What is the Entertainment Business like? 4 Stories I Witnessed during Film/Drama Making [CC]
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"It does not make sense for the consumer to serve the restaurant" is such a good quote
I know! I had to come to the comments section to find out if people thought the same!
This is literally one of the best channels. she knows her work and is not scared of calling out people's bulshit.
The purpose of this video is something I try to pass to my younger sis she is 17 n LOVES kpop I'm 22 n since I introduced her to kpop and asian dramas I'm always trying to show her the difference between being a fan, enjoy someone's work and being brainwashed cuz the entertainment industry sure is made to brainwash us into think every celebrity is perfect.
The Kpop industry is kinda different from the Chinese entertainment industry. Chinese celebrities tend to have more money, power and privileges (they get paid much more and evade more taxes) than the average Kpop idols who have to pay DEBT to their companies for the initial investment into their debut. Most of them don’t earn anything until their debt is cleared. Kinda like the student loans in America.
I think Kpop idols also have a less chance of being sexually abused by their bosses who are too busy overworking them to death. They tend to be severely overworked and struggling to live up to the impossible beauty standards.
Momo from Twice (she’s Japanese) literally said on camera that her company forced her to eat only ice cubes everyday to lose weight. She said that back then she was afraid to fall asleep because she was worried she would never wake up.
Her company JYP is one of the biggest Kpop companies. One can only imagine what those idols in smaller companies go through.
Wendy (Canadian) from Red Velvet fell from a stage (over 10 meters high) because the staff there FORGOT to add stairs. She broke her pelvis and spent months in hospital. And no legal action was taken whatsoever for this severe negligence. Korean workplace safety laws are bullshit.
Tao (ex-member of EXO) said in an interview that his company forced him to work when his legs were injured and had to go to hospital. These Kpop idols literally signed away their lives to their company and had no power to refuse work schedules.
Lisa (from Thailand) from Blackpink was scammed by her own manager. It was wild.
And I haven’t even mentioned the more severe cases of Sulli, Hara etc.
Notice that a lot of those accidents and bad things happened to foreign non-Korean idols? I have a strong sense that the Kpop industry is xenophobic and bullies its foreign idols extra hard.
So I actually think that your sister idolising Kpop idols is not such a big issue in itself. It’s not a big deal to think that Blackpink members are perfect goddesses because, even though they’re not perfect, it’s very unlikely for them to be involved in super shady scandals, because they live in their company’s dorm under heavy surveillance.
For example, even if they want to do drugs, their managers are following them around and reporting everything back to their company. I’m not even making this up. The surveillance on Kpop idols is super intense and not a secret.
The much bigger problem is if your sister may think that Kpop idols are princesses/princes living a great Disney life being so beautiful and talented and famous. That is far from the truth.
I firmly believe that most Kpop idols are glamorised slaves/products of their companies. And many of them are NOT HAPPY. They signed “slave contracts” when they were underage children and now they’re stuck. They often pretend to be happy and say positive/idealistic things to the camera because they are forced to. Some have old injuries that can’t fully heal because they aren’t allowed enough time to rest.
Many of them put on their happy masks on stage and then probably go back to their dorms and take anxiety/depression medicines. I see some idols looking so cheerful and carefree on camera, and then some months later they commit suicide. It’s just sad.
If my family members ever say to me that they wanna go to Korea and pursue their idol dreams because they “want to be like Blackpink/BTS”, I will be stressed out and try my hardest to persuade them out of it. It’s just not worth it, in my opinion.
@@queenning28 you pretty much summed up the reason why gave up the k industry all together. I felt like K idols are treated like products and not like a human being. Chinese actors/idols get paid way waaaaaaaay more and have a bit more say in their life at least.
@@queenning28 You are saying so much but you didn't knew much about the dark sides of China entertainment business. There's no comparison really. If we all wanted to compare then we need to be releasing books. What you say didn't really happened in SK, happened a lot if you would just read the news. What you think didn't happened in China happened a lot if you would just read the news. Too many to write down. Sexual exploitation of artists happened everywhere worldwide. Stage injury happened to artists on both side. Talking about money and slave contracts, yup it's a worldwide thing. It's a big bad world out here in disguise of a bling bling happy dream.
@@ms.chuisin7727 you are right. It's not just something that's occurring only in kpop industry, because it's happening everywhere in the world. Not just entertainment industry even in other work place it happens. Sad but no matter how high our morals are we are in one way or another consuming the products of capitalism.
Ah, the Idols back stage life is sucks. Even for just a little choirs performer like me, who just perform on tiny village, is still have a 'wild story' to tell. Yeah, you'll got noticed by peoples, you'll got a little fame and have a money ofc. But the drama behinds is really sucks. 😑😑😑
So when I saw a boygroup or a girlgroup, honestly I just appreciate the hardworks they did to make a good performance (especially for so called self-produce idol groups). And their good funny cam personality plus their cute handsome / beautiful faces is just an eye candy bonuses.
