@@jimsvideos7201 you can't "fix that bridge" if it's not broken, stupid. All the did was raise it, and now that traffic has picked back up on the roads again so too has the videos. Idiot.
Im' a train engeneer here in brazil,and the company that i work for still own a fleet of C30-7's...Mechanically is a really reliable machine,but the electrical system is another story.....some of them takes an eternity lo load properly,and when it does the amperange jumps almost immediately so running a train with them becomes a challenge sometimes.
That's good to hear Dash-7's are still running, they were a big improvement over the Universal Series, but I hear train engineers complain all the time that Dash-7 and Dash-8 are slow to load. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Looks like they were flanging the surface level rail, so they didn't derail. The railroad I work for you have to use a locomotive over such tracks first to cut the flange in so a car doesn't walk off. Also that was a really tight curve they were shoving through.
@@CentralPennRailProductions I used to live in downtown Boston and loved to watch one of the Conrail ones switching boxcars with newsprint loads for the Boston Herald's presses. One loco in particular sounded absolutely alive (like a cartoon version of an engine). Fun type of locomotive to have on your model railroad, too.
@@CentralPennRailProductions the old 4-stroke GE engine looks rare in america,but you will find that a lot in indonesia,indonesian locomotives are fullfilled with GE U-series,for example,a U18C and U20C with some of them are rebuilded with a new wide cabs and those engines are still in service
in all seriousness, videos like this would make good training videos, in the field live action, imperfect conditions, imperfect equipment, it is real responsibility, you have to cover all bases, even the shippers.we dont always have a good gp40, gp35 on good rail and a spare car to act as cover. these kids did a good job for what they had to use/work with. we want more of these type "working videos" mr. central pen rail production man.
the only thing missing is the 2 old head brakeman and the conductor yelling at each other using hand signals no walkie talkies back then, try'em to figure the building out, been there done that.
Good video! I remember this engine quite well. Glad I got videos of it and 7874. I saw 7874 down there just after the geeps arrived, and now I think it’s at Manheim along with a 44 tonner.
There are two basic faults at play in the loco hitting the door: 1 the door was allowed to be built over the track that did not meet the clearance envelope and 2. the railroad didn't measure the clearances and publish them in the employee timetable. As a matter of information, close clearance signs have to be erected any time any thing can or will come into the clearance diagram of a track. These dimensions are 17 feet wide by 15 feet 1 inch tall for most freely interchanged traffic. Double-stack and auto racks are 20 feet 3 inches high. Needless to say these are restricted from under energized catenary.
We have a fleet of old GE U-boats, specifically U26C models, C-axle with 7FDL-12 prime movers and 3ft 6in rail gauge, 2 have been rebuilt with gruntier engines, different cabs and redesignated as C30-8Mi. They are all labelled as the DXx class, with DXB, DXC and the 2 rebuilt DXR subclasses. They've been running strong since the mid-70s
These old diesels are becoming increasingly harder to find nowadays; I love the styling and sounds of the older General Electric U-series. I'm sure the engineer felt mighty embarrassed making a blunder like that, though.
Somebody else mentioned it is well, but I was looking at that little patch above the door, that may have happened before? I just find it kind of odd they would build a garage for trains to come in and out and not have more clearance than that. Oh well, I don't know all that much about this stuff and I'm sure they have their reasons. Great video and please stay safe out there my friend
The train was just a few inches away from going under, here in Australia we have an F unit based train (Gm Class) number GM10 and its 70 years old and is better than this train, but this is A U23B so that explains alot lol
@@CentralPennRailProductions I used to have a shortline near me, the Eastside Freight Railroad, that operated a 1963 former MoPac SW1200. The railroad shut down in August 2020 and sold their locomotive to another shortline about 100 miles down south, the Meeker Southern Railroad. Not sure what's happened to it since then. Probably hasn't even been used after leaving the EFRX.
7 years is a great production lag. I'm also holding off on releasing videos so that we can remember the "good old days" of five years ago when railroads weren't junk.
