THE MARTIAL CAMP 2020 Video Highlights • Taiji Quan | Wing Chun | 5 Ancestors Fist | Prana Dynamics
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Watch the video highlights from the 14-day internal martial arts training camp held in Chiang Mai Thailand. Showcasing teaching moments from Adam Mizner, Nima King, Yap Boh Heong, Liang De Hua, and Huai Hsiang Wang. #THEMARTIALCAMP
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For the last five years, I have been traveling Southeast Asia, researching different martial arts, and filming countless interviews, so that I can share the 'secret knowledge' of the masters with my followers. As a result of my experience, I have decided to host a once in a lifetime event, bringing together several teachers at one event, so that people from all around the world can travel to Thailand and experience the internal arts first hand. Kieren, The Martial Man.
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U should host this in the US 1 time
@@Swaggdocta23 as nice as that would be, the event works much better in Thailand.
Me, me, I wanna go. 🖐🏼
@@Swaggdocta23 Why ???
Wang likes hurting people. I've seen him before. When someone lets you demonstrated on them, you should stop when they tap. He'll do it to the wrong person one of these days.
These are modern masters. Imagine what ancient masters were capable of.
Lol none of this garbage is impressive. These techniques don't work and are more likely to get you killed or hurt bad. You wouldn't bring a super soaker to a gun fight would you?
Like these guys, not a lot. When you surround yourself with people that are gullible enough to believe in this stuff and never test it against martial arts that are proven to work then they start to believe they are untouchable, but they are utter charlatans.
@@odinson8552 Exactly
@brandontodd14 geez, who said internal arts are solely for fighting. Better do boxing or muay thai for that purpose.
Congrats on another successful internal camp! Rare teachers.
ToddFrom RichardsonTx thank you
I really enjoyed watching this. If I was a young man I would say "this shit is dope!" XD
This is one of the few channels that actually has explanations in plain English of how internal martial arts works.
You mean how they...don't.....work.
If you are even the slightest bit intrigued or into internal martial arts BOOK NOW!!!!!
Highly recommend. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
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2020 Nima King is a much more powerful internal master than he was a few years ago
@@redonetwo1 So that's who this guy is, a Chui Sheong Tin disciple. Figures, what with the Aussie accent and all. CST isn't so well known here in the States, mind you. And the super internal approach seems pretty sketchy. If I lived on that side of the globe, I think I'd be more interested in what Alan Orr has to offer. His boys (and girls) can fight in the real world!
@@VTSifuSteve Lmao, learning personally from one of CSTs best students has shown me how real this stuff is, and actually not very hard to attain, if you're given the correct set of instructions. Nima was always going off translators and touch/feel from CST, as CST couldn't speak any English. Alan Orr doesn't even begin to approach Nima or any of the internal practitioners here. No joke, if we unleash the full extent of our force, we can tear peoples limbs off, much the same as most animals can, unfortunately humans have a conscious mind that likes to interfere making this hard to learn for some people that are unable to shut their mind up and allow it to focus properly, others, like myself and my master (CST's best student in my opinion), picked it up very quickly. Internal is for some people, and not for others, same for external. Work with what you've been given, the body, the mind, all of it, and find what works best for you. There's enough martial arts out there to cater to every type of person and their physical and mental makeups. :)
@@inspiringothers7197 Tear people's limbs off? That's horrifying! I hope you personally did not have to witness such a spectacle. That in itself would be quite traumatic.
@@VTSifuSteve Haha of course not! But it's possible. This amount of power would never be used normally. Really the only instance you would unleash all of your force would be when you're about to be killed, and the only way out is to kill the other person first. Half of my force hits you in the chest(heart side), I will stop your heart, this is why we're not allowed to use anything more than 30% of our force for demos, otherwise the force begins to become very destructive.
VTSifuSteve and all you guys in the states are doing William Cheung style , now that’s sketchy
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Chi kung.
Incredible show .
Thank U
The Martial Man.
...well... more art than martial...
@@timomathes4261 This.
Wtf did I just witness at 5:30? Home boy just got possessed 😆
Wanna talk about internal chi power?...Your comment just made me blow my drink right out my nose!!!! Now that's some power!
Student playing up the masters force is what was happening. The correct use of body mass (due to releasing tension) does not magically manifest into being able to "possess" someone, or lightly touch them and move them down to the floor, and have them convulsing on the floor afterwards, I don't get why some students do this when there is a camera around, it only adds to the suspicion of people who haven't felt this force before. Oh well, there will always be people like this, a couple of people like reacting to my force in strange ways like this as well, whereas the vast majority of people I demo this on, or the people I teach, outside of 2 people, everybody else reacts normally and as expected. I tend to just ignore what's happening in these videos when students overplay the force being used, as I know it's a drastic overreaction.
@@inspiringothers7197 So is it safe to say what they're doing is "shadowboxing" when they are showing demonstrations slow?