I completely agree with you.. just enjoy dramas and fictional characters instead of idolizing the figure these actors create which no way is their real persona
I'm shocked to hear that 4th story. Especially when you told about the parents kneeling incident I almost cried. Couldn't help myself. I could easily feel their frustration and pain they were suffering from because of their daughter. I hope that actress is in a good condition now. It's really hard to believe but not impossible. Every entertainment industry in this world has a horrible dark side of it, that people are just not aware of.
I’m in my 30s so not surprised about the unethical behavior of people anymore…However this video is a good reminder for everyone to not fully trust things we don’t understand or people we don’t even know. I bet not everyone in that industry is dirty or corrupted but we should keep in mind that it is also not the fantasy and glamorous novel world they show in dramas or movies. I also think that some of those behaviors are still present all around the world (H.Weinstein, Prince Andrew)…The last story was so sad and felt so real and the same time so movie-like, I hope she has a good life now. Thank you so much for making this video!
So devastated to hear all these, especially about the fourth story. Hoping that everything goes well for that actress ❤️
same, i hope she is fine and well soon so she can either continue her career or quit and enjoy her life
as someone part of the "younger demographic" i fully agree with,, everything said in this video. especially the "don't get too emotionally invested" part. if there are any other young people watching this; really, don't get overly invested. it's really not worth it. i made that mistake once, never doing it again. even if you feel obliged to, speak out for your idols or whatever, they will never know that you did it, and you're really only making yourself unhappy by caring too much about it. of course, you can still watch their videos and like what they do, but just, don't put any unrealistic expectations on them, always put up a barrier between your heart and them, for your sake because if something morally wrong that they did ever got exposed, if you're too emotionally invested, you will get crushed. and i sincerely hope it never happens to anyone so please, heed this warning and take yourself out before it's too late.
I’m also a part of the younger demographic and I think you took the words right out of my mouth. Especially in the kpop industry, I know too many younger fans who worship their idols without knowing right and wrong. This video has made me rethink the way I stan my own group, to not just love them blindly but to also see them for their flaws and imperfections. Every idol/celebrity we know are masked with a sort of perfection by the media and the people who work with them behind the scenes, so it would be great if society can stop viewing their idols as perfect because in truth, everyone makes mistakes and have their own problems.
im part of the younger demographic too. i used to spent too much of my time doing data for people i like, until it stressed me out bcs i focused too much on it. now, i dont do that anymore. avenuex saying 'it does not make sense for the consumer to serve the restaurant' really is accurate. now, i always keep in mind that fan culture is supposed to makes us happy n not stresses us out.
I’m not surprised that violence against women is seen as normal in China even if it happened to a famous actress. Drugs and alcohol in the entertainment business is a given. The nastiness that goes on in the backroom of the entertainment industry doesn’t surprise me! The entertainment industry is very dirty and complex in the background but it sells a very polished image that’s an illusion. Enjoy their work but leave their private lives alone. Don’t confuse their work with who they are in private life.
agreed.
it remind me about K-ent and how many youngster dreamed to become Idol just because the glamorous illusion it portrait, leaving the dark side (the struggle, corruption etc) and in the end ruined many. k-pop Seungri case really opened my mind and heart on never took it personal.
you can like them on screen, but in the end they also have their own private life and persona.
it is the age old truth..
High rewards, higher competition
Nothing is more big in terms of money, fame, power than entertainment industry. When people who want it are way more, the differentiator is bound to break any walls of ethical, moral conduct
In China? some examples?
Domestic violence in general is not okay I would say. Saw a trailer where Yan Mi character misunderstood ML and slapped him - commented that domestic violence is never okay even if it is a woman doing it and I was scolded for destroying the rep of the drama. 🤷♀️
@@alicea5 why would you think violence is okay in the first place...
What you described isn't unique to China. Any industry where a few people hold a lot of power and wealth often leads to abuses. American actor Kevin Sorbo was asked what advice he would give to young people wanting to act. He paused and said, "Make sure there is absolutely nothing else you would rather do." He also praised a young co-star who completed her college degree while shooting a show with a crazy schedule for five years.
I absolutely definitely agree with him…a few celebrities advice their own children to find other professions than entertainment/show business. This industry is glamorous but very cruel in every aspect. Just like any profession,there’s capital to succeed ….physical appearance literally from head to toe, image and projection privacy safety and security , social seclusion…just to name a few…it’s highly competitive and very compromising
People on social media attack me when I say that celebrities, especially actors, are always playing a role when they are in public, no matter how casual and unscripted they appear to be in interviews or on so-called reality shows. Sometimes the persona is a creation of the artist’s management, for experienced artists it may be primarily their own creation. This is the only way they can appear accessible to their fans, but protect their privacy. And then there are the actors who have a different sexual orientation. In that case, the creation and performance of their public persona has to be especially flawless.
This I disagree with you, not that I support them, I just don't think that they can act well enough to stay true to their character all the time (gosh if they can, then I just have to give them props). Their true self will slip out here and there. But I do agree all celebrities have some kind of public persona, but as far as I know, it will be somewhat close to their own personalities (but with some extra decoration) so at times when they're more relaxed, they can show their true self without too much worry. Otherwise, it is a failed persona because it will break sooner or later. Especially in Cbiz, where everyone's being monitored closely from head to toe.
