DO I LIKE MULTIVERSUS NOW?
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What are your thoughts on Multiversus? Would really like to here your thoughts on this game!
I genuinely like the game, but not more than Smash. The game does feel slow (slower than beta somehow) and look slow, but I’m fine with the speed though I would like a small speed up. When you hit a combo, it feels great, I like Rifts though I hope they fix the requirements for some of them, I like parries in this game more than Ultimate, using airdodging aggressively is fun and cool, the characters interest me more than Smash’s since I’m a huge comic book fan so knowing DC is going to get a lot of characters with great movesets has got me incredibly hyped. However, some downsides are the UI being kinda sloppy and slowness, even if I am okay with it. I’m fine with the grind for getting the characters, music is mid for now, but not using characters I don’t own in training mode sucks, hitlag is wack, mashing is annoying, and the buffer system really sucks and I hope they change that quickly. I really hope MVS gets its needed updates because it looks so promising and having another crossover fighter contend with Nintendo since this genre shouldn’t just be one game being dominant and it could cause Nintendo to advance better with their own IP. Hearing the devs genuinely care about this game gives me hope for its future and I really wish the team the best of luck. (I need Marvel characters in this game as well, so don’t die yet, MVS… or for awhile at least).
I actually really like it, it feels really easy and accessible for me and I feel like I can actually space really really well and actually read people and properly stay at a range. Of course 1v1 kinda sucks but 2v2s is actually amazing imo
@@maskkid I completely agree with you. Other than I do like is more than smash. The characters in this game are amazing the game design in them is so well thought out and creative. They really do put soo much love in this game with all the little details. I love all the characters I watch so many of these shows/cartoons/movies. I think the game would benefit with being faster. I think 1.25 to 1.5 times faster would benefit it faster than that could mess up 2v2 because it is already soo chaotic at times. I play a lot of 2v2s with my brother and best friend.
I enjoy MVS! There’s actual combos that you don’t need complicated tech or speed to pull off. It’s slower now but the speed isn’t really an issue in my opinion even though I wouldn’t mind it being faster. Rn the issue is the UI, choppy connection, and missing options and features that were previously in Beta. Other than that, MVS is a game I’m willing to dump time into. I’m hoping for more characters and updates for overall health of the game. PFG Devs actually listen to its community so I have no doubt the changes will come.
Tbh i just like having a platform fighter that feels inheritly different to the game i've been playing since december 2018.
A lot of the cons you mentioned such as the slowness of the game, the cooldowns and the floatiness give the game a different feeling to Smash, and i like that.
You can give a different feeling to the game without doing that though, look at Brawlhalla, Rivals and NASB. They ALL feel different and still make the gameplay fun and snappy.
@@PurposeDriven7_ I played Brawlhalla and didn't have much fun with it, and I've heard the Nickelodeon games are a buggy messes.
Rivals I've never tried tho.
@@imprudentdev1503NASB 2 is a bit buggy, but it is well worth it imo, it’s just the community is so small now because everyone was scared off by the reception (not necessarily the execution) or NASB 1. That game is seeing a resurgence of people who recognize it as an actually well done melee style game, very fast and techy, while the sequel will appeal to people who are more used to current day smash games, but it has a decently fast pace and plenty of tech with the slime mechanic. It feels incredible honestly. I think both NASB 2 and Multi are great in there own ways, all said
@@imprudentdev1503 Multiversus has tons more bugs than NASB 2, NASB 2s pacing and flow of the game is very smooth and the slime mechanic is a game changer for platform brawlers. Is basically where Multiversus got its meter inspiration from. Rivals 2 is easily one of the best platformers made. There are NO bugs m, I personally have the played the beta and it’s in better shape than many brawlers that are in full release. Rivals 2 is quite possibly the best platform brawler I’ve played.
watching banana guard dodge back dash attack repeat feels so bad when you know what hes gonna do but my character isnt fast enough to punish.
