pre show in the library, walking threw the boiler room, and listening to the great ride audio while riding it in any park.
If they do rebuild the Matterhorn it'd be nice to preserve the original track layout as best they can, given the ride's landmark status as *the first* steel coaster using the tubular-rail techniques that would dominate the industry into the 21st century. (Steel coasters just seem to be starting to move beyond tubular rails today, thanks to computer-aided design and manufacturing. But for many years, they were what made twisty layouts with elements beyond the repertoire of traditional wooden coasters possible, and most roller coasters built today still have them.)
Rebuild the Matterhorn. Maybe use the old Gummi Glen boat ride and *sigh* the submarines and at least part of Autopia if it needs a bigger footprint. Seeing the Matterhorn from the freeway after being on the road for hours is a special part of the Disneyland experience. It would crush me to lose that.
That space along with the Fantasyland Theater is already going to be getting used for a new attraction and sit-down restaurant with Matterhorn being 100% Fantasyland when they build New Tomorrowland.
A great idea for Disneyland’s Tomorrow Land for the abandoned People Mover show building. They should use it as a Tomorrow Land museum, something like the museum in Great Moments with Mr Lincoln on Main Street, and put pieces of old and abandoned rides and vehicles from over the years on display as a way for guests to see the changes in the park over the years while paying homage to those old attractions. It would be a nice little nostalgia trip for old and new Disney fans. Imagine seeing the People Mover vehicles or Sky Buckets on display!
I don’t think we’ll see a rebuild of Space Mountain at the Magic Kingdom. I feel that once TRON is up and running they’ll close down SM and do an extensive refurbishment. Definitely a new track…but does that mean two tracks remain or will they completely rebuild the ride experience with one long brand new ride inside? The shell of the building is still great and iconic that could benefit from a more modern light package with LEDs. And, for that matter a brand new lighting and effects package inside as well.
You are one of the most creative UA-camrs out there. Thanks for always giving us new angles on our favorite place. And yes, Matterhorn is a tough one for Disneyland. Besides the Castle, it is the signature visual for the Park. But would love to see them really go all out with the swiss theme actually. More Swiss themed restaurants around the base and throughout the ride. The Yeti is fine but I think they could make it a friendly Yeti. Perhaps add more of a Swiss mountain guide theme with an audio track, guided tour with partial dark ride. Like the Matterhorn deserts so expand on that with pretzels, and other foods to put you in the mood. Perhaps a raises beer garden with German food too. These things could be done now and not have to tear down the horn. The audio guided tour would be an easy add on as well as a new friendly Yeti. Perhaps even more sounds of a storm as you go around the mountain for added effect.
Its not shocking that Reflections hasn't gone anywhere....It costs Disney 15 billion per year to run their parks, resorts, etc. and lost billions over the course of 2020-2021 from their parks, resorts, movies etc from shut downs...I would bet the only reason Tron is getting finished is because the ride was already partially built when Covid hit.
Disney parks and resorts may have taken a hit but their other sources of income i.e. streaming services gained more than the losses and most parks and resorts weren't closed for that entire year, they had parks opening back up with safety protocols in place within a year, shops outside the parks open, and online shopping with store pick-ups.
Realistically Disney is likely to keep up with the patchwork and the abandoning but I think the best course of action is re-theme and!or rebuild if people love the attraction that's there enough it's rebuild if people want something new re-theme
Think they are just waiting on the city to make a decision on the Disneyland Forward project since they already said Tomorrowland is their next big project and if they don't get the green light on the expansion then we could seen some of those attractions moving into New Tomorrowland, Tomorrowland is already going to be shrinking to give Fantasyland more space while Matterhorn gets absorbed into Fantasyland all while guests aren't supposed to notice the land shrinking since it will be taken from the wasted space Autotopia and Subs currently use which is the majority of the land already. Monorail, Spacemountain and Disneyland Railroad Station are the only things remaining in New Tomorrowland so that opens a lot of space to build new attractions in the remodeling of the land. The current layout getting to and from the Railroad and Monorail needed to be redone anyway so merging the entrance path to both in a wider pathway could allow both to remain open during construction of new Tomorrowland since you could start with the ramp from Monorail going straight to the Train Station then have guests take the Monorail into the park, board the train to go to other parts of the park then take the train back to Tomorrowland to board the Monorail to leave as a alternate to the front gates. With new ToonTown opening next year which is more of a face lift than a remodeling which they could probably have done this year but want to wait till Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway is ready before presenting.
For Anaheim’s Matterhorn problem, they should just fix the track and remake the older outer shell, Matterhorn deserves better especially for how many years it’s been there.
Why don't they give the Matterhorn the RMC conversion treatment with completely brand new track and trains? RMC is the company behind Twisted Colossus at SFMM.
I bet Tarzan's Treehouse is being re-themed as Mama Odie's treehouse from The Princess and the Frog, to go along with Tiana's Place and the Splash Mountain re-theme. The Matterhorn just needs shocks under all of the bobsleds; making the them sort of float above their wheels.
Yeah they could tear it down rebuild the skyway and the matterhorn, close down autotopia to put all the supplies, tear down the people mover, it'd be a huge step to getting tomorrowland and everything back on track. I really hate that Tokyo is able to do this and disneyland is just floundering.
Honestly, I think that the bulk of Disneyland's Tomorrowland should be leveled. Space Mountain is great as-is and Star Tours is fine, but everything else is old, busted, and preventing a much-needed transformation. And I'm all for an updated People Mover, but it should be rebuilt from the ground up to fit the revised footprint of the new land. Matterhorn is a fan favorite, but it's also the source of many physical therapy sessions. I'd like to see it redesigned and rebuilt in conjunction with an updated Tomorrowland footprint.
