5 REASONS NOT TO BUY HARLEY BENTON (ironic)
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If I spend €150 on a guitar and I resell it for €75 no big deal. If I buy a guitar for €5000 and resell it for €3000, that is a big deal.
Sam F Amen brother.
That's not the Law of Diminishing Returns, that's just percentage drop vs gross drop.
Sam F that's not the law of deminishing returns, the law of deminishing returns says 'the more something costs the less bang for the buck you get', for example a guitar double the cost won't be double the quality. this has nothing to do with resale value.
well...Sam , i cant afford a new $200. i have to wait until people dent the living shit out of $200 guitars...or order kits,...
Shit I cant even afford kits anymore..I'll have to order the parts and neck separately for under $80.. F-it...I have over 20 guitars..I can still get 30 more with custom work and paint. i ma wrap the next 5 flying V in chrome vinyl to give it the special tone,lol
Second that !!
2:00 Sorry, but if you're in a band and they're giving hard time for your gear brand instead of your playing and sound... you're just in the wrong band!
This... 100%
True. But unfortunately there is a lot of wrong bands then ;-)
Amen.
Hans Erik Kratholm Rasmussen never had a band criticize or even acknowledge my instrument. A guy could walk in with a strat style knock off covered in tape, marker, and stickers all over it but if he can play I never met anyone that would criticize it. If anything they would have a great story to tell.
Being in "the wrong band" sometimes pays tho
If you are poor - buy Benton, if you are rich - take six Bentons at once!
Best. Advice. Ever.
Hahaaha i Iove it. Look where is Gibson now
hahahahaha
what a Dick
Bartmuz - crazy arranger best comment
If you live in the US don't buy a Harley Benton. Most guitar players in the US haven't learned anything about Harley Benton guitars, yet so when I go out to do a gig with a Harley Benton I have other players saying "Nice guitar, what is that?' I say it's a guitar that I imported from Europe. "Wow. Must have cost a bundle." .....So if you live in the US, don't blow my image.
Rickholly74 lmao
Same thing happens here with fenders & gibsons.
Just curious, how bad is the shipping on one of these? I’m thinking of getting the Mustang and Bass VI copies.
its about $35 plus there usually anther $8 international postage fee that wont show up when you check out but will be charged shortly after it is shipped. I would image it takes a different amount of time to arrive depending on where you rae in the U.S but for me in Maryland it took about a a week and a half to arrive
@@robbiedraper3953 Where are you in Maryland ? I'm a old PG County boy and lived just over 20 years in Solomon's Island. Living in Thailand now ! Just ordered the HB cst24 hb in tortoise ! I'm so Excited !!!
I'm too old to be cool. Keep your names. I want a new Harley Benton!
+Still Livin' The Blues yeah! agree
me too, but which one? I've just receieved the rosewood Tele, one of the best teles i've played.
Just buy all of them. You will pay the price of just one Gibson for a whole wagon of good (and sometimes awesome) guitars.
Still Livin' The Blues your not that far ahead of me brother! Ps. Love the new video
Haha. Thanks!
Dear people, buy yourselves some humor. 😂😂😂 this video pushed me to buy Harley Benton products instead of building hate where it's to smile
my fault honestly. english is not my native language.. the humor doesn't come through the way it should be.
thanks for you comment!
@@CoryMura I think you English is extremely good. And your humor comes through very well.
@@CoryMura I was about to comment that for a German (I assume from accent) you have a great sense of humour!
I Died when he said Number 1: YOU ARE RICH! 😂😂
Except even slash played a knockoff Gibson
@some random guy what? Really?
Pedro Cardoso Yes, his Appetite For Destruction guitar is not a Gibson.
Yeap. Read his biography. It was a 'custom' les paul
a chris derigg i believe was the name. but, it supposedly had quality much better then a gibson
an expensive 'knockoff'
Just took my HB 25T to a top rated luthier for a pro setup, he said it played as good as any fender tele after he had finished with it.Could not believe
how much i had paid for it.
Nice to hear that stuff! i am a luthier and i thought that too...thats one reason i started the channel. thx for telling us!
They are a bit hit and miss , avoid the really cheap ones like the 65 euro Strats and Teles they are awful but once you pay over 100 euro for a Harley benton i would say they are as good as any Epiphone or Squier guitar
Yeah they are shit
People sometimes forget what inspired them to pick up the instrument in the first place. Well for me anyway, it was the music and that is still what keeps me going. Don't get me wrong, I love gear and I wish I had a PRS etc. but I love music more. Cheers Cory.
Perth Guitar excellent comment! i agree cheers perth!
Perth Guitar Jimmi Hendrix started with a '59 double cut Danelectro.
It's so much better to play a Harley Benton branded guitar than to play a 'direct-buy' fake from China.
