Avengers Campus: The Worst Land Disney’s Ever Built
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2022
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Walt Disney Studios in Paris just opened up part 1 of their massive expansion plans to upgrade the park, and it came in the form of Avengers Campus- a large Marvel themed area featuring two attractions. Sounds pretty good right? Except the land shares no resemblance to any of the films, both rides in the area suck, and there's barely any Avengers presence in sight. Surely everyone will still love it, right? ....right?
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Just wait until Epic Universe opens. I don't think any park will overtake Magic Kingdom, but this will really chew into Disney's audience.
Do you think so ? They REALLY rely on status quo now, not even starting to care. All that matters is profits : actual guest attendance or satisfaction don't mean anything to Disney nowadays
@@HliarusProd Universal got the rights to use Nintendo characters, that’s realistically one of the only other brands that can rival Disney. They should be worried.
@@queencancerous5332 they would already be if they should... Yes, Uni has rights to Nindendo's IPs, but they won't be basing an entire resort off them anytime soon
@@HliarusProd just saying that the Harry Potter inclusion alone was what got Disney to start competing with them again, I have a hunch this might be another instance of that.
Disney will just raise prices when attendance dips.
I am a former Disney enthusiast who has been very upset with the decisions Disney has been making these past few years. Chapek is doing everything he can to ruin what made Disney parks enjoyable in the first place. Wouldn't be surprised if they turned park tickets into NFTs or something stupid like that. The guy only sees dollar signs and doesn't seem to respond to guest criticism at all.
I’m going to be fair here it’s not all Cheepak. Igor is responsible for a lot of this too.
@@ninjagirl226 at least he did stuff right
Chapek is making it worse
Iger wasn’t any different
@@skunkman9815 he didn’t though- galaxies edge is bland as heck- hardly any of the immersion he promised us came- not to mention what he did to EPCOT.
@@tylerhfroemming I went to galaxies edge and thought it was amazing (I'm not a star wars fan). Detail put into every place and every ride and the area in general. This places is the exact opposite of that
I appreciate CS's brutally needed assessment on the current state of Disney. Walt is absolutely rolling over in his grave.
You mean twisting around in his cryogenic tube
Walt would be appalled at what Disney is doing to Splash Mountain for reasons that I think are obvious to people that know of certain, feelings, he had about some people. Maybe what Walt would do isn't always the best policy.
That said - this isn't a Disney-caliber experience.
@@Danrarbc Walt Disney died a long while before the first splash mountain appeared at Disneyland. In fact, walt disney doesn't know many of the iconic attractions we know today.
@@cancelled148 People can have opinions on things they weren't involved in creating.
Walt is spinning like a bayblade in his grave.
This is definitely the dark ages for Disney Parks fans. The fact that the parks continue to be very popular despite the relentless compromises, shows how powerful nostalgia is. However, this is a double edged sword because if Disney maintains these expensive, low standards indefinitely and starts experiencing a decline in guests, it might be hard to build interest again. That's not even counting the more affordable and higher standards presently coming from Universal.
Complete agree. A lot of this is people who have no original ideas. All of this is stuff we’ve seen before or just some dumb rebranding (splash mountain).
Disney was best when they created their original stuff instead of just leeching on something existing. Think Haunted Mansion, Pirates, tower of terror, etc. hell, the best ride in *tomorrowland* is 40+ years old.
Rise of the resistance is great, but that’s the one exception. All their new rides are not memorable, at least for good reasons. Guardians doesn’t count, since it’s just a rebrand.
To add to the fact even the people that don't like their experience don't go to the park anymore it still won't incentivize them to change because people who have never been and/or the few people that actually like the new attractions still keep coming which brings in enough money that there won't be a reason for them to innovate
@@David-gj9qr I mean, I know it's an anecdote, but I have a big family and friend group that love disney, and we've had passes for years (going this weekend for a friend's birthday). And my family down in So Cal have a bunch of Disney friends too.
All of them, except for one couple, are not renewing their pass when they are up. The magic just isn't there anymore. The staff are not as friendly, the reservation system is terrible, paying for fastpasses is ridiculous etc.
