Which Chicken is BETTER Cornish Cross Vs Heritage Breed Meat Birds

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  • @LumnahAcres
    @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +9

    Hand Hewn Farm 3 day Hog Harvesting Class in Oct @ Lumnah Acres and Turning it into hams, bacon sausage charcuterie and so Much More www.handhewnfarm.com/shop/lumnah-acres-complete-hog-harvest-workshop/

    • @annmarieolsenpacnw
      @annmarieolsenpacnw 7 років тому

      cant wait. are you in this fb group? facebook.com/groups/1017410888300255/

    • @savvy777333
      @savvy777333 7 років тому

      $350.00 for a class????? No thanks! I'll do my own research on the internet/ youtube.

    • @jimclaire7996
      @jimclaire7996 7 років тому

      I notice Olivia is left handed, great, in her right mind, (ha ha ha). Great idea adding fractions, adding, subtracting, division, journaling and writing all in a home lesson. The bonding between father and daughter is very impressive. I envy that! As a side line, your impressive videos contain a few tips here and there. Ideas like how much does it cost to raise a chicken. How much us the difference in the weights. How much more, (or less), weight? How is the taste, texture and quality of the meat? Which birds were happiest? Who would have thought of a bird being happy except a homesteader. Barred rocks, Icelandic and Cornish Cross, well addressed in the video. Thanks Al and all!! God bless.

    • @detroitmikeh5638
      @detroitmikeh5638 6 років тому

      Wish I lived closer

  • @dennisst.germaine3497
    @dennisst.germaine3497 7 років тому +13

    Love how you include Olivia in the process of raising your animals, harvesting, cost analysis, recording the whole process, and the discussion on the results. WOW that's an education! Most kids her age have NO knowledge of where their food comes from, how to handle & store it, or prepare it for consumption!?
    I know I keep saying this about you & Gina, what great parents you are and the continuity of your parenting of her, is exemplary!
    Your channel is a 'Gold Standard' for Modern Homesteading! I'm 66 years old and want to be adopted by you guys....I know a little too much, but I just love the job that you are doing.
    I think that the cornish meat birds are still very viable as a farmer's market, a local restaurant, or local food co-op. Both breeds were free ranged raised and not a 'food factory' commercial type. Of course this only a suggestion/thought, but if you are raising these animals for personal diet that's OK too. God Bless.

    • @welshharlequin7722
      @welshharlequin7722 7 років тому +3

      I just read what you wrote, and my words were similar to yours, but I swear I didn't look at yours first. lol. It is hard to not notice the education going on.

    • @atheanicholls2199
      @atheanicholls2199 7 років тому +4

      Dennis St.Germaine totally agree with you comment God bless you 👋

    • @dennisst.germaine3497
      @dennisst.germaine3497 7 років тому

      Welsh Harlequin I love this family and the channel Lumnah Acres, I don't want to sound like I'm patronizing, but their vlog I look forward to it everyday!

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      Thank you! Yes cornish are a good bird to raise too. I wonder if the Cornishes are different from different hatcheries too. That will be one to try next year.

    • @dennisst.germaine3497
      @dennisst.germaine3497 7 років тому +2

      Althea Nicholls I recognize your name as a regular viewer and a woman with Jesus in her heart! I PTL when "Modern Homesteader" post a vlog!

  • @LtColDaddy71
    @LtColDaddy71 4 роки тому +1

    That kid has grown so much the past few year! So cute!

  • @welshharlequin7722
    @welshharlequin7722 7 років тому +8

    Olivia, your dad is a funny, funny character. I like how he is requiring / requesting your assistance with the research. This is how women in science get started.....in the garden! :O) lol. You're basically doing school work, in real life. Very Cool.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      Lol, I will take that as a compliment. Believe it or not, Olivia was asking me all morning when we were going to start! She LOVES taking notes! Thank you!

  • @virginiareid5336
    @virginiareid5336 5 років тому +1

    I think that it is wonderful that you include Olivia in everything you do.

  • @bhsx
    @bhsx 7 років тому +6

    I'm always impressed with your little helper! You're not only doing a great job raising chicks, it seems you're doing pretty well with raising humans as well!

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +2

      Lol! Thanks! She sure loves to learn! I think that is one of the best things we can instill in our children is the magic of learning. That doesnt mean school. I love to learn but I am not good with school

  • @simidhel
    @simidhel 7 років тому +13

    Excellent. I was really keen to hear how they compared and it seemed to me that the Barred Rocks came out ahead in terms of being 3/5ths the weight per bird but 1/2 the feed, a lot cleaner, better tillers and it sounded like they also tasted better than the Cornish as well? Always nice seeing you spend quality time with Olivia and I liked her hat! :)

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +5

      Thanks, yes the taste was great and the fat was so yellow! Olivia was funny with wanting to wear that hat lately!

