The problem with "25% of Britons believe..." *anything* is that at least that number of British people would refuse to give anything but a sarcastic response to *any* poll. A few years back, the BBC ran a poll to see who the public thought was the Greatest British Person in History and they had to weed out endless "comedy" replies, and we selected Homer Simpson as the Greatest Ever American. This is a country that chose Boaty McBoatface when asked to name a new Antarctic Research ship.
It definitely wasn't just brits voting for boaty mcboatface. I think that was more just the internet being the internet. You also have to ask where this survey was taken.. like outside the post office on dole day is going to get v different answer to pension day or others where it's mainly business and bills. Equally what region or area.
Or when the London boroughs of East Ham and West Ham were merged and the residents called upon to choose a new name, the front-runners were "Hamstrung", "Ham Sandwich" and "Ham Sweet Ham"
I've met one or two, but they were definitely taking the piss. I think your average Brit is just a contrarian, like all those Jedis we get on the census forms.
Same here, I’m 40 and have only met one and only one person who didn’t believe. I think after about 5 hours together, smoking weed at Uni, we finally convinced him haha.
My favourite conspiracy about the Moon landings is that Stanley Kubrick actually was hired to direct filming it but he was such a perfectionist he insisted on shooting on location.
Regarding the Van Allen belt, I saw an interview with Van Allen himself who said that if the astronauts lived in it for a few months they'd get quite sick, but travelling through it as fast as they did it would have no effect at all. I think of it like passing your hand through a candle flame.
Also, it's the van Allen BELT, not the van Allenosphere. The radiation is intense at the equator but thins out significantly closer to the poles. They were simply able to avoid most of it.
I'm old enough to have watched it live on the BBC. I was 12 years old at the time and my Dad, me and older brother sat up all night as it unfolded before us. It was an amazing event and I've been hooked on space ever since.
I too was 12 and watched all night, totally amazed. Then when it got light i went out on my roller skates pretending there was very little gravity. That ended less well.
I was 12 as well. It was during school hours in Australia so our teachers brought their little black and white TV's to school so everyone could watch it live.
Unfortunately for us, that is indeed how Brexit happened. There were so many post vote interviews of idiots going "what have I done?" and people Googling "what is the EU"?
David Mitchell was right about people thinking things impossible if they themselves couldn't actually do it. Abd vice versa: I used to be a juggler (not great at all by today's standards!!), and was engaged by a local council to be 'a juggler' at the opening of a playground. There I was juggling 5 balls, and a geezer came up to me, unimpressed, and said he'd seen a bloke on the TV 'doing 108 balls'. I told him the current world record was 8 balls for a full juggle, and 9 for a flash' . His response: "well it was probably. like, 60 balls" Me: "the world record is still 8...." It was then I realised people aren't impressed by things they can't see - e.g. I can watch juggling patterns and be really impressed by the skill, but this guy was just seeing a blur. 5 ball juggling seemed so fast to him that it might as well been 60 or 100!
The world record for a flash is actually 14 balls, set by Alex Barron in 2017. Full juggle is 11 balls. When I was juggling in the early 90s lots of people could juggle 9 balls, and a few could even juggle 9 clubs.
True. Interesting part at the end about "things they can't see". It's worse when you combine things people can't do with things people haven't seen or aren't familiar with, or require more than our senses to prove is happening. I've never heard people doubt pilots can really fly aircraft. Planes are so familiar too us, you can see them flying. People accept it even though they can't do it themselves.
@@BlunderMunchkin It wasn't in 1990-1991 when I was working, and when Anthony Gatto held basically every record. He hadn't even flashed 8 clubs at that point, and was still the only person to perform a 7-club juggle in his show. Sorry, I should have been more clear about the era I was talking about!
Yeah, it's true. For example, I'm really unimpressed at super flashy action scenes in movies. All I can see is blurring lights, it's always disappointing how uninteresting they are.
If I recall correctly, Buzz Aldrin did not punch a fella for “not believing in the moon landing.” He punched him for obnoxiously harassing him and chasing him.
Not entirely correct. Although he was obnoxious and chasing him, he was yelling at Aldrin, "Why don't you swear on the Bible that you landed on the moon? Because you're a fake and a liar!"
You pretty much have to add "about the supposed fake moon landing" at the end of that last sentence. The video is on UA-cam. Buzz was in his 70s, the idiot was in his 30s.
Brit here, no one I know thinks the Americans didn't go to the moon. However, the only banter I heard when we had a bit of culture shock when visiting the infamous new york subway system and we looked around in disbelief and my mate said "and these guys went to the moon?"
My step dad thinks the earth is flat and moon landing is faked Also believes government put chemicals into the atmosphere to brainwash people into rioting
A friend told me about visiting a car repair shop a couple of days before. He said that, when he walked in, he could hear someone swearing and cursing from the engine bay of an elderly car of British manufacture. He thought it might have been a Wolseley. As he watched (and listened), the tirade of oaths suddenly stopped and the mechanic backed out of the car, clutching a filthy, oily component. He held it up, contemplated it for a brief moment and snarled "no wonder the poms never got to the moon". O, how we laughed.
I feel like they should add two questions to all voting slips... 1) Did we land on the Moon. Yes/No 2) What shape is the Earth. Spherical/Flat If you answer No and/or Flat, they just throw your vote away
@@charlesknowles7697I made this point in a WhatsApp group not so long ago and 3 people I once considered friends no longer speak to me 😂😂 something to do with eugenics apparently Although I would add a third question: Did one of the richest men in the world, whose UI (or a cross platform integration app thereof) is installed on approximately 94% of smartphones and 80% of all desk/lap top computer systems in the world, plan the release of a highly contagious virus so we could all be injected with microchips for him to 'track' us 🤦♂️
They went through the thinnest part of the Van Allen belt, at around 50,000 mph. Alpha and beta particles are easily absorbed or reflected by thin foil. Gamma and X rays were the hazard; but with the shielding, the astronauts were only exposed to the equivalent of four xray's worth of radiation. Oh, and I've seen the lunar ranging lasers, that bounce of retro-reflectors installed by all the teams being used. I've seen the raw data from seismometers that were buried in the lunar surface under the regolith. The "conspiracy" people are either stupid, gullible or flat out lying. There are 77 space agencies, 26 of whom currently have launch capability. Three of them had lunar probes in orbit taking photos. Photos of all six landing sites. Moon landing deniers, try me... I double dare you.
I think that someone once worked out that to keep the conspiracy there would have to be something like three hundred thousand people sworn to secrecy and keeping to it for their whole lives.
People don't understand radiation is all exposure over time. Where they were could have killed them if they weren't in a metal ship and stayed there for 5 months. it's similar to asbestos. Asbestos can kill you but generally won't cause an issue unless you are breathing it in every day for years.
@pem... Yes. It did. The flights were tracked by normal members of the public all around the globe. Ham radio. It had to be aimed in the right direction. They needed to point towards the moon to get signals. The signal delay showed they were a quarter of a million miles away. It happened. Get over yourself.
There is a Mitchel & Webb sketch called *Conspiracy* consisting of 3 different conspiracy theories, one of which is the "fake" moon landing. It's very good.
My wife bought me one for my 50th, still have it now 12 years later. It used to sit on my desk at work, sometimes I'd use it to give the answers to questions, that I couldn't give through fear of getting sacked. 🤣😂🇬🇧
The clincher is that the Chinese sent up a spacecraft that orbited the moon, mapping the surface and they took photographs of the NASA landing sites on the moon. They are on the internet for all to see. There are also photographs form Japan, S Korea, and India, as well as NASA, all confirming the landings. it's not as if the four other countries would fake photographs to confirm the US moon landings. 😂
Unfortunately the same response can be given that's often made to the fact that two countries other than the US tracked the moon landings with radio telescopes, one being the USSR. "They're in on it to" or "This proves it's an even bigger conspiracy" etc.
Also the USSR would have absolutely called America out if they were faked as they were close to putting a man on the Moon themselves. So they KNEW it wasn't faked
There's also mirrors we put on the moon that you can bounce lasers off from Earth. And the sheer impracticality of maintaining the lie given how many people would have to be involved. And the absence of any real pay off that would make hoaxing it worthwhile. It is genuinely depressing that a small but vocal bunch of people are so determined to undermine one of humanity's greatest achievements, all the while smugly congratulating themselves on being skeptics and free thinkers (when neither skepticism nor free thinking would ever lead you to the conclusion it was a hoax; both dictate a careful consideration of the evidence which, in the case of the moon landings, is overwhelming).
The main issues people talk about with the Van Allen radiation belt is the heat. The particles there are incredibly full of energy. The reason this doesn’t mean anything is because they are just particles. If that was an issue, people would hate photons. The radiation would be an issue if you stayed in it for long, but they aren’t actually in the radiation belt for very long so it isn’t really an issue. Great vid!
