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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- The new Pharmacy First scheme now allows you to get checked and prescribed medication by a pharmacist instead of going to a GP.
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Robert F Kennedy jr..... "We as a people need to stop thinking of health as something that comes out of the other end of a syringe"
And a bottle of pills
This country is going down fast , what next? Do it yourself surgery on the kitchen table , that is if you are lucky to have a decent sized kitchen .
I've seen plenty of diy surgeries in local kitchens 😵💫
Or a kitchen at all
You won’t be able to buy a knife 🔪 let alone a scalpel !!!
I did mine in the bathtub.
I mean, you shouldn’t be going to the doctors for something like a cold or a broken bone when those things heal on their own. You’ve got to respect the fact that there isn’t enough money right now
Perspective: It's not allowing them to "free up'' Doctors time to allocate for other appointments. It's allowing the further decimation of the NHS by the removal of access to a GP and making it look like it's being done for the purpose of convenience. For the last three years access to a GB has been gradually reduced more and more, and now this.
Just another form of creeping privatisation.
I mean, maybe they aren’t being so forthcoming with the intention behind their actions, but that doesn’t change the fact that this is a good thing.
@@L333gokIt is, but only because they are running down the NHS. This has been part of the Tory plan since coming into office 13 years ago. Hunt and Andrew Lansey even wrote the book on how to do it. Run it down until the tipping point comes. People who can afford to, take out private health insurance and leave the NHS as a last resort for those who can’t afford anything else. Let the NHS wither and die naturally, but they can say they never closed it down.
This is nothing to do with helping people get care, it’s just another cost cutting exercise designed to make chronic GP waiting lists look better. Shoddy yet typical. The ever growing demands caused by non contributing ‘citizens’ won’t help matters!
Grow up
Something tells me that it will STILL be difficult/impossible to get a GP appointment.
I will be forced to dispense antibiotics .I don't care anymore ..
@@Ajon886 now they want to escape pharmacists.They don't understand how bad it is inside the pharmacy .In Ireland i could be paid double,but it is not all about money ,we live in constant stress not sure what to expect
It's getting easier to see UFO than your GP.
Yes hiding behind there surgery door!!
@@markcolston2930 I think there is a problem with society and prevention has failed .
I had a gum/tooth infection I needed anti biotics for and cos it was dental related only dentists are able to prescribe prescription for it apparently, i was suffering for days trying to get a dentist after being turned away by my local pharmacy and the hospital. I managed to get an emergency appointment with my GP and she broke the rules and prescribed me some antibiotics. So hard to get a basic medicine that you can buy online for £5 (given you have the correct credentials) but it's one of those things you need immediately. its no good having to wait weeks for an appointment.
The state of this country, what a dump it has become
Exactly . Just been warching the ''New culture forum , fight for an elite that despise you ''. The video is brilliant .
Why don’t you go live in North Korea then. Im sure you’d then appreciate the UK
@SolidTube911 North korea, where it is decidely not a dump? zero crime, everyone HAS to work, and no woke garbage? Sounds an improvement on this dump of a country. By the time you read to this point, fir sure you've got your stupid "Korea has malnurishment, internment caps, dictator....blah blah'
Well save it leftie
@pawsforthought doesn't it just make you ready to join the army...😂
@@Beyonder1987yawn...
Treatment includes anti-biotics even though we've been warned about resistance for 20+ years.
I agree but , there are still people around that say they want anti-biotics from their doctor for a cold virus .
That’s why they will be assessed first …..
so this is instead of seeing your GP, who you can't see anyway since the pandemic. This is how they destroy GP services and the NHS in general. I read somewhere that pharmacy services are also having a crisis, as they are not making enough money.
All part of covid plan maybe
Our local pharmacists are always busy, many people in line waiting to see someone or to get their prescription, how is this going to help? Maybe the Doctors should put a little more time in?
That stupid woman is completely wrong. I live in France and they are very strict on drugs without prescriptions - no way can you get antibiotics without one.
especially as they keep banging on about how dangerous it is to prescribe too many antibiotics as you can eventually lose any benefits from them.