Fantastic footage from a great channel 😀
Thank you!
super nice video. the kindness of the teachers is touching. motivates me to practice. thank you all of you!
@@kendm21 maybe.
I'm afraid though it will take more from me than what these people can offer me.
Thank you, making the world a bit of a better place to live in. 🙏
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Excellent preview as usual...thanks
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Incredible! The knowledge gained in these events is priceless 🙏
Thank you. The participants left the camp with a wealth of knowledge and skill after the two weeks of intensive training.
Try pricey
@@brandontodd14 🤣 and that
This is absolutely incredible. I'm excited to say that I will be attending the camp in 2021, I just booked my spot! I'm looking forward to learning from the talent that will be there!
Alex Lee congratulations. You will love it.
you got to be kidding
Get a refund and go to Tiger Muay Thai for 2 weeks. This garbage is a scam and completely ineffective.
We need to have Xu Xiaodong to pay a visit to these instructors and see how effective their art is.
Gabar-GCS I can’t understand why people are into this. If you want to train martial arts and don’t want it to be too rough do bjj
Hell yeah! Let's take up a collection and enroll him in the next one of these seminars! I'm po but I'd pay $$$ to see that video!
Gabar-GCS 3:43
@@urinater proves nothing, willing and none full resisting partner. On surface, every system looks "effective" when the instructor demonstrates the same exact thing, showing their moves on a student or a full compliant attendee.
Gabar-GCS it’s called learning ....
Yap Boh Heong is just too lovely, what a Guy, watched a few videos with him, one of the nicest people I have witnessed. ...his understanding of the body etc, goes without saying
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@THE MARTIAL MAN Very nice music man!!!! :-)
Tony Champion thanks! Does it suit the video?
@@THEMARTIALMAN Perfectly suits. Thank you for your efforts.
I agree! Fantastic music man! So fantastic that sometimes I forgot there's a music going, it blends so perfectly
Adam sifu’s image much better than before. Really relaxed
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Master Yah Boh Heong
His wumei style is very rare style.
Fascinating and beautiful to watch, I loved to have been there, but this video really highlights to 'magic' of chi.
Thank you for creating and posting this video.
Ps I really can't understand how one could dislike this video, but anyway that's a loss for them 🙄😉
People criticize and dislike what they don't understand. The internal art is new to westerners. It looks like a joke to most. If you are smart you are open to knew things. The ability to control internal energy looks very interesting to me. I have so many questions. A big one is why are most masters thin and look like they don't eat much. I don't mean that in any insulting way. It's just that internal masters do not usually talk much about fighting. They show the obvious benefits but do not show any fighting. Knowing how to control this energy alone would end a fight very quickly and probably to use it in mma is up to the individual, and so far no mma fighter has used it, that I know of. I think n internal practitioner might not be welcome in mma because he would destroy other fighters in a very one sided battle, which is not necessarily fun to watch. So study of internals would become necessary in order to be competitive. I suppose in old China, the strongest masters were internal practitioners at least to some extent. Those movies with the flying and crazy moves is not at far fetched as I once thought. One question is whether the chi is really just electrical energy. The brain functions on electricity so if one could control that electricity and direct it into another persons body, it could short circuit them. That's a thought because no one really explains or knows whT chi really is. Energy? It's not magic
@@perrypelican9476 That's pure fantasy. There are no records of "internal" stylists, at least not in the way you think of it, using chi to win fights. There are records of xingyi and yi chuan guys winning, but it was because they hit hard and had good tactics and sparres. A group of 5 Tai chi practitioners went to fight the Thais in the 50's, I believe it was and got demolished. Another group of CMA guys went again in the 80's...same thing. They practiced chi gong and all that and it didnt help them on bit. The fights were no longer than a minute, with most knockouts happening in seconds. The Thais knew how to fight cuz they did it often, the CMA guys that went didnt. In the tournament's held in the early part of the 20th century held by both Nationalists government and Communist Party, not one Tai Chi or "Chi" stylist won. The guys who one were then ones who crossed trained in boxing/ and or sparred alot. There is no substitute to fighting. Its like theorizing the best way to ride a bike and showing how to on a stationary, but never actually riding for real without training wheels...and then falling on your ass the first time you try for real.
The real Mcfly55 mma , boxing, etc are sports with strict rules. Do you really trust the Chinese communist party? Kung fu is meant to win fights at all costs. Do you think it makes sense for a person training to kill or badly hurt an enemy to fight someone who fights as a sport. You only see sport fights, not close to real fighting. The internal fighters can kill you quickly and easily but of course they do not.