Yes, it also varies in strength which early Pioneer probes detected, so aside from the high speed the Apollo spacecraft went through them they knew where to avoid. Lived in the UK all my life, never met anyone who believes in this conspiracy so I do doubt that number. Might depend on age group/demographics.
Also, all the information about space radiation people get from the space agencies, so why do they believe that information but not the information about the moon landings? What's their basis for how they pick the information?
I think the biggest risk with the Van Allen belt is secondary radiation from the high energy particles interacting with materials on the hull. Which is of course why they avoided it as much as they could, but it's not going to be lethal if you don't spend too long in it, and don't do it too often. A little bit of gamma radiation and the like.
Not just that the belts aren't constant, they ebb and flow with sun activity so missions were planned for the low periods. Also much of the radiation (alphe & beta if I remember right) can be blocked by quite a thin layer of metal foil (much like on earth) so its just the gamma levels that have to be monitored closely.
Years ago I saw a Catsdown with the Indian/American comic who was in Source Code. He said he was at a bus stop talking to an Indian Scientist who denied the Moon Landings. Jimmy Carr said, "Yes, but this was a Scientist waiting at a bus stop!"
Ah yes the moon landings, a gift that just keeps on giving. Of course the landings were real! The gentleman that Alan Davies mentioned is amazing, read up on Patrick Moore, a hero in the field of space knowledge, self taught and ending working with NASA, what a guy. Unfortunately we in UK also have knob heads, by the sound of it too many for comfort.
6% of American and 25% of Brits who were asked...it depends where they went to ask. There are some places in Norfolk and Cornwall that are still scared when they see an aircraft in the sky.
I did wonder what the current stats were because this episode must be about 15 years old now. The 25% figure is current for Europe in general, and the US number is rising...
@rlawrence9838 His real name is Eugene Aldrin Jr. QI brought this up in the Combustion episode. Alan Davies also thinks Ulysses S. Grant's middle name is 'Sausage'. :P
I once had a bit of a 'do' with a guy in a pub about the moon landings. He's obviously been watching dumb You Tube vids about the angles of the shadows and he insisted there must have been two light sources to cause the effect. I asked 'OK, if there were two lights, why wasn't every object casting two shadows?' That made him go quiet.
The problem with people like is they only go quiet for a moment. In my experience, even if you comprehensively knock down one of their arguments they just move on to the next one.
I remember The Moon ladings. I was 15 in 1969 stayed up all night to watch it. Very tense as they landed. The 1st mission they only took a black and white camera. I'm not sure if it was the next mission. But I remember when they took a colour camera. A group of us, went to to mates house who had a colour TV. The astronaut started filming and accidently pointed the camera at the sun. no more colour footage
Yeah, thanks to Alan Bean on Apollo12, which landed very close to Surveyor 3 and brought back parts from it. I was disappointed because I was looking forward to seeing live TV coverage of that.
I was 18, one of the women at work brought in her portable TV and we all stood around the accounts department avidly watching it. Exciting times watching Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins make history.
QI is one of my favourite shows, it’s informative as well as funny, and always feel good after watching an episode. Please do more if you can. Hi from Australia, I have only recently started watching your content and hope you do very well making these videos :)
I've been a member of 6 major opinion poll panels for almost 2 decades. These are the ones they show results from on the news. I must have filled out well over a thousand surveys by now. To the best of my knowledge I've never told the truth in any of them.
@@ahillmann Well lets see...nope. You're not SUPPOSED to do anything. You can choose. & since I don't know you, have never met you & never will, I really couldn't give a fraction of a fuck what you believe about anything. But thanks for asking. Have a great day.
The phrase "conspiracy theory" was invented by the CIA. They used this term to discredit those who accused them of having involvement in the assassination of JFK. A few years ago government documents were released proving that the CIA was involved. Of course people have been to the moon, but that doesn't mean that all conspiracies are untrue. In fact, the whole term is a gaslight/red herring.
I'm sure of that. Not only Brits, it's the case everywhere, though perhaps more so in the UK. Anyway, it's also why the polls for the US presidential elections almost never accurately reflect the eventual results. So many people deliberately give misleading responses, for whatever reason. You're never going to assemble a group of, say, 100 people where everyone is going to be sincere and honest about a task. We're too unreliable as a species.
Van Allen Belts -:re your space radiation, KB... I think the NASA scientists worked out a route to avoid the heaviest concentrated areas, plus their ships (the conjoined Mother Ship + the Moon Lander) would have had some form of suitable shielding at the points of most likely contact... Am no expert either, but I seem to recall similar arguements for / against travelling to and from the Moon and those "pesky" 'Van Allen Radiation Belts'!!
As far as I remember, it's called the Van Allen Belt. I got up at three in the morning to watch the moon landing programme. Used to love The Sky At Night with Patrick Moore. There was one time that a waterspout hurtled inland through Patrick's garden and wrecked his garden observatory. His response? "Well! . . . I certainly could have done without THAT, I can tell you!"
I just want to say, ignoring the government agency aspect of the space programs, there are people who literally devote their entire lives, and who have devoted their entire lives, to the pursuit of space exploration. Imagine if you devoted your entire life to a pursuit, you reached an unbelievable milestone in it, then half of the world just tells you you made the entire thing up. Can''t really imagine how frustrating that'd be. Like, as a writer, I wouldn't be very happy if I released a high-selling book, then instead of celebrating the achievement with me, everyone around me was like "lol you didn't write that. Someone ghost wrote it for you". That'd be absolutely soul-crushing for me. Just looking at it from an empathetic POV, it's easy to see why people get so angry over this conspiracy.
I can't imagine how anyone could fake NASA: those centres in Houston & the main site, the launch sites, the tv coverage, Challenger (imagine faking that!), all those 50s & early 60s unsuccessful launches that were filmed and seen all round the world. Surely in the last 50+ years, there would have been ONE whistleblower who would have exposed the whole house of cards, if that's what it's been.
No, he asked Buzz Aldrin to swear on the bible he had walked on the moon. The same individual had asked three other Apollo astronauts the same thing and they all had refused. Instead Aldrin punched him.
I watched a lot of the landings live on TV. There is a Video on YT by an old school film maker who explains that we didn’t have the video recording technology back then to fake hours of live TV.
@@garysibley4741 I'll have to correct you there. With regards to the Earth, that's the second law of Flermodynamics. Question for flerfs. If the Earth is in a pressurised container (in effect), why do we have an atmospheric pressure gradient.
Some idiot in my local pub tried to convince everyone the Earth is flat. His mobile phone rang and he went outside to shout at it, leaving an unlit cigarette on the bar. I put the heel of my hand on it and squashed it. When he came back in, he picked it up and looked at it in confusion. "Cigarettes aren't round Owen, they're flat." End of discussion.
Have you ever visited the space centre just south of Houston? Wifey and me went last year, they take you to the mission control room and replay the moon landing as it was viewed from there, it's really impressive. Though I admit, I got more excited about seeing longhorns in the adjacent field!
I'll never understand why some Americans want to cast doubt against their nation's greatest achievement. One of the world's greatest achievements, if you ask me. I would sort of understand it if some other countries were calling it fake to discredit the US, but not its own people. It obviously happened, and I'm just jealous I wasn't around to see it in 69. I hope to see the first human land on Mars.
@@ElGordo1959 True. People can be fooled to vote against their own interests. And now they're about to reap what they sowed. I can't feel any sympathy for them.
One of the greatest achievements? At the time, the vast majority of American population didn't support the lunar missions (just like Vietnam War), but U.S. gov' had to do it, or else the USSR would, and that would be bad, I guess, for some reason. Even though USSR still won like 9/10 of the space race goals (with the power of not giving a s about the people and what they think). And also, what did it accomplish, exactly? Other than proving that it's possible? And taking a few super awesome pictures?
The radiation belt issue is called the Van Allen belts. They do have high amount of radiation but two things mitigated the radiation. 1) They travelled very quickly through them. They were never staying in orbit with the belts. The other thing their trajectory to and from the moon went slightly above or below (I can't remember which) the center of the belts. So minimizing the amount of exposure even less.
One of my college tutors said he didn’t believe the Moon landings happened, this is somebody who teaches other people 🥴 he said he believed “America and Russia worked together to fake it” 😂 during the Cold War when both countries were racing to be the first to the Moon, they were working together?? lol I couldn’t contain my laughter but he was deadly serious.
@@chrispalmer7893Firstly look at the flag of the UN, look at it and describe what you see. If you see it, you'll getting closer to why the world's PTB have a reason. Then you can go to question 2. Is it possible theirs something on the other side? Outer lands, or extra territories.
