Why Every Punk Band Loves Octave Riffs

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  • Опубліковано 29 жов 2022
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  • @SugarpillProd
    @SugarpillProd  Рік тому +2

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  • @Thirteen31Music
    @Thirteen31Music Рік тому +54

    Nofx are the masters of this. Linoleum is a perfect case study

    • @bigbirdmusic8199
      @bigbirdmusic8199 Рік тому +1

      Old offspring as well

    • @thewaywelive2775
      @thewaywelive2775 Рік тому +2

      Millencolin, Lagwagon, no fun at all I think most of the 90's skatepunk bands flirtet with this really

    • @guilherme-guedes
      @guilherme-guedes Рік тому

      Blink as well... Not now, i miss you, feeling this, every time i look for you, and many bridges... Like in First date...

  • @inappropriatecontent2589
    @inappropriatecontent2589 Рік тому +6

    I love how you show us WHY we love a certain style of music!

  • @PunkMarioBros
    @PunkMarioBros 9 місяців тому +1

    I love when bands use octave riffs, my favourite is probably the chorus to Welcome to the Black Parade as it is almost the same notes as the vocal melody

  • @MahoroAndou
    @MahoroAndou Рік тому +34

    The Japanese band Asian Kung Fu Generation uses these a lot too. Absolutely love it.

    • @sound-sakura
      @sound-sakura Рік тому

      Their song Rewrite used in Fullmetal Alchemist 2003 (which I think is awesome, frankly) comes to mind for me.

    • @phewiss3066
      @phewiss3066 Рік тому

      thats one hell of a band name lol

  • @SNCKPCK
    @SNCKPCK Рік тому

    actually really cool: ) thank you for teaching!

  • @Marknumskull
    @Marknumskull Рік тому +7

    I love a good octave chord, I use them everywhere!

  • @rafaelericson
    @rafaelericson Рік тому

    bruv! thanks for this vid, so simple yet so powerful !!

  • @mdkotler
    @mdkotler 8 місяців тому

    Love that you used Choking Victim for an example.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  8 місяців тому

      They're one of my favourites for sure!

  • @justinx590
    @justinx590 Рік тому +1

    So many of the songs I write have these chords in them and I never knew that they were called octave chords. Neat.

  • @creamyanddreamy4017
    @creamyanddreamy4017 Рік тому +3

    My favorite use of octave chords is in "Demon of the Fall" by Opeth.

  • @johnmarston4315
    @johnmarston4315 Рік тому +2

    On the more metal slide slipknot likes to use a lot of octave riffs especially in their earlier years

  • @Washu1337
    @Washu1337 Рік тому +8

    I still remember the first time me and my friend played ‘Duckpond’ on two guitars, usually I would only play on my own with just the rhythm. It blew our fucking minds.

  • @ashsimpson8700
    @ashsimpson8700 Місяць тому

    Neck deep uses these for leads often. Can make some cool counter melodies

  • @harrisontownsend910
    @harrisontownsend910 Рік тому +5

    Thank you on the tips. I already knew how to play octaves but I didn't know how to use them, so thank you.

  • @Breadrc
    @Breadrc Рік тому +1

    I fkn love octave riffs!

  • @jonathangodbout9778
    @jonathangodbout9778 Рік тому +2

    Ah, I somehow did not know they had a name. An octave with a bass progression is my definition of pop punk rock vibe.

  • @Pointblankmos
    @Pointblankmos Рік тому +2

    underrated channel

  • @fleetingchaos
    @fleetingchaos Рік тому +2

    I love octave riffs!

  • @macblink
    @macblink 6 місяців тому

    Been using that dual-cord sound for many years.. never knew how was it called 😅

  • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
    @skaldlouiscyphre2453 Рік тому +5

    A trick I figured out ages ago, split your chords between two guitars.

    • @allyemeraart
      @allyemeraart Рік тому +2

      one guitarist plays 5ths, one guitar plays 3rds and 4ths and BOOM you literally sound so much cooler than power chords.

  • @denioktora
    @denioktora Рік тому +1

    Tom Delonge applied this Alien Exist and Please Take Me Home on blink record.

  • @beanlegume9965
    @beanlegume9965 Рік тому +1

    My favorite example would be Falling Apart by Lagwagon

  • @kilercrab3213
    @kilercrab3213 Рік тому +1

    I'm a simple man, I hear no use for a name, I like it

  • @allyemeraart
    @allyemeraart Рік тому

    a 5th is a perfect interval and can be used freely, an octave is even FREE-ER as it is basically a single note, an extremely transparent interval. it just makes sense that it'd be used because it so seemlessly goes over any chord because it's literally the least dense chord ever.

