Sobering that this was 25 years ago; I remember my family having this on VHS somewhere, I never thought that Jonathan Pryce would become a James Bond villain;
Congratulations on your performance! I had the pleasure of seeing the original cast on Broadway. Huge Salonga fan and Miss Saigon is one of my favorite musicals ever.
@paul wagner Yeah, but he was talking about popular musicals in regards to Hamilton. Miss Saigon was hugely popular, Kiss of the Spiderwoman wasn't. And I hate Trump.
Actually all the musical numbers are pre recorded and the performers sing to those tracks on all Tony awards. I have done those sessions as a keyboard player.
That would be correct but even the music for American Dream was pre recorded. They sang to the tracks we recorded at Clinton Studios a couple of weeks b4 the broadcast. :)
@@lonellfletcher they never study which character roles are hard. I mean, really!? Placing Christine Daae as #11!? That role requires actresses to a fookin E6 note!
I heard that when Johnathan Pryce played the part of the Engineer on Broadway, he got rid of those prosthetics he used in London that made him look Asian, no doubt because of the controversy. I don't want to get into a debate, so all I will say is I love his performance.
Yap...but in later years, Lea played a french girl and french woman in les miserables....if an actor or actress is really good, artistic license overpowers historical or cultural accuracy.
Well it's different. In les mis she is French but there is no mention of eponines ethnic make up. The engineer is described as euraison. If they wanted a white guy then they should just change the character to a white guy. Trying to make him look Asian is no different from black face and unacceptable.
@@raaid22 Thing is The Engineer was "born" during the heat of French Colonialism in Indochina. The fact he was bi-racial as was mentioned above made it understandable why he was denounced by both the Vietnamese and the French. That's what Miss Saigon was trying to say, particularly with the Bui Doi song. "Half-breeds" can't expect to find a "home" in such places where the degree of revulsion for such a result is not only frowned upon, but out right shunned. Without the prosthetics there's no context as to the reason The Engineer was the way he was. I will never forgive New York for making such a stink with Jonathan Pryce over it. He is an actor and that's what actors do, don makeup to project the role they're playing. Black face is acceptable given the proper context. Art is not a place to refrain from depicting history's truths. In fact it is in the art we understand the past to project into the future. All the controversy surrounding this production was disgraceful on Broadway and Actor's Equity. Diversity is great if diversity is the aim. If in this case Cameron MacKintosh wanted to cast Jonathan Pryce and Lea Salonga, as the money behind the production he had the right to do whatever he pleased in the context of the piece. To say he didn't is saying no producer ever has the license to bring their vision to the stage, only what a bunch of picket sign carriers say he can. That's not art, that's production by committee. And let's not forget the ones who were arguing the loudest stood to gain roles that would never be theirs because the creators of the piece created it with the people they chose. I'm looking at you BD Wong and Rosalind Chao.
No, just lea solanga has sung as jasmine in aladdin, and mulan as well. Liz Callaway has sung as Anastasia in the 1997 don bluth film of the same name, and Odette in "The Swan Princess", the warner bros animated movie. She has also sung as the child version of Kiara in the Lion king 2: simba's pride (Reads more of Liz Callaway film credits): actually, nevermind this now meaningless biography. :P P.S. for those who don't know, Liz Callaway has sung as Jasmine in "Return of Jafar" and "Aladdin and the King of Thieves"
I still don’t know why some people think it’s racist that Jonathan Pryce played the Engineer. The Engineer is Eurasian (white + Asian). Not all Eurasian people look Asian or Eurasian. I’m Eurasian and I look white. The character is half white and Pryce is white so big deal. He was amazing!
but is Jonathan Pryce mix? he doesn't look like it. and who says the engineer is mix? the other engineer not only nailed the ethnicity but the hustle and vigor that I don't see in this white washed one.
i agree.....was lea salonga vietnamese? in hamilton, blacks played white people...when people start questioning, complaining, demanding for political correctness or affirmative action in art, it becomes propaganda...i agree with the producers of miss saigon choosing the actors to play in their creation, it’s their money and idea, if people don’t like it, don’t watch it....the producers were willing to bypass america for their stupid political correctness, and who caved in? america’s political correctness... i refuse to watch hamilton because i just can’t visually accept a black person playing a white character, or vice versa....let’s be honest, this tactic was for political reasons rather than art.....there’s no such thing as color blind...if colorblind can be a reason, then go for the whole shabang by casting guys to play girls, start having 69 year old women play Sandy’s part in Grease, start having a 10 year old doing love scenes with a 40 year old (color blind, gender blind, age blind)....