@@garysibley4741 I guess criminals always make that one fatal mistake. The UN's being that they accidentally put the secret to their conspiracy on their flag?
The only way he could explain how the USSR did not immediately call BS if the Americans faked landing on the moon was that they were in a conspiracy together. It is conspiracies all the way down, boys.
Buzz Aldrin didn't punch Bart Sibrel for not believing in the lunar landings, Buzz punched him for calling him a thief, a coward and a liar and for acosting him and scaring his stepdaughter. Sibrel himself was actually lying about his intentions when he ambushed Buzz; he barged into him and his stepdaughter, blocked his path physically and then tried to force him to swear on a Bible about the veracity of the Apollo missions, which is certainly not a nice thing to do. Even in spite of this behaviour, Buzz still asked him to leave him alone before resorting to giving him a smack when Sibrel continued to harass him. Suggesting that a guy who flew 66 combat missions in F-86 Sabres over Korea, where he shot down at least two MiG-15s, did one of the first spacewalks - on Gemini 12 - and was the lunar module pilot for Apollo 11, is a coward, is of course ludicrous, but more than this, if you watch the footage of the incident and how horrible Sibrel's behaviour is, it tells you all you need to know about Bart Sibrel and why quite frankly, he deserved a smack in the chops. With regard to the exposure to radiation in the Van Allen Belts. The Apollo craft spent around 50 minutes transiting the weakest part of the Belt, not forgetting that the material the craft was made of, and the instruments lining the inside of the craft provided a great deal of shielding. It is estimated that the Apollo 11 crew received 0.18 rem each on average. A typical CT scan delivers more than this, at about 1 rem, and a fatal dose for a human would have to be 300 rem or more, and this in a very short span of time to be so, if that was spread over weeks or even days, there would be few effects from even that. Thus the less than 20 percent of just one rem, which the Apollo crews were exposed to, was to all intents and purposes, negligible. That Moon landing deniers bring this up, relying on the idea that most people will simplistically conclude 'radiation exposure = deadly', is typical of the ignorant and disingenous things they say.
Yes, Buzz Aldrin punched a guy called Bart Sibrel. Sibrel followed him around outside a hotel in Beverley Hills for more than 10 minutes, needling and goading him. The final straw was when Sibrel called Aldrin a coward. You can call Mr Aldrin many things - a bad car salesman. a Trump supporter (he is, but for reasons of NASA's funding shortfall), but you do not call Mr Aldrin a coward. He is, following the deaths of Collins and Armstrong, maybe the bravest man on the planet. I named my youtube channel after him - a great, great man.
He's a liar and a fake. Cos we DIDNT land on the moon. The only Buzz I respect had a friend named Woody and risked everything to save his tiny plastic buddies from the evil clutches of ZURG!
I heard that when the guy tried to sue Aldrin for assault, the judge threw it out of court saying that he had it coming for harassing an old man (and national hero).
Sibrel also invited Buzz to talk to school kids across the nation which Buzz Aldrin flew in for. Only for the entire thing to be a hoax to get him to show up so he could haras him. The guy tried to sue but the guys video he submited for evidence showed the guy physically restraining Buzz and assaulting him. Sibrel is lucky Buzz didn't push for false imprisonment and assault charges.
@buzzrighthook. perhaps you should watch the Bart Sibrel documentary "A funny thing happened on the way to the moon" proves we didn't go. Never left low Earth orbit. And on upon returning at the press conference why did the astronauts disagree on whether or not they could see stars from out in space? Armstrong said he was seeing all the stars and then they corrected him in a very nervous way.
Thanks for the math's ... hopefully the actual number would be very much smaller considering the children/adult and or uneducated or mentally ill stats...etc I'd comfortably say it's less than 100,000 or maybe even less than half of that 🤔🤞
Might I add, if you remember the computer graphics used for cutting edge music videos in the early 80's, such as used by Dire Straights, and you understood that that was a good fifteen years after the Moon Landings took place, you would understand that there was absolutely No way possible the footage was capable of being mocked up at that time.
Really? FROM GAMMA RADIATION? It didn't take that much shielding, huh? I suppose some tin foil was enough? XD Then you better call Harper Collins and tell them that every single encyclopedia they ever wrote is WRONG. And tell every physicist on the planet that you DONT NEED 12 inches of lead to stop gamma rays. THe MOON LANDING proved gamma radiation WAS FAKE! Who knew!
1. The time spent in the Van Allen Radiation belts was very short due to the speed of the Apollo craft 2. Most of the radiation was alpha and beta particles, which can be stopped by a sheet of paper. 3. The trip was through the weakest parts of the belts.
There is an excellent explanation about the Van Allen belt that was posted very recently on Dave McKeegan’s channel. His explanations are always on point.
I read somewhere that when the crew were trying to decide what Armstrong would say when he set foot on the surface Michael Collins dared him to look to one side, shout "OH MY GOD, WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?!" and cut his camera feed.
The first landing pictures was downloaded by a Telescope at Parkes NSW and sent around the world because they were detectable in the Southern Hemisphere at the hour
@@bloodyliar They discovered the Van Allen Belt circa 1957. All I know is that its shaped like a doughnut. Dont know how or why it forms that way. Probably something to do with radiation from the sun interacting with earths magnetic field
This is an old clip so who knows what it is like now. A Statista Research Department had a poll with 35% of Americans not believing on the Moon landings. A C-SPAN/Ipsos poll put it at 11%. So it goes up and down over time and polling techniques and sample sizes and polling bias all play a part. We are now in an age of politicians and political commentators wanting to embed mistrust of science and data. Anti intellectualism, anti science and anti schooling is growing on both sides of the pond (when America leads, Britain follows) and it will only get worse
The van allen radiation belt is what you are thinking of. They got through it by going through the thinner parts of it, using speed to their advantage to minimise the exposure time and shielding, they also wore dosimeters to measure their personal radiation levels.
The number is definitely higher than 6% in Canada. The general public here is just as ignorant as the U.S, we are just nicer about it. Some interactions I have had with people in just the last few days: "Hmm.." (picks up orange popsicle) "What flavour is this?" "Me: ..." "Me: ... I believe that one is ... orange. >_>" "Gonna be a foggy night tonight, eh?" "Yep. Fucking government. Weather manipulation." "No. no. ...no. impossible." WHY!? How could they spend the 100 quintillion dollars that it would take to develop such technology and the only purpose is to annoy some lady with fog? How are they getting their investment back?! Such a stupid thought. This was the same lady who told me that if Trump didn't win against Biden the first time, the entire internet would go down across the world for 3 weeks. I was trying to explain to her how that is simply impossible but she knows nothing about anything so it was impossible. So he lost, the internet didn't go down and I didn't have the heart to confront her about it lol. She also said the mail-in ballots were rigged for biden, but how does that make sense? Trump was saying the entire mail-in voting system was a scam and that if you were voting for him, to do it in person. So what kinda stupid do you have to be to think the mail-in ballots were going to be for trump? If you were a trump voter who voted by mail-in, you didn't listen to trump at all!! It was all so damned moronic. Yeah we talk about trump here too, our politics are woke on both sides so nothing we can do about it.
The van allen belt is the radiation field you're referring to. A few points about that: 1) It's called a belt because it isn't a sphere around the world, it's more donut shaped around the equator. 2) The ships did have shielding. 3) The amount of time you spend in there matters, it's not instant death 4) they didn't fly through the middle of it where radiation was highest, the flight path went north and skirted the edge. All in all, the radiation dose received was not life threatening.
Hey, KB. Some other muppet might have already pointed this out, but Mitchell and Webb have a series of sketches about various conspiracy theories. I'm sure you'd enjoy them if you haven't already seen them. Geoff in France. Edit.. there it is, the same suggestion 22 hours before mine. Now I'm the muppet.
I once sat down and figured out the net exposure the astronauts would have undergone while passing through the Van Allen belts. Radiation exposure is a matter of total exposure (half the exposure at twice the duration is about as harmful, for nontrivial doses) and in the Astronauts' case the exposure was relatively brief and not all that high, being in a vacuum and all. I think I figured out that you get more exposure getting an X-ray.
I like the response from The Click: when someone goes "Do you really think the Moon landings were not faked?" the correct response is "HA! You think *the Moon* is REAL???"
As a kid growing up in Australia watching "MrSquggle the man from the Moon" I have an image of an enraged Buzz Aldrin beating him up after he was caught doing graffiti on the lunar module
The radiation you referred to is called (The Van Allen Belt) they passed through it so quickly it was not of significant impotence, and no more dangerous than having about 4 X-rays at hospital/dentist...