    • @lolorton
      @lolorton 7 років тому +2

      Lumnah Acres I like her hat

  • @davidjohnston1971
    @davidjohnston1971 7 років тому +15

    Very interesting comparison. The final average in weight between the two varieties, compared with the costs, sounds like it would be pretty close in cost per pound. The BRocks definitely look like they would be the tastier birds, that rich, yellow orange fat has to add a lot of flavor. At least visually. lol
    With the next lot of mixed breeds you'll add more to your data set as to which heritage breeds might be better overall. You might even try a fractional harvest as Joel suggests. 10 biggest birds one week, keep track of which breeds were biggest. The next week harvest 10 more, rinse and repeat over 3-5 weeks. You'd not only see if one breed proved superior, but also if the additional weeks provided a significant weight gain versus the labor and costs.
    I know from raising rabbits that the costs exceeded the gains after 10 weeks, as growth rates slowed. It will be an interesting time. Keep us up to date as it moves along. I also raised King pigeons for squab, and after 4-5 weeks you were throwing money away feeding the young. Thanks for sharing this.
    I love your sensible approach to homesteading, underestimate the first year, overestimate the next five. Grow as you can absorb the workload and costs.
    What a great day working with Miss Livvy, fractions, averages, and quality time with Dad.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +7

      Thanks! Yes the next batch of birds is going to be fun. And we will harvest them in batches according to there size. I love learning and teaching with Livvies!

  • @brucealvarez9263
    @brucealvarez9263 4 роки тому +1

    I know this video is over 2 years old but if you are still reading comments on old videos you might try the White Rocks, they are (according to the Meyer Hatchery website) 1.5 pounds heavier than the Barred Rocks. I have both for layers and both lay very well.

  • @jennipettengill2434
    @jennipettengill2434 2 роки тому

    I stumbled upon you while searching through heritage meat chickens. I’m concerned about the latest bird flu and how it will affect chick availability. I decided it was time to invest in a sustainable meat bird. I ordered 50 Delaware broilers. I appreciate your video very much as I was feeling nervous that they wouldn’t be as good as the Cornish cross. I’m feeling very good now! Thank you!

  • @Duncan1900Homestead
    @Duncan1900Homestead 7 років тому +3

    I love my orpingtons, their a good dual purpose chicken. Great job Olivia! I love it when people include their children in the learning process.

  • @tracyhayward1920
    @tracyhayward1920 5 років тому +1

    I love these older videos where you all sit and talk at dinner😉

  • @4559april
    @4559april 5 років тому +1

    Love your videos so educational. What a great family. You should put together a cookbook from Lumnah Acres.

  • @Windyhillfarm71
    @Windyhillfarm71 7 років тому +1

    It's great to see you actually eat the chicken so that we was able to see your reaction to you liking it or not, I think it is clear you liked that chicken over the Cornish . That is great information for me and my wife cause we are just starting out homesteading.

  • @Mendingheartshomestead
    @Mendingheartshomestead 5 років тому

    It was actually in part because of this video that I decided to try 4 breeds for meat last year. I raised Cornish cross, barred rock, red ranger, and a few Sagittas. My personal opinion; the Cornish cross are biggest and most tender, but the smaller birds are perfect for a meal for my two sons and myself. The older birds were understandably and not surprisingly less tender, but boy, do they taste good! The barred rocks have the darkest meat as well. I’m going to mix together the meat from a red ranger and two barred rocks to make meatballs for the Super Bowl tomorrow! Thank you for helping to inspire my family through some dark times in our life!

  • @e.cahill9594
    @e.cahill9594 7 років тому +3

    Great job Olivia, you are helping your dad out, and learning at the same time! I have had an Instant Pot since March and have not used it yet..... I will try cooking a chicken, it won't be home grown like yours, or as good, but I will give it a try!

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      Thanks! Yes try it and then make chicken broth in it! You can have the broth done in under 3 hours start o finish! Its Crazy!

  • @DiannasHomestead
    @DiannasHomestead 7 років тому +1

    New Subscriber here🙋 I am new at raising chickens and I have six Plymouth Rock chicks and I'm glad to hear that we can use them for both egg-laying and meat😃 thank you so much for making these videos I am definitely learning a lot from you guys keep the videos coming I leave you with my support💖💅

  • @555666aaabbb
    @555666aaabbb 7 років тому +2

    Please do a video dedicated to some of your recipes! Can't get enough of the Instapot. Love it!

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      Thank you! The instant pot is amazing!

  • @simidhel
    @simidhel 7 років тому +2

    Congratulations on your having just reached 8,000+ subscribers! Very well deserved! :)

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +2

      Thank you! We must have just hit that when you commented! Lol We couldn't do it with out the Modern Steaders s yourself! Thanks

    • @simidhel
      @simidhel 7 років тому +1

      Lumnah Acres yeah, I added a screen shot of it on the tweet that I also added at the same time, about 30 seconds after I saw it tick over to 8k... ;)

  • @50shadesofgreen
    @50shadesofgreen 7 років тому +2

    Great update folks at Lumnah Acres !! Fantastic to see you eat any home grown meat, I bet it tastes awesome !! Great to see you two making school work fun !! You guys rock !! Thanks for sharing. Take care and God bless

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      Thanks Home cooked meals are the best!