I just have to wonder if the whole "Matterhorn is painful" thing is more for taller folk? I've never felt like it hurt me to go on it. My wife and I went last year and rode it several times and never got sore or sick or anything. I'm not denying that it being painful is a thing, I've just never experienced it. Now Rockin Rollercoaster? That's a ride that is painful and really does need a lot of TLC (not to mention a retheme).
Matterhorn needs work to get it to where everyone can ride it without being in pain. It's one of those fixes that can be a simple as changing the wheels on the bobsleds to ones that work better to smooth out the ride for riders.
Finally got over to the west coast to visit Disneyland for the first time and I'll tell you right now, after riding the Matterhorn once, my shoulder will never be the same 😅🥲
i need to know where you got the sleepy hollow shirt. 🥺💕 this is probably my favorite video of yours right now. i love following the life and death of rides and attractions. there was no secret password for the end card this time but i watched all the way through owo
I wish they wouldn't leave the rides abandoned. Unlike a regular theme park, these attractions are special. It's like leaving a dead body laying around.
2006ish, WDW CMs were told that space mountain in magic kingdom was going to be redone. But the only way that disney would redo it, is to tear it down, rebuild it, and make it two seats side by side on the track. Then the recession hit and it’s become a thing of management saying they’ll only redo it when they can tear it down but they won’t because it’s so beloved that they can’t ruin people’s once in a lifetime vacations to MK by shutting it down. Basically the same excuse they’ve been giving for years as to why we can’t get the overlay for nightmare in haunted mansion
All they need to do is change the sleds 🛷 to have a spring mechanism to smooth out the rough track. Imagine seven dwarfs mine train concept integrated in similar fashion.
A bit weird, bc Space Mountain is the second longest queue over there, after BatB? I was just there 3 weeks ago and even 40 minutes before closing it was a mega long crowd
I'm so old, I remember when seeing the top of the Matterhorn from the 5 Fwy meant you were THERE! And sweetie, you think your knees hurt now? They made huge strides changing the vehicles after the late 90s. (2012--wow!) Soooo much better. Yes, sometimes parts of plaster do fall off, and it's down a lot. I think they need to rebuild as much of it as they can to make it as safe as they can. Our mountain is unique. I hate to hear about submarines going, but maybe I could see sacrificing it for the space to build a new mountain. Can't Elsa move to the Alps?
Or…hear me out. Since the Jungle Cruise movie did so well, Trader’s Sam’s treehouse? It’s both IP and traditional Disney and it won’t age poorly like Swiss Family Robinson or Tarzan . Plus Trader Sam in the movie lived in the trees with her tribe so narratively it fits.
I could see them making it to where they can change the IP in 1 night to promote any film that they want to promote and then since it's next to Pirates throw up a skull and crossbones and tie it into Pritates when they don't have a film to promote with a sign at the exit encouraging people to check out Tom Sawyer Island and meet the Disney Pirates.
Swiss Family Robinson will be returning. And to the comment above, no it didn't age poorly. Swiss Family Robinson will be welcomed back with open arms by fans.
Since the Sky Buckets were removed that a Matterhorn rebuild now has some extra space available for track and/or show scenes within the mountain. It's been, what, 30 years since the Sky Buckets were closed?
I think that the classics should be preserved. I want younger people to experience the classics, however the moves that Disney will choose to make moving forward are well above my pay-grade
In the matterhorns case, because of how it was built- it really would need to be torn down to the ground. Heart line. Something not fully understood at the time by anyone. Bob Gurr gave us the modern coaster. Legand. Option c- we move it and rebuild it. Move it as it's an achievement of mountainous scale which should be saved somehow and rebuild it- because it's dangerous as hell. I have no doubt some rich fan would be happy to put it on their property and would pay enough for it to rebuild a new one.
Maybe a Rebuilt Everest, now that Flight of Passage exists and draws crowds to the opposite side of the park(and maybe something with Dinoland before that to just fix... darn near *everything* with Dinoland USA); put the pause on Expedition Everest's tours, tear down the mountain at least around Disco Yeti if they can't do anywhere else, and repour the foundation for him. Do it for the 20th anniversery in 4 years or the 30th or 40th just something. Please.
The only thing they should keep in dinoland is DINOSAUR, get rid of Chester and Hester's and replace that with something that fits with the dino institute
@@potato1094 yeah Dinosaur is why I said "darn near everything" it's too good a ride with a simple enough track layout that it can stay. Maybe retheme the land around it to be focused on extinct animal species like the Brazilian blue macaw and Tasmanian Tiger and stuff to keep with Animal Kingdom's "Conservation of Animals for future generations" theme as the bittersweet message of "Here's what happens when we fail in our ambitions; these magnificent creatures now only existing in depictions."
@@stormhawkdude keep dinosaur the same and add a new trail with animals that have come back from the edge of extinction or something like that could be cool too
I say we keep the Autopia ride. Then have Honda(current sponsor) update it with cars that run on Hydrogen Power. By giving guests a free test drive on Autopia. Honda could use it to promote and sell their own hydrogen powered vehicles.
An attraction can always be refurbished, if it’s falling apart is because it is not being maintained properly, not because of how old it is. By the way, I’m glad they kept the subs, the attraction itself is awful, but I love the lagoon, it looks amazing at the park, it wouldn’t be the same without it.
