I know the B23-7’s weren’t exactly popular… but it still makes my day to see that old Southern power leading long hood forward, the way it was intended.
I really like Lhoist's livery. Super clean and classy look with white and grey and then the sky blue hand rails, logo & stripe. The splash of safety yellow on the end handrails and steps just really pops as well. Not what I would have expected from a mining company. Thank you for acquainting me with this awesome shortline. Great video!
Pretty neat knowing a locomotive belonged to a class one then rebuilt for an industry and still remaining in its home territory. Another high hood saved from scrap. Not many of them left.
I've always been a fan of high hoods. I'm glad to see that some are getting a new lease on life through rebuild programs. Great video! Thanks for posting!
@17:55 The yellow structure next to the tracks is a concrete form used when lining the tunnel. Looks like there is still a switch connecting the siding it is on to the main.
I always loved high, short hooded locomotives. They look more brutish. My favourites are the EMD GP-7, 9, 18 and SD-40. I like when such engines are run long hood forward. 11:49 There are no guard rails on the bridge and it's curved too.
i love high hoods, there's something about them that makes them stand out from the rest, thank you lhoist north america and thank you delay and block productions for this wonderful documentary
My grandfather was an engineer on the TC, based at Emory Gap. Our house is within line of sight and certainly earshot of the Emory Gap yard. I spent some time in that yard as a kid. A family friend was the last telegrapher on regular duty at Emory Gap. My grandfather made that run to Crab Orchard many times. One of the highest wooden trestles on that line is visible from the east bound lane of I-40 about at Ozone. As you note, lots of trestles up there. I can remember my grandfather being called to run the crane engine for what was probably the last big derailment up around Ozone, where the track is pretty near - and on a higher grade - than the old 2 lane US Hwy 70 that runs between Rockwood and Crab Orchard/Crossville.
There was a time on the Long Island Railroad,when there was Alco C420's,and EMD GP38-2's,running side by side! They were used on push-pull passengers,and freight! The C420's were high hood,and the last of their breed,and I don't even know if any survived past the millennium! Oh,yes,those GE B23-7's were the 1900 series on Conrail! The NS,and CSX split the series,and again,just how many survived?? Thanks for an excellent production,and gorgeous scenery,gosh Tennessee is real God's country! Thank you 😇 😊!!
It's like seeing an old friend. I've worked on and helped maintain that unit for a bunch of years. Our system paint-shop at NS CDS (Chattanooga), does pretty work. No brag, just fact, I designed the 27 pin MU change-over adapter box to clear off the running-board to apply the ditch-light stands, and to run conduit up the side, under the cab floor for the ditch lights project. (I promised God I would ALWAYS give Him the credit for the designs He gives me. It always works right).
Starting out on the Southern back in '75 , I more than likely ran this locomotive when it had the Black Tux livery,and still had the new locomotive smell. The Travler sez hello old friend. Glad to see you still got that high hood.
I love seeing these fun videos about my now local railroad, since I live now across the street and up the mountain from Lhoist at the nearby Renegade Mountain.
I built an HO scale Great Northern high-hood GP60 in the old green and orange with yellow stripe paint scheme. I thought it would look pretty cool but it just didn’t have the same effect as the round-roofed geeps. I stripped it down and painted it in the more basic stripe-less scheme of the later 60’s and it looked much better. I considered Big Sky Blue and I think the next one will be wearing it.
Nice drone work, by the way. I've been through that Willett tunnel with my grandfather. Some familiar territory from my past on this one. Not many are aware of the history of the TC and its impact on rail history and the economy of the area.
hello Drayton . I am new to this channel . so clicking on the first video of this channel . I am quit amazed with the footages . especially the drone ones . what a nice locomotive that is . this is right thing save legends from scrapyard and giving them power to ride the rails again . thank you for the video .🙂🙂
And to think that in the era of Southern Railways steam trip in the 1980's , they ran rare F Units over this trackage , while the steam engine was turned and serviced at Rockwood. Have it on Kodachrome slides ! Once , they used GP -30 's . Great time !!
