the concentration of dissolved oxygen in surface water is affected by temperature and has both a seasonal and a daily cycle. Cold water can hold more dissolved oxygen than warm water. In winter and early spring, when the water temperature is low, the dissolved oxygen concentration is high. In summer and fall, when the water temperature is high, the dissolved-oxygen concentration is often lower.
Bought one of these and have nothing but regrets. PH swings are huge and in a rdwc system small particles CONSTANTLY get caught between the electrodes rendering them useless.
1. You need to put both types of bubblers in one tank, if you want me to believe that the water in the tanks is the same. It looks to me like saltwater bubbles on the left and freshwater bubbles on the right. 2. You're talking about this like it's only distilled water and an ideal electrolyte, like lye. Hydroponic plants are grown in water with many chemicals, so you could also be separating other molecules with electrolysis - like sodium from chlorine.
If you're worried about your sodium and chlorine molecules getting separated, I have really bad news for you. Water seperates them, lol it's literally the reason salt dissolves in water. The only time they're not separated in water is if you have so much salt that it fully saturates it, at which point the solution is over 1/4 salt.
@@pear-head This is different. The chorine is leaving the water as bubbles at the positive electrode. The sodium molecules have now changed from sodium chloride to sodium hydroxide.
The "high tech " board looks like a computer power supply unit which delivers high current . I will make one of my own tonight by using one from my old pc.
The down side of electrolysis when you leave that mesh on for a long periods of time that mesh will build up calcium and it wont be as much effective from when you first used it. You would have to take that mesh out the water and dip it into vinegar to remove all the calcium to use it again and its a hassle.
Hi, If I keep the oxygenation process (producing oxyzen & hydrozen continuously ) continue for 24 hours of a day, will it reach any harmful effect to the fishes ? or, any long term effect ? side-effects ? Please let me know ! Thanks
dunno. it looks like a cool idea. air is only 24% oxygen this is 100%. and algae breaths co2 produces oxygen, fish and coral breath oxygen and produce co2.
I tried this product before, I understood that, this dissolved oxygen will not be the same which we need with plants and fish, it will NOT be O2. Second thing, all my plants have been dead, because this device will make a reaction with the nutrients and will make a new unwanted chemical products.
Nice that the electrodes are inert but any dissolved metals would build up on there just as fast, its called electro plating. Also wondering how the fish like the voltage potential in the water espacially catfish, rays and sharks species that use electricity to sense and see. I do not recommend this ,but look it up for yourself.
if u do it in a side vessel, then you pump it in somehow by isolating it you could fix that fact. (u can temporally isolate electricity as well as spacially)
I made a test version in literally 10 minutes. Two pieces of fine wire mesh separated by a couple of 5mm plastic strips and stapled in place. A wire attached to each mesh and connected to a 12v battery. Looks awesome with the nanobubbles forming but I'm worried about what happens to to the nutrient salts in the solution and the hydrogen gas build up sounds dangerous in a sealed environment.
If this gets off the ground, Big Mac will probably cost 50 bucks because of the cost of producing of lettuce went up due to the installation of a super-oxygenator!
I am interested in possibly purchasing your O2 Grow product, for use in our aquaponic system. I'm sure that it would help with plant growth and to some extent, be beneficial for our tilapia. However, I have read an article that stated that over-oxygenation can lead to a fish kill. I want optimal plant and fish growth (basically a happy ecosystem). What O2 grow is showing looks like a great compliment to help a system thrive. How do I size our equipment, to the needs of our system size? We have a 3,300 gallon pool for the fish and another 1,200-1,500 gallons of water, running through raised grow beds, that are supporting our efforts to grow healthy green veggies.
sooo not sure if it would be any better or worse but has anyone ever tried using a bubbler with pure oxygen out of an oxygen bottle (like at a hospital)? It would probably be an expensive experiment but maybe if it works well enough find a cheaper way?
What about the hydrogen in the water… let’s say I was dumb enough to plug this thing in. Then I want to use the water. That means I have to turn it off. So how long until the hydrogen is out, but the oxygen remains. And at the end of that point in time. What’s the parts per million. Cause you can’t electrocute the fish you feel me. And how does the cost of electrolysis compare to an air pump? Cause obviously that computer power supply in a plastic box has been marked up 1000 fold…. So if your gonna sell me something, sell me. Don’t show me a magic trick of bubbles in the water. I’ll come back at you with a ultrasonic mister that’s cheaper and faster at the magic trick.
