Five tips to make your life easier playing AoE4 (and any other RTS)
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- Опубліковано 30 кві 2023
- In this video I'll explain five tips or good habits that anyone trying to become the best AoE4 player they can be should implement sooner rather than later in their game:
1- Proper use of control groups
2- Proper use of camera locations
3- Shift Key
4- Idle Military Key
5- Placement of hotkeys according to use
Feel free to ask any specific questions in the comments!
Shout-out to IWPatrick for doing the video thumbnail! - Ігри
Awesome tips!
Ya puedes saber por qué te ganaba en ocasiones xD
I knew about the other ones but using the patrol function plus idle military key instead of select all military to leave out some units away from the frontline never even crossed my mind.
I had this exact issue where I was making units on the edges of the map in Altaí to protect my flanks but I kept selecting those units by mistake and sending them to fight, so It just became a less efficient way of producing units in the end.
I'll make sure to use this trick!
Really liked the tip with idle military+ patrol, thanks for the video!
Thanks man, this game can get me a bit overwhelmed so even the most basic tips from players like you keep me motivted.
Hey Lucifron, thanks for those tips. I really like your streams and content a lot, looking forward for more.
The video I was looking for! seriously, gracias Luci for this.
I never knew how pro players changed cameras back and forward so quickly - always thought it was control groups, didn't know about saving camera position!
Thanks for making these videos. Very helpful.
Really appreciate this upload. Keep them comming mate ❤🎉
Very helpful video. Thank you!
Nice video! Hope you do more in the future 👍
Awesome video. Information from professional players like this is really useful for people trying to get better on ladder.
Like your content a lot. Keep it coming!
Keep up with this! I think you can get a big following with this kind of content
Gracias por el vídeo Luci!
Fantastic tips bro, thank you!!!
Great content!!!! Keep going with the videos!
Great video, thanks Lucifron !
Omg, I didn't know you are making UA-cam videos. Excited!
Great content man thanks
Amazing content, Keep going!
Great tips for new players! I already made some changes to my hotkeys.
Thanks. Very helpful. Now I understand the patrolling the units part. Mostly I forget to use Camera locations. Or my control groups end up messy with mixed units.
low gold teir player here, you just solved one of my biggest flaws with my gaming with the patroling mechnics you have no idea how many games ive thrown using the select all military key thank you
Thanks Lucifron for the video!
The last ones are great guide.
I didn't know about the idle military key hehe. I just checked the rally pts if there were units nearby.
I hope you can also make vids about the campaign (only if have time hehe), for casual players like us.
Nice vid, gonna check the others. 💪🍻
Muy buen vídeo que realmente se centra en mecánicas que pueden marcar la diferencia a la hora de hacerlas rutinas y optimizar tu juego. Lo de la cámara casi que ni sabía que existía y le tengo jugadas más de 600 horas.
Great tips, thank you.
great video! cheers xx
Recquest from me
1. Can you upload your play every day.
2. I like 2 vs 2 , 3 vs 3 , ( sometine again bronze or the other, just for fun)
3. While playing you explain your strategy.
That for your future content, thank you.
Never knew about the camera hotkey. Huge
I use ctrl + B for all barracks, ctrl + z for stables, ctrl + x for archery ranges
thanks for the tips
I always use Control + Location for Boar against RUs, but I should apply it more, It can have multiple uses. Sometimes i F1 the enemy base, F2 most important resource, F3 least second resource or key location/etc
muy buenos tips!
thanks Pedro :)
thankyou!
Camera tip. Didn't know you could do that. I will try
very usefull tips even in a low league
Very good tips , could you do a test about what if the unit are on the walls will they take less damage or are the upgrade in the blacksmith worth it or just making a unit compression in one one .
I have H as my home towncenter, so raids at the beginning are not a big problem for me but I always lose to latgame raids. I will try the saving camera locations for that. Thanks.
I never understood how people picked up relics so fast. The save camera makes a lot of sense now!
Thank you for the tips! You said that you try to keep you military control groups to only 1-3; any advice on how you set that up when you have an army with many different units types? (Say you have infantry, ranged, cavalry, different siege units, etc.)