I saw where Lhoist bought out the Spinks clay company in Henry, TN near my hometown of Paris, TN, but there they use the K&WT (Kentucky & West Tennessee) Railway to haul their product.
I live close by and drive past the old 3029. Glad to see them getting a nice refreshed locomotive. Its a beautiful line that climbs the mountain out of rockwood.
Its great to see. They saved another high hood. I can still remember seeing a few GP's and SD40's still in southern paint. When I was a kid. Being near Southerns L line. Im familiar with that Lhoist facility. I used to pick up lime there occasionally. And deliver in West Virginia.
@@sbrunner69 Didn't notice the photo you mentioned. The Southern and the N&W ran long hood forward until the mid 80's for what we understood to be collision safety. Both roads opted for the short high hood long after most roads had done away with them. After the mid 80's low hoods were purchased supposedly due to increased cost for the high hood. Low hood designated as front shortly after. Recollect some high hoods were chopped when rebuilt.
Awesome Bro Like the sound of the Nathan p5 horn on 5206 Like the new look on the locomotive That's very cool Hope you have a awesome weekend Matthew and James says hi to you 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻
Please excuse my ignorance. Why would anyone want a locomotive with a high hood? It seems to that it just obscures a great deal of the engineer's and conductor's forward vision. I noticed that the black locomotives in the lead not only have a low hood but that it slopes down to the sides which has to help forward vision. Sorry, but I've been wondering about this for several years.
7:26. Crab orchard plant. Can you let us know how deep inside the mountain do those tunnels go? I've been trucking on I 40 since 030595 and always wondered that. Thxs ❤❤❤❤❤
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A 3 banger consist hauling 15 empty hoppers at 20 mph. Even on a 2% grade seems like a bit of over kill. The locomotives weight more than the cars. On a 2% grade that consist with one geep would only require about 25,000 pounds of tractive effort and 600 horsepower at 20 mph.
Thank you, Drayton, for documenting the arrival and first trip of Lhoist North America's newest locomotive EMD GP38-2 #5206, It is nice to see that Lhoist North America is adding addition motive power to their fleet. However, I hope that this will not be the death knell for the GE units.
I’ve been a railfan my whole life, but only recently started purposely going out to watch trains run, as I am 20 and have time do so now. Living in Knoxville TN myself, how do you know when these types of trains run? I would love to see them in action in person. Any advice would be greatly appreciated by me, and thank you for reading=)
Awesome. Wish you do Tennessee Central line that be awesome. I've seen them going by their in Semi on 40 . I'm TC fan and know location of hidden speeder TC once owned guy has vast collection caboose. I got Southern Road trailer Sign from owner
I'm guessing it has to do with spare parts. GE's have never been popular on or with the used locomotive market in North America, and with the vast majority of Dash 7's built either scraped or rebuilt and shipped off to Central America, along with the fact Dash 7 parts are likely becoming scarce and expensive (have NO idea if GE even makes spare parts for Dash 7's), whereas EMD spare parts are quite readily available from a number of suppliers in the used and rebuilt locomotive market.
Eh it looks tovweird to me that locomotive I’m a fan of emd and ge but I prefer emd is GP40s and SD40s as well as there SD70s series is like the Macs and Ace is I’d even take a non high hood versions of the GP38-3s but maybe I’m just not a high hood kinda guy I guess still cool video love your work
The last time I heard it, it still had its Southern style horn ( P5 I think it's called, but it wasn't running LHF ) . Could be a different horn for the backup move.
When i worked at Railnet we had B23-7s....the mechanic had a hard time getting parts as GE manufactures like a car company and discontinues parts after 20 years. Countrys like Brasil buying a good 94 percent of the C30-7s and B models as well as peru and columbia you can say they hoarded everything....
