The VERY Messed Up Origins™ of Donkey Skin | Folklore Explained - Jon Solo

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  • @jennysomething3666
    @jennysomething3666 3 роки тому +1056

    The princes being depressed after seeing a pretty girl is a mood

    • @RedRoseSeptember22
      @RedRoseSeptember22 3 роки тому +71

      They weren't depressed because of their beauty, they were depressed because they thought they'd never see them again.

    • @sarahbellee.bradburn8760
      @sarahbellee.bradburn8760 3 роки тому +48

      @@RedRoseSeptember22 understood, but to be fair, I get depressed looking at pretty girls too.

    • @jeshuajacob5890
      @jeshuajacob5890 3 роки тому +16

      @@sarahbellee.bradburn8760 that's a you problem mate

    • @thiccmufffubberara-ara9834
      @thiccmufffubberara-ara9834 2 роки тому +4

      @@velocityraptor9270 maybe insecurity...?

    • @WhitneyDahlin
      @WhitneyDahlin 2 роки тому +14

      @@RedRoseSeptember22 I respectfully disagree. They were depressed because they could never have her. They were princes they could have any woman but the only woman they really wanted to marry was one they couldn't have. I think that's why that one guy mentioned in this comment section he gets depressed looking at pretty girls too because he knows he can never have them.

  • @saragirl1465
    @saragirl1465 3 роки тому +185

    Honestly, the moral I was getting was, you gotta do what you gotta do to save yourself because no one else will.

    • @LuznoLindo
      @LuznoLindo 9 місяців тому +4

      It seems that way considering not even the fairy godmother in the primary version does practically nothing to help Donkeyskin.

    • @tiffanymichaels2429
      @tiffanymichaels2429 4 місяці тому +3

      And also doing what you need to do and sacrificing a prominent and prosperous life isn't always easy but it pays off in the end.

  • @ABCD-rm5vo
    @ABCD-rm5vo 3 роки тому +490

    13:39 - "I'm pretty sure we just discovered the messed up origins of furries."
    *Zeus has entered the chat*

    • @kibasorata5680
      @kibasorata5680 3 роки тому +23

      Insert *And Along Came Zeus* meme

    • @Shadowstar_Art
      @Shadowstar_Art 3 роки тому +3

      Furries are around because of anime

    • @Katsi7
      @Katsi7 3 роки тому +13

      @@Shadowstar_Art not really

    • @gonernotloner
      @gonernotloner 3 роки тому +7

      *women left the chat*

    • @victorious.y5887
      @victorious.y5887 2 роки тому +9

      To be honest when he said that it,kinda hurt.

  • @taekwongurl
    @taekwongurl 3 роки тому +255

    "This last story is the most messed up one of the bunch." WHAT DO YOU MEAN WASN'T THE FIRST ONE AND THE BEAR STORY BAD ENOUGH?!?!?!?

    • @fandomcake5158
      @fandomcake5158 3 роки тому +9

      IDK man atleast nobody else died (except the animal dress). Last version, infanticide and an entire war was included.

  • @hanananah
    @hanananah 3 роки тому +195

    How is the moral not "don't try to commit incest". This one really deserves the VERY!

    • @davidtucker9498
      @davidtucker9498 2 роки тому +1

      Because anyone who WOULD commit incest will not be stopped by a fable. Better to focus on warning potential victims.

  • @laliclaudesol2350
    @laliclaudesol2350 3 роки тому +299

    I always thought the "three impossible dresses thing" meant that it was impossible for a fabric to match the natural changes of the sky, the moon and the sun:
    -The sky is ever changing, it's not always blue (sunset, dawn, stormy days, night skies, cloudy days...)
    -The Moon is constantly changing in her different phases and different colours like the Red moon or a lunar eclipse even.
    -Likewise, the Sun shifts its light during the day, it can appear golden or pearly or orange/red, and its light can shine differently...
    That's why I thought it would be impossible to make just a dress with each of these natural elements.

    • @blackeyedsusan727
      @blackeyedsusan727 2 роки тому +22

      No. It's really as simple as what he's described: textile making in the original era of these stories. Context is important.

    • @saskialolita
      @saskialolita Рік тому +12

      Same, in fact the versions I’ve read basically said as much (ie, _a dress woven out of yarn that sparkles as brilliantly as the stars, that glimmers and glistens as pearly/silver as the moon, that glows as bright & golden as the sun,_ etc….)

    • @QueenBoadicea
      @QueenBoadicea Рік тому +11

      This impossibility as you describe is shown in the French film "Donkey Skin" with Delphine Seyreig and Catherine Deneuve. (I'm probably misspelling those names.) The dresses are displayed with startling special effects that stand up rather well to the test of time.

    • @The1Dragonprincess
      @The1Dragonprincess Рік тому +4

      That actually is in an interesting theory. I always thought it was due to the material and the construction for such color. Like the amount of silk, or even using actual gems, gold, or silver.

  • @Wolfbane382
    @Wolfbane382 3 роки тому +292

    The Wolf Among us anyone? That's where I first heard about this story. Honestly had no idea it was a real fable though.