I thought ,so we were told , that there was thousands of trained doctors,scientists,teachers ,Engineers etc recently arrived by dinghy . I presumed they were all ready and waiting to set up in practice in the hotels ,we as taxpayers ,had provided for them .
Very good point 👍, to busy at our GP
A qualified doctor, an engineer or a scientist would never cross the Channel in a boat.
the politicians have been saying this since the early 70 s .i have a gut feeling its a lie
Why is there such a shortage of GP's all of a sudden, my GP has been using trainee paramedics the last year, they haven't got a clue infact one prescribed an adult dose of antibiotics to my 4 year old daughter, luckily my fiancee works in health care and noticed the dosage requirement... absolute joke this country has become.
There isn’t a shortage there are literally millions more people in the last few years. We can’t keep up with the sudden demand on just about every service
Yep but we can't talk about the random millions of more people that sprouted out the ground 😉 without being silenced, ignored and deemed a migrant hater 🤣
@@Ajon886 A drop in the water compared to those coming in.
I haven't met a doctor I'm less educated than yet, they lack training big time.
England has been dying for at least a couple of decades. We all ignored and and pretended nothing had changed. It’s our fault as much as anybody else. It’s our country and way of life, we should have protected it and didn’t. I mean even now who’s ready to March on Downing Street and take back our country ? Anyone ? No.
But everybody just wants to blame somebody else.
All the doctors coming over on dingys and we have a shortage of them ,who would have thought it
Biggot , they are trained pharmacists and engineers mostly .That's why rishy rich can expand pharmacy jobs
@@rocky76dude7 90 percent of them dont know what a pharmacist is ,you terrorist enabler
I thought they were already over worked. So don't know how they'll fit it in. Many pharmacists have closed. Maybe it's because they are getting £15 per consultation and a £1000 incentive if they meet a target.
So GP's will be doing less work than they do now and still expect the same money. 1st they pass everything on to 111 and A&E now the local chemist. But you have to get past the 7 year medically qualified dictating receptionist.
Yes indeed - these jumped up wastes of space seem to think that they're more medically qualified than actual Doctors and Nurses ! They need to learn to stay in their f@#king lane !
This is what they've done to this country absolute disgrace bow your heads in shame you can't get a gp appointment can't get a dentist joke.
Why stop at pharmacists , maybe get taxi drivers to dispense
Pharmacy's already do enough this is a joke. Many dont have time to provide another service
Lazy doctoring at best... Medical negligence at worst,You decide,I already have😞
Oh great the queue in my pharmacy is long enough already
can prescribe all they like not gonna solve the lack of stock they can't seem to find or want too
Its
Not down to the pharmacy it’s the suppliers wish people would realize that. Stop taking your frustration out on the pharmacy they are people end of day
@@User594gs57 give over they won't have much of a business left if they don't sort their suppliers out or at the very least get off their backsides and find alternative suppliers, which they don't seem to interested in doing they prefer the easy laid back life . simple rule of business if your supplier keeps letting you down find another one or look forward to bankruptcy
Just had a prostate check at my local pharmacy. Just bent me over the counter and put a rubber glove on.
Did it feel like Brexit?
And no doubt shaft harder, all for the sake of notions of sovereignty, hot hairdryers, and blue passports. @cry-rs7vv
Remember when Doctors used to COME TO YOUR HOUSE!!!??
About time to . It was always a bit ridiculous having to wait for a doctors appointment for a minor complaint so they could prescribe a medicine you’d probably used a dozen times before for the same complaint.
in your case Pyrethrin with piperonyl butoxide?? (hehe google it)
crikey me i cant get a pack of sumatriptan 20mg for migrane when i take proof that i have a regular monthly pescription from the doctor there is a milliom questions when they are for sale over the counter i dread to think what would happen if i asked for antibiotics and they are so unpleasant
Same scheme is being considered for Dentists. Instead of seeing an actual Dentist you will be able to have one of the receptionists 'have a go' this will free up Dentists valuable time so they can do more private cosmetic work (££) rather than extractions, fillings, crowns etc for common people who cant be arsed to clean their teeth.
Count me In!!!
No thanks
So pills and poison solve everything, eh? No need for a diagnosis, advice, or non-drug treatments. Terrific.