  • @pauldebbarma5920
    @pauldebbarma5920 Рік тому +9

    Octaves are a must-be in pop punks. I'm not okayyyyyyyyyyyyyy

    • @AnotherAzh
      @AnotherAzh Рік тому +1

      you wear me oooouuuuuuut

  • @Hellofreak
    @Hellofreak Рік тому

    love the Shai Hulud intro!!!!!

  • @MusclesHockeymask
    @MusclesHockeymask Рік тому

    I love the tune for that one song by that one vegan punk band but I actually think it's too fast. It could be slowed down to be heavier and personally I'd take the octave chords out entirely. I re-wrote it to have the first three chords, the last one with augmented suspensions, then for the descending final chords I have probably the first chord and then end with a bunch of notes until it resolves on F. You can probably guess the notes I play but I have to figure out the right speed to play it so that it's heavy enough.

  • @actuallynotsteve
    @actuallynotsteve Рік тому

    Shhh you're giving away all the secrets

  • @mattfritz8806
    @mattfritz8806 Рік тому +3

    Do you have any videos about tracking acoustic guitars?

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Рік тому +2

      I've made one that will be uploaded soon. What exactly did you want to know about tracking them?

    • @mattfritz8806
      @mattfritz8806 Рік тому

      @@SugarpillProd I guess everything! How to get a fatter sound from them. Vocals too:D

  • @aidanwilliams1374
    @aidanwilliams1374 10 місяців тому

    Does anyone know the name of that no use for a name song from the live video PLEASE lol.

  • @captain_efurd4502
    @captain_efurd4502 Рік тому +2

    The Smashing Pumpkins also use these quite a bit

  • @dudebro7698
    @dudebro7698 Рік тому

    Sounds like some kid got into my cd collection again

  • @diegods9897
    @diegods9897 Рік тому

    I can't understand clearly, for example in Chasing rainbows, the chords are played on the same frets. Could you explain me? Thanks for your channel and what you do!!

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Рік тому +1

      In Chasing Rainbows, they're playing two different octaves parts at the start. The left guitar is just playing octaves of each root note, and the right guitar alternates between octaves for the 3rd & 5th of those same root notes.
      For instance, when the left guitar plays a C octave, the right guitar plays an E octave, which is the 3rd of the C.
      Hope that helps!

  • @Kyrelel
    @Kyrelel Рік тому

    Jazz slowly opens one eye ... and closes it again

  • @nothingtoseehere9515
    @nothingtoseehere9515 Рік тому +1

    What's the name of the song at 0:50?

  • @fernandoy.narciso
    @fernandoy.narciso Рік тому

    you should make a chords variation bible for us

  • @DannyDeVitois79
    @DannyDeVitois79 Рік тому

    Fermented and Flailing

  • @IceBreakBottle
    @IceBreakBottle Рік тому

    You should put a seymour duncan invader humbucker in that tele for the neck pickup ;)

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Рік тому +1

      I think that might be a bit overkill, haha.

    • @IceBreakBottle
      @IceBreakBottle Рік тому

      @@SugarpillProd Not at all.. you would get a better "pop-punk" tone. Or at least mod it to a four switch so you can use your pickups in series mode.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Рік тому +1

      @@IceBreakBottle Yeah, maybe. I don't really like the sound of invaders, regardless.

  • @theinterpersonalskillscoac6032

    Let’s not forget ‘Smile’ by Bigwig

  • @Typical.Anomaly
    @Typical.Anomaly Рік тому

    Guitar World magazine... 1996 maybe? The guitar solo on "My Friends" by RHCP was the first time I met "octave chords" and have been a huge fan since. The omission of the fifth makes it so when you get to the diminished chord (the bVII* in major or the II* in minor) it still fits in a diatonic progression. Love to use split chords too- ex.: C#m7 = X4X45X -because they still have the third and the seventh while being easier to move around the fretboard. ✌💗🤘

  • @incelthirdworld9858
    @incelthirdworld9858 Рік тому

    the best octave playing i head was by WES MONTGOMERY

  • @ANDYWOUNDSABRXS
    @ANDYWOUNDSABRXS Рік тому

    Swedish death metal, D-Beat, pretty much anything with melody uses them.

  • @simonmarcoux5879
    @simonmarcoux5879 Рік тому

    someone know what is the song from NUFAN?

  • @mtveltri
    @mtveltri Рік тому

    What's the first song you play in the video? I'm drawing a blank on the name right now

    • @mtveltri
      @mtveltri Рік тому

      It's Rise Against - Savior, just remembered

  • @HD_Heresy
    @HD_Heresy Рік тому

    I saw NUFAN 6 months before Tony died 🥺

  • @kintaro_f
    @kintaro_f Рік тому

    possessions never meant anything to me, I'm not crazy. :)
    it's the muted string in the middle that leaves room for the pain. ;)

  • @flibbidyx2
    @flibbidyx2 Рік тому

    RIP Tony Sly

  • @Walrus286
    @Walrus286 Рік тому

    Built to Spill - end of the song Else

  • @SoilentGr33n
    @SoilentGr33n Рік тому

    Oh yeah that's what those are called. I use those all the time with stupidly ridiculous fuzz when I doom too.

