Godox AD200 Softbox connector obsession the most lightweight of all
Вставка
- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- The most lightweight way of connecting a softbox to a Godox AD200 or Flashpoint Evolv 200 is this...
***Be sure to see the previous video filmed in Sedona - EPIC AD200 modifiers not requiring an S-Bracket • EPIC Godox AD200 modif...
The Universal generic square flash mount for 4 rod softboxes ... metal version www.adorama.co...
The plastic version came with the old Godox softboxes but you can still get them from AliExpress (with the softbox) www.aliexpress...
(little silver AD200 adapter) Glow Adapter for Para/Quadra/HexaPop System Softboxes to Lumedyne, Streaklight, Evolv www.adorama.co...
(black bulbous AD200 adapter) FotodioX EZ-Pro Speed Ring SR Insert for Quantum Qflash fotodioxpro.co...
(silver lightweight speedring with 12 plastic rod holders) Glow speedring for parapop www.adorama.co...
Subscribe and tell your friends about MarkusPix
My Health channel is www.thehealthyl...
See photoshoot images of Cara at www.shortsillus...
The Markus and Cara Instagram page is / markusandcara
Cara's personal Instagram is / iamcarabrotman
Markus health products (things that I use personally) www.markusproducts.com
Markus is an all-round creative individual. The swiss army knife of people.
He reminds me of Ernest Hemingway, who was very good at many things, and a complete master of one or two things. I would say Markus has mastered many things however, and has a much healthier lifestyle.
Your videos trigger all of my ADHD, but I absolutely love them! Keep them coming!
Just got my first AD200Pro a day or two ago. I'm like you and a lot of other photographers/creators in that I'm always trying to hone my tools to do things either better than what they were designed for, or just different. It's nice to see others trying to maximize their investments and getting down to the nitty gritty of what they'll enjoy using. Great channel!
The weight of each component really adds up! I bought an ad200 and a softbox umbrella and while each part is light individually, when you start rigging things up the weight creeps up on you. Thanks for sharing your findings Markus!
Exactly! I'm glad somebody gets it! Its funny how many people are defending their big clunky s-brackets and Bowens mounts. Maybe they've never hiked Bowens-mount gear for ten miles over rough terrain.
Your creative and lateral thinking is inspirational - not even just for photography stuff. I watch your videos just as much to engage that part of my brain to see the possibilities of things beyond the obvious.
Great review of the AD200 and multiple lightweight options. Big fans of the AD200, our tinkering is more inside of the box than out, but works for us. We use the Flashpoint Bowens head (Flashpoint eVOLV Dual Power Twin Head with Bowens Mount AD-B2) that can use either one or two AD200 bulbs to go with either one or two AD200 bodies. Our go-to is 90% this. An AD200 bulb is plugged into and remains part of the AD-B2 (center prong set). This eVOLV mount with an AD200 bulb remains attached to a Glow Foldable Beauty Dish (Bowens Mount, Silver, 40"), which offers great diffusion and AD200 bulb protection. With this set, the chunkiness and repeat AD200 body with bulb clamping of an S bracket system is eliminated and takes less than a minute to open up and put on a light stand. An AD200 body is then quickly clicked into the flush AD-B2 receiver slot (left slot) on the back and we are good to go. I checked the weight of this modifier combo (without an AD200 body), and including the travel cover weighs in at roughly 4.5lbs/2.04kg. Might be a show stopper for some, but might be an option too. Applaud your immense experience, knowledge and time Markus that you extend to all of us in the craft, many thanks.
I have several AD-B2s, I showed them here ua-cam.com/video/rB8y2Tec9Pg/v-deo.html but I never use them. Way too heavy and bulky for me. At that point, I might as well use an AD600 (which I often do), almost the same size and weight but more powerful. I ONLY grab AD200s when I want to be as small, portable and lightweight as possible and the ADB2 setup is definitely not lightweight or small, just like an S-bracket, which is why I made the recent video showing the most lightweight portable softboxes that attach right to the front of the AD200 without any of the hassle or weight. Iua-cam.com/video/WeFt5FkWXfU/v-deo.html
@@MarkusPix Sure thing. I understand that your scalability to smaller options is for lightest and most compact for your travel and location requirements (possibly others). The options I provided we do not find cumbersome or heavy for our uses. Unlike our prior S bracket use, we find that the click and go of the AD200 body into the AD-B2 a welcome reprieve from holding the body to a non fixed distance into the modifier and then screwing the body clamps into place. Albeit it comes at a cost of weight, it reduces (for us) the hassle factor and delivers repeatability.