The only thing I don't like to Harley Benton... their name/logo. They could have someone to work on a nice logo to integrate the name. Harley Benton (HB) name is fine... but they could find a better tipo and/or logo to make more unique... It's the same thing with Sire Marcus Miller basses. I just don't get that no one worked with them to create a good freaking logo that would be recognizable from the audience during a concert. My 2¢
+Phil Smith AMEN ! 100% with you! i mean a new logo is not even a price changer im anyway. you get a cooler design for the same price.
a nicey handwritten font, 2 letters 'HB' and the brand got already a Big upgrade
Well, if by any chance, someone from HB is reading those comment, I'm willing to help them to make a new better logo, and I won't even charge them for that! I'm even surprised that Henning that also work with Thomann and HB didn't propose it (since he seems to also being into marketing and design stuff). As you say, it wouldn't cost anything (or very very little, like less than 1 Euro on the final price) and we would have a better looking logo that would be more unique and recognisable. To me, that would indeed be a big improvement. And I'm pretty sure, buyer wouldn't think twice if any HB guitars would be 1€ more expensive than the current prices.
THIS!!! I am actually annoyed by the logo being so ugly... it especially doesn't fit their progressive or flying V models. If they would make this slight change I wouldn't even know which guitar to buy first. But it's seriously stopping me from buying one with a painted headstock now. Because I don't have the skill to neatly remove it. But it's so disturbing to me it becomes unacceptable. I mean how cool is that 8 string? It's not... But it could be
I've got fake for china, switched pickups, and it eats high end epiphones for less price. And for the around 350$ u can get fully customized guitar that almost looks like high end gibsons. Even if these guitars need some money to get them playing good, its still cheaper and has only a pros.
Ps. u can ask sellers to make guitar without any "gibsons,fenders" on it, and make it not fake, but cool af.
comments are way too serious for a video thats not very serious. 😂
Your voice and accent are awesome! You'd make a great character actor for a James Bond film. The review is funny and informative. I enjoyed it.
Love this video!
Love your humor :-))
Fully agree with you Cory - a nice light hearted poke at guitar snobs! Unfortunately some people take this FAR to seriously, but if you've just paid £3000 for a custom shop whatever you're going to be passed when someone says that a HB is just as good for 99% of players! Love your videos keep them coming mi amigo
Cory Mura : i guess people don’t understand sarcasm
The irony is, the big name guitarists aren't playing the big name guitars. Slash plays a Derrig, not a gibson.
+Travis Parkinson yeah, i know... crazy right? ghost builds. on other brand the artists get custom shop guitars and the signature guitars they sell are standard guitars from the factory. crazy business
+Cory Mura custom shops are incredibly overpriced, marketing hyped crap, unless of course you are a big named guitarist that gets the attention of their prized luthier who they'll have on speed dial. The average player (I'm in that category) wouldn't know the difference between a real brand name and a fake if they had to do a blindfold test and pick which one was which. Gibsons are not made from unicorn blood.
Les Paul actually played Epiphones, and after he signed with Gibson, they altered his Epiphone headstocks and glued the Gibson logo on them. Gibson is a pirate copy of an Epiphone
Gabriel Cornea Very true
Very true. Epiphone is actually an older company than Gibson, and they were also Gibson's biggest competition at one point. So when Gibson bought them out, it makes sense that they make them "lower quality" but yet I have owned many Epiphones, vintage and modern, and currently have 5. 2 of which are modern, 3 are vintage and they are my main gigging guitars.
I clicked on this video to tell you straight up that you shouldn't talk down on Harley Benton, was amused to hear your 5 reasons ;) I'm currently a happy owner of a Harley Benton BZ-7000 NT (7 string bass guitar) and i'm telling you that 375 € are a ridiculously low price for such an awesome instrument :) Best bass i ever played on! :)
+Egil Hansen hahaha! i guess you are not alone. thats a nice looking bass for sure. sadly never olayed it but i believe you that its nice for sure
i have 2 guitars, One Epiphone es 339 pro, and One HB resonator... what i like about this resonator is the smooth and silky feel of the laquer
Kirk Hammet told me one time(yes, we had a conversation while drinking in a bar) that he loves ALL guitars for their individual qualities. Some very expensive, custom shop guitars have flaws all over them and don't sound good. Then on the other hand, some beat up, pieces of crap, under $300 dollar guitars sound awesome and hold up well to frequent gigging. Its all about the hands of the player. Not the wood, metals, and plastics in the hands of the hands of the player.👍😊
The video's down-voters are probably mostly Gibson owners who are suffering "buyer's remorse" and are pissed off with the world.