Since Space Mountain and Big Thunder in California got full track replacements, I do think they could replace the track in the Matterhorn so it's not as bumpy.
The issue could also come down to what wheels they are using on the bobsleds, there are multiple cases of roller coasters having 1 type of wheel designed for a ride and then when the ride opens they find out environmental factors change how the ride vehicle moves along the track and the park has to change wheels until they find 1 that will work for them and Disney doesn't seem like they understand how that works anymore. It's just like the trams not being operational when the parks reopened they blamed rats and parts yet suppliers were making the parts already and other parks had theirs up and running throughout the entire pandemic while the parks were close shuttling around employees and workers so Disney could have been doing the same but in reality refused because they didn't understand the logic behind it just like their crowd control training makes crowds worst because the cast member is clueless of what crowd control even means let alone how to perform crowd control.
As a huge fan of Figment (not necessarily his attraction at the moment) I would love for Disney to swoop in and totally change the attractions but keep Figment. They aren't patching it at the moment and its had its better days. At the rate that its going I can see it closing completely in 5-10 years.
Imagine removing Autopia and Finding Nemo for new “New Tomorrowland” attractions and recycljng Innovations by making it the front for a new dark ride/ creating a new walkthrough attraction that fits with the “New Tomorrowland” theming. And the challenge for Disney is to not use their IP’s. Imagine a glow-in-the-dark walkthrough where you learn about space and you walk through galaxy projections, etc. Or a dark ride/coaster that takes you through alternate earths to musical accompaniment! Think Fantasia but like a “Hagrid’s” type coaster. Edit: If any of these actually happen: I called it and demand credit DISNEY 🤣
gut it and rebuild with new tech, while keeping the original theme in mind... but when I say new tech, I do not mean just screens or projections. If it's known to be a heavy animatronic ride, such as Pirates or Haunted Mansion, then I expect upgraded animatronics for it's new version. I would love to see Journey Into Imagination reimagined into what it was when it first opened but with updated technology. Get the full length of track back, and if they want to keep the Eric Idol Moon, that should be the only tribute to the current version allowed. Ok the butterfly in the cage can stay too.
I’ll be real, last year, I went to Disneyland for the first time in probably 7 years, and the whole time, my whole group was hyping up the Matterhorn, especially since last time we went it was closed, and I’ll be real, it was my (second) least favorite part of the trip. I’m a taller/bigger guy, so I was essentially tucked in, unable to see and fully enjoy anything, cramped as hell, and all in all not having a great time. I do adore the theme, though, so a rebuild would be fantastic.
Matterhorn Bobsleds: replace it or rebuild it?
A side effect of rebuilding the Matterhorn- you get to fix the bits of the Skyway that went through it.
Looking at it from the historical aspect: no.
It's the first tubular steel roller coaster... ever.
The granddaddy of every steel coaster in existence. Every coaster today owes it to that ride. And seeing that original track go away, while probably better as a ride, would see the loss of something greater than just a ride.
I understand the sentiment, but being a coaster history nerd I really want it to stay.
Replace it with superstar limo (but this time it's a coaster)
Haunted Mansion? Dude, I’m with you, it is my favorite ride in any park… I think I would want them to completely tent it and rebuild the heck out of… only thing that could not change is the mansion itself, upon further thought… most of the ride is in the outer warehouse, so they could do a tear down/rebuild.
i was under the impression it couldnt be replaced (to the same size/specs) due to modern building codes. and i mean, it's still really popular...
You hit the nail on the head. Current Disney should not be trusted to fix or update any rides you love. Bottom line is all that matters, and too many of the best imagineers left, shows what you need to know. Need new CEO and others, those with a creative minx.
Current CEO isn't the problem. The Board of Directors is. You need to clean Disney out of all the Iger people before you can successfully recentre the company and focus it again on creativity instead of being a tool for the political games and aspirations of a former CEO.
You're kind of missing a key point. Some rides do need to be retired eventually. Wear and Tear takes its toll over time. Some lower stress systems can be easily maintained and kept updated and operational for the foreseeable future. The Haunted Mansions for example. But some stuff does face decision points. And I know somebody deeply loves every single ride. But eventually they face the choice of major overhaul vs retheme vs tear down and build something new. And a lot of the oldest classic rides were not built originally with repair and renovation baked in. How much gnashing of teeth would you hear among Disneyland fans if they announced tomorrow that they were closing Autopia to build a West Coast Tron Lightcycle?
This is japan disney i think you should worry about the refurbishment
The CEO and the boards both need to go. the Matterhorn cars compared to the old ones are horrible same with space mountain. You have to have a mountain of money just to go then you have to buy genie Plus if you want really ride anything the pixie dust is almost gone I know I won't go back with my family
You all do know Disney doesn’t own any Disney parks outside of the United States. they license the rights to the Disney name and let the other companies do what they in the parks
The issue with tearing down and rebuilding anything within Disneyland is zoning laws. Matterhorn was built when zoning laws were more laxed, so they were able to build the mountain as we have it now. Tearing it down could make it impossible to rebuild it under current laws and in turn, make it impossible for Disney to put something there in its place beyond a short dark ride since they'd be unable to build a new mountain like ride there and would instead have to do a lot of changes if they'd even have a hope of rebuilding it. This may also be why the tracks aren't being replaced, because again, zoning laws make it harder to do that.
What's special about it though? I mean I get it, the now residents of Anaheim may have different rules, but it's really no different than a roller coaster at Knotts, Six Flags, or any other amusement park in the area is it?