I love that your into making your gear to it's lightest as possible, for humping to distant lands (or in the backyard). Great stuff as usual Mr. Markus!
I love the idea of gluing the washer onto toe studs. I was a machinist for several years and videos like this is right up my alley. Thanks
I looked into an AD200 a few days ago, after your video about them. I've wanted one for a while, but the prices were a bit high when they first came out. Well, they're still too high for my wallet. I have three of the Canon radio-controlled flashes, and I like all the cool things they can do, so I'll continue using those. I haven't really done any photography for a year, since my sister who's going through a divorce had to move in with me. Another big strain on the old wallet. The AD200 is definitely not something I need. I just think that Godox has really come out with some great equipment, lately, and the AD200 is such a cool form factor with lots of power. Maybe when she moves out and I start shooting again. Thanks for showing all of the modifiers and connections for the flash. This will all come in handy.
Fantastic, thoughtful and very helpful Markus. I just wish here in the UK we could buy the QF35, but you have given us many ideas for our own DIY versions. thank you.
You are incredible! Thank you for all your searches. It helps a lot.
It's so rare to see such a dedication to something else than ultimate quality even at the expense of fun and ease of use. I did myself weigh everything down to smallest adapters and bought several lightstands only to see, which would be the best mix of stability, portability and reach. Spoiler: Lastolite/Manfrotto LS1159 won. Almost 3m up, air cushioning, very wide reach of legs, quite solid for any portable gear, and finally neither weighs a lot at 1.3kg nor folds to anything excessively long at around 84cm. Everything else I've checked/read about either feels like a monopod because of short legs or is a lot heavier.
A topic related to AD200 that is still not spoken of is mounting the light itself to lightstand. Believe me, story does not end with ditching S-bracket...
My name is Markus and I have OSLD (Obsessive Speedring Lightness Disorder). HA J/K Markus. I love your content and I don't know of any other channel where I could find the information you present. This is all so good to know when weight matters. I will say there is an advantage to keeping some decent weight in a lighting setup - and that has to do with the inevitable wind factor. I'm definitely not bringing sandbags to all locations and rarely have an assistant to hold the light stand so having some amount of weight is handy so it doesn't go toppling over when someone exhales next to it. That said, keep this up because your channel is filled with golden nuggets like this one.
A 2 lb speedring assembly at the top of a light stand will not keep a softbox from blowing over. Securing light stand video next.
I very much like your solutions for the AD200 & AD360
....But I still like S Brackets to use as well because I use the S-Bracket as the medium to bare the load of the modifier.
For traveling using smaller modifers... That's when I'd use your solution most.
Brilliant! You're like a kid in a toy store. Good stuff!
I am!
Because of you......and your splendid vids i got myself an AD200 pro, AD-S7 and AD-S2 ;) Keep up the good work Marcus!
Great Video. You are helping me make my AD200 more portable!
I enjoy with ad360 II and ad-s7 or 48” Godox deep umbrella. Both vero good! Somothimes I use a 16” trasparent umbrella with ad-s2 or a 18” beauty dish with S-bracket… but it’s boring
I don’t use studios and I don’t have patience for other modifier
Lite and portable; yes. I am getting older and small, lighter and more portable, are big interests for me. Thanks.
very useful video! Quantum Instruments QF35 Octa Softbox Kit + Glow SpeedRing Adapter to fit Flashpoint Budget Flash Mount
I enjoyed it 😁 I got the ad200 cause of you 🙌🏽
Thank you. Just bought a Godox AD200Pro. Going to order a few Quantums. Already have a few Quantum Q Flashes.
u do my job , no need to double think , THank U markus
Thank you, thank you. You're sooo like me but I've only just heard of the Quantum brand. Thanks for that.
Another GREAT Video!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks again for the great ideas I’ll be using.
Here’s another adapter for the evolv 200.
ADORAMA EXCLUSIVE
Flashpoint Streaklight Umbrella Reflector Kit
SKU: FPBDHUSL MFR: SL-BDUH
Mind blowing, my wheels are turning!
Thank you for sharing.. Looking to buy some accessories for the AD200.
Fun video, as usual!
