Hayward Phoenix Tips and Troubleshooting
Вставка
- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- The Hayward Phoenix is a Leslie’s Retail only cleaner and is available at your local Leslie’s store. It is in the same Hayward family of cleaners as the Poolcleaner and Aquanaut and note that these parts are the same ones for all three cleaners. The Hayward Phoenix is a solid cleaner but it will wear out over time just like any other product.💕
The one part you will need to change more often than any other is the rubber tires. Depending on how long you run your pool and the pool surface type will determine the tire lifespan. Generally speaking, you should get at least 15 months to 18 months out of each set of tires. For best performance, once the wear mark is reached I suggest changing the tires. For the four-wheel version, I like taking the front tires when worn and just cutting the hump off. Then I put them on the back tires, thus saving $50.00. I then put a new set of tires on the front.
The best thing about this cleaner is that Hayward sells what they call the Lower Body Conversion Kit - which is basically the entire bottom with the gears and driveshaft, plus 2 new wheels. For $120 or so you can have technically a brand new cleaner in 10 minutes.
To learn more about the lower body conversion kit you can watch this video:
• Hayward Poolvergnuegen...
To order parts for the Phoenix you can stop by your local Leslie’s or shop online here:
lesliespool.co...
Another issue that you may run into is that large debris will jam the cleaner. A good way to solve this problem is to remove one or two vanes from the V-Flex turbine. It will still function fine and with the vanes removed larger debris will pass thru. Also in some cases, a small pebble will get under a vane and lift it up causing it to get jammed. Simply remove the vanes and clear out any pebbles.
The wall-climbing ability is dependent on the pool pump size and flow. Basically, if you have poor flow the cleaner will only climb the walls to the coves or partial walls. If you have a powerful pump (1.5 to 2.0 hp) and good flow, by inserting the large suction inlet the cleaner will generally climb to the water line in a plaster and PebbleTec pool. Note that for a Tile or Vinyl pool the wall-climbing ability will be less.
There is always the question of getting the 2-wheel or 4-wheel model. If your pool is more than 8 feet deep get the 4-wheel model. Also, if your pool is large and the skimmer is on the far end, go with the 4-wheel model as it comes with two extra one-meter hose lengths. For a small or medium pool, I suggest the 2-wheel model. I also suggest a 2-wheel model for a large pool with a side port, vacuum port in the middle. But when in doubt, go with the 4-wheel model.
Visit my Website: www.swimmingpoo...
eBook: www.swimmingpo...
UA-cam Video Index: poolmandave.blo... - A list of all of my videos.
Blogger: poolmandave.blo...
Facebook: / swimmingpoollearning
Twitter: / mrdgvb1
Join me on Patreon: / poolguycoaching
Podcast: www.buzzsprout....
Podcast Website: www.thepoolguy...
Coaching Site: poolguycoachin...
Shop at Leslie's: Leslie’s Pool Supplies has been do-it-yourselfers and pool trade professionals trusted partner since 1963, providing quality products and services to make pool care easy and solutions and expertise to do it right. lesliespool.com/?
This video is INCREDIBLY well done! Clear, concise instruction. Simple explanations with nice visual demonstrations. Part #'s to the replacement piece(s) shown on screen, for pausing/screenshot convenience. A price quote & link to purchase said replacement piece & a TON of useful information in the description. I applaud you, Sir. You have won the internet, and restored my faith in humanity.
One of the best DIY explained video's I've seen on UA-cam. Great job!
Excellent video - I needed to see how to remove the wheel bearings which were very tight on mine and this gave me what I needed. If I had seen this video before buying those bearings, I would have just bought the lower body conversion kit. My local pool store had sold me a set of gears (they weren't able to install them) and then I bought the bearings. Cost-wise, I could have gotten the conversion kit for just a little bit more and had an easier time making the updates.
Thank you for the straight forward video. My cleaner's wheels stopped working, I will work on it tonight.
Update, opened her up and easily found she was bound up with some type of string.
Maybe this thing will do a better job from here on out.
Thanks again for the video.
Great video- helped get our little guy back in action
Thanks for the very detailed video! It was very helpful and helped us fix our cleaner.
Perfect video. Thanks for the tips.
Good Video, I tear those apart just replaced gears in one. However, I dont go to leslies they wouldn't even look at the cleaner to confirm my diagnosis of the problem. So I went to a better mom and pop pool store a mile away and got my parts
Whatever works. Glad there is a shop nearby familiar with the cleaner for you.
This is super helpful. Thank you!
Very helpful video. Question though, my Phoenix stays in one spot in the pool. It used to move around randomly, not it just sits in one spot with the wheels moving. What's causing that? Thanks!
I would take it out and manually spin the wheels. See if their is nay slippage. It should operate just like in the pool when you manually spin the wheels.
My cleaner won't move. There's suction in the cleaner and also in the wall. I took the cover off and the veins would get stuck, and the wheels wouldn't move. I'm told it needs suction to move, but it doesn't move. The filter is fine. Could it be the black rod that connects to both wheels or an alignment issue?
It could be a vane in the turbine is getting stuck.
Great video! Thank you
Love your videos, I had a question my sweeper is just like this one in the video but grey. When I come out to the pool it’s not moving until I grab the hose then it’s starts working like something inside is not lined up and I think it’s the turbines getting caught from sliding out of the Channel. Do you suggest anything to fix an issue like this have you expirecnced this with cleaners you’ve encountered? Thank you
Remove a couple of the turbines and see if that helps.