You hit the nail on the head. There is a very high proportion of 'different sexual orientations' in the US film industry, many are not open about it and the industry gives them a public image.
Someone working behind the scenes in the industry estimated only 10% of industry insiders there are "clean" (not perverted).
I can't speak to the Chinese industry. But it's reasonable that any industry where limits can be pushed would attract a certain type of predator.
@@xxkissmeketutxx I don’t think that with “different sexual orientation” they mean perverts, but rather LGBTQ+ people who have to stay closeted to stay in the spotlight
It's easy; after a while having a persona you have become the persona.
There's no such thing as a "true self" anyway.
@@LinhNguyen-dy4ym lol are you been serious. you should read more biographies of Hollywood celebrities. They always say it was so suffocating keeping a persona for 20 years plus.
Imo Britney is a good example. She was selling a persona and eventually cracked. But she ran away from home and was photographed. In a similar scenario the black vans would pick you up and lock you up and crack away behind closed doors lol.
i find c actors and actresses its not shown. Because you are an assset worth millions so people behind you will not allow cracks to show. Hence persona keeps going.
Like how can a lot of the male celebrities still be single. And girls believe it? Ooo Wallace Chung is single🤯 an "innocent" adult male. But he is selling that persona or maybe he is seperating his private life with public life.Maybe as he is pre- social media he is able to, whereas Zhang Yujian it failed badly.
Thank you very much for making this video. I was in the entertainment industry in the US for a number of years. Before that, my mother worked for Disney studios. Everything you've said is so true. I could tell you similar stories. We need more people like you willing to point this out to young women.
what you said about the fans going crazy is actually true and its scary, i’ve seen enough, and that’s the main reason why i don’t enjoy the thing i suppose to enjoy anymore
I still remember a story of a certain kpop idol who have a crazy sasaeng that's love to break his personal house just to put her bloody used menstrual pads on this idol bed, sofa and in his refrigerator. Or other certain idol who thinks that he always got sleep paralysis, but it's turned to be his sasaeng will breaking in the midnight and taking his sleeping photos or lightly rubbing his thigh. 🙃🙃🙃🙃
@@kuroyuri04 oh my.... That's creepy
A friend of mine works in entertainment industry and I met a famous idol a couple of times at my friend party. Was had chit chat with this idol on the fandoms topic. Words came out from this idol mouth, "I just don't like all the crazy things my fans do, but I have to pretend I like my fans in front of camera, this is my bread and butter."
Well, this idol is telling the truth and not afraid to say it.
Ooof! A Chinese celeb?
I’m 14 and I’ve been watching your drama reviews for long and it’s like my eyes were opened today lol. You are so right
Better invest emotionally in characters than in the actors who play them- you know from the beginning they are not real and have a safe headspace to idolize :). Thats probably the nerdier version to be a fan, but imho the healthier one, too.
Having gone way passed the age of idolizing an idol, this all came to me as a no surprise. But it's a really good message to youngsters out there to know
Ugh i kinda want to send this video to some people on stan twitter...like why are you fighting so much for people you don't know personally, this ain't a war 😫
Couldn't agree more.... Been in this fandom thing...spending a lot of money and time but as the time goes by... I have to face a reality. They are all just a human being and no bodies perfect. So right now, I'm just enjoying their work (drama/movie) nothing more.
12 - 15/18 age group really need to hear these stories.
Agree.
Unfortunately, even if they do, some will still be unwilling to accept. There are many hidden psychos in this world.
There's this guy that murdered a mother and child but gained female fans because he was 'good looking'. They even went to court to plead the judge not to prosecute him. CRAZY
@@dkf315 Name please?
Even though I'm a 19 years old girl, I already know that everything that I've seen is not perfect that's why I don't really invest in celebrities. I just watch their projects to satisfied my needs in entertaining myself during boring times 😏😏
This video is very necessary, I wish it can reach a large amount of people.
I'm very surprised that after all you've witnessed working on dramas, that it hasn't tainted your drama watching experience. It's stories like this that make me feel like "ignorance is bliss" but nevertheless I'm very glad you made this video. I completely agree with you in saying not to idolize this people who's images are manufactured and really only show you what they want you to see. I've always watched dramas as means of entertainment but I don't really get invested in the actors, because what they do does affect how I watch them. It's best to stay in your lane and appreciate the works of these actors.
This goes to lots of sectors, including TV personas, IG celebrities, music personas, etc. Thank you for making this video, Avenue X. It takes real love (to the work itself) and real courage (to point out things that shouldnt happen in the industry), I am sure. For that, I thank you. Keep up the good work, Avenue X. Will show this to my niece for sure.
I'm also a teenager that is currently interested in Cdrama but not much emotionally invested as I'm also a little bit aware of the behind the scenes stuff. I'm quite glad that I got to know of these dirty and disgusting things you mentioned from early on, I knew that the entertainment business is a disgusting place but the perfect facades do sometimes hinder my vision from penetrating through the beautified characters and faces to actually see their real faces.