I have cavalry in 1, ranged units in 2 and melee infantry in 3. Once the siege deathball gets going I group both cavalry and melee infantry in 1 and use 3 for siege, although it's very rare that I'm still playing cavalry by the time I go heavy into siege.
Ideally you use 4 CTRL groups, so you can always split them into cavalry/range/melee/siege in a fix way.
Idle tc!! 👀
Three more TCs!
Very useful, thanks. Do you have any tipps on how to bind your mouse buttons? For example, I have the follow binds (don't know the exact names by heart):
- mousewheel: last attack signal
- mouse button 4: select all idle vills
- mouse button 5: return to work (after shelter)
so that I can quickly push these without using a key on the keyboard. Does that make sense in your eyes, or do do I give up a better usage of the mouse buttons? How are your mouse button binds (I hope I don't ask for internal company secrets😂)? Thanks a lot in advance
If you get used to that, I think it's fine. There are world class players in multiple RTS that use mouse buttons for these things (Moon from WC3, for instance)
didnt know he got a youtube channel, even the channel profile pic is so professional
lmao u got proper pic now
Thanks for the tips! When using army hotkeys, 123-- which fingers do you use to press the number key?
I use the ring finger for 1, middle finger for 2 and the index for 3.
I think that f1 Will bring up all your military buildings or some one of The f1-f>
Top 3 player in the world, consistently.
I usually use the "select all barracks" and "select all archery ranges" hotkeys. I realize pros don't do that and instead use control groups. But are the "select all barracks" hotkeys really that bad? I know there can be some cases where you don't want to use certain barracks because they are too far away, but I feel like that's a very rare case and can only happen in the late game.
I'm not too against those hotkeys. In addition to the issue you mention, it's also not too rare that sometimes your production won't be safe from every single building. By using CTRL groups you can easily unbind the unsafe buildings from your CTRL group to make sure you are not constantly producing units that are immediately getting killed, whereas with the "Select all X" keys you can't. Using CTRL groups gives you more flexibility, therefore I'd suggest this method.
The select all X keys have the obvious benefit of not having to constantly add buildings to CTRL groups, and in most scenarios you will be fine using them.
The tips are good. But I cannot understand from the video how you can assigning control group so fast and how is the best way to segregate the military units by type and quickly assign a number to them. 😅
Thanks for the video. I like to build a habbit of using control groups more for my units (I already do for my buildings). It's usually all good when I assign control groups at the start of a fight but I have a hard time adding newly produced units to it and at some point, most of the units from the control group will have died already and all the newly built units are just running around headless. How do you constantly keep adding units to the control groups? I saw that you box-selected the horseman and added it, but for the archers, it seems like you CTRL+click your archers, which will also add new archers and then add them all to the control group. Any preference or other tricks? Especially with larger armees and chaos, I just cannot find the new units quickly enough to add them to the existing control groups. Any tips are much appreciated and thanks for the video. I also like you stream.
It can be hard to keep your control groups updated at all times. I'll explain what I usually do with an example. Lets assume I have my archers in control 2, and want to add new ones:
Press 2.
CTRL+SHIFT+CLICK in the new group of archers (so that they all get selected in addition to the previous ones).
Press CTRL+2 with the new selection, so all archers are grouped.
There's an alternative that some players use, where you use the "Select All Military" key and then CTRL+CLICK in an specific type of unit to reassign the group, but I don't use it myself and in general wouldn't recommend using that key.
Unless you've changed your keybindings, SHIFT+Number adds units to a certain group.
For example, if you create Group #1, with 3 archers.
When new archers are created select them and press SHIFT+1, this would add them to the already existing group (or create the group if it doesn't exist
@@LucifroN7 SHIFT + Number adds units to an existing group (or creates a group if it doesn't exist)
@@peblazquez This is actually really good advice, gets the same done but quicker!
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El vídeo está increíble super útil. Una cosa que no he visto. Como seleccionar todas las unidades de un mismo tipo y meterlas en el control group que quieras? Hay algun dhortcut a parte de arrastrar y seleccionar desde el tab menu?