I'm a Brit. I believe in the heroism, bravery and ingenuity of three exemplary human beings, and that they DID land on the moon. May their names be remembered for ever. Also, I agree with baconhooper about the survey. It depends on the answers the surveyors want as to who gets asked the questions (and the way the questions are formatted. This is true for all surveys). FYI Find and watch YES PRIME MINISTER episode LEADING QUESTIONS. Sir Humphry will put you staright on surveys.
The radiation you’re referring to is called the Van Allen Belt. The belt is actually two belts, the inner belt, which has the stronger radiation, and the outer belt. This radiation is indeed dangerous to humans and is very hard to shield against. At the most intense areas of the inner belt, an individual would receive a fatal dose of radiation in about a week. The Apollo missions crossed that region in about 15 minutes, and the less dangerous, outer belt, in about two hours. The radiation exposure on a round trip is less than 1% of a fatal dose, in fact, you are exposed to more radiation from a CT scan, than any of the Apollo missions. Here’s a quote that sums this conspiracy up nicely: “The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense.” The guy who said that is Dr. James Van Allen. Yes, the same man who discovered the belts and of whom they are named. If anyone would know, it would be him.
My old primary school here in North Wales has some NASA plaques given to it back in the 70s by a NASA engineer, a former pupil, who was a part of the Mercury and Apollo programmes.
You should try to get clips of David Mitchell versus Bob Mortimer on ‘Would I lie to you’. There are several, get them in date order if possible as Mitchell gets more and more frustrated!
Thing about the radiation in the Van Allen Belt is that NASA had a lot of very smart people working there. Remember all the missions that happened before Apollo and then even Apollo had several building up to actually going to the Moon and then even before actually landing there. They calculated the radiation exposure. They crafted the spacecraft, suits and other equipment accordingly. In fact the greater worry was exposure on the moon itself. Outside of Earths magnetic field and outside the shielding a spacecraft can provide. Thus the people who went to the Moon actually got significantly higher exposure than the person who stayed in orbit for each mission. But neither of the Astronauts got exposed to a truly dangerous degree (though a medical professional might still argue it was still a worrying degree given the time frame). In the end the Moon landings remain a great achievement of great diligence, intelligence as well as a good amount of dare do.
While working as a teacher in a UK prison I had a conversation with a young man who said that the moon landing was fake. I asked him “What about the other moon landings?” He was totally taken aback. He thought it was just the one. I continued about moon buggies they drove around and the Russians’ Lunarkhod. “For goodness sake!” I said, “There’s practically a used car lot up there!” He slunk away in confusion.
There's a lot to say about this one. Corridor Crew pointed out as film makers that the amazing footage would have been extremely difficult to reproduce with the special effects of the day. As good as 2001 looks, it doesn't look as good as the real thing. Images that appear to be fake footage from the time were actually dramatized documentary style reporting on the moon missions, that no-one at the time claimed to be real, it was a simulation before computer sims were available, made to give viewers quality color images of what a moon landing would look like. One of the biggest culprits in spreading modern lunacy is a mockumentary called "Dark Side of the Moon", 2002 that was actually mocking the fake moon landing believers. The makers premise was to show how film could be manipulated to manipulate an audience. The makers inserted many clues in it to show it as fake, unfortunately the presentation was so convincing that most people who saw it believed it. The clues included the fake experts shown had names of famous characters of fiction. The real government officials who appear to be admitting to fraud were being asked questions that were completely unrelated to the moon landings and the questions were edited out and the answers edited down. To this day, even people I know, tell me the truth about the moon was revealed in that "documentary".
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The problem with "25% of Britons believe..." *anything* is that at least that number of British people would refuse to give anything but a sarcastic response to *any* poll. A few years back, the BBC ran a poll to see who the public thought was the Greatest British Person in History and they had to weed out endless "comedy" replies, and we selected Homer Simpson as the Greatest Ever American. This is a country that chose Boaty McBoatface when asked to name a new Antarctic Research ship.
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It definitely wasn't just brits voting for boaty mcboatface. I think that was more just the internet being the internet.
You also have to ask where this survey was taken.. like outside the post office on dole day is going to get v different answer to pension day or others where it's mainly business and bills.
Equally what region or area.
Or when the London boroughs of East Ham and West Ham were merged and the residents called upon to choose a new name, the front-runners were "Hamstrung", "Ham Sandwich" and "Ham Sweet Ham"
thats what we do best lol
A paragraph that be a sentence.
How fkn british.
Talk propa nd get t the point.
Brit here. In my 42 years on this planet, I have never met another Brit who did not believe in the moon landings. Probably a bad survey
Yeah I’ve only met 1 or 2, that I’m aware of
I've met one or two, but they were definitely taking the piss.
I think your average Brit is just a contrarian, like all those Jedis we get on the census forms.
Same. I've never met anyone who genuinely doesn't believe it....whereas online MANY claim not to, presumably to antagonise others 😂
If a survey doesn't align your own anecdotal experiences, then the survey must be wrong? Hopelessly irrational nonsense.
Same here, I’m 40 and have only met one and only one person who didn’t believe. I think after about 5 hours together, smoking weed at Uni, we finally convinced him haha.
My favourite conspiracy about the Moon landings is that Stanley Kubrick actually was hired to direct filming it but he was such a perfectionist he insisted on shooting on location.
* Kubrick
@m-arky66 right you are, fixing it now.
Stephen Toast found the truth of this matter!
Eyes wide shut!
@@m-arky66Spelling police, get a life!
You're referring to the Van Halen belt, it doesn't harm humans, but it does shred guitars.
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Is that why it’s so easy to Jump on the Moon? Nothing else to do, Might as well, Jump.
I think you mean the Van Allen Belt 😂
@BenLaws-m9j do you now
@@BenLaws-m9j I think your mum should have drank less wine when she was pregnant.
Regarding the Van Allen belt, I saw an interview with Van Allen himself who said that if the astronauts lived in it for a few months they'd get quite sick, but travelling through it as fast as they did it would have no effect at all. I think of it like passing your hand through a candle flame.
Also, it's the van Allen BELT, not the van Allenosphere. The radiation is intense at the equator but thins out significantly closer to the poles. They were simply able to avoid most of it.
You know when David Mitchell is so angry he's speechless that he's really really angry 😂😂
The only bad part about Aldrin punching a denier is he didnt finish it with "Now you can see the fucking stars!"
Bang , zoom To the moon Alice..
I'm old enough to have watched it live on the BBC. I was 12 years old at the time and my Dad, me and older brother sat up all night as it unfolded before us. It was an amazing event and I've been hooked on space ever since.
Thought you were talking about this episode of QI for a sec lol!
I too was 12 and watched all night, totally amazed. Then when it got light i went out on my roller skates pretending there was very little gravity. That ended less well.
me too
I was 12 as well. It was during school hours in Australia so our teachers brought their little black and white TV's to school so everyone could watch it live.
Yup. I was 16 and had been following the programmes on TV. I stayed up almost all night to make an audio recording of the landing from the TV.
99.9% of we Brits do believe in the moon landings. It's just that we like to play games with surveys and such for a laugh.
Is that why you had brexit?
@@tj-scottOh, we have our moments 😅
Unfortunately for us, that is indeed how Brexit happened. There were so many post vote interviews of idiots going "what have I done?" and people Googling "what is the EU"?
That's why we English invented the name....BOATY MCBOATFACE ...for an artic explorer ship 😋
I don't
David Mitchell was right about people thinking things impossible if they themselves couldn't actually do it.
Abd vice versa: I used to be a juggler (not great at all by today's standards!!), and was engaged by a local council to be 'a juggler' at the opening of a playground.
There I was juggling 5 balls, and a geezer came up to me, unimpressed, and said he'd seen a bloke on the TV 'doing 108 balls'.
I told him the current world record was 8 balls for a full juggle, and 9 for a flash' .
His response: "well it was probably. like, 60 balls"
Me: "the world record is still 8...."
It was then I realised people aren't impressed by things they can't see - e.g. I can watch juggling patterns and be really impressed by the skill, but this guy was just seeing a blur. 5 ball juggling seemed so fast to him that it might as well been 60 or 100!
The world record for a flash is actually 14 balls, set by Alex Barron in 2017. Full juggle is 11 balls.
When I was juggling in the early 90s lots of people could juggle 9 balls, and a few could even juggle 9 clubs.
True. Interesting part at the end about "things they can't see". It's worse when you combine things people can't do with things people haven't seen or aren't familiar with, or require more than our senses to prove is happening.
I've never heard people doubt pilots can really fly aircraft. Planes are so familiar too us, you can see them flying. People accept it even though they can't do it themselves.