    • @dejaypage1575
      @dejaypage1575 3 роки тому +31

      Almost everything in Fables/Wolf Among Us are real fairy tales

    • @Wolfbane382
      @Wolfbane382 3 роки тому +6

      @@dejaypage1575 Ah. Very cool. ^^

    • @KatieLHall-fy1hw
      @KatieLHall-fy1hw 3 роки тому +6

      Fables is a spectacular comic! It goes even farther than the game!

    • @kryptid_mustard
      @kryptid_mustard 3 роки тому +4

      Same, I thought that was just in the game, guess I was wrong.

    • @tijanamilenkovic3425
      @tijanamilenkovic3425 3 роки тому +3

      @@dejaypage1575 what do you think about The Messed Up Origins of these for Anime Explained series
      Code Geass
      Soul Eater
      Bleach
      Inuyasha
      My Bride Is A Mermaid
      Yu Yu Hakusho
      Ranma ½
      Dragon Ball
      Naruto Shippuden
      Overlord
      Sword Art Online
      My Hero Academia
      Attack On Titan
      Tokyo Ghoul
      Shaman King
      Demon Slayer Kimetsu No Yaiba
      Jo Jo's Bizzare Adventures
      Sarazanmai
      Roses Of Versaille
      Sailor Moon
      Puella Magi Magica Madoka
      Yuki Yuna Is The Hero
      Pichi Pichi Mermaid Melody
      Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid
      Nadia The Secrets Of Blue Water
      Death Note
      Samurai Champloo
      Rosario + Vampire
      Kanokon
      Highschool D x D
      Senran Kagura
      Pom Poko
      My Neighbour Totoro
      Spirited Away
      Princess Mononoke
      So I Am A Spider, So What?
      Heaven's Design Team
      Petshop Of Horrors
      Beyblade
      Yu Gi Oh
      Digimon
      Pokemon
      Yo Kai Watch
      Bakugan
      Temtem
      Nexomon

  • @fabrisseterbrugghe8567
    @fabrisseterbrugghe8567 3 роки тому +158

    This sounds more like the _exceedingly_ messed up origins of Donkey Skin.

  • @1lobster
    @1lobster 3 роки тому +487

    Well, incest is a major taboo fore obvious reasons, so it makes sense that people have made lot’s of dark stories about how horrible it is.

    • @thestarsburnedmysoul8575
      @thestarsburnedmysoul8575 3 роки тому +37

      Idk, back in those times, incest was pretty common, especially among the royalty. Tho even then parents/children sexual relationships weren't most people's idea of happily ever after, I imagine.

    • @1lobster
      @1lobster 3 роки тому +37

      @@thestarsburnedmysoul8575 the royals yes. They also did lodes of other things that peasants would get killed for. The church and the judges in the Middle Ages weren’t allowed to prosecute the royal family.

    • @mymyhi9921
      @mymyhi9921 3 роки тому +14

      @@1lobster just wow still the same as today

    • @little_dandelion
      @little_dandelion 3 роки тому +10

      @@1lobster It hasn't changed. But it's gonna. These scumbags are gonna suffer the wrath of the Creator for their crimes against us!

    • @Codeman22
      @Codeman22 2 роки тому

      I don’t see anything wrong with it.

  • @Linkfan88
    @Linkfan88 3 роки тому +276

    Another s tier would defiantly have to be 'The Children Who Played Slaughter.' It's an Brother's Grimm tale, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was based off a true event.

    • @erievhs
      @erievhs 3 роки тому +24

      That one was so fd up, but the juniper tree was worse imo

    • @g.s.651
      @g.s.651 3 роки тому +16

      Huh, and I thought Donkey Skin was an obscure tale, but I certainly knew about it before. Didn’t know about this one until now, though.

    • @LostPeopleOfEarth158
      @LostPeopleOfEarth158 2 роки тому +4

      Huh, that one isn't in my copy of the complete collection. According to a quick google search since it was taken out for being too graphic. Funny considering Fitcher's Bird is still in there. The Juniper tree one was pretty messed up to.

    • @dallasgrey4247
      @dallasgrey4247 5 місяців тому +2

      I first read that story when I was 8 and that messed me up. I was afraid of playing with people, in fear we’d play butcher, and I’d be made the pig.

  • @YourFunkiness
    @YourFunkiness 3 роки тому +642

    Having played Telltale Games' Fables story, I know where this one is going.

    • @wendellcassio948
      @wendellcassio948 3 роки тому +26

      Speaking of it, do you know if season 2 is going to happen and if yes, is there a date yet?

    • @myafigs6065
      @myafigs6065 3 роки тому +21

      @@wendellcassio948 everything I heard makes it seems like it's in limbo . . . Especially with a show in the works 👀

    • @marcmcdonnell6586
      @marcmcdonnell6586 3 роки тому +21

      I heard about that story from that video game too, give or take Fables that shows all of the European fairytale in our Mundane world.

    • @user-ov6jg4ug9d
      @user-ov6jg4ug9d 3 роки тому +29

      A wolf among us?