That said, if they don't replace the Matterhorn I'd be fine with it, nostalgia can be a horribly convenient excuse to keep things around.
Actually, it's building codes that have changed, not zoning laws.
@@Mike__B What makes it more complicated is the coaster within the enclosed structure. It's not impossible. Just would require a lot of permitting and inspections and regulations etc. They might be able to slap down the proven designs from Expedition Everest and get relatively easy approval from local governments, or they may need to reinvent the wheel for them. But California remains a nightmare to build anything new.
@Alejandro Yeah I don't "frequent" the park because I'm not a local nor do I have an annual pass that allows me the freedom to observing the sight lines as part of my visit.
I care about the experience, and as it stands the experience of the Matterhorn is just not good. It's painful, it's bump, it absolutely feels like a 60+ year old roller coaster that is badly in need of refurbishment/replacement.
Now I really don't care what happens to it as long as something does happen to it. Gut the interior and redo all the track for all I care to make a smoother ride. Turn it into a big dark ride type experience similar to the dome at Epcot. Or level the whole thing and call it part of the Tomorrowland expansion since it really doesn't fit in any land.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you can't view Disneyland from an architecture's view point. I'm just not sure that's really big on most visitor's minds while in the park.
@@Mike__B it was already decided Tomorrowland will actually be shrinking with the Matterhorn and part of the land going to Fantasyland expansion since the largest footprint in the land is Autotopia and The Subs. Between the area taken from Tomorrowland and the theater Fantasyland will get a new attraction and a sitdown restaurant. The only things slated to remain in Tomorrowland is the Monorail, Spacemountain, and the Disneyland Railroad Station when they remodel the land.
Honestly, the Matterhorn scares me from a structural standpoint. It's been through 60+ years of earthquakes, including a six-pointer in '94 that collapsed freeway bridges and pancaked apartment buildings. I grew up seeing cracks in walls all over Orange County from that quake, and I can only imagine the damage the Matterhorn has taken, with a bone-rattling coaster running all day on top of whatever the quakes have done. Nobody remembers the movie it was based on anymore (yes, the Matterhorn is IP, and yes, the book was better). Find Harold the Yeti a new home before somebody else dies on that thing.
I’m sure that Disney maintains the Matterhorn and monitors its structure. Any damage from the earthquake, if there was, has already been repaired.
I read the title wrong. I thought it said, “What Happens When Disney Dies?”
I immediately pictured dancing Ewoks with new-found freedom.
The fact that the hatbox ghost just got a normal voice had me in absolute stitches 😂😂😂
Sounded like yesteryear
For me, personally, the worst example of this is the 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea ride in Florida. They drained it, let it sit empty for a few years, then filled the whole thing with dirt and paved it over and turned it into "The Little Mermaid Encounter." I also really miss the skycars in Florida. They took them out, too, but kept the terminals. (One of them is a video arcade now).
For me, the real questions are “In 40 years, which rides are so quintessential Disney that they ABSOLUTELY NEED to exist in one form or another. Which need to exist in their legacy (original) form to retain their historical significance?” I’m curious, does Disney have a “legacy program” for the parks and their rides? Something that inducts rides or features of each park into something like a historical landmark that requires preservation? This is something I’d rally behind…
I'm pretty sure the Matterhorn is at least recognized as an ACE historic landmark since it's the first coaster to use a tubular steel track.
Matterhorn rebuild would be so amazing but it's such a hard call to make, can't imagine that icon of the park being gone for a few years! But we need to rip off the band aid and have one that will last for many years to come! ☺️
When I think of dead rides I'd like to see returned, it's always Journey into Inner Space. I'm tempted by the potential of modern special effects, although the old school props were a big charm on the original. As long as it's an Omnimover and has that sweet giant microscope in the lobby I'd be happy.
Yesssssss! The ride really wouldn’t change much, although with AntMan being under the Disney umbrella, it would likely get a strange narrative twist when we enter Quantum Foam… but yes… they have do the miniaturized riders effect with some sort of updated movement to make the mini-riders more realistic. For the giant eye, the could use an extreme closeup of a real eye on something like an 8K screen… the possibilities boggle
You mean Adventures Through Inner Space? I'd love to see what they could do with it now. The problem is twofold: I could see it being an IP and a thrill ride now. I don't think Modern Disney would make it an omnimover attraction.
I can still see the giant eyeball with lashes flapping in the microscope eyepiece. So cool. Damn kids ruined everything. The Antman thing is a great idea!
after riding the matterhorn my mom had to emergency reschedule her gall bladder surgery from the next week to the next day because the ride just caused THAT much damage
The Matterhorn did not hurt to ride until they replaced the bob sleds. You used to lay back in the old sleds with two people in them. When they crammed 4 people in the sleds and made you sit upright is when it started hurting everyone.
Simple. Disney forgets about it like the Peoplemover.
Disney has not forgotten about the Peoplemover. It's too expensive and would take too long to rebuild it.
someone always has to go there and do it
Oooooo… wicked burn
@@nimblehealer199 actually they had a structural engineer come in and check out the track and the land for options and told him only things that will be staying are Monorail, Train Station, and Spacemountain. He told them the tracks are unrepairable and to bulldoze the entire land and rebuild what they want to keep. So they had thought of bringing them back and may be planning to relocate them if they were told the existing track wasn't worth keeping. The old Inoventions show building has the same footprint of Spacemountain so they could easily remove the track and rebuild it there with a upgraded show building after they figure out how to deal with the subs show building since it's over built like a bomb shelter so removal won't be a easy task.