Also I'm a regular viewer so avenueX even though you think there is not much younger viewers watching your videos I'm here 🖐.
same here! it's good to know someone else my age isn't so blinded by celebs either.
Don’t go out fight wars for those who will never thank you!!!
Excellent advice 👍
That actress and her eye story really shook me oml. How the heck did she just let it go?!?
But yeah, at the end of the day, what you said in your conclusion is completely right, I agree and I think it is important to make it clear that the industry and the business world in general is just not perfect. Everyone has their own secrets.
I’ve seen young girls who are 12-16 yr olds who want to go into the ent industry and I just have to say, the “celebrity” life may seem glamorous on the outside but it is more lonely and corrupted than those girls may think. It’s nice that you have a video out talking about what really goes on in the ent industry. 👏
As an OLD person with many years of work, some of it in a national TV - I’m not surprised at all. The “crazy fan “ culture on one hand preys on, brainwashes and uses very young people, on the other hand, makes life of stars miserable, strips them from their privacy, sets stalkers on them, exposes them to wild gossip and slander, and literally puts them in danger… we live in a weird world. Sigh.
The government would do society a favor if such organized fandoms were banned
Damn, my introduction to the Chinese entertainment industry were webnovels and I thought things were crazy enough...your stories could very well fit in on a webnovel/comic’s plot. I wanna hear more stories but thank you for sharing these ones. I’m curious who but nvm
Even I thought that webnovels were extreme but after Kris Wu....... Gosh
@@vibingwithpanda So far I'd say Kris Wu story isn't even that extreme tbh, I've seen really worst scandals in K-Entertainment..
Right?? When I heard the story about the two actresses I was like, that sounds like it could be the plot of one of those webnovels... like wow
@@AliceKamiya you seen worst than Kris Wu? I wanna know more stories how extreme can it gets.? .. Kris Wu story already shocked me to the core.
@@c.130 Honestly, I am sure Kris Wu did that, other people in entertainment also did/still do something similar, it's just they haven't been caught yet. There was Seungri's case in Korea, where he did a lot of illegal things including allowing prostitution in the nightclub he was running. (but stories where victims did not consent to that?)
Besides the entertainment circle, there's also the 'Nth room case'.
If you dig a little bit deeper, there are tons of stories here and there, I think Kris' story shock people bc no one expects him to do that but it isn't the more "severe" case.
Excellent video, i discovered your channel in 2023, very like your reviews and perspective. This one is an eye opener. Now going back and watching older videos. Cheers from Ontario
As the one who used to be cyberbullied by people from the fandom of the star I admire because I said I'm a fan of his career, not his made-up image (be counted as a fake-fan by the official local-branch of the public fandom), I totally agree with your point of view. Thank you for making that content so that I can slap to the face of some hidden netizens who was brainwashed for times.
the last story about leading actress is the most disgusting thing i ever heard.. nobody deserve to be treated like that.
I just love how this channel slapped me back to reality hahahhaha. I hope it goes the same for every viewer
I'm amazed with your audience...if you're ranting, some of us are still simping for the drama you're ranting about.😂
Even though we all know that terrible things happen behind the scenes in every industry, we all hope or want to believe that they don't. Videos and information like this help to shed light and breakdown the idolization of the entertainment industry. Thank you for sharing your unique experiences with international fans!
Thanks for this video! I've been in the kpop fandom since my teenage days and so honestly, such stories don't really surprise me anymore (though I still feel bad for the last actress). The Kris Wu case for me is "disappointed but not surprised", especially after the Burning Sun incident in 2019. AvenueX made great comments, we can support them but don't idolize them because we will never truly know who they are. It's better to spend time, money and effort on yourself and your loved ones, and treat celebrities like their industry - entertainment, something that makes you happy but doesn't completely take over your life.
Thank you for the advice 🙏, I used to be like that, defending idol like there is no tomorrow, I've learned my lesson, I'm just enjoying the show right now. I hope this video reached out to must wider audience.
These stories were all so sad, although I still want to thank you for sharing them. I have seen similar types of stories play out in both the entertainment industry and other professional industries, and it always seems like the average person can't win against systemic corruption and subjugation. Your message is spot on... just focus on their works and don't idealise stars because we never know who they really are and what are their motivations.
To be quite honest, I'm in my early 20s, but I've heard this kind of story a bunch of times before, and though I'm not surprised, it never fails to make me disgusted; being interested in fashion kind of got me through this stage of "deconstructing the glamour" before as well (with very similar situations). I'm into some medias that involve fan culture and it's just so necessary to set boundaries guys...
Thank you for making the video and sharing, it's a really important discussion!
Your summary at the end is just so right. I wish some crazy fandoms should listen to.
I have I line that they can't cross, so I choose who I like carefully. I believe there are still plenty of good souls despite the backstage of this industry being so dark. However there are always the few that do not lose themselves.