This has been the underlying message for decades
A Pharmacist told me during Covid that he spent half his time on the phone trying to get a Doctor to see patients he had looked at but could not treat.
This will only further reduce access to GPs as they will reduce the total number of GP appointments and replace them with pharmacist appointments
I want a gp appointment, not go to bloody Boots.
What could possibly go wrong?
This should be interesting, my local pharmacy (a large chain) can hardly get prescriptions correct and on time.
What as in they keep giving you the wrong drugs?! If so, I think you need to change pharmacies, if you mean they’re getting the repeats wrong, i think you might need to direct your anger at the GP…
@@SD-vn6fp no anger here, simply stating the general incompetence of the system.
Ok, but the repeat system isn’t handled by the pharmacy, that’s the GP surgeries job, the pharmacy has to wait until the GP has approved it, which is usually a lot later than when patient access has said it’s been approved .@@paul1963
Since last october my prescription every mounth has been wrong from gp or they forgot to put it in my heart bleeds for the very old with no family keeping an eye on what they are taking this will end in tears
@@christinesouth9514 exactly, it’s always the pharmacy that gets the flack, I bet 95% of the time it’s the GP surgery.
I used to get a monthly text from my GP saying that if you are sick dont come to the surgery 😅 what are we paying NI for?!!! Ffs
Yeah right. Had a water infection and had to go the GP for antibiotics. I didnt want to go of course to the docs.
£350 million per week to the NHS.....
What a load of crap. ... so, the doctors the taxes are thrown at ... are doing even less. Why bother?
Great idea except pharmacy’s are closing all over the place….boots are closing hundreds this year,independents are closing. Pharmacy’s can’t cope at the moment with just filling prescriptions, the queues will be for bloody miles 🤷♀️
Yes went into mine on Monday to be asked if I had heard they are closing
You can see a GP…? (More chance of seeing the Loch Ness Monster)
So will I get tax back the job that the gps aren’t doing now
Very good question - I feel exactly the same wsy ! With the cost of living crisis, every penny counts !
No no no they dont have the same training or background and doctors are getting lazy
Oh my soul. After living in the UK now for 8 years I finally understand why I perceive pharmacists in this country as been useless. This whole time it's been because they haven't been allowed to do anything. This whole time I just thought they were rude, disinterested and incompetent... meanwhile they were probably confused and suspicious of a foreigner who from their perspective was trying to get drugs by bypassing a GP. This still doesn't explain why my local Tesco pharmacy is slower than dealing with a government depart in South Africa.
Ignorance is never an excuse.
Well that's not true. Ignorance is very often a very valid excuse. No-one can live under the burden of trying to be right and all knowing all the time. What wouldn't be ok is if I was rude to them out of a sense of entitlement. For that there is no excuse. My thoughts about my experiences with the pharmacist have only ever been expressed to my wife. Now I have the benefit of been able to chuckle to myself about having decoded another cultural difference.
It is when it only takes a quick Google 🙄, surely after 8 years you had enough intrigue to wonder the difference, it’s not like it was trying to find out a hard piece of international law. Just think it’s a bit rude to think of a professional as useless, without looking into why @@garethhenry1981
very worrying situation they are not doctors they are pharmacists, the state of Britain today I am not surprised....all going downhill from here on
Come now, pharmacists have 5 years of training, do you seriously think they can learn about drugs without having a fairly good knowledge of the human body. These are simple conditions that pharmacists are more than capable of diagnosing and know what red flags to look out for and when to refer if needed. Doctors make it out like diagnosing is the hardest thing in the world, that may be true for some things but not for the run of the mill stuff. Give them a bit more respect, I’d like to know what you do!
My doctor is as much use as a chocolate fire guard
You must be in the Boro then 😂😂
It just reflects how it is all broken,
We pay GPs too much and they've all retired. Primary care is now in the hands of Pharmacists (who actually have some training) and Practice Receptionists (less said the better).
We caused this by being too nice.
@@Ajon886Who?
You would be lucky to get any of this at my local pharmacy. It is basically a place that just hands out repeat prescriptions. The place is full of them. The staff are very busy issuing and making up these prescriptions. I can't see them having any time to discuss your symptoms. There is a very small counter where they have some basic over the counter medication and that is it.
that should help in Derby as 5 gps walked out of a paractice in one day..during covid i saw the pharmacist and they were great.. the only disapoinment was seeing them shout to one customer waiting are you still on benefits...