Removal b e t t e r n o t t o u c h Peoplemover…
I’m actually really excited for new tomorrow land in Tokyo. Can’t wait to see what new space mountain looks like.
I think the answer with the Matterhorn is to do what they did with big thunder at Disneyland. Completely retrack and add in some show scenes
Dalin's shirt on the green screen showing footage through it
My brain: "He doesn't have a human heart. His heart is Disney!"
Because its Tokyo, I honestly have a lot of faith in it. Don’t know about the other parks.
I think that instead of replacing the Matterhorn I think they should just replace the track with a better one. Maybe it could have some new turns and drops. I really don't want them to get rid of the Matterhorn Bobsleds, it just needs a bit of fixing.
With all the Pirate tales out there I always thought that Disney should make a different “tale” or pirates experience at each park. I know the cheap thing is to cookie cutter it but it would be so cool to have a totally different pirates story being told at each of the parks
Especially since piracy historically was very diverse! It wasn't all Jack Sparrow and I'd love to see that explored.
I lived on a Usa/JSDF air force base for a few years. Tokyo disneyland was a train ride away! Got good memories of the Tokyo space mountain!
I wouldn't want them to tear down and rebuild the Haunted Mansion now because they'd do it to match the forthcoming movie
tRUE LORD
I have to admit the beginning cracked me up so much 😂
I’ve been saying we need a new Tomorrowland here in CA. Autopia needs to go. The big round building is just sitting there. People Mover is just an empty track.
I'd be ok if they rebuilt the matterhorn--as long as it still had the same general size and spirit of the current one and still two tracks.
And..... you like the current version of Test Track!? I'm shook.
Was test track ever that fun like the inside portions are cool cause it’s like all neon and stuff but the outside is literally just like going on the freeway
@@sideeswipe I felt like the old version had better theming. I'd be down for a complete makeover at this point.
I wish they’d rebuild Matterhorn, with a larger footprint, taking up a chunk of the submarine area. I’d love to see them use the rest of the space for 7 Dwarves Mine Train in Disneyland too. 😊
I like that idea too!
Space Mountain at the Magic Kingdom needs a full rebuild. It's been in a limbo state for so long. When I went on it last year it honestly scared me. I didn't feel like I was on a ride - I felt like I was on a machine which could kill me.
As a former Test Track CM… That whole track needs to be torn up. Most dangerous ride I’ve worked on by far, and evacuations are a nightmare. It’s way too open and easy for guests to slip away and get into restricted zones, the radios barely work, and getting people across the tracks on those rickety little removable bridges gave me a heart attack every time. Plus the backstage layout is insanely confusing and inefficient.
AND THE COSTUMES SUCK! I hated the zip front shirt and those awful pants. And we don’t even get a cool hat like Mission Space. :(
I vote for a tear down and total re-do. I hate losing attractions I love, but I love knowing there are brand-new attractions for my next visit.
I miss the people mover, but I am shocked that the Magic Kingdom Splash Mountain didn't make this list. You dunk Pirates, but at least their animatronics work. Last I went half of them didn't work, and looked like fnaf about to happen in a park.
That is because all Splash Mountains are being rethemed to Princess and the Frog since Splash Mountains is based off the old Song of The South film that Disney been trying to get people to forget was ever made once the politically correct protesters got involved.
I went to MK recently, like in April, and everything on splash mountain was working as normal (except one vulture at the top of the hill)
Lemme guess, rabbit on a stick?
The biggest cost in almost anything is building and replacing. What many people don’t understand is if you do proper maintenance (to anything) you’ll push back the end of life and the big cost of replacement. If they did maintenance like I remember when I was a kid things would last longer. And if they combined maintenance with updates they would spend less overall and give greater satisfaction to the guest. Okay off my soapbox. Thanks for the video.
Tarzan's Treehouse was a retheme itself of the old Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse. Hopefully they pick a more memorable theme this time.
Oh that’s easy, when a Disney ride dies, the go to the afterlife park known as Defunctland.
I would love to see Matterhorn get an upgrade. Preferably while Bob Gurr is still with us and can help keep some of those nostalgic touches on the rebuilt one.
I personally want them to keep my number one favorite attraction the same as long as possible the Hollywood Tower of Terror. I rode it for the first time 3 years ago and fell in love with how the theming was integrated into the ride and building. This is a ride I would describe as perfect and fun.
There is nothing like going into the main lobby of the hotel, watching the pre show in the library, walking threw the boiler room, and listening to the great ride audio while riding it in any park.
i totally agree. paris and florida need to keep their tower’s for as long as possible
RIP DCA tower.
Pirates in World is nearly the same as Disneyland with the exception of the opening cavern rooms, which get the boats by the restaurant, etc.
The Haunted Mansion cannot be touched. It’s listed in the ‘National Register of Historic Places’, or at least it should be!
If they do rebuild the Matterhorn it'd be nice to preserve the original track layout as best they can, given the ride's landmark status as *the first* steel coaster using the tubular-rail techniques that would dominate the industry into the 21st century. (Steel coasters just seem to be starting to move beyond tubular rails today, thanks to computer-aided design and manufacturing. But for many years, they were what made twisty layouts with elements beyond the repertoire of traditional wooden coasters possible, and most roller coasters built today still have them.)
Rebuild the Matterhorn. Maybe use the old Gummi Glen boat ride and *sigh* the submarines and at least part of Autopia if it needs a bigger footprint. Seeing the Matterhorn from the freeway after being on the road for hours is a special part of the Disneyland experience. It would crush me to lose that.