Gibson owners/collectors are the worst. Fender isn't too far behind (though I love fender body shapes),
I done some work on it ( removed frets to sand a more rounded radius to the fingerboard, glued the old frets back in.,New pickups and 4 way switch. Sanded the headstock to Fender shape. Now my Harley Benton rosewood is as good as it gets. And i have some far more expensive guitars laying about ! I
The reason why Gibson and Fender became the main two choices came down to 1 thing only. When I started playing there was huge gap in quality and play ability between the two nameplates already mentioned and the garbage that was available outside of those two biggies in 1972. Granted some good guitar names began their businesses in the early 70's but they had a long way to go before they began to reach parity with Fender and Gibson.A Fender US Strat was 500.00 in 1973 a Gibson Les Paul standard about 700.00. The amp market was dominated by Marshall, Fender and Ampeg and of course beyond that was a million really bad quality cheap garbage. Some of the old stuff was actually dangerous (not having a 3 prong plug). I really wish we had the quality and variety back then that we have today. Consider yourself a very man to have all this variety of good quality because it wasn't always that way in this business.
Wie laut ist die HD35 Gitarre eigentlich im Vergleich einer E-Gitarre, wenn die nicht an einer Box angeschlossen ist?
Thanks so very much for all the videos that you made! I've seen the guitars but I hadn't looked into it until I browsed Thomann today. I'm completely stunned, they look amazing and sound good too! Thanks again!
+ultrafloss492 thanks too for watching and commenting!
Reason nr 4: I had Greg Bennet fb1 as my first e-guitar, it was around $150-200 new in 2003. I sold it to my friend for 100 (with s-duncans installed).
Nowadays it costs around $600 on e-bay О_О
I see a bugera v22 or v55 head in the background, how is the combination of a hb with a bugera?
I own 3 Harley Bentons and and an Epiphone...my Harley Bentons sound so much better with the music that I play. I hardly touch the Epiphone..
I always wanted something 335'ish. I couldn't justify big bucks on an indulgence.
(I'm a bass player. What do I know about guitars anyway?)
That HB-35+ was just the ticket.
Once I'd removed the "pig guard" she looked lovely.
She played nice enough out of the box.
A little fret dressing and she plays sweet now. 8^)
I own a nice Gibson SG but fell in love with the Harley Benton TE-20HH SBK and ordered it yesterday.
jetzt mal unter uns kann man so eine Harley Benton CST-24T sound wise durch picks ups usw.. an eine PRS ran bringen?
thank you for the video. I have a question. Do you know if they sell Oatmeal Quaker Oates in Walmart?
Great video. I play Harley Benton myself for about 1 1/2 years now. I got the SC Custom Lemon Flame. I have other, higher priced guitars, too but the SC Custom is actually my favorite guitar. I like the neckshape and the fretboard radius a lot. So nice to play.
They are not perfect though. But the imperfections are mostly on the visual side. Mechanically the guitar is absolutely fine. Honestly, I would do it like you. I'd buy an arsenal of Harley Bentons before I'd buy a 2.000 EUR Gibson guitar. Not that Gibson is bad, though.
I saw someone with a Harley Benton T-Style guitar. He just sanded off the Harley Benton Logo and now nobody asks any questions. :D It's a good guitar, period.
if Michael Schenker played a Harley Benton then every fucker would be buying them...
Willie Nelson played a shitty Stella, Jimi Hendrix played whatever he could afford. Harley Bentons are a blessing for the talented people with no money, because they doesn't suck and they are easily modded/improved
Vernon Robinson Well on fact everyone plays them. They sell perfectly.
And for more money...!
Hey brother Cory: is that 335-looking model a full size 335 or more like a 339, smaller body?
great video ! Which model is this Thanks
My only reason not to buy an Harley Benton? Well, I would already have some and I would like to get something else. I have PRS guitars (including 3,300+ Euros ones), I have Fender Strat, etc... and to me, they are all good and unique... but just like would a Harley Benton, a Vintage JHS, a Squier, Epiphone or a Made in China copy. If it sounds good, it's all that matter.
Of course, I want a real Fender Strat because that's the guitar I always wanted, it has the sound I like and many of the guitarist I like used one (Jeff Beck, Clapton, Mark Knopfler, John Mayer, etc...), and yes I want a real Gibson Les Paul because I loved Gary Moore, Slash, etc... And even if I'm not rich, I still like to save money to be able to buy this nice piece of art, even as a collector. But I will not snob cheaper guitars or brands. I can definitely appreciate the quality and nice finishing of some high-end guitars, but I can also "not care much" when it comes to some guitars... that's also why I like used guitars, or even relic and distressed guitars.
I bought a 1994 Fender Strat, Made in Japan... for 350 Euros. And honestly, the guitar is awesome and have nothing to be shame in comparison to the 1996 John Cruz Masterbuilt Fender Strat I played at the studio. Are they the same? Nope... they are different. But not good and bad... just different. Are all cheap guitars awesome? No... they're some lemons, just like there was some lemon in the '50s and '60s... but people just didn't care about them and they end up in trashland after decades (just like it can happen with some lemons today). But sometimes, we can find guitars that are just "awesome", regardless the price. Let's not forget that the Peter Green Les Paul that were sold later to Gary Moore and finally bought lately by James Hetfield for $2M... was nothing else than a $300 "standard Les Paul" bought in store. Nothing "custom built", or "custom order", etc... just a regular guitar out of the production line like we can find today.