These were fights held not only by the PRC but also the Nationalist government before. Wang Xiangzhai, who studied Xingyi under renowned teacher Guo Yunshen and founder of Yi Chuan have an interview kn thr 1940s about the sad state of affairs regarding Tai Chi. And This was in the 40's BEFORE Communist take over, so it goes to show that Tai Chi had been in a decline for quite sometime...alo Wang Xiangzhai was a fighter who didnt believe in chi powers...most Chinese martial artists who had actual fighting experience didnt buy in to that stuff. Lama Pai Master Chan Tai San was another fighter who competed and fought in WW2 against the Japanese with broadsword, but is favored tactic was using bare hands, and he didnt believe in chi powers either...so you dont consider War real life, life or death I dont know what is. Link below to the interview
www.internalartsinternational.com/free/essence-boxing-science-interview-mr-wang-xiang-zhai-part-1/
And by the way, where are getting this info about being able to kill people easily??? You've been watching too many Shaw Bro. movies man 😂. Show me any proof of this, any documented case. There are documented cases of Lei Tai fights in as far back as the 19th century, maybe a little further, and None...were won by someone using Chi powers. Plus you realize the term "internal" or nejia, wasnt even coined until the 20th century right? Truth is, like my Sifu and other Chinese fighters have said, there is no magic in Kung fu, just hard work. Plus, what does trusting the PRC have anything to do with documented tournament's? It happened and the participants were traditional stylists. In fact, in one tournament , Chan Tai San and his Lama Pai Sihing came in 2nd and 3rd, respectively. The winner was a Xingyi stylist. When Disciple David Ross asked his what special moves or tactics he used, Chan Tai San said "He just hit really hard". Again, where is your proof other than kung fu movies?
Love this
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Thank you for sharing this fantastic teaching, so much joy.
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Amazing, i learned a lot congrats❤🙏
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I love Master Yap's personality.
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One thing I would like to see besides demonstration is the practice how to achieve this power.
I , practically , adore Adam Mizner . 😃can watch him all day long
Magic fighting
Baked beans and tuna are my secrets to potent PONG!
Similar principles to dance? - train your opponent like your 'dance' partner to go where you direct?
It looks like cooperative following in dancing
hahahahahahaaaa, thanks, it was very funny
This is going to be held in Thailand...if anyone is that interested in martial arts please also drop by Tiger Muay Thai to "compare" those training methods with the one's taught at this camp.
lolololol
Perfect for fighting people at the office where you don't hurt anyone and just push them away from your desk .
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Hi, can you tell me please arę you planing same camp in these year, if yes tell me where? I would like to take a part
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Let me preface this with the fact that I'm a believer in qi, & mind force. I'm watching Adam & I notice that almost everytime when he expels someone, he is almost always directly to their side, maybe 75 to 85 degrees.
This is the most unstable direction that someone can receive an attack, the legs do not naturally move in that direction. So it is easy to throw someone off balance.
This is not to say there isn't still something going on.
Oh my Adam minzer is incredible
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the prana thingie looks very similar to aikido, but aikido doesn't explain it like that....
Most likely been lost or kept secret
@@seung-hyuncha1439 Aikido might took some parto of this "engine" to the style.
@@MisterPartner. the engine lies in the philosophy of yin and Yang so they would probably have reached the same conclusion even if there was no influence in between.
Also, Aikido doesn't work, so there's that.
@@DomenicDatti it works, you are seeing it in the videos.
Shen gong
Nima is the best fighter.
The teachers have some skill, but they are demonstrating on total beginners who have never been or dragged ever before in their lives. Would be interesting to see them demonstrate on someone who has been trained.
Ken Lek actually, most of the attendees are experienced full time martial artists and instructors. Thanks for the comment.
This garbage is completely useless against anyone with real martial arts training.. In REAL martial arts
Feels like all the teachers explain the same principles using different terms, the only thing that seemed not the same, was wing chun concepts :)
The Wing Chun concepts seem a lot like what we do in Taijiquan and Xingyiquan. Very interesting guy
@@Livingtree32 I would say they are the same and not :D. Because all internal stuff starts from the same roots. The only difference is that different styles focuses on developing different skill set. The internal world is endless and you develop internal skills depending on style/art preferences.
I would say the common principle was the "song" softness and getting rid of the tension that restricts your internal power. However, the internal concepts from each teacher were reaching a similar destination but from different routes and a different method of transport (including the wing chun)
@@danielidoine766 In my experience song means something very different from softness. But that's probably why you wrote "" song" softness". Just wanted to clarify.
@@Livingtree32 Would you say it is more like relaxation ?
So, how you develop Peng?!
Very good Masters
@@kendm21 this is the art of body mechanics not fakes
Very good at taking gullible idiot's money.
@@brandontodd14 this is not Correct
@@nilsmitrovic6392 Oh I think it is...
@@brandontodd14 When you this for you think is it okay. It gives also very much bullshid in the martial arts but not everything is bullshid in martial art ☺️ Do you do martial arts????
omg these face expression are worth all my time.
just joking
the skills expressed here are far beyond normal thinking 😂
Nice to see these deep internal styles are being passed down to western teachers.