Well at least Universal Florida & Japan cause we here in Hollywood ain't getting anything nearly as good as y'all have.
@@chipsinsideajar1372 at least you have Universal, here in Europe anything : (
The sad fact is that it’s getting to the point where even Six Flags is one upping Disney, judging from what I’ve seen with Cliffhanger at Fiesta Texas I’m pretty sure Disney is going to be left in the dust pretty soon if they don’t step up their game
Let’s be real: for coaster enthusiasts, Velocicoaster alone is enough to swing Universal IOA over ANY Disney park
Velocicoaster is incredible. Still my #1
I mean that's why I would rather go to Universal IOA over Disney world
By itself? No, not really. But IOA as a whole? Still my #2 or #3 worldwide.
If Universal would would finally properly come to Europe Disney/Disneyland Paris will have a serious problem, as the general European would finally see what is actually possible. Man, I hope a Universal Europe is their next project after Epic Universe.
Yup. I've said it for a while - universal has Disney level of theming, with cedar point quality of coasters. The ideal park for any family.
Glad you mentioned that Universal made a way better Spiderman dark ride 20 years ago. And it still kicks ass to this day
“I’ve seen Six Flags do more impressive themed experience then this” this is so true Disney is definitely starting to slip
To be honest it feels like they put less effort in than even some UK theme parks like the Chessington jumaji area or even Alton towers with the curse at Alton manor or Blackpool pleasure beach with Valhalla I'm a bit surprised because UK parks are not exactly known for they theming.
Thank God people are realizing the decadence Disney is going through... And imo, Tiana's splash mountain follows the same mentality: instead of doing something really worth it, they are going for the cheap and easy. Why don't they make a NEW attraction for Tiana in New Orleans square, while making an expansion at Magic Kingdom to acomodate a new attraction as well? Chapek be making too many mistakes...
Exactly, it’s already disrespectful to change the theme of splash mountain because a few people on twitter called it offensive, but what’s more offensive is to do a half ass job on the new theme
Exactly! Not only am I sad to see splash mountain go, but they could at least put more effort into the tiana project
@@logancoasterroasterlockwoo163 ikr like 4 people complained
@@logancoasterroasterlockwoo163 don't say that outloud in front of Sarah 💀💀💀
@@cancelled148 well I don’t know her personally, so I can’t exactly do that anyway, but out of curiosity, why not?
i remember the first i went to disneyland paris and went on phantom manor. i was mesmerized with the effects and even now im still blown away by some of the illusions there and only a few years ago i really understood how they actually worked and even now im still a bit confused about it, if phantom manor or the haunted mansion were built in this era we wouldnt have the stretching room like we do now, we would have a set of screens that show ïllusions and effects", we wouldn't have the pepperghosts in the ball room, we'd have a set of projectors projecting the ghosts or a screen with ghosts. my point is disney engineers spent day and night to make effects that would blow our minds decades later and they spared no expense, in any form to the point that even now for most people its a complete mystery how disney is able to make ghosts appear, and then i look at this and there's no mystery to it cause everything is on a screen and it doesnt even look good. billions of dollars were spent so we can sit in a carridge going from screen to screen. i dont even care about disney anymore so thanks, bobbo, for ruining what so many people loved with greed and laziness.
I guess Disney's feeling is that "people look at screens all the time anyway" - so let's make everything a screen. Theme parks should be a break from the screens! Immersed in a fantasy world. The best dark rides I've been on had no screens in sight (such as Terror Tomb at Chessington World of Adventures..RIP... or, can't remember the name of it, the flat ride/dark ride hybrid at Drayton Manor which appeared to spin you upside down in a haunted chapel. And yes, Phantom Manor). Making everything screen based is an insult to park-goers intelligence.
This is my home park and It is heartbreaking to see what Disney is doing. I have always felt like Disneyland Paris was the mistreated child and this confirms my thoughts.
You still have Parc Asterix building an intamin blitz near by
And paris became so expensive that it's literally cheaper to fly to tokyo for tokyo disney sea.