@@SPL thank you so much I’ll give it a try
@@SPL didn’t work actually made it not run at all if that tells you anything. Maybe not enough power I have variable
Speed motor but run it at the higher RPMS
Try running it at 3100 Rpm
Thank you!
So if my vac it’s climbing too high on wall and sucking air every 5 minutes. I just need new treads? With the bump. Pretty sure I have no bumps - makes my dogs crazy - like a monster s coming out.
Yes, new tires with the humps on them. That will solve the issue.
We've had this for a good 2 seasons and never use it because it ALWAYS tips over and gets stuck on its side. Any answers for resolving that issue?
The position of the floats on the 1st hose is key. Try moving them down so it is 10 inches from the cleaner head. See if that helps.
My hose will not connect to the cover, there are two washer like parts and when I connect the hose the vacuum vibrates and if I hold the hose in the connection on the vacuum side falls into the machine.
My Hayward flips over on its side or on its top constantly. I have the floats 10 inches from the cleaner-still does it. Any other suggestions. Wheels move fine, new tires. Can't figure out what is wrong..
Might need more hoses.
My phoenix keeps getting stuck on the filters in the deep end of the pool..is there a way to raise the wheels so it travels freely over them?? Ty
Not many solutions for that. The only cleaner that works well with large main drains is the Polaris MAXX sold at Leslie's.
I took my Aquanaut apart and found that the last 2 of the 5 reduction gears aren’t spinning. How do I take those apart to change them?
Try ordering the Lower-Body Conversion Kit.
Thank you
I have the cleaner just spin in one spot. I noticed that the wheels are turning in different directions. What could be causing that?
It could be the gears are worn out. Hard to say without knowing how old the cleaner is.
Where can I get those parts, great video thanks
Online or at your local pool store. You can look for Hayward Aquanaut or Hayward PoolCleaner parts as they are the same machine with a different shell.
Can this be used on an in ground vinyl pool?
I have read that rollers for hand cleaner should not be used in vinyl pool as it can tear the vinyl.
Would say not the best cleaner for that. Try a Zodiac Ranger instead.
So mine has gotten worse. Ive tried adjusting it at the side port of pool and it still is a no go. It sits at bottom unless i nudge it. Then it goes extremely slow for a second and stops completely. I replaced rubber tread it did nothing. Took it apart and it spins fine. Any ideas
Might need the rebuild kit at this point.
@@SPL just going to get the two wheel version. The 4 wheel wasn't as great as it was advertised
I have a question, Recently installed a new Sta Rite max flo running 2" PVC, have a seeping at two inch union. O ring was lubed and hand tightened but the drip remains.
You will need to tighten the union with two wrenches and then the drip should stop.
Good video I just recently bought one . Can you give tips on how to creat more suction. I have a variable speed pump and even when I put it on the 4th and highest setting the aqua naught is very slow. I will try to change the bottom piece tomorrow and see how that works
It depends on where it is connect in the pool. Typically 2600 RPM will get it moving fine. You just need to make adjustments at the skimmer or sideport.
What can I do if my pool cleaner only moves forward but gets stuck to move in reverse.
If it is more that 4 years old the Lower Body conversion Kit will fix any gear issues.
Awesome
Are you in southern CA? What area do you service? I could really use your help.
Yes, San Gabriel Valley. But i have guys in my group all over the state.
How do you disconnect the hose from the cleaner?
Pull hard
What happens if a wheel brakes off? It's the plastic piece that goes in the middle of the bearings hold the wheel on.
That is a replaceable part. Take it into your local Leslie's and they will fix it.
@@SPL Any idea on how much that should cost?
Mine only stays in the deep end. Getting rid of it
Notice, he didn't say nor did he show the difficult part of putting the skirts back in.
It's not too difficult. The older units were much worse.
What are the sizes of the hoses?
1 meter each
In the video description, the narrator mentions that when it is time to replace the tires on the four wheel version, to save a little money, he purchases a new pair of tires which he will use on the front of the cleaner, and he will continue to use the front tires by cutting off the single nub on each one, and then rotating them to the back wheels. I have a question that stems from his choice of words and phrasing. He states, " For the four-wheel version, I like taking the front tires when worn and just cutting the hump off. Then I put them on the back tires, thus saving $50.00. I then put a new set of tires on the front." However, it is worded such that he is taking the front tires, cutting off their nubs, and the placing them over the rear tires, which could actually be the case. However, I'm guessing he actually removes the old rear tires, and then replaces with the old front ones after the nubs have been cut off. So, which is it? Literally as you stated, ending up with the old front tires as the outer layer of the old rear tires . . . or did he misspeak somewhat by choosing some lingual phrasing that without making any assumptions can lead to confusion, and misunderstanding . . . or coupled with some assumption(s), it could still lead to either confusion or misunderstanding. It could go either way, so Mr. Narrator, pool-guy, dude, could you please elaborate by definitively stating which case it is? Much gratitude in advance!
Remove rear tires. Remove old front tires. Cut the humps off of the old front tires. Put those on the rear. Put new tires on the front. Since the video was published there have been a lot of generic tire manufacturers so the replacement cost is relatively cheap now.