@TheRealBurrito31 Anakin's rage consumed him making him stupid at that current time, when he became Darth Vader he finely wised up and embraced the dark side properly and used the rage to become the most powerful Jedi/Sith ever other then myself if I was a Jedi obviously...
Anakin had suffered from Hypermidichloremia. Hyper meaning high, midichlor referring to the organisms that generate the force, and emia meaning presence in blood. High presence of Midichlorians in blood.
I actually like the idea of Obi-Wan being this guy who achieves some amazing results without being as naturally tallented as some other people. This reminds us about how the natural gift is usually not enough, you also need determination and thought put into the process
Elijah George;Thank you, however, I know what the line is. I've followed Star Wars since 1977! I wasn't asking a question! I replied to someone who indicated that the line is uttered by Force Users! Yet in Return of the Jedi C3PO says it to R2, and in The Last Jedi, BB-8 says it to Poe! My point being, that makes these droids sensitive to the Force.
@@lukewheeldon8025 I believe Luke said it first just before they were being pulled into the Death Star by the tractor beam . Han said it when they were in the garbage chute after they rescued Leia.
There is one class above the 25,000 mark and since you have been talking about legends in your video I have to add it. Abeloth (a living dark side death star).
I'm pretty sure that if we DIDN'T have midichlorians, then people would be upset about the fact that we don't have an explanation for how the force is used.
People were upset because they assumed the midichlorians explained the force rather than what they actually were which was a side effect of the force. Midichlorians are attracted to force sensitives they dont cause the sensitivity
JelloFluoride it’s amazing how people try to go against what the creator said. The midichlorians generate the energy field. You’re not wrong and neither am I.
@@keikaider that is precisely right 💯 everything that the creator of star wars said is true but you gon always have people that only hear what they wanna hear
I think Padme was maybe one of those who were marginally force-sensitive (around 5000 or more). She was a very good shot, very attuned to other people's emotions, far more empathetic than most people and very intuitive.
Padme, Obi-Wan, even Sheev Palpatine were all in category listed as 'Can only be killed by a Skywalker'. In light of this, the Force itself would intervene and preserve them long enough to be essentially fattened for slaughter. Blaster bolts would simply go astray.
She was very powerful during combat. Even surpassing jedi. Look at the battle of geonosis, she was being targeted directly but she survived, in fact she was the first to escape her chains. Don't underestimate padme
It always pissed me of that we never got to see a prime, mature and much more technical and practiced Anakin with knowledge at the age of 30 or so with his limbs. He would of been ridiculous
@@luzzafblanfranchi7450 When Obi Wan cut Anakin in half and left him burning on Mustafar, he lost about half of his midi-chlorians... the Vader we saw was just a small taste of what Anakin could've been...
Well that was essentially what luke was in legends. Legends Luke approached God status with ridiculous force feats. He was so powerful he was often used as a deus ex machina to help others out in the old stories
@@stan4234 hence why I think the legends comics is overrated, it wasn't nearly as bad as where Disney took the series but I didn't like Legends that much either, Legends started off amazing but as it went on it made it almost Star Trek like with a lot of the stories, it stopped feeling like Star Wars, I think people hype Legends up so much because they'd of just rather the new trilogy be based off of legends rather then a generic Mary Sue timeline like Disney made. Luke was never meant to pass Anakin it didn't make sense lore wise
What happened afterwards? Order 66 hit while they were mopping up, did the Clones also turn on the Wookies, did they stop fighting the CIS? Did the Wookies react to the Clones gunning down the Jedi (well they tried to with Yoda and got taken out, was he the one Jedi there…). Or were the Wookies and the Clones celebrating the victory when the Wookies asked where Yoda was so he could join in the party, and the Clones looked uncomfortable "we no speak Wookie…?"
@@casbot71 I'm pretty sure Luminara Unduly was present on Kashyyyk during Order 66. Also the clones wen on a rampage killing a majority of the Wookies knowing they where loyal to the Jedi.
Midichlorians are a pretty nifty idea if I’m completely honest. And I mean it is George’s creation of people don’t like it he should’ve told them to bite it poor fella
ReconPuffin Cause people don’t like the force being explained by science. In a sci-fi fantasy movie. What the guy said in the beginning, though; if the force and Jedi have existed for thousands of years, yeah, no shit someone would have thought “hey why don’t we figure out why we can literally manipulate things with our minds”. George felt this concept explained enough without changing what the Force does.
j b, and even then, the franchise is meant to be a science fantasy more than science fiction. But as the Force is repeatedly stated to be connected heavily to living things, with Obi Wan describing it as “An Energy Field Created By All Living Things” and Yoda stating “For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter”
As someone who was given a certificate of “Jedi knight” back in 2006 from post Disneyfied Star Wars..... *at Disneyland* I can say my Midiclorian count is pretty high my dudes
Disney bought Lucas films in 2012... so I think you mean pre* “Disneyfied”. Since Disney didn’t have Star Wars rights in 2006, not sure how they issued you a certificate...
@@ДмитрийЗеленский-ж7х Fair point, though I highly doubt Grievous's brain was responsible for sole control of his body. It's one thing for Anakin's (or Luke's) brain to learn to control a mechanical hand or arm that has replaced a pre-existing limb... or even for Anakin to learn to control multiple replacement limbs in fairly short order (having had some prior experience adapting to them). But for a brain to learn how to control limbs that it never had before, or to maneuver them in ways that the old ones could not (like rapidly rotating one's wrists 360 degrees hundreds of times) seems several orders of magnitude more difficult. Something tells me Grievous had some cybernetic brain augmentation when he got his new body.
@@joaodala549 Because you need to focus to use the force so Greivous just didn't allow the time he overwhelmed the jedi he fought with fast strikes and four arms so they had to focus solely on blocking
There are multiple arcs in the EU about attempts to infuse non-force-sensitives with force powers, both in books and games. It's not an entirely original trope, but is the first time Disney's canon has used it as a plot device.
It was also never stated that they wanted to give non force sensitives force sensitivity with Grogu’s blood as of season 2 just that they needed high midiclorian blood and the reason was never stated
woah. WOAH. What if, to counter clone sickness, they found that, by increasing the midi-levels in their blood by any means, it greatly decreases the odds of it manifesting? I suppose that could make sense. Maybe creatures that grow quickly, or are artificially grown quickly, do not have enough time to properly create the necessary Midi-levels, so that the average clone would have only around 500-1000 per cell? I might not be against Midichlorians as much anymore. Interesting.
@@Zanoscar those bodys in the tanks are probably clones. Failed attempts on cloning Palpatine. They need the blood or at least some blood to make the body a perfect vase for Palpatines soul. Just a theory though. They are researching grogus blood to make synthetic force sensitive bodys not to fill them up with the blood because grogu wont be able to even fill a lot of clones with his blood
I like the theory that Han has some force sensitivity, maybe the only real force power he has is affecting hostiles minds, making them much more likely to miss any attack they attempt.
@@peabrain6872 Atton from KOTOR II always has a "bad feeling about this" before something bad happens, and he later becomes a Jedi after meeting the Exile.
Interesting idea. There have been scenarios like Darth Bane subconsciously influencing the minds of others to benefit himself, so I wouldn't put it out of the question.
Even when I was a little kid, I always assumed the implication was that Han had some degree of force sensitivity. Between his constant "I have a bad feeling about this" instinct and natural talent as a pilot, I always kind of assumed he had a better than average connection, just not enough to *use* it in any conscious way.
@@diegoalvarezrodriguez6248 And neither is some "supernatural s**t". Qui-Gon didn't need technique or midichlorians where he was when he taught Yoda. Which just proves that the Force goes beyond midichloreans or the purely physical.
I really don't mind the Midichlorians. They actually make sense in a pseudo-science way and they're essentially the Force version of mitochondria. The problem comes with the idea Qui-Gon got caught up in - A high Midi count MUST equal an equally high power level and so an equally high destiny. But just like with anything, those who train and work hard (Obi-Wan) can beat those with natural talent who skirt by doing just enough (Anakin) while those who have massive of natural talent and the work ethic of someone who doesn't can reach practically any level they want (Legends Luke)
@@morlath4767 l just want to say that l enjoyed your original post. One thing that does bother me about this discussion is how a lot of people demonise talent as a bad thing and even treat talented people as winners only because of talent and nothing else. But it seems that talented people have to work (some work harder than others). I don't know if you know or not but there have been those kids who get degrees at less than 10 years and l've often thought of the kind of pressure they must have to go through. Are they doing what they want or are they forced to live someone else's dream and everyone just expects them to pass and assume they don't work hard because their "talented". On the other hand some talented people become lazy and other less talented people surpass them through hard work and raise themselves to greater heights and surpass the lazy. All in all it seems to have to do with pride as the top treat the bottoms as trash and the bottom hate the ones at the top. I also think talent is a product of hardwork instead of the "hardwork beats talent when talent doesn't work hard". Like, why must they fight? Why can't they work together? So it is a bit of a two sides of the same coin type of deal. Side note: l do think natural aptitude would be a better word than talent. And through hard work and passion our natural aptitude can improve and reach success. I also realised just how close l am to saying the sith code but this post is already long enough.
@@morlath4767 l also forgot to mention that level 1 and level 100 progress at different speeds. Though it should be noted that not everyone can become as rich as Bill Gates. However, every one can improve, gain discipline and overcome their own personal weaknesses.
@@thirdplanet4471 Thank you and I pretty much agree with everything you've said. For me, there is always a little "it" that natural aptitude provides that pure hard work and drive doesn't. Maybe it's instinctively known how much force to put before a throw, maybe it's having the instincts to know when to zig instead of zagging. Whatever "it" is, it allows people the chance to reach the very pinnacle of what they're good at. But only if they put the effort and hard work in to do everything else. In really simple terms, Anakin was that kid at 11 who had the body of a 16-year-old and so could physically outperform the others. He never had to worry about finesse with the Force because he could brute force it. But that really only takes you so far. I'm always reminded of a story I heard about a highly talented Basketball player at LSU (don't ask me the names, I've never remember them even though I always remembered the story). His teammates all knew that he was the best on the team and could easily make it into the top levels of the NBA but he had a nickname among the squad - "Just Enough." He'd show up and do just enough for training, never any more. He'd work hard but only just enough to get on the team. Players with less natural 'talent' than him became much better and went on to have solid careers while he drifted through life. He never did what he had to to make the spark that put him above his peers actually mean something. Instead, he used it as a reason not to work as hard as they did for the results they all wanted.
If I remember in one of the legends books it is quoted that Han can "sense" his daughter Jaina just before she came out to walk down the aisle during her wedding. So his "I have a bad feeling" may have something to do with the force.
@@mkheliotropeinc But you can also get good at games that rely on both chance and skill since the skill part is knowing when and what to risk and when to take chances. But the force probably played into what he did during the game and his "gut instincts"
Uhhhhh Plo Koon was one of the most powerful masters on the council, and definitely upper echelon historically. Much higher than Jedi Knight level. You also need to make a distinction between force potential and force sensitivity. An individual like Kenobi was considered to have a lower than average count for an elite Jedi, but had an extremely honed sensitivity.
