Making and Unmaking of a Springbok Coach: Ian McIntosh

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  • Опубліковано 29 тра 2024
  • We delve into the storied career of former Springbok Rugby coach Ian McIntosh. In a candid and revealing conversation, Mac opens up about his Direct Rugby philosophy, the ups and downs of his tenure, and the moments that defined his time as Bok boss. Get an inside look at the triumphs, challenges and personal reflections of a rugby coaching legend.
    00:00 Introduction by Peter
    00:35 Journey from Rhodesia-Zimbabwe to South Africa
    01:35 Chances of becoming Springboks coach
    07:15 Direct Rugby
    10:36 Selecting Francois Pienaar as captain
    11:21 First Test as Springboks coach
    12:38 Beating the Wallabies in Australia
    13:34 Joys and perils of touring Argentina
    14:55 Losing to England at Loftus
    17:03 Tough tour to New Zealand
    18:40 Johann Le Roux bites Sean Fitzpatrick’s ear
    20:08 Sacked as Springboks coach
    22:15 Funny moment involving Johan Allan
    Peter says: I love the Springboks and rugby is one of my favourite sports. Although as a sports journalist I am supposed to remain neutral, I always like to point out that before I became a professional, I was just a big fan! I hold a Masters Degree in International Journalism so at least you know I should be able to ask a good question or two! My dream is to do this UA-cam Channel permanently. You can help me out by liking the videos, subscribing to the channel and hitting the notification bell. You can subscribe here: / @frontrowrugby
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    ►Business Enquiries: peter@frontrowrugby.co.za
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  • @TheCHRISUM
    @TheCHRISUM Рік тому +6

    RIP COACH MAC

  • @sakabula2357
    @sakabula2357 Рік тому +4

    Rest in peace Big Mac...Never forgotten...

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому +1

      A champion of a coach! A pioneeer and a gentleman. May his soul rest in peace.

  • @benvaneeden1076
    @benvaneeden1076 Рік тому +5

    Ian McIntosh was one of the great coaches - really enjoyed this interview !!!

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому

      Hi Ben ... always fun seeing you in the comments. Thank you so much for those kind words! So pleased you enjoyed it.

  • @314159265mangler
    @314159265mangler Рік тому +4

    Given that Mac has sadly passed on, this interview was very timely.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому +4

      You can imagine how I was feeling earlier when I heard the news. It's actually possible this was the last interview Mac gave before he passed. If that is indeed the case what an honour! A great coach, a pioneer and a legend!

  • @stevenmaritz2681
    @stevenmaritz2681 Рік тому +1

    Great coach that formerly moved the old Natal and the Sharks into their rightful place in south African rugby.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому

      Absolutely. The man who made the Sharks what they are today. Lovely to have had him on before he passed as well.

  • @francisplatt93
    @francisplatt93 Рік тому +1

    I am glad Mac calls it Rhodesia because Rhodesia was a fine fine country. It took exactly 90 years to build but as soon as it became Zimbabwe under communist rule - it nose dived. But Mac was a great great coach, atrue legend and a blessing to us here in Natal.

  • @WarrenFelix
    @WarrenFelix Рік тому

    Rest easy Big Mac. ❤️🙏

  • @at7512
    @at7512 Рік тому +2

    Wonderful coach, wonderful human.. enjoyed hearing from Mac again..👌🏽

  • @af9165
    @af9165 Рік тому +2

    Mac was an excellent coach. Read that Kitch stated that the Boks would have still won the 95 WC with Mac as coach. That is the regard Kitch had for Mac. Also, a player that I rated highly was Johan le Roux. He was an excellent tighthead. Very strong scrummager.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому

      Mac added tremendous value to South African rugby. No one can deny that and I think especially for Sharks fans he is a very special man.
      Wonderful humility shown there by Kitch as well hey!
      Johan Le Roux - who knows what might have been because as you say he was a very strong scrummager and that's what you want at tighthead.

  • @jeremyrogers4839
    @jeremyrogers4839 Рік тому +1

    Great interview! Was in Matric in Natal in 90 when Natal beat Northern Transvaal to win the Currie Cup. We all had a banana giving a bull in the bumb on our school shirts. RIP Legend!

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому

      So glad you enjoyed it, Jeremy. Province won a Currie Cup in my matric year so I can relate to how special that feeling is. It just adds to what is already a great year in my opinion!
      Love those school shirts! hahahaha!

