I’m the complete opposite. As a CS major watching the professor live code or discuss 0s and 1s is so mundane that 10 minutes into class I’m dozing off. I’m way more productive when reading the text book or watching CS UA-cam vids.
But ask yourself the question... are you actually doing study during the time the lecture is running? Doing your own revision by reading and watching is just basic revision everyone should be doing. Watching later at 1.5-2x speed because you learn better that way already puts you behind the person who just went to the class at 1x speed, and is now a lecture ahead and is revising while you're just learning. I'm saying this as someone who has 50% of their classes with scores over 90%.
@@islandsociete Thanks for the advice? The way I study is completely dependent on the class, professors, and difficulty. If it’s difficult I read the book, if the class records the lectures I rewatch them to catch anything I may have missed, if the professor isn’t good I read the book, and if the class is straight forward I’ll just study the lectures notes. I have a 3.75GP and all A’s in my classes(as now) which is pretty much expected as a CS major but my grades may or may not slightly drop bc of the level of difficulty of the finals.
I don’t necessarily agree with this. Not everyone will do it the way you did. Everyone has different learning conditions that would be optimal for their learning. Learning not to procrastinate is an important skill too. I didn’t learn that until I went to grad school.
yeah man im doing full time all online right now. dont get me wrong its hard af and a butt ton of reading, but i have all As and im ahead by about a week.
I think if you are watching lectures later at 1.5-2x speed because it's optimal, you are already behind the person who was at class at 1x speed. If you have an optimal learning environment, you can still do that AND go to class. Most people I know skipping lectures are not really studying in that same time.
lol I only went to the classes I needed to, my last semester. It depends on the person and subject honestly. my worst subject is math and I failed by going to every lecture in a 5-credit math course. second time around I taught myself with online videos and passed. I think the main takeaway is that you have to be serious about studying. regardless of whether you show up to lectures or not. work smarter
Yeah you can't make the blanket statement that you'll barely learn anything, because you can absolutely learn a ton via online lectures. I'm guessing the difference in perception is just a difference in learning styles though.
I excelled by not attending lectures. The two hour spent listening is better spent actively engaging the material. Originally my method required me to use office hours to understand difficult concepts and thankfully i never had to use it. Print lecture slides, reading 20 minutes, Actively engage concepts without taking notes 1h and more, note taking to commit to memory. No flash cards just clear notes. I found it gets easier with time to eventually finishing off 3 lecture's worth of material in one 12 hour work day (exhausting).
Depends on the person. I get burnt out and hate the rigidity of scheduled classes. I much prefer to dedicate hours to a class and get chunks of it done once or twice a week instead of the classic rigid weekly structure. God forbid you get a prof who opens stuff up weekly on an online class.
Bro this is not true, I did entire f*king IT degree fully online, Only the exams were physical , yes It might be very hard but sure it's doable. Dedication is the key
For real. I don't really learn much when taking everything online. I feel like its best when a prof or a teacher explains everything and show everything how its done.
everybody has a different strategy. But I agree with you attending those tech lectures unless prof is boring as hell and he just reads through all presentations
I am the opposite because I always felt like I couldn't pay attention during class due to having to take notes so fast. Video classes were the best because I could rewatch as many times as needed, and everything made more sense.
Yep, having the mindset to not skip a single class means that you stay on top of everything, and listening at normal pace means it processes better. Also it means you are more productive. Like if you're watching lectures later on 2-3x speed, then you are already behind the person who already was at the class at 1x speed. Like while you are catching up, they are either already doing tutorial questions, revision, more work on assignments or preparing for next class. They may even be just chilling out like you were doing when you skipped class!
Couldn't agree more. Im in college right now and skipping classes is an addiction. I'm glad I've learnt, but I'll never be able to fully achieve what I could have
I'm so glad I'm currently taking all my classes in person when I entered college. I was getting bad grades sophomore year in high school during the pandemic. Worst year in my life!!!!
I graduated with a degree in graphic design and my last two years of school were moved to online. I had good grades but I procrastinated soooo much that I barely learned anything. A year has passed and I haven’t found work bc of poor preparation. I ended up going back to school for a higher degree and do go to in person classes again
As a parent of 3, the online courses were a godsend for me. I learned a lot during that time and never fell behind my studies. Weed out the stuff that isn't important in your life.