Yep. Potential vs achieved level. Obi Wan had a lower potential but had pretty much pushed himself to the limit of that potential. He was able to beat Anakin because he knew all Anakin's moves, but also because Anakin had WAY more potential, but hadn't fully honed it.
I also don't think it takes the mysticism out all that much. Its been said before, if you have really good science and magic, there will be attempts to quantify that magic using science. Just like in the established lore though, this scientific understanding is hardly good enough to explain the force, as people with less Ms can become better space wizards than people with more Ms
@@FirstArchon That was already kinda a thing before midichlorians in the originals though, when Lukes tells Leia "the force is strong in my family" in Return of the jedi.
@@Fgway Kind of. Midichlorians aren't the Force- they just pass on the will of the Force like mitochondria pass on energy and signals to hormones The Force is still this mystical energy field - the midichlorians are just it's proxy :)
I always wondered about that. Han was able to fly the Millennium Falcon through some impossible places. He was also able to always hit his mark while shooting- whether he was looking or not
Lightsabers are, with the only known exception being Darth Bane's lightsaber, extremely heavy. A lightsaber hilt can weigh anywhere between 3-5kg (6-11 lbs) according to George Lucas, around the weight of a standard medieval two-handed blade. A lightsaber shoto is the one-handed variant, which you see Ahsoka, Yoda and Ventress use, weighing roughly half as much and allowing the user to dual wield. The reason you don't see everyone in the Star Wars universe using a lightsaber, or possessing one for close quarters combat, is because lightsabers require a degree of Force sensitivity to wield effectively. Making it the weapon of Jedi and Sith respectively. All the weight is in the hilt, it has no point of balance beyond the hilt, making it impossible for the user to know where the blade is (increasing risk of injury), requiring extremely strong wrists to manoeuvre AND years if not decades of practice in a singular or various fighting style or Form. This is the reason Padawans often train deflecting blaster bolts while blindfolded isn't just to encourage them to use the Force and know the trajectory of the bolts, but to also encourage them to use the Force to 'feel' the plasma blade emitted.
Medieval swords aren't that heavy for the most part. Only the largest swords ever created are even close to that 12 pound mark,(but still not that heavy) and those are not meant for dueling or even hand to hand combat so much as breaking pike blocks, taking out horses legs and just creating a zone of death nobody wants to enter. 4 pounds is about the max for an every day carr y medieval sword. A lot of really large heavy swords are ceremonial wall hangers. Go try and swing a 10 pound bar around and you'll find out how difficult it is. Even when perfectly balanced.
A "standard" two handed medieval sword would weight between 1 to 1.5kg. Even the heaviest two handed sword of the 16th century, the Zweihänder, weighted between 2 to 4kg, and measured 140 to 210cm.
again he said the blade is weightless not the hilt or grip, you will not feel a forced acted upon you when the blade is hit because the blade is weightless which is why it would be difficult to use. though this makes 0 sense since clearly 2 sabers touching clearly act a force upon each other and youd have to feel it in the grip, if SW followed basic physics principles then lightsaber blades would just pass through each other since they are basically massless light/heat. maybe you can argue that youd feel a force acted upon you when you hit a blade of light/heat with a blade of light/heat because of colliding momentums, since it has been proven that photons do possess momentum despite being massless. i still think the blades would pass through each other.
@@user-vv1do1wg1j Who told you that a lightsaber blade is nothing but light/heat? That's blatantly inaccurate. And just because the blade is weightless, that does not mean that you can't feel a force acted upon you when the blade hits you. If you fill a balloon with helium, that balloon is weightless, but you can still feel a force acting upon you if someone pushes that balloon into you. A big enough balloon can exert a force strong enough to lift you off the ground, and you would certainly feel it if it ran into you - despite it being weightless. You're trying too hard to apply our technology to the world of Star Wars, and it's inaccurate to do that. We don't know how exactly the lightsaber works. All we know is that it's beyond our technological capability. Just because you saw a youtuber make a big blow torch and call it a "lightsaber" because it looks like a lightsaber, that doesn't mean that's how a lightsaber would work in Star Wars. What we know about a lightsaber comes from what we see the lightsaber do, not from physics. You can't apply physics to an imaginary object in a world that defies our laws of physics. We see that the lightsabers very clearly do not just pass through each other, so we know that they blades would not pass through each other. We don't have to speculate about that.
Nah, Dooku would be in the 17,000 to 18,000 range. He was the Jedi Order's greatest prodigy until Anakin (the "Anakin before Anakin" as it were) He is just constantly underrated because Maul and Vader fanboys (plus dubious writing decisions in the prequels, regarding the treatment of Dooku's character) overshadow the praise (if any) Dooku tends to get in general. The only Jedi who could be considered on par with Dooku (until Anakin - and even then Dooku demonstrably kicked his ass about a dozen times in the Clone Wars before the gap closed and Dooku was beaten fully, even when he'd often have Obi Wan helping him) were Mace Windu and Yoda (cos, Yoda, nuff said) But the thing is, Dooku could be said to hold his own very well with Yoda. Dooku was Yoda's penultimate direct padawan before Cin Drallig (that is, prior to Luke Skywalker) Dooku was the star of the Jedi Order without even trying to be that hard, and tonnes of Jedi respected him, from Jocasta Nu to Ki Adi Mundi. He was one of their absolute finest in centuries if not millennia. Again, he is just badly underrated because he isn't as flashy or a raging, salivating freak when he is a Sith. He's a smooth operator and a master of lightsaber combat. I would accept that Dooku overcomes some of his own midichlorian limitations (compared to Yoda or Anakin) but I'd say he was absolutely on par with Mace Windu. In fact, Yoda couldn't have asked for two more equally balanced compatriots in the Jedi Order - Windu VS Dooku would be absolutely spectacular (and not the one sided stomp some seem to think it is; Dooku would _not_ play into Windu's fighting style and in a one on one Dooku's energy conservation and careful precision footwork and bladework, going up against the raw kinetic power of Windu and his far more aggressive and acutely ferocious style, would be fascinating) Yes, Dooku will struggle (in his advanced years) to generate the kinetic energy to meet Windu's frenzy, yet Dooku's own style is rather ideal to diffuse the main aim of Vaapad. Makashi can misdirect and redirect the entire fight onto the practitioner's terms, and _no_ practitioner was ever quite as good at Makashi as Dooku was. Just as Yoda exemplifies and embodies Ataru, just as Obi Wan came to be the consumate champion of Soresu, just as Anakin dominated in Djem So and just as Windu cornered the field on Vaapad, Makashi was Dooku's thing. Only Soresu would be better suited to handling the strategy of Vaapad, in terms of not giving the Vaapad user what he wanted (stonewalling it, Kenobi style) But due to the more dynamic attributes of Vaapad offensively, it would be harder for the Soresu master to counterattack with so much energy devoted to defence. Tiring the Vaapad user out would be the goal. But if this is Mace Windu we're talking about, good luck with that. Dooku VS Windu would be such a sight to behold. Dooku was the only other Jedi in the Order who beat Windu in sparring sessions, besides Yoda (now yes, Windu was far younger then, but so was Dooku) Neither would be spring chickens when rematching in the scenario where they fight in the Clone Wars. In a way, Dooku and Windu are in the same ''echelon'' or ''tier''. Dooku knows Windu's fighting qualities very well, and would not underestimate him or let him take advantage. They are absolutely on each other's level and absolutely masters of their preferred forms. Obi Wan constantly got picked apart by Dooku, though ironically I think Obi Wan would perform better VS Mace Windu. Mace would probably get the win via sheer overwhelming power, yet Obi Wan could deal with Windu's bladework for a prolonged time. Sidious arguably didn't ''lose'' to Windu, he was throwing the fight because he was counting on Anakin to witness and participate in the murder to fully implicate him and make him turn to the dark side. He was using his own life as bait. Windu failed as a Jedi the moment he tried to strike Sidious down anyway. He let his own passion for the Republic, blind him from the danger stood right next to him. Sidious knew that and preyed on it, betting his own life that Anakin would step in (to save Padme, more than himself) But that didn't matter. As soon as he "had him" that was that. No going back from Darth Vader (or so he thought) Dooku and Windu, in my opinion, are on par with Vader post-Mustafar in power and ability. Vader (mutilated and maimed) was always roughly 8/10 Palpatine's power after that. It makes Obi Wan's victory all the more telling, and impressive, because Vader's none mutilated full biomass potential, was meant to be literally twice Palpatine's if he kept on going. "Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us!" - Sidious to Yoda, Episode III. What I find crazy about Sidious saying that, is how it basically confirms he was willing to risk making an apprentice go beyond himself (Sidious is strange in having a line up of apprentices and not seeming to conventionally follow the Rule of Two, outright intending to kill off Dooku it seems from the start) So, him of all people saying with assertive, smug pride, that Vader would go well beyond either himself or Yoda, to Yoda's face, is him openly admitting to Yoda it might kill him (Yoda knows what the Sith get up to and how they betray each other) For Sidious to even allow that chance of happening, makes it seem like he would rather die for the Sith Order than pass up on the chance of adding Anakin to it's ranks. It shows that even Palpatine put something before his own life, in my opinion. By even risking training Vader, knowing what might happen to himself, he at least had to think about the possibility of Vader killing him like he did to Plagueis. Sure, Sidious probably just wanted to try and control and manipulate Vader to make sure he survived, but if that went wrong he wouldn't be able to stop Vader and he must have known that full well. So it does imply that even Sidious was considering allowing himself to die for the greater good of the Sith. What happened to Vader was therefore bittersweet to him because he just resumed using someone less powerful than himself, but all the time he was using Vader as an Imperial enforcer, he was openly disappointed with him. It's why he was so eager to replace him with Luke (a carbon copy almost of Anakin in power, if not with the raw potential to go beyond) Makes you wonder about Sidious. Oh wait, sorry, how silly, REY is stronger than everyone and is the bestest force user everrr -.- something something ''diads'' something something emo Ren something something they fly now?
@@thetravelerformallyknowasw7912Old woman randomly passing by a derelict house in the desert totally not suspiciously and totally not probably looking for somewhere to take a shit: Rey who?...... Rey: *ReY SkYwAlKeR* Sheev Palpatine in the netherworld of the force, casually: (facepalms at Mach 3) Uncle Owen in space heaven: _Get out of my house_
@@Matthew-zc5ow he atleast didn't die in a second like the other 2 noobs. Plus, there is an actuall explanation. So, Palpatine mastered ALL 7 forms of lightsaber combat and he used form 7 which is very rare and used by Sith so he was too fast and they probably haven't seen that form before. Boom. Explanation.