@@ServandoWatercolor the roles in Hamilton are inherently built to be played regardless of race. the purpose of Hamilton is to portray American history in a modern light - with modern music and representing the diversity of the modern US. and the story isn't at all racially charged because its focus is upon the determination of Hamilton to build his legacy and how history leaves a legacy behind that impacts our present. so casting a person of any skin color is perfectly fine because the story being told is a story that transcends race. on the other hand, Miss Saigon is an inherently Vietnamese story. it's telling a story about Vietnamese people that's meant to show the ruins left behind in Vietnam. and it's racially charged because the way the Vietnamese women are treated by many of the Americans was fueled by racist sentiments. even the Engineer's beliefs regarding his French half in relation to his Vietnamese half exist because of his internalized racism and his idealization of the US. to put a white person in the role of a Vietnamese character is removing Asian representation from a production that tells an Asian story. and for your last point, now you're just falling down the slippery slope. don't compare providing representation to historically oppressed groups to sexualizing children. have a good day.
@@ServandoWatercolor Don't look at these things at a vacuum. Context matters. Race has nothing to do with the story of Hamilton while Miss Saigon is a tale of people from two different countries. Mixing up race and culture in Hamilton doesn't change the period authenticity of the story as character's race doesnt change the dynamics. Miss Saigon on the other hand has to do with a person from a better off place and culture falling for a girl in a crap place. Changing the race of the Engineer removes the cultural authenticity aspect of him being born in the same country where Kim also lives. It's like if you cast the Engineer as Mexican, that shit dont make sense. Also, Miss Saigon did a worldwide search and they found Lea. FFilipinos are way closer and more authentic culturally and ethnically to vietnamese than the white guy as engineer.
I love Miss Saigon too bad when I watched it in 1998 Lea is not the leading role of Kim anymore Miss Saigon is not what its a stellar broadway show without Lea of course I like Monique Wilson as well but Lea has more of an angelic voice and her voice is higher in pitch than any Miss Saigon up to the present time, Lea really delivers the role of Kim she was just breath taking to listen and watch what a phenomenal performance!
Since they'd gone through the whole hog of casting a white actor for an asian role he was going to be fantastic but Jon Jon actually kills it in the 25th anniversary production, it's boring watching Jonathan in comparison!
I think if there was any unfairness or weirdness in the Tony awards that year is there may have been a backlash against backlash against the British Meg-Musical. They were never critical favorites and unfairly condescended to and considered low brow. It lost to the "Will Roger's Follies" which, innovative and cleverly conceived as it was, was a more traditional American style musical. I saw both and liked both for different reasons. The concept, staging and choreography of "Follies" the towering performance of Lea Salonga. I was not blown away by Mr. Pryce nor his big number "American Dream."
I think miss Saigon is more superb it should had won the Tony Awards and the actors and actresses delivered especially Jonathan Pryce and miss Lea Salonga, Lea is so charismatic in her role of Kim!
No, it didn't make "zero sense"; the Engineer is supposed to be half white, and Pryce is swarthy enough to be convincing as a white man with some Vietnamese heritage. Pryce is also superb at playing a sleazy huckster.
I find it hard that the original directors couldn't find anyone of Asian decent to play the engineer. Jonathan prcye is fine. But I'm sure they could've found someone. Given main roles to actually Asian actors...
Actually,Lea Salonga and Barry Bernal had main roles when we opened the show. Hinton Battle was cast as John on Broadway and the role was played by a caucasian in the West End. What I think the concern was: The show cost a fortune to mount in 1991. The producer wanted to insure that the show would make the original investment back. By having Pryce, he had a better chance (in his mind) of that happening. Not saying I agree but what the thought was. After the first year (that would be for 9 years out of the 10 years the show ran) the role of the Engineer was played by an Asian. Also the role of Ellen, for a period of time after Liz Callaway left, was also played by an Asian woman. The cast was amazingly diverse on so many levels.
Jonathan Pryce is pretty much awesome in anything he's in, and he looks amazing here. However, the Engineer clearly states in "American Dream" that he is the child of a Vietnamese prostitute. So... ah.... I don't get it.
The Engineer is half French, half Vietnamese. I don't understand the controversy. If a full Asian can play him, why not a full white? Eurasians can look white, Asian, or mixed, so it doesn't really matter, IMO.
Sobering that this was 25 years ago; I remember my family having this on VHS somewhere, I never thought that Jonathan Pryce would become a James Bond villain;
Lea Salonga is a tough act to follow... She raise the standards for Kim.. the revival Kim is good but Lea is way better.