@@BlunderMunchkin I saw a guy juggle 15 balls, and three bags :) (each bag contained 5 balls) ;)
@@BlunderMunchkin It wasn't in 1990-1991 when I was working, and when Anthony Gatto held basically every record.
He hadn't even flashed 8 clubs at that point, and was still the only person to perform a 7-club juggle in his show.
Sorry, I should have been more clear about the era I was talking about!
Yeah, it's true. For example, I'm really unimpressed at super flashy action scenes in movies. All I can see is blurring lights, it's always disappointing how uninteresting they are.
If I recall correctly, Buzz Aldrin did not punch a fella for “not believing in the moon landing.” He punched him for obnoxiously harassing him and chasing him.
correct
Not entirely correct. Although he was obnoxious and chasing him, he was yelling at Aldrin, "Why don't you swear on the Bible that you landed on the moon? Because you're a fake and a liar!"
It must be so annoying to be harassed, knowing you and your family will be bumped off if you tell the truth.
You pretty much have to add "about the supposed fake moon landing" at the end of that last sentence. The video is on UA-cam. Buzz was in his 70s, the idiot was in his 30s.
Brit here, no one I know thinks the Americans didn't go to the moon. However, the only banter I heard when we had a bit of culture shock when visiting the infamous new york subway system and we looked around in disbelief and my mate said "and these guys went to the moon?"
My step dad thinks the earth is flat and moon landing is faked
Also believes government put chemicals into the atmosphere to brainwash people into rioting
I visited NYC in 2022 and the New York Subway is like stepping back in time 😂
i think that hits the nail on the head it's not disbelief that man could put a man on the moon its disbelief that Americans could do it
A friend told me about visiting a car repair shop a couple of days before. He said that, when he walked in, he could hear someone swearing and cursing from the engine bay of an elderly car of British manufacture. He thought it might have been a Wolseley.
As he watched (and listened), the tirade of oaths suddenly stopped and the mechanic backed out of the car, clutching a filthy, oily component. He held it up, contemplated it for a brief moment and snarled "no wonder the poms never got to the moon".
O, how we laughed.
I feel like they should add two questions to all voting slips...
1) Did we land on the Moon. Yes/No
2) What shape is the Earth. Spherical/Flat
If you answer No and/or Flat, they just throw your vote away
And sterilise 😂.
Great Idea. Too late I fear.
@@charlesknowles7697I made this point in a WhatsApp group not so long ago and 3 people I once considered friends no longer speak to me 😂😂 something to do with eugenics apparently
Although I would add a third question:
Did one of the richest men in the world, whose UI (or a cross platform integration app thereof) is installed on approximately 94% of smartphones and 80% of all desk/lap top computer systems in the world, plan the release of a highly contagious virus so we could all be injected with microchips for him to 'track' us 🤦♂️
It's great to see the left cheek and the right cheek picking whom becomes the arsehole in the middle. Uni party forever?
Yeah but phrased a bit different since it's not quite a sphere. The spin throws it outward a bit making it slightly fatter east/west than north/south.
They went through the thinnest part of the Van Allen belt, at around 50,000 mph. Alpha and beta particles are easily absorbed or reflected by thin foil. Gamma and X rays were the hazard; but with the shielding, the astronauts were only exposed to the equivalent of four xray's worth of radiation.
Oh, and I've seen the lunar ranging lasers, that bounce of retro-reflectors installed by all the teams being used.
I've seen the raw data from seismometers that were buried in the lunar surface under the regolith.
The "conspiracy" people are either stupid, gullible or flat out lying.
There are 77 space agencies, 26 of whom currently have launch capability.
Three of them had lunar probes in orbit taking photos. Photos of all six landing sites.
Moon landing deniers, try me... I double dare you.
I think that someone once worked out that to keep the conspiracy there would have to be something like three hundred thousand people sworn to secrecy and keeping to it for their whole lives.
Anyone that uses the term 'double dare' in this day and age [or ever] is a complete and utter wanker.
Is that trying enough?
Didn't happen
People don't understand radiation is all exposure over time. Where they were could have killed them if they weren't in a metal ship and stayed there for 5 months. it's similar to asbestos. Asbestos can kill you but generally won't cause an issue unless you are breathing it in every day for years.
@pem... Yes. It did. The flights were tracked by normal members of the public all around the globe. Ham radio. It had to be aimed in the right direction. They needed to point towards the moon to get signals.
The signal delay showed they were a quarter of a million miles away.
It happened. Get over yourself.
I'm glad you werent put off giving QI a chance because of its educational nature. Loving the reactions!
There is a Mitchel & Webb sketch called *Conspiracy* consisting of 3 different conspiracy theories, one of which is the "fake" moon landing. It's very good.
Wouldn't it be cheaper if we just went to the moon and faked the landing there?
@@dunbar9fingerdon't forget we need to keep the successful landing on Mars a complete secret.
When people ask us how we got to the moon, we'll have to say "in that big rocket we launched."
So we're not actually saving any money on the rocket?
I love that sketch .... "But why?"
"It's just something governments ... do"
"It's nice to have secrets".
One of my favourite quotes in tv sketch-comedy history is: "Fake the footage of the fake Moon landing on the Moon? What if people found out?"
You should watch the clangers to see the soup dragon Shaun is taking about.
My wife bought me one for my 50th, still have it now 12 years later. It used to sit on my desk at work, sometimes I'd use it to give the answers to questions, that I couldn't give through fear of getting sacked. 🤣😂🇬🇧
The clincher is that the Chinese sent up a spacecraft that orbited the moon, mapping the surface and they took photographs of the NASA landing sites on the moon. They are on the internet for all to see. There are also photographs form Japan, S Korea, and India, as well as NASA, all confirming the landings. it's not as if the four other countries would fake photographs to confirm the US moon landings. 😂
Unfortunately the same response can be given that's often made to the fact that two countries other than the US tracked the moon landings with radio telescopes, one being the USSR. "They're in on it to" or "This proves it's an even bigger conspiracy" etc.
Also the USSR would have absolutely called America out if they were faked as they were close to putting a man on the Moon themselves. So they KNEW it wasn't faked
Yes, but if you believe in the idea of a NWO then this argument becomes irrelevant. Not saying I believe this, I'm just pointing it out
There's also mirrors we put on the moon that you can bounce lasers off from Earth. And the sheer impracticality of maintaining the lie given how many people would have to be involved. And the absence of any real pay off that would make hoaxing it worthwhile.
It is genuinely depressing that a small but vocal bunch of people are so determined to undermine one of humanity's greatest achievements, all the while smugly congratulating themselves on being skeptics and free thinkers (when neither skepticism nor free thinking would ever lead you to the conclusion it was a hoax; both dictate a careful consideration of the evidence which, in the case of the moon landings, is overwhelming).
I bet you MARVEL at the brilliant level of CGI in those films.
The main issues people talk about with the Van Allen radiation belt is the heat. The particles there are incredibly full of energy. The reason this doesn’t mean anything is because they are just particles. If that was an issue, people would hate photons. The radiation would be an issue if you stayed in it for long, but they aren’t actually in the radiation belt for very long so it isn’t really an issue.
Great vid!
Yes, it also varies in strength which early Pioneer probes detected, so aside from the high speed the Apollo spacecraft went through them they knew where to avoid.
Lived in the UK all my life, never met anyone who believes in this conspiracy so I do doubt that number. Might depend on age group/demographics.
Also, all the information about space radiation people get from the space agencies, so why do they believe that information but not the information about the moon landings? What's their basis for how they pick the information?
I think the biggest risk with the Van Allen belt is secondary radiation from the high energy particles interacting with materials on the hull. Which is of course why they avoided it as much as they could, but it's not going to be lethal if you don't spend too long in it, and don't do it too often. A little bit of gamma radiation and the like.
Not just that the belts aren't constant, they ebb and flow with sun activity so missions were planned for the low periods. Also much of the radiation (alphe & beta if I remember right) can be blocked by quite a thin layer of metal foil (much like on earth) so its just the gamma levels that have to be monitored closely.
Years ago I saw a Catsdown with the Indian/American comic who was in Source Code. He said he was at a bus stop talking to an Indian Scientist who denied the Moon Landings. Jimmy Carr said, "Yes, but this was a Scientist waiting at a bus stop!"
Ah yes the moon landings, a gift that just keeps on giving. Of course the landings were real! The gentleman that Alan Davies mentioned is amazing, read up on Patrick Moore, a hero in the field of space knowledge, self taught and ending working with NASA, what a guy. Unfortunately we in UK also have knob heads, by the sound of it too many for comfort.
4:40 I love David Mitchell fighting his urge to say "So we're *stupider* than the Americans?"
If your name is Buzz and you landed on the Moon, you’re entitled to punch people.