Sure, some construction methods were different back in the days... and mass production today can also lead to some inferior material sometimes. But let's also not forget that production heavily progress with robots, CNC, and knowledge over the years. The quality of "entry price" guitars today is way way better than the quality of "entry price" guitars we could get decades ago. We only have to look at some blindtest to see that if we can read the headstock, sometimes it could be hard to tell apart a Squier Classic Vibe Strat to a Custom Shop Strat. It just shows how great the low end guitars are today.
And no guitars on earth have for more of $900 of material. Everything else is only labor, knowledge and branding. However, we can be assured today that if we buy a guitar in the $1,000-$2,000 we can be sure it will be a perfectly capable guitar. At this price range, we can expect quality control is good and generally avoid to have "lemons".
And generally guitars in the $500-$1,000 might be slightly different and it's better to try before to buy to be sure. Depending the brand, we can find some "lemons" in this price range, so it's better to try... but most of guitars made in far east asia generally are good quality for this price.
Under $500, we can't expect perfection, and we can't expect a very high quality control... but it doesn't mean it won't be good!! just that we can expect some shortcuts to cut the cost... it could be in material, in finishing, quality control, or even in distribution model (such Harley Benton). If Harley Benton would be distributed like other brand (by importers to resellers, etc...), we can easily guess they would be close to the $400-$500 price range for most that are in the $200-$250 price range now.
That's why brands and high-end or expensive guitars could be great if you're a collector (and if you have the money)... and yes not all cheap guitars are awesome... we can expect some shortcuts. Some could be lemons, but some could be great. Therefore, don't judge a book by its cover :)
My 2¢
dude! you should do videos! you got something to say
Thanks Cory, but I don't make videos... I leave that for people like you that makes them good. I'm more a writer than a talker on camera... and unfortunately, people don't like to read anymore.
I just hope I could get my point, because sometimes it gets lost in the translation... I just think there's room for any kind of guitars and any brand. And it's not because Harley Benton is not a "famous 60 years old brand", nor expensive guitars, that they can't be good. And it doesn't mean that expensive guitars are just expensive for no reason.
I think we should be happy to live in a world where we have so much choices for anyone, and that music has never been so affordable and accessible to anyone. And also that with new technologies like computers, internet, etc... we can even share our passion and opinions with other people around the world.
Let's focus on the positive things... by watching your videos, you finally convinced me to buy some Harley Benton (I will probably start with a Tele 90 FLT and maybe a 7 Strings Fan Frets).
I never played more than 6 strings... so I wouldn't spend 3,000 or 4,000 bucks in a 7 string fan fretted guitar; that would be insane if I just don't like it and if I can't play it often enough to be worth the investment. But investing 300 or 400 bucks in a Harley Benton version... yeah, why not?! At least I can try, and I can see if it will open some new doors for sounds and creativity. This is something I couldn't do if I would only buy US PRS, Fender, Gibson, Sandberg, etc...
But it doesn't change the fact, I always wanted a US PRS, a Fender Strat Elite and a Gibson Les Paul '58 Historic. Why? Because this is some iconic guitars... and it will be worth to save money long enough to afford them to have them in the collection. They won't make me a better player for sure, but I see it more than piece of art and collection than only instruments. Harley Benton (and other cheap/unknown guitars) don't have this status of piece of art and collection... But who knows, maybe some will be 50 or 60 years from now?!
There's absolutely no reason to snob "cheap" brands/guitars, nor to despite "expensive" brands/guitars. In the end, they're all instruments and that would be a shame to react that way toward instruments. There's room for everything: every brand, every model, every instruments, every music style and every musicien.
If one doesn't like it, just move on and do something better of his/her life :)
My 2¢
+Phil Smith i like to read and i read all comments, these long ones too! nice attitude you got there. i agree!
and hey, i want a gibson, prs too again in the future 😊
Robert Bolognese you either trolling or you clearly missed the whole point which is some cheap guitars can be good too, just as good as some high end expensive ones. And I have some expensive ones myself and even more at the studio, some Private Stock and Masterbuilt over 10 grand each. And In the end, each guitars are different anyway but it doesn't mean cheap are bad; claiming this only shows how very little you know. So move on, I'm not interested in your unfounded opinion. Bye!
Phil Smith When I read Mark Knopfler and Clapton, you became my nigga.
100% correct. I am way past the "headstock envy". After 40 years of playing regular gigs...been there, had the big ticket items and still have a few (both Fender and Gibson's) but now I go with what sounds good and plays well not what name is on the guitar. I own two Harley Benton's and two Agile's and I think they play and sound excellent.
what is the deal with point N°5? All I care is good playability, mechanical reliability and stability. Do I get this on a H&B ? I don't care too much if the paint is scratched or the binding is not perfect. If it doesn't fall apart it's good enough. I would like to buy one to record guitar tracks in the studio and occasional gigs.