LOL you actually articulated perfectly so many of the issues i had with the game. Everyone's busy hating on the live service crap (rightfully so) but you're the first one who I've seen actually break down why the game just feels clunky. Everyone says it's "slow" but as you pointed out there's so many more issues besides just the overall speed
Still think Rivals will always be the best Smash clone personally
Dont get me wrong rivals is the best and is an awesome game. But why does every other platform fighter feel like the devs didn’t test anything or want to do anything unique
Because they for some reason want to make a melee clone
Despite the fact no one actually asked for a melee clone
@@Mintininja_SSB The elemental system is kinda cool thematically. Like every air element themed character being good in the air&having multiple jumps and so on. An the terrain stuff is prety cool
Yeah, they don't have the licensing of MVS / NASB but they also don't have a publisher who's gonna ruin everything lol
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Yooo, new Intro! Neat!
Let me just start by saying thank you for being the voice of the community and addressing this. We need more big content creators to at least acknowledge these things so that they became more aware to the dev team and community as a whole. I had 350 hours in the beta and played almost every day with my roommate. We patiently waited during the 10 months the game was down and highly anticipated its return. I was certainly prepared to spend hours grinding the game back out again. However me and my roommate INSTANTLY stopped playing upon its return. I agree with every single thing presented in this video but there are some things I desperately need to reiterate:
1. Don't you think I would've bought every character in the beta with my mountain of gold had I known it would be removed, and compensated with actual garbage? Now I'm stuck with a ton of characters locked where instead I easily could've purchased them all previously. They took away gold in exchange for confusing fighter currencies which is not nearly enough of a compensation when, like I said, I could've effortlessly bought all the fighters previously. But now I'm being punished by my decision to not buy them.
2. It is NOT fun at all to have 30+ frame delays for most moves in the game. The speed is atrocious and utter garbage and is a total slog to play though. The end lag / start up times for every move on every character (including jump speed) makes the game inherently feel unresponsive and unfun to play. Reaction time should be rewarded in a fighting game which is a concept that suffers with the new slow state. The current speed feels more like a chess match with how back and forth the gameplay is, instead of a much more fun faster paced feel.
3. In the beta, simply the more you played, the more you gained; yet that whole idea is completely non-existent in this new version. You're rewarded just the same amount if you played 100 hours versus someone who plays a character for 2 hours (excluding missions). Where is the incentive? Am I supposed to keep playing just to not have anything to work towards? Its a completely backwards and broken system. Look at some of the most popular free long term based games, such as any of Supercells mobile games. Free games, such as clash of clans or fortnite, are wildly popular because every single day there is something to strive towards and accomplish, which is not really the case for this game. And even IF there was something to work for like higher ranks on your characters, you're not gonna have fun doing it anyways when the movement is unplayable.
4. There is absolutely ZERO justification for removing end game stats, leaderboards, exp gained from battles, and individual fighter ranks. Genuinely I see no justification for taking away something every person agreed was a good thing. The direction the dev team took with the mountain of disagreeable changes is laughable. Who thinks TAKING AWAY content is better than leaving it in or adding it? Its completely illogical and unnecessary.
5. Overall, its safe to say that I was heart wrenched and hugely disappointed upon returning to this state of the game after a long 10 month wait. These are issues me and many other people surely agree upon and I know at least in my case, there's no reason I would want to play this game knowing how much better it was/ could've been. Its just like when someone transitions from 60 to 120 fps. Once you experience greatness, you never want to go back. This game unfortunately gave us an incredibly fun and simply designed beta, including its very user friendly and intuitive UI, and instead reverted to a fortnite menu copy with way too many buttons, and numerous issues and changes that were either entirely unnecessary or straight up bad.
I appreciate anyone who took time to read this. I am hugely passionate about this game, but until most, if not all of these changes are at least acknowledged or fixed, I don't see myself returning to this hot garbage game state.
3:55 I was trying to explain this to someone cooldowns don’t work in platform fighters cause it slows down the gameplay image if snake could only use 2 grenades every 10 seconds or if Olimar couldn’t pluck pickmen after they die and only could do it every 10 seconds
I was watching coneys stream on launch and he also got the invisible Tom glitch. This game is fucked.