  • @cliffordwilliams9597
    @cliffordwilliams9597 4 роки тому +1

    AAAAAHH I love this !! Hey Olivia !

  • @jchny00
    @jchny00 5 років тому +1

    I love extra roosters lol. If you free range the boys it really improves the meat flavor too. I do a a few dozen Cornish X every year but honestly nothing beats the heritage bird flavor.

  • @virginiareid5336
    @virginiareid5336 5 років тому +1

    Very interesting comparison. We always seem to learn as we go.

  • @portugeeprepper6821
    @portugeeprepper6821 7 років тому +5

    That's awesome that the barred rocks tasted great maybe I'll just do those next year instead of the Cornish, I'll make my final decision once I process the 4 barred rock roasters this weekend. Btw the instaPot is serious business, cooks a chicken in 20mins

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      Let us know how you like the barred rocks. The instant pot sure is crazy. We made chicken bone broth in under 3 hours it was nuts!

  • @lolorton
    @lolorton 7 років тому +2

    We did 18 weeks on our barred rocks and they were tough, had to make soup out of them. We don't have an instant pot, but flavor is good though. We haven't tried our cornish yet. fun video.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      Thanks! I think I am going to go to 16 weeks max on the heritage meat birds we are raising right now. Thanks for the info

  • @xobutterflyox72
    @xobutterflyox72 7 років тому +1

    saw your instant pot and seen it was essentially a pressure cooker saw one that was regularly 149.99 at macy's but was on sale with free shipping for 99.99 but I have a plenti card which had over 7000 points (thanks to buying a new cell phone) so I only paid 21 for it! gotta love deals! thank you for your videos I enjoy them

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      That is a great deal on the Instant pot! Glad you are enjoying the channel. What do you enjoy the most about it?

    • @xobutterflyox72
      @xobutterflyox72 7 років тому

      the fact that you show the reality of homesteading not the "glamorous" parts of it and even through it all you remain positive. I have learned a lot just by watching your videos. I always get sad when I think about having to dispatch animals but seeing it is possible to do so humanely I might give meat birds and home processing a chance and believe it or not another thing I have learned is organization of tools! loved your set up! you have had several great ideas that we are going to implement next year! we are wanting bees, a bountiful garden and pigs.

  • @Maxid1
    @Maxid1 6 років тому +1

    We had many 6 and even 9 lb birds. I wish I could remember what variety they were. But they were fat birds and not pasture raised. We had too many predators to let them run so they had to stay in the coop most of the time. We had a small exterior netted run but we had to be there, armed, when they were out. There's a very good chance they were Plymouths.

  • @glenncountry
    @glenncountry 5 років тому +1

    Im very late here but i have raised cornish cross roosters to 8 or 10 pounds at about 16 weeks. Very tender also.

  • @daddykirbs
    @daddykirbs 7 років тому +2

    I tried to raise the Red Freedom Rangers as a meat bird. They were fine, but they didn't breed well. They are terrible egg layers and the rooster doesn't do his job well. I think if I do my own farm hatched meat birds I will use one of the heritage breeds like the Barred Rock or Orphingtons. Nice video :)

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +2

      Thanks! We have 50 chicks in the basement we are raising for meat that are different heritage breeds it will be fun to compare them too

    • @sandyrees490
      @sandyrees490 6 років тому

      Lumnah Acres please share your findings. What will you raise this year?

    • @HomesteadOC
      @HomesteadOC 6 років тому

      We just started with buff orpingtons, got a nice rooster and some ok hens. Hoping to get some better blood in the mix, but so far theyre really friendly and great egg layers. Hopefully the meat is good.

  • @Psalm119-
    @Psalm119- 7 років тому +4

    Great job, love the tips!😊👍..good to note that after weighing birds that you can put a label on them with the weight and Type of bird. Thankyou God bless

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      Thank you! Great idea on the label!

  • @IslandZsurvivor
    @IslandZsurvivor 7 років тому +3

    i really liked the jedi brussel sprout mind trick..very effective!..thanks for the great vid!

  • @BullittMcQueen1
    @BullittMcQueen1 7 років тому +1

    If you have a few broody hens, you could put any fertilized eggs under those broody hens and allow them to raise the chicks. This is the easiest way.
    Good broody breeds are Cochin, Silkie, Light Brahma, Buff Oprpington and others.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      If we had some broody hens we would. We had one go broody this year and we let her sit on some eggs and she hatched out 5

    • @BullittMcQueen1
      @BullittMcQueen1 7 років тому

      I forgot that you have some Icelandic chickens. Those hens go broody. You will have to keep some of those Icelandic hens around. The Icelandic chickens are a little small for meat birds, though. You may also find a couple of pullets among the 51 chicks you ordered from the hatchery. You could keep those for eggs and breeding also.