That bracket that you spray-painted silver features the "Universal" strobe mount. There are numerous inexpensive strobes that are made to accept that mount.
Also, some "twist-flat" softboxes will squeeze right onto the front of that bracket, without any other pieces.
By the way, that bracket accepts barndoor wings.
by "twist-flat"- do you mean this ua-cam.com/video/WeFt5FkWXfU/v-deo.html if so, the photodiox adapter I show is much simpler and easier for the AD200 or 360
@@MarkusPix
Yes. That is a "twist-flat" soft box.
The advantage of the universal bracket is it's versatility. It can fit on a few different strobes. It accepts both twist-flat and rod type soft boxes. It allows one to move the light source deeper into the soft box, and it accepts barndoors.
With the barndoor wings, one can "cut" the direct light or one can easily clip diffusion gels (and/or colors) to create a smaller "soft box."
I love to watch your videos even if I do not need it today I might need it tomorrow.
I'm *trying* to do a similar thing with my adapters. I'm a photographer and getting into continuous lighting for headshots. I don't want to go away from bowens mount to the godox mini mount completely because then my ad200s / flashes won't fit when I need to freeze motion. I *hate* s-brackets as well, but I use them with speedlights.
I have an ML-60 with the godox mini mount, and I rigged the ad300/400 bowens adapter to it. I had to shave two notches down with a utility knife, but it works!
I love the handle with the npf battery plate, but it seems pointless to use it with an s2 bracket and then have nowhere to secure the batteries. So yeah, I'm down the rabbit hole at this point!
I'm currently looking for a solution to go from godox mini mount (ad300/400) to bowens. It seems so simple, but I've yet to find a true adapter. The answer of "just use an s2 bracket" works ok for an ad300/400, but when you have two large npf batteries dangling, it makes a lot less sense.
The reason they stopped making the plastic version of the “budget speeding” with four screws is they couldn’t take the stress of the softbox rods for very long and would break. So now, just the metal one is available since I have been looking. Might be available used however.
love your passion 💯
Applause to the persistent pursuit of usability in light modifiers. In your last video, you showed us how umbrellas actually produce very soft lights. In my view, there is another big advantage to the reflective umbrellas, in that you can position them higher than the light-stand. With softbox type modifiers where the light source is positioned towards the subject, the modifier is angled down from the top of the light-stand, requiring a light-stand that is tall enough to accommodate the model's height.
Can you do a video that compares the bulk and usability of softboxes vs reflective umbrellas, with the whole set including the light-stands?
The Tim Taylor of photography!!
Great advice! I'm definitely going to look into this.
I've also been OBSESSED with small/lightweight equipment for a decade and have collected a decent amount of tripods/stands and adapters and I'm so happy to see you made this video. Also unrelated but I've got a 3D printer, and I wonder if there'd be a simple design made out of only plastic that could both support the AD200 (or any rectangular flash) AND the Bowens mount at the same time, and weigh almost nothing.
Since you are an artistically creative person who is good with computer animation just buy a 3D printer and make your custom lightweight adapters for all your camera equipment.
File a patent and license out your designs to those who may want to mass-produce your designs and you will have more money to buy more photography equipment 😁
Markus any idea how to DIY mount or adapt a Flashpoint Xplor 600 strobe to an Angler Fastbox? I'm sure you know the Fastbox is the collapsible type that uses a specific mount for different flash models. I like how convenient the fastbox is an was hoping somehow to retrofit with my larger strobe. Thanks for your time.
This is why I like umbrella softboxes. Just need a small lightweight adapter to mount everything onto a lightstand.
Agreed. Did you see the recent video? ua-cam.com/video/WeFt5FkWXfU/v-deo.html
@@MarkusPix Yes, I did. Thanks for sharing all your experiences.
Good vid! Now time to get your light stands down in weight!
You're missing a key equation here. The speed ring holds all of the weight and transfers it to the tripod. The AD200 holds no weight. By using these larger modifiers attached to a quantum mount- you are transferring all of that "reduced weight" to the front of the AD200. I'm sure it will support it for a while but thats a lot of leverage on a very small connection.
All the modifiers I showed in the last video (did you see it?) ua-cam.com/video/WeFt5FkWXfU/v-deo.html are definitely not too heavy for that mount or else Quantum would never have created it. It's a legitimate mount designed to hold modifiers (within reason of course) The ones I showed weigh almost nothing, and none of the ones I featured put too much strain on the mount, I've been using them for over a decade under the toughest of situations. If I was going to use big heavy softboxes, I would not be using the AD200 anyway. Lightweight and portable is what the 200 was created for and that's how I'm showing how to keep it.