That space along with the Fantasyland Theater is already going to be getting used for a new attraction and sit-down restaurant with Matterhorn being 100% Fantasyland when they build New Tomorrowland.
But the old boat dock is where I eat my turkey leg in private darkness. LOL!
8:19 I love how he's imagining a watch on his right arm while wearing an actual watch on his left 😂
A great idea for Disneyland’s Tomorrow Land for the abandoned People Mover show building. They should use it as a Tomorrow Land museum, something like the museum in Great Moments with Mr Lincoln on Main Street, and put pieces of old and abandoned rides and vehicles from over the years on display as a way for guests to see the changes in the park over the years while paying homage to those old attractions. It would be a nice little nostalgia trip for old and new Disney fans. Imagine seeing the People Mover vehicles or Sky Buckets on display!
I don’t think we’ll see a rebuild of Space Mountain at the Magic Kingdom. I feel that once TRON is up and running they’ll close down SM and do an extensive refurbishment. Definitely a new track…but does that mean two tracks remain or will they completely rebuild the ride experience with one long brand new ride inside? The shell of the building is still great and iconic that could benefit from a more modern light package with LEDs. And, for that matter a brand new lighting and effects package inside as well.
You are one of the most creative UA-camrs out there. Thanks for always giving us new angles on our favorite place. And yes, Matterhorn is a tough one for Disneyland. Besides the Castle, it is the signature visual for the Park. But would love to see them really go all out with the swiss theme actually. More Swiss themed restaurants around the base and throughout the ride. The Yeti is fine but I think they could make it a friendly Yeti. Perhaps add more of a Swiss mountain guide theme with an audio track, guided tour with partial dark ride. Like the Matterhorn deserts so expand on that with pretzels, and other foods to put you in the mood. Perhaps a raises beer garden with German food too. These things could be done now and not have to tear down the horn. The audio guided tour would be an easy add on as well as a new friendly Yeti. Perhaps even more sounds of a storm as you go around the mountain for added effect.
They took the basketball court out of the Matterhorn, FYI. As far as what I'd want to see done? I'd like a full rebuild with the same theme.
It’s charm is that it hurts a lot! That made me snort. Well delivered line!
Its not shocking that Reflections hasn't gone anywhere....It costs Disney 15 billion per year to run their parks, resorts, etc. and lost billions over the course of 2020-2021 from their parks, resorts, movies etc from shut downs...I would bet the only reason Tron is getting finished is because the ride was already partially built when Covid hit.
Disney parks and resorts may have taken a hit but their other sources of income i.e. streaming services gained more than the losses and most parks and resorts weren't closed for that entire year, they had parks opening back up with safety protocols in place within a year, shops outside the parks open, and online shopping with store pick-ups.
Realistically Disney is likely to keep up with the patchwork and the abandoning but I think the best course of action is re-theme and!or rebuild if people love the attraction that's there enough it's rebuild if people want something new re-theme
I've been saying for a while that in Paris they should just tear down autopia and put a version of Test Track or Soarin OR BOTH, in it's place
I can confirm that the magic candle company is great
Current Disney just isn't doing a good job. I hope we get new Tomorrowland soon.
Think they are just waiting on the city to make a decision on the Disneyland Forward project since they already said Tomorrowland is their next big project and if they don't get the green light on the expansion then we could seen some of those attractions moving into New Tomorrowland, Tomorrowland is already going to be shrinking to give Fantasyland more space while Matterhorn gets absorbed into Fantasyland all while guests aren't supposed to notice the land shrinking since it will be taken from the wasted space Autotopia and Subs currently use which is the majority of the land already. Monorail, Spacemountain and Disneyland Railroad Station are the only things remaining in New Tomorrowland so that opens a lot of space to build new attractions in the remodeling of the land. The current layout getting to and from the Railroad and Monorail needed to be redone anyway so merging the entrance path to both in a wider pathway could allow both to remain open during construction of new Tomorrowland since you could start with the ramp from Monorail going straight to the Train Station then have guests take the Monorail into the park, board the train to go to other parts of the park then take the train back to Tomorrowland to board the Monorail to leave as a alternate to the front gates. With new ToonTown opening next year which is more of a face lift than a remodeling which they could probably have done this year but want to wait till Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway is ready before presenting.
For Anaheim’s Matterhorn problem, they should just fix the track and remake the older outer shell, Matterhorn deserves better especially for how many years it’s been there.
The Offhand Disney drinking game:
Anytime you see or hear:
People mover
Haunted mansion
Jean Lafitte
Kermit
Pavilion
What would you add?
Magic candle company and hatbox ghost!
@@mcwjes brilliant
Just saw that the Finding Nemo submarines are gone. No water at all in the park only coral which could be gone next
Why don't they give the Matterhorn the RMC conversion treatment with completely brand new track and trains? RMC is the company behind Twisted Colossus at SFMM.
I bet Tarzan's Treehouse is being re-themed as Mama Odie's treehouse from The Princess and the Frog, to go along with Tiana's Place and the Splash Mountain re-theme.
The Matterhorn just needs shocks under all of the bobsleds; making the them sort of float above their wheels.
Yeah they could tear it down rebuild the skyway and the matterhorn, close down autotopia to put all the supplies, tear down the people mover, it'd be a huge step to getting tomorrowland and everything back on track. I really hate that Tokyo is able to do this and disneyland is just floundering.