I only use online videos as a mean of self learning at home if i still do not understand smth, but i think its better to ask the professor if you have difficulties.
I failed in Seneca college as international student coz of online lectures, went in person again and got 3.8 gpa but in another in person program. This is real.
Its balance. I think if you dont take anything in person then online would be it for you. My brain changed as i went into college and i need structure.
It also depends on how to college did the online courses. Some of them are good. Some of them are very terrible. I was in highschool and canvas online was terrible
I like hearing this from a computer guy. Seems like a lot of people think online is a better option. I like teaching in-person better than online, myself.
Good advice. Speaking as the pot smoker engineer who'd show up to half their classes late while skipping the other half, it took me 9+ years to get an undergrad in chemical engineering after having dropped out of my first college, redo everything at community college, and finally finish university. What I learned was that I was paying for all these courses via loans, which costed literally hundreds of USD per class. College = your time + your money.
Currently wrapped in this exact predicament now. I started off freshman year as a CS major with a concentration in cybersecurity (I want to work as a sys admin, the only other concentration was game dev) and my concentration got cut (it was a liberal arts school, only cheap college in the area) anyway, I transfer to an online school under the cis major but the curriculum is dogshit and doesn't cover any relevant skills for sys admins (active directory, powershell). outside of basic networking. So for the past 2 years I've been either bullshitting or semi-bullshitting these courses.
How did you measure your learning? How did your professors measure your learning? Do you feel either were accurate? How can you back this up? Or is it just your feeling?
University is all about self discipline, I’m sure they told every student in uni or college in there first year degree on orientation day. The teachers won’t be like high school whooping ur ass, telling you off or sending emails to ur parents or give detention unable to complete to work provided and most of teachers and professors don’t care to teach you but they can specifically tell you the question and guide u like giving dot points of what to write and elaborate more on but won’t help in increasing grade for example if you don’t know how to use excel to create a table or graph with the given data the teachers mostly won’t help or teach you all they say is “watch videos on UA-cam on tutorials” . Personally, I took 2 hour lectures too lightly, I underestimated how much information they provide and how all this information is crucial to provide understanding to assignments, test and exams
If you're watching lectures later on 2x speed because it's "ideal", then you are already behind the person who already was at the class at 1x speed and is now revising while you are just learning😏
No bro, everything is a habit. I’m getting an online degree and first course was really difficult to be able to concentrate by myself BUT now I’m very productive and I work while I’m on the second year of my bachelors.
Never skip classes because u think you can self study. There are many things teachers speak in class outside of the textbook which you will be missing out.
As a CS student , I can guarantee you! , If you got self discipline and Passion for the computer and off course college marks don't matter you , There is nothing you can't learn by yourself
Some lecturers just can't teach even though they are really good in that field. for instance, a Chinese person who gets graduated from a top tier university in china teaching you algorithms or database in the UK. it's very hard to understand them. There might be few people who can teach it better than the others but the majority are just not good enough.
my uni is online, I go to virtual uni in pak and the uni is online u only have to go to uni to go for exams , finals and mids, all the lectrures and quizzes are done from home on a learning system
Hey, I hope you are well. I was watching you UA-cam videos and planning to buy a Macbook air, confused between M1 16 256 or M2 8 256? Also want to know can we use Sql, Tableau and PowerBi on it?
just get the highest you can afford, BUT absolute minimum storage should be 512GB, but really 1TB is comfortable. 256GB has often led me to constantly needing to delete storage, and then buy an external SSD.
SQL and Tableau can be used directly on Mac, PowerBI is only for windows, BUT you can use a virtual desktop (e.g. Parallels) to run Windows and thus PowerBI (however running a virtual desktop is not optimal and runs slower, and takes up like over 30+ GB in storage when you have all your applications installed).
Online Degree are cheap it is the future of Education. Infact degrees are obsolete nowadays. You can learning anything online. Skills are important degree is of not use.
I agree going in person is always better if that's available to you. But I think computer science requires a sort of military attitude during the semesters. You really just need to tell everyone, including yourself, this is my life until the semester is over. If you can't hack 15 hour days of study and no weekends it's just not for you.