But they are all in Thailand ^^'
-Who is the teacher appearing at 21.38 ? Hi,s amazing!
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if something like this happens to be in egypt i would attend
15:30 seems like against any physics. Can anyone explain?
To those of you who went to this camp, which style did you like the most and which master did you learn the most from?
Magic Mushroom I was already a big fan of Adam Mizner and it was all I hoped for and more. Just to be in the same room, feel the energy, listen to the words. It’s totally different in person.
All the other Masters were also incredible. So much to offer and so generous with their time and knowledge.
You will gain something from everyone there.
All were great in their own way and although they approached internal arts from different viewpoints, they all brought something we could take away and work on for ourselves. I didn't know 3 of the teachers before meeting them for the first time but they were all worth it. One other thing for skeptics, none of the teachers belittled anybody's style, they just taught things to make each person a better version of themselves so it doesn't matter your background.
@@kendm21 these teachers teach more than martial arts and make it part of their life philosophy. In teaching others to do the same, no matter what their martial interest (boxing, MMA, TCMA) they can be better versions of themselves and perhaps avoid getting arthritis, torn ligaments or an abused body because of bad internal alignment while being able to hit harder, faster and with fewer misses. It's not too late for any of us to become a better version of ourselves. Peace and love
Can anyone send a link of any of these teachers using these techniques outside of a context where people are allowing them to demonstrate without any real risk?
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I feel so bad that I didn't practice Kung fu when I was younger because if I had, I would definitely go anywhere to learn from the Wu Mei guys. It is so motivating and inspiring to see the power of these guys especially because they are much more cool then just big egos and even more how young they are. If they were motivated by huge egos, I would have no interest.
I'd love to join but the price got in the way :(
It's charlatanism dude. Stay away
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Please forgive my ignorance but most of this looks like dancing. How is that different? Those guys behave like well trained followers in contact improvisation (a modern dance branch). And I mean well trained because beginners are not able to follow like that. In my experience such following require soft connection and good coordination on both leader and follower side.
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This took place in Thailand? Please hold the next seminar at Tiger Muay Thai in Phuket.
lololol can you imagine? Old ass Thai coaches with broken bodies brutally leg kicking and elbowing these poor people.
Gotta delete all the comments calling you out for making a mockery of martial arts don't you?
Great quality video and audio
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Please, make the next Martial Camp in Brazil.
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Do Brazilian Jiu Jitsu dude...
@@brandontodd14 I am black belt in bjj man.
@@thulioalmeida6256 Then there is no way you believe in this and your comment was in jest right?
i wanna see this guys in real fight;) how to develop qi a internal power?
that I train at home, some exercises?
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It wouldn’t be a fight. They are unfightable. 😂
something different is showing students some moves and completely something else is a fight under pressure, nobody fights in such a way that he strikes and holds his hand in the air in the same place there is constant movement, there are blows leg are given a series of blows from the hands, I'm not saying they can't fight, but I'm wondering if any of these champions would beat the heavyweight champion in ufc in a cage I just want to see the full use of these techniques in the fight saw a video of Adam Mizner and he is awesome but I'm curious at what level they are
in comparison with MMA champions
sorry for my english i'm from polish and writes by translator
If you want to see some really cool fighting techniques, I just love the UA-cam channel "world class boxing channel". No blocking, no connecting, no standing upright in the pocket in striking range, but a lot of how to position yourself to avoid being hit in the first place while doing the attack. The series that he has on Mike Tyson and the peek a boo style of Cus D'Amato is pretty cool. To me, that's the highest level, where you are anticipating your opponent's next move, then moving and attacking in such a manner that he can't hit you, but they are left vulnerable. I'm not about to attack these presenters, as fighting is probably not their primary focus, but I would give a word of warning to those who try using this to defend themselves. It's pretty impossible to relax when getting punched in the face. Not everything needs to be about fighting. I was always told that Chinese Boxing was about health, exercise, and then self defense. When you prioritize the art in this manner it makes more sense to the average person looking at it. They are practicing a particular skill set, and are not learning to fight, or to be fighters. If fighting is what the main end goal is, you would train in completely different manner, I don't know, maybe something like Cus D'Amoto's style.
I wonder if these masters will pair with each other? as it does in other martial arts. should pair together to check what works and what does not work in a fight under pressure. I am not saying that they can't do anything, I am sure they would kick ass in 2 seconds and I think many athletes too. they should work and check what works, what doesn't work, so that their techniques become better and knowledge. or maybe maybe they are so powerful that they don't fight because they don't want to kill each other or hurt each other. while I am curious because I would like to see a fight between some mma fighter and a qi master not so fake as on the internet but them;)
老外認真教太極 學太極 反而是我們自己人不斷地藐視太極
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You should have a practice with Adam mizner
the taichi guys talk about sung and grounding but the wing chunk and 5 ancestor guys release from the spine yet they all issue the same energy must be a higher principle here fascinating
Did any of the instructors touch hands ?