Honestly, I think that the bulk of Disneyland's Tomorrowland should be leveled. Space Mountain is great as-is and Star Tours is fine, but everything else is old, busted, and preventing a much-needed transformation. And I'm all for an updated People Mover, but it should be rebuilt from the ground up to fit the revised footprint of the new land. Matterhorn is a fan favorite, but it's also the source of many physical therapy sessions. I'd like to see it redesigned and rebuilt in conjunction with an updated Tomorrowland footprint.
I just have to wonder if the whole "Matterhorn is painful" thing is more for taller folk? I've never felt like it hurt me to go on it. My wife and I went last year and rode it several times and never got sore or sick or anything.
I'm not denying that it being painful is a thing, I've just never experienced it.
Now Rockin Rollercoaster? That's a ride that is painful and really does need a lot of TLC (not to mention a retheme).
Matterhorn needs work to get it to where everyone can ride it without being in pain. It's one of those fixes that can be a simple as changing the wheels on the bobsleds to ones that work better to smooth out the ride for riders.
Hey, they did it with SuperStar Limo into Monsters: Mike & Sully to the rescue.
I feel about space mountain in Florida as you do about the Matterhorn. It is fun and nostalgic but it’s old and jerky and my body hurts after.
Another well done video, thanks !!
I once walked around the ruins of the Fort Wilderness Railroad, it was really neat to think of where the track might have gone.
I’m so happy someone agrees with me for a Matterhorn rebuild
Finally got over to the west coast to visit Disneyland for the first time and I'll tell you right now, after riding the Matterhorn once, my shoulder will never be the same 😅🥲
with the way Disney is price gouging every little thing, they should have the money to rebuild a few of these attractions
Lol a few more like every ride in every park could be brand new every year and still have money leftover.
i need to know where you got the sleepy hollow shirt. 🥺💕
this is probably my favorite video of yours right now. i love following the life and death of rides and attractions. there was no secret password for the end card this time but i watched all the way through owo
David from FreshBaked! also just uploaded a video on his thoughts of new Tomorrowland at Disneyland w/ special emphasis on people mover.
I wish they wouldn't leave the rides abandoned. Unlike a regular theme park, these attractions are special. It's like leaving a dead body laying around.
It's a terrible move, environmentally.
2006ish, WDW CMs were told that space mountain in magic kingdom was going to be redone. But the only way that disney would redo it, is to tear it down, rebuild it, and make it two seats side by side on the track. Then the recession hit and it’s become a thing of management saying they’ll only redo it when they can tear it down but they won’t because it’s so beloved that they can’t ruin people’s once in a lifetime vacations to MK by shutting it down. Basically the same excuse they’ve been giving for years as to why we can’t get the overlay for nightmare in haunted mansion
Thank you for your always delightful videos.
All they need to do is change the sleds 🛷 to have a spring mechanism to smooth out the rough track. Imagine seven dwarfs mine train concept integrated in similar fashion.
A bit weird, bc Space Mountain is the second longest queue over there, after BatB? I was just there 3 weeks ago and even 40 minutes before closing it was a mega long crowd
That reminds me; is that gondola building still hidden at Disneyland?
You mean the Fantasyland end of the Skyway? That’s long gone now.
The Matterhorn was never smooth. Leave as is. Instead jump on MK to replace their Space Mountain.
Bob Chapek is making Michael Eisner look like a superhero.
8:04, I just told my husband about this. He was amazed at the evolution of it!
This actually is so factually fascinating. Thank you for this video. Thank you.
6 years later, and I'm still bitter over BTR being torn down. I worked opening day at BTR BBQ. Lots of good memories made there.
Hi Dallin, I'm from the future. They DID do something with Nemo. haha
The reaction I had to him talking about Matterhorn. That is my fav ride.
I'm so old, I remember when seeing the top of the Matterhorn from the 5 Fwy meant you were THERE! And sweetie, you think your knees hurt now? They made huge strides changing the vehicles after the late 90s. (2012--wow!) Soooo much better. Yes, sometimes parts of plaster do fall off, and it's down a lot. I think they need to rebuild as much of it as they can to make it as safe as they can. Our mountain is unique. I hate to hear about submarines going, but maybe I could see sacrificing it for the space to build a new mountain. Can't Elsa move to the Alps?
Hot weird take. I think the TreeHouse is going to have an Encanto theme.
Not a weird take. At least not to me. This seems logical to me and I said the same thing if they were to put Encanto in the parks.
Or…hear me out. Since the Jungle Cruise movie did so well, Trader’s Sam’s treehouse? It’s both IP and traditional Disney and it won’t age poorly like Swiss Family Robinson or Tarzan . Plus Trader Sam in the movie lived in the trees with her tribe so narratively it fits.
I could see them making it to where they can change the IP in 1 night to promote any film that they want to promote and then since it's next to Pirates throw up a skull and crossbones and tie it into Pritates when they don't have a film to promote with a sign at the exit encouraging people to check out Tom Sawyer Island and meet the Disney Pirates.
Swiss Family Robinson will be returning. And to the comment above, no it didn't age poorly. Swiss Family Robinson will be welcomed back with open arms by fans.
Since the Sky Buckets were removed that a Matterhorn rebuild now has some extra space available for track and/or show scenes within the mountain. It's been, what, 30 years since the Sky Buckets were closed?
I think that the classics should be preserved. I want younger people to experience the classics, however the moves that Disney will choose to make moving forward are well above my pay-grade
In the matterhorns case, because of how it was built- it really would need to be torn down to the ground.