    • @tijanamilenkovic3425
      @tijanamilenkovic3425 3 роки тому +3

      @@wendellcassio948 what do you think about The Messed Up Origins of Puppy In My Pocket Adventures In Pocketville, Monster in my pocket or My Little Pony Friendship is Magic

  • @Weareone0518
    @Weareone0518 3 роки тому +110

    I wonder if we would ever get a “SoloPlays” so we can watch you play The Wolf Among Us

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot 3 роки тому +405

    I see that incest vibe, almost anime like. And even a little beastiality in the one-story. Yeah Disney would have a hard time with these ones.

    • @fae69s
      @fae69s 3 роки тому +63

      naw, disney would just make her use a brown cloak with an animal friend on her back, and have the animal friend lead her to the prince in some way, before being killed off,. The dad would wanna kill her instead of screw her tho, and hed probably be taken in by gaurds at the end. never underestimate disney bro

    • @gboi3500
      @gboi3500 3 роки тому +20

      Heh,
      Anime had Beaststars, Disney has Zootopia

    • @krisl6537
      @krisl6537 3 роки тому +14

      If they can make stories like sun, moon and Talia aka sleeping beauty child friendly, I wouldn't be surprised if they could retell this story without traumatizing our kids 4 life!

    • @TheMimiSard
      @TheMimiSard 3 роки тому +5

      Meanwhile, Jim Henson already did it, though the impression I get from Wikipedia implies the Creature Shop was not part and parcel with the Muppets.

    • @mistermack4987
      @mistermack4987 3 роки тому +4

      Whachoo mean? Their entire empire is built on these type of stories, they just whitewash/remix the facts to make them family friendly

  • @Lady_Chalk
    @Lady_Chalk 3 роки тому +52

    My mouth is stuck open in horror and disbelief.

  • @tigerqueen007
    @tigerqueen007 3 роки тому +238

    This story was disturbing.
    Try doing The Red Shoes next!

    • @jenniferschillig3768
      @jenniferschillig3768 3 роки тому +22

      Yes, PLEASE. And Andersen's OTHER punish-a-girl-for-vanity-even-though-the-vainest-man-in-his-fairy-tales-gets-off-relatively-easily story, "The Girl Who Trod On A Loaf."

  • @taylors7061
    @taylors7061 3 роки тому +60

    There’s an Egyptian folk tale called Juleidah that’s basically this story but with an anklet

    • @EverythingEverywhereAllOver
      @EverythingEverywhereAllOver 3 роки тому +2

      wgat are your resources? I feel this is very wrong. I have never heard of this.

    • @m.z1256
      @m.z1256 3 роки тому +11

      @@EverythingEverywhereAllOver In the middle of anywhere a king had a wife whom he loved and a daughter who was the light of his eyes. Before the princess reached womanhood, the queen grew ill and died. The king mourned for one year as he sat by her tomb. Eventually he called upon a matchmaker, and told her that he wished to marry again. He took the anklet from his deceased wife and told the matchmaker he would marry the foot the anklet fit. The matchmaker searched throughout the kingdom but found no single girl whom the anklet would fit. Finally, the anklet slipped onto a princess' foot. This princess agreed to marry the king without knowing who she was to marry.[2] The night before the wedding, the princess asked the minister's daughter why so much talk filled the palace. The princess bribed her with her golden bangle, so the minister's daughter told her that the bridegroom was her father.
      The princess turned pale then sent everyone away and escaped. She first went to the tanner's home and gave him a handful of gold. She requested him to make her a suit of leather from head to toe; she left when it was completed. In the morning to king entered the bridal chamber to find that the princess had left. Soldiers at every gate asked if she had seen the king's daughter and she replied:
      My name is Juleidah for my coat of skins
      My eyes are weak, my sight is dim
      My ears are deaf, I cannot hear
      I care for no one far or near
      Juleidah ran until she collapsed. She passed out and a slave girl noticed her. The slave girl called upon her queen to show her the great pile of leather outside of her palace. They asked her who she was and the princess said her refrain once more. She was invited to join the servants and slaves. The queen's son noticed her and wanted to ask her hand in marriage. He prince asked Juleidah where she was from and she replied that she was from the land of the paddles and the ladles so the prince decided to travel there. Without the prince noticing, Juleidah slipped his ring off his hand. At the palace, Juleidah wanted to help the cook but the cook was reluctant. Eventually she was given a piece of dough to shape and she placed the prince's ring inside of it. For the prince's trek, he was given the bread holding the ring. Once he discovered it he ordered everyone to turn back. The two wed shortly after.
      The king put the matchmaker in chains. He searched from city to city until he reached the city where Juleidah resided. When the king reached the palace, Juleidah invited them in. She gave them food and a place to stay. Juleidah revealed to her father that she was his daughter. After it was revealed that Juleidah was the princess, the matchmaker was thrown into a ravine. The king gifted Juleidah and the prince, half of the kingdom and they lived happily ever after.[3]

    • @EverythingEverywhereAllOver
      @EverythingEverywhereAllOver 3 роки тому +7

      @@m.z1256 yes, this is from Wikipedia. This is the only source I could find and I couldn't find a thing about the writer, and it's an American publication. I wouldn't be surprised if it was all nonsense and lies. This story doesn't have roots, and if it really exists, it definitely isn't Egyptian.