Hey what model guitar is that?
I bet that when Thomann stays on course with the development of Harley Benton, one day (several years later) the perception will change. Several of the then older stuff will be collectors items.
My top reason why I don't buy another Harley Benton guitar: I have got to stop before getting really addicted ;-) (..but I may well fail when I see this great 335..)
greaaaat guitar. review is coming tomorrow!
I'm waiting months to get my Harley Benton DC-Custom Cherry (Gibson SG type) guitar delivered in the USA. My order will say 4-5 weeks, then weeks later it will say 4-5 weeks. ?They keep moving the goal post.
What do u think about the Prince tele copy from HB Harley Benton TE-80 NT Deluxe Series
I don't see a problem with crossing out "Harley Benton" on the headstock and writing "GiBsoN" in white crayon on the headstock. No problem whatsoever.
I thought about it too
I've seen some on youtube that look great and others that look like firewood.
I spent 3 years making guitars back in the 80's and am a trained and qualified luthier.
There's wood and there's wood, there's pots and there's pots and there's frets and there's frets.
Now if for example you buy a Gibson or even an epiphone you get a lifetime warranty, the pots will be of a consistent quality and the wood will be well seasoned meaning the guitar should last a lifetime and beyond.
Using Cheap woods to make a cheap pretty looking guitar might work in the short term, but we won't be seeing any vintage harley bentons in 50 years I expect. I might buy one for a learner, but then again probably not I'd rather buy a used Ibanez or Washburn for the same money. Not being a snob I just don't see the point in buying cheap mail order guitars when you can get a cheap used guitar you can play before you buy.
Your arguments convinced me absolutely, thanks!
My pal and neighbour is a well known and respected luthier of 30 years. Some of what you wrote is misinformed. Sorry. It's certainly not comparable price wise so....
I just got a HB TE 52. I am stunned with how good it is. Also have Gibson ES 125 (think George Thorogood) my dad bought new in 1963!
I acquired a Taylor Baby traveller last year, turned out to be the worst guitar I've ever played. Now that put me off buying another travel guitar until I saw this Harley Benton traveller, I just couldn't understand how they could make it so cheaply as it looked good quality. When it arrived I knew it had something, it felt better than any acoustic I've picked up previously. I've actually had it under a week and I've been playing longer each time I pick it up! It's really helped to change things around. This video just proves the point further. A+ ✌
the level of sarcasm is absolutly awesome
Because I'd seen some other of his videos, and know he likes the HBs, I knew it would be tongue-in-cheek.
LOL, first I clicked thinking some ass was going to tell us all how it has to be Gibson and all others are crap. I am so glad I came here thanks. I don't have a Harley Benton yet but am going to order 3 in a week or so hopefully. I bought my first Gibson in '72. WHite pearl SG with a 50-watt amp for 89 dollars. From the Gibson dime store. Today its worth a lot and it did sound amazing, still does sound good but IF I am honest it sounds no better than some generic sg's out there today. I don't waste my money on Gibson anymore. WHY? Because the price is stupid. Some are now going to say but made in America costs more... Well, that is true. But not hundreds or thousands more, in fact, a Les Paul classic costs them a whole 139 dollars to build including all labor, materials, and shipping. 139 dollars. and you will pay 2500 and up because you bought the scam of tonewoods and how much better the wood selection is compared to let's say Epiphone.... ITS ALL A LIE GUYS> A Solid Body Guitar sounds the way it does from the strings, pickups and nut/bridge setup. It has ZERO to do with some magical tone wood... Now accoustics are another story but a solid body is just that... a chunk of wood. The only help it may give is sustain but even that is questionable.......
Now after roughly 45 years of playing I buy Epiphone, I build from nice kits myself, Gretsch, PRS... OKOK I have two PRS and no they are not expensive they were both SE's. a Zach Meyers which needs different pickups and an awesome AE20 acoustic all mahogany. Now after trying some lower priced guitars like Harley Benton, I am thrilled that I can spend 200 dollars or buy 3 of them for less than an Epiphone custom....
Wow too much writing sorry... went a bit off track.
Anyway thanks, and for you, sheeple Spending your hard earned money on Gibson and Fender instead of squire..... I feel for you fellas you were sold a bill of goods and Gibson has gone so far downhill that my Epiphones perform better, look better and just feel..... better.... and no... your Gibson will not outlast a less expensive guitar and chances are youll kill yours by breaking the headstock....
i have a harley benton acoustic for 5 months now
the headstock has fallen off the guitar two times until now
but it sounds great and i love the guitar
I’ve had Gibson Lp &fender strat both went back to manufacturer for fret work, they were terrible . Recently bought 2 HB both played perfectly out the box.
Is this video ironical?
Chistoso Mike yes
No...