@@mm9773 Buzz is Lightyears ahead of these tinfoil hatters, he's been to infinity - and beyond.
To conspiracy, and beyond!
Watching from the UK 🇬🇧
QI one of the best BBC programs that the US could NEVER remake 😂
6% of American and 25% of Brits who were asked...it depends where they went to ask. There are some places in Norfolk and Cornwall that are still scared when they see an aircraft in the sky.
And how many were asked? And who paid for the survey - maybe the Daily Mail?
And there are signs which say - "Don't take photographs of the Natives lest they think you are Gods."
But wouldn't it still be more Americans than brits, not believing in the moon landings?
As a Cornishman I have no idea what you are talking about.
I did wonder what the current stats were because this episode must be about 15 years old now. The 25% figure is current for Europe in general, and the US number is rising...
The Van Allen belt is the radiation zone but it was dealt with very easily by flying around the thinner zone. @KingBoomer
Buzz's sister couldn't call him "brother". She'd say "buzzer". Hence the name
That's quite cute, is that really true?
@rlawrence9838 His real name is Eugene Aldrin Jr. QI brought this up in the Combustion episode.
Alan Davies also thinks Ulysses S. Grant's middle name is 'Sausage'. :P
I once had a bit of a 'do' with a guy in a pub about the moon landings. He's obviously been watching dumb You Tube vids about the angles of the shadows and he insisted there must have been two light sources to cause the effect. I asked 'OK, if there were two lights, why wasn't every object casting two shadows?' That made him go quiet.
The problem with people like is they only go quiet for a moment. In my experience, even if you comprehensively knock down one of their arguments they just move on to the next one.
4 shadows
@@peterwhite7252 It's no good Peter, could you explain?
I remember The Moon ladings. I was 15 in 1969 stayed up all night to watch it. Very tense as they landed. The 1st mission they only took a black and white camera. I'm not sure if it was the next mission. But I remember when they took a colour camera. A group of us, went to to mates house who had a colour TV. The astronaut started filming and accidently pointed the camera at the sun. no more colour footage
Yeah, thanks to Alan Bean on Apollo12, which landed very close to Surveyor 3 and brought back parts from it. I was disappointed because I was looking forward to seeing live TV coverage of that.
@@HeeBeeGeeBee392 Thanks for the info. Your memory is a lot better than mine. I thought it was Apollo 12 but I wasn't sure.
You had to stay up to watch the landing at night because it would have been impossible to land on the moon during the day.
@@cb361 Very good. Yes I should have said to watch it on Television
@@cb361 Did they ever visit the dark side
When people say "This photo couldn't possibly have been taken on the moon" ask them "oh, have you been then?"
Nvidia proved the moon footage was real when they showed off their hardware path tracing demo.
I was 18, one of the women at work brought in her portable TV and we all stood around the accounts department avidly watching it. Exciting times watching Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins make history.
Those were definitely people taking the piss out of whoever was taking the survey😂😂
QI is one of my favourite shows, it’s informative as well as funny, and always feel good after watching an episode. Please do more if you can.
Hi from Australia, I have only recently started watching your content and hope you do very well making these videos :)
I've been a member of 6 major opinion poll panels for almost 2 decades. These are the ones they show results from on the news. I must have filled out well over a thousand surveys by now. To the best of my knowledge I've never told the truth in any of them.
We're supposed to believe your comment?
@@ahillmann Well lets see...nope. You're not SUPPOSED to do anything. You can choose. & since I don't know you, have never met you & never will, I really couldn't give a fraction of a fuck what you believe about anything. But thanks for asking. Have a great day.
@@immoralreplicant1332 A prefect response! Sir, I salute you!
We have plenty of our own conspiracy nutters too 😂😂
they put silly conspiracies in to throw shade on the real ones
Most of us will stop conspiring,
When our traitor government stops conspiring against us
🇬🇧 🏴 🏴 🏴 NI 🇬🇧
The phrase "conspiracy theory" was invented by the CIA. They used this term to discredit those who accused them of having involvement in the assassination of JFK.
A few years ago government documents were released proving that the CIA was involved.
Of course people have been to the moon, but that doesn't mean that all conspiracies are untrue.
In fact, the whole term is a gaslight/red herring.
Flat earth eejits are the worst.
Plenty of nutters who blindly believe what they are told to believe too!
It's the Van Halen Belt - a protective belt of HARD ROCK MUSIC surrounding the earth.
QI binges are the best binges, I find.
I’d hope that Brits who say they don’t believe in the moon landings are actually winding up the survey organisers
Of course they were. Over my 82 years, I've lost count of the times I've been stopped by people doing surveys and given them totally nonsense replies.
This is highly likely, from a Brit.
I'm sure of that. Not only Brits, it's the case everywhere, though perhaps more so in the UK. Anyway, it's also why the polls for the US presidential elections almost never accurately reflect the eventual results. So many people deliberately give misleading responses, for whatever reason. You're never going to assemble a group of, say, 100 people where everyone is going to be sincere and honest about a task. We're too unreliable as a species.
As if we'd do any such thing! (Insert expression of surprised innocence here) 😊
Van Allen Belts -:re your space radiation, KB... I think the NASA scientists worked out a route to avoid the heaviest concentrated areas, plus their ships
(the conjoined Mother Ship + the Moon Lander) would have had some form of suitable shielding at the points of most likely contact... Am no expert either, but I seem to recall similar arguements for / against travelling to and from the Moon and those "pesky" 'Van Allen Radiation Belts'!!
The Mitchell and Webb take on this is hilarious
yes, Boomer has to react to that, if hasn't already.
As far as I remember, it's called the Van Allen Belt. I got up at three in the morning to watch the moon landing programme. Used to love The Sky At Night with Patrick Moore.
There was one time that a waterspout hurtled inland through Patrick's garden and wrecked his garden observatory. His response? "Well! . . . I certainly could have done without THAT, I can tell you!"
I just want to say, ignoring the government agency aspect of the space programs, there are people who literally devote their entire lives, and who have devoted their entire lives, to the pursuit of space exploration. Imagine if you devoted your entire life to a pursuit, you reached an unbelievable milestone in it, then half of the world just tells you you made the entire thing up. Can''t really imagine how frustrating that'd be. Like, as a writer, I wouldn't be very happy if I released a high-selling book, then instead of celebrating the achievement with me, everyone around me was like "lol you didn't write that. Someone ghost wrote it for you". That'd be absolutely soul-crushing for me. Just looking at it from an empathetic POV, it's easy to see why people get so angry over this conspiracy.
I can't imagine how anyone could fake NASA: those centres in Houston & the main site, the launch sites, the tv coverage, Challenger (imagine faking that!), all those 50s & early 60s unsuccessful launches that were filmed and seen all round the world. Surely in the last 50+ years, there would have been ONE whistleblower who would have exposed the whole house of cards, if that's what it's been.
The guy Aldrin punched got in his face calling him a liar. It was well earned.
No, he asked Buzz Aldrin to swear on the bible he had walked on the moon. The same individual had asked three other Apollo astronauts the same thing and they all had refused. Instead Aldrin punched him.
I watched a lot of the landings live on TV. There is a Video on YT by an old school film maker who explains that we didn’t have the video recording technology back then to fake hours of live TV.
And you saw it on YT so it must be true. Despite the fact that The Wizard of Oz was produced in the 1930s?
The amount of numpties I’ve had the moon landing conversation with in the UK 🤦🏻♂️
My pal back home is one of them. Nice chap, but a feckin' idiot.
To be fair though, they don't hold a candle to flat earthers when it comes to unbelievable stupidity. Some of their arguments are genuinely laughable.
@ that I 100% agree with 🤣👍
The second law of thermodynamics requires their to be a (barrier) between a pressured system, and a vacuum. Go figure!
@@garysibley4741 I'll have to correct you there. With regards to the Earth, that's the second law of Flermodynamics. Question for flerfs. If the Earth is in a pressurised container (in effect), why do we have an atmospheric pressure gradient.
I've only ever met one Brit who professed to disbelieve the moon landings. In return, I disbelieved him.
Seems fair.
Some idiot in my local pub tried to convince everyone the Earth is flat.
His mobile phone rang and he went outside to shout at it, leaving an unlit cigarette on the bar. I put the heel of my hand on it and squashed it.
When he came back in, he picked it up and looked at it in confusion.
"Cigarettes aren't round Owen, they're flat."
End of discussion.
I’ll tell you who doesn’t believe the moon landing, Roman kemp. He admitted it on tv.
Have you ever visited the space centre just south of Houston? Wifey and me went last year, they take you to the mission control room and replay the moon landing as it was viewed from there, it's really impressive. Though I admit, I got more excited about seeing longhorns in the adjacent field!
Space stations are in space...