Heart line. Something not fully understood at the time by anyone. Bob Gurr gave us the modern coaster.
Legand.
Option c- we move it and rebuild it.
Move it as it's an achievement of mountainous scale which should be saved somehow and rebuild it- because it's dangerous as hell. I have no doubt some rich fan would be happy to put it on their property and would pay enough for it to rebuild a new one.
Right when I was looking for a Disney related video to watch while eating lol
The drip on the thumbnail was icey my guy
We need you to put on a top hat ghost chain
🥶🥶🥶. Can’t wait for Nëw tömorrow Länd
I never noticed the hurting until 2019. Been riding it since 1985 and thought everyone was crazy. One thing that helps is to lean forward
Maybe a Rebuilt Everest, now that Flight of Passage exists and draws crowds to the opposite side of the park(and maybe something with Dinoland before that to just fix... darn near *everything* with Dinoland USA); put the pause on Expedition Everest's tours, tear down the mountain at least around Disco Yeti if they can't do anywhere else, and repour the foundation for him. Do it for the 20th anniversery in 4 years or the 30th or 40th just something. Please.
The only thing they should keep in dinoland is DINOSAUR, get rid of Chester and Hester's and replace that with something that fits with the dino institute
@@potato1094 yeah Dinosaur is why I said "darn near everything" it's too good a ride with a simple enough track layout that it can stay.
Maybe retheme the land around it to be focused on extinct animal species like the Brazilian blue macaw and Tasmanian Tiger and stuff to keep with Animal Kingdom's "Conservation of Animals for future generations" theme as the bittersweet message of "Here's what happens when we fail in our ambitions; these magnificent creatures now only existing in depictions."
@@stormhawkdude keep dinosaur the same and add a new trail with animals that have come back from the edge of extinction or something like that could be cool too
Didn’t the Matterhorn get new track not that long ago? Have fun riding the New Space Mt. in Tokyo Disneyland I mean Epcot.
9:48 shows Hong Kong's Space Mountain actually....but it's 99% the same as well, just different exterior slightly. Other than that, great video.
Dang it Dallin, stop wearing shades of green in front of a chroma key! 🤣
I say we keep the Autopia ride. Then have Honda(current sponsor) update it with cars that run on Hydrogen Power. By giving guests a free test drive on Autopia. Honda could use it to promote and sell their own hydrogen powered vehicles.
An attraction can always be refurbished, if it’s falling apart is because it is not being maintained properly, not because of how old it is. By the way, I’m glad they kept the subs, the attraction itself is awful, but I love the lagoon, it looks amazing at the park, it wouldn’t be the same without it.
Since Space Mountain and Big Thunder in California got full track replacements, I do think they could replace the track in the Matterhorn so it's not as bumpy.
The issue could also come down to what wheels they are using on the bobsleds, there are multiple cases of roller coasters having 1 type of wheel designed for a ride and then when the ride opens they find out environmental factors change how the ride vehicle moves along the track and the park has to change wheels until they find 1 that will work for them and Disney doesn't seem like they understand how that works anymore. It's just like the trams not being operational when the parks reopened they blamed rats and parts yet suppliers were making the parts already and other parks had theirs up and running throughout the entire pandemic while the parks were close shuttling around employees and workers so Disney could have been doing the same but in reality refused because they didn't understand the logic behind it just like their crowd control training makes crowds worst because the cast member is clueless of what crowd control even means let alone how to perform crowd control.
@@WolfDShadow Sir, this is a Wendy's
When I was a kid we used to call the Matterhorn, the Batter-horn. It seems it's still a fitting name. 😛
We called it the Splatter Horn!
As a huge fan of Figment (not necessarily his attraction at the moment) I would love for Disney to swoop in and totally change the attractions but keep Figment. They aren't patching it at the moment and its had its better days. At the rate that its going I can see it closing completely in 5-10 years.
Imagine removing Autopia and Finding Nemo for new “New Tomorrowland” attractions and recycljng Innovations by making it the front for a new dark ride/ creating a new walkthrough attraction that fits with the “New Tomorrowland” theming. And the challenge for Disney is to not use their IP’s. Imagine a glow-in-the-dark walkthrough where you learn about space and you walk through galaxy projections, etc. Or a dark ride/coaster that takes you through alternate earths to musical accompaniment! Think Fantasia but like a “Hagrid’s” type coaster.
Edit: If any of these actually happen: I called it and demand credit DISNEY 🤣
gut it and rebuild with new tech, while keeping the original theme in mind... but when I say new tech, I do not mean just screens or projections. If it's known to be a heavy animatronic ride, such as Pirates or Haunted Mansion, then I expect upgraded animatronics for it's new version. I would love to see Journey Into Imagination reimagined into what it was when it first opened but with updated technology. Get the full length of track back, and if they want to keep the Eric Idol Moon, that should be the only tribute to the current version allowed. Ok the butterfly in the cage can stay too.
I heard that to build the Matterhorn today, it would need to be twice the size.
Yes, redo the Matterhorn and get rid of the holes where the skyway went through. I would like to see that and make it less pain inducing.
I’ll be real, last year, I went to Disneyland for the first time in probably 7 years, and the whole time, my whole group was hyping up the Matterhorn, especially since last time we went it was closed, and I’ll be real, it was my (second) least favorite part of the trip. I’m a taller/bigger guy, so I was essentially tucked in, unable to see and fully enjoy anything, cramped as hell, and all in all not having a great time. I do adore the theme, though, so a rebuild would be fantastic.