  • @gordonross160
    @gordonross160 Рік тому +2

    Mac, you're a star. South Africa cut their own throats by not making maximum use of you

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому

      Underused and certainly underappreciated outside of Durban.

  • @stefandebruin8118
    @stefandebruin8118 Рік тому +1

    His death was a great loss. R.I.P, legend!!

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому +1

      It really was. One of the great men of South African rugby. Who knows what he might have achieved as Bok coach if had been backed?

  • @garethm4800
    @garethm4800 Рік тому +2

    What a Mac!! So sad to hear him speak about his Bok coaching sentence! The sad reality is all of us Mac followers in Dbn knew that as deserving as he was, he wouldn't be around in that position long and dare I say (with no disrespect), it probably was the biggest influence in aligning SA to win 95 because Kitch was able to dictate his terms and also knew that those terms would end after the tournament and resigning thereafter from the hospital job (tip of the hat great Kitch). The redeeming grace is Mac's pedigree and class stood the test of time and he is regarded as a great as echoed by all who played for him and to the ends of the earth, lol. He should reapply when the job comes up again but under the name of Benjamin Button because he looks 28 years younger now than the pic shown on the show with President Mandela (in 1993/4)....

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому +1

      Great commentary, Gareth! I think you're on the mark when you say Mac's sacking likely paved the way for that 1995 Rugby World Cup win. Perhaps in an alternative scenario Mac could/should have come back post-95 and then maybe Mallett would have taken over after the 1999 RWC. But we'll never know!
      And yes, incredible how Mac seems to have mastered the art of reverse aging!

  • @rif9576
    @rif9576 Рік тому +1

    This was another great interview, it is clear that any National coaching job is difficult. You just get remunerated for it now. Perhaps I am an idealist but provincialism seems to be a thing of the past in terms of the team engagement. Even in terms of supporters. Once you pull on the Springbok jersey you are nationally loved. When you have the provincial jersey on my love for you might be slightly diminished.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому

      Thank you so much for the compliments - it really does mean a lot!
      I think you are right. These days the provincialism aspect is hardly even there. That said, my daughter is still not allowed to support the Blue Bulls ;-)

    • @rif9576
      @rif9576 Рік тому +1

      @@frontrowrugby LOL! This made my day. If she makes good life choices she won’t be 🤣 to all the Blue Bulls I jest, I am just salty that 2000s Super Rugby you guys were titans and my poor Stormers were in a terrible drought.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому

      @@rif9576 Haha, let's hope so!
      Let's face it, one of the reasons we are/were so salty is because they were the best at the time and our boys were not up to scratch.

    • @rif9576
      @rif9576 Рік тому +1

      @@frontrowrugby I have blocked out everything between 2002 and 2012. Selective amnesia if we need to put a name to it.
      I didn’t hate Alister Coetzee, he was really great with spotting talent we just couldn’t clear the bar 😫😫 I still think about Alan Solomons fondly. He is hopefully in good health coz he is still in my prayers 😃

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому

      @@rif9576 Selective amnesia indeed!
      Allister did well with Province. He won a couple of Currie Cups and he took the Stormers close in Super Rugby. It's a pity.
      As for Solly, I think he could have been a Bok coach but there were some other things that he did that didn't help his case. We'll never forget the 1999 Super 12!

  • @bradleyeaton228
    @bradleyeaton228 Місяць тому

    When are you interviewing Nick Mallett?

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Місяць тому

      I'll try to get him on. The end goal is to have everyone on eventually. One at a time.

  • @1414rebel
    @1414rebel Рік тому +1

    james small was try scoring boss for 1996

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому

      Would you like to guess how happy I was when James Small came to Western Province in 1997? ;-)

  • @1414rebel
    @1414rebel Рік тому +1

    The face of Rugby
    FIJI.
    Jp Pietersen saved us in that match.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому

      Mac was probably handed the toughest sequence of matches as a Bok coach - tours to Australia and New Zealand. Hosting France and England. He only coached 12 Tests and 10 of them were against that lot. And coming straight out of isolation he hardly stood a chance.
      Fiji - Oh yes! And good thing JP was there! Did you see I have an interview with JP as well from a few weeks ago?

    • @sakabula2357
      @sakabula2357 Рік тому +1

      Don't forget about Danie Rossouw...

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому +1

      @@sakabula2357 A proper beast of a player!

    • @1414rebel
      @1414rebel Рік тому

      @@sakabula2357 could play 6,7,8,5 and 4.
      Added to that the try saving tackle in the 07' world cup final.
      He is a total hall of famer.