Disney sea will probably not suffer the same problems as paris, because it isn't run by disney directly, instead it only licenses it's IP to the Japanese, who know how to build a theme park!
Disneyland Paris has always gotten the short straw. This was meant to be a 'huge investment' to improve Disney Studios and clearly they failed to actually invest, again.
the original park itself plus the original space mountain was peak imagineering. every addition since then however…
believe it or not, the web attraction is an improvement on the armageddon attraction that was there before, the projections in flight force are also an improvement, the theming of the buildings, idk, kinda leaning to saying that now it's bland, sure, but also kind of better...
@@saberline152 anything would have been an improvement over Armageddon, that doesn't mean people should settle for mediocrity when other Disney park expansions are on another level.
@@SpikePBB *cough* and Universal expansions... *cough* Nintendo World... *cough* Epic Universe...
That's not entirely the case, dlp is one of the most detailed park of them all, the big problem are ht rules in France, before you can build something its takes so much time to get all the paperwork done and that's a problem you don't have in the usa parks
Disney knows they don't have to put much effort into thier parks because Disney enthusiasts will defend crappy lands and attractions no matter what. Disney isn't the standard for theme parks anymore.
Not all of us. I think I'm done with Disney. I just spent alot for a trip to Paris. Never again. Just going to Florida is along way for me. I did not renew membership.
Cringey Disney adults will continue to spend their money there because nostalgia is the greatest park ever. In their mind Disney was great, so they will make up whatever coping mechanism excuses they have to in their mind. People will get blatantly ripped off, lowered standards, etc. and will still defend the multi-billion dollar company Disney, because they have fond memories there as a child. Ridiculous.
@@shaodynasty1017 really the only reason (for me) to go to Disney world is for most of Hollywood studios and half of epcot. Magic Kingdom hasn't got anything big for years (and will only soon get something) and animal Kingdom is just meh except for avatar which isn't worth the 100 something dollars for admission
I’ll always love the Marvel section in Universal over the Disney ones because it has fantastic attractions (behind Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey, my vote for the best dark ride would be The Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man) and perhaps this is kinda a personal preference, but I prefer how it’s more-so comic book themed instead of live-action themed
I’ve been to the avengers campus in DCA… it was one of the most underwhelming things I’ve seen in any theme park in general. Literally the best thing in the land is a ride that opened years before avengers campus opened
Good
Avengers campus killed a bugs land.
It was better then offengers crappud
This kinda puts in perspective how game changing Epic universe is going to be.
I'm a former Magic Kingdom cast member and I used to adore the parks. Disney has really gotten bad. I worked there under Eisner and cast members used to gripe about him because he did things like putting characters in World Show Case and cheaping out from time to time. But Eiger was quite a bit worse and Chapek is fully destroying that company.
Walt built his park to be something truly inspiring. And for a long time the company continued that. Attractions like Horizons, Spaceship Earth, Tower of Terror, Splash Mountain, Indiana Jones... etc, all proved that the parks could still live on after Walt and do great things. But Eiger decided that the parks only exist to sell merchandise and promote Disney IPs. And Chapek decided that the purpose of the parks was to do that same thing but put zero effort into it.
This company brought us some of the greatest attractions and theme park lands of all time. But their recent work fully sucks. This is really disappointing. I'll stick with Herschend, Universal and SeaWorld for now. I'm not ready to be done with Disney parks forever just yet because I'm not quite ready to say goodbye to Pirates, Haunted Mansion, Splash Mountain (for now) and other such attractions. But this is seriously disappointing.
They also failed the 50th Anniversary of the Walt Disney World by using it as a marketing scheme and not connecting it to nostalgia.
The 50th at Disneyland was so much better!
@@AzKarma2010 you can say that again
@@AzKarma2010 the 50th at Disneyland was epic
i never thought i woude see the day that a ride with an identical layout is more well themed at a non Disney park (Wallibe holland) then at a Disney park
Disney is literally handing Universal the title of the best theme park chain on the planet. Comcast knows this and is taking full advantage. I would not be surprised if in 20 years Universal is as attended or even more attended than Disney.
