Thank you Nancy. I should have added how much you’ve taught me and how very much I enjoy your delightful wackiness. Your flame coloring copper with a torch kept me enthralled. I too am totally engaged and fascinated with watching the colors develop and change. When first tried i grabbed every piece of copper I had and couldn’t stop experiencing the magic. But your technique and testing of the different torches really enlightened me. Thank you again for your willingness to share. And kudos to your friend and you for demonstrating silver reticulation on copper. Of course her name has flown away with a lot of other important facts.
Copper is so awesome when it's patinated. Thanks Nancy! I love the water method, but the colors of the sodium sulfide are kind of making me want some of that.
In theory excess sodium sulfide could be mixed with a copper nitrate solution, forming copper sulfide precipitate and sodium nitrate solution. The sodium nitrate solution could then be used to dissolve gold plate, and then you can precipitate out the gold using SMB
You need it the copper to be glowing bright at 1040 to 1050 degree celsius to have a very bright pink color. Yes, sand it first. Hydrogen torch works the best.
If you heat the copper to a glowing red and then immediate quench in water, you will get a very similar red patina on the copper and no need to boil the water. Important is to clean the copper really well before torching it.
Those are gorgeous! Can't wait to try the hot water method. Also, curious if with the sodium sulfide, if the pre made solution can be substituted for the flakes, and if it's safer?
I was wondering what part of my process gave me the red i was getting in my brass. I was using bisulphate in dish soap on one part, mustard on another and salt here and there and I was getting a random specklage of red here and there. Never thought it'd be from the salt and dish soap reacting! Nice! Also it was palmolive, its the only dish soap ive found with something-or-other bisulphate.
She mentions using EverBrite....have you tried ProtectaClear? I’m just trying to figure out to use on my pieces. I’m curious how to keep the purple/blues on copper without changing them with a protectant
Can I please apprentice with you? I absolutely love your talent, sense of humor and your kitties...lol I could watch your videos all day. I wish you put one up every day I understand that you're a busy woman but I would still love it.
Roberto Katekaru Great question and something I will research. One must then question the chemicals in sealers, as well as those involved in the coloration process.
So I bought some cups and they had been kinda plated with a silver or chromite that’s peeling so I’m soaking them in acid. They are either pewter or bronze. I’m trying to safely strip them before I can decide what they are then depending I want to make a kinda shaduko with them. Any help you can give me would be great. I’m not sure what I can do if they are pewter but if they are bronze them maybe there is something I can do.
In theory you can stop the reaction with a quick dip/wash of the item in hydrogen peroxide or weak bleach solutions (I wouldn't risk bleach). Then rinse with distilled water. Adding an aquarium bubbler to the hydrogen peroxide should help. I haven't tried this, but I have a little background in organic chemistry (not jewelry making)
Thank you for your work Madam. May I ask you for advise please. In Australia I can only find Sodium Sulphide, do you think it would work as Sodium Sulfide, are they different chemicals? Thanks so much. Merry Christmas, Kind Regards, Kalman Radvanyi
Agree nancy. The colors are not only different but its important to look at things from the viewpoint of a project that cannot be heated. For instance copper inlay in a knife blade that cannot be heated again after being hardened. This technique is incredibly valuable.
Wow. Can't you put it in water and baking soda to stop the process? Or would there be a chemical reaction? Hmmmm. Guess I need to read up. LOL. Thank you for your time and sharing all your knowledge. Love you and your videos. Hu gs!
Love the video. Which surface sealent you recomend to save amonia patena? It will be a great favour if u can send me the pic of sealent jar. Thank u so much.
The "Dust Mask" you are using is for particulates..... you need to be using a respirator that has properly paired cartridges for "Fumes"! Only one set of lungs you have! Working outdoors is smart without a hood vent. 3M has a wealth of information on which cartridges to use for various chemicals. Jewelers use a method for cleaning termed "Pickling". It uses a liquid medium which heated that cleans the metal prior to applying the patina.... Be Safe.
Thank you Nancy. I should have added how much you’ve taught me and how very much I enjoy your delightful wackiness. Your flame coloring copper with a torch kept me enthralled. I too am totally engaged and fascinated with watching the colors develop and change. When first tried i grabbed every piece of copper I had and couldn’t stop experiencing the magic. But your technique and testing of the different torches really enlightened me. Thank you again for your willingness to share. And kudos to your friend and you for demonstrating silver reticulation on copper. Of course her name has flown away with a lot of other important facts.
Also, thanks to Hannah that demonstrated...I appreciate your efforts, too! And, Brianna for her assist! Great work ladies!
Heat red patina is awesome. Love that it’s environmentally nontoxic. Thank you.
Copper is so awesome when it's patinated. Thanks Nancy! I love the water method, but the colors of the sodium sulfide are kind of making me want some of that.
I wont be doing this for a little while, but absolutely fascinating. Like you say Nancy, the chemistry is awesome.
Wow! But beautiful coloring and interesting techniques. Thank you for sharing your talents with us. Blessings.
Thank you soooo much Nancy for showing a safer way to do technic
So fascinating! Thank you Nancy for yet another FABULOUS video!