I agree, I shoot a lot of train videos on a weekly basis, but when I come online to watch train videos, I tend to watch older footage of stuff I don't go out to see every day. Every audience is different: I know a lot of train buffs flock to those live cameras and want to see current stuff, but I'd rather watch something well put together (current or old) by someone with a camera not in a fixed location.
Personally, I would have taken the empty that was pulled out and shuffled cars so the empty acted as a buffer car, and then the loco wouldn't have even been close to going into the building!
So the engine wouldn't have hit the building if it had gone under the shed to pick up the empty? I don't understand what difference it would make which time it went under the shed.
Drew too much air, weeds on the rail, too much independent, needs a little practice is all. We all went through this, I imagine. Also should have made a couple of moves to get the empty ahead of the loads. It was just the lifting rings that got bent, nothing too serious.
@Jeremy Amundsen yes, but the "God given talent" of how the man handled the locomotive coupled with the assistance of his conductor GOT 'ER DONE...yyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....here we go---------->*
He’s spotting loaded cars with full service air the whole time for some reason. Should have pushed about 10 lbs to them until he was ready to stop and then went full service. I’d say he’s either new, or not used to using air alone without dynamic braking.
Maybe get a slug so its lower and doesnt run the risk of bumping, I dont know if the SD40-2 would fit. But yeah, SD40-2 would be great. The feed mill near me purchased a SD40-2 just for their switching operations (which i believe occurs daily with frequent grain trains and other grain locals frequenting that area and the yard there). Cargill in Gainesville GA is the mill.
@@sharkheadism does not damage anything except the tracks and the tyres, and the couplings. Especially on weakly built industrial sidings...and flat spots on wheels hammers any track they run over or simply breaking the coupling. There were plenty of people hanging around to take the brakes off if the wagon wasn't just broken already. They certainly should not be making a habit of it.
There's three things I can think of that was probably going thru the conductor's mind when he discovered that the diesel was a little too tall to fit in. 1. Are you @#$%&^* kidding me? 2. Seriously!? 3. I should have called in sick today.
This video is 7 years old, I doubt anyone is gonna get smack for something that long ago. I never upload recent videos with train crews in them for this reason, especially if they are getting on/off equipment or doing something a TM will piss his pants over.
Hey, that’s a nice video. That loco is a classic. I web searched it and was surprised to see that Atlas offered I believe an N scale locomotive if that exact loco 2204. Was most likely a few years ago. Thanks for sharing some PRL history 👍👍👍😎😎😎
Interesting how you can barely hear the prime mover burbling. That indicates low HP being used, probably due to the shot traction motors that don’t load properly
What can be any better and entertaining than watching trains.love to have that horn on my car.when there is someone in front of me going very slow on a 40 km speed limit.lay on that horn and scare the shit out of them.
Even though it is an old U boat I’m kinda shocked it was having trouble shoving two loaded gons, were the sanders long out of commission? Cool video, love seeing these old GE’s in action
Great catch. I was expecting a lot more black smoke belching out of the stack. I worked in C 30-7 coal country when they were being phased out (90's) . They belched lots of smoke. I love the GE sound and exhaust stack fires. Thanks for this video. Note: was the problem with the push stuck brakes or did the loco really have problems getting tractive effort?
Remember: "Will it fit?" and "will it go in?" are two different questions, the difference being a little enthusiasm and a few more horsepower.
Jim's videos 11 Foot 8 Will the Truck Fit Reference
@@csx6025gamer I've seen some of that, but they fixed that bridge recently.
@@jimsvideos7201 you can't "fix that bridge" if it's not broken, stupid. All the did was raise it, and now that traffic has picked back up on the roads again so too has the videos. Idiot.
Yeah sounds like my sister's life philosophy.
@@KandiKlover Take it easy…
it will fit every time now!
That's one way of looking at it!!!
haha funny one there. though, good point !