I swear many of the CEOs in the current amusement industry have been making some questionable decisions. Whether it's Bob Chapek to Selim Bassoul, I can't tell if these people are deliberately sabotaging their companies or not.
I work as an Informations Systems Tech at a six flags park, and we were joking about the new ceo and his stupid decisions.
Disney: Get Woke, Go Broke - our new motto
If they re-theme Rock in Orlando as a thing like Flight Force, i'm gonna be pissed off, i swear lmao
Legally, they can't do that. Universal holds the rights to Marvel characters in Florida in perpetuity, which is why we'll likely never see an Avengers Campus in Florida in our lifetimes.
@@gabrielarredondo3825 and thats a good thing, because clearly Disney has no intentions in doing any compelling theming with Marvel
@@gabrielarredondo3825 Yes I know, that’s why i put an ‘’if’’
Just imagine the re-theme of Splash Mountain Boeing a disaster like this… bruh
@@gabrielarredondo3825 That's not exactly the case. Universal has the rights to the Marvel name and a host of characters (Avengers, Fantastic Four, X-Men, probably some others) but not all East of the Mississippi and in Japan. Guardians of the Galaxy otherwise couldn't be possible at EPCOT. So technically Disney can redo the Rock 'n' Rollercoaster and Tower of Terror area of Hollywood Studios into a Marvel area (without the "Marvel"). Tower of Terror therefore could become Mission Breakout and I wouldn't be surprised if Universal doesn't have Captain Marvel's rights and they could retheme RnR to Flight Force but without Iron Man.
So... sleep in fear.
Lol it would probably be better than the one in Paris
Avengers Campus highlights pretty much everything I hate about the current trend of management: half-assed attractions that basically serve as ride-through billboards for IPs released within the last 10 years, cutting corners on services while charging exorbitant prices for them, yet people somehow still eat it up and defend it.
It seems with the Spiderman attraction at least Disney took *two toys* , spider bots and web slingers then built a ride around them. The ride is just marketing for merchandise!
They keep it up and Universal with their highly anticipated themed new world/park opening hopefully by 2025 could becoming the go to destination in Florida. As they drop the ball Universal picks it up and makes the ball better.
The parks really should be detached from the merchandise and be two separate branches in the company, like it was before Bob Iger. I'm convinced it being the same branch is the root of most problems at the parks.
This is one of my favorite reviews I’ve seen from you in a while. Good job
Since Chapek took over, the parks are suffering.
Why did the board or whoever think HE was the man to run some of the greatest theme parks in the world?! (Universal IOA is good, but old Disney was better than Universal parks have EVER been in their whole existence. New Disney… admittedly worse than modern Universal.)
From what I've seen online of both areas, both Paris and LA, the biggest problem to me is the initial concept of presenting the Avengers (and all adjacent characters) in a real-world environment. That very choice, to make it appear as the avengers are real and you are walking around some headquarters-esque area, means that any building style needs to be rooted in realism as well. The result is that the facades can not make bold choices in style, particularly when concerned with the more "modern" areas. Go all in on Stark-tech and it will look like the future, instead advanced present day. Even building Stark Tower would not prevent that; it would look like a generic sleek tower with an A stamped on it (albe it recognisable from the movies). Basically, the concept of Avengers campus suffers from the same problems that the Studio theme has; by making it look realistic it automatically looks non-inspired.
It is a shame though, because there are a lot more ways to showcase Marvel without falling for this trap. Like you said, any outlandish area from the movies. But you can also go to a former Stark industrial complex in the 90's. Have the brick industrial styled buildings with old weathered posters from ye olden days (like Mission Equipment store currently has) and build on that.
Have a secret laboratory with Mr Stark on pre-recorded messages only for the 'rider' to discover Hydra has laid root and thus they need to destroy it.
You can have Capt. Marvel show up with younger Fury (akin to first Capt. Marvel movie) and build a story on that.
Heck, I'm pretty sure you can bring in the Guardians of the Galaxy with a weird time travel story "Are we back in time? On earth?" Because it's set in a fixed style the Imagineers can go all out with theme and style while not having to worry about continuity of possibly dying characters.