Eh, Using Henry]s law wouldn't it be better to just put an air tight lid on your fish tank? Think of the dissolved oxygen you could achieve with just a regular bubbler!
No good for rdwc, what you going to do put one in each bucket 12 bucket system, sure cost you more then what the hole grow room is worth, maybe one in main res, it's just not worth the money, at the end of the day you will still need air stones in each bucket, cheap and easy this is way over priced maybe $50 at max and I would buy one to try but $400+ is insane
Dennis I am getting 19ppm from the system. I think it may change slight from summer air to winter air. After using the system for awhile now, going on 2 years I couldn't ask for better results. Thank you Oxygen Research group.
Got a pic of your DO meter showing that you are at 200% dissolved oxygen saturation? And at what temp? And the better question is... How much O2 does the root structure actually need in order to improve growth? How much is TOO much and what is the right amount? You want the just right porridge, not the other bowls
in the video's there makeing it seem that it's ment for fish a person that nos nothing about this can just get one thinking it's for a fish tank and it ends up killing everything lol they should really specify bit more
He talked about root growth and there was even a poster above the first tank showing how much more yield they experienced with different vegetables, while using this device... I thought that made it pretty clear lol
Why buy this product for 250-2000$ when you can buy a micro bubble shower head for 100$ or less. Who was the brains and funding behind this company. They should have repurposed micro bubble shower heads. Less complicated. Looks like they're product has a lot less bubbles then average shower head. I smell bankruptcy but who cares they borrowed the money anyway. This is what happens when people don't earn the money before they start a company.
Yeah but 2000$ or something like this is just hilarious. It is still just electrolysis it's no magic which would justify spending 2000$ on this. I mean ok go with 500$ for the big things but we are talking about 2000$ for a + and - pole in water creating bubbles lol.
This is incredibly energy intensive, will never be economically scalable, will cause worse crisis than electrical overloading of the grids for cryptocurrency mining. Over priced for a silly highschool lab project that anyone with a bit of knowledge can reproduce... Sometimes simple is better, no? Air pumping is as good as anyone needs to provide. Want to speed up growth? Air bubbles to oxygenate the water and providing a CO2 rich atmospheric environment is key for synthesis and rapid growth(speed and size).
$400 for a pair of stainless steel electrodes and a power supply, LOL
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the concentration of dissolved oxygen in surface water is affected by temperature and has both a seasonal and a daily cycle. Cold water can hold more dissolved oxygen than warm water. In winter and early spring, when the water temperature is low, the dissolved oxygen concentration is high. In summer and fall, when the water temperature is high, the dissolved-oxygen concentration is often lower.
He said bubbles = 9 parts per million, their device = 12-14 ppm
Great device but if we're talking about cost effectiveness I'll go with the bubbles.
Electrolysis! It's what plants crave!
more like its what the fish and coral crave, not the plants.
Pure Ideocracy, I got it. ;)
Bought one of these and have nothing but regrets. PH swings are huge and in a rdwc system small particles CONSTANTLY get caught between the electrodes rendering them useless.
Thanks bro just made things way simpler for me. My main concern also was ph swings.
I'd also be worried about hydrogen building up wherever you're exhausting to. This is literally a hydrogen generator
Just get an ozone generator pump. That's the new crazy lmao
does it affect nutrients in the water
No matter what air pump are still the best! My fishes still swimming happily...lol
1. You need to put both types of bubblers in one tank, if you want me to believe that the water in the tanks is the same. It looks to me like saltwater bubbles on the left and freshwater bubbles on the right.
2. You're talking about this like it's only distilled water and an ideal electrolyte, like lye. Hydroponic plants are grown in water with many chemicals, so you could also be separating other molecules with electrolysis - like sodium from chlorine.
If you're worried about your sodium and chlorine molecules getting separated, I have really bad news for you. Water seperates them, lol it's literally the reason salt dissolves in water.
The only time they're not separated in water is if you have so much salt that it fully saturates it, at which point the solution is over 1/4 salt.
@@pear-head This is different. The chorine is leaving the water as bubbles at the positive electrode. The sodium molecules have now changed from sodium chloride to sodium hydroxide.