My going for a program which is binded together with computer engineering technology and computer science Is it gonna be worth it, also how challenging is it going to be to strike a balance
or you just take full online and do everything yourself instead of doing remote. That way you do everything when and where you want and learn everything more efficiently
well that was YOUR work ethic being very unbalanced. me on the other hand prefer online classes, and i always stay a week ahead of assignments, so i can practice any additional coding/related concepts on my own time.
Yeah nah this doesn't apply to everyone, we all have different ways to effectively absorb knowledge. I have a tendency to lose focus really easily in physical lecture classes, I already knew from the first day it just wasn't going to do it for me. The following classes I had skipped, watched online recordings, practice the exercises and complete assignments given to us, and self-study with the help of online resources and UA-cam, and Istill got a HD for my classes, and this is coming from a Comp Sci major who hates Comp Sci. A word of advice would be to not feel pressured to conform to the norms everyone tells you, find the methods that you're most comfortable with, helps you stay efficient, and produces the best results for you. The only things you need is consistency, self-discipline, and an open mind. Also be sure to take breaks away from your study space :)
This isn't a bad take but i think the thing which is missing is this: Why is it important to take offline classes? At University one as a student shouldn't just be focusing to study but to understand and potentially begin their career pathways In an offline setting not only will you be learning but there will (well should ideally be) constant rapport between students and professors about topics being taught creating a good connection between the student and the professor WHICH GOES OUT OF THE WINDOW when running cramming sessions to study, not mentioning how bad it is to cram in a understanding heavy subject like CS But all of this is ofc with the assumption that the professor is able to setup an environment where this kind of activity can happen, if it's a professor who just reads off slides, yeah better just go online and 3x lectures or better yet learn actual content from edutainment channels
I don’t agree with this, if a person doesn’t have any self-discipline or consistency, then for sure they need to agree with you. But if that’s not the case, then there’s no need to waste your time like that, you can learn much more by yourself.
You just need a good self-discipline pal. Self-discipline
Computer d/ courses day & bigh
I’m the complete opposite. As a CS major watching the professor live code or discuss 0s and 1s is so mundane that 10 minutes into class I’m dozing off. I’m way more productive when reading the text book or watching CS UA-cam vids.
This late but man😂 I think we the same, do you also learn better self studying?
But ask yourself the question... are you actually doing study during the time the lecture is running? Doing your own revision by reading and watching is just basic revision everyone should be doing. Watching later at 1.5-2x speed because you learn better that way already puts you behind the person who just went to the class at 1x speed, and is now a lecture ahead and is revising while you're just learning. I'm saying this as someone who has 50% of their classes with scores over 90%.
@@islandsociete Thanks for the advice? The way I study is completely dependent on the class, professors, and difficulty. If it’s difficult I read the book, if the class records the lectures I rewatch them to catch anything I may have missed, if the professor isn’t good I read the book, and if the class is straight forward I’ll just study the lectures notes. I have a 3.75GP and all A’s in my classes(as now) which is pretty much expected as a CS major but my grades may or may not slightly drop bc of the level of difficulty of the finals.
I’m almost certain you are the one kid in college with zero Friends and probably the lowest grades
@@Que_tii your cool
I don’t necessarily agree with this. Not everyone will do it the way you did. Everyone has different learning conditions that would be optimal for their learning. Learning not to procrastinate is an important skill too. I didn’t learn that until I went to grad school.
Yeasssss
same here i fall asleep in real classes idk why but when im alone i can focus and actually study none stop
100% agree!
yeah man im doing full time all online right now. dont get me wrong its hard af and a butt ton of reading, but i have all As and im ahead by about a week.
I think if you are watching lectures later at 1.5-2x speed because it's optimal, you are already behind the person who was at class at 1x speed. If you have an optimal learning environment, you can still do that AND go to class. Most people I know skipping lectures are not really studying in that same time.
lol I only went to the classes I needed to, my last semester. It depends on the person and subject honestly. my worst subject is math and I failed by going to every lecture in a 5-credit math course. second time around I taught myself with online videos and passed. I think the main takeaway is that you have to be serious about studying. regardless of whether you show up to lectures or not. work smarter
Some degrees are completed entirely online and have good curriculum it’s more along the lines of “you get what you give”.