Well, just
New customer for life lololo
Im' a train engeneer here in brazil,and the company that i work for still own a fleet of C30-7's...Mechanically is a really reliable machine,but the electrical system is another story.....some of them takes an eternity lo load properly,and when it does the amperange jumps almost immediately so running a train with them becomes a challenge sometimes.
That's good to hear Dash-7's are still running, they were a big improvement over the Universal Series, but I hear train engineers complain all the time that Dash-7 and Dash-8 are slow to load. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@CentralPennRailProductions yep the -7's are slow to load specially in dynamic brake.
Rumo ALL?
Yeah they are notorious for slow-loading here, even taking minutes at a time.
@@ALL-bj7mj *A MRS tem*
Should have let a little air out of the tires.
David Stillman damn that’s a good one
🤣🤣🤣
Nice one🇬🇧
I wold just break the whole building lol FULL SPEED BACK
That's good one
Great footage! Done very professionally. It was a bit hard to see the frozen wheels, and spinning wheels, but I really enjoyed this video.
Looks like they were flanging the surface level rail, so they didn't derail. The railroad I work for you have to use a locomotive over such tracks first to cut the flange in so a car doesn't walk off. Also that was a really tight curve they were shoving through.
Great video! That engine has a lot of personality - I really miss the distinctive sounds these locomotives made. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks! Those old four-stroke chugging GE sounds were some of the best.
@@CentralPennRailProductions I used to live in downtown Boston and loved to watch one of the Conrail ones switching boxcars with newsprint loads for the Boston Herald's presses. One loco in particular sounded absolutely alive (like a cartoon version of an engine). Fun type of locomotive to have on your model railroad, too.
That's neat! Too bad they moved most of the freight rail operations to outside of Boston a few years ago.
@@CentralPennRailProductions Sad to hear that.
@@CentralPennRailProductions the old 4-stroke GE engine looks rare in america,but you will find that a lot in indonesia,indonesian locomotives are fullfilled with GE U-series,for example,a U18C and U20C with some of them are rebuilded with a new wide cabs and those engines are still in service
in all seriousness, videos like this would make good training videos, in the field live action, imperfect conditions, imperfect equipment, it is real responsibility, you have to cover all bases, even the shippers.we dont always have a good gp40, gp35 on good rail and a spare car to act as cover. these kids did a good job for what they had to use/work with. we want more of these type "working videos" mr. central pen rail production man.
the only thing missing is the 2 old head brakeman and the conductor yelling at each other using hand signals no walkie talkies back then, try'em to figure the building out, been there done that.
looks like his sanders are not working.
Quick fix for spotting cars into buildings, use a buffer car!
exactly. theyre dumbasses probably forgot to bring one
@@reedspacer558 They pulled one right out of the shed before hand. lol. That empty Rail Gon.
@@Shane-Singleton I was thinking this the whole time
I love how the Leslie RS3L horn echoes on older Conrail locomotives. This one sounds fantastic.
Sounds more like an RS3K
I believe the technical term for banging up a loco and a building in one go is a "boo boo".
another term is "job insurance", hahahahahahahaha:)
Sir Topham hat would not be pleased.
I think it's more like OH $HIT!
That white paint on the building just above the locomotive tells me it's been repaired ... from a previous bump ?
They'd be better off just notching the door
It's white reflective strips on either side and top so you can see the door frame at night.
I Thought That Too..
Whoop whoop, Terrain, pull up! But seriously, who builds a train shed that isnt big enough to fit a train?
You will be surprised.
I work on umgeni steam railway.
Well whoop whoop, terrain yes, but more like pull down. Hahahah gnieob 575
chicken or the egg.
Good video! I remember this engine quite well. Glad I got videos of it and 7874. I saw 7874 down there just after the geeps arrived, and now I think it’s at Manheim along with a 44 tonner.
I haven't seen 7874 working in Manheim but I do miss it up here on the LANO. The GP's are snazzy though.
This is a great video as it clearly depicts the role and need for short line railroads. Thank you for sharing.