SI te refieres a seleccionar todas las unidades de un mismo tipo no me suena que haya nigún shortcut. Lo que sí que puedes hacer es cuando has seleccionado un grupo de control es mantener el shift e ir seleccionando a las unidades que quieres añadir a ese grupo de control, y añadir de nuevo ese grupo de control, de tal forma que tienes por ejemplo 5 arqueros seleccionados al grupo de control 2, al hacer otro arquero pulsas el 2, tienes seleccionado los 5 arqueros, pulsas shift y seleccionas el nuevo arquero creado, teniendo 6 arqueros en el grupo de seleccion actual, haciendo ctrl+2 vuelves a reasignar este grupo de control con los 6 arqueros, y así con todo.
La respuesta que te da Jaime me parece perfecta, hago exactamente lo que él te ha comentado.
La única alternativa que ni uso ni recomiendo, pero que otros jugadores profesionales sí usan, es utilizar la tecla de "Seleccionar todo el ejército" única y exclusivamente para rehacer tus grupos de control. Presionas la tecla, haces CTRL+Click en el tipo de unidad que quieras seleccionar (Por ejemplo, todos los caballeros), y reasignas el control.
¿Cómo gestionas los aldeanos inactivos? Gracias por los consejos. El de la ubicación en un control de la cámara no me parecía interesante hasta escuchar tu explicación .(en mi caso leer el traductor de google pq no entiendo inglés xD)
La tecla de aldeanos inactivos la tengo en el F1, me parece muy importante. No la he cubierto en el vídeo porque creo que más o menos todo el mundo la utiliza ya, aunque quizá debería haber hecho una mención.
Cualquier cosa que no quede clara por el idioma me comentas!
Do you recommend certain mouse or keyboard for RTS?
Nothing too specific. I've noticed a lot of RTS progamers (especially StarCraft 2 progamers) have been switching to wireless mouse due to it giving you absolute freedom in terms of how you move, I'm planning on trying that soon. For the keyboard I think any mechanical keyboard will do.
Lucifron one video isn't enough we are greedy we demand more
Okay I'll upload the next one in couple hours then
@@LucifroN7 💓💓💓
why not use the fixed control groups for archery/barracks/etc? (e.g.: you can just configure it that ctrl + B always selects all barracks)
it's not too rare that sometimes your production won't be safe from every single building. By using CTRL groups you can easily unbind the unsafe buildings from your CTRL group to make sure you are not constantly producing units that are immediately getting killed, whereas with the "Select all X" keys you can't. Using CTRL groups gives you more flexibility, therefore I'd suggest this method. However, the select all X keys have the obvious benefit of not having to constantly add buildings to CTRL groups, and in most scenarios you will be fine using them.
oh that's a great point, thanks for the rationale : )
Is there some sort of setting that lets you shift attack deer without AoE4 spasming out? When I do it, the game makes some sort of sound repeatedly.
Hmm not too sure, never had this issue
@@LucifroN7 I experimented today and found out that I can avoid the issue by just holding shift + right clicking each deer. What I was previously doing was A-clicking a deer, holding shift down, holding A down and the left clicking each deer. AoE4 doesn't seem to like that. I'm used to the latter since that's what I always did in SC2 and feels less risky cause if you misclick on the deer and right click the ground instead, you queued a move command instead of an attack command.
@@Nil-js4bf Just tested a bit and I see what you mean now. If instead of holding A you just press it once every time you want to queue an additional attack command it shouldn't happen. In this scenario I think using right-click is better, since I prefer my scouts moving a bit more than they should over them attacking a wolf or a random enemy unit when I want them to take the deer.
For fights I use right-click too because I find it much faster to just spam right clicks, but one has to be careful about units moving forward in case a missclick happens
@@LucifroN7 Thanks for the detailed reply Lucifron. Someone told me that I can actually just press A once after holding down shift and that works too. I might try that but I'll need to unlearn my habit of holding down A. Or maybe I'll just try right clicking now cause it is easier to do.