Let me explain Midichlorians in it's basics. Get ready for Star Wars Health Class 101. You have Midichlorians. We all do. Midichlorians are what essentially make the Force what it is. Ben Kenobi told us so. It's an energy field surrounding all living creatures. It's not a super power some gifted few have. The higher the Midichlorians the EASIER the Force is to use. So anybody can use the force in some way. It's just much much much easier for a Jedi like Luke Skywalker to do so and use more of the Force than say Chewbacca. And if you still hate them... It's fucking *FICTION* all of it.
While I agree that the midichlorians are an interesting addition to the franchise, the fact that it happens to be fictional does not mean it can't be criticized. This "argument" is very weak and basically boils down to: It doesn't exist therefore you have no right to care about it and it's applications to said fictional world. You're not defending the midichlorians in any way by saying this, all that you're stating is: Stop caring about fiction and don't attempt any form of criticism for the sole reason that it is part of a fictional universe. Instead of brushing off any criticism of any aspect in fiction with that lazy and tired "argument", try to make an argument defending it with logic and reason.
If i am understanding your 101 Class correctly. Nobody should have an opinion about something fictional if they don't like it? So, it is okay to like something fictional but you have an issue if someone doesn't like it? It is hard to argue/debate against feelings and emotions. This is why discourse to ascertain why people feel they way they do about things is a more productive endeavor. One can gain a perspective that they wouldn't have before, had they just dismissed the other's thoughts/feelings/opinions. For example: For those who grew up with only episodes 4-6, there were 22 years before the concept of midichlorians came around. This is a long time to fill in the gaps of a franchise that notoriously left things vague up to that point (on many subjects). 22 years to fill in the gaps as one's imagination allowed (or see legends universe). This created an investment into the thoughts and ideas one came up with or with the general idea already given of the Force being more of a mystical energy field of ambiguous nature. Then presumably, for many, the midichlorian revelation was a letdown and in a sense a rewrite/undoing. I don't see this as being a big thing, in general, for those who grew up with episodes 1-6 as they got the whole pie from the beginning. They probably didn't have the mental investment into that part of things since it was already explained. It is all about perspective.
@TruthseekerWes very well said. I simply can't understand the notion of ''it's fiction therefore you can't complain or critique it in any way, shape or form''. That does not constitute as an argument. All the commenter stated was: Shut up and enjoy product, no matter if said product is of quality or not. Yet that exact argument not only undermines fiction's importance in society but also ultimately downplays the impact it can have on people’s lives around the globe.
@@nikoniortnike I agree completely. The point of art, whether it is movies, music, paintings, etc is to illicit an emotional response, i.e. form an opinion of said media and take from it what you will. Many fictional things inspire people in great ways and give them strength in difficult times. You can't discount fiction when it becomes part of a society. When it becomes part of a bond that unites various cultures and races across the globe. It has had real world effects and influences. It is an extreme disservice to say none of this should matter because, fiction.
I mean, BB8 and C3PO say it, are they force sensitive? Plenty of people in real life said that before 1977, are they force-sensitive? Sure, this could be a biproduct of Han's slight force-sensitivity, and Leia also said it, and she's certainly force-sensitive, but you can't use it as evidence when it's quite a common thing to say.
One of my favorite scenes from the EU was Luke testing Wedge Antilles's force sensitivity and being amazed that Wedge had no sensitivity whatsoever. He was just a man who was driven, disciplined and extraordinary outside the force.
i love the concept of the midi-chlorians, don't know why people hate it so much, it does not take away the mystical aspects of the force, but adds to it, because it's not how much of it you have, it's how you use it. Anakin has a huge amount because he was a creation of the force itself to counter the growing darkness of Plagueis and Sidious, it always goes for balance, so, when light or dark go too far it acts to balance things again, that's why both Jedi and Sith are wrong, specially the Jedi, that talk about balance, but only go for light. The answer is the middle, it's ok to feel emotions, just don't let them drive your actions, you don't have to be an emotionless monk nor a psycopath, just live your life and use the force as another tool in your arsenal.
The masses dislike intricacy and detail because it takes individuals to become interested in things at such levels and people. They accuse non casual fans of anything of being elitist and would rather ruin entire lores and communities than admit theres a higher level of fandom that is more fun and rewarding and that through deliberate actions they have ro bed themselves of being a part of it.
It makes sense to me now why Mace Windu was so dogmatic and rigid. He required exceptional discipline to stay balanced with the force and not fall to the dark side.
anyone else having the problem that generation tech videos aren’t being recommended, even after having watched probably 100-200 generation tech videos?
I never considered that but its definitely true. I get recommended videos from channels I am subscribed to and ones I'm not. Google and UA-cam always show me starwars stuff but not generation tech.
just noticed i even had notifications turned on, but it was set to personalized. haven’t gotten any notifications from them in months. turned it to all now. i’d expect this from political channels youtube doesn’t like, but not from genration tech. maybe youtube likes dolphins...
Its the opposite. I've never watched this dude and I got recommended this video from the Halo Infinite trailer. Edit: opposite FOR ME not for everyone. Sorry I didn't specify
Anakin: Being the chosen one and the one with the one with the highest midichlorian count in all history is one of the top jedi and later sith in history as it is logical because just by “science” (his midiclorian count being the highest) he should be the strongest. Rei and Palpatine in the rise of the Skywalker: Literally having godly powers for no reason.
As much as I hate episode 9 Rey and Palpatine being op in the finale makes sense cause they were both being assisted by Sith Lords and Jedi knights from the past
@@danmenard6917 if shes beating kilo wren in their first fight when kilo has trained for years and she has zero training and then becoming super powerful after training her self when Luke refused to then shes gotta have midiclorians even higher then anakin
@@jdkskwkwjdjxjfen She didn't beat Kylo Ren in their first fight, though. He was injured, emotionally compromised, and had just fought Finn, however briefly. Rey was on the back foot the entire fight. | Even in Rise of Skywalker, it showed Kylo Ren outclassed Rey as a duelist in every way due to the years of training he had over her. Even when faced with Snoke in The Last Jedi, Rey had zero chance of beating him if it weren't for Kylo Ren's intervention.
@@danmenard6917 even holding her own is insane having zero experience with a lightsaber. Then theres also the point where she practically trained herself. Shes gotta have atleast the same as anakin.
@@jdynamite2208 As I recall, George didn't have much love for the old Star Wars universe either. Bringing up his distaste for the new canon doesn't really mean much.
@@jdynamite2208 Why she's powerful: The blood of Palpatine + a connection with a Skywalker. Alone she's formidable, with Kylo she's near unbeatable. Character development: She goes from wanting a purpose in life, finding out her "purpose" is to be evil, denying it, and become a Jedi despite her dark bloodline. Nothing too fancy, but still cool imo. Every time she's lost a fight: Got beaten by Luke, before cheating to get out of it. Got beaten by Snoke. Got f**king killed by Palpatine. And got beaten by Kylo on DS2 Every time she's "won" a fight: She barley got away from a half dead Kylo. She cheated in her fight against Luke by pulling a Lightsaber on him. And I guess it was her body used by the Jedi Ghosts to destroy Palpatine.
9:27 again. Beautifully illustrated with that scene. That battle was epic. Two highly defensive combatants duking it out makes for an excellent show. Utapau is my favorite battle from the prequel trilogy.
So I've always imagined the ability to control the force to be made of two things, your attunement to the force (Medichlorian count) which is like, natural talent, and then experience. Almost any jedi who would work hard enough could be able to do almost anything, for example. Obi-Wan Kenobi would be an example of that. He dedicated his life to facing Sith Lords and destroying huge amount of battle droids easily. His mastery of soresu was unparalleled amongst the jedi of his time, which would make him one of the best duelist. I like to believe that according to this fact, he could beat Dooku in a duel, or close to, at the end of the clone wars. The only reason he got bested was because Anakin sucks at team work.
unpopular opinion, but i like the idea of midochlorians. it explains so much more about anakin. it goes along with how he was born, why he had such raw power, and why his fighting was so much more sloppy than obi wans. he was so naturally gifted that he didnt put as much effort into his training like obi wan did
Respect to mentioning Finn as a cut above the average sentient being in terms of Force-sensitivity, comfortably having about double the average count. After all, he was paraded on the cover of episode VII with a lightsaber yet is never overtly demonstrated as force-sensitive in any meaningful way in the sequel trilogy. Methinks JJ wanted to covertly throw a few bones Boyega's way in compensation for being sold short (particularly by Rian Johnson). Finn did more than fight well with a near-weightless weapon on first use. His knowledge of the workings of the First Order, and even more mysteriously, the Final Order, seriously outstrip his rank, duties, and his experience on active duty with the former entity, and are totally unexplainable regarding the latter entity. He suspiciously differentiated the presence vs absence of hidden emplacements on a ship class he was entirely unfamiliar with. If he isn't Force-sensitive, his behavior suggests innate genius-level spatial intelligence and mechanical intuition, potentially exceeding human history's top engineers in terms of his intuitions regarding the built environment, even giving Anakin's repair skills some competition! Being in the construction business I wish I had those "powers", regarding what's hidden behind some of these old walls, to instantaneously asses the scope of a renovation project!
I think the idea of midichlorians is a lot better than the “anyone can be a Jedi” trope that The Last Jedi tried to push. That’s not the way the world works. Some people are born more smart or talented than others, but it depends on what you do with what you’re given. There’s heroes in the Star Wars universe without high midichlorians that still did great things and others like Anakin that had talent that he wasted. “Do the best you can with what you’re given” is a much more empowering and realistic message than “You can be anything you want to be”
Like Lando, he isn't force sensitive but had the same achievement of Luke Skywalker in blowing up a death star. So someone not force sensitive managed the greatest feat of the most force sensitive.
I mean isnt someone born from someone unremarkable anyone? The point is that power doesn't have to come from bloodlines and people obsessed way too much with who was born from who etc.
Cuttlefish I do understand the criticism of the sort of eugenic idea that the Jedi’s superiority is inherited rather than earned. Although, in the days of the republic, the Jedi weren’t allowed to reproduce and there were still many new force sensitive children. I can see how the sequels could be perceived as nepotistic since they made Rey a Palpatine, but there was really no other way to explain her being so powerful with no training. It’s just the Star Wars universe. We may scoff at nepotism in our own world, but it’s easier for the audience to understand relationships when people are related. Like I feel like it made Rey more part of the story, which is centered around Skywalker and Palpatine, since she just appeared out of the blue and was the central character (with ZERO character flaws apparently but that’s another story🙄).
I really wish we could get some comics or novels about the Exploration Corps. I'd love to see the adventures of Jedi archaeologists going around the galaxy exploring ancient tombs and discovering lost civilizations.
Really? Midichlorians were in "the Last Jedi"? I don't remember that part. But I also don't remember most of that movie and I remember seeing that movie in theaters.
in the book "Star Wars: The Secrets of the Jedi" (which takes place JUST before Luke Skywalker sacrifices himself in The Last Jedi), Luke says he personally doesnt care how the Force whispers to him, only that it does. He takes a dim view of using Midichlorians to determine whether someone is worthy of Jedi-hood or not.