  • @blissburn
    @blissburn 7 років тому +6

    Seeing Olivia hiding under that hat reminds me of Stacy from Off Grid with Doug and Stacy.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      Lol, I don't know why she decided to find the hats the other day. That's right it was raining out and didn't want to get her hair wet.

  • @ourislandacres6685
    @ourislandacres6685 7 років тому +2

    Thank you so much for this video! What breed to get for eating has been a debate around our house for a few months.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      Yw, we have the same debate. We have 51 chicks in the basement that are mixed heritage breeds we are going to raise for meat!

  • @BraxxJuventa
    @BraxxJuventa 7 років тому +2

    Hope you had a nice meal. Thumbs up Al and the family! :)

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      Thank you! It was delicious!

  • @jaimesbud81
    @jaimesbud81 7 років тому +1

    We are a family of four. We basically eat the same stuff just by looking at your pantry. My question to you is "what is your budget for groceries with the homestead"? I don't have a homestead yet. Maybe do a video over this question. Thank you very much. Great videos as well.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      That would be a great video! Thanks for the idea!

  • @8BitChickn
    @8BitChickn 7 років тому +2

    Awesome experiment! It sounds like the barred rocks are the way to go I wonder if Buff orpingtons would be better seeing they a little bit of a larger bird than the BRocks,

  • @mascatrails661
    @mascatrails661 7 років тому +2

    I'd love to see a comparison of barred rock vs red ranger. Might have to do it next spring.

  • @simpleandsavored9210
    @simpleandsavored9210 7 років тому +2

    Love the fridge cam! Should be interesting to see what the data says.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      Thanks! I was having fun with that

  • @batpherlangkharkrang7976
    @batpherlangkharkrang7976 5 років тому +2

    Thank you AL for sharing your video homestead chicken farmer garden bye 👋 bye 👋 👨‍👩‍👧👸👕👓🐩🐈🐔🐓🐥🐕🐖🐐🌱🏡🎥👍👍👍

  • @sweetheartsmom
    @sweetheartsmom 7 років тому +1

    I will be hatching 48 meat birds at time starting in sept. They will be a mix of barred rock Delaware rir and buff orp. glad you did this video

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      That is awesome! Let us know how it goes. What state do you live in?

    • @MrsStevenBrown
      @MrsStevenBrown 4 роки тому

      How did it go??

  • @farmerchick3040
    @farmerchick3040 3 роки тому

    I need an insta pot. Fall off the bone chicken in 20 min that's crazy. 👌 great job you should look into caponizing your roosters. They stay way more tender for meat. It takes some practice but once you get the hang of it it's pretty easy. And the roosters are much more tender and meaty when they get canonized.

  • @bethmurray1347
    @bethmurray1347 7 років тому +3

    Do you have a video on the chicken broth that I haven't found? Awesome journal tracking and taste testing. Thank you

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      Not yet we don't! We will next time we make a chicken! Thanks for the great idea. How would you like to see it made in the instant pot or crock pot?

    • @bethmurray1347
      @bethmurray1347 7 років тому

      I would love to see it in the instant pot. I've never heard of one before today on your show. Do you have a link for purchasing one? My husband & I think that was awesome the way you cooked that chicken.

  • @annmarieolsenpacnw
    @annmarieolsenpacnw 7 років тому +3

    this is similar to what i have found with rabbit. i have a heritage commercial meat breed (american chinchilla) that i think tastes better than new zealand (the gold standard in commercial meat breeds) and i let them go to 16 weeks instead of the 8 to 10 for the nz. at that point they are meatier and just tastier. rabbits dont eat much their first 4 weeks so there is barely and feed costs for an 8 week old rabbit. and really not that much more for a 16 week old rabbit esp if you forage for them which i do. they get a ton of whole plants (root, leaves and stems) from the garden and yard. if you could do a meat to bone ratio you would have more precise results. just weight all the met from each bird after you cook it. that wont be as accurate as uncooked weight but it should not be that far off and its easier. if you are estimating 2 meals for the BR and 3 meals fro the cornish thats like a 30% dif. did their food cost 30% more? was it enough to offset the better taste of the BR? the BR were also cleaner and they just seem healthier. thats a tough one. those cornish in the pot are so impressive with those meaty parts. great video.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      Thanks, we used 50% less feed on the barred rocks. We use to raise American Chinchilla rabbits for meat when we lived in MA. They were great animals!

  • @Guildbrookfarm
    @Guildbrookfarm 7 років тому +2

    Awesome experiment guys!!!

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      Thanks! We are raising 50 more chicks of various heritage breeds

  • @thecynic807
    @thecynic807 7 років тому +2

    I made a honey mustard chicken Saturday. I got the recipe off the Internet. Absolutely delicious

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      That sounds delicious! I bet Olivia would love it.