  • @atvena
    @atvena Рік тому

    Lit - my own worst enemy

  • @Ottophil
    @Ottophil Рік тому

    I like how you hide the guitar brand in shame

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Рік тому +1

      As if I'd even care about guitar brands 😂

  • @anandarazzaqy
    @anandarazzaqy Рік тому

    How to make song like better luck next time, or maybe a synth pop punk video

  • @CsRj2854
    @CsRj2854 10 місяців тому

    what's the song playing at 0:50

  • @David_Downs
    @David_Downs Рік тому

    I would call this a Dyad, and not a chord :P

  • @kcChicken123
    @kcChicken123 Рік тому +1

    Dave Navarro uses this in the solo in My Friends by RHCP

  • @JohnSmith-kt3yy
    @JohnSmith-kt3yy Рік тому +1

    What are the songs at the beginning? They sound so familiar.

  • @DutchChattahoochee
    @DutchChattahoochee Рік тому

    was that a choking victim riff you threw in there? sounded like 500 channels. haha

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Рік тому +1

      Good ear 👍

    • @DutchChattahoochee
      @DutchChattahoochee Рік тому

      @@SugarpillProd thanks! yes, a fan of that band and that song in particular. like many people, I've listened to it a million times. lol like, IT SOUNDS FAMILIAR! lol great video!

  • @peterpants9783
    @peterpants9783 Рік тому

    Stevie Ray Vaughn loves this trick he’s blues

  • @cygnustsp
    @cygnustsp Рік тому

    Billy Corgan / Jimi Hendrix

  • @mastod0n1
    @mastod0n1 Рік тому +26

    Stop giving away all these secrets! Lol. I literally just wrote a song last night that has a prominent octave chord lead. My music would be slightly less impressive to people if they knew how easy it is to get the sound I do. At the same time I'd love to hear the results of people taking your tips and writing original music.

    • @kutsumiru
      @kutsumiru Рік тому +5

      I hate to tell you friend octave chords are no secret

    • @mastod0n1
      @mastod0n1 Рік тому

      @@kutsumiru I know but a lot of people that I know don't know. Most of the songs I write are good but not anything special. But the mixing and layering tricks that Sugarpill shows off are the things that make people think my songs sound "professional."

    • @David_Downs
      @David_Downs Рік тому

      @@mastod0n1 fascinating.

    • @grantsch1861
      @grantsch1861 Рік тому

      @@mastod0n1 riiight

  • @LordHaliax
    @LordHaliax Рік тому

    because

  • @kcChicken123
    @kcChicken123 Рік тому

    How good is Millencolin

  • @melrandall2286
    @melrandall2286 Рік тому +1

    But where did it all start ?
    In rock music it was Hendrix with ‘Third Rock from the Sun’ . Then Brian Baker brought it to hardcore punk with Dag Nasty in the late 80s… listen to ‘Values Here’ and most songs off ‘can I say’ . This is where pop punk got their sound.

  • @steves1588
    @steves1588 Рік тому +1

    clique riff...find your own sound....unless you like sounding like top 40..ooops
    I meant hardcore punk.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Рік тому

      Yeah because top 40 is full of this type of sound 😂

  • @BrickUnit
    @BrickUnit Рік тому

    First song that came to mind was sum 41s walking disaster

  • @emeraldcelestial1058
    @emeraldcelestial1058 Рік тому

    because its easy to do

  • @andyj8814
    @andyj8814 Рік тому

    Can you help with don't call me white riff?

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Рік тому

      What bit are you struggling with?

    • @andyj8814
      @andyj8814 Рік тому

      @@SugarpillProd the other guitar part if that makes sense, can't find the chords just doesn't sound right

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Рік тому +1

      @@andyj8814 I haven't played it in awhile, but I believe it's mostly power chords, and then the little riffy bit is just using a mix of 5ths, accidentals and 6ths.
      I think that riffy bit is an B/D#, E5, B/D#, to a F#6.
      As long as you've got those down, and the strumming pattern - which is the usual skate punk pattern, just with a bunch of stops & starts - then it shouldn't be too tricky to learn.