I am a pharmacist and I know that pharmacists do not have the skills to diagnose.On the continent they don’t usually prescribe antibiotics as it is not appropriate, that’s a lie.
Also the training is not very good at all compared with 20 years ago.
The continuing education is poor.I can do mine in 2 hours.We don’t have any capacity to do this either because we have been hollowed out by big business who never invested.Thats why there are boxes in the consulting rooms.The staff are paid minimum wage too so are not motivated.
skills ?? you are like Amazon, pack stuff in a bag and hand it over. Ya'll should be on minimum wage and zero hour contracts.
I’m a pharmacist, these seven conditions are easy to diagnose and any red flags you can refer appropriately anyway, if you can’t do it competently perhaps it’s time to step down as a pharmacist? For too long GPS have put across that diagnosing for run of the mill things is like quantum physics, some things are hard but the consultants do that anyway…
Quite honestly i don't see GPs ever or pharmacists I've even sent my GP a note refusing my yearly blood test for stupid cancer i had years ago why i can't be arsed,so if something goes wrong ignore it thats my motto
So you talk in front of people about your personal details
These idiots think it's acceptable
Omg it takes them long enough to fill a script never mind asking them to have a look a your rash and then issue a perception. It a Drs job to diagnose not a pharmacist.
Greed plain and simple
7 conditions is nothing and this isn't even new since there are already a number of conditions pharmacists can prescribe for. Not to mention the fact you are now going to see someone with a financial incentive to prescribe.
I think its just a starting number to see if it works.
As if it doesn’t take ages in a pharmacy as it is.
During COVID, GPs discovered they could get away with not seeing patients. They are very well paid and the majority of them are part time. In my local practice of around 15 GPs only 2 work 4 days a week. The majority work 2. So the idea that there is a shortage of GPs is bunkum. There's a shortage of GP HOURS. To get an appointment, even over the phone, at our practice, you have to make a first automated contact over the internet. This contact asks you a host of general questions which are in any case on your medical records before you ever get to specifics about what you want an appointment for. As for pharmacists, this is probably the wrong time to introduce such an initiative, given the issues around so-called physicians' assistants. The suggestion that pharmacists know more about medication than some medics is correct, but refers especially to pharmacoligical composition and drug interaction. Critically, pharmacists are not trained in diagnosis. In order adequately to prescribe for 7 conditions, they will need to be trained in differential diagnosis - the exclusion of other conditions with similar presentations. Nurse practitioners have been working in GP clinics and in specialities for many years, but as well as working to specific protocols have access to advice from medical practitioners on site. You won't get that in your local Boots. And all this at a time of unprecedented missed and late diagnoses because our Government response to COVID was based on a demonstratedly incorrect statistical analysis and prediction which resulted in inappropriate approaches to protecting the vulnerable, avoidable deaths, and the destruction of our economy. Oops.
Since Covid, doctors surgeries have now become no go areas and many are difficult to even get to see your own GP. You might be lucky and get someone to ring you but not often. So let’s change the way they are paid. Pay should be linked to the number of patients they see.
HERE HERE been saying this for years they should be like Dentists and only get paid when they see you not for having you on there list I was very ill a few weeks back took ill on the friday lunch spent the weekend 24/7 in bed in great pain Monday a little better but still in pain phone Gp what do I get no calls being taken try again later got that for 4 hours gave up next time I will go to A and E did not go because silly me thinking there are people that need it more them me its about time when you have to go to A and E because you can not see your GP that your GP gets fined for taking up A and E time that would hit them were it hurts
This is fundamentally wrong. A pharmacist isn't qualified for this. Doctor's need to see patients,period.
😂 Most GP's open up Google when you go in with a problem.
Oh yeah, pharmacists only have 5 years training, you do realise you can’t learn about drugs without knowing about the human body. These are fairly simple conditions that pharmacists have been diagnosing them for decades, only to tell the patient they need a script from the GP, for them to return 2 hours later with the exact same thing the pharmacist knew they needed. Anything they can’t deal with, they’ll just refer as necessary anyway. The real problem is how under pressure pharmacies are under, I’m not sure how it’s going to happen, there is only one pharmacist in each pharmacy and every single thing has to go through them!