I can show you what happens when instructors touch hands: facebook.com/vinhxuankuen/videos/1840837906013894/
@@templehistory.online respect of eachother is great to see. Its a little different than what I expected. But all the same. It was a sign of respect from eachother. Again not what i expected. Thankyou for your time and reply.
@@gc8032 These were instructors from the same branch of Wing Chun - Vietnamese Wing Chun Ngo Si Qui lineage. And here is a video of their visit to Chinese colleagues. ua-cam.com/video/Ko-It7FjJNg/v-deo.html instructors chisao in the end of the video.
Actually, there are quite a few Vietnamese masters I know I believe would fit quite well in the @THE MARTIAL MAN camps
Maksim Gromov I’ve spent several months in Vietnam and unfortunately as of yet, I haven’t met any high-level masters there.
I would love to see a fight against someone using internals. The effectiveness is obvious, but I wonder how it is against a very violent and fast striking and skilled opponent. I don't care about who would win or lose because fighting is multidimensional but the question is what is the best path to becoming a good fighter. Is it to ignore the external stuff until the internal is at a certain point or train both together? I don't see much on UA-cam about that question. I think mizner is strong on building internal first but not sure. And is a muscular body counterproductive for internals. I have not seen any well built internal practitioners. I guess the definition of well built is a matter of opinion.
It's simple they would get beat up. Problem with alot of these people who attend these things is that they are looking for an easy way to become good at defending themselves. This fairy tail stuff doesn't work.
@@kendm21 exactly lol it's amazing how gullible the average person is
Watch sth of Alan Orr
In real fight, performed by a real fighter, internal MA would look exactly like an external MA. There is not such a thing as internal or external fighting, because fighting is fighting. It's only the training method that changes.
To become a good fighter, don't train internal MA ! Internal MA is not meant for fighting, it's for self-cultivation. Internal MA uses fighting as a tool to develop spirituality, fighting is the way, not the destination. It' would simply be a loss of time to train internal MA if your aim is simply to become a top fighter.
5:32 WHAT?
5:38 Nima King
Let’s address the enormous McDojo/Bullshido-shaped elephant in the room in a calm, compassionate, analytical way. I’m not just a faceless internet troll. I’ve devoted 12 years of my life to the study of Taiji in China, I’m a 6th generation lineage disciple in Yang Family Taiji (you can check my real identity here instagram.com/barnabytaichi/?hl=en ). In this video I see some wonderful high-level internal martial arts. From the depth of my heart, I celebrate that! I also see some deeply disturbing things that serve nobody, least of all us practitioners of the internal martial arts.
None of the teachers are involved in testing their skills against totally uncompliant opponents. Martial arts is about controlling violent situations. If you don’t ever practice against real violence (that wielded by someone who doesn’t share the assumptions of your training practices) then, bit by bit, you can become dislocated from reality. Exposure to real violence happens in the combat sports in a controlled and safe environment. This exposure to the chaotic and unpredictable reality of real violence is a reality check - it shows you where you really are and has a brilliant capacity to check egos. Without this exposure to incompliance, egos become embalmed in their own assumptions. What is on display here is a perfect example of this.
Why do these masters not expose themselves to the friendly dojos and gyms of the combat sports when so many others who are weaker, more frail and less capable of fighting do so on a daily basis? When you have fused your identity/career/income etc. so closely with being a ‘master’ of something that is never tested, to test it against reality is an extremely dangerous thing lest what you claim is exposed to be fraudulent.
You might say “But the partners in pushing hands WERE resisting!”. From years and years of pushing hands with my own teachers, I know full well that there are layers and layers of subconscious compliance that are almost impossible to get away from when you are a student training with your own teacher. Even when you try to resist, conventions of manners/ethics dictate that you will resist in a pre-defined way. The culture of the situation dictates that it is not in the student’s interest to resist in a way that is outside of the specific ‘game’. In a pushing hands ‘game’, it is not in the student’s interest to move into kicking distance and try to kick the teacher in the head. That kind of thing only happens in the safe and kind environment of a combat sports gym or in a real-life violent situation. Therefore, how can these skills be called “martial” when there is no violence? Yes, there are skills that can potentially be applied in a martial context, great skills, skills that need to be taught. What a shame that ego comes in the way of that sublime work.
You can only ever learn how to fight by actually fighting, yet fighting is an uncomfortable thing. It involves be wrong, being shown your weaknesses, having to lay aside your ego and humble yourself. The internal martial arts will never contribute their rightful authentic lesson to the body of human wisdom until practitioners and teachers of the internal martial arts are willing to humble themselves in the face of reality.
You can ignore me, but in 2020 you cannot, nor can you afford to, ignore what I have said.