I hope the GE’s are kept around longer. I hate to be a negative ninny, but with the addition of 5206, I’m willing to bet that it’s the beginning of the end of the GE high hoods.
@@DelayInBlockProductionsnot exactly what I was talking about. I was talking about them adding the extra unit to the roster so they can run bigger trains.
@@AndreiTupolev from what the video implied, this unit's turbo was removed during rebuilding... I don't know, I'll rewatch this video again just to be sure. But the turbo whine in that EMD was either muted or gone...
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Good to see that classic high hoods are still being rebuilt and continue to live on.
I know the B23-7’s weren’t exactly popular… but it still makes my day to see that old Southern power leading long hood forward, the way it was intended.
I really like Lhoist's livery. Super clean and classy look with white and grey and then the sky blue hand rails, logo & stripe. The splash of safety yellow on the end handrails and steps just really pops as well. Not what I would have expected from a mining company. Thank you for acquainting me with this awesome shortline. Great video!
I agree with you. Thanks for watching! -Drayton
great paint make up for the engine she ain't? 🤣 I'm thinking more it;s all going to scrap/recycle vs. repower and repair
You're right, their livery is classy. I liked it ever since the first time i saw it. One would think it was a financial company looking at the logo
Pretty neat knowing a locomotive belonged to a class one then rebuilt for an industry and still remaining in its home territory. Another high hood saved from scrap. Not many of them left.
I've always been a fan of high hoods. I'm glad to see that some are getting a new lease on life through rebuild programs. Great video! Thanks for posting!
@17:55 The yellow structure next to the tracks is a concrete form used when lining the tunnel. Looks like there is still a switch connecting the siding it is on to the main.
I always loved high, short hooded locomotives. They look more brutish. My favourites are the EMD GP-7, 9, 18 and SD-40. I like when such engines are run long hood forward.
11:49 There are no guard rails on the bridge and it's curved too.
Drayton, fantastic video as always my friend!
-Sam
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
i love high hoods, there's something about them that makes them stand out from the rest, thank you lhoist north america and thank you delay and block productions for this wonderful documentary
Man that drone shot at 13-- across the bridge is amazing!
My grandfather was an engineer on the TC, based at Emory Gap. Our house is within line of sight and certainly earshot of the Emory Gap yard. I spent some time in that yard as a kid. A family friend was the last telegrapher on regular duty at Emory Gap. My grandfather made that run to Crab Orchard many times. One of the highest wooden trestles on that line is visible from the east bound lane of I-40 about at Ozone. As you note, lots of trestles up there. I can remember my grandfather being called to run the crane engine for what was probably the last big derailment up around Ozone, where the track is pretty near - and on a higher grade - than the old 2 lane US Hwy 70 that runs between Rockwood and Crab Orchard/Crossville.
these drone bridge shots are incredible! Blows my mind! Great Job Capturing this!
Really sharp looking! BUT ...they better keep them CLEAN!! dont let them look like CSX locos!
It’s a good day when delay in block uploads a video. Been watching for years now! Always great content
Glad you enjoy it! Thanks so much for watching, Luke.
@@DelayInBlockProductionsis this the end for the B23-7’s?
Picture quality and information overall was excellent👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Great to hear your voice!!
nice video Drayton good NARRATION
Great video, well filmed.👍🎥👍👍👍😊
Honestly I quite like the high hood with duel beacon design
Knoxville did a great job of making it look professional.
You've got it! 👍
There was a time on the Long Island Railroad,when there was Alco C420's,and EMD GP38-2's,running side by side! They were used on push-pull passengers,and freight! The C420's were high hood,and the last of their breed,and I don't even know if any survived past the millennium! Oh,yes,those GE B23-7's were the 1900 series on Conrail! The NS,and CSX split the series,and again,just how many survived?? Thanks for an excellent production,and gorgeous scenery,gosh Tennessee is real God's country! Thank you 😇 😊!!