    • @thecynic807
      @thecynic807 7 років тому

      Lumnah Acres allrecipes.com/recipe/8734/honey-baked-chicken-ii/

    • @thecynic807
      @thecynic807 7 років тому

      Lumnah Acres I didn't do the melted butter

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      Thank you!

    • @thecynic807
      @thecynic807 7 років тому +1

      Lumnah Acres oh. I put plenty of black pepper in it. Honey and black pepper go great together.

  • @turkenqueen8970
    @turkenqueen8970 3 роки тому +1

    Hey! Sorry I'm a little late to the party here but I was curious how much longer you recommend growing the cockerels out? Thanks!

  • @brandonandkeiafink204
    @brandonandkeiafink204 2 роки тому

    Were your Barred rocks a mix of cockerels & pullets or just cockerels? My Hatchery barred rock hens are 26 weeks seem much smaller than the listed expected weight of 7.5 lbs. I also raised a batch of Dark Cornish roosters are 20 weeks old and the biggest weights 5 lbs 10 oz and they are listed as maturing at around 10 pounds. I butchered all but the 3 largest and the average carcass weight (after butchering) of the Dark Cornish roosters at 16 weeks old was 3 pounds 4 oz. This is to say 3.25 lbs carcass weight of a 13 week old Barred Rock seems amazing. Where did yours come from and were they all roosters? Also, did you feed them in a chicken tractor, let them free range, or in a dry run?

  • @jamesnelson4452
    @jamesnelson4452 7 років тому +2

    Livs cute, she looks so much like Gina with a lot of Dads talents

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      thanks they sure do look alot a like!

  • @danieldowning4583
    @danieldowning4583 7 років тому +1

    I be lovin the Poulsen Lumba shirt. They are great people to deal with for all types of lumba mista man. Nothin like that Uppa Notch life.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      Thanks! Were do you live?

    • @danieldowning4583
      @danieldowning4583 7 років тому +1

      We live in the Lakes Region of NH, but my family comes from Lincoln/Woodstock area just below the Notch. I'm the guy who's brother in law has a camp off Moore Dam. I mentioned Poulsen's Lumber because they supplied the materials for some of the work at the camp. Love your channel. Do you have or are you going to have a produce stand to sell from? If you do I will direct friends and family to buy from you when possible. Don't just keep the faith Brother, spread a little around too.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      That is awesome! the lakes region is a nice area. We won't be selling any produce this year but we do sell eggs. My first job when I moved to NH was working at the arctic cat snowmobile dealer in Lincoln

    • @danieldowning4583
      @danieldowning4583 7 років тому

      Very cool. When we are Uppah Notch we will contact you for eggs and be watch for your farm stand in the future. Love Al.

  • @atheanicholls2199
    @atheanicholls2199 7 років тому +3

    hi good afternoon beautiful family, hi Olivia great job, nice job Dad the homestead and farm is in good 👐 hands no doubt about that. hi Gina 😍 love always, good job with the harvesting of the birds. God bless beautiful family. 👍👍🐓🐔🐖🐷🍜🍴

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +3

      Thanks! The harvest has paid off! :)

    • @atheanicholls2199
      @atheanicholls2199 7 років тому +3

      Lumnah Acres Thats great you guys deserve it.

  • @SLFYSH
    @SLFYSH 7 років тому +1

    Enjoyed the comparison. Very valid points discussed beyond just weight of meat at the end. I can not yet have my chickens, but will soon. Have you considered the heritage breed American Dominique? If so, what made you decide on the similar looking barred rock over the Dominique, which is supposed to have been bred as a duel purpose with excellent foraging skills, and almost zero input from the farmer? Your input would be appreciated. Thanks.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      Thank you. No we have not given the American Dominique a thought or I try. But now I am giving it a thought. I wonder how much bigger they get from the barred rocks?

    • @SLFYSH
      @SLFYSH 7 років тому

      I don't know if they get any larger, but know they were developed during a time of meager subsistence farming where priority was placed on the birds economics, that didn't require feeding or much for protection. It is a heritage breed some are working to recover from limited numbers, rather than let them be lost due to all of the focus on factory farms. Another heritage breed I was looking at for foraging capability and egg production was the 'true' Rode Island Red. Most instances are some hybrid version up on production and down on foraging capability.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      We are raising the Icelandic chickens for those same reasons.

  • @JerryRMartin
    @JerryRMartin 7 років тому +2

    Do you use the bones for any particular purpose? I've been researching some on bone dust for the garden is the reason I ask.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      We use the bones to make bone broth. I bet the bone dust would be great. Think about all the minerals it would add! Especially if they are pasture raised

  • @candidethirtythree4324
    @candidethirtythree4324 7 років тому +2

    Ya'll are soooooo adorable!

  • @anniegaddis5240
    @anniegaddis5240 7 років тому +1

    Have you had Black Australorps? How did they taste, what was average frozen weight, were they a happy bird?

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      We have not had that breed, Hopefully we have a few in the 51 meat bird chicks we are raising now

    • @anniegaddis5240
      @anniegaddis5240 7 років тому

      What a wonderful blessing to be able to try out so many kinds!