I'll never understand why some Americans want to cast doubt against their nation's greatest achievement. One of the world's greatest achievements, if you ask me. I would sort of understand it if some other countries were calling it fake to discredit the US, but not its own people. It obviously happened, and I'm just jealous I wasn't around to see it in 69. I hope to see the first human land on Mars.
To answer your query, I refer you to the recent US election...
@@ElGordo1959 True. People can be fooled to vote against their own interests. And now they're about to reap what they sowed. I can't feel any sympathy for them.
Conspiracy theorists are idiots who like to think they’re smart because they think they’re in on some big secret.
One of the greatest achievements? At the time, the vast majority of American population didn't support the lunar missions (just like Vietnam War), but U.S. gov' had to do it, or else the USSR would, and that would be bad, I guess, for some reason. Even though USSR still won like 9/10 of the space race goals (with the power of not giving a s about the people and what they think).
And also, what did it accomplish, exactly? Other than proving that it's possible? And taking a few super awesome pictures?
The radiation belt issue is called the Van Allen belts. They do have high amount of radiation but two things mitigated the radiation. 1) They travelled very quickly through them. They were never staying in orbit with the belts. The other thing their trajectory to and from the moon went slightly above or below (I can't remember which) the center of the belts. So minimizing the amount of exposure even less.
One of my college tutors said he didn’t believe the Moon landings happened, this is somebody who teaches other people 🥴 he said he believed “America and Russia worked together to fake it” 😂 during the Cold War when both countries were racing to be the first to the Moon, they were working together?? lol I couldn’t contain my laughter but he was deadly serious.
Did he ever explain why they'd bother to do that? I've never heard a good answer to what all that effort was supposed to achieve.
@@chrispalmer7893Firstly look at the flag of the UN, look at it and describe what you see. If you see it, you'll getting closer to why the world's PTB have a reason. Then you can go to question 2. Is it possible theirs something on the other side? Outer lands, or extra territories.
@@chrispalmer7893 No lol that’s the thing with conspiracy theorists, once you press them on their opinions they soon change the subject.
@@garysibley4741 I guess criminals always make that one fatal mistake. The UN's being that they accidentally put the secret to their conspiracy on their flag?
The only way he could explain how the USSR did not immediately call BS if the Americans faked landing on the moon was that they were in a conspiracy together. It is conspiracies all the way down, boys.
Buzz Aldrin didn't punch Bart Sibrel for not believing in the lunar landings, Buzz punched him for calling him a thief, a coward and a liar and for acosting him and scaring his stepdaughter. Sibrel himself was actually lying about his intentions when he ambushed Buzz; he barged into him and his stepdaughter, blocked his path physically and then tried to force him to swear on a Bible about the veracity of the Apollo missions, which is certainly not a nice thing to do. Even in spite of this behaviour, Buzz still asked him to leave him alone before resorting to giving him a smack when Sibrel continued to harass him.
Suggesting that a guy who flew 66 combat missions in F-86 Sabres over Korea, where he shot down at least two MiG-15s, did one of the first spacewalks - on Gemini 12 - and was the lunar module pilot for Apollo 11, is a coward, is of course ludicrous, but more than this, if you watch the footage of the incident and how horrible Sibrel's behaviour is, it tells you all you need to know about Bart Sibrel and why quite frankly, he deserved a smack in the chops.
With regard to the exposure to radiation in the Van Allen Belts. The Apollo craft spent around 50 minutes transiting the weakest part of the Belt, not forgetting that the material the craft was made of, and the instruments lining the inside of the craft provided a great deal of shielding. It is estimated that the Apollo 11 crew received 0.18 rem each on average. A typical CT scan delivers more than this, at about 1 rem, and a fatal dose for a human would have to be 300 rem or more, and this in a very short span of time to be so, if that was spread over weeks or even days, there would be few effects from even that.
Thus the less than 20 percent of just one rem, which the Apollo crews were exposed to, was to all intents and purposes, negligible. That Moon landing deniers bring this up, relying on the idea that most people will simplistically conclude 'radiation exposure = deadly', is typical of the ignorant and disingenous things they say.
Yes, Buzz Aldrin punched a guy called Bart Sibrel.
Sibrel followed him around outside a hotel in Beverley Hills for more than 10 minutes, needling and goading him. The final straw was when Sibrel called Aldrin a coward.
You can call Mr Aldrin many things - a bad car salesman. a Trump supporter (he is, but for reasons of NASA's funding shortfall), but you do not call Mr Aldrin a coward. He is, following the deaths of Collins and Armstrong, maybe the bravest man on the planet.
I named my youtube channel after him - a great, great man.
He's a liar and a fake. Cos we DIDNT land on the moon. The only Buzz I respect had a friend named Woody and risked everything to save his tiny plastic buddies from the evil clutches of ZURG!
I heard that when the guy tried to sue Aldrin for assault, the judge threw it out of court saying that he had it coming for harassing an old man (and national hero).
Sibrel also invited Buzz to talk to school kids across the nation which Buzz Aldrin flew in for. Only for the entire thing to be a hoax to get him to show up so he could haras him. The guy tried to sue but the guys video he submited for evidence showed the guy physically restraining Buzz and assaulting him. Sibrel is lucky Buzz didn't push for false imprisonment and assault charges.
@buzzrighthook. perhaps you should watch the Bart Sibrel documentary "A funny thing happened on the way to the moon" proves we didn't go. Never left low Earth orbit. And on upon returning at the press conference why did the astronauts disagree on whether or not they could see stars from out in space? Armstrong said he was seeing all the stars and then they corrected him in a very nervous way.
@@realsteal317 That documentary proves that some people are genuinely stupid. Which you comment confirms.
So many people stuck in Plato's cave, and don't even look at the shadows form the fire.
Van Allen belt is what you were thinking of.
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I'm a Brit in my mid-40's and I've never met anyone who didn't believe the moon landings 🤷🏾♀️ 25%? Ugh! 🤦🏾♀️ -x-
6% of 335 million Yanks = 20,100,000
25% of 70 million Brits = 17,500,000
Thanks for the math's ... hopefully the actual number would be very much smaller considering the children/adult and or uneducated or mentally ill stats...etc I'd comfortably say it's less than 100,000 or maybe even less than half of that 🤔🤞
Might I add, if you remember the computer graphics used for cutting edge music videos in the early 80's, such as used by Dire Straights, and you understood that that was a good fifteen years after the Moon Landings took place, you would understand that there was absolutely No way possible the footage was capable of being mocked up at that time.
Buzz Aldrin admitted on the Conan show some of the footage was fake.
Because Dire Straits definitely had the same budget as NASA and access to some of the world's most powerful computers.
The Van Allen belt is real, but it simply didn't take that much shielding to negate it.
Not only that, but they traversed the narrowest part.
Really? FROM GAMMA RADIATION? It didn't take that much shielding, huh? I suppose some tin foil was enough? XD
Then you better call Harper Collins and tell them that every single encyclopedia they ever wrote is WRONG. And tell every physicist on the planet that you DONT NEED 12 inches of lead to stop gamma rays.
THe MOON LANDING proved gamma radiation WAS FAKE! Who knew!
1. The time spent in the Van Allen Radiation belts was very short due to the speed of the Apollo craft
2. Most of the radiation was alpha and beta particles, which can be stopped by a sheet of paper.
3. The trip was through the weakest parts of the belts.
There is an excellent explanation about the Van Allen belt that was posted very recently on Dave McKeegan’s channel.
His explanations are always on point.
I read somewhere that when the crew were trying to decide what Armstrong would say when he set foot on the surface Michael Collins dared him to look to one side, shout "OH MY GOD, WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?!" and cut his camera feed.
and which moon are talking about, all QI fans know about that joke.
Phil Jupitus 2 moons?
Cruithne!
The first landing pictures was downloaded by a Telescope at Parkes NSW and sent around the world because they were detectable in the Southern Hemisphere at the hour
There are also conspiracy theories that Australia doesn't exist. I'm pretty sure they're in love with the notion of believing a conspiracy exists.
Van Allen radition belt is also a belt i.e. you can go around it. I believe the capsule skirted the edge of the belt only
Why would it be a belt ? Genuinely curious
@@bloodyliar They discovered the Van Allen Belt circa 1957. All I know is that its shaped like a doughnut. Dont know how or why it forms that way. Probably something to do with radiation from the sun interacting with earths magnetic field
Don’t take any notice King Boomer i enjoy your intros as much as i enjoy your reviews 😊. Hope Queen Boomer is doing good xx
This is an old clip so who knows what it is like now. A Statista Research Department had a poll with 35% of Americans not believing on the Moon landings. A C-SPAN/Ipsos poll put it at 11%. So it goes up and down over time and polling techniques and sample sizes and polling bias all play a part. We are now in an age of politicians and political commentators wanting to embed mistrust of science and data. Anti intellectualism, anti science and anti schooling is growing on both sides of the pond (when America leads, Britain follows) and it will only get worse
The van allen radiation belt is what you are thinking of. They got through it by going through the thinner parts of it, using speed to their advantage to minimise the exposure time and shielding, they also wore dosimeters to measure their personal radiation levels.
