When I filmed him, he said to me that it was the most he'd lead the route ever. He practiced it on top rope until he had it dialled. He's a boulderer mainly. Funny thing was he called wires/ nuts/ stoppers 'wire thingys' at one point.
@@bensanfordmedia whats up with the footage at 04:05? All the Black in the image are a greenish mess? Left side in the crag for example. I'm just curios and a video editor ;)
Awesome, really appreciated that most of the moves were included in this edit. Much more enjoyable than the frantic, "cut to the crux style" of many films.
@@silenthicks Because stoppers feel the least secure as a piece of protection to place in comparison to Cams/friends and hexes. So it's extra bold to climb in that style.
@@bensanfordmedia Not really true. It always depends on the placement. There are placements where stoppers definitely feel way more secure than cams ... And I'm sure if he felt like some cams would suit this route and make it safer, he would've used some cams, but he decided stoppers just work better.
@@masterpropper2485 I understand that, I've climbed trad for years. Some grooves take wires way better but in general they are rated lower than their equivalents in cams, so in general people feel like little wires aren't as nice to whip on. Hence Dan climbed it in bold style. He mentioned he borrowed the wires, he didn't own a rack.
Using stoppers is not "bold". They are simply just better than cams in some situations. The unfortunate reality is passive protection is becoming a lost art form.
Awesome send Dan, the video footage makes the crack look bigger than it is in reality. I had a play on bottom section in the mid 90's and was so spanked I could never move out of the curving crack. George bolted a route above and to the left of Functor which needs some lovin'
Definitely some ballnut potential on this too.....maybe it's just easier to quickly slot a nut and set it on these moves than use a cam, especially in some of the blind placements.
Beautifully done! Back in my day, we did everything possible to avoid placing bolts on a rout. Ethics were the biggest concern for us when placing a rout. That's mostly gone now. Such a thrill to see such a clean accent of this amazing line!
Awesome, well done. A minor point? The term 'testpiece' is not just for a hard climb. It's for an established classic that is considered the benchmark for the grade, something other climbs can be compared to. Up and coming climbers test themselves on a testpiece to know that they can climb that grade. Vertigo may well become a testpiece, but as a new route (and unrepeated?) by definition it can't be one yet :-)
Climbers are the "Special Operators" of the Action Sports world. I get psyched out on sport routes so mad respect to this bloke for this hardcore trad send.
6:15 Tape on left hand disappearing. 6:53 Tape on left hand reappearing. 7:05 Tape on left hand disappearing. 7:13 Tape on left hand reappearing. Nice climb though!!
This isn't just the hardest trad route in Australia, its one of the hardest trad routes in the world, incredible effort for someone with a full time job expecially!
Yeah I'd find about any excuse possible not to try this one.......mad respect.. I'd have to top rope that one till the rock was smooth too have the balls to lead it
I spent a fair bit of time working the route. It is definately harder than 32. My thoughts were quite a few moves around V7- 3 moves around V9-V10 and one V11. Very sustained climbing.
The dragon is a touchy subject, may or may not have actually been done, a hold has rumored to have broken and it hasn't had a repeat since it went up 19 odd years ago. The line is mega tho definitely could go.
Amazing looking climb (and gear colour coordination), but the editing is far too choppy (changing angle every 3 seconds makes it hard to see the actual climbing) and the sound balance is buggered at the start, the kickdrum nearly blew my headphones after turning it up to hear his quiet interview.
Hope this helps with your trad climbing mentality. When I started, traditional climbing was all we did. I learned all I could about all the gear, especially the strength specs. This allowed me to use it all confidently and creatively in many varied situations. Bolts however left me with many questions. Who placed them? What kind was used? How much masonry experience did the person have who placed them? I always backed up a bolt with gear if I could. I knew about the gear I was using. I did not know about the bolts I used, and did not trust them blindly. Hope this helps.
Pretty impossible to have close-ups and drone shots without seeing a camera man from one send. We did three laps to film it that day. The actual FA was not filmed.
@@semmtexx What? Video footage is RARELY of the actual ascent when it's edited footage like this. The anchors end basically at the lip. I'm asking if he topped it all the way out. Whatever you're butt hurt about, you need to get over it.
Nah, this was filmed a couple of weeks after the FA, hence no excitement reaching the anchors etc. I'm not sure if Dan continued through on the FA to the very top.