    • @andyj8814
      @andyj8814 Рік тому

      @@SugarpillProd thanks mate

  • @whome77
    @whome77 Рік тому

    500 Channels

  • @cbtrippin
    @cbtrippin Рік тому

    blink-182 was good with this

  • @urpaps
    @urpaps Рік тому

    I need a fuxkin electric I am bored of acoustic now

  • @brycesipes
    @brycesipes Рік тому +3

    500 channels 👻

  • @yurigoncalves9861
    @yurigoncalves9861 Рік тому

    Dead Fish

  • @cabeloDoPardal2
    @cabeloDoPardal2 Рік тому

    Tom Petty - American girl (that at its best)

  • @betosxe138
    @betosxe138 Рік тому

    Chocking victim riff

  • @thomasj.9686
    @thomasj.9686 Рік тому +3

    I miss the times when Tom actually wrote riffs and didn't rely heavily on octave riffs for guitar "parts". Dude can't even be bothered to move the chord around in some songs.

    • @gabriellevesque-lessard5052
      @gabriellevesque-lessard5052 Рік тому +1

      We are far far far away from the Buddha/Cheshire cat era ☹️☹️

    • @thomasj.9686
      @thomasj.9686 Рік тому +1

      @@gabriellevesque-lessard5052 he doesn't even have to go back to that. I'd be happy enough if he didn't sit on A5 for a whole verse while Mark's bass and the synth pads dictated the chord changes.

    • @gabriellevesque-lessard5052
      @gabriellevesque-lessard5052 Рік тому +1

      @@thomasj.9686 Yup he over use the A5 lol... mark too

    • @gabriellevesque-lessard5052
      @gabriellevesque-lessard5052 Рік тому +1

      @@thomasj.9686 The Buddha era was great for outstanding guitar riffs!!!

    • @danoliver3053
      @danoliver3053 Рік тому

      These comments are so cringe. I used to love earlier Blink albums and can still appreciate them, but the first couple of albums are in no way their peak (as with most bands), and there's plenty of skilled and creative guitar playing in later albums all the way up TOYPAJ album. Also, Tom has used octaves in his playing throughout the whole of Blink's discography, so I don't know what you're all complaining about.

  • @gregmartin1757
    @gregmartin1757 Рік тому

    Punk guitar is kinda a misnomer since hardly anyone in punk bands can actually play guitar. it's all ridiculously inept amatuer beginning lever playing. And i don't think these are actually chords since they are simply 1 note + octave. You need more than 1 note to form a chord. These are simply octaves.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Рік тому

      You obviously haven't heard many punk bands, if you think everything is simple. Try learning some Strung Out or Propagandhi, and you'll see this isn't the case.

  • @k.d2430
    @k.d2430 Рік тому +3

    This primary school knowledge.

  • @robomalo
    @robomalo Рік тому +1

    Technically, octaves aren’t chords :) Just octaves.

  • @thomasdupont7186
    @thomasdupont7186 Рік тому

    that's not punk, this is like more subgenera like emo, melodic hardcore etc...

  • @wafflemanofficial3130
    @wafflemanofficial3130 Рік тому

    Nu metal in a nutshell

  • @marcopelaezfernandez4573
    @marcopelaezfernandez4573 Рік тому

    And the most important fact , its easy and they cant play that much...

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Рік тому

      More like a misconception, rather than a fact.

    • @neptvnebeatschannel
      @neptvnebeatschannel Рік тому

      @@SugarpillProd it feels like all your videos are the same, and you release them with different clickbaity names/thumbnails. Same topics, over and over.
      It’s a shame considering the quality of your gear, skills and knowledge. I unsubscribed.

    • @SugarpillProd
      @SugarpillProd  Рік тому

      @@neptvnebeatschannel You'll be sorely missed.

    • @neptvnebeatschannel
      @neptvnebeatschannel Рік тому

      @@SugarpillProd and you’ll be sorry when your views drop.
      I love your sarcastic reply. An immature defense mechanism that confirms your feelings got hurt. 😂 Come on man, how old are you

  • @itsdoomedjack9774
    @itsdoomedjack9774 Рік тому +1

    Boring

  • @kenopsia9013
    @kenopsia9013 Рік тому

    it’s such a generic sound, how to make a punk song sound like pop

  • @chaosclg
    @chaosclg Рік тому

    the real reason is because 99% of punk band members don't practise and they don't know any theory lol so octaving is an easy harmony

  • @hadrosaurus
    @hadrosaurus Рік тому

    i just hear awful pop punk

  • @mr.smithgnrsmith7808
    @mr.smithgnrsmith7808 Рік тому

    Well when you can’t play guitar for shit….

  • @VVVY777
    @VVVY777 Рік тому +1

    Super easy, sounds thick. The problem is it's super cliche' and boring now. Time to move on and learn new things.

  • @rocker4life318
    @rocker4life318 Рік тому

    Nofx sucks