Yes I hope these actors are decent people cuz I love their work, GJ, ZZH, ZYL, By, hawick Lau, Shawn dou
There are a few that I believe stays away from the dark side but I think it’s so normalized I’m the industry - the number of vices differs
Hello! I just wanted to let you know that I am your target audience (15 in America) and I've been thinking about the obsession woth fans and the fact that the idols I stan are most likely fake a little the past few days but this video really hit the mark and know I'm rethunking everything. It's wild cause the streaming and buying and fighting for them etc will do nothing and I'm thinking about it more because of you. Thank you!
Well said. It is high time for celebrity-crazed fans to start cherishing their own inner circles
This is such an important message, unfortunately... The stories are somehow both horrifying and not at all surprising at the same time. As you say, it's better to be a fan of the work rather than the person!
(or be fans of 2D 纸片 people only haha)
I think the opposite is also true. Sometimes people forget that famous people are human too. Like working from home i have being really into podcasts and you can tell by listening to interviews with famous people that they are quite affected by things like Internet comments or random people telling them things on the streets not to mention stalkers, mean critics etc. ( and by famous people i am not only talking about musicians or actors but also CEOs and Nobel prize winners)
There has been cases of celebrities killing themselves due to stuff like this. Neither the two extremes are good the haters and the super fans.
can u tell me the podcast name? thank you!
i always say and never get tired to say it again and again ... just enjoy the production ... as for the behind of its ... grateful for them to deliver the production, if the stuffs they endorse you like and afford to buy, enjoy it
if not ... theres another thing in life is better
beside theres more need to get attention from you rather you give it to the celebrities ... its you and loved ones (that loves you back!)
This is an extremely enlightening video for all young people.
i really needed this, thank you. i realized that i was starting to become a crazy cpf. i'm pretty ashamed but i'm glad i woke up. i'm definitely within the target audience
I totally agree with what u said at the end. I have a similar view of things.
A close friend of mine was a C-list actress (not in China but a different country) a few years back. She's married now and has kids so she's not in the limelight anymore. I remember her saying how she could've easily become more successful just by accepting so many of the indecent proposals she's received from powerful people. She was adamant on sticking to her morals so she never really got far enough in the industry. I'm not saying that all top stars are shady but not all of them are squeaky clean as well.
Always take things with a grain of salt, esp. those that u admire under the lights, whether in the entertainment industry or your field/career. Not everything is seen & known, and with social media, people have even more control of how they want to be perceived.
Thank you for making this video. I think everyone who is a fan of idols or celebrities should definitely watch it.
When AvenueX said that every top start has probably done something that would make your draw drop, it got me wondering what kind of stuff my bias has done since he is a top start
Me too !I’ll just say it out directly..I’m a fan of Y/bo and this vid chilled me..I always wonder if he gets propositioned on and off sets ( even by those executive ladies).hes really young too.it seems very unsafe for young girls and boys In c-ent🙁
@@Rain26128 Hi, I'm a fan of Y*bo too!! My bet is, these propositions happened. I know cases where it happened with male influencers/models. Young girls in the entertainment industry must receive them frequently, so it's really no surprise if it happens with young men too. Although with Y*bo's personality i doubt that he accepted them. If he did, then it must have been during his debut/early years of his career. I doubt he would accept any of this now. I'm actually more worried about him doing drugs or drinking, because i noticed he drinks alcohol like he's drinking water. And you only get used to alcohol by drinking alcohol. And as for drugs, AvenueX said most of the entertainment industry do them so there's a chance of him doing it. I just hope he's not doing heavy drugs, I draw the line at heavy drugs
@@ghostlypanda4180 hmm I agree..but I don’t think he would do drugs since he’s the face of the anti drug campaign in china( with BAH ) .With his personality I don’t think he would accept propositions, but he might have little choice sometimes, u never know i guess...🤷♂️it’s really hard to survive in the industry..
I'm so sad for the original actress. I hope she's doing well now.
Dude
I was so speechless
@@Michelle-hu7fk same here. 😔
This is a reminder everyone needs, really even though one is older and supposedly wiser, it's still easy to have that bias that the actor or actress or whomever one is following might not be as bad or horrible, but one can never know for sure. We are never with them once the camera stops rolling. Every thing has to be kept to a minimum.
Thanks for the video ☺️☺️
What you’re talking about it so real. Corruption and public relations lies is present in pretty much ANY industry that has a lot of profit. Money to be made.
Idol culture though is especially toxic. The whole idea of putting someone up on a pedestal as “perfect”… there’s so much wrong with that. I think young girls are being taken advantage of. They realized how loyal they are, and how much money they have to spend (through views, parents money, allowances) and wanted a piece of the action. Series like twilight and Harry Potter and boy bands like One Direction showed how lucrative it is to appeal to young girls. Kpop and idols and cdrama stars do it extremely successfully now.
I do hope your video reaches those girl. I am 29 and extremely jaded & cynical. As much as I may like a certain actor’s work and physical appearance, I never make the mistake of assuming I know ANYTHING about them as a person. Their public image is carefully curated and managed by a massive team.
Excellent video!