@@MarkusPix I completely understand that the ones designed for that mount would be fine. Maybe I recalled incorrectly that in yesterday's video you were using an adapter that you modified I ordered to use other, heavier softboxes on the AD200. All I have is an AD200 and speedlights- so I do use the AD200 with larger softboxes. I appreciate you and your channel ! And I love your perspective
You could make that plastic four screw thing even lighter ... Attach a flat plate with industrial velcro and stick a bunch of that on the ad200 ... No screws just atrach and go
You should get a 3D printer and make plastic copies of anything metal/aluminum. In the motorcycle hobby, guys often reproduce parts using a printer and they seem to work just fine so I’m wondering how well it work in your applications.
Thank you for your work.
If counting the S2 bracket for hiking, you really need to also count the weight of the light stand too!
ua-cam.com/video/nJjMPHhuoXQ/v-deo.html methinks you are missing the point. You need a light stand either way. None of these modifiers require an S-Bracket so you're saving a pound of weight
@@MarkusPix yeah, fair enough. I was thinking that you could hand-hold the AD200 with the softbox attached vs using the bracket, but that's a weird difference, you're right.
Oh I see, yes of course you could hand hold it, if its a small enough modifier
lite and portable in some cases but I think that in others you're putting a lot of weight on the unit......useful
The S bracket that you show will fit directly into the Godox soft box that you have without going to a Bowens adapter. Try fitting it direct into the soft box, then add the AD200.
Charley Charley Charley, and what exactly is that part called at the back of the softbox? A SPEEDRING. ... and how much does it weigh? Now add that weight to the weight of the S-bracket for the total weight of the connector assembly. Now compare that to the weight of the ones I show in this video... hence the whole purpose of this video. Maybe you missed this part of the video ua-cam.com/video/IQOl0fw5cXE/v-deo.html
@@MarkusPix But you can fit the S clamp into the place on the soft box where you place a speedring and not use a speedring at all. No Bowens mount either. The wire frame folding soft boxes by Godox will work with just the plastic S clamp and no speed ring. Fit one in, in place of the speedring and you will see what I mean. The wire frame of the soft box will hold it fine.
Oh the droopy one lol. My least favorite, weighs more than all the others (at least 4 times more than the GrandBox Pro which is even bigger), droops down, can't be positioned accurately, bulky in luggage, takes up much more space than the other ones I featured. If you like those so much, then the Photodiox adapter can be used to attach to front of box, which weighs much less and is much smaller than an s-bracket ua-cam.com/video/WeFt5FkWXfU/v-deo.html
Good night Markus.
I love your videos and how easy it is to understand things.
A question.
Where can I buy the accessories and adapters in Spain for Godox Ad 200Pro.
Thanks.
I don't know. I would have to come to Spain to find out
Yahoo my man
i only have a few years with godox speedlites (v860's and ad200's) and i am confused at why you don't like the s2 brackets? so far, i have been able to mount any modifier i have without the extra bowens mount.
don't get me wrong,, love your videos!
Because I travel a lot and need the smallest, most lightweight compact ready to use stuff. Did you see this video ua-cam.com/video/WeFt5FkWXfU/v-deo.html
Hi! Thanks for the video, great info as usual. Does anyone know how to get the (little silver AD200 adapter) Glow Adapter for Para/Quadra/HexaPop System Softboxes to Lumedyne, Streaklight, Evolv in EUROPE ? I only found it in Adorama and they don't ship to Europe. :(
Hey Marcus, I’m looking for a light to light for ground isolation for landscape photography,it would need to be something I could carry in a back pack or pouch. What would you recommend. Thank you.
I am not a flash photographer, so I'm not going to be a part of this giveaway, and I hope others who don't need this equipment can follow suit. GOOD LUCK EVERYONE WHO ENTERS!!
You are lord of the rings 😅
hahaha
That is a great modification Markus.
Was the adhesive Epoxy?
yes 2 part 5 min epoxy, although I heard adding baking soda to crazy glue works great also for instant hardening thick stuff
LOL Love it :)
When you forgo the S-bracket, how are you attaching the AD200 to a tripod?