  • @SupremeBros2012
    @SupremeBros2012 Рік тому +1

    Definitely Fiji in a scary affair especially after NZ, Australia and Wales were brushed aside few days before

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому

      Oh yes! You can say that again. The Fijians gave us a proper scare that day in Marseille.

  • @thomasdeetlefs2162
    @thomasdeetlefs2162 Рік тому +1

    One would have to wonder, what would springbok rugby be if those running the thing would put the team first, and forget the politics and the ulterior motives? Yes, I know I am talking pie in the sky, and this is something that would never happen, but still. Still think Mac was a great coach, he managed to get great results with natal without some of the same resources as the old Transvaal and Northerns. My only question is, what is your secret, for getting all these folks to come and speak to you on your channel? :)

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому

      Hi Thomas. That's often been the achilles heel in all our sports - administrators who bumble their way through everything! I'm convinced we could dominate rugby, cricket, football, boxing and even have a tennis Grand Slam champion with some Olympic champions for good measure if we had better administrators!
      I agree Mac was a great coach and especially for those who support the Sharks he is a very special man!
      My secret to getting these folks on my channel? Haha ... I ask nicely!
      But seriously I'm actually a journalist (a real one) and I have a few contacts. I'm really pleased that you're impressed by my work and let me say (without getting too cocky) if you're impressed by what I've done so far, wait til you see what I have planned for the World Cup! (Provided my guests all say yes, of course!)

    • @sakabula2357
      @sakabula2357 Рік тому +1

      @@frontrowrugby That World Cup plan sounds very promising....can't wait...

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому +1

      @@sakabula2357 Haha, now I'm under pressure to deliver!

  • @bbviljoen1153
    @bbviljoen1153 Рік тому +2

    Fiji?

  • @stoneysrugga2760
    @stoneysrugga2760 Рік тому +1

    Fiji

  • @sakabula2357
    @sakabula2357 Рік тому +1

    There was a few times I thought Mac is going to have a heart attack right there next to the field...to say he got worked up is a bit of an understatement...

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому +1

      Haha, yes! Sometimes it looked like he had seen a ghost. But what a legend!

  • @seanpinkey8798
    @seanpinkey8798 Рік тому +1

    Fiji I think?

  • @deniscoyne5671
    @deniscoyne5671 Рік тому +1

    Wales

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому

      Remember Fiji actually beat Wales in the pool stage to knock the Welsh out. And so we played the Fijians instead.

    • @Ash0010
      @Ash0010 Рік тому +1

      That was in 2015.

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому

      Are you maybe thinking of Wales beating England to knock the English out in 2015? Or are talking about different things :-)

    • @deniscoyne5671
      @deniscoyne5671 Рік тому +1

      @@frontrowrugby no, I got the wrong world cup :)

    • @Ash0010
      @Ash0010 Рік тому +1

      @@frontrowrugby SA didn't pay Wales in 2007, we played them in 2011 (pool stages) in the 2015 Quarter Final where FDP scored the final try to knock them out and of course when we played them in the closely contested 2019 semi-final.

  • @dorettekotze2061
    @dorettekotze2061 Рік тому +1

    he said the Afrikaaners basicaly was a problem. Wel I am an Afrikaaner and proud to be. Why did you come to SA?

    • @frontrowrugby
      @frontrowrugby  Рік тому +2

      Hi Dorette. Thanks for commenting. It's interesting how we've had guys come to South Africa from Zimbabwe and struggle with the language and sometimes even the culture. But I think we'd agree Mac added value to rugby in our country ... especially if you're a Sharks supporter.

    • @rif9576
      @rif9576 Рік тому +1

      Hi Dorette, I think it may have been difficult for Mac in terms of the demographics and the challenges he faced during his tenure. He was offered a job they didn’t real want him to take and from his view was never given the opportunity to coach the team the way he wanted to. The guys did as they pleased and he had no autonomy. I think SA rugby in early 90s was particularly difficult terrain to navigate and to a degree one can sympathise with him. I am not saying what he is saying is right but that was his experience. Why did he come to SA same reason my forefathers came here years ago. It was an opportunity to live a better life.

  • @riaanbotes3509
    @riaanbotes3509 24 дні тому

    n Man wat niks weet van sa rugby nie...n skande dat hy n springbok baadjie dra

  • @inomorethanu3244
    @inomorethanu3244 Рік тому +1

    Fiji