People need to stop deifying celebrities because a celebrity is a human being just like you and me. You don't know them and they don't know you. They're not gods to worship or toys to play with. They're human beings with human emotions and are entitled to a private life just like the rest of us. Isn't it enough to enjoy their work and support their achievements? Don't be the creep who stalks celebrities and puts their lives in danger. It's not like they'll ever date you, especially when they don't even know you exist.
Of course I know. I'm watching a drama
Yes exactly! People need to see celebrities as human beings! This paparazzi culture here in India (stalking as I would like to call it) is so creepy! Like they click pictures of celebrities even if they're shopping for groceries, going to the gym or airport or EVEN LIVING THEIR LIVES LIKE NORMAL PEOPLE!!!!
People who worship them too much and creep into their personal life and people who attack them so much just cause they were not as flawless as a saint and didn't act like a prophet and made some mistakes in their lives are both the problem!
I think you missed the point of the video. I am not a fan of someone myself but I struggle with self hatred and I can definetly tell you that people who are so obsessed with someone don't do it because they really love to. They have mental health issues and project themselfes into those celebrities because they'd wish to be someone else but not themselfes.
This is an excellent video for those "stans" who become horrendously unpleasant people to "defend" their idol and a reminder that we rarely see what the people behind the curtain are doing. As someone who is no longer a teen, these stories still made me wtf. Thank you, AvenueX.
Interesting video and stories. Yeah, the harsh reality is many people in power often take advantage of others - particularly of those who are naive....As you get older, you do become more aware of ugly truth. I'm quite new to the "chinese fandom".....and I'm stunned by some of the shenanigans I heard are going on, it's crazy!
I hope a lot of people would get to watch this video and wake up to reality that not everything you see is true. I'm part of the younger generation and i'm glad that i realized things early on. I definitely agree with AvenueX, really, WHAT A MESS!
This big customer is not satisfied anymore. 😤😂 Thanks for the new phrase. Also, the stories (as sad as they were) were good for teaching/learning purposes. The entertainment industry is never as glamorous as it turns out to be.
Oof 姐, even though I used to work in small production houses as crew in Singapore, these stories are so common in the industry.. After a while, you'll just realise that the world isn't that 'perfect'. Human are complicated, the best actor/actress could be the worse kind of person that is difficult to work with.. They are mostly different off-screen.
I have worked in a bunch of different industries, and it's the same BS everywhere. A bunch of people being away from wife and kids and suddenly they become sleaze bags, check in hospitality and travel guides. Domestic violence happens absolutely everywhere, every social strata. Drugs as well. And weird workplace strategies too, I had two bosses for a few weeks at one point.
My parents were worried about these things and the "casting couch" back in the 90s when I wanted to be an actress. So it was known and I am glad they had frank talks with me.
I love your point about not being able to truly know another person. There’s certain sides of myself that I only share with certain people. I live with my parents for example, so they see me all the time, but there’s so many aspects of my life that I just don’t talk to them about. And then the people that I do share these things with, don’t live with me, so they don’t know what I’m really like when I’m at home. It’s not necessarily bad not knowing everything, but it’s true that you don’t have the whole story. Also, I’m definitely not a perfect person. Honesty there’s things in my past that could probably be used against me if I were a celebrity. These things aren’t even that bad, but if someone theoretically wanted to they could blow them out of proportion to make me look like a horrible person 😂 No one is a perfect person and expecting idols to not be perfect and to not make mistakes is definitely setting you up for disappointment.
The Japanese says, a human being has 3 faces. The first face, you show to the world. The second face, you show to your close friends, and your family. The third face, you never show anyone.
In a way, I believe this to be true. This what prevents me to "worship" any idols/actors/actresses...because sometimes when I see them on the screen, I would wonder about their "third face".
Thank you for making this video. The entertainment industry is dirty in general. The message your conveying is a good reminder for all of us. And I really hope the younger fans will take your message to heart. For the most part I enjoy being a fan but I know the stars aren't perfect. They have a public image and we'll never really know them. Yeah, I don't idolized them.
Hahaha I mean everyone should know none of the celebrities are exactly innocent. I stopped fantasying after I grad from middle sch because I realized the more you want to know about someone, the more of a diff side or disappointing things you will come across about the celebs. That's why now I rather fall in love with good dramas and productions than chasing after something that is empty.
I really appreciate this video and I hope that more people will understand that the entertainment business is a business, an often unglamorous one at that (at least behind the scenes). I used to be obsessed with idol culture to the point that I went and auditioned for one of the big companies. At that time my parents always told me to be careful because the entertainment business all it seems like. I didn't believe it then, but now I understand more and more that it's not this polished, perfect thing that I always hoped for it to be. Like AvenueX said, it's not to say that the entertainment industry is 100% terrible, but it is so important to realize we should enjoy it without losing ourselves.
That last story was messed up. How could you treat someone like that?! 😕
Yeah like they think she's never gonna find out or something
I know, right? Don't they have contract? Wow! That is really messed up. ENT is just a dark dark place. Glad that we are just audience.
@@lamusiquefanatique so true... also i wonder for that new actress who "got" the role and made her career big today from it ...
@@ShimAdeJulianti @AvenueX, did the new actress end up making it big time?