  • @farmerchick3040
    @farmerchick3040 3 роки тому

    I've been crossing my black sexlinks with a fast growing huge brahma rooster and almost doubled the growth rate and size of my chickens. I then plan to cross the fastest growing biggest. I only keep the fastest growing rooster for breeding.

  • @harlocondo7643
    @harlocondo7643 7 років тому +1

    Can you raise these Cornish and Heritage birds on pasture only. No commercial feed at all.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      No they would need some kind of protein source

  • @rivkaflashner9640
    @rivkaflashner9640 7 років тому +1

    how long did you raise the barred rock chickens?

  • @mugahedmugahed1879
    @mugahedmugahed1879 7 років тому +1

    Cute and Smart Olivia.

  • @terribethreed8464
    @terribethreed8464 7 років тому +2

    A perfect meal!!

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      Thank you! We enjoyed it very much. We made chicken broth after too!

  • @terribethreed8464
    @terribethreed8464 7 років тому +2

    weren't your Cornish cross older when butchered?
    That would account for the extra weight per bird wouldn't it?

  • @andrewlafogg4041
    @andrewlafogg4041 7 років тому +3

    Did you remember to weigh the single one that you put directly in the freezer and didn't let sit in the refrigerator for 24-48 hours? Or at least mark it somehow to be able to tell the difference in taste? Big fan of your channel and a "what's up" from CT, if you ever need a hand with a certain project or two i would be glad to make the trip and help out. Im almost the same age as you Al and I love everything about your part of NH, been to Littleton many times for vacation. I like Cutters a lot eat to much fudge on the trip home lol.. Give a big hello to all of your 2 legged and 4 legged children they are all very famous, I can tell Pluto and Mr. Bigg's enjoy the attention.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      Thank you! I will keep that in mind. We have a hog Harvesting class that Hand Hewn Farm is Putting on In Oct. Here. I will pin the link to that in the comments!

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      Yes we kept that chicken in a different freezer so we will know. Thanks

  • @steadyhomegrown1445
    @steadyhomegrown1445 7 років тому +2

    This video made me hungry and it's only 7.30 AM 😉 Do you think you'll be raising Cornish X again or just heritage breeds from now on?

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +2

      Lol! I want to try raising some red rangers and maybe cornish x from a different hatchery and see if there is a difference. That will be next year. We have 51 heritage breed chicks in the basement for this year. What about you?

    • @steadyhomegrown1445
      @steadyhomegrown1445 7 років тому +2

      No meatbirds this year, we want some next year but the Cornish kind of disgust me so I am looking at other options. The problem is we don't have hatcheries like y'all do so I am limited in breeds I can get. We will be selecting our Brahma roosters for breeding in a couple of months and the ones that we don't want will probably end up in the freezer.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      I bet that would be a good market for you to get into hatching chicks and selling them. What do you have for heavy breeds over there? Germany Right?

  • @greenfish13
    @greenfish13 7 років тому +2

    Curious, was the chicken broth from a cornish hen?

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      Yes it was! The broth from the barred rocks is amazing! What till I have time to show that!

  • @1acrehomesteader43
    @1acrehomesteader43 4 роки тому

    So you butchered the Cornishes at 8-9 weeks and the BRocks at 13 weeks but yet, the Cornishes ate almost twice as much as the BRocks? That sounds really off.

  • @jameslemon51
    @jameslemon51 5 років тому

    Did you weigh the bones after eating each chicken breed. ? For final result.

  • @dorothykersey7848
    @dorothykersey7848 7 років тому +1

    Are you comparing the taste of a fresh never frozen chicken to the taste of a freezer chicken. I think the taste would be different just because of that. I like fresh turkey compared to frozen turkey for holiday meals.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      We had a cornish that was never frozen too. It was in the fridge for a day just like the Barred Rock was.

  • @russellraposa2461
    @russellraposa2461 7 років тому +3

    Less meat and bigger bones though you'll love red rangers

    • @russellraposa2461
      @russellraposa2461 7 років тому +2

      I have a family of 5 and one bird one meal . My heavy breed birds didnt do the trick . But red rangers tasted just as good but much more meat . Way better than my Cornish x

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      I wanted to try them, but the hatchery was sold out :(

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      Thanks! We will have to try that next year!

  • @brianphilbrook5262
    @brianphilbrook5262 7 років тому +1

    Oh yea they don't get as big or grow as fast but I don't think I'll ever raise anything other than heritage for meat 👍

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      I cant say as I blame you! :)

  • @lastniceguy1
    @lastniceguy1 7 років тому +2

    7 almost gone. Here comes #8 ;o)

  • @131dyana
    @131dyana 5 років тому

    great day.

  • @pennyhorstkamp1851
    @pennyhorstkamp1851 7 років тому +1

    Where the second batch frozen, if so they would be heavier? This would throw out some of your figures wouldn't if?