Yeah you can't make the blanket statement that you'll barely learn anything, because you can absolutely learn a ton via online lectures. I'm guessing the difference in perception is just a difference in learning styles though.
Which online uni would you recommend???
It's important to remember that this advice doesn't apply for everyone. For some, the online only worked better.
This is BOGUS. Most online programs require you to submit assignments and/or post on discussion boards weekly. You literally *CANNOT* fall behind.
You’d be surprised. I can fail anything
I excelled by not attending lectures. The two hour spent listening is better spent actively engaging the material. Originally my method required me to use office hours to understand difficult concepts and thankfully i never had to use it.
Print lecture slides, reading 20 minutes,
Actively engage concepts without taking notes 1h and more, note taking to commit to memory. No flash cards just clear notes. I found it gets easier with time to eventually finishing off 3 lecture's worth of material in one 12 hour work day (exhausting).
Depends on the person. I get burnt out and hate the rigidity of scheduled classes. I much prefer to dedicate hours to a class and get chunks of it done once or twice a week instead of the classic rigid weekly structure. God forbid you get a prof who opens stuff up weekly on an online class.
Depends on the person!!
Agreed
This is exactly why I want to go in person instead of online
Bro said it word to word, PERFECT video,101℅ True.
This message was very much needed! Thank you kind Sir for sharing.
God bless your sweet soul. 😊
Facts …. I don’t know how people don’t show up because the books and videos don’t answer all the questions to complete a program
Bro this is not true, I did entire f*king IT degree fully online, Only the exams were physical , yes It might be very hard but sure it's doable. Dedication is the key
Have you graduated now? And if so how are you job prospects? I’m also currently in college for IT
Where did you graduate from?
Chill broham 😂
@@miscreatedmonster2.022😐
Where you at now?
For real. I don't really learn much when taking everything online. I feel like its best when a prof or a teacher explains everything and show everything how its done.
everybody has a different strategy. But I agree with you attending those tech lectures unless prof is boring as hell and he just reads through all presentations
I am the opposite because I always felt like I couldn't pay attention during class due to having to take notes so fast.
Video classes were the best because I could rewatch as many times as needed, and everything made more sense.
You're not wrong, i was skipping lectures long before they were avail online, and my grades totally reflected it..
Yep, having the mindset to not skip a single class means that you stay on top of everything, and listening at normal pace means it processes better. Also it means you are more productive. Like if you're watching lectures later on 2-3x speed, then you are already behind the person who already was at the class at 1x speed. Like while you are catching up, they are either already doing tutorial questions, revision, more work on assignments or preparing for next class. They may even be just chilling out like you were doing when you skipped class!
Boring, dark, and cold lecture halls are a recipe for a nice nap 😴
Man, I pick a day out of the week where know one disturbs me and I go to town. Plenty of time to do my thing
Just got into the hostel and my classes are going to start in a few days , getting too much tensed , but I hope I'll figure it out
Couldn't agree more. Im in college right now and skipping classes is an addiction. I'm glad I've learnt, but I'll never be able to fully achieve what I could have
I still feel like i learned nothing after an in person class because the sheer anxiety of needing to pass is overwhelming. Making you forget more .
I'm so glad I'm currently taking all my classes in person when I entered college. I was getting bad grades sophomore year in high school during the pandemic. Worst year in my life!!!!
I graduated with a degree in graphic design and my last two years of school were moved to online. I had good grades but I procrastinated soooo much that I barely learned anything. A year has passed and I haven’t found work bc of poor preparation. I ended up going back to school for a higher degree and do go to in person classes again
As a parent of 3, the online courses were a godsend for me. I learned a lot during that time and never fell behind my studies. Weed out the stuff that isn't important in your life.
I went to every class I just need to work on not getting distracted and watching UA-cam the whole time.
I went to some coding lectures and didn’t learn anything did some online courses and learn a lot it’s how discipline you!
What courses and do you get like certificates
Which online learning website
Please do reply
Do you work now
I only use online videos as a mean of self learning at home if i still do not understand smth, but i think its better to ask the professor if you have difficulties.