I have watched that movie 6 times and zoned out each time when in the theater I noticed the floor needed cleaning covered in crushed popcorn and soda. In the house I noticed that the ewok needed brushing the little thing kept hitting me with a copstick he thinks is a spear soooo cute how dumb he is, when I finally got the last knot out of him I noticed the credits were finishing :/ Most recent time trying to watch it I noticed my carpet needed cleaning so I hoovered and washined it. ALL other times trying to watch it I think I must have fallen asleep as I do not remember much of it other than it annoying me.
Dude FANTASTIC point about people having different strengths, but not defining ourselves with these strengths or weaknesses, and being kind to all, regardless of talent
I have wondered for a while, what happened to all of those in the service cores when order 66 came down? They would have been far more far flung, and integrated with the people of various worlds, than most of the Jedi. Also, while most of them would have been of lower power, surely there were some with higher counts that chose (or were called by the force) to enter one of the service cores, and did not seek to become full Jedi. They would have been little combat threat to the Sith, but they could have preserved a lot of knowledge from the order, and also they would represent force-sensitive gene lines from which more powerful sensitives could be born.
In truth, General Grievous was one of the best warriors in the galaxy at that time. The Clone wars saga and the revenge of the sith didn't really do justice to how powerful General Grievous truly is.
@@ClarkKulper That is what's app unrealistic (!!!) about superhero movies/ comics. Of course you would want controls and identification of every ability. Imagine Professor X's Power in the hands of say Weinsten or Epstein. Or just the local school bully is a walking tank. Still it would be interesting when a angry young black teenage girl has the power level of Superman. But the real risk is someone with a political agenda or fanaticism and powers that allow them to implement them - a crazy narcissist with the ability to control minds.
"midiclorians ruined the force and star wars universe" G Lucas: planned to have an explanation for the force from the very beginning "imma pretend I didn't see that"
The topic of midichlorians is quite interesting when we think about the dogmatic views of the Jedi. On the one hand, they recruit younglings with the highest midicholorian count, but on the other hand, they prohibit members from founding families and getting children. Luke and Leia established that a high midichlorian count can be passed from parents to children. Those three premisses are leading to a drain on the raw galactic midichlorian count over the cause of the "Golden Age" of the Jedi (from ~1000 BBC until Order 66) and generally through the millenia the Jedi Order existed. And this leads to an interesting conclusion: Is the destruction of the Jedi Order actually a good thing for the Force? In the short run, a lot of midichlorians are being destroyed due to the deaths of the most numerous inhabitors of them, but in the long run, the number of midichlorians in the general population is rising. Holding that thought, was Palpatine basically the Chosen One for the Dark Side, chosen by the Force to end the drain on midichlorians perpetrated by the Jedi? And while thinking about that, here is another interesting thing: The theme of the Force actually being protective of itself is also a part of some legends stories, most notably of the Yuuzhan Vong story arc: After committing great atrocities against all living things in their galaxy, the Yuuzhan Vong were "expelled" from the Force. They killed all and everything in their galaxy, being responsible for the destruction of a great many midichlorians. And unlike in "our" galaxy, attempts by the Force to counteract that destruction with Chosen Ones failed, so the Force left the Yuuzhan Vong as a last resort to protect itself. My take on the entire topic of force-potential being passed down the generations is, that many people are mistaking it as the only way midichlorians are being created. I'd rather say that it is "a" way, but that midichlorians are also just appearing randomly in people.
IIrc, some Jedi were allowed to marry. Ki Adi Mundi was allowed to due to males of his species being rare. It was certainly uncommon, and the council didn't like it, but it happened.
I always interpreted the midichlorian count to be the opposite of conventional wisdom. Instead of it being the midichlorian count that determines your Force potential, I always thought it better to mean that your potential was your potential, and the midichlorians would be attracted to you in numbers commensurate with that potential.
"Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything". Proceeds to yeet a man like a jogun fruit.
When u become a force ghost u like "become one with the force". Ur basically made of force. And ya like @Films AboutBurgers said, midichlorians are just attracted to the force, they don't necessarily bestow it
Where would you have put Chirrut Imwe, the blind Kyber Crystal Temple priest from Rogue One? He's obviously more than just sensitive but not on the level of a Jedi recruit
Well Anakin had the 501st with him, and though he did kill a lot of jedi, there couldn't have been that many in the temple (At this point it was the climax of the Clone Wars, so most jedi would be off-world or just returning from their missions). The jedi that did remain were likely to be less skilled ones, since most of the jedi council were killed or were off world, and of the remaining jedi a lot of them must have been padawans and younglings.
I view midichlorians as beings the ‘feed’ off the force energy of a living being. Of course, since the force is an outside source, it can’t be completely drained (I think). So the stronger one is with the force, the more midichlorians their body can support. At least, that’s how I’ve always interpreted it...
Plo-moon was definitely more powerful than most jedi knights and even a large amount of Jedi masters, his midichlorian rate must have been higher seeing as he is the only Jedi to be able to use the light side variant of force lightning, electric judgement.
I believe mastery matters a lot in these cases. Anakin had pure and clear advantage of midichlorians, but Obi Wan matched with him not just in dueling skills, but even when they tried to force push eachother away. Thats more than just what form of lightsaber combat he used, its like arm wrestling. They were both able to give same power output
when i saw the title preview with Owen Lars at the beginning, my very first thought was "The Farmer Level". I laughed out loud and watched the video. Good job, sir.
i always found the concept of midiclorians to be awsome, and i never understood why so much people hate them, for me, they are like the power levels in DBZ, something nice to see in the characters. i always liked statistics, besides, midiclorians dont determine how good a jedi you are, just your potential of learning.
@Logan Waltz they are not bacteria... specialy because bacterias tend to be bigger or the same size as cells (since they are themselfs, cells) midiclorians live inside the cells. here is the thing tough, before midiclorians, the force was mithical, the idea was that anyone can be a jedi, as long as the force decides that "they are worth it" this is a beautiful concept of course, but midiclorians do not take this concept away, as a matter of fact, they state it as a fact... we all have midiclorians, all of us... some of us have more than others, but they are inside everyone. the best way to explain "god" is by science... the laws of nature, god (in this case, the force) would create a set of rules in which the universe would exist, gravity, relativity... and, add to that... midiclorians... just because something is scientific, doesnt mean one cannot give a spritual meaning to it, specialy because Star Wars was always about a perfect mix between technology and spirituality.
Modern earth: hey guys, notice how space does not stop projectiles? We can literally start shooting as soon as we detect them at kuiper belt! Oh look, they seems to beam in pretty much any unidentified craft into their precious Star Destroyers, can we like jury rig nukes in a space station and then send an automated "secret plans message" from it?
My takeaway is that midichlorians are the force talking to you. The more you have, the louder the voice. But that is just one-half of using the force. The other is how well you listen.
0:09 Actually Lucas created the concept in 1974, they were in early drafts of A New Hope and continued to be referred to as canon by Lucas in interviews. They just weren't named yet.
I just want to mention there was a mistake about the Jedi that failed to become apprentices. He mentioned that "Jedi temple guards" were in that group, but they are actually full Jedi Knights.
It's fun to see that obi wan as a mid range on the scale was able to beat Anakin in the new series. Years of training and then years of reflection made him stronger. While very little training and years of wallow made Anakin stronger than most but not stronger than obi wan
The amount of midichlorians you have is no match for the High Ground.
I’m Tom Cruise I have 500 million billion midichlorians that’s why I’m always saving earth and I even do all my own stunts you know...
@@tomcruise7095 your a genius
@TheRealBurrito31 Anakin's rage consumed him making him stupid at that current time, when he became Darth Vader he finely wised up and embraced the dark side properly and used the rage to become the most powerful Jedi/Sith ever other then myself if I was a Jedi obviously...
Having the high ground > being the chosen one
@@omarjames4145 exactly, but the High Ground Effect doesnt apply to Rey idk why
The midichlorian is the powerhouse of the cell
There was a theory I saw think it was on reddit that midchlorians where just superpowered mitochondria
lol
Anakin had suffered from Hypermidichloremia. Hyper meaning high, midichlor referring to the organisms that generate the force, and emia meaning presence in blood. High presence of Midichlorians in blood.
Anakin also suffered from Silexophobia. Silex is the Latin name for Silicon. Phobia means fear of. Silexophobia meaning fear of sand.
Tyrone is the powerhouse of my cell
I actually like the idea of Obi-Wan being this guy who achieves some amazing results without being as naturally tallented as some other people. This reminds us about how the natural gift is usually not enough, you also need determination and thought put into the process
Obi-Wan is just perfect, period.
Those are some kind words, good sir
@@obi-wankenobi6986 if only you had the courage to speak for/to Anakin even though you knew Anakin was training Padme with his "lightsaber"..
@@catssassine2278 he actually had Avery high midichlorian count comparitivelu compared to other Jedi
@@haydenwestfall8798 nope, he nearly ended up in one of the non combative corps for being so weak.
Jedi masters: have 15000+ midichlorians
Anakin with 20000: its outrageous, its unfair
Anakin watching his son that has around 18-19,000 midichlorians become a grand master: yeah I’m done with this shit
@@mrfreedomnibba1680 Unless we talking Legends Luke. That dude has unlimited midichlorians.
@@nanochad2979 yes anakin would have been much stronger than his son but he got oofed and didn’t force ecinst transfer
@@nanochad2979 no he didn’t because he was a half blood
Yo dudes the empires pretty chill, maybe you could join it or something
That explains why Han would 'have a bad feeling about this'
C3PO and BB8 both say it!
Elijah George;Thank you, however, I know what the line is. I've followed Star Wars since 1977! I wasn't asking a question! I replied to someone who indicated that the line is uttered by Force Users! Yet in Return of the Jedi C3PO says it to R2, and in The Last Jedi, BB-8 says it to Poe! My point being, that makes these droids sensitive to the Force.
@@lukewheeldon8025 I believe Luke said it first just before they were being pulled into the Death Star by the tractor beam . Han said it when they were in the garbage chute after they rescued Leia.
There is one class above the 25,000 mark and since you have been talking about legends in your video I have to add it. Abeloth (a living dark side death star).
That phrase was popularized by a Mandolorian reporter if I'm not mistaken. I think it was like his catchphrase
I'm pretty sure that if we DIDN'T have midichlorians, then people would be upset about the fact that we don't have an explanation for how the force is used.
People were upset because they assumed the midichlorians explained the force rather than what they actually were which was a side effect of the force. Midichlorians are attracted to force sensitives they dont cause the sensitivity
Stopreadingmyusername not true. It is literally what George says allows everyone to touch the force and makes you force sensitive.
Wrong, it's an energy field that surrounds us and binds us. Good enough.
JelloFluoride it’s amazing how people try to go against what the creator said. The midichlorians generate the energy field. You’re not wrong and neither am I.