@@paddyoneill3243 gear is shit? Now neither of us really know how the gear is since we can't view each placement, but the wires look like they all set decently into constrictions. Just because they're not cams doesn't mean they're not bomber
@@joshcourt6744 cams aren't the be all and end all but it looks like he places a few brasses or micros you can't really tell on the video, but he even states himself that the gear is shite on these moves?
@@paddyoneill3243 Placements for excellent small wires are available but they are blind and taking a hand off long enough to get the gear in adds substantial difficulty. I think the English grading system would struggle to deal with this route, and it's much better described with a regular climbing grade plus two sentences to explain the gear situation.
@@user-zu2hv2qc7c our grading system covers the over all technical side of the climb the tech grade.... The e side of the climb can mean anything the fall how shit the holds are how hard it is to place gear is the gear shit, have you done this climb.... I have no idea how ozzie grading works the sentence would this be a brief over all of the type of route?
I'm enjoying the climb - however, from a production point of view, the music is too loud (WAY too loud in some sections) and the narration is way too quiet. Needs re-balancing.
Congrats for that amazing route!! But.. So many people around that guy, and nowbody say.. Hey dude Use the HELMET for your safety!! And for all that new climbers that will be watching this vídeo!!
"I'm not a trad climber" - guy who's been trying a trad line for 8 years.
Brandon R lol so true, nice comment
When I filmed him, he said to me that it was the most he'd lead the route ever. He practiced it on top rope until he had it dialled. He's a boulderer mainly. Funny thing was he called wires/ nuts/ stoppers 'wire thingys' at one point.
@@bensanfordmedia whats up with the footage at 04:05? All the Black in the image are a greenish mess? Left side in the crag for example. I'm just curios and a video editor ;)
@@limekrhythm6749 Not too sure, can't actually see what you mean. I almost never edit, so I'm a rookie. Must've been a grading error.
Hannes Müller Doesn’t look off at all, must be your monitor.
Awesome, really appreciated that most of the moves were included in this edit. Much more enjoyable than the frantic, "cut to the crux style" of many films.
love how all the gear were stoppers! way to go
im not a trad climber why do you praise using one specific type of gear?
@@silenthicks Because stoppers feel the least secure as a piece of protection to place in comparison to Cams/friends and hexes. So it's extra bold to climb in that style.
@@bensanfordmedia Not really true. It always depends on the placement. There are placements where stoppers definitely feel way more secure than cams ...
And I'm sure if he felt like some cams would suit this route and make it safer, he would've used some cams, but he decided stoppers just work better.
@@masterpropper2485 I understand that, I've climbed trad for years. Some grooves take wires way better but in general they are rated lower than their equivalents in cams, so in general people feel like little wires aren't as nice to whip on. Hence Dan climbed it in bold style. He mentioned he borrowed the wires, he didn't own a rack.
Using stoppers is not "bold". They are simply just better than cams in some situations. The unfortunate reality is passive protection is becoming a lost art form.
Nice video! Had me laughing at "I'm not a trad climber" ..climbs 8b+ on trad..:D
Fantastic not to see someone howling and grunting, just getting the work done! Amazing climbing, sweaty hands business
Awesome send Dan, the video footage makes the crack look bigger than it is in reality. I had a play on bottom section in the mid 90's and was so spanked I could never move out of the curving crack. George bolted a route above and to the left of Functor which needs some lovin'
Absolute animal. My hands got sweaty just watching this.
Great video. I thought to myself "That's a good spot for a cam" and you placed a nut. Well done.
Definitely some ballnut potential on this too.....maybe it's just easier to quickly slot a nut and set it on these moves than use a cam, especially in some of the blind placements.
Damn impressive! Great style and a humble bloke too.
awesome! massive congrats. holding down a regular job adds another layer to and already serious achievement as well! Great vid.
That's incredible.... That layback section near the end looks insane
Great video, love the detail on holds and gear and clear shots of the climb from start to finish.
Thanks Ben!
All that gear just looked so comfortable. Love it, good effort!
So glad to see someone showing off the katanas again!
Excellent! Congratulations!
done a lot of trad back in the day.... can't even imagine climbing 5.14a TRAD..... that was wicked..............