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      Why would they be heavier?

    • @aslmad1
      @aslmad1 7 років тому

      penny horstkamp the density changes, not the weight

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      Good to know! Thanks

  • @JavalinCockers
    @JavalinCockers 7 років тому

    Loved the comparison on these two very different chicken breeds. We raise another heritage breed, Dominiques. Although they take a bit longer to reach good weights compared to the Plymouth Barred rocks, the flavor they bring to the table is well worth the extra time. Kudos to you for showing the advantages of a sustainable breed. Hoping you saved a few of your Rocks for reproduction so you are not having to order them from another source. Sustainable rocks! uponcedarknoll.homestead.com/

  • @jameslemon51
    @jameslemon51 5 років тому

    Rerun. Click bait really sucks. Thanks Al for click bait

  • @basajjangolawrence8224
    @basajjangolawrence8224 7 років тому +1

    Olivia is great in mathematics

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      Thanks! Oliva loves learning and school!

  • @ditmagiknietvergeten
    @ditmagiknietvergeten 6 років тому

    Okay let me.count with you...
    The 12 BR average out on 3,25 pounds = 1475 grams
    And the (22-6) 16 Cornish averidge at 5 pounds thats 2270 grams per bird... thast a 1.75 pound difference is 794 grams
    So from Cornish point of few the Br weight 35% less and from the BR point of view the Cornish weigh 54% more...
    The BR you can hatch so that's the cost of the eggs thats you otherwise would eat and a dozen organic pasture raised eggs averidge at 4 dollar! and the electriciry it takes to hatch (1 or 36) 12 birds costs 1.21 dolar ( national averidge costs for 21 days running incubator...) plus 4 for 1 dozen eggs is $ 5.21 for 12 barred rocks.
    12 Cornish chicks cost I think you said about 2 dollar each right? (Or where that other birds?) so let's say 2 dollar each is 24 dollars. For the same amount of chicks. To be fair.
    The breeder and heat is the same... but Cornish need more often changing ..so bedding is twice as much....
    Base costs:
    Br $ 5,21 vs C. $ 24
    =Br $ 18,79 cheaper. = 460%
    Bedding first few weeks:
    Br vs C. 50% more
    Feed:
    you said you fed 5 scoop in the morning and 3 at night with the 22 Cornish plus 13 barred rocks.. .. that's 8 scoops a day.
    The br got 3 schoops a day. And didn't even eat all of it. The last 5 weeks...
    8 scoops x 7 days x 8 weeks = 448 scoops of grain ÷ 22= 20 scoops per Cornish chicken in it's live.
    3x7x12= 252 scoops ÷ 13 = 19 scoops per barred rock in it's live..
    Idk how much a scoop weigh or costs but thats 196 scoops less then the Cornish that's 78% more....
    but if you averidge it out per bird.. it's 19 for 12 weeks br and 20 scoops per Cornish for 8 weeks. That's 1 schoop diff per bird in it's live... so it seems that the Cornish eat twice as much but you had almost twice as much Cornish in the coop. 22 Cornish and 13 br.
    You have 2 meals per bird from the BR and 3 from the Cornish
    That's equals 33% more meals from Cornish...
    To get the same amount of meals you have to raise 1/3 more barred rocks.
    So fill in the blanks.
    hatching BR vs buying chicks
    = 460 % more expanse for Cornish.
    Bedding is 50% more for cornish.
    Feed is 5% more for Cornish.
    For 33 more meals per bird...
    buying Cornish is more expensive! bedding cost more! and feed cost 5% more....that for 54% more meat..
    But 1. that Cornish meat is more stressed grown way to quick that the chicks don't even had enough energy to grow all their feathers..
    2. they ate way more grain then grass so I would say br are healthier and happier chickens and that make you healthier and happier.
    And barred rocks are "renuable"... since you can breed them and hatch them yourself.
    Ps funny thing is after calculating i came to the conclusion they do not eat twice as much with 22 Cornish and 13 barred rocks in 1 coop (or did you had more br in the coop and only saved 13 for yourself
    (Also you forgot that Gina put 1 in the freezer you didn't weigh that one 😉)
    But all in all with the BR tatsing good and bieng tender..
    I think br are a better choice for your fam.
    Thanks for sharing and kudos if you made it through my calculations lol
    Kind regards rose