    • @m.z1256
      @m.z1256 2 роки тому +1

      @@EverythingEverywhereAllOver i kinda agree

  • @swetuski
    @swetuski 2 роки тому +150

    I have a request for a story, when I was little my teacher told a story called (sorry if the title is wrong but from what I remember) ‘Flowers an Salamanders’ what I remember about the story was about two girls. Their mother spoiled one while abused the other. The abused one goes to fetch water and comes across a old woman begging for food. The girl gives her what little food she has and fetches the old woman water. The old woman was so taken by her kindness she said ‘Every time you speak may a beautiful flower or precious stone fall from your lips’ the girl doesn’t believe her at first but when she goes home to tell her story boom flowers and jewels fall from her mouth. The mother sends the spoiled one to get the same treatment but as you can guess that doesn’t happen. She insults and belittles the old lady and when she talks; salamanders and toads come out. That’s what I can remember, granted I learned this story in kindergarten, if your for it why not do this story?
    I just did a google search and found the story is called “Diamonds and Toads” well as I stated before I couldn’t remember the title just the plot

    • @davidtucker9498
      @davidtucker9498 2 роки тому +1

      The moral of the story: beat your children.

    • @megancrager4397
      @megancrager4397 2 роки тому +17

      There's many versions from different cultures with the same teaching moment
      Edit: children encountering an old hag or something and depending in their treatment of her, determined what happened to each. Different stories and different endings, but the same moral

    • @cherokeewolf6104
      @cherokeewolf6104 2 роки тому +10

      Yeah. I've read one where instead of an old woman, it's a couple of dwarves. The nice girl has coins fall out of her mouth and her sister(s) has/have toads fall out of their mouth

    • @swetuski
      @swetuski 2 роки тому

      @@cherokeewolf6104 so there are variations

    • @AntediluvianRomance
      @AntediluvianRomance 2 роки тому +1

      I know of two where the gifting being is some sort of a winter spirit and one where the being is a head. These are very wide-spread.

  • @Hipsygirl
    @Hipsygirl 3 роки тому +34

    "All Kinds of Fur" is also known as "Thousandfurs"

  • @virginiathomasakaicedragon6579
    @virginiathomasakaicedragon6579 3 роки тому +38

    Remember in The Co!or Purple when Oprah said what it was like to be the only girl in a house full of men and how she had to fight all the time.

  • @tayloredwards4968
    @tayloredwards4968 3 роки тому +53

    I swear the first part of this fairytale it's absolutely creepy

  • @celticpoet21
    @celticpoet21 3 роки тому +105

    There is an episode of Jim Henson's "The Storyteller" called "Sapsorrow" that mixes together and adapts elements of "All kinds of furs", "Doralice" and "Donkeyskin". How about the six swans/ravens story next?

    • @TheMimiSard
      @TheMimiSard 3 роки тому +8

      Word. That was where I heard the story there as well.

    • @mizzstrawberryz123
      @mizzstrawberryz123 3 роки тому +11

      Me too, I was wondering if anybody else would have seen The Storyteller. As he talked, the scenes played in my head

    • @jenniferschillig3768
      @jenniferschillig3768 3 роки тому +11

      At least in that one, the king really isn't so keen on marrying his daughter, but the deathbed vow is sacred in his country and he feels bound by it. And by the end, he's kicked the bucket and isn't around to cause any more trouble.

    • @plmitch
      @plmitch 3 роки тому +4

      I was just about to type it when I happened upon your comment...👍🏾

    • @noelrobertson4968
      @noelrobertson4968 3 роки тому +1

      Same. I love Him Henson's 'Storyteller', and I love the story of Sapsorrow. That's why I was wondering if he was going to mention it, but this is better!

  • @kingvoid1662
    @kingvoid1662 3 роки тому +36

    Haven't had a folklore explained in a minute

  • @develtedeltukeilachi
    @develtedeltukeilachi 3 роки тому +24

    There was a French movie about this tale with Catherine Deneuve, Peau d'Ane, I think is in UA-cam with english subtitles. It's beautiful, I highly recommend it!

  • @JewishSeaslug7575
    @JewishSeaslug7575 3 роки тому +12

    He got me weak when he said “I know, no one skipped the ad right?”

  • @myriamcroteau7006
    @myriamcroteau7006 3 роки тому +32

    Finally! You analysed Donkeyskin! I have the original Charles Perreault version. That story has been disturbing me since childhood. That and Blue beard. Not a lot of people know about Donkeyskin though... Wonder why that is? Ha ha ha!

  • @crocodileranger8404
    @crocodileranger8404 3 роки тому +13

    Donkey: *poops gold*
    Kingdom: *see! the market regulates itself!*

  • @OkasiOtaku
    @OkasiOtaku 3 роки тому +37

    I would love to see more messed up origins of Japanese mythologies and Japanese urban legends because some of them are really messed up and tragic but are very intriguing.
    Also Donkeyskin's story sounds a lot like the real story of St Dymphna (patron saint of mental illness and incest victims). The difference between the two is that while Donkeyskin got a happy ending, Dymphna didn't.

    • @georgetrevino3532
      @georgetrevino3532 2 роки тому +1

      No , let’s stay with Eastern Europe and Western European stories.