Where can I buy
The "high tech " board looks like a computer power supply unit which delivers high current . I will make one of my own tonight by using one from my old pc.
Allen Rob show me when you made one 😎👍🏻
It’s already made, you just have to use it
The down side of electrolysis when you leave that mesh on for a long periods of time that mesh will build up calcium and it wont be as much effective from when you first used it. You would have to take that mesh out the water and dip it into vinegar to remove all the calcium to use it again and its a hassle.
Why don't you show the dissolved oxygen in this video? It looks neat, but who knows if this is even working
I wonder if it hinders algae growth.
How does smaller bubbles increase oxygen? Is it because the tiny bubbles remain in the water column longer than larger bubbles?
I'm dead curious where all the hydrogen is going. Is it just being allowed to bubble out? Seems far from ideal.
YES
It's adding to the acidity of the water.
I also suppose you are getting hydrogen as well. Is that safe for the fish?
Isn't only platinum and graphite inert enough to be safe?
Can we use this in aquarium
At 32 degrees F 14.6 mg/L
At 86 degrees F 7.6mg/L at saturation using aquarium bubbler.
Hi,
If I keep the oxygenation process (producing oxyzen & hydrozen continuously ) continue for 24 hours of a day, will it reach any harmful effect to the fishes ? or, any long term effect ? side-effects ?
Please let me know !
Thanks
dunno. it looks like a cool idea. air is only 24% oxygen this is 100%. and algae breaths co2 produces oxygen, fish and coral breath oxygen and produce co2.
I tried this product before,
I understood that, this dissolved oxygen will not be the same which we need with plants and fish, it will NOT be O2.
Second thing, all my plants have been dead, because this device will make a reaction with the nutrients and will make a new unwanted chemical products.
Nice that the electrodes are inert but any dissolved metals would build up on there just as fast, its called electro plating. Also wondering how the fish like the voltage potential in the water espacially catfish, rays and sharks species that use electricity to sense and see. I do not recommend this ,but look it up for yourself.
if u do it in a side vessel, then you pump it in somehow by isolating it you could fix that fact. (u can temporally isolate electricity as well as spacially)
this is simple electrolysis, youtube how to make electrolysis is a simple yet very effective technology. you can make this yourself.
hello i am looking to improve DO in RAS fish farm does this work for fish tanks.
Definitely for outdoor growth
is this commercially viable ?
I made a test version in literally 10 minutes. Two pieces of fine wire mesh separated by a couple of 5mm plastic strips and stapled in place. A wire attached to each mesh and connected to a 12v battery. Looks awesome with the nanobubbles forming but I'm worried about what happens to to the nutrient salts in the solution and the hydrogen gas build up sounds dangerous in a sealed environment.
Is this healthy for fish tanks?
Does it effect the PH of the Solution?
Yes
If this gets off the ground, Big Mac will probably cost 50 bucks because of the cost of producing of lettuce went up due to the installation of a super-oxygenator!
It's $300 for one unit, that supports 20 gallons max................................................
isn't hydrogen flammable?
not only flammable, since it splits water, it also makes the perfect ratio for creating water. google hydrogen oxygen explosion to get a taste.
big time brother. check out the hindenburg.
yes, needs to be exhausted out
Ozon is less exposief to me ..where do you put your hydrogyn?
I am interested in possibly purchasing your O2 Grow product, for use in our aquaponic system. I'm sure that it would help with plant growth and to some extent, be beneficial for our tilapia. However, I have read an article that stated that over-oxygenation can lead to a fish kill. I want optimal plant and fish growth (basically a happy ecosystem). What O2 grow is showing looks like a great compliment to help a system thrive. How do I size our equipment, to the needs of our system size? We have a 3,300 gallon pool for the fish and another 1,200-1,500 gallons of water, running through raised grow beds, that are supporting our efforts to grow healthy green veggies.
i dont think you can over oxygenate id like to see that study can u share it?
Is this basically a HHO generator?
sooo not sure if it would be any better or worse but has anyone ever tried using a bubbler with pure oxygen out of an oxygen bottle (like at a hospital)? It would probably be an expensive experiment but maybe if it works well enough find a cheaper way?