Beautifully done! Back in my day, we did everything possible to avoid placing bolts on a rout. Ethics were the biggest concern for us when placing a rout. That's mostly gone now. Such a thrill to see such a clean accent of this amazing line!
I mean you could bolt that but why when there's optimum pro placement everywhere
Awesome, well done. A minor point? The term 'testpiece' is not just for a hard climb. It's for an established classic that is considered the benchmark for the grade, something other climbs can be compared to. Up and coming climbers test themselves on a testpiece to know that they can climb that grade. Vertigo may well become a testpiece, but as a new route (and unrepeated?) by definition it can't be one yet :-)
incredible work
Very aesthetic line! Great effort man!
Excellent, very well done!
that chimney on the left looks interesting...
Climbers are the "Special Operators" of the Action Sports world. I get psyched out on sport routes so mad respect to this bloke for this hardcore trad send.
Pity, that route ends at the edge, not at the top of the rock. Anyway very nice line and great climbing. Thanks!
Brilliant mate.
i love daniel fisher
Nice Dan! Sick to see you're still going hard!
His crack glove is awesome, just why bother. This makes this send even greater!
What a beautiful line. Strong work!
Awesome send and great looking route, nice work dude!!!
Thought I was looking at something on Derbyshire grit lovely vid great climbing well done!!
So awesome. Shows labelling yourself as sport/trad/boulder means nothing. Just go climbing and try hard like this young fella.
sick, well done Dan and great video too
Wow. What a beauty!
Dan, you are awesome, Congratulations mate!
6:15 Tape on left hand disappearing. 6:53 Tape on left hand reappearing.
7:05 Tape on left hand disappearing. 7:13 Tape on left hand reappearing.
Nice climb though!!
Oops. I only have two hands, bit hard to shoot two cameras and a drone at once. This wasn't actual first ascent footage, nor did we say it was.
@Pete is never wrong Thanks Pete, appreciate it!
Where’s the topout? Nice route, Nice vid.
Such an epic send Dan!!
amazing
What an amazing line. Congrats.
Well done mate! It's hard enough as an aid route so well do on sending it like that!
Yikes. I was worried about some of my pieces popping while aiding Vertigo! Serious kudos due here.
This isn't just the hardest trad route in Australia, its one of the hardest trad routes in the world, incredible effort for someone with a full time job expecially!
😂
Nice my dude. Very strong
Just awesome!
Yeah I'd find about any excuse possible not to try this one.......mad respect.. I'd have to top rope that one till the rock was smooth too have the balls to lead it
what a sick route
@6:40, we've all experienced that moment.
daniel fisher is my idol
Balls of steel
I’m so curious as to who discovers the paths for climbing.
Nice mate!
Unreal
Well done 👍
Yeah... more aussie climbing docs please.
Never thought that the tape beta for an 8b+ would be one flimsy boi
I spent a fair bit of time working the route. It is definately harder than 32. My thoughts were quite a few moves around V7- 3 moves around V9-V10 and one V11. Very sustained climbing.
my heart was racing
Well ... What about topping out ?! very nice line though
Great effort 32 is a serious undertaking but isn’t this the same grade as the dragon in kalbarri and whistling kite at frog?
Whistling Kite is the same grade but is not a trad line, has some bolts as well as gear, no idea about the other one
The dragon is a touchy subject, may or may not have actually been done, a hold has rumored to have broken and it hasn't had a repeat since it went up 19 odd years ago. The line is mega tho definitely could go.
nice line!
Absolutely Bad Ass!
Amazing looking climb (and gear colour coordination), but the editing is far too choppy (changing angle every 3 seconds makes it hard to see the actual climbing) and the sound balance is buggered at the start, the kickdrum nearly blew my headphones after turning it up to hear his quiet interview.
Fiend O'Phobia 😢🎻
Great Video ;)
Those draws look nice
so sick. great footage. Has Logan climbed this?
Which bit of "first ascent" are you having trouble understanding?
Nah Logan hasn't done it, I believe he's tried it though.
@@bensanfordmedia nice! He has drive and skill.....thx!
doesnt the dragon in kalbarri WA go at the same grade (im aware it is unrepeated tho)
That Zac looks like the Aussie version of Tommy Caldwell lol
Wow with 0 cams?!?!
What is the soundtrack in the end of this video?
Stranger In The Woods - PALA (Instrumental)
Is there a route up the left arete ?