    • @azraelwoods2029
      @azraelwoods2029 11 місяців тому +8

      @@georgetrevino3532why not? asian folklore is so interesting and diverse with the amount of countries

  • @sarahallegra6239
    @sarahallegra6239 3 роки тому +20

    Deerskin has been one of my two favorite books for two decades. I wouldn’t call it a snuff film fairytale, lol, but it certainly is dark. In fact, my dog, a sighthound, is named Lissar after the heroine. Thanks for covering it!! I was very excited to see it!

    • @JenniferRodriquez
      @JenniferRodriquez 3 роки тому +2

      When he said snuff film I immediately thought he's never read it because it is nowhere near that. Tragic and dark? Yes. Snuff film? No.

    • @sarahallegra6239
      @sarahallegra6239 3 роки тому +3

      @@JenniferRodriquez Plus I’m pretty sure someone has to die and stay dead for it to even begin to qualify 😂 The dark tragedy in it is that it IS realistic. These things DO happen, which is why we’ve been writing stories about them since we could write. I’ve also heard some people describe it as a horror book, which I take issue with as well. It’s a book where some horrible things happen, but it’s ABOUT overcoming and healing from these very realistic scenarios. If you stripped away the fantasy setting, it’s a story far, far too common. The main “fantasy” element, I’ve always felt, is that she’s believed at the end, sigh.

  • @RedDragon1175
    @RedDragon1175 3 роки тому +28

    I’ve never heard of this tale…

  • @hodonyassin9760
    @hodonyassin9760 3 роки тому +46

    This has to be one of the most disturbing fairy tales ever!!

    • @gwencote957
      @gwencote957 3 роки тому +3

      Um... I know worse. :)

    • @hodonyassin9760
      @hodonyassin9760 3 роки тому +4

      @@gwencote957 Really? Which ones?

    • @gwencote957
      @gwencote957 3 роки тому +7

      @@hodonyassin9760 They are Grimm's... emm... one with the evil goat, one with the cut-off hands, one with bad child, who was annoying, then dies, then was annoying in grave, so his mother must dig him off, punish him and take him back to the grave. And also grimm's Rampunzel is also worse then donkeyskin.
      (sorry for errors, my english is bad)

    • @NoxAtlas
      @NoxAtlas 3 роки тому +5

      @@gwencote957 The most disturbing for me is Sleeping Beauty. I mean the original tale. The princess was basically raped and impregnated while she was sleeping and when she woke up and searched for the father, the king's wife gets jealous, cooks the children and makes her husband eat them. And I think Sleeping Beauty was accused of being a witch and was sentenced to be burnt at the stake. European fairytales are just medieval torture porn

    • @gwencote957
      @gwencote957 3 роки тому +1

      @@NoxAtlas Oh I forgot her :) Yes. And blood, violence, death and another interesting thinks. Welcome to the fairytale! Don't step over path and make your weapons ready!

  • @aquaticcatfey
    @aquaticcatfey 3 роки тому +51

    I liked Deerskin, for reasons admittedly skewed heavily towards "sighthounds are awesome" and "Ossin is a cinnamon roll" and "Lissar is an iconic fictional survivor." That said: you are not wrong about it.

  • @jasperofthrones1310
    @jasperofthrones1310 3 роки тому +34

    Ooh, a VERY messed up tale. This oughtta be good

  • @evelynnvernaz
    @evelynnvernaz 3 роки тому +24

    YAY! FINALLY! This has been the only tale I requested since you've covered already many stories so I'm so happy this video was made. I read this when I was a kid and always wondered how messed up it actually was since, you know, when I read it, it was part of a "children's book" so it was quite light XD

  • @Aisyah-xh9iy
    @Aisyah-xh9iy 3 роки тому +17

    I had never heard of this story before

  • @pamelamays4186
    @pamelamays4186 3 роки тому +25

    I'd like to see Disney try to clean up this story.

    • @Mattiethekorbat
      @Mattiethekorbat 3 роки тому +10

      I honestly don't think it would be that hard. They'd just turn the king into her godfather or a visiting king to tone down the incest... Without that, this could be a hundred other fairy tales.

    • @RedaDoodles
      @RedaDoodles 2 роки тому +4

      There’s already an animated film based on this. The king is bewitched by an evil sorceress and he becomes obsessed with his daughter.

  • @aleiablake3377
    @aleiablake3377 2 роки тому +8

    I somewhat knew this story as a kid by the title “Princess Furball”. More of a children’s version, she ran away because her father promised her hand to an ogre in exchange for wagons of silver. I think she hides the dresses in walnut shells. I loved the illustration.

  • @charlottesavage5966
    @charlottesavage5966 3 роки тому +43

    Donkey skin was my favourite short story as a kid lol, I remember preferring it over all the other fairy tales (It was one of the original stories too so idk if I just liked that it was dark / raw in comparison to the disney stuff I was exposed to)

  • @greyworld6242
    @greyworld6242 3 роки тому +17

    Please do a messed up origins of the wizard of Oz!

  • @pamelamays4186
    @pamelamays4186 3 роки тому +26

    Suggestion: The messed up origin of Triton. I've seen him as an under sea king and the son of King Neptune on Spongebob Squarepants.
    He's also the official mascot of the University Of San Diego, located, of all places, San Diego, CA.