With love,
Barnaby Kent
Fascinating lack of any reply to this comment.
I only like the Wing Chun part, because he talk and demostrate all about the body structure, body meccanichs and the root of the body force...not about the energy, the "chi" and all the abstract things
The abstract things are abstract, because they are formulated in another "language". When you have learned to "decode" it, relate it to your body and practice, it becomes very concrete.
Nima is an excellent teacher who could make a shopping list sound interesting. I never did wing chun but find the overemphasis of body structure can be detrimental to being more relaxed than your opponent (this opinion doesn't apply to Nima) and not being aware of the abstract concepts of chi (or whatever you call it) gives your opponent a distinct advantage over you if they have even rudimentary sensitivity to it that is greater than yours.
@@danielidoine766 Hmm, where do you see the contradiction between body structure and relaxation? In my experience, the correct body structure is what allows relaxation to happen. In our Chen Taiji, correct structure is the main objective in the beginning and absolutely necessary to have real relaxation.
@@Livingtree32 I also do Chen tai chi and know Chen structure is great for feeling rooted. But it also masks inabilities in peng and relaxation. If you are in a deep stance it takes work to maintain it, and this is often achieved with muscle tension so you may have loosened your kua but are using tense muscles to do that somewhere else in your body. Ultimately, the highest level of tai chi is no form and no structure and complete song (while under pressure). We just need the structures to help us reach that goal along the way.
@@danielidoine766 Then your experience is very different from mine. In my instruction, proper structure leads to the ability to be really song in every part of the body, from sole of the foot to the finger tips. And regarding deep stances, I think that's mainly a modern phenomenon, not so prevalent in older Chen lines. (We also have some deeper positions in our form, but overall not as pronounced as what you see in "mainstream Chen")
what the hell is this hocus pocus @15:27 , no touch! and he's waving with his fingers like a magician...can someone explain??
Master Yap is demonstrating the use of Yi (intention). You can learn more about Yi by reading the article I have published on my website. themartialman.com/the-six-levels-of-the-internal-arts-a-universal-method-for-the-internal-martial-arts-practitioner
@@THEMARTIALMAN I'll be sure to use a heavy dose of Yi next time I'm trying force pull a pillow across the room.
@5:30 unbelievable movement!😱
Please explain it more.
Very unbelievable.
You need to book up to find the secrets.
I get what you are saying, but 5:30 is the first time I've seen someone react like that to Sifu Mizner. I'm generally open minded and believe Mizner is very skilled, but that looks like some no touch nonsense.
@Reef After he falls, though, you can see him getting ready to arch his back as is typical in the ridiculous no touch knockout videos.
It suggests that this was a self-imposed state of being that would not be repeatable against a skeptic.
At 5:30 the guy threw his head back because he knew he was had with no force and there was nothing he could do about it.
21:15 some people say that this guy is still falling away
05:38 real learning start
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@5:29 what was that
Total bullshit where Im from
A few things in here look interesting and worth training but there's an equal amount of things which perhaps I need to experience in person and research because it looks really dumb here. first guy was Grade A Mcdojo.
Some talk about it in a self defence context like your attacker is going to be relaxed and go with the flow. Not to disregard the good guys here who do make it work against resistance.
I do think most of the good Chinese martial arts have a really good understanding of body mechanics that we don't understand in the west but that's a view of someone who hasn't experienced this in person and trains Wushu Sanda and Taolu.
Well done for finding anything of value in this! For my part I can only see tricks and sleight of hand being used against gullible attendees. The first guy is called Adam Mizner, for future reference. The thing it most reminds me of is George Dillman's 'no touch knock out', sadly.
This would be OK if these people weren't suggesting that any of this has value in a self defence setting. I am assuming the attendees have not trained in martial arts. If they have, I am embarrassed for their instructors. The only magic taking place here is the extraction of money from the gullible, and that is dark magic.
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If you’ve ever met anyone who’s proficient in Chen style tai chi or yang style as Adam is, you would know that what he’s doing is exploiting stiffness in the body which results in the jerking motions you see. As someone who’s experienced it first hand several times, you’re body does it to prevent damage to your spine as your muscles stiffen.
@@seanconway1154 Exactly, the stiffer you are the more dangerous it becomes to you.
...Good for meditation....and cuddling :D
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I have one serious issue with the Tai Chi at the beginning. It looks like the practice is similar to what I have encountered with push hands before.
By that I mean ninety percent of the uke's response (sorry if I'm using japanese terminology for convenience, I don't know the chinese equivalent) can be derived from the single limiting principle that he must try to retain his feet in their initial position. Footwork is foundational in boxing, muay thai, wrestling, fencing... basically all martial arts. Nearly all of these unbalancing exercises seem rooted in the premise that they will work perfectly if you deny that foundation to your opponent.
Which is only problematic if you think you might find yourself squaring off against someone who thinks it's fair to take a step in order to preserve their balance. Otherwise, you're golden.