@@keikaider that is precisely right 💯 everything that the creator of star wars said is true but you gon always have people that only hear what they wanna hear
7th level: Jar Jar Binks, the Real Sith Lord, and the almighty LEGO Gonk Droid, who, together, are The Force Itself
Jar Jar Binks is a master of the Darth Plagueis.
And yet he would be only a student under Rey! ... ah.
Jar jar has a midichlorian count of 40,000
If done right, the end fight between Yoda and Darth Jars would have been fun
Or maybe Darth Binks created sidious as a clone with an inhibitor chip
I think Padme was maybe one of those who were marginally force-sensitive (around 5000 or more). She was a very good shot, very attuned to other people's emotions, far more empathetic than most people and very intuitive.
I'd say she's closer to 7 or 8 thousand. Just below the level that would've gotten her kidnapped
@@randy7928 you mean asked permission to be trained in a wonderful facility with thousands of kind people
Same with ppl like Mando and Han Solo I think they probably had around 5000
Padme, Obi-Wan, even Sheev Palpatine were all in category listed as 'Can only be killed by a Skywalker'. In light of this, the Force itself would intervene and preserve them long enough to be essentially fattened for slaughter. Blaster bolts would simply go astray.
She was very powerful during combat. Even surpassing jedi. Look at the battle of geonosis, she was being targeted directly but she survived, in fact she was the first to escape her chains. Don't underestimate padme
It always pissed me of that we never got to see a prime, mature and much more technical and practiced Anakin with knowledge at the age of 30 or so with his limbs. He would of been ridiculous
we did...aren't you forgetting vader?
@@luzzafblanfranchi7450 When Obi Wan cut Anakin in half and left him burning on Mustafar, he lost about half of his midi-chlorians... the Vader we saw was just a small taste of what Anakin could've been...
Well that was essentially what luke was in legends. Legends Luke approached God status with ridiculous force feats. He was so powerful he was often used as a deus ex machina to help others out in the old stories
@@stan4234 hence why I think the legends comics is overrated, it wasn't nearly as bad as where Disney took the series but I didn't like Legends that much either, Legends started off amazing but as it went on it made it almost Star Trek like with a lot of the stories, it stopped feeling like Star Wars, I think people hype Legends up so much because they'd of just rather the new trilogy be based off of legends rather then a generic Mary Sue timeline like Disney made. Luke was never meant to pass Anakin it didn't make sense lore wise
The legends novels were awesome, I read about 100 of those suckers, ni joke.
OK that's cool, but what about the droid attack on the wookies
Those poor wookiees!
We must send a task force there immediately
What happened afterwards?
Order 66 hit while they were mopping up, did the Clones also turn on the Wookies, did they stop fighting the CIS? Did the Wookies react to the Clones gunning down the Jedi (well they tried to with Yoda and got taken out, was he the one Jedi there…).
Or were the Wookies and the Clones celebrating the victory when the Wookies asked where Yoda was so he could join in the party, and the Clones looked uncomfortable "we no speak Wookie…?"
@@casbot71 I'm pretty sure Luminara Unduly was present on Kashyyyk during Order 66. Also the clones wen on a rampage killing a majority of the Wookies knowing they where loyal to the Jedi.
Good relations with the Wookiee’s I have
Midichlorians are a pretty nifty idea if I’m completely honest. And I mean it is George’s creation of people don’t like it he should’ve told them to bite it poor fella
I dont get why people dont like them.
theyd have to be based on Mitochondrion
ReconPuffin Cause people don’t like the force being explained by science. In a sci-fi fantasy movie. What the guy said in the beginning, though; if the force and Jedi have existed for thousands of years, yeah, no shit someone would have thought “hey why don’t we figure out why we can literally manipulate things with our minds”. George felt this concept explained enough without changing what the Force does.
I agree with the midiclorian concept. It makes sense to try to explain the mystic unknown with science
j b, and even then, the franchise is meant to be a science fantasy more than science fiction. But as the Force is repeatedly stated to be connected heavily to living things, with Obi Wan describing it as “An Energy Field Created By All Living Things” and Yoda stating “For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter”
As someone who was given a certificate of “Jedi knight” back in 2006 from post Disneyfied Star Wars..... *at Disneyland*
I can say my Midiclorian count is pretty high my dudes
My is 13,000
66th comment. Execute order 66...
@@SeeTheHalf725 Mine is 69,000
Disney bought Lucas films in 2012... so I think you mean pre* “Disneyfied”. Since Disney didn’t have Star Wars rights in 2006, not sure how they issued you a certificate...
@@patmooney1407 Disney and Lucasfilm have been partnered since the opening of Star Tours and Indiana Jones Adventure in the mid-90s.
“He [Obi-Wan] was able to defeat much more powerful force users” *shows General Grievous*
It also makes no sense to use Form 3 on someone who has a mechanical body *that doesn't tire* ...
@@grantjohnson5785 Mind does, though, and Grievous's brain is organic.
@@ДмитрийЗеленский-ж7х Fair point, though I highly doubt Grievous's brain was responsible for sole control of his body. It's one thing for Anakin's (or Luke's) brain to learn to control a mechanical hand or arm that has replaced a pre-existing limb... or even for Anakin to learn to control multiple replacement limbs in fairly short order (having had some prior experience adapting to them). But for a brain to learn how to control limbs that it never had before, or to maneuver them in ways that the old ones could not (like rapidly rotating one's wrists 360 degrees hundreds of times) seems several orders of magnitude more difficult. Something tells me Grievous had some cybernetic brain augmentation when he got his new body.
and I always wondered why no one just ragdolled Grievous around with the force lol
@@joaodala549 Because you need to focus to use the force so Greivous just didn't allow the time he overwhelmed the jedi he fought with fast strikes and four arms so they had to focus solely on blocking
I love the joke about blood transfusions being used to raise m levels since The Mandolorian just made that canon.
There are multiple arcs in the EU about attempts to infuse non-force-sensitives with force powers, both in books and games. It's not an entirely original trope, but is the first time Disney's canon has used it as a plot device.
It was also never stated that they wanted to give non force sensitives force sensitivity with Grogu’s blood as of season 2 just that they needed high midiclorian blood and the reason was never stated
Its always been in legends but just like in legends it’s incredibly hard and hasnt been perfected, thats why Palpatine was in a corpse for 36 years
woah.
WOAH.
What if, to counter clone sickness, they found that, by increasing the midi-levels in their blood by any means, it greatly decreases the odds of it manifesting? I suppose that could make sense.
Maybe creatures that grow quickly, or are artificially grown quickly, do not have enough time to properly create the necessary Midi-levels, so that the average clone would have only around 500-1000 per cell?
I might not be against Midichlorians as much anymore. Interesting.
@@Zanoscar those bodys in the tanks are probably clones. Failed attempts on cloning Palpatine. They need the blood or at least some blood to make the body a perfect vase for Palpatines soul. Just a theory though. They are researching grogus blood to make synthetic force sensitive bodys not to fill them up with the blood because grogu wont be able to even fill a lot of clones with his blood
I like the theory that Han has some force sensitivity, maybe the only real force power he has is affecting hostiles minds, making them much more likely to miss any attack they attempt.
or just knowing when he has a bad feeling about this
@@peabrain6872 Atton from KOTOR II always has a "bad feeling about this" before something bad happens, and he later becomes a Jedi after meeting the Exile.
Interesting idea. There have been scenarios like Darth Bane subconsciously influencing the minds of others to benefit himself, so I wouldn't put it out of the question.
Agreed. I mean, he DID survive the odds flying through an asteroid field. No such thing as luck!
Even when I was a little kid, I always assumed the implication was that Han had some degree of force sensitivity. Between his constant "I have a bad feeling about this" instinct and natural talent as a pilot, I always kind of assumed he had a better than average connection, just not enough to *use* it in any conscious way.
Why is noone mentioning Qui-gon, he literally teached yoda to become a forceghost
Shhhh... He will hear you!
He is probably around the Jedi Master levels of Midichlorians but knowledge and technique are not related to midichlorians
Taught*
@@MilkManCaravan tautologically speaking, doing the Yoda Grammar for the resurrection mighta been teached.
@@diegoalvarezrodriguez6248 And neither is some "supernatural s**t". Qui-Gon didn't need technique or midichlorians where he was when he taught Yoda. Which just proves that the Force goes beyond midichloreans or the purely physical.
Wait how many midichlorians would I have to open a shopping centre sliding door?
Over 9000!
Over 1 mil
At least 2
A sensor on the door 😂
Cosmo 456 don’t make me say it
I really don't mind the Midichlorians. They actually make sense in a pseudo-science way and they're essentially the Force version of mitochondria. The problem comes with the idea Qui-Gon got caught up in - A high Midi count MUST equal an equally high power level and so an equally high destiny. But just like with anything, those who train and work hard (Obi-Wan) can beat those with natural talent who skirt by doing just enough (Anakin) while those who have massive of natural talent and the work ethic of someone who doesn't can reach practically any level they want (Legends Luke)
So the solution would be:
natural talent + hard work + passion = success
@@thirdplanet4471 Yep. Amazingly enough, exactly how the majority of the best sportspeople get to the top.
@@morlath4767 l just want to say that l enjoyed your original post. One thing that does bother me about this discussion is how a lot of people demonise talent as a bad thing and even treat talented people as winners only because of talent and nothing else. But it seems that talented people have to work (some work harder than others). I don't know if you know or not but there have been those kids who get degrees at less than 10 years and l've often thought of the kind of pressure they must have to go through. Are they doing what they want or are they forced to live someone else's dream and everyone just expects them to pass and assume they don't work hard because their "talented". On the other hand some talented people become lazy and other less talented people surpass them through hard work and raise themselves to greater heights and surpass the lazy. All in all it seems to have to do with pride as the top treat the bottoms as trash and the bottom hate the ones at the top.
I also think talent is a product of hardwork instead of the "hardwork beats talent when talent doesn't work hard". Like, why must they fight? Why can't they work together? So it is a bit of a two sides of the same coin type of deal.
Side note: l do think natural aptitude would be a better word than talent. And through hard work and passion our natural aptitude can improve and reach success. I also realised just how close l am to saying the sith code but this post is already long enough.
@@morlath4767 l also forgot to mention that level 1 and level 100 progress at different speeds. Though it should be noted that not everyone can become as rich as Bill Gates. However, every one can improve, gain discipline and overcome their own personal weaknesses.
@@thirdplanet4471 Thank you and I pretty much agree with everything you've said.
For me, there is always a little "it" that natural aptitude provides that pure hard work and drive doesn't. Maybe it's instinctively known how much force to put before a throw, maybe it's having the instincts to know when to zig instead of zagging. Whatever "it" is, it allows people the chance to reach the very pinnacle of what they're good at. But only if they put the effort and hard work in to do everything else.