But alas, that is not where we went. It's a shame that after all that money has been spend to upgrade the area, it has improved so little.
I went to Universal Islands of Adventure and Universal Studios recently and literally any ride at those parks seems better than the two in this section. The theming is also better. For the few times that I walked through Seuss Landing at Islands of Adventure, it looks better than the Avengers Campus. Not to mention I was more impressed with all of the other areas in the park even more.
Universal have really shown how to one up the competition while Disney sit there with their finger up their arses. Sure they had a slight wobble with attractions like Jimmy Fallon and Fast and Furious but then came back with two home runs in Hagrid's and Velocicoaster. The problem is Disney won't do anything because their parks are still absolutely rammed regardless.
That's ignoring the California park and Epic Universe too.
@@Moothead2It will be interesting to see how Epic Universe impacts that when it opens.
And just a few hours drive away, you have Phantasialand - a smaller park with less budget who's just built an impressive steampunk-themed area (and an incredible flying coaster) that's light years away from Avengers Campus.
I thought Disney was gonna blow Avengers campus out of the water. Literally some of the greatest IPs you could ever ask for and the Spider-man "ride" might be one of the worst experiences ever devised. Blows my mind that the 90s Amazing Adventures still goes completely unchallenged. Either they got it perfect at the time or parks just lost their imagination and enginuity
To answer the question about continuity, Avengers Campus and all of the rides located in it (Guardians, Spider-Man etc) are not set in the main MCU continuity, it’s set in another universe within the MCU multiverse where the blip never happened which is why Tony is still alive
I was in line for about 3 hours on the Spider-Man ride, once we finally got to the front, the employees shut down the ride abd said that there were some technical difficulties. So then after they were done talking, I shouted at the top of my lungs "I WANT A REFUND" and the crowd sharing my ire agreed and started cheering, before anything could escalate the employees said that the ride would be in working order the very next day and later I got my refund the next week.
I think you were being kind. Avenger's Campus is doggie diarrhea that was run over by a bulldozer.
I'm glad you made this video I feel like I'm nuts because I pointed out that it looks like a industrial estate loosely themed to the avengers. For the Disney Simps to say well that's what they was going for. More like they needed a new area cheap
I don’t like the direction Disney is going, rides like rockn’ roller coaster and tower of terror are amazing, and they were some of my first amusement rides (rockn’ roller coaster was my first coaster). Me, and a lot of others hold huge attachments to these ride, but they are getting shafted for worse quality rides. This is a good model, but it’s Disney, and it’s Marvel, so it will succeed.
Seeing somebody in a Spidey costume do elementary school-level gymnastics is absolutely embarrassing
I haven’t heard a single positive thing about Avengers land.
Not one
Rightfully so. It’s an embarrassment to Disney Parks.
Yes... For French people, it's a pretty area, WEB is good because we don't now other ride like that. But, I totally understand what you say. For Flight Force, oh boy, it's the worse indoor roller coaster I have ever ridden Rock'n'Roller Coaster was much better than Flight Force. It's a downgrade, I really don't understand how it's possible.
Why is Captain Marvel speaking only English when her actress Brie Larson speak French? Her real last name is Desauliners
You know, I can't say I ever expeted to hear about a ride that has the same pay to win mechanics as so many bad video games. But now that I know it exists it seem so obvious.
Yeah, sorry, nothing will ever top dinoland USA as the worst Themed area at a Disney park imo. Even six flags can do better with theming.
That land was a joke. When I entered the land (before It got removed) I was like, am I in disney or six flags? It was bad lol
7:10 They added micro-transactions to a dark ride...
MICRO-TRANSACTIONS. ON A DARK RIDE.
Really sorry to hear about the experience you had at Avenger’s Campus at Disneyland Paris! If you do plan to visit the OG here in California, it’s kind of the same from what I’ve seen in Paris (pictures not in person) but I will say the stand out ride has to be Guardians Of The Galaxy: Mission Breakout! Agreed, Web Slingers is a work-out, but I would do it over Midway Mania because that one wears my shoulder out fast! Anyway, aside from all of this I really enjoy your videos and reviews of all the different parks all over as I look forward to visiting some of these places in the future. Keep it up with posting all the amazing content and I hope to meet you in person here in California!