Hey thank you for watching and commenting!
There are two basic faults at play in the loco hitting the door: 1 the door was allowed to be built over the track that did not meet the clearance envelope and 2. the railroad didn't measure the clearances and publish them in the employee timetable.
As a matter of information, close clearance signs have to be erected any time any thing can or will come into the clearance diagram of a track. These dimensions are 17 feet wide by 15 feet 1 inch tall for most freely interchanged traffic. Double-stack and auto racks are 20 feet 3 inches high. Needless to say these are restricted from under energized catenary.
Just love seeing old U-boats like this still out and about earning a living.
Around the shop, we call that "Go until is sounds expensive."
That was really interesting to watch, love the sound of that loco. Cheers from Sussex UK
Thank you!
That's cool! Thinking about the trains in Penn makes me nostalgic of years before.
We have a fleet of old GE U-boats, specifically U26C models, C-axle with 7FDL-12 prime movers and 3ft 6in rail gauge, 2 have been rebuilt with gruntier engines, different cabs and redesignated as C30-8Mi. They are all labelled as the DXx class, with DXB, DXC and the 2 rebuilt DXR subclasses. They've been running strong since the mid-70s
These old diesels are becoming increasingly harder to find nowadays; I love the styling and sounds of the older General Electric U-series. I'm sure the engineer felt mighty embarrassed making a blunder like that, though.
dear Friend love it. Really enjoyed. Thumbs up.
Wishing you good health and beautiful Time.
God bless you
A day full of problems for poor GE!!! 😞
Very Nice video Sr!!!
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Somebody else mentioned it is well, but I was looking at that little patch above the door, that may have happened before? I just find it kind of odd they would build a garage for trains to come in and out and not have more clearance than that. Oh well, I don't know all that much about this stuff and I'm sure they have their reasons. Great video and please stay safe out there my friend
Thanks for watching!
That Stormtrooper from Star Wars IV is absolutely driving the train. You know which one. That one.
another term is "job insurance", hahahahahahahahah:)
@@marfalight huh?
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Even though I just watched Star Wars, I’m drawing a blank. Remind me Which stormtrooper?
Click the link above @@trainfire2008
The train was just a few inches away from going under, here in Australia we have an F unit based train (Gm Class) number GM10 and its 70 years old and is better than this train, but this is A U23B so that explains alot lol
Switching industries is fun it's never a dull moment that's for sure. Especially when you're by yourself.
Nice catch, it looks like they had a small patch above the door already. No doubt it wasn't the first time.
I was looking at that patch myself, I bet you're right. Since it is designed for trains, you would think it would be much higher than that?
@@richdiscoveries It definitely does not comply with best practices.
8:32- 8:42 Looks right out of a well detailed model railroad photo
Yeah, right down to the way to narrow road hehe
this video was really neat. shortlines are the best.
I agree, short line railroads have a lot of old and neat locomotives that you just can't find anywhere on the big railroads of today.
Short doors are not😄
@@CentralPennRailProductions I used to have a shortline near me, the Eastside Freight Railroad, that operated a 1963 former MoPac SW1200. The railroad shut down in August 2020 and sold their locomotive to another shortline about 100 miles down south, the Meeker Southern Railroad. Not sure what's happened to it since then. Probably hasn't even been used after leaving the EFRX.
I like how the gondola directly behind the locomotive says A OK. 😆
Haha yeah
AOK is Arkansas-Oklahoma Railroad. I've seen a number of these cars here and there.
@@NScaleRailroad I think the AOK reporting mark is used on a bunch of cars that are not actually owned by that railroad.
Train loco being mocked by a low gondola
*_SAD_*
AOK have a list of mixed rolling stock plus about 30 locos,including 3 ex BNSF BW40-8 patched over H2 paint with original road #'s
Damn, you put right when I told you to put it. Now you're really going to get it!
Nice to see good old U-boats in action.
Yes it is! Thanks for watching!