In really simple terms, Anakin was that kid at 11 who had the body of a 16-year-old and so could physically outperform the others. He never had to worry about finesse with the Force because he could brute force it. But that really only takes you so far.
I'm always reminded of a story I heard about a highly talented Basketball player at LSU (don't ask me the names, I've never remember them even though I always remembered the story). His teammates all knew that he was the best on the team and could easily make it into the top levels of the NBA but he had a nickname among the squad - "Just Enough." He'd show up and do just enough for training, never any more. He'd work hard but only just enough to get on the team. Players with less natural 'talent' than him became much better and went on to have solid careers while he drifted through life. He never did what he had to to make the spark that put him above his peers actually mean something. Instead, he used it as a reason not to work as hard as they did for the results they all wanted.
How is Lando so smooth with the ladies if he only has a low midichlorian count?
@Robertson Thirdly 😂
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I always tool lando and han as low level force sensitive.
Colt 45
low M high T
If I remember in one of the legends books it is quoted that Han can "sense" his daughter Jaina just before she came out to walk down the aisle during her wedding. So his "I have a bad feeling" may have something to do with the force.
Also he thought he was lucky, or just had hunches. I mean he won the falcon in a game of chance/skill so that part made perfect sense
@@mkheliotropeinc But you can also get good at games that rely on both chance and skill since the skill part is knowing when and what to risk and when to take chances. But the force probably played into what he did during the game and his "gut instincts"
In a nutshell
I wanna say obi wan had a low low midichlorian count but he wanted it and trained really hard .
ShiGGleZz nope, Obi wan had a relatively high one. That allowed him to become one with the force while he was still alive.
@@shigglezz684 obiwan was a decent bit above average in terms of midichlorian count. Like seriously he was talented
Jamie McElwain one of the few like yoda to escape order 66
Mesa 1000000
Uhhhhh Plo Koon was one of the most powerful masters on the council, and definitely upper echelon historically. Much higher than Jedi Knight level. You also need to make a distinction between force potential and force sensitivity. An individual like Kenobi was considered to have a lower than average count for an elite Jedi, but had an extremely honed sensitivity.
Ahhhh, it's good to see another master.
@@christianruvalcaba7788 I spent far too much of my youth on wookiepedia haha
Yep. Potential vs achieved level. Obi Wan had a lower potential but had pretty much pushed himself to the limit of that potential.
He was able to beat Anakin because he knew all Anakin's moves, but also because Anakin had WAY more potential, but hadn't fully honed it.
like testosterone
"Hey Qui-gon, what does the scouter say about his midichlorian level?"
"IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAND!"
It's over 9000!
I really love midichlorians. They add an element of science and mechanics to the story, instead of mindlessly writing everything off as "magic".
I also don't think it takes the mysticism out all that much. Its been said before, if you have really good science and magic, there will be attempts to quantify that magic using science. Just like in the established lore though, this scientific understanding is hardly good enough to explain the force, as people with less Ms can become better space wizards than people with more Ms
the thing i don't like is it adds some weird undertones? where some bloodlines are superior and have innate god like power?
@@FirstArchon well yes and no, as far as I know it’s never been suggested as a genetic thing. Besides bloodlines we’re in before midichlorians
@@FirstArchon That was already kinda a thing before midichlorians in the originals though, when Lukes tells Leia "the force is strong in my family" in Return of the jedi.
@@FirstArchon I mean, the whole idea of 'magic bloodlines ' is kind of the most mythological thing you could find :)
I honestly don’t hate midiclorians, they are apart of the universe and I’ll just accept them.
so how many did you lose after getting sliced and diced by obiwan?
Albert Westings I don’t want to talk about that
Albert Westings The high ground is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural
@@CyberSonic-V3.0 incredible, also im sorry i brought that jedi up Lord Vader.
@@CyberSonic-V3.0 Me Thinks I deserve a force choke.
I love the concept of midiclorians it helps us understand why not everybody is a Jedi or a Sith
@@Fgway Wait. Are the Jedi just a religion that worships the space equivalent of bacteria?
In a nutshell
@@josecook4202 Grogu is OP level??
@@Fgway Kind of. Midichlorians aren't the Force- they just pass on the will of the Force like mitochondria pass on energy and signals to hormones
The Force is still this mystical energy field - the midichlorians are just it's proxy :)
Damn, I’ve never thought of Han having a degree of Force sensitivity. Cool.
Yeah, the expanded universe made a lot more sense if you believed Han was force sensitive.
I always wondered about that. Han was able to fly the Millennium Falcon through some impossible places. He was also able to always hit his mark while shooting- whether he was looking or not
A jedi weapon-the lightsaber would only ignites by someone who connects to the force and Han was included... Boba Fett... and Finn in those lines.
Lightsabers are, with the only known exception being Darth Bane's lightsaber, extremely heavy. A lightsaber hilt can weigh anywhere between 3-5kg (6-11 lbs) according to George Lucas, around the weight of a standard medieval two-handed blade. A lightsaber shoto is the one-handed variant, which you see Ahsoka, Yoda and Ventress use, weighing roughly half as much and allowing the user to dual wield.
The reason you don't see everyone in the Star Wars universe using a lightsaber, or possessing one for close quarters combat, is because lightsabers require a degree of Force sensitivity to wield effectively. Making it the weapon of Jedi and Sith respectively. All the weight is in the hilt, it has no point of balance beyond the hilt, making it impossible for the user to know where the blade is (increasing risk of injury), requiring extremely strong wrists to manoeuvre AND years if not decades of practice in a singular or various fighting style or Form.
This is the reason Padawans often train deflecting blaster bolts while blindfolded isn't just to encourage them to use the Force and know the trajectory of the bolts, but to also encourage them to use the Force to 'feel' the plasma blade emitted.
swinging a lightsaber to a non force user would be similar to swinging a fire hose that is on full blast. It's not the weight as much as the energy.
Medieval swords aren't that heavy for the most part. Only the largest swords ever created are even close to that 12 pound mark,(but still not that heavy) and those are not meant for dueling or even hand to hand combat so much as breaking pike blocks, taking out horses legs and just creating a zone of death nobody wants to enter. 4 pounds is about the max for an every day carr y medieval sword. A lot of really large heavy swords are ceremonial wall hangers. Go try and swing a 10 pound bar around and you'll find out how difficult it is. Even when perfectly balanced.
A "standard" two handed medieval sword would weight between 1 to 1.5kg. Even the heaviest two handed sword of the 16th century, the Zweihänder, weighted between 2 to 4kg, and measured 140 to 210cm.
again he said the blade is weightless not the hilt or grip, you will not feel a forced acted upon you when the blade is hit because the blade is weightless which is why it would be difficult to use.
though this makes 0 sense since clearly 2 sabers touching clearly act a force upon each other and youd have to feel it in the grip, if SW followed basic physics principles then lightsaber blades would just pass through each other since they are basically massless light/heat.
maybe you can argue that youd feel a force acted upon you when you hit a blade of light/heat with a blade of light/heat because of colliding momentums, since it has been proven that photons do possess momentum despite being massless.
i still think the blades would pass through each other.
@@user-vv1do1wg1j Who told you that a lightsaber blade is nothing but light/heat? That's blatantly inaccurate. And just because the blade is weightless, that does not mean that you can't feel a force acted upon you when the blade hits you. If you fill a balloon with helium, that balloon is weightless, but you can still feel a force acting upon you if someone pushes that balloon into you. A big enough balloon can exert a force strong enough to lift you off the ground, and you would certainly feel it if it ran into you - despite it being weightless.
You're trying too hard to apply our technology to the world of Star Wars, and it's inaccurate to do that. We don't know how exactly the lightsaber works. All we know is that it's beyond our technological capability. Just because you saw a youtuber make a big blow torch and call it a "lightsaber" because it looks like a lightsaber, that doesn't mean that's how a lightsaber would work in Star Wars.
What we know about a lightsaber comes from what we see the lightsaber do, not from physics. You can't apply physics to an imaginary object in a world that defies our laws of physics. We see that the lightsabers very clearly do not just pass through each other, so we know that they blades would not pass through each other. We don't have to speculate about that.
Nah, Dooku would be in the 17,000 to 18,000 range. He was the Jedi Order's greatest prodigy until Anakin (the "Anakin before Anakin" as it were) He is just constantly underrated because Maul and Vader fanboys (plus dubious writing decisions in the prequels, regarding the treatment of Dooku's character) overshadow the praise (if any) Dooku tends to get in general. The only Jedi who could be considered on par with Dooku (until Anakin - and even then Dooku demonstrably kicked his ass about a dozen times in the Clone Wars before the gap closed and Dooku was beaten fully, even when he'd often have Obi Wan helping him) were Mace Windu and Yoda (cos, Yoda, nuff said) But the thing is, Dooku could be said to hold his own very well with Yoda. Dooku was Yoda's penultimate direct padawan before Cin Drallig (that is, prior to Luke Skywalker) Dooku was the star of the Jedi Order without even trying to be that hard, and tonnes of Jedi respected him, from Jocasta Nu to Ki Adi Mundi. He was one of their absolute finest in centuries if not millennia. Again, he is just badly underrated because he isn't as flashy or a raging, salivating freak when he is a Sith.
He's a smooth operator and a master of lightsaber combat. I would accept that Dooku overcomes some of his own midichlorian limitations (compared to Yoda or Anakin) but I'd say he was absolutely on par with Mace Windu. In fact, Yoda couldn't have asked for two more equally balanced compatriots in the Jedi Order - Windu VS Dooku would be absolutely spectacular (and not the one sided stomp some seem to think it is; Dooku would _not_ play into Windu's fighting style and in a one on one Dooku's energy conservation and careful precision footwork and bladework, going up against the raw kinetic power of Windu and his far more aggressive and acutely ferocious style, would be fascinating)
Yes, Dooku will struggle (in his advanced years) to generate the kinetic energy to meet Windu's frenzy, yet Dooku's own style is rather ideal to diffuse the main aim of Vaapad. Makashi can misdirect and redirect the entire fight onto the practitioner's terms, and _no_ practitioner was ever quite as good at Makashi as Dooku was.
Just as Yoda exemplifies and embodies Ataru, just as Obi Wan came to be the consumate champion of Soresu, just as Anakin dominated in Djem So and just as Windu cornered the field on Vaapad, Makashi was Dooku's thing. Only Soresu would be better suited to handling the strategy of Vaapad, in terms of not giving the Vaapad user what he wanted (stonewalling it, Kenobi style) But due to the more dynamic attributes of Vaapad offensively, it would be harder for the Soresu master to counterattack with so much energy devoted to defence. Tiring the Vaapad user out would be the goal. But if this is Mace Windu we're talking about, good luck with that. Dooku VS Windu would be such a sight to behold. Dooku was the only other Jedi in the Order who beat Windu in sparring sessions, besides Yoda (now yes, Windu was far younger then, but so was Dooku) Neither would be spring chickens when rematching in the scenario where they fight in the Clone Wars. In a way, Dooku and Windu are in the same ''echelon'' or ''tier''. Dooku knows Windu's fighting qualities very well, and would not underestimate him or let him take advantage.