I failed in Seneca college as international student coz of online lectures, went in person again and got 3.8 gpa but in another in person program. This is real.
wait till he heard about asynchronous courses… you go at your own speed 🤯😂
I love your english accent❤wow just perfect👏👏
Tell me you didn't do much during the semester without telling me you didn't do much during the semester.
So true!
Its balance. I think if you dont take anything in person then online would be it for you. My brain changed as i went into college and i need structure.
It also depends on how to college did the online courses. Some of them are good. Some of them are very terrible. I was in highschool and canvas online was terrible
I like hearing this from a computer guy. Seems like a lot of people think online is a better option. I like teaching in-person better than online, myself.
Good advice. Speaking as the pot smoker engineer who'd show up to half their classes late while skipping the other half, it took me 9+ years to get an undergrad in chemical engineering after having dropped out of my first college, redo everything at community college, and finally finish university. What I learned was that I was paying for all these courses via loans, which costed literally hundreds of USD per class. College = your time + your money.
Currently wrapped in this exact predicament now. I started off freshman year as a CS major with a concentration in cybersecurity (I want to work as a sys admin, the only other concentration was game dev) and my concentration got cut (it was a liberal arts school, only cheap college in the area) anyway, I transfer to an online school under the cis major but the curriculum is dogshit and doesn't cover any relevant skills for sys admins (active directory, powershell). outside of basic networking. So for the past 2 years I've been either bullshitting or semi-bullshitting these courses.
great video
REMINDER 🎗️
How did you measure your learning? How did your professors measure your learning? Do you feel either were accurate? How can you back this up? Or is it just your feeling?
University is all about self discipline, I’m sure they told every student in uni or college in there first year degree on orientation day. The teachers won’t be like high school whooping ur ass, telling you off or sending emails to ur parents or give detention unable to complete to work provided and most of teachers and professors don’t care to teach you but they can specifically tell you the question and guide u like giving dot points of what to write and elaborate more on but won’t help in increasing grade for example if you don’t know how to use excel to create a table or graph with the given data the teachers mostly won’t help or teach you all they say is “watch videos on UA-cam on tutorials” . Personally, I took 2 hour lectures too lightly, I underestimated how much information they provide and how all this information is crucial to provide understanding to assignments, test and exams
As someone who tried to do an online college Java class, he's spitting facts. Accredited doesn't matter either.
My last teacher didn't even do the lecture
That's why 80% attendance is mandatory for us to appear in finals, else you repeat the course in the upcoming semester and pay again.
Why it is 100% relatable for me 🥲
Yes. I ve gone through this stage.
Yh... This vid reached me in my third year... Is there still hope😢
i can confirm, i failed java and my english class because of the virtual switch mixed with ego
I absolutely agree.
How much does first year backlogs impact while applying for jobs ?
If you're watching lectures later on 2x speed because it's "ideal", then you are already behind the person who already was at the class at 1x speed and is now revising while you are just learning😏
Can someone send me the link for the test. I'm struggling to find it
I can relate.😅
Anyone taking the University of Phoenix CS program? And is it worth it? Cause y’all’s were doing online before it was cool
I agree, I succeeded more in person than. Online. In-person is harder yet you actually learn
No bro, everything is a habit. I’m getting an online degree and first course was really difficult to be able to concentrate by myself BUT now I’m very productive and I work while I’m on the second year of my bachelors.
Which degree
And is it like distance learning
Does the certificate has same value as an in person college going student
Which website
Please do reply
Never skip classes because u think you can self study. There are many things teachers speak in class outside of the textbook which you will be missing out.
Agree with you
As a CS student , I can guarantee you! ,
If you got self discipline and Passion for the computer and off course college marks don't matter you , There is nothing you can't learn by yourself
Some lecturers just can't teach even though they are really good in that field. for instance, a Chinese person who gets graduated from a top tier university in china teaching you algorithms or database in the UK. it's very hard to understand them. There might be few people who can teach it better than the others but the majority are just not good enough.
my uni is online, I go to virtual uni in pak and the uni is online u only have to go to uni to go for exams , finals and mids, all the lectrures and quizzes are done from home on a learning system
Which college
@@nimafathima3482 virtual university of Pakistan, search it up on google
Which university??????
Need helpppp
What was your fees???