Game is fucked because of issues that can be fixed in one patch 🤦🏿♂️
I think MVS character move sets are some of the most creative and fun out there. I’m enjoying the game but obviously not enjoying the choppy/connection issues. I’m looking forward to more characters and features. I know the PFG Devs listen to the community and are already addressing many of the issues brought up behind stage.
Great list! I think I he cons, like specifically the offstage resource one, I get the chat feeling some way about it but it’s not smash, and it’s ok for things to feel like not smash. My gosh that buffet sounds garbo.
Dabuz, You're so talented! I had to hit the like button!
Should’ve just uploaded the leffen clip of “I wonder what dabuz thinks of this game” goes onto your livestream and you go “UHHHHHHH”
Did that really happen? Do you have the clip? Lol
You can tell they put a love of love into the excessive, aggressive monitization.
Love the new intro!
didnt knew they added invisible man in multiversus
4:48 LMAO
Good vid. I’d like to see the game do well. I’d say hold off on buying skins (I’m waiting on the ones I got from the beta to get added back to my account). 2v2s are enjoyable to watch
oh yeah the UI is horrible, the first time I boot it up I had no idea what to do and it still feels clunky and all the notifications are very annoying
ui has def improved its easier to do anything imo currency system is perfect if you know how it works
This game fails the basics so hard. There's extremely few universal techniques and options in the game. Character specific skills, while creative, don't make up for the lack of option that people take for granted in Smash. I could probably write 2-4 paragraphs worth of offensive, defensive, and mobility options available in ultimate that people would simply categorize as the "game engine" or "game feel". Take simply the ledge options: jump from ledge, roll from ledge, neutral get up, drop from ledge, attack from ledge, ledge trumping, ledge grab limit, use of ledge invincibility, ledge regrab, 2 framing, etc.
There's so many little things that have to be purposefully coded that people don't think about and which tbh the devs of Multiversus didn't consider developing or consider developing an alternative for in their game. It's just very basic and the things they did change makes the game feel less punishing and less in your control. The landing not canceling aerials is a perfect example. This may be less punishing for players but it actually ends up removing options for players. For instance, techniques like drag-down aerials or first hit aerials can no longer be performed.
I like multiversus
If you played Smash Bros for years, this game gaslights you into thinking you suck at platform fighters. The points you made prove it: its mashy & inconsistent with several moves
Some say "i like the slowness & the floatiness cuz it helps me plan out"
Dude, what's the point of planning when you just grab any character & mash all the attacks making it impossible for the opponent to get in?
Try lebron he is similar to Olimar
Multiversus is here!
Dabugs
This game has looked boring as hell since day one. It’s like you’re fighting underwater 🤣
But hey, at least they didn’t try to be a low effort melee rip-off.
Honestly, I personally disagree with almost all of your subjective cons of the game. I really like every character being unique and not all having the exact same capabilities (ie. some up tilts charge, some don't). This causes you to play a character with a charge and one without differently, like prioritizing different setups or playstyles to use each character to their strengths. I also really enjoy playing around the cooldown system and having multiple moves on the same bind. I find it fun to plan out when I want to use a move so I have the off-cooldown move or hold the cooldown move for when I need it. I feel like these things add a lot of nuance to strategy and playstyle. I've played enough smash; I really like having another platform fighter that lets me think differently and provides a unique experience to smash. I'd rather go play smash if that's what I'm in the mood for rather than try to align the design choices in this game with those in smash.
Not saying you're wrong, but there are those of us out there who love the design of the game!
Who do you play in Multiverse
hi
a year later and this game is still a broken mess and a load of fuck, even nasb 2 made significant improvements
This guy hit all my complaints on the head. This is just a badly designed fighting game at its core. Too slow, huge buffer, gigantic delay, visuals do not match hotboxes, poor defensive options, and attacks have virtually no recovery
Game is better than smash ult
Respectfully hell nah