They are absolutely on each other's level and absolutely masters of their preferred forms. Obi Wan constantly got picked apart by Dooku, though ironically I think Obi Wan would perform better VS Mace Windu. Mace would probably get the win via sheer overwhelming power, yet Obi Wan could deal with Windu's bladework for a prolonged time. Sidious arguably didn't ''lose'' to Windu, he was throwing the fight because he was counting on Anakin to witness and participate in the murder to fully implicate him and make him turn to the dark side. He was using his own life as bait. Windu failed as a Jedi the moment he tried to strike Sidious down anyway. He let his own passion for the Republic, blind him from the danger stood right next to him. Sidious knew that and preyed on it, betting his own life that Anakin would step in (to save Padme, more than himself) But that didn't matter. As soon as he "had him" that was that. No going back from Darth Vader (or so he thought) Dooku and Windu, in my opinion, are on par with Vader post-Mustafar in power and ability. Vader (mutilated and maimed) was always roughly 8/10 Palpatine's power after that. It makes Obi Wan's victory all the more telling, and impressive, because Vader's none mutilated full biomass potential, was meant to be literally twice Palpatine's if he kept on going.
"Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us!" - Sidious to Yoda, Episode III. What I find crazy about Sidious saying that, is how it basically confirms he was willing to risk making an apprentice go beyond himself (Sidious is strange in having a line up of apprentices and not seeming to conventionally follow the Rule of Two, outright intending to kill off Dooku it seems from the start) So, him of all people saying with assertive, smug pride, that Vader would go well beyond either himself or Yoda, to Yoda's face, is him openly admitting to Yoda it might kill him (Yoda knows what the Sith get up to and how they betray each other) For Sidious to even allow that chance of happening, makes it seem like he would rather die for the Sith Order than pass up on the chance of adding Anakin to it's ranks. It shows that even Palpatine put something before his own life, in my opinion. By even risking training Vader, knowing what might happen to himself, he at least had to think about the possibility of Vader killing him like he did to Plagueis.
Sure, Sidious probably just wanted to try and control and manipulate Vader to make sure he survived, but if that went wrong he wouldn't be able to stop Vader and he must have known that full well. So it does imply that even Sidious was considering allowing himself to die for the greater good of the Sith. What happened to Vader was therefore bittersweet to him because he just resumed using someone less powerful than himself, but all the time he was using Vader as an Imperial enforcer, he was openly disappointed with him. It's why he was so eager to replace him with Luke (a carbon copy almost of Anakin in power, if not with the raw potential to go beyond) Makes you wonder about Sidious.
Oh wait, sorry, how silly, REY is stronger than everyone and is the bestest force user everrr -.- something something ''diads'' something something emo Ren something something they fly now?
Dude. Best ending to a long comment. Everrrrr
@@thetravelerformallyknowasw7912Old woman randomly passing by a derelict house in the desert totally not suspiciously and totally not probably looking for somewhere to take a shit: Rey who?......
Rey: *ReY SkYwAlKeR*
Sheev Palpatine in the netherworld of the force, casually: (facepalms at Mach 3)
Uncle Owen in space heaven: _Get out of my house_
I am so glad that I took time to read your comment. I nearly skipped over it.
@@alexanderson5143 May the grace of the Valar be upon you
Made it trough that comment, honly fuck im a Boss :Sunglasses:
Allen: * calls Kit Fisto and Plo Koon Jedi Knights *
Their seats in the council chambers that feel warm: *AM I A JOKE TO YOU?!*
then calls kit fisto a master when he fights palpatine... so which is it
@@Matthew-zc5ow he atleast didn't die in a second like the other 2 noobs. Plus, there is an actuall explanation. So, Palpatine mastered ALL 7 forms of lightsaber combat and he used form 7 which is very rare and used by Sith so he was too fast and they probably haven't seen that form before. Boom. Explanation.
@@Matthew-zc5ow both Jedi Knight before they trained a Padawan and Jedi Master after training a Padawan.
@@michaelmckinnon1591 but obi wan trained Anakin as a Jedi knight? Same with Anakin that trained Ashoka?
This is outrageous, this is unfair
Let me explain Midichlorians in it's basics.
Get ready for Star Wars Health Class 101.
You have Midichlorians. We all do.
Midichlorians are what essentially make the Force what it is.
Ben Kenobi told us so. It's an energy field surrounding all living creatures. It's not a super power some gifted few have.
The higher the Midichlorians the EASIER the Force is to use.
So anybody can use the force in some way. It's just much much much easier for a Jedi like Luke Skywalker to do so and use more of the Force than say Chewbacca.
And if you still hate them... It's fucking *FICTION* all of it.
Makes complete sense ngl
While I agree that the midichlorians are an interesting addition to the franchise, the fact that it happens to be fictional does not mean it can't be criticized. This "argument" is very weak and basically boils down to: It doesn't exist therefore you have no right to care about it and it's applications to said fictional world. You're not defending the midichlorians in any way by saying this, all that you're stating is: Stop caring about fiction and don't attempt any form of criticism for the sole reason that it is part of a fictional universe. Instead of brushing off any criticism of any aspect in fiction with that lazy and tired "argument", try to make an argument defending it with logic and reason.
If i am understanding your 101 Class correctly. Nobody should have an opinion about something fictional if they don't like it? So, it is okay to like something fictional but you have an issue if someone doesn't like it? It is hard to argue/debate against feelings and emotions. This is why discourse to ascertain why people feel they way they do about things is a more productive endeavor. One can gain a perspective that they wouldn't have before, had they just dismissed the other's thoughts/feelings/opinions.
For example:
For those who grew up with only episodes 4-6, there were 22 years before the concept of midichlorians came around. This is a long time to fill in the gaps of a franchise that notoriously left things vague up to that point (on many subjects). 22 years to fill in the gaps as one's imagination allowed (or see legends universe). This created an investment into the thoughts and ideas one came up with or with the general idea already given of the Force being more of a mystical energy field of ambiguous nature. Then presumably, for many, the midichlorian revelation was a letdown and in a sense a rewrite/undoing. I don't see this as being a big thing, in general, for those who grew up with episodes 1-6 as they got the whole pie from the beginning. They probably didn't have the mental investment into that part of things since it was already explained. It is all about perspective.
@TruthseekerWes very well said. I simply can't understand the notion of ''it's fiction therefore you can't complain or critique it in any way, shape or form''. That does not constitute as an argument. All the commenter stated was: Shut up and enjoy product, no matter if said product is of quality or not. Yet that exact argument not only undermines fiction's importance in society but also ultimately downplays the impact it can have on people’s lives around the globe.
@@nikoniortnike I agree completely. The point of art, whether it is movies, music, paintings, etc is to illicit an emotional response, i.e. form an opinion of said media and take from it what you will. Many fictional things inspire people in great ways and give them strength in difficult times. You can't discount fiction when it becomes part of a society. When it becomes part of a bond that unites various cultures and races across the globe. It has had real world effects and influences. It is an extreme disservice to say none of this should matter because, fiction.
I love how old Han Solo looked shocked when he shot the stormtrooper without looking.
I wonder what level the Family of Mortis would be at since they are basically embodiment of certain aspects of the Force
Over 9000?
@@Wolfy1012 The answer is Yes
yes
They are basically gods, so a lot of midichlorians
Assuming that the Ones are indeed mortals with high midichlorian counts, they're probably just below Anakin in terms of raw power.
I can't believe you didn't mention Han's "I got a bad feeling about this" moments as evidence of his Force sensitivity.
I mean, BB8 and C3PO say it, are they force sensitive? Plenty of people in real life said that before 1977, are they force-sensitive? Sure, this could be a biproduct of Han's slight force-sensitivity, and Leia also said it, and she's certainly force-sensitive, but you can't use it as evidence when it's quite a common thing to say.
One of my favorite scenes from the EU was Luke testing Wedge Antilles's force sensitivity and being amazed that Wedge had no sensitivity whatsoever. He was just a man who was driven, disciplined and extraordinary outside the force.
The midicholrians are one of the most interesting things in star wars I wish they went more into depth about it
Lucas planned to do so in his sequels but .... well, his ideas got thrown in the bin
:/
I'm still waiting for the ewok steak house Alan
Personally I hear that Gungan legs cooked in the Coruscanti style are truly a delicacy fit for the Emperor.
What about some juicy wookie wings
@@Harryofbath personally from where I'm from Wookies are pets so I'd never even consider eating them.
Need me some Mon Cala jambalaya
@@CalebJoshuaGallaugher Sounds tasty!
i love the concept of the midi-chlorians, don't know why people hate it so much, it does not take away the mystical aspects of the force, but adds to it, because it's not how much of it you have, it's how you use it.
Anakin has a huge amount because he was a creation of the force itself to counter the growing darkness of Plagueis and Sidious, it always goes for balance, so, when light or dark go too far it acts to balance things again, that's why both Jedi and Sith are wrong, specially the Jedi, that talk about balance, but only go for light. The answer is the middle, it's ok to feel emotions, just don't let them drive your actions, you don't have to be an emotionless monk nor a psycopath, just live your life and use the force as another tool in your arsenal.
The masses dislike intricacy and detail because it takes individuals to become interested in things at such levels and people. They accuse non casual fans of anything of being elitist and would rather ruin entire lores and communities than admit theres a higher level of fandom that is more fun and rewarding and that through deliberate actions they have ro bed themselves of being a part of it.
The snarky comment level is higher than master's yoda in this video :) love it
I love your channel
@@redMrCrayon thank you
When you realize that one of your favorite channels also watches another of your favorite channels 😱😱😱
@@edgray8716 great minds think alike :)
Which Star Wars planet are you planning on visiting?
It makes sense to me now why Mace Windu was so dogmatic and rigid. He required exceptional discipline to stay balanced with the force and not fall to the dark side.
“But how can magic come from germs?” The same way an STD comes from LOVE
I... you know what, that kind works
Big oof
No no he’s got a point
HE IS THE CHOSEN ONE! THE WISER AMONGST THE WISEST
lol
anyone else having the problem that generation tech videos aren’t being recommended, even after having watched probably 100-200 generation tech videos?
Daniel Tober are you subscribed?
I never considered that but its definitely true. I get recommended videos from channels I am subscribed to and ones I'm not. Google and UA-cam always show me starwars stuff but not generation tech.
CloneCaptainMax CC-5959 yup, have been for at least a year i believe
just noticed i even had notifications turned on, but it was set to personalized. haven’t gotten any notifications from them in months. turned it to all now. i’d expect this from political channels youtube doesn’t like, but not from genration tech. maybe youtube likes dolphins...
Its the opposite. I've never watched this dude and I got recommended this video from the Halo Infinite trailer.