Maybe they will adjust the garage door to be higher up. I hope the locomotive got repaired anyway as I like these old GE locomotives.
Well made video. I prefer emd but the Universal series has a nice sound when switching.
Thanks Scott!
Listen to those rails creak and croak… gotta love it!
Video quality is very nice.
I love Short line action and this is really good. Something definitely doesn't sound right at 2:57 when he's pushing backwards. Thanks for posting!
*treads*
7 years is a great production lag. I'm also holding off on releasing videos so that we can remember the "good old days" of five years ago when railroads weren't junk.
I agree, I shoot a lot of train videos on a weekly basis, but when I come online to watch train videos, I tend to watch older footage of stuff I don't go out to see every day. Every audience is different: I know a lot of train buffs flock to those live cameras and want to see current stuff, but I'd rather watch something well put together (current or old) by someone with a camera not in a fixed location.
Always loved the sound of those Locos
Aha. So that’s how wagon wheels get flats. Enjoyed the video.
Great video and catch! Always love those old GEs.
That locomotive might be my favorite Ive seen
they are GE U boat units if you are wondering
Personally, I would have taken the empty that was pulled out and shuffled cars so the empty acted as a buffer car, and then the loco wouldn't have even been close to going into the building!
Same here in UK would be called barrier vehicle
@@charitycharity3316 those are Americans. They think a bit rougher
So the engine wouldn't have hit the building if it had gone under the shed to pick up the empty? I don't understand what difference it would make which time it went under the shed.
Haha,they were on the "chop" 😉
@@jsnow181 The hood fits, such as the cab hood. But the maintenance lift hooks on the radiator stuck up a couple inches too many
Awesome horn
3:06 OMG that train needs a toilet XD😂
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Haha
I love those old U boat “ sewing machines”
It's the same type with locomotive in Indonesia. The rename is CC201 series. The loco still operating until now. Love the engine sound
its not really the same type but their the same class as the U boat unit in this video (being a Universal series)
Drew too much air, weeds on the rail, too much independent, needs a little practice is all.
We all went through this, I imagine. Also should have made a couple of moves to get the empty ahead of the loads.
It was just the lifting rings that got bent, nothing too serious.
@Jeremy Amundsen yes, but the "God given talent" of how the man handled the locomotive coupled with the assistance of his conductor GOT 'ER DONE...yyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....here we go---------->*
Thank you for knowing how and when to use the word "too"!
Awesome shots of this one.
That moment when you get a new locomotive but it doesn't fit in your garage
Just overall a bad day for the crew. Everything that could go wrong went wrong.
@Christiaan Overgaard XD
@Christiaan Overgaard Well, that non-spinning wheel will have a great flatspot afterwards...
The crossing at 2:40 is Fritztown Rd. I live near it. Very rare to see engines on those tracks nowadays.
Awesome catch
Excellent video
Nice photos angles!
I love these locos!
Love that "small town" shot at 2:35!
He’s spotting loaded cars with full service air the whole time for some reason. Should have pushed about 10 lbs to them until he was ready to stop and then went full service. I’d say he’s either new, or not used to using air alone without dynamic braking.
Interesting opening shot!
Engineer must not have learned to drive a standard! hahahahhaha
I remember you way before you got the verified badge (not on this account either)
@@AGTCRailroader Cool, thanks!
Nice sounding Leslie RS-3K
Nice Video! Great Machine - 9:22 - good horn sounds!
Thanks for sharing
They need some EMD power. SD40-2 would be perfect for the job. Nice catch.
Maybe get a slug so its lower and doesnt run the risk of bumping, I dont know if the SD40-2 would fit. But yeah, SD40-2 would be great. The feed mill near me purchased a SD40-2 just for their switching operations (which i believe occurs daily with frequent grain trains and other grain locals frequenting that area and the yard there). Cargill in Gainesville GA is the mill.
wouldn't a 6 axle truck be a problem in tight radius curve switching situations?