H2O2 is Hydrogen peroxide XD
thatjokerperson the hydrogen actually bubbles to the top and out of the water. Leaving just o2 water
o2 is just oxygen, water is a compound of hydrogen and oxygen with out hydrogen there is no water
Can I still have fish in it
could fish swim in a tank with this device?
My airstones increase my PH. I have good circulation in the tank with good surface agitation. Any thoughts?
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but its nano bubbles, it helps to generate nano roots which help with absorption of your nano particle nutrients...
question : will water cavitation increase oxygen ?
What happens with the hydrogen from the electrolysis? Is it just released to the air above water? Is it not like obnoxiously explosive?
Hello sir .. i have 20k ltr biofloc tank 5 diameter x 1.2 meter height .. i want increase do leval what you suggeste
I think it's worth every penny depending on how much you love your plants
that was well said
Cool stuff. I wonder if this kinda sht can be used to clean pond by my house. can tell the o2 is low in the pond.
Isn't the plant going to use that oxygen?? Then What?
Is this suitable for Aquaculture?
What about the hydrogen in the water… let’s say I was dumb enough to plug this thing in. Then I want to use the water. That means I have to turn it off. So how long until the hydrogen is out, but the oxygen remains. And at the end of that point in time. What’s the parts per million. Cause you can’t electrocute the fish you feel me. And how does the cost of electrolysis compare to an air pump? Cause obviously that computer power supply in a plastic box has been marked up 1000 fold…. So if your gonna sell me something, sell me. Don’t show me a magic trick of bubbles in the water. I’ll come back at you with a ultrasonic mister that’s cheaper and faster at the magic trick.
A solution in search of a problem.
Eh, Using Henry]s law wouldn't it be better to just put an air tight lid on your fish tank? Think of the dissolved oxygen you could achieve with just a regular bubbler!
You can build this for $10 just saying
No good for rdwc, what you going to do put one in each bucket 12 bucket system, sure cost you more then what the hole grow room is worth, maybe one in main res, it's just not worth the money, at the end of the day you will still need air stones in each bucket, cheap and easy this is way over priced maybe $50 at max and I would buy one to try but $400+ is insane
It is just an electrolytes technology!
Dennis I am getting 19ppm from the system. I think it may change slight from summer air to winter air. After using the system for awhile now, going on 2 years I couldn't ask for better results. Thank you Oxygen Research group.
Got a pic of your DO meter showing that you are at 200% dissolved oxygen saturation? And at what temp? And the better question is... How much O2 does the root structure actually need in order to improve growth? How much is TOO much and what is the right amount? You want the just right porridge, not the other bowls
why would u won't your aquarium to look like that tho? that defeats the purpose of haveing clear water clawds it's up ?
in the video's there makeing it seem that it's ment for fish a person that nos nothing about this can just get one thinking it's for a fish tank and it ends up killing everything lol they should really specify bit more
He talked about root growth and there was even a poster above the first tank showing how much more yield they experienced with different vegetables, while using this device... I thought that made it pretty clear lol
Hydroponics and potted plants
Why buy this product for 250-2000$ when you can buy a micro bubble shower head for 100$ or less. Who was the brains and funding behind this company. They should have repurposed micro bubble shower heads. Less complicated. Looks like they're product has a lot less bubbles then average shower head. I smell bankruptcy but who cares they borrowed the money anyway. This is what happens when people don't earn the money before they start a company.
Smoke and mirrors 😂😂. Man knows more than nature. SMH
poor email contact poor payment option s and the price is fuckt up high i dont buy this product .
Yeah but 2000$ or something like this is just hilarious. It is still just electrolysis it's no magic which would justify spending 2000$ on this. I mean ok go with 500$ for the big things but we are talking about 2000$ for a + and - pole in water creating bubbles lol.
This is incredibly energy intensive, will never be economically scalable, will cause worse crisis than electrical overloading of the grids for cryptocurrency mining. Over priced for a silly highschool lab project that anyone with a bit of knowledge can reproduce...
Sometimes simple is better, no? Air pumping is as good as anyone needs to provide. Want to speed up growth? Air bubbles to oxygenate the water and providing a CO2 rich atmospheric environment is key for synthesis and rapid growth(speed and size).
i made one for 15 bucks lol
George Grimany do you see diffrence in plant helth
show me how
rip off wow really?