Yes
No it's german. And we germans don't even know ironic stuff or fun.. 😂. Just a joke but this video is quiete weird.. a german sounding dude trying to be funny in english language.. dope😂
No it's just stupid...
Harley Benton will be my next guitar. I have a Fender already.
Really like what you did here, I'm looking at an HB TE90 ftl, and have been checking some reviews, sounds really cool. Don't mind the name, it sounds awsome!
Really great avenue to take on the HB's. Great job and thanks for sharing
Absolutely spot on, some people are so brainwashed. Brilliant video Corey.
thx man! yeah, its sad honestly.
Kommen sie aus Deutschland ?
Das muss man noch fragen? :P
Deutsche die Englisch reden erkennt man erstaunlich oft direkt :D
Ist das nicht offensichtlich?
I've got a Harley Benton EX76 which I bought in a bit of a panic last year (my Epiphone was stolen). Even though they're on the noisy side, I've still not swapped out the pups because it sounds and plays so well. The neck is set perfectly and the balance is far better than the Eppi. It's a shame they've been discontinued (I heard rumors of a lawsuit) best £95 I ever spent.
Reason n° 6: Currently the LP Rocktile is the best Gibson imitation.
(my first guitar was a Vox model Brian Jones, yellow color)
Reason #3 is so common nowadays :(
sad isnt it? people (that know about the brands) listen with the eyes very often.
I just play my Harleys on gigs and I couldn't care less. No way I'm bringing my Gibson to risk damaging it or having it stolen by some schmuck!
thank you! Now I`m sure I buy a second Harley Benton
Contrats man!! The world needs honest people like you are. The majority of the people (and musicians) can't say which is a very expensive or cheap guitar only by listening. Thank you.
I've got an ESP & Ibanez and they are 7 times more expensive but i really like playing my benton 62-mm a lot more than the other two. I do think my benton pickups are just a little bit too bright so maybe i will swap out the pickups and have superb instrument for me? I'm blown away at how good this guitar is for the price i paid.
I love my cheap Squier P-bass so much more than my 1300 € Lakland!
It can be that the 'feeling' of an expensive guitar also makes you play better! However, I own a few guitars and only 1 is a big named guitar and that is a MIM Strat! Looked at a ton of Strat type guitars and this one stood head and shoulders tonally above the rest... It was just 'chance' that it's got Fender on the headstock! I play my 140 euro Cort differently to the Gibson Standard that my friend has but as far as playability and tone is concerned there is very little difference! At the end of the day, play what you want... Don't pay any heed to those big names! Harley Benton? No, I don't own one but have played one... Awesome guitar! Build quality? hmm but then seen Gibson's worse! For me, I bought my Cort CR200 GT after trying and rejecting a Gibson LP Studio... I do NOT need a Gibson... My Cort has it all AND more! :-)
interesting that mm strat.. I just got a squire with the two-point tremolo and three Duncan designed hotrails in it for two hundred something.... Awesome build and sound..... Chose it over a mm strat with the similar setup because it just felt and sounded better...
Great video - loved the humourous angle you took. People with more sense than money need to educate themselves and support the smaller brands that really care, and which provide much better guitars for a given price-point. Solar Guitars are a classic example - Ola is a legend!
Amazing review
You have a fine and amusing use of the English language.
Thinking of getting
Harley Benton Tube 15 Celestion
As my first tube amp for Blues Harmonica
We have similar needs when it comes to vintage tone and breakup
Yeah, I mean I got a HB SC-500 for a friend's birthday and he was totally 'yew' about it. I mean, the action was low and boring, he felt like he didn't even have to try hard enough, plus intonation spot on, totally no 'character'. It would also not stop ringing, who would want a guitar that rings out forever? He never talked to me since, I believe he has developed some kind of masochistic syndrome, he just plays it for hours whenever he gets the chance despite the fact it's such a horrible guitar, much worse than Epiphone, let alone a true Gibson. I totally regret cheaping down to 80 EUR instead of 800. It has cost me a friend, so others beware!
So, I totally agree with these reasons, I mean, you'll never get your credibility back after being spotted at a gig wielding a HB.
And the CS-24T series, who would even touch that? Why have to upgrade all that crappy hardware and pickups to your liking (cause yeah, it totally sucks out of the box, won't even make a sound by default) when you can get a genuine PRS and... well, do the same?
Not to mention the stupid telecasters they're making. They look awful without Fender across the headstock, why even pick them up? It's such a disgrace.
+andreil1234 totally agree! great comment! 😊
Good video. Very convincent. Excellent job.
Ariel Matamoros thank you!
where else can u get other than at HB a guthire charvel look alike with stainless steel frets roasted maple for 7x less (at least) than the actual price of the charvel
Hi Corey could help me find a HB white pearloid telecaster im in the UK many thanks and keep a rockin i enjoy your videos.
Buy What you want.....
As Long as it Sounds Good...