In theory excess sodium sulfide could be mixed with a copper nitrate solution, forming copper sulfide precipitate and sodium nitrate solution. The sodium nitrate solution could then be used to dissolve gold plate, and then you can precipitate out the gold using SMB
Love it
I'm good with the hot water and heat on metal method. Nice red, consistent, safe, non-toxic, beautiful! Thanks, Nancy! I love copper!
you are such a generous, talented person. Thank you as always
Woo woo - first to comment! I love colored copper and your discolored spot looks like it matches the rest now. Thanks for sharing these techniques.
I really appreciate all of your video's Nancy, thank you
I know I am late to the party, but I was taught to get red hot with torch and dunk in ice water. You get a really nice red.
Love the patinas I think I’ll try the non-toxic one thank you Nancy
У Вас сегодня оригинальные очки- так здорово подходят к помаде. Вы такая труженица!Познавательное видео мне понравилось. Благодарю!!!
You need it the copper to be glowing bright at 1040 to 1050 degree celsius to have a very bright pink color. Yes, sand it first. Hydrogen torch works the best.
I love that red! I was wondering how to get that consistently.
If you heat the copper to a glowing red and then immediate quench in water, you will get a very similar red patina on the copper and no need to boil the water. Important is to clean the copper really well before torching it.
Those are gorgeous! Can't wait to try the hot water method. Also, curious if with the sodium sulfide, if the pre made solution can be substituted for the flakes, and if it's safer?
You are simply the coolest woman.
Haha! Thanks.
I was wondering what part of my process gave me the red i was getting in my brass. I was using bisulphate in dish soap on one part, mustard on another and salt here and there and I was getting a random specklage of red here and there. Never thought it'd be from the salt and dish soap reacting! Nice! Also it was palmolive, its the only dish soap ive found with something-or-other bisulphate.
She mentions using EverBrite....have you tried ProtectaClear? I’m just trying to figure out to use on my pieces. I’m curious how to keep the purple/blues on copper without changing them with a protectant
Thanks Nancy! Something new to try!
Can I please apprentice with you? I absolutely love your talent, sense of humor and your kitties...lol I could watch your videos all day. I wish you put one up every day I understand that you're a busy woman but I would still love it.
We have learned over time that chemicals permeate. Any studies on Sodium sulfate being absorbed in our skin when wearing such pieces?
Roberto Katekaru Great question and something I will research. One must then question the chemicals in sealers, as well as those involved in the coloration process.
first thing I thought of, too. No way I would wear that toxic stuff
OR sell it to my customers
I loved the deep purple on the inside of the large cuff. What would the result be on brass?
So I bought some cups and they had been kinda plated with a silver or chromite that’s peeling so I’m soaking them in acid. They are either pewter or bronze. I’m trying to safely strip them before I can decide what they are then depending I want to make a kinda shaduko with them. Any help you can give me would be great. I’m not sure what I can do if they are pewter but if they are bronze them maybe there is something I can do.
In theory you can stop the reaction with a quick dip/wash of the item in hydrogen peroxide or weak bleach solutions (I wouldn't risk bleach). Then rinse with distilled water. Adding an aquarium bubbler to the hydrogen peroxide should help.
I haven't tried this, but I have a little background in organic chemistry (not jewelry making)
baking soda water and then distilled water works.
Love the intro !!
Lovely 😊 thank you 🤟🏻❤️
thank you!!!!
So much information! Thanks for edumicating me. :)
Thank you for all that information!
Love this video, especially the hot water part. I was just wondering: why the tissue paper?
What do you use to seal copper? Thanks so much!
Thank you for your work Madam. May I ask you for advise please. In Australia I can only find Sodium Sulphide, do you think it would work as Sodium Sulfide, are they different chemicals? Thanks so much. Merry Christmas, Kind Regards, Kalman Radvanyi
same
Don’t see why I’d bother playing with a dangerous chemical when heat and boiling water suffice. The stove method was so easy and color was great.
Mary Anne Pentis Well, the colors were extremely different. I guess it depends on what your work requires?
I don't see why I'd bother messing with some mild heat effects when I can have rockin' extreme chemical chaos ravaging the surface of my workpiece.
Agree nancy. The colors are not only different but its important to look at things from the viewpoint of a project that cannot be heated. For instance copper inlay in a knife blade that cannot be heated again after being hardened. This technique is incredibly valuable.
To stop the patina dunk is baking soda with water
Thanks🐱
Wow!!! Thank you
I forgot to add that before torching brush a light layer of gel flux on just the front, or on both front and back and then torch
Wow. Can't you put it in water and baking soda to stop the process? Or would there be a chemical reaction? Hmmmm. Guess I need to read up. LOL.
Thank you for your time and sharing all your knowledge. Love you and your videos. Hu gs!
handyvicki I wouldn’t. But, I think a bowl of water might stop the process. I need to do more research too!
Love the video.
Which surface sealent you recomend to save amonia patena?
It will be a great favour if u can send me the pic of sealent jar.
Thank u so much.
yes this works
Thanks so much x
The "Dust Mask" you are using is for particulates..... you need to be using a respirator that has properly paired cartridges for "Fumes"! Only one set of lungs you have! Working outdoors is smart without a hood vent. 3M has a wealth of information on which cartridges to use for various chemicals. Jewelers use a method for cleaning termed "Pickling". It uses a liquid medium which heated that cleans the metal prior to applying the patina.... Be Safe.
Yeah, the lack of safety gear, exposed flesh, a precarious bowl, that looked like a trip to the hospital waiting to happen.
Making the reds with heat is permanent. Unless you sand it off.
Try holding it still so we can see it. Dah.