Great video. Wonderful shots. Too bad you could not get the falls on video. :)
It's like seeing an old friend. I've worked on and helped maintain that unit for a bunch of years. Our system paint-shop at NS CDS (Chattanooga), does pretty work.
No brag, just fact, I designed the 27 pin MU change-over adapter box to clear off the running-board to apply the ditch-light stands, and to run conduit up the side, under the cab floor for the ditch lights project. (I promised God I would ALWAYS give Him the credit for the designs He gives me. It always works right).
Great video once again. I'll definitely have to check these guys out at some point.
very interesting that a slug was in the consist at 3:12. NS 919. Those seem fairly rare these days.
Really enjoyed the video. It’s cool seeing the high hoods still being used.
23:57. Got a nice side by side of sequential car numbers.
Starting out on the Southern back in '75 , I more than likely ran this locomotive when it had the Black Tux livery,and still had the new locomotive smell. The Travler sez hello old friend. Glad to see you still got that high hood.
I love seeing these fun videos about my now local railroad, since I live now across the street and up the mountain from Lhoist at the nearby Renegade Mountain.
I don't think you can find a more picturesque branch line. Marvelous videography. DIB always keeps the bar high.
Awesome video!
Thanks!
I built an HO scale Great Northern high-hood GP60 in the old green and orange with yellow stripe paint scheme. I thought it would look pretty cool but it just didn’t have the same effect as the round-roofed geeps. I stripped it down and painted it in the more basic stripe-less scheme of the later 60’s and it looked much better. I considered Big Sky Blue and I think the next one will be wearing it.
Nice drone work, by the way. I've been through that Willett tunnel with my grandfather. Some familiar territory from my past on this one. Not many are aware of the history of the TC and its impact on rail history and the economy of the area.
Very cool! Thanks for watching.
Excellent footage. I love the high hoods.
I’m so glad Drayton is back to narrating the episodes himself
hello Drayton . I am new to this channel . so clicking on the first video of this channel . I am quit amazed with the footages . especially the drone ones . what a nice locomotive that is . this is right thing save legends from scrapyard and giving them power to ride the rails again . thank you for the video .🙂🙂
Excellent camera work. Top notch production.
Great video! Love all your Lhoist videos, had never heard of that railroad until your videos. Great scenery and paint scheme, and unique locomotives.
Thanks so much for watching!
And to think that in the era of Southern Railways steam trip in the 1980's , they ran rare F Units over this trackage , while the steam engine was turned and serviced at Rockwood. Have it on Kodachrome slides ! Once , they used GP -30 's . Great time !!
I saw where Lhoist bought out the Spinks clay company in Henry, TN near my hometown of Paris, TN, but there they use the K&WT (Kentucky & West Tennessee) Railway to haul their product.
Always love a good Lhoist update.
I live close by and drive past the old 3029. Glad to see them getting a nice refreshed locomotive. Its a beautiful line that climbs the mountain out of rockwood.
Its great to see. They saved another high hood. I can still remember seeing a few GP's and SD40's still in southern paint. When I was a kid. Being near Southerns L line. Im familiar with that Lhoist facility. I used to pick up lime there occasionally. And deliver in West Virginia.
Awesome work as always Drayton!!
Thanks again!
Sad that NS coupdn't deliver it with numberboards with matching typefaces.
Off the top.of my head the Geep 38 looks as it may have been a former Southern/NS unit. If so originally, the long hood was designated as front.
There is an F on the corner of the long hood at 10:33 so it’s likely a Southern/NS unit.
They showed a picture of it from 1993 in NS livery. ?????
@@sbrunner69 Didn't notice the photo you mentioned. The Southern and the N&W ran long hood forward until the mid 80's for what we understood to be collision safety. Both roads opted for the short high hood long after most roads had done away with them. After the mid 80's low hoods were purchased supposedly due to increased cost for the high hood. Low hood designated as front shortly after. Recollect some high hoods were chopped when rebuilt.