@@arkanianthegreatthat's certainly been my experience, the one time I actually managed to get to see a Doctor, years ago now. Makes me wonder if all their training was actually in vain ! ?
Is it true that our regulator (NICE) is 90% funded by 'big-pharma'? (rhetorical question lol)
It's all corrupt mate
Good luck with that one as there is a massive shortage of pharmacists in this country and chemist shops closing down everywhere
On average it takes me 20-30 minutes, sometimes more, to pick up my meds from Boots Chemist in Lincolnshire due to the amount of people collecting their meds too. The pharmacist is just too busy to be treating patients. I know he will if he can fit you in, but I can't see him doing that if all the doctors patients are now going to turn up in the shop. Once recently, they ran out of 10mcg tablets, I asked him to give me two 5mcg but he was not allowed to and I had to go back to the Dr to get an updated prescription! Louth where I live is growing at a really fast rate, yet they are reducing the local hospital departments and not building any new Doctor surgeries, surely that can not continue this way. Our nearest A&E is in Grimsby 25 miles or Lincoln 30 miles.
Wales are not doing this!
This Foster lady describes Europe like a country. Where exactly antibiotics are prescribed without a prescription? What is the proportion?
At this point I think all GP posts should be scrapped. They cost lots of money n no longer provide a service.
Propolis: natural antibiotics. Thyme/oregano essential oil: natural antibiotics
The PM took us on the road. 😢😢
How do I know that I have got impetigo, shingles or urinary infection? I need to see a GP to get diagnosed and then go back to a pharmacist for treatment. This is stupid. It has not been well thought out.
A pharmacist can diagnose them… they are more than capable, the problem is GPS have made it out like diagnosing is rocket science, more fool you for being taken in by them.
when a house needs to be built, don’t see an architect, see an electrician.
but are they qualified to make a doctors diagnosis???
Come now, pharmacists have 5 years of training, do you seriously think they can learn about drugs without having a fairly good knowledge of the human body. These are simple conditions that pharmacists are more than capable of diagnosing and know what red flags to look out for and when to refer if needed. Doctors make it out like diagnosing is the hardest thing in the world, that may be true for some things but not for the run of the mill stuff. Give them a bit more respect, I’d like to know what you do!
A lot of them are just as qualified or more . Have you ever had any of the new GP's having to look on their computer to find a suitable treatment. It kind of shocked me a few years back when I watched my GP doing that.
@@SD-vn6fpa lot more than Doctors currently do that's for sure ! Not a big ask, in all honesty !
Thought doctors only worked part time anyway.
At least chemist are open, but getting ones bits and pieces out is another matter 🤣. The problem now is all the foreigners going in for a kettle that’s not working means no one is going to get their script!
They do this in Australia, it’s been successful for many years and yes they do have a room to chat privately. Even in the uk most have a small private room. They also have hubs that do just blood samples and X-rays etc, these are accessed very quickly.
British latest insanity is hitting another level!, What's going to be next?
A GP can prescribe Antibiotics for a patient who doesn't even need them. It happened to my partner during Lockdown. He was also prescribed inhalers by the same completely inept money & drug wasting Doctor when he wasn't even examined by him for any kind of bronchial respiratory condition such as Asthma. I reported the situation to the Practice very concerned about this and I don't know what happened. I'd therefore feel more assured & confident going to a pharmacist.
Utter load of bollocks
Not before time, we don't all want to see GP's who don't listen anyway.
Tory britain..
You have to do that over the phone to a receptionist anyway, and my pharmacist has to deal with THOUSANDS of checks each week, on his own - it's DISCUSTING. GP's have been shocking for years now.
This isn’t unusual though. There are a number of non-doctoral professions that prescribe. Dentists, some Nurses and some Paramedics are examples. This really isn’t a story and it’s been happening for years.
Oh it's sooo much better to sit for hours to wait for some idiot to decide what you should take after he consults woth the pharmacist.