90% of the sound comes from the player, the rest is divided among guitar, effects and amp. But if you do look for details, you will get disappointed by cheap guitars. In my case, among my US made guitars, I have a Korean one (PRS SE). It sounds fine, but I had to change the nut and the tuners. Something that I didn't have to do with my others (just to make an example)
Hi from Spain again. I had a lot of other problems so I wrote to Johann Thomann and got a very positive response, they replaced the "B" stock model with a normal stock model. Kind regards, John.
love the video sir, love the humor, and love me some Harley Benton. Thanks again friend.
Big Mäh!
+KaeptnKeks BIG Meeeeeeh!
watch ' 5 reasons TO buy HB' and more of my HB reviews before you comment.....maybe 😊
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Love this list man. Pure satire and snark. Brands get in the way. It's wood and wire for Christ's sake. Who cares what it says, as long as you dig it? So many people just can't get this.
Right now I'm considering between Agile and a Benton guitar. Something to do some pup comparisons and have a good beater 7 string when I wanna keep my top tear Schecters and such at home.
Cheers!!!
What about as a mod platform?
Gibson? Fender? PRS? No Thanks...i love Bc Rich and Dean Guitars :D
I think the biggest problem is that Harley Benton guitars are simply cheap copies of some classics, nothing less, nothing more (and sometimes they are cheap ugly copies, which is very bad).
They try absolutely not to create something new or different. These instruments are made to let students get their first instruments, and then buy something better when they become more skilled. There's nothing wrong in doing so, but it is a bit limiting for them, they are condamned to the entry level instruments.
That said, if they do a copy of the Yamaha Pacifica I'll buy it instantly ;)
Luca Gambetta I'd say inexpensive not cheap.
you are right, I'm not a native english speaker and I used "cheap" to say "inexpensive"
Luca Gambetta kind of a bad point
that's not a bad thing, or specific to Harley Benton
classics are classics for a reason
You buy guitars to play them and you want the best you can afford so don't waste your $ on s piece of sh-t Harley Benton, that's totally idiotic
Yeah, no. They had a fanned-fret baritone electric guitar on offer last year. Which classic was that?
Hi from Spain. I enjoyed your video. Reason number 6 ! I received my SC550ii PAF in June 2022, unplayable, the nut slots so high even simple chords on the first three frets resulted in intonation problems which I had fixed by a local luthier at my cost. Both volume controls did not function, both tone controls did not function and finally the selector switch did not work. Sent it back on the 11th.July got it back 1st.August...and still the volume and tone controls don't work.They did replace the selector switch! Now I have to send it back again their quality control is poor. This SC550iiPAF however is potentially a great guitar, from a construction point of view the neck is perfect, the frets perfect and the balance of the guitar exceptional,I just hope they finally fix it!Kind regards,John.
I bought my first second hand HB jazzmaster a few days ago for 80€. I just replacing strings e play. Also I got an Amazing fender american tele and some other no-big-branded guitars and as far as the most important thing for me is getting better as musician and fun.
Is that a Bugera HD55 back there ? I have a Bugera Trirec and it is a phenomenal amp in every regard.
+Rich Firyn bugera v22 and yeah... its great!
Absolutely spot on. I don’t own one but I play in a Lizzy band and my band mate plays a white custom HB. Changed the pickups and tuners and it rocks!!
is that a harley benton fender vi in the back ground?
+Kevin Griffin yeah its the harley benton guitarbass
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Love your accent Bro! Especially when you said,"Reeelly Sheety"! LOL
is this one of HB,s newer 35???how's the neck profile??I ordered. sc-400 gold top n hope necks more 60,s...screw snobs....***black electrical tape over any name,been doing that for 40years plus...names are for headstones.🙌🗣️....I like to beat my guitars not screw them n dress them like lil dollies....
Is that white hollow body a harley??
I had a choice between one harley benton sc whatever or an agile al3100mcc or an agile al3010 and honestly after playing the agiles I'd pick either of them over the benton,on the Benton the frets felt like they weren't done from factory and were some cheap pos' and just everything about it to me I couldn't get into and couldn't like it almost no matter what. So I bought the agile al3100mcc
Is harley benton good for beginners?
good for anyone! if you receive one which got flaws you could return them.sometimes they need adjustments..so
you can ask us in my group whats wrong and we can figure it out.
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except HB makes a better one when they stop producing the old one. But I buy mostly value b stock from thomann. HB sc custom II vintage black that is 235 euros is 166 euros in b stock (I paid 164 for it). Now I am waiting when it arrives. Christmass and corona makes post offices a hellhole of backtracking of packages.
I even made a cheap Strat from one of those Chinese kits, it sounds like a Strat to me-good pups, I am looking at HB's too
Mal ne Frage...arbeitest Du bei Thomann oder wirst Du von Denen gesponsert ?