I'd be incredibly impressed with LNA if they're able to keep that beautiful blue & white paint job clean.
This is a really sad video, I suppose it is what you call progress? Great video as usual Drayton 🙏
Awesome Bro
Like the sound of the Nathan p5 horn on 5206
Like the new look on the locomotive
That's very cool
Hope you have a awesome weekend
Matthew and James says hi to you 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻
Always liked high hoods but never understood why they even made them since there isnt much visibility
Nor why they ran them long hood forward which greatly decreased what little visibility they had
Please excuse my ignorance. Why would anyone want a locomotive with a high hood? It seems to that it just obscures a great deal of the engineer's and conductor's forward vision. I noticed that the black locomotives in the lead not only have a low hood but that it slopes down to the sides which has to help forward vision. Sorry, but I've been wondering about this for several years.
Those are really cool. Don't see those in Oklahoma too often...or ever...
7:26. Crab orchard plant. Can you let us know how deep inside the mountain do those tunnels go? I've been trucking on I 40 since 030595 and always wondered that. Thxs ❤❤❤❤❤
Awesome video
Looking at 18:40 ... I'm missing the EOTD at the end of the train. Is this all part of a switching?
Adoro assistir vídeo desse trecho! Parabéns pela produção! Abraços do Brasil🇧🇷
A very magnificent train.🤠👍
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Glad you enjoyed it!
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I'm 58 and I have always enjoyed watching
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I live and still do, Thank You.🤠👍🇺🇲
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"If you're a GE fan". I can't even conceive of such a thing. How? Why?
A 3 banger consist hauling 15 empty hoppers at 20 mph. Even on a 2% grade seems like a bit of over kill. The locomotives weight more than the cars. On a 2% grade that consist with one geep would only require about 25,000 pounds of tractive effort and 600 horsepower at 20 mph.
Really hope they keep or save those old high hood GEs as they slowly get replaced
Thank you, Drayton, for documenting the arrival and first trip of Lhoist North America's newest locomotive EMD GP38-2 #5206, It is nice to see that Lhoist North America is adding addition motive power to their fleet. However, I hope that this will not be the death knell for the GE units.
I had no idea they made a high-hood GP38-2. Nice looking machine
There were over 250 built.
Thank you, @@DelayInBlockProductions
I’ve been a railfan my whole life, but only recently started purposely going out to watch trains run, as I am 20 and have time do so now. Living in Knoxville TN myself, how do you know when these types of trains run? I would love to see them in action in person. Any advice would be greatly appreciated by me, and thank you for reading=)
The best thing to do is be trackside in Crab Orchard around 8:30AM Central. They usually run M-W-F and are an easy chase!
@@DelayInBlockProductionsthank you so much for the response, I greatly appreciate it=)
Also think about a scanner. That along with learning yje mile post markers (online maps) will get you good planning info for the day.
@@sbrunner69 Thanks for the help^-^
The drone footage is awesome to watch! Is there a reason why Southern wanted high hoods, like safety or something else?
Do NOT fuel means scrapping these unique locomotives. Sad the sd60s are being scrapped
3043 sure looks like a GP35 to me.
It was built as a GP35 but internally, it’s now a GP40-3.
WHAAAAAAT? High Hoods = Happiness? UGHH! Drayton, you must be sniffing diesel fumes.
I love their color scheme!
Awesome. Wish you do Tennessee Central line that be awesome. I've seen them going by their in Semi on 40 . I'm TC fan and know location of hidden speeder TC once owned guy has vast collection caboose. I got Southern Road trailer Sign from owner
I'm guessing it has to do with spare parts. GE's have never been popular on or with the used locomotive market in North America, and with the vast majority of Dash 7's built either scraped or rebuilt and shipped off to Central America, along with the fact Dash 7 parts are likely becoming scarce and expensive (have NO idea if GE even makes spare parts for Dash 7's), whereas EMD spare parts are quite readily available from a number of suppliers in the used and rebuilt locomotive market.