November you what......
definitely
Yeahh but sorry i should admit that all the supporting roles in Eva's are way better than Lea's. Especially engineer and thuy.
Lea Salonga IS Kim. She is the original, and still the best. Eva Noblezada is a close second, and had the backing of Lea Salonga for the role
The original kim and chris are the best!
Congratulations on your performance! I had the pleasure of seeing the original cast on Broadway. Huge Salonga fan and Miss Saigon is one of my favorite musicals ever.
Thank you Julie. 4-11-93 Opening night. 33 years from yesterday! Time flies.
How wonderful! You will always have that . Can’t believe it’s that long either lol. My son was a baby. I hope you are still playing.
The Hamilton of the 90's
RENT says hello.
Miss Saigon is way the hell better than either of them.
@@shawnn7502 noo. All of them are different and important on their own way. You cant really compare them.
Of course one has its personal preferences
@paul wagner Miss Saigon was way more successful than Kiss of the Spiderwoman. It ran on Broadway for over 4,000 performances and toured for years.
@paul wagner Yeah, but he was talking about popular musicals in regards to Hamilton. Miss Saigon was hugely popular, Kiss of the Spiderwoman wasn't.
And I hate Trump.
Jonathan, Lea, Simon the best ever.
Pryce cant f**king sing! Good they replaced him with Jon Jon. Simon has no emotions , no adlib, he is like a robot!
One of those awkward Tony performances that start with pre recorded material, like INTO THE WOODS
Actually all the musical numbers are pre recorded and the performers sing to those tracks on all Tony awards. I have done those sessions as a keyboard player.
Was referring to the beginning montage, it seems like "The American Dream" was the only song performed live at the ceremony
That would be correct but even the music for American Dream was pre recorded. They sang to the tracks we recorded at Clinton Studios a couple of weeks b4 the broadcast. :)
Hi. I never had the track. i just played on it. Sorry
all the pianos. i was in the show as the principal keyboard player for the entire 10 year run
High sparrow!
reformed into extremely religious man. Oh, American dream...
Hilarious!
God bless you.
Ha!! I keep thinking where I saw him before. And the Pope too
So MUCH better than anything on @MsMojo's list 😒
It gets on my nerves bc I’ll click on a video and then their stupid logo comes up and I’m like here we go again🤦♀️
Only click on those if want disappointment.
Im sorry, what does MsMojo have to do with anything?
@@lonellfletcher they never study which character roles are hard. I mean, really!? Placing Christine Daae as #11!? That role requires actresses to a fookin E6 note!
@@vicentehizon6202 true. I don really invest in mojo beyond recreational viewing
I did not expect this from Jonathon Pryce.
Wish that he'd done more song and dance, he was stunning
5:29 lol
let's just hope Cersei doesn't find out about this.
I wish Cocoy Laurel acted as the engineer. He is excellent in all category.
Jeremy Irons is the one introducing this segment. Nice!
I heard that when Johnathan Pryce played the part of the Engineer on Broadway, he got rid of those prosthetics he used in London that made him look Asian, no doubt because of the controversy. I don't want to get into a debate, so all I will say is I love his performance.
EHH246 his character was bi racial
Yap...but in later years, Lea played a french girl and french woman in les miserables....if an actor or actress is really good, artistic license overpowers historical or cultural accuracy.
Well it’s a little more strange and deterring when he’s not in costume to appear Asian.
Well it's different. In les mis she is French but there is no mention of eponines ethnic make up. The engineer is described as euraison. If they wanted a white guy then they should just change the character to a white guy. Trying to make him look Asian is no different from black face and unacceptable.
@@raaid22 Thing is The Engineer was "born" during the heat of French Colonialism in Indochina. The fact he was bi-racial as was mentioned above made it understandable why he was denounced by both the Vietnamese and the French. That's what Miss Saigon was trying to say, particularly with the Bui Doi song. "Half-breeds" can't expect to find a "home" in such places where the degree of revulsion for such a result is not only frowned upon, but out right shunned. Without the prosthetics there's no context as to the reason The Engineer was the way he was. I will never forgive New York for making such a stink with Jonathan Pryce over it. He is an actor and that's what actors do, don makeup to project the role they're playing. Black face is acceptable given the proper context. Art is not a place to refrain from depicting history's truths. In fact it is in the art we understand the past to project into the future. All the controversy surrounding this production was disgraceful on Broadway and Actor's Equity. Diversity is great if diversity is the aim. If in this case Cameron MacKintosh wanted to cast Jonathan Pryce and Lea Salonga, as the money behind the production he had the right to do whatever he pleased in the context of the piece. To say he didn't is saying no producer ever has the license to bring their vision to the stage, only what a bunch of picket sign carriers say he can. That's not art, that's production by committee. And let's not forget the ones who were arguing the loudest stood to gain roles that would never be theirs because the creators of the piece created it with the people they chose. I'm looking at you BD Wong and Rosalind Chao.