    • @shannond1511
      @shannond1511 2 роки тому

      I went to triton high school in runnemede, nj...

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 2 роки тому

      There’s a Tezuka character who’s also called Triton.

  • @literallybertram7786
    @literallybertram7786 3 роки тому +13

    Read this one briefly for my College English class, Glad to see you offer some clarity because my stressed out brain could barely focus on how weird it was amidst the mass of other things I was doing 🤣

  • @thedarkwolf1392
    @thedarkwolf1392 3 роки тому +3

    I was introduced to Donkey Skin through the underrated Telltale Games The Wolf Among US. A game that I absolutely love.

  • @DniAngel3982
    @DniAngel3982 3 роки тому +3

    I love your content. Keep slaving away sir. You brighten my meaningless existence.

  • @od3910
    @od3910 3 роки тому +6

    I saw this in French class and every single one of us thought we were in a fever dream. They made a movie of this! It was a musical. The fairy god mother sang about how girls shouldn't sleep with their dad's. You know just to clear it up for her

    • @itsyahomiescott3742
      @itsyahomiescott3742 8 місяців тому

      “And don’t let your dad take interest, that’s incest!”🗣️🗣️🎶🎶🎶

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot 3 роки тому +56

    Sounds like Rodger from American Dad, if he eats Mexican food he drops golden....

  • @changminmybeloved3280
    @changminmybeloved3280 3 роки тому +4

    I have been obsessed with this story called " the boy who drew cats" since I was 5. It was pretty much the first book I read and I still can't figure it out. My phobia of large spaces most likely started bc of that.

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena 3 роки тому +12

    Fairy tales...every story is so messed up and Jon makes each more entertaining for us

  • @Foreverchris01
    @Foreverchris01 3 роки тому +59

    Hi @Jon Solo. Can you do a messed up origins on the Greco-Roman history of Helen of Troy. We want to know the actual history since a lot say the movie was very inaccurate. Thank you

    • @RedaDoodles
      @RedaDoodles 2 роки тому +1

      What film are you referring to ? The one with Brad Pitt or the one with Rossana Podesta ?

    • @Foreverchris01
      @Foreverchris01 2 роки тому +1

      @@RedaDoodles Both. Though people said the latter was worse than the first.

    • @princesszeldaprincess447
      @princesszeldaprincess447 2 роки тому

      Hi @ Jon-solo could you please do a video on a story called the princess and the goblins it was mine and my older sister’s favourite movie

    • @blackeyedsusan727
      @blackeyedsusan727 2 роки тому

      But we dont have a history. All we know is what was included in the poem of the Iliad and later interpretations of the same.

  • @theoryquery
    @theoryquery 3 роки тому +12

    "Means it happened a lot in the past." Sadly it STILL happens a lot...
    (Estimations based on memory) 1/4 women will be assualted / abused in their life, 75% of the time it is a family member or friend of the family.

  • @nouridottcom
    @nouridottcom 3 роки тому +11

    JON IS DOING DONKEY SKIN, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE!

  • @glorygloryholeallelujah
    @glorygloryholeallelujah 3 роки тому +8

    Oh. I thought the *”Sky Dress”* was a brilliant “impossible task,” because the sky is constantly changing and never the same (plus she didn’t specify day, night, dusk, etc.) But ya I guess *BLUE* works too.😒

  • @meghangrochow6353
    @meghangrochow6353 5 місяців тому +1

    I don't know how I got here but 8 hours and an entire workday under my belt I can honestly say I'm glad! Your channel is so interesting through the variety of old lore.. thank you for all of your hard work sir!

  • @Xebelan
    @Xebelan 3 роки тому +4

    I think these stories were the Jerry Springer show of their day-- not beloved because they were common and relatable-- but because they were outrageous and made real problems feel smaller.

  • @stephanieleland8671
    @stephanieleland8671 3 роки тому +4

    Awesome video! The version of this story in Jim Henson’s Storyteller series was one of my favorites to watch as a kid. I had idea there were so many versions of it.

  • @mrs.joestar
    @mrs.joestar 3 роки тому +7

    My Thursday is so good rn, thank you Jon

  • @itsthemackpack3784
    @itsthemackpack3784 3 роки тому

    I just wanted to say that I had a semi bad day, and watching your videos instantly make me feel better. Pls keep doing what you are doing. Never think that you don’t help people. Besides, it’s educational, so that’s a plus.

  • @weebmerchdestroyedwallet-k1283
    @weebmerchdestroyedwallet-k1283 3 роки тому

    One of the best part about your videos is the in-depth look into the details. Like how blue dye was uncommon and how these stories are so relatable at the time.

  • @DoubleDealingDisarray
    @DoubleDealingDisarray 3 роки тому +13

    I grew up on Grimm's Fairy Tales, so...yeah, Donkeyskin isn't a shock. ¬_¬

    • @gwencote957
      @gwencote957 3 роки тому +2

      Yes! I think we are practically immune to any fairytale shock :)

    • @DoubleDealingDisarray
      @DoubleDealingDisarray 3 роки тому +1

      @@gwencote957 I agree. X)

  • @user-ey9uj6vp9s
    @user-ey9uj6vp9s 3 роки тому +6

    The french movie Peau D'ane is a cinematic masterpiece.