Good point. I practice mainly taichi and I find traditional push hands to be an oddity, in terms of actual applications. It's mainly to riff on and show off high level internal skills, but when it comes to fighting, these internal skills are meant to power the good old external approach of striking/wrestling.
Also, regardless of style, if you just stepped to preserve balance as a reaction to the opponent's pressure, he has the upper hand for the next move. Especially against "masters of balance", they would know where you need to step to keep your balance, so they can in theory predict your coming move. Tai chi does include striking and all that jazz (because it's about biomechanics principles, not specific techniques), but one of the style's favorite range is similar to the clinch of muay thai, and looks pretty much like it when applied in messy real life fights. And it makes sense, it's the range that when mastered offers the most control (3-4 points of contact easily) and the most devastating attacks (elbows, "locks", throws, eye scratching).
Looks like a arm drag to pull him off balance and disrupt his structure
Taiji is not only push-hands, and push-hands is not only fixed-step... Don't use your own limitations to limite Taiji. It's true many people practice only this way, mostly because Taiji interests elders and sick people, but there is much more than that.
@19:52- Hey Daniel!
what happened to the guy adam said was realy already loose? he went to the ground and kinda convulsed.
Shen and yi, spirit and intention,soul and mind🙏
@@anonymous4033 nah that has nothing to do with it shen yi doesn't make you convulsed on the ground like that.
@@dwddindin okk
@@anonymous4033 what I ment is that yeah yi she spirit and mind are powerful. But what happened to his like a mental problem after Adam let go I was wondering if he mentioned anything.
If you want to find the real kungfu masters in any UA-cam video, look for them in the comment section.
It's a new era, nowadays kung fu teachers have youtube channels. Internet makes us all equal =D
lol kung fu doesn't work
This Camp is amazing I whish I could go some day 😊
When you train the internal and the external, you become much better.
external and internal must be worked both.
the problem is that internal martial artist focus a lot on internal training that they forget the external work and the external martial artists focus a lot on external training that they forget the internal work...
Only those who understand this get a lot of level
So question I'm pondering...I'm a firm believer in the internal arts/power--so I'm not coming from a skeptics POV...but I'm wondering why some lifetime/long term practitioner's on the internal arts never develop internal power to any significant/practical degree. I was in touch with one such person on Quora. He teaches Tai Chi, has been practicing the art for 35 years, yet has stated he only occasionally feels chi but not to the degree that he's able to incorporate it into his tai chi practice. I'm usually good at (full of) theories but on this one I'm at a loss to explain it. I only mentioned to him in passing that internal arts can be like any talent/skill. Some people are just born with those talents (and certainly work hard to develop them) but therein in part (perhaps) lies an explanation for why some people tap into their internal power & are able to use it & others...not so much. But I'd be curious what people think on the subject?
Fast Eddy Love-Muffin Define chi in this context? Because you don’t develop a mystical extra energy that’s bullshit. Maybe some don’t develop a divine body connection and supreme sensitivity/coordination because they go to a class twice a week and that’s it? That’s significantly less training than is required. Nothing done in the above video is magic. Most of it comes from one guy being in a strong position and the other guy in a weak position. Or one guy refusing to relax while the other just sinks. I’m still looking for a video where a guy is willing to show all these principles in a sparring context. It will never look this pretty, or perfect, but it should be able to be done.
@@tubesism You took my question completely out of context in several ways. My frame of reference was someone who has practiced for 35 years, diligently, who in fact teaches Tai Chi. When you reference someone that goes to class twice a week (and you don't say for how long--twice a week for 6 years or twice a week for 60 years?--and how much did they practice on their own?) I'm a believer. I don't need convincing. I might ask you though, define "magic" as in nothing done in this video is magic. It's a demonstration of chi power--fah jin--regardless of one person being in the strong person & the other being in the weak position. My opinion...if it were combat sparring and/or a street fight and we picked random opponents--everyone from trained martial artists in both hard & soft styles & students learning the martial arts to macho guys with beer muscles--the results would be random but I wouldn't put my hard earned cash on the macho guy with the beer muscles & bravado. Results of these fights would be everywhere from submission by the masters to these masters kicking ass to them having their ass kicked. Why do we believe that soft-chi-style master would win EVERY fight & why do we believe that these soft style masters WOULD LOSE every fight to a trained hard style master or black belt? Of course there's going to be varied results & losing one, losing many, winning a few, winning many fights does not prove that chi-fah-gin-internal power does not exist or IS NOT EFFECTIVE in a fight.