Nichts gegen HB Gitarren ..habe selber welche ...alles super...und klasse preisleistungs verhältniß...teilweise besser als manche Squire by Fender Klampfen.Obwohl ich jetzt postiv überrascht wurde von der preiswerten Squire Bullet Mustang...die ich mir dann auch gekauft habe. Humbucker klingen schön hell und wenn es sein muß auch rotzig aber lange nicht so dumpf wie bei einer Paula...diese Gibson Humbucker waren nie mein Fall.Die nächste die ich auf dem Kieker habe ist die HB RB600 die Ricky Copie..genau das richtige für meine Oldieband...Sound of the 60's.
One of my old bandmates bought a Gibson Flying V when they came out as an anniversary reissue 30 years or so ago and took a beating when he had to sell it. Even though it was in near mint condition, he didn't even get 50% of what it cost him....
This turned out to be a much different vid than what I expected. Very common sense suggestions instead of nit-picking. A big Thumbs Up from me!
+Don Hensley sounds like you made a bargain there! thanks!
+Cory Mura Oh, he *tried* to sell it to me, but I wouldn't have traded my 1979 Carvin DC150CM for ten of those Flying Vs. :-)
I've always had the opinion that women are like fine guitars.... When you are young and first starting out, you don't have a *clue* what you really want or need. With time and experience, if you are lucky, you find one that you want to take home for good. That doesn't mean you won't still, on occasion, walk into a music store and see one on display that you wish you could play once or twice. [Grin]
Sadly, my luck with guitars wasn't so good. I've been married 44 years but someone stole my Carvin (along with a bunch of my other equipment). I just hope that wherever she wound up, she is appreciated. After 20+ years of near daily use, the only thing I'd ever had to do was change strings. The action was just as good as the day I unboxed my order. Imo, the DC150 never got the respect it deserved.
Great (and funny) video! I got a big brand guitar but also a Harley Benton. Love both. Harley Benton are a bang for the buck and are really to be taken seriously.
Hi man. Good job on your videos. I have a question: I own a CST-24 Paradise flame and I was thinking about upgrading the pickups for a seymour duncan SH4-SH2 set. You think that would improve the guitar's tone?
+Gustavo Lcr its up to the taste of the player. i dig the Wilkinson bridge pickup very much.. so for you it could be an upgrade and for me a downgrade.
its trial and error 😊
Wow, I thought It would be a major improvement... To be honest I'm broke, sadly I've never tried any seymour duncan pickup... but I used to read many people saying that those pickups were the best improvement to any cheap guitar. I was ready to make an effort to buy a 140€ pickup set to get the best sound possible, but hearing that from you makes me wonder now... Is it possible that a 30 buck pickup like wilkinsons sound similiar or even better for someone than a 70 SD?
+Gustavo Lcr again. you pay for endorsers and for the name and the 'made in the USA' thing etc. so from the 70euro there is.. i don't know... 15 euro for the pickup.
SDs are good stuff sure but i like the Wilkinson really really much. don't compare prices and think 'it costs more.. it MUST be better'.
the rule should be 'what sounds good, sounds good'.
so it coupd be an improvement for you, but i had a lot of seymour duncans and will stay with these wilkinsons
Thanks mate. Keep the good work.
Wilkinson pickups sound like crap . Check into a great yet relatively inexpensive pickup company called Tonerider ,they make all different types of pickups and sound just as good or better then big name : times more expensive pickups . You tube them . I've installed several different sets of Tonerider since several of my guitars and they sound phenomenal now , great upgrade .
i have four harley bentons excellent guitars for the money my only complaint is the frets are a little scratchy but they clean up easy with no trouble at all...
When I am booked for a recording session and I can do it in my own studio I use only my Harley Benton 5 string bass, and because of its sound everyone believes me when I say it was a Warwick or Alembic.
This 279€ bass can roar like a custom shop Precision or growl like a Wal.
And it has the "fastest" neck I ever played!
Fantastic!
Absolutely fantastic!
thanx i liked your video
speaking for me, i tried Harley Benton guitars once or twice, & i didnt like it
BUT I MUST CONFESS : i didnt try long enough
& i have to tell u : i bought a Cort bass, i fell in love for the first second a put my hands on
i also bought some Chibson guitars ;-)
Well I haven't owned a Harley Benton, but I played the 8 string fanfret and it feels much better than Ibanez's that cost 3 times as much. Probably sounds worse, though, but you can always change the pickups. I'm seriously considering buying a HB tele/strat just to have a single coil 6 string to goof around with.
I own a PRS ,fenders, Jackson, a Kramer and several others. About a year ago I bought a HOUSE PRS copy and now I own 3 and have two more on order. That's how good they are for the price.
I just bought a Harley Benton TE--80 (Prince Mad Cat copy), I also added mods that I liked to it. I love the guitar, and yes I do have Fender, Gibson, and PRS guitars but my HB sounds just as good as any of the others, each having their own particular sound! Also the quality and finish of my HB TE-80 are excellent, I see nothing wrong with the brand.