Hlo sir which university did you go to? I am having a tough time choosing one
THAT VOICE OF THANOS AND FACE OF DOPPINDER
Dude never met my professors
Hey, I hope you are well. I was watching you UA-cam videos and planning to buy a Macbook air, confused between M1 16 256 or M2 8 256? Also want to know can we use Sql, Tableau and PowerBi on it?
just get the highest you can afford, BUT absolute minimum storage should be 512GB, but really 1TB is comfortable. 256GB has often led me to constantly needing to delete storage, and then buy an external SSD.
SQL and Tableau can be used directly on Mac, PowerBI is only for windows, BUT you can use a virtual desktop (e.g. Parallels) to run Windows and thus PowerBI (however running a virtual desktop is not optimal and runs slower, and takes up like over 30+ GB in storage when you have all your applications installed).
I am one of the post covid victim😢
Should i go for computer because i wanna work remotely and not see people?
very true
So true
Which is harder cse or boimedical engineering ?? Idk what to choose please help me
Make your decision based on whether software or biology interests you more, not based on which is harder. Thanks for watching!
True
Basically backlogs are harmful for people
Online Degree are cheap it is the future of Education. Infact degrees are obsolete nowadays. You can learning anything online. Skills are important degree is of not use.
This is your assumption and consideration based on your own situation, doesn’t necessarily applies to everyone
u need t send this messages to instructor..I agree w. you in classes. learned more..,😁
I agree going in person is always better if that's available to you. But I think computer science requires a sort of military attitude during the semesters. You really just need to tell everyone, including yourself, this is my life until the semester is over. If you can't hack 15 hour days of study and no weekends it's just not for you.
Or just watch it on 1× speed?
My first year was learning at home and went to university only when exams appeared
My going for a program which is binded together with computer engineering technology and computer science
Is it gonna be worth it, also how challenging is it going to be to strike a balance
What is the program
And if it's online then which college
or you just take full online and do everything yourself instead of doing remote. That way you do everything when and where you want and learn everything more efficiently
#relatable
well that was YOUR work ethic being very unbalanced. me on the other hand prefer online classes, and i always stay a week ahead of assignments, so i can practice any additional coding/related concepts on my own time.
Facts
Yeah nah this doesn't apply to everyone, we all have different ways to effectively absorb knowledge. I have a tendency to lose focus really easily in physical lecture classes, I already knew from the first day it just wasn't going to do it for me. The following classes I had skipped, watched online recordings, practice the exercises and complete assignments given to us, and self-study with the help of online resources and UA-cam, and Istill got a HD for my classes, and this is coming from a Comp Sci major who hates Comp Sci.
A word of advice would be to not feel pressured to conform to the norms everyone tells you, find the methods that you're most comfortable with, helps you stay efficient, and produces the best results for you. The only things you need is consistency, self-discipline, and an open mind. Also be sure to take breaks away from your study space :)
its the exact opposite for me, i lose focus on my own but absorb everything when im present
About 1/3 of people are self motivated and can study on their own. I'm in that third, but you are clearly not.
This isn't a bad take but i think the thing which is missing is this:
Why is it important to take offline classes?
At University one as a student shouldn't just be focusing to study but to understand and potentially begin their career pathways
In an offline setting not only will you be learning but there will (well should ideally be) constant rapport between students and professors about topics being taught creating a good connection between the student and the professor WHICH GOES OUT OF THE WINDOW when running cramming sessions to study, not mentioning how bad it is to cram in a understanding heavy subject like CS
But all of this is ofc with the assumption that the professor is able to setup an environment where this kind of activity can happen, if it's a professor who just reads off slides, yeah better just go online and 3x lectures or better yet learn actual content from edutainment channels
That's a discipline issue. I finished 5 classes in 1 month
...For you. Some of us learn better online
Yea, I won't.
SINCE WHEN IS A COMPSCI DEGREE NOT A STARWARS WEEKEND ?!?!?!
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Discouraging for individuals who rely heavily on UA-cam for learning.
Nice loop
💯
First of all leave Hercules out of this. 😂
I don’t agree with this, if a person doesn’t have any self-discipline or consistency, then for sure they need to agree with you. But if that’s not the case, then there’s no need to waste your time like that, you can learn much more by yourself.
pretty dumb take. not everyone half asses their online courses and procrastinates.