I think it depends what your friend considers Tai chi. You can practice single person forms for eternity and it wouldn't give you sensitivity to another person and you wouldn't know if you have bad structure as it's not pressure tested. You also need a teacher that is proficient in partner practice and chi type exercises in order to be guided the right away. Perhaps some people have some innate ability but it's extremely rare compared to people who train diligently to learn these skills. And it really does take that Chinese emptying your cup cliché to forget what you think you know. If you only stick with what you know and understand, you can't develop and can be stuck on the plateau for years. Even if you do push hands, you can believe you are doing it right when actually you are just wrestling by using external forces and full of tension with no peng. It takes meeting somebody like Adam Mizner to be hit with the bitter realisation you are still a baby in tai chi terms.
what can you learn from ppl showing what they can do ? Show me how I can do it. You only see them doing on the students not the other way around what is it good for I guess this ppl did not learn anything
Resolve this in terms of physics, Sir, please.
Well I was about to sayWHY HAS NOT ANY BIG NAME OF MMA hasn’t enrolled for a camp and try to corner them…That’s the question!!!They have money and they can just try!
This looks amazing.....but cant be real or practical for real life self protection. Are people in video kind of like.. want to believe so it real to them. People reactions seem over the top......
Some moves like a wrist lock shown are very valid.
No disrespect just very sceptical like many people......would I love to gain such skills if possible.... absolutely.
usually from my experience..the over top reactions you see is b/c many are relaxed as well and going with the movement ...b/c it's demo & to avoid injury b/c if you stay firm when being manipulated you could hurt your self...
Many students in schools also ask the same questions. How does maths, history or any subject we use matter or are practical for real life? When you can't see past the first stage, its because you don't know a vast amount of knowledge. Find a master to show you internal engine, all martial are taught person to person with vast hours of training to understand the knowledge of self control.
Were is Sifu Sergio?
milehigh61 you ever touched hands with him?
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Why is he purposely falling everywhere?
Apparently you get paid to attend these seminars, everyone there gets paid. Who doesn't love free money?
I don't think an actual attacker uses a gently steady chi
They don't...
But classical martial arts don’t work. We know that as the MMA fans tell us the classical stuff fails in the octagon.
I am old and only one time in my life on the street did I have to my training to stop someone. All i used was a back hand finger flick to the face at eyes when this fellow grabbed me by the collar. He let go and turned away and I scampered off. No arm drag to the ground and then ground and pound. No O Goshi type throw to slam him to the pavement.
Good martial arts are fast, cleanly executed and simple. For this old man anyway.
I'll take shit that never happened for 400, Alex.
yo hes so fake. fight a real fighter or your fake. and btw these self defense styles put people in danger. if you disagree come to my channel self defense video and thumbs down. if you agree do nothing. ok? good
What is the name of the first master?
Adam Mizner
30+ years training kung-fu...I recommend Hands up at all time. Watch you opponent intently and be direct...works every time...not sure what these guys are teaching...but each to their own...I guess.
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This looks completely fake... this sucks. I wanna learn it to, Where can i sign up :p This is just to fun not to learn. I mean look at them smiling and all.
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@@MegaSuperfight Thanks for the offer but I have to decline I'm from the Netherlands and not moving anytime soon besides I was kinda joking. I rather train something like taiji or aikido (which I already do) and have fun together than punch the shit out of someone (no offense)
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can't believe people still pay these guys to teach them things that don't work and are unreal...i mean do what you want with your money bro but, you might as well be 6 years old playing in the playground imagining you have super powers...wth!?
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@@MegaSuperfight nah man...I'm good ;)
Fake...
If they possess such a higher level of fighting, were they can lay hands on people and make them collapse, why aren't they in the ring with manny pacquiao! This is the same BS that was told the kung fu boxers during the Boxer Rebellion.
I agree with you to some extend, however boxing has rule with glove. suppose two fighter has the same amount of training everyday and engage in the fight without rules, the result will be different.
Because they are interested in the skill not the fight 🤷🏻♀️
Its like why Bruce Lee never went to the ring, this masters are humble and their techniques are not intended to fight nor damage people but transmitting their energy they can control truh the contact and relaxation, they can not ask a real opponent to get relax so they can beatem out. This is energy transmitting only regardles of the name of the style.
@@40JoCharles Pretty much what Jo said. I doubt very seriously that anyone at the event has the slightest interest in cage fighting. The event is about body mechanics, not fighting in a ring.
@@blockmasterscott Then it should be called exercise and not a martial art or considered a combat system. For most people martial arts are for fighting: boxing, kick boxing, bjj, karate, judo, Muay Thai. It's funny Bruce Lee is mentioned, the example he used, when describing this type of "martial artist", is a man laying on a bench kicking his legs and moving his arms perfecting his swimming stroke, he jumps into the water and drowns. If you want to learn how to swim you have to get into the water. If you want to learn how to fight you have to engage in fighting. Even Sifu Sergio, who has kind of gone down this road, brags about being a purple belt in bjj. You have to ask yourself, why does he need bjj if he's cultivated all of this chi and internal power?
This is 100% Bullshido
This is like sect