Fun Fact: Wizarding World of Harry Potter almost went to Disney and it came heartbreakingly close to looking like this.
Universal is steamrolling Disney in the theme park scene now.
Oh good that it went to universal
Thanks for the review, when I go to Paris in the future I’ll make sure to hit up park astérix instead of this💀
Have fun at Parc Asterix!! That park is wonderful and amazing
Just because they buy up a franchise or a media company, doesn't mean we associate it with Disney. Disney used to have an animation style, a body of their own works, and all the creative infrastructure in their parks to support those. When you go to Disney you know the songs, the characters, the feeling of the park. Now, they bought up all these companies that are not consistent with their image and they slammed them into their parks as an after thought and tried to make them fit. It was never going to work.
Hard agree. Whatever next, National Geographic Land? Fml
@@gah-kaileung7075 They have Animal Kingdom
@@Acylumgaming hahahahahaha
That quick service restaurant named “Stark Factory” was already an Iron Man themed fast food place way before Avengers Campus. So you can imagine the amount of effort that went into re-theming it.
Honestly with the direction Disney is going vs the direction Universal is going with Epic Universe etc, I’m way more excited with what Universal is doing.
Both Galaxys Edge and Adventure Campus opened without their E ticket attraction. its almost like pre ordering a game... WALT WOULD NEVER
Your take is spot on. Chapek’s continued monetization of the parks will be Disney’s undoing.
The budget cutting is out of control. That combined with the nickel and dime mentality they have adopted in the parks just shows that Chapek is all about the bottom line.
They forced Joe Rohde into retirement. That was the beginning of the end for Disney Imagineering.
The Disney philosophy now seem to he to do everything on the cheap. Copy lands in multiple parks.
Nothing original. The highest quality product for the smallest cost.
Disney is relying on the brand to draw people in. It will work once because after seeing how bad the parks are getting, people won’t come back.
When the area was themed to the old Americas and it was still Rock N' Rollercoaster, this area was way better in my opinion.
Nothing says well themed like a land themed to bare bones military installations, and a bunch of 90s robo battery-operated walk around toys that you used to see outside of KB Toys attacking the base. I especially like how every new Disney coaster is themed to space because having multiple space mountains in the same resort makes loads of sense. The ride so nice they built it twice....except with tv screens of generic action sequences that are the quality of a 00s plasma screen. I absolutely love that the Pym's Test Kitchen here looks in no way like the cafeteria of my high school or one of those McDonald's that tries to look like a hip café. Kudos on the Stark Factory which is clearly themed to Bayonne NJ.
Ironic how you are talking about continuity errors in the land, the same could be said for the entire MCU. Some films has the characters go through a massive change, only to be thrown out the window in the next film. I feel like Disney is milking a dead cow that started to (slowly) die after Endgame.
So disappointed to hear this. I was really looking forward to what they'd done with Flight Force. 😢
I totally agree with you. We went last week. Did not spend more than 2 hour on the Campus, it totally felt uninspired and overcrowded. It only made us want to get back instead to the Disneyland Park asap. Now Walt Disney Studios Park even feels less attractive than before.
"make the most while doing the least"
I mean the park IS based on the MCU so
I went on the Spider-bot ride at California Adventure Park and it took the wind out of my sails as both a Disney Parks enthusiast and a Marvel fiend. Had a feeling of 'if they don't care so much, why do I?'
I am not really an avengers fan at all and never really enjoyed the movies so I don't feel the same but I do think it would be good to include more of the characters I guess.