@@angelasoWA 15:30 Avenuex said everyone will know the new actress
I'm in my 20s now so I guess it fits the demographics of this video. However, I don't really obsess over people or characters as much as some and I agree with you on all those points. There was one streamed I watched pretty much daily/weekly on twitch, who turned to the bad side. I'm still kinda recovering from that since a lot of good memories come from watching his streams. What was sad to see though, was all the fangirls trying to justify what he had done as a misunderstanding or "not that bad" when in fact it was. People need to chill and let idols have their space and privacy. You can waste so much energy on so many other things.
I am not shocked whatsoever at your stories. Thanks for sharing them.
This is your best video yet. Thank you…I love dramas/movies & admire some beautiful celebrities but I never idolize. I only have time to enjoy, not fight wars haha..
I like these type of content from you other than doing dramas/movies review. I like how you did reviews on actor/actress on how they started and where they got to where they are now.
You should do these type of content more. 😊
you said that you aren’t sure whether this video will reach the intended audience, but it did reach me! i’m 14 years old and as someone who is a fan of several east asian idols and actors/actresses, i will definitely always have your message in the back of my mind. it’s not like i’ve been putting these people on a high pedestal or fully idolised them before; but this video really helped open my eyes even more.
thank you for this video! i hope it’ll reach more people like me
Love all your videos, but this one struck a personal chord. I went through the crazy fan girl phase when I was younger, and thankfully only came out with a smaller wallet before I "woke up". I really hope someone who was in my position comes across this video! Powerful message presented beautifully.
this is so saddening…… i’m 21 now and used to “worship” artists back when i was a young teen. me and my friends are huge fans of big bang so when the seungri’s scandal broke out we were all in shock that this was someone we respected and whose songs we grew into adulthood with. since then i’ve been skeptical of the ent. industry but listening to this really makes me worried for the artists i have respect for and wish that they have the mental fortitude to avoid these influences
One of my cousins works in the ent. industry and from her i've heard some crazy, mind boggling stories about what goes on behind the scenes.. so, these days when there's a new scandal, i don't get surprised anymore. and also thank you for the excellent advice.
Share some & enlighten us here pls
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Really enjoyed this video! Hope you can do more entertainment stories
I'm shocked, but not surprised... Thank you so much for sharing!
These entertainers are people, but so many fans don't want to believe that. I admit to being disappointed when I found out that some of the entertainers I like did bad things, but that did not reduce my enjoyment of the movies, dramas, books, music, etc. that they participated in. Also, boycotting something for what 1 or a small # of people did ruins it for the people who did nothing wrong. The entertainers should not be faulted for what their crazy fans did. The people who did something wrong should pay for what they did; not everyone or people were not directly involved.
Thank you for the video. I'm a mother of 2 teenager and i appreciate your efforts to show the real world of entertainment industry. I always try to teach my kids about "the healthy way of being a fan". Back in my younger days,i also a fan of boyband or actor but being a fan those days truly in a different level from fangirling these days. All i done to support them is just buying their CD's and probably a poster. I hope more teenage will be able to see your video. Good job💞💞💞👍
Starts out: “Hand double”
Me: Ahh, I’ve seen that before, nothing special to learn here ig
Me (two minutes later): WTF is wrong with these people
Me (twenty minutes later): I’ve lost my trust in this industry and begins to question the morality of the stars who I support/supported…
Near existential crisis… 🤮
BTW Thanks Avenue X for making this video for the younger generation. As gen Z (go go go!) is trickling into the workforce and fandom, it’s really important to understand that these are only some of the things that are going on behind the curtains. The insider information is beyond beneficial. Thanks again!
True... I agree with you. Focus on their work for entertainment. Do not need to over idolise to the extend of putting excessive emotions, time and effort to defend the idols.
Don't know but I really think that more people should know about the last story. That actress and director just destroyed that girl's whole life. She was so happy but they ruined everything. I know you won't tell us who that person was but more people deserve to know the truth.
Even though this is horrifying, I'm relieved not to hear about the "casting couch" or maybe you left it out. It's crazy that the people who create stories and characters about true love and honor and beauty are really messed up. Thank you for posting this inside info video 👌
I think this sort of video is a perfect counter to other stuff - keep us grounded in reality even as we turn to a lot of escapism with everything wild in the world right now. Excellent work! I hope the actress in the last story is well, wherever she is.
You are a life saver to me.. You are the one whom I was finding for years..A person who will stand by me to support the fact what this entertainment industry is really like... And that happens everywhere.. In any corner of world
I am a teenager turning sixteen soon and can understand where you are coming from. Loved the video. I am really thankful you're doing a video like this.♥️♥️
It remind me something that happened in our country just a few months ago. One young and known politician was really beloved by younger audience due to his approach through sns as he helped to retell the actual coronavirus measures for people, because they were changing everyday. He was quite popular and as I said, young. But somehow it was revealed that he repeatedly invited drunk woman to sex, made suggestions, molested them, and the girls were young, high school students or university students. He quit politics after that but never confessed anything but many women revealed his actions. And what is alarming that some people from the same party even defended him that "If boy wants to get girl into bed, it's totally normal." The man who said that was once president candidate and almost won.