The AD200 comes with its own bracket amzn.to/4aQnjUy
5:30 - for the Quantum QF35, do you attach the small reflector plate in the middle? What about the diffuser fabric? Any difference in light output/quality if you don't attach those things? Just wondering how you usually use it. Thanks.
I never use the deflector plate on small AD200 softboxes and usually just one layer diffusion. I do however use the deflector on large modifiers with the AD600 like here ua-cam.com/video/_yr_wnmaGvU/v-deo.html
One thing I don't think you've mentioned is the light stand adapter, from the light stand to the AD200. That is probably a couple of ounces for that setup that is already part of the bowens mount speed ring adapter.
The AD200 already comes with one. Even with no modifier at all, you'd still need it www.adorama.com/fplfxp0038.html
@@MarkusPix Why why why can they not put an umbrella screw on that adapter!?!?!?! C'mon guys.
@@MarkusPix oh, you would use it with the Bowens Speedlite adapter too? I was thinking that would be redundant. But either way, it's size and weight or negligible.
Love your in-depth videos. Your tech and art skills are each unbelievable. To have both at that level is just amazing. (not to mention health knowledge). And that you take the time to share and teach others, I can go on and on. Just letting you know you are appreciated by us viewers.
@@MarkusPix this adapter is AD-E2 and it is garbage, it's better to use AD-E (older version), as it locks and does not drop all the way like the other.
There is an umbrella hole and hold-tight thingy
I wish they made a Bowens to Godox mount adapter LOL...TBH, the entire photography lighting mounting set up a very antiquated and old. It really needs an entire overall to bring up to the 21st century. LMFAO
You mean something to attach a bowens softbox to a light with godox mount? They have those.
I hate the built-in mount if the godox. I attached an accesory and it's imposible to remove it 😔. I don't know how the heck it got stucked....
I never have that problem.
The Quantum QF35 seems like a no-brainer for the AD200. But does it still mount on a light stand?
Of course. The AD200 mounts to the light stand and the QF35 attaches to the front of the AD200. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1337404-REG/quantum_instruments_qf35_octa_softbox_kit.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gclid=CjwKCAjwzY2bBhB6EiwAPpUpZh1-452QbZykgavU5ee4VFUhoMxy7u7P1OBgy8A_u6j5FIYd95gBpBoCThsQAvD_BwE
Do you have a solution for how to carry 3 light stands and a tripod together easily?
Did you not see the recent video? ua-cam.com/video/WeFt5FkWXfU/v-deo.html I demonstrate exactly that halfway through the video
Is there any bracket like the s-tyoe bracket that can take two ad200 with the speed light type head on??
MagRing 2 from MagnetMod.
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1353389-REG/godox_ad_b2_ad200_dual_power_flash.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gclid=CjwKCAjwzY2bBhB6EiwAPpUpZi_tMT17_TfRHv0ITsEBeJvQ5k6o0lAT3NNW3sCjtfqcDrFLzZ39qhoCWaUQAvD_BwE
I need my sunglass. Markus is too bright for me!
Bravo Liked#7!!!
u're cool
When you eliminate the S bracket what tilt head do you use to connect the AD200 to the light stand?
the one the AD200 already comes with www.adorama.com/fplfxp0038.html
@@MarkusPix Ah man, bought my AD200 used. It didn't come with the adaptor. ☹
I did a similar thing for the ML-30 / ML-60 to add a bowens mount without using an S2 bracket: ua-cam.com/video/oIr72V3g6l0/v-deo.html , I've actually taken it a step further and I'm working on the follow-up video, it involves drilling holes and grinding down a speedring haha
You completely missed the magomd with magsphere. That is lighter, more compact, and portable than any of your setup.
ua-cam.com/video/djVpocUSiMs/v-deo.html
The AD-200 flash head area was NEVER meant to bare the weight of a large modifier…just saying.
Yes but the ones I use hardly weigh anything and they work fine ua-cam.com/video/WeFt5FkWXfU/v-deo.html just saying
I wonder if you are a weight obsessed bicyclist as well?🤔
no, just a guy who doesnt want to hike to exotic locations with heavy gear
@@MarkusPix Have Cara carry the heavy stuff.🤣
She has her costumes and makeup which is just as much
This is getting out of hand Markus 😬
My mom started saying that when I was a child
u do my job , no need to double think , THank U markus