I love me a good old CS rant! This and the La Ronde video had me dying 😂
Add a couple jokes, keep those funny cartoon things and you have a great park parody. Plz bring something like them back 😢
Well I live in South Germany and actually never went to Disneyland Paris. Why should I? Europapark and Phantasialand are closer. My only two visited Disney Parks are in Japan. I think I will never visit the Parks in Paris
I totally agree. Europapark and Phantasialand are much more attractive and offer better value for money. They have the better rides for only half the price. And the theming is even better than Disney, eg if you look at Rookburgh in Phantasialand.
idk about web slingers, but IOA's is no joke still an amazing ride! idk if they update things..
but my biggest takeaway was how clear the 3d and video was for a ride that kinda gets overlooked by noonie tourists like myself.
im SO glad I got to do it.
very well done, and fun... though I didnt know the villians that ride uses haha
Also why did they make the Webslingers facade in paris look like an abandoned Circuit City?
I can’t wait for them to open “rogers neighborhood” 😂
If I ever go to Europe I won't go here thanks for the reveiw, happy national coaster day!
Just got back from the one at California Adventure, and yes it's not up to the usual Disney Standards, but I can see them making improvements over time, some of the character interactions there are pretty fun. I haven't given up hope just yet.
I love all the memes in this video. It honestly felt like a parody, just without the cutaways and takoda
You have Sarah to thank for all that! She went way overboard on all the memes and it turned out wonderfully haha
I was just at the one in California and I completely agree. Guardians of the galaxy mission breakout is amazing but Web Slingers was not. And I felt terrible for everyone waiting in the regular line which was over 100 minutes. At least it had a single rider line
Can’t wait for Universals Epic Universe to open. Hope that gives Disney a wake up call.
When universal has a better marvel themed area, that's when you screw up
5:56 That was quite a slander 🤣
Bro, i pretty much gave up on most Disney parks especially my home park in Paris back then. And i totally agreed on how dumb it is to dub one character and not another one 😂 what? A lot of people around the world watch these movies in original version so wtf 🤣. What i hate the most about this whole Avengers themed refurb of this area is that most people and especially the GP were hyped for it and Disney is not showing any respect or effort on delivering a slightly more satisfying experience. Infinity gauntlet thumbs down for me 😭. Anyway, great content Taylor, keep
It up man 💪🏼
Avengers Campus at California and Hong Kong kinda feels better than the one at France. Is just my honest opinion 👍
Personally I absolutely loved Webslingers. To me, it didn’t matter what I was shooting at because it felt so interactive how you could legitimately sling objects once you latched onto them - that alone makes it my favorite “shooting” ride
"It was soooo stupid"
Excellent sustain for emphasis.
I agree 100% about your comments. They try to make a new land with old attractions and the result, especially for flight force is completely dark, sad, they even have replaced the trains that they have those old body restrains vekoma ride from the Rock'n roller coaster. But overall guests seems to like it and as you've said, what count is the revenue from the boutiques and Disney +. So I totally agree with you and thanks for share your opinion with us
The whole area looks like the shopping mall across the street my house. I wouldn't pay to get to that park again unless they open a few qiality attractions (no, frozen alone is not enough...).
The thing is, despite how lackluster these new Disney changes have been, Disney is still recording record profits. At this point they know that they can do anything and no matter how much people complain, they'll still visit the parks. And it's true, Genie+ is a total cash grab that requires immense planning to use, they've stripped away most of the perks of staying on property like extra magic hours, watered down many attractions, they got rid of the Magical Express, and raised the prices again and again. And despite all this the parks are filled to capacity to the point where there is no longer a slow season. As long as Chapek can bring in money, they don't really care what happens to the overall experience.
Being at Disney Paris 10 years ago and being a big MCU fan this kinda hurts for any upcoming revisits in the future :(
6:19 I don't know this for sure but it might be some sort of 'rule'. I know in France the government are very focused on stuff that is French with subsidies for buying French cars, I think around 30% of songs on radio must be in French etc so maybe they had to have a certain number of narrations in French
I think the exterior of the area looks nice but there rides are a bit disappointing. I also don't know why they have 'duplicate experience' roller coasters across the parks. Based on that I was expecting them to replace the older 'Arrow' trains to the newer Vekoma MK1212 trains like they did on Hyperspace Mountain
It’s a sad day for Disney when their draws for this exciting new land are: two celebrity cameos, and a relatively cool animatronic of Iron Man.