One thin that Liz Callaway and Lea Salonga have in common is that they both have done the singing voice of Princess Jasmine in Disney's Aladdin.
No, just lea solanga has sung as jasmine in aladdin, and mulan as well.
Liz Callaway has sung as Anastasia in the 1997 don bluth film of the same name, and Odette in "The Swan Princess", the warner bros animated movie.
She has also sung as the child version of Kiara in the Lion king 2: simba's pride
(Reads more of Liz Callaway film credits): actually, nevermind this now meaningless biography. :P
P.S. for those who don't know, Liz Callaway has sung as Jasmine in "Return of Jafar" and "Aladdin and the King of Thieves"
Yes
Great
Just saw the US Broadway Tour and now understand that white washing the Engineer doesn't make any sense.
I still don’t know why some people think it’s racist that Jonathan Pryce played the Engineer. The Engineer is Eurasian (white + Asian). Not all Eurasian people look Asian or Eurasian. I’m Eurasian and I look white. The character is half white and Pryce is white so big deal. He was amazing!
but is Jonathan Pryce mix? he doesn't look like it. and who says the engineer is mix? the other engineer not only nailed the ethnicity but the hustle and vigor that I don't see in this white washed one.
i agree.....was lea salonga vietnamese? in hamilton, blacks played white people...when people start questioning, complaining, demanding for political correctness or affirmative action in art, it becomes propaganda...i agree with the producers of miss saigon choosing the actors to play in their creation, it’s their money and idea, if people don’t like it, don’t watch it....the producers were willing to bypass america for their stupid political correctness, and who caved in? america’s political correctness...
i refuse to watch hamilton because i just can’t visually accept a black person playing a white character, or vice versa....let’s be honest, this tactic was for political reasons rather than art.....there’s no such thing as color blind...if colorblind can be a reason, then go for the whole shabang by casting guys to play girls, start having 69 year old women play Sandy’s part in Grease, start having a 10 year old doing love scenes with a 40 year old (color blind, gender blind, age blind)....
@@ServandoWatercolor the roles in Hamilton are inherently built to be played regardless of race. the purpose of Hamilton is to portray American history in a modern light - with modern music and representing the diversity of the modern US. and the story isn't at all racially charged because its focus is upon the determination of Hamilton to build his legacy and how history leaves a legacy behind that impacts our present. so casting a person of any skin color is perfectly fine because the story being told is a story that transcends race.
on the other hand, Miss Saigon is an inherently Vietnamese story. it's telling a story about Vietnamese people that's meant to show the ruins left behind in Vietnam. and it's racially charged because the way the Vietnamese women are treated by many of the Americans was fueled by racist sentiments. even the Engineer's beliefs regarding his French half in relation to his Vietnamese half exist because of his internalized racism and his idealization of the US. to put a white person in the role of a Vietnamese character is removing Asian representation from a production that tells an Asian story.
and for your last point, now you're just falling down the slippery slope. don't compare providing representation to historically oppressed groups to sexualizing children. have a good day.
@@ServandoWatercolor Don't look at these things at a vacuum. Context matters.
Race has nothing to do with the story of Hamilton while Miss Saigon is a tale of people from two different countries. Mixing up race and culture in Hamilton doesn't change the period authenticity of the story as character's race doesnt change the dynamics.
Miss Saigon on the other hand has to do with a person from a better off place and culture falling for a girl in a crap place. Changing the race of the Engineer removes the cultural authenticity aspect of him being born in the same country where Kim also lives. It's like if you cast the Engineer as Mexican, that shit dont make sense. Also, Miss Saigon did a worldwide search and they found Lea. FFilipinos are way closer and more authentic culturally and ethnically to vietnamese than the white guy as engineer.
@@ServandoWatercolor my guy used “blacks” and “white people” one right after another, i think he might just be racist
Does anyone else think this just looks so awkward! 1:20
Mike Sparrow I know, right. Haha.
Me too hahaha
Oh my ghaaadd! 😂😂😂
Lol some stage moments are not really made for the camera.
Can’t believe John Travolta time travelled to be in this performance 1:20
Lol
the best and th most fabulous broadway show,
He's doing the Patti Lupone lip at 1:19😂
Every young filipina who can sings wants to be KIM!
Not every young filipina knows who Kim is. Lol.