There's a route in the chimney on bolts, not sure about the arete though.
Great climbing.
The video? Not so much.
Too many cuts and zooms.
And the audio levels! Music is waay to loud in comparison to the spoken parts. I had to adjust my amplifier on every cut.
Parkour reborn one?
Surely, trad routes should top out if possible???? He could have belly flopped onto that sloping shelf at the top. If he had a belly, that is...😁
Hope this helps with your trad climbing mentality. When I started, traditional climbing was all we did.
I learned all I could about all the gear, especially the strength specs.
This allowed me to use it all confidently and creatively in many varied situations. Bolts however left me with many questions.
Who placed them? What kind was used? How much masonry experience did the person have who placed them? I always backed up a bolt with gear if I could.
I knew about the gear I was using. I did not know about the bolts I used, and did not trust them blindly.
Hope this helps.
Soundtrack?
In order:
By My Side - The Emerson Year
Give - OBOY
Stranger In The Woods - PALA
All instrumental versions.
We’re all these shots from the one send? The tape on his hand disappeared halfway through the climb
Pretty impossible to have close-ups and drone shots without seeing a camera man from one send.
We did three laps to film it that day. The actual FA was not filmed.
Does anyone know the music from 2:25 to 2:47?
Hey Ed, it's Give - OBOY (Instrumental)
whats the song name?
Why not top out?
Cool
Used to be the hardest. Those sacred rocks are safe now..
🤡🤡 🤡
Nice, I'm also a high school teacher
Was this a HeadPoint ascent?
Dan just reclimbed it for the video, FA was a normal Redpoint
What's the name of the song starting at 3:50 ?
It's Stranger in the Woods by PALA
@@bensanfordmedia I cant find it. Could you please send link? Thanks
V10/11 is harder than 8b+ for overall grade. Looks like a major sandbag. OTOH all hard cracks are just plain nasty.
Freestyle sand bagging. It’s the Australian way 👍🏼
Hard to say there was a v10 Boulder in that man
Will he retrieve all that protection he put in? If not, that could be an expensive climb for a school teacher. Or anyone.
You don't climb, do you?
BOLD
Doubt the video was of the ascent, but was it topped fully out for the FA?
jlehm 1982 get off it dude.
@@semmtexx What? Video footage is RARELY of the actual ascent when it's edited footage like this. The anchors end basically at the lip. I'm asking if he topped it all the way out. Whatever you're butt hurt about, you need to get over it.
Nah, this was filmed a couple of weeks after the FA, hence no excitement reaching the anchors etc. I'm not sure if Dan continued through on the FA to the very top.
Ben Sanford now that’s a real answer! Thanks for the info. Cheers.
@@jlehm It's 4th class from the anchor to the top, even you could free that bit.
cool route but hard to watch with the changing views.
What grade would this be given for English trad?
Bold e10 because the gears shit I think
@@paddyoneill3243 gear is shit? Now neither of us really know how the gear is since we can't view each placement, but the wires look like they all set decently into constrictions. Just because they're not cams doesn't mean they're not bomber
@@joshcourt6744 cams aren't the be all and end all but it looks like he places a few brasses or micros you can't really tell on the video, but he even states himself that the gear is shite on these moves?
@@paddyoneill3243 Placements for excellent small wires are available but they are blind and taking a hand off long enough to get the gear in adds substantial difficulty. I think the English grading system would struggle to deal with this route, and it's much better described with a regular climbing grade plus two sentences to explain the gear situation.
@@user-zu2hv2qc7c our grading system covers the over all technical side of the climb the tech grade.... The e side of the climb can mean anything the fall how shit the holds are how hard it is to place gear is the gear shit, have you done this climb.... I have no idea how ozzie grading works the sentence would this be a brief over all of the type of route?
It sure don't look like that now!
Did this area burn?
버티고?
Harder than punks in the gym?
Ahh fuck so australian lol
I'm enjoying the climb - however, from a production point of view, the music is too loud (WAY too loud in some sections) and the narration is way too quiet. Needs re-balancing.
vertigo from roblox parkour??????
HELMEEET
Congrats for that amazing route!! But.. So many people around that guy, and nowbody say.. Hey dude Use the HELMET for your safety!! And for all that new climbers that will be watching this vídeo!!
This would be 12+/13- in joshua tree
after waching alex this is nothing bro!