I admire your report on this land. Many channels wouldn't = but WDS is dire, and the "revolution" the park needs is anything but in gear.
I'll always tune in for anyone dumpstering Avengers Campus. That land is awful here in CA, and it's unfortunate it's even worse in France. I really wish Disney would get their crap together.
I went here last week. Flight force has had some updates with new effects. Also there are stars now. Hyperspace mountain isn’t as well themed as flight force though. On that it feels like they put up some posters and a few props and called it a day.
Apparently flight force is Unfinished, And will go down for an Upgrade (Again) In winter, We may get Some On ride music But i doubt We Get any new themeing, (Although the launch sequence is rumored to gain additional themeing)
I can be very short or very long about my reaction to this. But i agree with your video. As a lifelong fan of Disneyland Parks, it's sad to see how it is going downhill so quickly. The one i blame for this is none other then Bob Chapek. When Iger left he warned Chapek to not only look at numbers and statistics, but the keep the fans happy. CHapek promissed he would but as soon as Iger left, CHapek turned 180 degree's and stabbed Iger and the fans in the back. The guy is fixated on making massive profits, over the backs and losses of Disney fans. However, massive drops in fan wil eventually lead to a recognition to what Chapek will have cost Disney in the end, and by the time it is realised that they need the fans back, it will become very hard to convince them to come back.
I was there last week and waited like 5 minutes for flight force in the middle of the day. I liked the entertaimed that was the only good part about the land but when their is no entertaimend the land feels really lifeless.
The fairly neutral art direction for MCU earth stuff and Avengers stuff does make the project kinda hard, but it's Disney and they should be able to knock "kinda hard" out of the park. This reminds me more of the crappy Avengers video game than the MCU. Between the underwhelming new attractions, prices, crowds, and genie plus, I'm just planning on taking my nieces and nephews to Universal.
I hope that Epic Universe can force Disney to step it up. Disney's now about relying on merch and monetization to sell experiences which causes attraction quality and park experience in general to suffer, Web Slingers is the perfect example of this.
Wow, well said. We're going soon and we've already been to the Avengers campus in Disneyland (Anaheim) and it was underwhelming there. After watching this video, I think we'll skip the campus altogether. Sad to see what Chapek and co are doing to Disney. They're pinching pennies and making everything about selling food or merchandise, rather than the experience. Is Flight Force just a re-skin of the old Rock'n rollercoaster?
Literally just got back from Avengers Campus. Saturday 8th July. Queue for Flight Force was 5 minutes almost all day. No queue to get into the land. Web slingers was 55 minute wait fell to 25 at 8pm. Disappointed with Web Slingers. Same as Ninjago at Legoland. Paid for fast pass too 😢
This is unfortunately the turn I see Disney taking in the future. I just haven't been on board with what they are doing with their parks in years other than Galaxy's Edge. Oh well, great informative video either way!
Would appreciate a top 20 “lands” in parks youve been to please
i used to visit disney world or land at least once a year for 9 years straight, the last time i went was so disappointing that it’s been 3 years and i haven’t gone back since. Wake up disney god.
The thing about Europe, too, is that theme parks with more or less Disney-level theming are actually quite numerous there, which might be one of the reasons Disneyland Paris was always kind of a difficult sell. If they want to compete they have to step up.
Europa Park is much better than both Disneyparks in Paris.
I totally agree with your points. For the amount of money that guests have to shell out, guests are craving a much higher quality of sensory immersion that Disney is seriously falling short on.
They did recently add more effects in Flight Force. Still needs work, but it's better than it was when you rode it.
Avengers Campus in California looks to have a lot more energy than this, even if it's still sort of lackluster. This one looks like a total disaster.
No it doesn’t its trash
I wasn't planning on going to paris until avengers campus, frozenland and star wars land (if ever built) is finished. but now not anymore after seeing this review.
The Avengers alley. We just went most of the flight force coaster had less than 5 minutes wait already. I didn't realize they had just opened the land.
Busiest bathrooms and dirtiest bathrooms too.
Avengers campus at DCA killed the strongest memory of Disneyland