It appears to me that the two loaded gons were difficult to push because the brakes were still on.
That's possible, I really don't know. Thanks for watching and commenting!
They probably were. It's normal to make a short move like that with the brakes on. Doesn't damage anything.
@@sharkheadism does not damage anything except the tracks and the tyres, and the couplings. Especially on weakly built industrial sidings...and flat spots on wheels hammers any track they run over or simply breaking the coupling. There were plenty of people hanging around to take the brakes off if the wagon wasn't just broken already. They certainly should not be making a habit of it.
@@MrJtappin Moving a car that short of a distance with the brakes tied isn't enough to wear out a flat spot.
@@sharkheadism It will stretch track joints and shear bolts though.
Great catch!
Great job, lets just document the train crews messing up so they can get fired.
If they don't understand taking the brakes off a car then they aren't going to last long anyway.
There's three things I can think of that was probably going thru the conductor's mind when he discovered that the diesel was a little too tall to fit in.
1. Are you @#$%&^* kidding me?
2. Seriously!?
3. I should have called in sick today.
@@leonkernan When you're switching it's easier to just leave the handbrake on for short moves like that. Everyone does it.
Do you want stuff to be overlooked?
This video is 7 years old, I doubt anyone is gonna get smack for something that long ago. I never upload recent videos with train crews in them for this reason, especially if they are getting on/off equipment or doing something a TM will piss his pants over.
it's a shame the raiload hasn't kept this engine in great condition
*In Brazil they are very well used the U23s*
The gon they pulled out had the handbrake still on. I'm surprised they even hooked up the air to the cars.
Hey, that’s a nice video. That loco is a classic.
I web searched it and was surprised to see that Atlas offered I believe an N scale locomotive if that exact loco 2204. Was most likely a few years ago.
Thanks for sharing some PRL history 👍👍👍😎😎😎
Great video! Guess they can straighten out those lift lugs on the radiator section.
Nice sounding horn
Great video
Thomas! You naughty engine...better run before Sir Topham hat sees what you did.
Hola! Muy bueno!!! Cordiales saludos desde Argentina!!!
Interesting how you can barely hear the prime mover burbling. That indicates low HP being used, probably due to the shot traction motors that don’t load properly
What can be any better and entertaining than watching trains.love to have that horn on my car.when there is someone in front of me going very slow on a 40 km speed limit.lay on that horn and scare the shit out of them.
if the motors were rebuilt you could probable leave it in notch 1 and do it about as fast as they are now.
Trains are awsome.
Well Done With The Video So Way Back In 2012. 😊👍🏻
Uèjuueururururrrurrr
Even though it is an old U boat I’m kinda shocked it was having trouble shoving two loaded gons, were the sanders long out of commission? Cool video, love seeing these old GE’s in action
*Nice video. Greetings from Vietnam. Thanks for sharing. Support you!*
Couldnt that bay door on the pole barn been built a little taller?
Nice video.
What an Awesome Video!! Thanks for posting.
Great catch. I was expecting a lot more black smoke belching out of the stack. I worked in C 30-7 coal country when they were being phased out (90's) . They belched lots of smoke. I love the GE sound and exhaust stack fires. Thanks for this video. Note: was the problem with the push stuck brakes or did the loco really have problems getting tractive effort?
Nice stuff thats pretty cool
The engine sounds GREAT!!! So deeply.
Ka-chunk Ka-chunk Ka-chunk.
LOVE IT!!!
I love it's horn
You CANNOT judge clearance from the ground.
So. Much. Screeching!
I somehow enjoy watching trains run on road. I just don't know why
Very nice video, I wish Ireland had freight trains like these
The 10 min video felt more like 3. Nice. Means it was good
Thank you!
Looks like that U-boat wasn't the first engine to hit that building, LOL!!! The door jam above the engine looked "new"
Almost certainly a reflector, rather than a repair -- there are two similar patches on the side of the doorway.
Good job. All the best from Poland, +
I definitely don't miss working on the railroad.