Lhoist North America gets a high hood GP38-2 . LNAX #5206 is heading home to Lhoist. That's a good chase.
28:36 is what could have been had the Tallulah Falls survived
Doesn't the 4023 have a bell or has it been relocated?
The bell was relocated to the conductor’s side of the fuel tank, near the cab.
Do they not use dynamic brakes on the way down this line with the loads?
They do.
Strange horn on the 4023
It uses a semi-truck horn as the train horns are often damaged by the hanging tree limbs.
Now that's old-school, cause in the early diesel days, the locomotive horns are little more than semi-tractor horns!
Eh it looks tovweird to me that locomotive I’m a fan of emd and ge but I prefer emd is GP40s and SD40s as well as there SD70s series is like the Macs and Ace is I’d even take a non high hood versions of the GP38-3s but maybe I’m just not a high hood kinda guy I guess still cool video love your work
Sure like the paint scheme.
Have to wonder what the two yellow beacons on the front of 5206 are needed for. Is the horn not enough notice to get out of the way, lol.
Beacons are only used during remote operations. They’re purpose is to signal to other engineers that there my not be an engineer in the cab
@@tonyschulz3558 Thank you!
That B23-7 sounds like a M3 or M5.
The last time I heard it, it still had its Southern style horn ( P5 I think it's called, but it wasn't running LHF ) . Could be a different horn for the backup move.
I wonder why one number plate on 5206 has a funny zero.
So is this full time work for the Lhoist train crews or do they fill other roles with company when not running the trains?
They fill other roles too. They switch for about 2-3 hours daily and the mainline run is about 3 hours total.
Sweet footage. That's one sharp high hood!
When i worked at Railnet we had B23-7s....the mechanic had a hard time getting parts as GE manufactures like a car company and discontinues parts after 20 years. Countrys like Brasil buying a good 94 percent of the C30-7s and B models as well as peru and columbia you can say they hoarded everything....
Cars honking make me laugh. I always want to just get down and ask if they need help before moving again.
I hope the GE’s are kept around longer. I hate to be a negative ninny, but with the addition of 5206, I’m willing to bet that it’s the beginning of the end of the GE high hoods.
Parts are hard to come by, as they fail I'm sure retirement will happen
Why does the GE have call letter FIMX and the EMD have LNAX?
Why did the 4023 have a different reporting marking?
4023 was sub lettered for Franklin Materials before the Lhoist purchase.
I wonder who those SD60's are now going to they had with it in the DIT part of the lashup.
Scrapped.
😟
What if they need that extra unit.
Then they can easily put it back in the consist.
@@DelayInBlockProductionsnot exactly what I was talking about. I was talking about them adding the extra unit to the roster so they can run bigger trains.
Rephrase it...why do they...
Lhoist dedicated one of their 3 units to yard switching, 5206 is its replacement for fulltime service.
@@gregblanton9386 I kinda figured that. Couldn't get a ge so they got an emd.
Smart choosing a white paint scheme, as it won't show "dirt" from the limestone.
Exactly!
They gotta fix that horn though
Nice Video!
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I feel like I walk alone. I never cared for the high hoods. Matter of fact, I rather enjoy it when I see GP 7s & 9s getting chopped.
Nothing to beat a Roots blown EMD.
Well, this one's been stripped of its blower.
@@kristoffermangila you can't have a two stroke engine of any kind with no scavenging at all
@@AndreiTupolev from what the video implied, this unit's turbo was removed during rebuilding... I don't know, I'll rewatch this video again just to be sure. But the turbo whine in that EMD was either muted or gone...
@@AndreiTupolev after rechecking, you're right. This GP has twin Rootes blowers. It replaced the turbo on this locomotive. My bad.
Might be missing something, pretty sure Lhoist doesn’t build locomotives.
It has a vaguely European vibe to it.
Nothing says "SOUTHERN" more than No.5206
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