    • @gwencote957
      @gwencote957 3 роки тому

      Yes! Including helicopter! And, of course, Jean Marais.

  • @charlesdantzler1762
    @charlesdantzler1762 3 роки тому

    Love your channel guy. I've been into myths, folklore, and legends since middle school.
    Thanks for expanding my knowledge on these subjects

  • @francescagreetham1804
    @francescagreetham1804 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for another great folklore explained! Definitely hadn’t heard this before

  • @yungprodigy3371
    @yungprodigy3371 3 роки тому +5

    Earliest Iv ever been…keep it up Brodie🔥🔥

  • @codybrewer9560
    @codybrewer9560 3 роки тому +3

    I will never not love everytime Jon calls out people that skip his sponsored ads

  • @Andi_Imke
    @Andi_Imke 3 роки тому

    So excited for this. It was one of my favorites stories growing up

  • @blabloojabun
    @blabloojabun 3 роки тому

    Tbh John I never skip your adds I’m always busy whilst this is on in my headphones keep up the good work always learning 👌👍🏻

  • @dahliaharris311
    @dahliaharris311 3 роки тому +3

    Random comment....Everytime i see the word "Donkey" I have to say it in Shrek's voice lol

  • @LuckyStone888
    @LuckyStone888 3 роки тому +3

    10:22 who knew this theme was so common there is an actual category for it? ATU-510B is awful and I needed to pause to get myself ready for this.
    13:50 Jon discusses the messed-up origin of Furries. Now that is a winning title.

  • @isabelall4127
    @isabelall4127 3 роки тому

    loved this video even more than usually

  • @sbenton62
    @sbenton62 3 роки тому

    Thanks Jon, very interesting and well done. Amazing that I have never heard of this tale, or any variant. I learned something new today thanks to you :)

  • @sorawisteria5850
    @sorawisteria5850 3 роки тому +5

    There's actually a movie adaptation of Donkeyskin created by Jacques Demy, the same guy who made The Umbrellas of Cherbourg. ☂️🌂

  • @happyelvine
    @happyelvine 3 роки тому +6

    I've never really deep-analyzed that story. I remember there was a film on it too and it didn't click at the time that it was a really bad story - I was too young.
    So for kids, there's the dresses, the prince, etc. For others, there's the immoral father that we all want to beat the s. out of, the condition of women that can be differently interpreted according to the time we're in.
    I think it's a very sad story and for nowadays if people read it, it might get them disgusted by it and maybe refrain from such behavior... Although I may be too wishful here.

  • @silvercrystalrose28
    @silvercrystalrose28 3 роки тому

    Thank you for doing this messed-up origin of furpelts Jon solo. It's absolutely amazing the information you found out.

  • @4li3n.t.p
    @4li3n.t.p 3 роки тому +1

    A messed up origins to a story i never heard of. This is why i love this channel.

  • @josephcarvil9474
    @josephcarvil9474 3 роки тому +7

    Can you talk about Geryon form Greek Mythology next! 🙃

  • @firepoet6926
    @firepoet6926 3 роки тому +5

    This one is quite dark, but that’s something interesting about your content. It’s interesting how dark fairy tales were. Definitely an s tier.

    • @jenniferschillig3768
      @jenniferschillig3768 3 роки тому

      Well, the thing is...fairy tales weren't originally meant for children. They were entertainment in fashionable salons, which is where Perrault's and other French fairy tales got their start. And even by the time of the Grimms, when they were labeled as "children's and household tales," these were stories from a harsher time where illness and early death were common, so the stories often reflected this much harsher world. Stories reflect their tellers and the times they're told in, after all.

  • @BobRoss233
    @BobRoss233 Рік тому +1

    Funny thing is, I've heard a variant of this fairytale by way of Jim Henson's The Storyteller. The tale was called Sapsarrow/Straggletag.

  • @harrietlyall1991
    @harrietlyall1991 3 роки тому

    Fascinating, thank you. I love folklore and I’m going off to get the books and articles you reference.

  • @richewilson6394
    @richewilson6394 3 роки тому +4

    They called this story sapsorrow in the Storyteller by Jim Henson Productions, they didn't have donkeyskin they had Feathers & Fur I guess. Then there was the Grimm's Fairy Tale classics by Sabon that had one that was called the coat with many colors which was kind of dark but it was good.

  • @andrejpopovic9732
    @andrejpopovic9732 3 роки тому +3

    God am i the only one who had a cartoon of this on a CD. My childhood was destroyed when prince almoust died 😱

  • @threexx8808
    @threexx8808 3 роки тому +1

    I never heard of this and this is insane.

  • @MsMissme90
    @MsMissme90 3 роки тому +1

    YAAASSSS TO THE JON SHOT FIRST SHIRT!!!! It’s exactly what I asked for lol

  • @theflash7688
    @theflash7688 3 роки тому +6

    Do messed up origins of horror stories

  • @tayloredwards4968
    @tayloredwards4968 3 роки тому +10

    The fur of a thousand coats there actually was an anime based on that version

    • @gboi3500
      @gboi3500 3 роки тому

      UwU???