@@ALLshALLfALL06 dang it
which is sad bc kim is vietnamese ...
I love Miss Saigon too bad when I watched it in 1998 Lea is not the leading role of Kim anymore Miss Saigon is not what its a stellar broadway show without Lea of course I like Monique Wilson as well but Lea has more of an angelic voice and her voice is higher in pitch than any Miss Saigon up to the present time, Lea really delivers the role of Kim she was just breath taking to listen and watch what a phenomenal performance!
Everybody’s gushed about Eva as Kim, but true fans are all for Lea.
Jonathan Pryce was an amazing Engineer. The best I've seen so far.
I'm a fan of him being the Engineer too.
I disagree.
I’m going to be honest I think the revival cast is way better, Eves voice has a Naïveness to it and makes you feel way more for her.
Since they'd gone through the whole hog of casting a white actor for an asian role he was going to be fantastic but Jon Jon actually kills it in the 25th anniversary production, it's boring watching Jonathan in comparison!
ON BROADWAY Suki Lopez
Completely robbed at the Tony's
I'm pretty sure it only lost Best Musical because of the racism allegations (though that didn't stop Johnathan Pryce from winning the Tony)
I think if there was any unfairness or weirdness in the Tony awards that year is there may have been a backlash against backlash against the British Meg-Musical. They were never critical favorites and unfairly condescended to and considered low brow. It lost to the "Will Roger's Follies" which, innovative and cleverly conceived as it was, was a more traditional American style musical. I saw both and liked both for different reasons. The concept, staging and choreography of "Follies" the towering performance of Lea Salonga. I was not blown away by Mr. Pryce nor his big number "American Dream."
I think miss Saigon is more superb it should had won the Tony Awards and the actors and actresses delivered especially Jonathan Pryce and miss Lea Salonga, Lea is so charismatic in her role of Kim!
At least that didn’t stop it from running for 10 more years.
Still don’t understand why Will Rogers’ Follies won instead. It sucks.
Wow 2 actress who were the top 2 for the singing voice of Jasmine on the same stage
the ads are specifically made for us....thanks
Did they perform the full musical in the Tony
No we only did this bit.
ねむいでちゆ〜〜😻
was that Jeremy Irons? the host?
Yes it was. Thanks for watching!
Jonathan Pryce!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
it made zero sense for him to play the role..the other guy did a lot better and made sense with his ethnicity as well.
No, it didn't make "zero sense"; the Engineer is supposed to be half white, and Pryce is swarthy enough to be convincing as a white man with some Vietnamese heritage. Pryce is also superb at playing a sleazy huckster.
I find it hard that the original directors couldn't find anyone of Asian decent to play the engineer. Jonathan prcye is fine. But I'm sure they could've found someone. Given main roles to actually Asian actors...
Actually,Lea Salonga and Barry Bernal had main roles when we opened the show. Hinton Battle was cast as John on Broadway and the role was played by a caucasian in the West End. What I think the concern was: The show cost a fortune to mount in 1991. The producer wanted to insure that the show would make the original investment back. By having Pryce, he had a better chance (in his mind) of that happening. Not saying I agree but what the thought was. After the first year (that would be for 9 years out of the 10 years the show ran) the role of the Engineer was played by an Asian. Also the role of Ellen, for a period of time after Liz Callaway left, was also played by an Asian woman. The cast was amazingly diverse on so many levels.
The following actors for The Engineer really couldn't portray Jonathan Pryce's level of sinister for the role.
Jonathan Pryce is pretty much awesome in anything he's in, and he looks amazing here. However, the Engineer clearly states in "American Dream" that he is the child of a Vietnamese prostitute. So... ah.... I don't get it.
The Engineer is half French, half Vietnamese. I don't understand the controversy. If a full Asian can play him, why not a full white? Eurasians can look white, Asian, or mixed, so it doesn't really matter, IMO.
Right, but his father was French. The character is biracial.
miss saigon never seen it
amy clarke Rectify that. It's incredible. The score is one of the most addictive in Broadway history.
So true
get on it girlie
Who the fuck played as Chris? 😂 He sounds hilarious.
Anastasia and Jasmine Disney princess broadway royalty
Lea is the best player of kim
Miss Saigon??? Why they played American Dream???
Probably because the number is a real show stopper and because of Price’s performance.
i like Joe Foronda =)
they should never replaced Simon here😢
Who played Chris there?
The original from Broadway company, Willie Falk
2nd Broadway show I saw via TKTS
Didn't stick around for some constructive criticism, did ya?
Jonathan Pryce looks awful as Engineer. Leo Valdez is still the best.
Who?
Jonathan price won an award in this role