    • @ditmagiknietvergeten
      @ditmagiknietvergeten 6 років тому

      Okay amendment I just saw you saved 6 chick to sell them that means that you had 22 Cornish and 19 barred rocks. And that means the feed is indeed more then I calculated the first time.
      Do over
      BR vs Cornish was a 1.75 pound difference That = 794 grams
      So from Cornish point of few the Br weight 35% less and from the BR point of view the Cornish weigh 54% more...
      The BR you can hatch so that's the cost of the eggs thats you otherwise would eat. a dozen organic pasture raised eggs averidge at 4 dollar! and the electriciry it takes to hatch (1 or 36) you had 12 +1 in the freezer + 6 left in the coop=19 birds costs 1.21 dolar ( national averidge costs for 21 days running incubator...) plus $ 4 for 1 dozen and 2,33 for the other 7 eggs is $ 6,33+1.21 = 7,54 for 19 barred rocks.
      19 Cornish chicks cost I think you said about 2 dollar each right? (Or where that other birds?) so let's say 2 dollar each is 38 dollars. For the same amount of chicks. To be fair.
      The breeder and heat is the same... but Cornish need more often changing ..so bedding is twice as much....
      Base costs:
      Br $ 7,54 vs C. $ 38
      =Br $ 30,46 cheaper. = 403 %
      Bedding first few weeks:
      Br vs C. 50% more
      Feed:
      you said you fed 5 scoop in the morning and 3 at night with the 22 Cornish plus 19 barred rocks.. .. that's 8 scoops a day.
      The B.R. got 3 schoops a day. And didn't even eat all of it. The last 5 weeks...
      8 scoops x 7 days x 8 weeks = 448 scoops of grain ÷ 22= 20 scoops per Cornish chicken in it's live.
      3x7x12= 252 scoops ÷ 19 = 13 scoops per barred rock in it's live..
      Idk how much a scoop weigh or costs but thats 196 scoops less then the Cornish that's 78% more....
      but if you averidge it out per bird.. That's 7 schoop diff per bird in it's live...thats 53% more...
      You have 2 meals per bird from the BR and 3 from the Cornish
      That's equals 33% more meals from Cornish...
      To get the same amount of meals you have to raise 1/3 more barred rocks.
      So fill in...
      buying Cornish is more 403% more expensive! bedding cost 50% more! and feed cost 54% more....that for 54% more meat..
      (What are the odds that number would be the same??)
      But 1. that Cornish meat is more stressed grown way to quick that the chicks don't even had enough energy to grow all their feathers..
      2. they ate way more grain then grass so I would say br are healthier and happier chickens and that make you healthier and happier.
      And barred rocks are "renuable"... since you can breed them and hatch them yourself.
      Ps funny thing is after calculating i came to the conclusion they do not eat twice as much with 22 Cornish and 13 barred rocks in 1 coop (or did you had more br in the coop and only saved 13 for yourself
      (Also you forgot that Gina put 1 in the freezer you didn't weigh that one 😉)
      But all in all with the BR tatsing good and bieng tender..
      I think br are a better choice for your fam.
      Thanks for sharing and kudos if you made it through my calculations lol
      Kind regards rose

  • @jameslemon51
    @jameslemon51 5 років тому

    Cornish wins yet cost factor equals bardrock wins

  • @squizzyicetea
    @squizzyicetea 2 роки тому

    I also like that heritage breed birds come with far fewer medical problems common since they aren't bread just take it big quickly. I would much rather have an animal that takes longer to flush out that is a happy animal then one that is fat and sad

  • @nuduo9255
    @nuduo9255 7 років тому +1

    She can read a scale wow and she knows "fraction." How old is she? [13:25, "were*."

  • @francislambert5189
    @francislambert5189 4 роки тому

    It appears that you have it all down...Cool..! Peace:)

  • @Jwayne1020
    @Jwayne1020 3 роки тому

    how can I get one of those hoodies?

  • @SuperKingslaw
    @SuperKingslaw 6 років тому

    Have you all ever raised any chickens that did not taste good (either taste or texture)?

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  6 років тому +1

      No. 😂 some better then others

  • @ssnidely
    @ssnidely 7 років тому +1

    have you figured out price per lb?

  • @DesignsByRareBeauty
    @DesignsByRareBeauty 5 років тому

    💕

  • @helenhelps9619
    @helenhelps9619 3 роки тому

    👍 👍

  • @dpower02
    @dpower02 7 років тому +1

    Why do Modern Homesteaders wear hats when eating at the table? Don't you have a place to take outside hat, coat and boots off at the door? Hats were not allowed at the table at home and most hats were not wore inside at all, it must be a local thing.

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      Lol! I should start taking it off inside! Where are you from?

  • @evephillips6701
    @evephillips6701 7 років тому +1

    Good turn out of the chicken weight...they're hefty birds....Olivia and her pretty cap she's a lefty like my G'daughter....Good crock chicken for dinner....Luv mine spicier....Bye

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому +1

      Thanks! Yup she is a leftie! What spices do you use?

    • @evephillips6701
      @evephillips6701 7 років тому +1

      Along with the seasoning you used....I'd add 'onion/chives...herbs thyme...marjoram...sage...bayleaf...Then spices turmeric which gives it a nice rich yellow colour...cayenne pepper...paprika....All natural and optionalYou and Gina could try adding various ones for fun dinners

    • @LumnahAcres
      @LumnahAcres  7 років тому

      Thanks! That sounds a little too hot for us! :)

  • @botabob
    @botabob 7 років тому +1

    It taste like chicken....hehe