    • @tayloredwards4968
      @tayloredwards4968 3 роки тому

      Yeah there was actually an anime series that total lot of Brothers Grimm fairy tales and that's when I heard that version of the story

  • @JaeArt3
    @JaeArt3 3 роки тому

    I think this is the first time i have ever sat through the sponsorship ad 😅 im seriously considering square space to help make a website for my moms business

  • @nc5193
    @nc5193 3 роки тому

    I'd never heard of this one. Thank you x

  • @OcarinaSapphr-
    @OcarinaSapphr- 3 роки тому +3

    I read a more ‘kid-friendly’ version of DonkeySkin at like 7, I can’t remember the name of it - where, instead of it being her dad who wanted to marry her, he wanted to make some marriage alliance with an older neighbouring king- & she asks for various unusually made gowns, she gets all of them, & is kind of despairing- then asks for a cloak made from every kind of fur- & uses that to sneak out (with her fancy dresses- hidden in a case shaped like a golden walnut shell).
    She gets work at the kitchens of yet another neighbouring king- & learns he’s to throw a succession of balls for the noble maidens of the land, to find his bride.
    She goes to the ball, they dance, he’s attracted, blah, blah, blah. She leaves a short time later.
    Next day, she drops an earring in his food.
    There’s another ball- lather, rinse, repeat with another dress. His attraction has apparently increased, but she still returns to ‘that peasant life’...
    Next day, same deal. The other earring, this time.
    Third & final ball- she pulls out the finest of the dresses- & this third night, he’s apparently madly in love with her- yet she still goes back to the kitchens.
    Next day, the king goes to the kitchens, & sees her about to drop a ring into his meal- he proposes on the spot...
    I was only 12 when I read the **real** & uncensored version- I gotta say, I prefer the kid-friendly version of this tale...

  • @notproductiveproductions3504
    @notproductiveproductions3504 3 роки тому +8

    You can’t tell me Hansel and Gretel weren’t potheads

    • @taekwongurl
      @taekwongurl 3 роки тому +4

      Nah, it was 2 desperate kids who were left abandoned in the woods. They did shrooms.

    • @tijanamilenkovic3425
      @tijanamilenkovic3425 3 роки тому

      @@taekwongurl what do you think about The Messed Up Origins of Gravity Falls

  • @mila6589
    @mila6589 3 роки тому

    Yeahh!! I suggested this story in the last video! Thanksss

  • @jmbiiesq
    @jmbiiesq 3 роки тому

    I had never heard of this story in any form - another awesome video

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot 3 роки тому +4

    What after all that torture he didn't scream freedom???!!!!

  • @potato5413
    @potato5413 3 роки тому +4

    Wait a minute was it that bad I remember it being innocent.

  • @angelyang6224
    @angelyang6224 3 роки тому

    I've wanted this for so long!!! Yes!

  • @saphirefoxirl
    @saphirefoxirl 3 роки тому

    I remember reading this one as a kid but then I couldn't find it again no one else ever seemed to remember it. Thank you for reassuring me that I didn't just imagine it!

  • @camillekcht8308
    @camillekcht8308 3 роки тому +5

    I couldn't stop laughing when he said the messed up origines of furries 😂

  • @cesarquijano94
    @cesarquijano94 3 роки тому +20

    Disney made two movies about a girl falling in love with a beast. I'm sure incest in no problem

    • @YellowBear-kx1ff
      @YellowBear-kx1ff 3 роки тому

      I guess not. The princess in this tale can be a Disney Princess.

    • @cesarquijano94
      @cesarquijano94 3 роки тому +1

      @@YellowBear-kx1ff definitely lol

    • @YellowBear-kx1ff
      @YellowBear-kx1ff 3 роки тому +6

      @@cesarquijano94 Let’s go through her requirements: Is she human? Yes. Will she have a primary role in an animated film? Yes. Is she introduced in a sequel? No. Is she born royal? Yes. Does she MARRY royal? Yes. Does she perform an act of heroism? I’m not sure.

    • @cesarquijano94
      @cesarquijano94 3 роки тому +4

      @@YellowBear-kx1ff Well, technically she preforms an act of heroism by making the cake

    • @YellowBear-kx1ff
      @YellowBear-kx1ff 3 роки тому

      @@cesarquijano94 Alright then. Since this day and age has MODERN fairy-tales, how would you modernise this fairy-tale for a Disney film?

  • @candiigurl7893
    @candiigurl7893 3 роки тому +1

    I missed Messed Up Folklore. Glad we got a new one this week!

  • @gabbyn978
    @gabbyn978 3 роки тому +1

    There is a french movie with Catherine Deneuve starring as Peau d' âne - Donkey Skin. Other names of this movies are Once Upon a Time or The Magic Donkey.

  • @iamcoolalot
    @iamcoolalot 3 роки тому

    great video, had never heard of this

  • @rubyambler2005
    @rubyambler2005 3 роки тому

    This was a new one for me but very well done...just like always!

  • @Eppsfactor95
    @Eppsfactor95 3 роки тому

    about time you did this story

  • @jessicanelson7466
    @jessicanelson7466 3 роки тому +1

    This was one my favorite fairy tales! I wish you could do the origins of the Wizard oz next :)