I’ve been to gp last few years and a pharmacist has always seen me or my baby, it might as well be called pharmacist appts
That’s handy, I can get drugs for an illness I’ve got but have no idea what it is
If it saves waiting 2 weeks for a doctors appointment then it’s not so bad.
Two weeks ! I wish it was such a short wait as that, but that's not even close, in my experience !
you are very lucky that you can get a appt for two weeks we can only book on the day they wont let you book inadvance would make life a lot better if they would
Next thing is, they'll be taking you through to the back room to operate on you.
I have to go to a "hatch" in the chemist to get my methadone. I find it Intrusive as everyone knows what the hatch I for ,there is no privacy.I agree with the policy there bringing out regarding pharmacists dispensing anti biotics and other meds but privacy should be respected and hopefully they put in place some sort of private area.
You used to need aproval from a doctor for certain drugs. You didn’t need to see a doctor for the Covid shot tho
So who gets done when people start dying? Overdosing on wrong meds, poisoned due to allergies and so many other ways it can go wrong. Let me rephrase not can but WILL go wrong. The brexit benefits just keep on coming.
Nothing to do with Brexit, but our Governments sheer incompetance - at least pick the correct scape goat !
@@jamesbarbour8400 Everything to do with brexit. How many Doctors, surgeons, nurses, specialists left the NHS because of brexit? Answer 23,000 this resulted in staff shortages, increased waiting lists (partly also due to the pandemic). Doctors strikes that the Tories did nothing about resulting in longer waiting lists and they need to do something to cover for it so now pharmacists can prescribe prescriptions, without being doctors as the doctors can't keep up with demand, because of ...wait for it: Shortages brought about by brexit when they all left - well that and Tory incompetence. You see how that works? Did I complete the circle well enough for you to follow or are you one of those brexiteers in denial again.
Phoning GP, you are number 40 in the quue
Money-making scheme.
A million more people coming into the country every year how shocking we can’t see a GP or be seen at a&e. Pharmacists are brilliant but they cannot take the place of doctors. Many times I’ve went to my pharmacist for help before the hassle of trying to speak to a GP they’ve never been able to help once because they are pharmacists they know about medications!
Antibiotics are you having a piss take or something like some kind of early Aprils fools joke you can get them online expensive as fu*k as well its more like a new money making scheme that's what it is
Make no mistake pharmaceutical is big business. they need the sales..cut out the middle man ,hence more profit. And create the illusion there doing a favour 😂
So it's no surprise that pharmacies are struggling and closing.as people in Britain some get help and some pay for the medical treatment.scotland get if for absolutely free those who work.and with all the Illegally entering people getting free treatment no wonder it's going burst.
You need a prescription to get antibiotics in Spain
Turkey Spain need to see a Dr for antibiotics
Wrong info pharmacy can’t do service without consultation room
Are pharmacists qualified enough to give diagnosis then? i thought thats what gp's get their qualifications for?
These are common conditions, pharmacists do 5 year of study of drugs, do you really think they can do that without learning about the human body, just think about it, before you put such an ignorant comment down. Any red flags they’ll still be able to refer to the GP, how condescending of you.
@@SD-vn6fp pardon my ignorance squire. I know little of the medical industry, but surely you can understand that it’s a fair question
@@garnhamr ignorance is no excuse, a quick google would show you a pharmacist has to do 5 years of extensive learning of drugs, do you really think they could do that without great knowledge of the human body. You don’t need medical industry knowledge, perhaps just a little more thought? Plus these are very common conditions, the problem is GPS have had the public believe diagnosis for run of the mill things is rocket science, it really isn’t, pharmacists will be able to spot red flags and refer wher appropriate if needs be.
Fine, but what about adequate diagnosis first.
What symptoms do you have?...sore throat...any others? no...go buy some throat lozenges. Think I'll add and Im shitting blood...then what, go see a GP?
Pharmacist, after 5 years of extensive study will be able to do it for minor conditions, if they see any red flags what they can’t treat they’ll refer appropriately. The problem is GPS put it across like it’s rocket science whereas run of the mill things are easy, more fool you by being blinded by it. What an ungrateful and ignorant comment
GPs don't work hard enough anyway. Avoid giving you appointments hiding behind receptionists. If you want to save people in England money you can give us free prescriptions like they get in Scotland.