Ah, the Van Halen Belts. Fortunately, the space capsule was able to jump over them.
Niiice!
"I guess we're doing back-to-back QI today..!"
*and not a single complaint was heard* 😄
The number is definitely higher than 6% in Canada. The general public here is just as ignorant as the U.S, we are just nicer about it. Some interactions I have had with people in just the last few days:
"Hmm.." (picks up orange popsicle) "What flavour is this?" "Me: ..." "Me: ... I believe that one is ... orange. >_>"
"Gonna be a foggy night tonight, eh?" "Yep. Fucking government. Weather manipulation." "No. no. ...no. impossible." WHY!? How could they spend the 100 quintillion dollars that it would take to develop such technology and the only purpose is to annoy some lady with fog? How are they getting their investment back?! Such a stupid thought. This was the same lady who told me that if Trump didn't win against Biden the first time, the entire internet would go down across the world for 3 weeks. I was trying to explain to her how that is simply impossible but she knows nothing about anything so it was impossible. So he lost, the internet didn't go down and I didn't have the heart to confront her about it lol. She also said the mail-in ballots were rigged for biden, but how does that make sense? Trump was saying the entire mail-in voting system was a scam and that if you were voting for him, to do it in person. So what kinda stupid do you have to be to think the mail-in ballots were going to be for trump? If you were a trump voter who voted by mail-in, you didn't listen to trump at all!! It was all so damned moronic. Yeah we talk about trump here too, our politics are woke on both sides so nothing we can do about it.
What does woke mean?
As Al Murray said about the moon landing " what's the funking point ?
There's no bastard living there " .
Well 51% of Britons think not being in the EU is a good thing!
I live in the EU. And ITS Not a Good thing
nearly 90% believe in con men telling them what they want to hear, politics and religion
I know. They think they've 'taken back control' in a FPP electoral system wth a monarchy, and reduced immigration ! 🤣🤣
Not any more...
Including the remoaners who haven't moved to the EU utopia yet.
The van allen belt is the radiation field you're referring to. A few points about that: 1) It's called a belt because it isn't a sphere around the world, it's more donut shaped around the equator. 2) The ships did have shielding. 3) The amount of time you spend in there matters, it's not instant death 4) they didn't fly through the middle of it where radiation was highest, the flight path went north and skirted the edge. All in all, the radiation dose received was not life threatening.
Ever seen the "minions" movie? It shows them walking past the camera where they're filming it, and the frustrated director yells "CUT!"
Hey, KB. Some other muppet might have already pointed this out, but Mitchell and Webb have a series of sketches about various conspiracy theories. I'm sure you'd enjoy them if you haven't already seen them. Geoff in France. Edit.. there it is, the same suggestion 22 hours before mine. Now I'm the muppet.
I once sat down and figured out the net exposure the astronauts would have undergone while passing through the Van Allen belts. Radiation exposure is a matter of total exposure (half the exposure at twice the duration is about as harmful, for nontrivial doses) and in the Astronauts' case the exposure was relatively brief and not all that high, being in a vacuum and all. I think I figured out that you get more exposure getting an X-ray.
I like the response from The Click: when someone goes "Do you really think the Moon landings were not faked?" the correct response is "HA! You think *the Moon* is REAL???"
Going to need to record a new batch of intros now you're in the new home 😆
As a kid growing up in Australia watching "MrSquggle the man from the Moon" I have an image of an enraged Buzz Aldrin beating him up after he was caught doing graffiti on the lunar module
The radiation you referred to is called (The Van Allen Belt) they passed through it so quickly it was not of significant impotence, and no more dangerous than having about 4 X-rays at hospital/dentist...
Ha ha (snort) love your intro performance. I would have done the same - or worse.
I'm a Brit. I believe in the heroism, bravery and ingenuity of three exemplary human beings, and that they DID land on the moon. May their names be remembered for ever.
Also, I agree with baconhooper about the survey. It depends on the answers the surveyors want as to who gets asked the questions (and the way the questions are formatted. This is true for all surveys).
FYI Find and watch YES PRIME MINISTER episode LEADING QUESTIONS. Sir Humphry will put you staright on surveys.
Love the intros !
The radiation you’re referring to is called the Van Allen Belt. The belt is actually two belts, the inner belt, which has the stronger radiation, and the outer belt. This radiation is indeed dangerous to humans and is very hard to shield against. At the most intense areas of the inner belt, an individual would receive a fatal dose of radiation in about a week. The Apollo missions crossed that region in about 15 minutes, and the less dangerous, outer belt, in about two hours. The radiation exposure on a round trip is less than 1% of a fatal dose, in fact, you are exposed to more radiation from a CT scan, than any of the Apollo missions.
Here’s a quote that sums this conspiracy up nicely:
“The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense.”
The guy who said that is Dr. James Van Allen. Yes, the same man who discovered the belts and of whom they are named. If anyone would know, it would be him.
My old primary school here in North Wales has some NASA plaques given to it back in the 70s by a NASA engineer, a former pupil, who was a part of the Mercury and Apollo programmes.
The people doing the survey clearly are not tuned in to British sense of irony.😂
The Van Allen belt has radiation comparable to the poles. IE perfectly survivable. Yet another great hosting by Steven Fry! The man has gravitas.
You should try to get clips of David Mitchell versus Bob Mortimer on ‘Would I lie to you’. There are several, get them in date order if possible as Mitchell gets more and more frustrated!
The Van Allen Belts - they do pass through them but take precautions, like passing through the thinnest part.
Soup Dragon is a character in The Clangers kids cartoon TV series.
7 59 you thinking of the van allen belt? There are numerous belts and the russians had cosmonaut's dying trying to do this
A lot of conspiracy theories about the moon landings didn’t start until a certain film, Capricorn One was released. Damn you Peter Hyams!
The best QI Clio is David Mitchell talking about giant tortoises and how it took so long to give them a scientific name.
Thing about the radiation in the Van Allen Belt is that NASA had a lot of very smart people working there. Remember all the missions that happened before Apollo and then even Apollo had several building up to actually going to the Moon and then even before actually landing there.
They calculated the radiation exposure. They crafted the spacecraft, suits and other equipment accordingly. In fact the greater worry was exposure on the moon itself. Outside of Earths magnetic field and outside the shielding a spacecraft can provide.
Thus the people who went to the Moon actually got significantly higher exposure than the person who stayed in orbit for each mission. But neither of the Astronauts got exposed to a truly dangerous degree (though a medical professional might still argue it was still a worrying degree given the time frame).
In the end the Moon landings remain a great achievement of great diligence, intelligence as well as a good amount of dare do.
While working as a teacher in a UK prison I had a conversation with a young man who said that the moon landing was fake.
I asked him “What about the other moon landings?” He was totally taken aback. He thought it was just the one.
I continued about moon buggies they drove around and the Russians’ Lunarkhod.
“For goodness sake!” I said, “There’s practically a used car lot up there!”
He slunk away in confusion.
You never said that, you just thought about it later.
There's a lot to say about this one. Corridor Crew pointed out as film makers that the amazing footage would have been extremely difficult to reproduce with the special effects of the day. As good as 2001 looks, it doesn't look as good as the real thing.
Images that appear to be fake footage from the time were actually dramatized documentary style reporting on the moon missions, that no-one at the time claimed to be real, it was a simulation before computer sims were available, made to give viewers quality color images of what a moon landing would look like.
One of the biggest culprits in spreading modern lunacy is a mockumentary called "Dark Side of the Moon", 2002 that was actually mocking the fake moon landing believers. The makers premise was to show how film could be manipulated to manipulate an audience.
The makers inserted many clues in it to show it as fake, unfortunately the presentation was so convincing that most people who saw it believed it. The clues included the fake experts shown had names of famous characters of fiction.
The real government officials who appear to be admitting to fraud were being asked questions that were completely unrelated to the moon landings and the questions were edited out and the answers edited down.
To this day, even people I know, tell me the truth about the moon was revealed in that "documentary".
Definitely in for a Qi binge!
A guy I love listening to is Brian cox he is the David Attenborough of space
Pmsl 😂 great intro boomer ❤.
It's very worth following up with the Mitchell & Webb conspiracy theories sketches
Astronauts are well protected from the effects of the Van Allen belt, which you have to get through to get into space.