Woah 😯 I guess politics & entertainment are both dirty ey?
@@dirachan5259 Politics & Entertainment were always pretty much dirty unfortunately...
who?
cuomo?
@@dirachan5259 That's why I never believe anything coming out of their mouths. No one climbs that high by being nice and true.
I shares it to all my younger cousins who are obsessive fans gor some of idols and actors, thank you for making this video since you are in the entertainment industry you have had witnessed some crazy behind the scenes of the industry, i think we need to shares your video so the viewer target of this video see this and perhaps took this video as a lesson don't put their ideal on someone they don't know personally and will never know them too, you can like someone but don't do it excessively, it's all fake to satisfy your fantasy so never took it seriously 🙂
I'm a gamer and I found your channel from your Black Myth Wukong videos and found them to be really well made. I want to watch more of your videos but I don't watch tv drama shows. But as a fellow Chinese abroad I appreciate the hell out of your channel.
I feel like celebrity culture anywhere in the world have a slew of dark secrets and skeletons in their closet. Hearing your stories, disturbing; yes. But I'm not surprised these kind if things keeps happening.
I was once a crazy celebrity stan, and then realized all those fanwars aren't worth my time and energy. It's funny thinking about those old days fighting passionately for artists who I don't even know personally. Now, I learned to stay calm and simply enjoy things rationally, I couldn't be more happier 🥂
You're so right. As I am growing older, I understand perfectly. And it's because I'm learning I'm changing. I still chose to believe that there is some good in people. But yes, supporting someone without any thought is not something I will ever do.
I am in my 30's and what you spoke about is the sad truth anywhere there is wealth, power, and fame. In Corporate America, I've seen this reality among executives, and CEO's, so I can only imagine how it would be for famous people. From orgies in corporate offices among the ceo and staff members, to sexual harassment (btw, I worked in HR for years, and have been sexually harassed), to drug abuse, to blackmail, and firing people just because the person doesn't want to kiss their butt, which is illegal in the states (unethical, discriminatory firing). I've had the opportunity to date celebrities in the states, but I passed because I am not going to compete over a man, I am not going to be a trophy, and I don't like the fast life. Humans cannot handle wealth, power, and fame. It turns them into dictators aka witches (obsessed with domination/control).
What you spoke about reminds me of the temptation that Jesus had in Matthew 4 (wealth, power, and fame was offered to him).
GOD WE NEED A REDO...THIS WORLD IS SO EVIL!
Love this video, can't agree more, this video deserve more viewers so they can understand not to idolized actress/actor/idol cross the line and too much, they are human too just remember that.
Thank you for sharing! First hand experience carries a different weight than just hearing it even from trustworthy sources... Thank you for your bravery
Thanks for sharing this. I will love me with all my heart and love those I choose to but I will never loose my self to anyone or anything on earth but I will love love those I choose to.
Thank you for this insight. It just goes to show that behind all the glitz and glamour...there isn’t so much glitz and glamour sadly. I also love that you point out that it is the nature of the entertainment business for shadiness to occur bc I think we tend to forget when we’re looking at our pretty idols. As time has proven again and again, (with all the celeb/entertainment CEOs scandals of sexual harassment etc etc), this makes me sad.
Ngl, I would never be able to tell these kinds of stories like you did, bc I would accidentally let the names slip while trying to keep it a secret XD
Absolutely agree with everything you said! Don’t idealize someone that you don’t or will never personally know. And even if you know someone, you will never know another human fully! You are so wise! ❤️🙏🏻
Very wise words at the end of the video. Celebrities image are created and marketed to appeal to the audience. You will never know what they do outside work or what they've done. You will not even know what their personality is truly like. My advice is don't spend too much money or time with celebrities. It's definitely not worth it
My mom was a theather actress and my dad was a TV producer for a very short time (he kept doing similar work but for educational institutions, so not in the Ent industry). Because of my mom's theather friends I know drugs are quite common. And because my dad ran away from the broadcast company where he got his first job I know how the industry is. He was hired as a producer specifically to ruin an MC's career, which actually didn't happen because my dad was good at his job, so he was sabotaged and eventually fired and paid a large sum of money or paid to quit (I can't remember which). This happened in a small country with a small entertainment industry, so this sort of horrible things happen EVERYWHERE
I have so many teenage aged relatives that I need to refer this video to. This topic is really importante and I'm glad you are talking about it.
I totally agree with the points that you made at the end of the video! For me, it just came to me naturally to always separate the actors and their roles as different beings altogether and just focus more on the character they're playing since irl, they're humans and yeah, humans have many sides in them. Hopefully the entertainment business will get better in the future!
P.S: Will you make more videos like this cause I'm totally interested in listening to more hidden stories like this cough cough forgive my warped heart hehe
I feel like Xiao Zhan is slowly changing the C-ent industry and hope he succeeds. Never seen a celeb not afraid to use the law to protect himself and his supporters (can't say fans because even antis and saesang are also considered 'fans').