Edit: opposite FOR ME not for everyone. Sorry I didn't specify
Anakin: Being the chosen one and the one with the one with the highest midichlorian count in all history is one of the top jedi and later sith in history as it is logical because just by “science” (his midiclorian count being the highest) he should be the strongest.
Rei and Palpatine in the rise of the Skywalker: Literally having godly powers for no reason.
As much as I hate episode 9 Rey and Palpatine being op in the finale makes sense cause they were both being assisted by Sith Lords and Jedi knights from the past
@Just a random femboy good question
“Us Star Wars fans have mixed feelings about midichlorians, without them The Mandolorian wouldn’t exist,”
Rey must be at like 300k. *Hits rock with lightsaber* "k, I'm a master now"
Rey's probably in the higher two categories, somewhere between Mace Windu and Palpatine.
@@danmenard6917 if shes beating kilo wren in their first fight when kilo has trained for years and she has zero training and then becoming super powerful after training her self when Luke refused to then shes gotta have midiclorians even higher then anakin
@@jdkskwkwjdjxjfen She didn't beat Kylo Ren in their first fight, though. He was injured, emotionally compromised, and had just fought Finn, however briefly. Rey was on the back foot the entire fight.
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Even in Rise of Skywalker, it showed Kylo Ren outclassed Rey as a duelist in every way due to the years of training he had over her. Even when faced with Snoke in The Last Jedi, Rey had zero chance of beating him if it weren't for Kylo Ren's intervention.
@@danmenard6917 even holding her own is insane having zero experience with a lightsaber. Then theres also the point where she practically trained herself. Shes gotta have atleast the same as anakin.
@@jdkskwkwjdjxjfen Lower. Anakin was able to stalemate two Force gods.
I see Dooku, I click.
I'm a simple man.
+1
Same tho.
66 likes palpatine “execute order 66” clone “it will be done my lord”
Who cares?
@@arth8265 me
Palpatine and Yoda: I’ve got a reading of 20000
Rey: I’ve got an error message
I'd probably give Rey around 15,000. Less than Anakin or Palpatine, but still more than the average Force-Sensitive.
@@jdynamite2208 No, just no. That's not what Disney thinks, and it's embarrassing for you that you think it.
@@jdynamite2208 As I recall, George didn't have much love for the old Star Wars universe either. Bringing up his distaste for the new canon doesn't really mean much.
@@jdynamite2208 ....so you haven't watch them?
@@jdynamite2208 Why she's powerful: The blood of Palpatine + a connection with a Skywalker. Alone she's formidable, with Kylo she's near unbeatable.
Character development: She goes from wanting a purpose in life, finding out her "purpose" is to be evil, denying it, and become a Jedi despite her dark bloodline. Nothing too fancy, but still cool imo.
Every time she's lost a fight: Got beaten by Luke, before cheating to get out of it. Got beaten by Snoke. Got f**king killed by Palpatine. And got beaten by Kylo on DS2
Every time she's "won" a fight: She barley got away from a half dead Kylo. She cheated in her fight against Luke by pulling a Lightsaber on him. And I guess it was her body used by the Jedi Ghosts to destroy Palpatine.
9:27 again. Beautifully illustrated with that scene. That battle was epic. Two highly defensive combatants duking it out makes for an excellent show. Utapau is my favorite battle from the prequel trilogy.
I would say yoda vs dooku was my favorite, with anikan vs obi wan and yoda vs palpatine tied for second, as well as mace windu vs palpatine in third.
So I've always imagined the ability to control the force to be made of two things, your attunement to the force (Medichlorian count) which is like, natural talent, and then experience. Almost any jedi who would work hard enough could be able to do almost anything, for example. Obi-Wan Kenobi would be an example of that. He dedicated his life to facing Sith Lords and destroying huge amount of battle droids easily. His mastery of soresu was unparalleled amongst the jedi of his time, which would make him one of the best duelist. I like to believe that according to this fact, he could beat Dooku in a duel, or close to, at the end of the clone wars. The only reason he got bested was because Anakin sucks at team work.
Then again, it's my very own interpretation.
unpopular opinion, but i like the idea of midochlorians. it explains so much more about anakin. it goes along with how he was born, why he had such raw power, and why his fighting was so much more sloppy than obi wans. he was so naturally gifted that he didnt put as much effort into his training like obi wan did
he was at least on the same level as obi wan in terms of sword abilities, but his overconfidence was what got the best of his
His fighting was sloppy because he was a padawan who started training very late
I love how Jedi training is like jiujitsu. With a lot of dedication and training you can defeat someone generally considered to be far more powerful!
Respect to mentioning Finn as a cut above the average sentient being in terms of Force-sensitivity, comfortably having about double the average count. After all, he was paraded on the cover of episode VII with a lightsaber yet is never overtly demonstrated as force-sensitive in any meaningful way in the sequel trilogy. Methinks JJ wanted to covertly throw a few bones Boyega's way in compensation for being sold short (particularly by Rian Johnson). Finn did more than fight well with a near-weightless weapon on first use. His knowledge of the workings of the First Order, and even more mysteriously, the Final Order, seriously outstrip his rank, duties, and his experience on active duty with the former entity, and are totally unexplainable regarding the latter entity. He suspiciously differentiated the presence vs absence of hidden emplacements on a ship class he was entirely unfamiliar with. If he isn't Force-sensitive, his behavior suggests innate genius-level spatial intelligence and mechanical intuition, potentially exceeding human history's top engineers in terms of his intuitions regarding the built environment, even giving Anakin's repair skills some competition!
Being in the construction business I wish I had those "powers", regarding what's hidden behind some of these old walls, to instantaneously asses the scope of a renovation project!
Schools: The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
Generation Tech: The midichlorian is the powerhouse of the Force.
Kathleen Kennedy be like: ReY hAs A mIdI-cHlOrIaN cOuNt Of 50 ThOuSaNd
BCuz ShE iS tHe BeStEstT jEdI EvAr!
I just died a little
he prolly thinks its way higher then that :/ like 100k or even 200K+ cause no one shouldt comapre to her >.>
EMPRESS REY NOBODY-PALPASHEEV: I am ALL the Midichlorians!!
Rey is actually a human sized midichlorian
I think the idea of midichlorians is a lot better than the “anyone can be a Jedi” trope that The Last Jedi tried to push. That’s not the way the world works. Some people are born more smart or talented than others, but it depends on what you do with what you’re given. There’s heroes in the Star Wars universe without high midichlorians that still did great things and others like Anakin that had talent that he wasted. “Do the best you can with what you’re given” is a much more empowering and realistic message than “You can be anything you want to be”
Like Lando, he isn't force sensitive but had the same achievement of Luke Skywalker in blowing up a death star. So someone not force sensitive managed the greatest feat of the most force sensitive.
@@ttv_mrjack6749 Exactly, all it took was a little bravery and the fastest ship in the galaxy.
I mean isnt someone born from someone unremarkable anyone? The point is that power doesn't have to come from bloodlines and people obsessed way too much with who was born from who etc.
Cuttlefish I do understand the criticism of the sort of eugenic idea that the Jedi’s superiority is inherited rather than earned. Although, in the days of the republic, the Jedi weren’t allowed to reproduce and there were still many new force sensitive children. I can see how the sequels could be perceived as nepotistic since they made Rey a Palpatine, but there was really no other way to explain her being so powerful with no training. It’s just the Star Wars universe. We may scoff at nepotism in our own world, but it’s easier for the audience to understand relationships when people are related. Like I feel like it made Rey more part of the story, which is centered around Skywalker and Palpatine, since she just appeared out of the blue and was the central character (with ZERO character flaws apparently but that’s another story🙄).
"More smart" lmao am guessing you are not.
I really wish we could get some comics or novels about the Exploration Corps. I'd love to see the adventures of Jedi archaeologists going around the galaxy exploring ancient tombs and discovering lost civilizations.
“and about half if you live next to a 5G tower” 😂
Really? Midichlorians were in "the Last Jedi"? I don't remember that part. But I also don't remember most of that movie and I remember seeing that movie in theaters.
i remember feeling my braincells dying one by one as i watched it
You all watched the last jedi? In theaters too? Tragic
in the book "Star Wars: The Secrets of the Jedi" (which takes place JUST before Luke Skywalker sacrifices himself in The Last Jedi), Luke says he personally doesnt care how the Force whispers to him, only that it does. He takes a dim view of using Midichlorians to determine whether someone is worthy of Jedi-hood or not.
@@laoaidan2400 I think i streamed it illegally, I can't remember. I can't even think of a single moment from that movie
I have watched that movie 6 times and zoned out each time when in the theater I noticed the floor needed cleaning covered in crushed popcorn and soda.
In the house I noticed that the ewok needed brushing the little thing kept hitting me with a copstick he thinks is a spear soooo cute how dumb he is, when I finally got the last knot out of him I noticed the credits were finishing :/
Most recent time trying to watch it I noticed my carpet needed cleaning so I hoovered and washined it. ALL other times trying to watch it I think I must have fallen asleep as I do not remember much of it other than it annoying me.
Hello there I'm here to lend my support! The Force will be with you always!
General Kenobi
We’ve been expecting you
@@landonenns Hello there!
You are a bold one
@@generalobiwankenobi9327 r/prequelmemes in a nutshell
Everyone: Rey the Mary Sue has an infinite midiclorian count per cell
Coleman Trebor: *How to count past infinity*
Jedi Bob’s we’re going into the imaginary plane of numbers
Trebor has Aleph 10 midiclorians. Look the number up, it is past infinity.
Numbers are not adequate to count Rey's midiclorian count; that can only be recorded as "Kennedy's"
@@Nokturnt Apparently you didn't look up with an Aleph is. The definition of "infinity" means anything larger is just infinity.
The big unanswered question: Does a high midiclorin count protect against Covid-19?
If so that means a vaccine might have _interesting consequences._
Vaccines and 5G will alter it. Covid is a common cold.
@Ruosong Gao Research and question things for yourself.
So in short:
-Pleb
-Uncanny intuition
-Sensitive but no real superpowers
-Standard Jedi
-Incredible prodigy
-*HORRIFIED SCREECHING*
What is George Lucas' Midichlorian level?
Over 69 thousand
His Midichlorian level is Maximum!
He is made up of only Midichlorians
4.05 billion to be specific according to statistics.
420 thousand per cell
Dude FANTASTIC point about people having different strengths, but not defining ourselves with these strengths or weaknesses, and being kind to all, regardless of talent
I have wondered for a while, what happened to all of those in the service cores when order 66 came down? They would have been far more far flung, and integrated with the people of various worlds, than most of the Jedi. Also, while most of them would have been of lower power, surely there were some with higher counts that chose (or were called by the force) to enter one of the service cores, and did not seek to become full Jedi. They would have been little combat threat to the Sith, but they could have preserved a lot of knowledge from the order, and also they would represent force-sensitive gene lines from which more powerful sensitives could be born.
They were hunted by darth Vader to be killed
9:21, “(Kenobi) was able to defeat much more powerful force users.” Then why would you show the clip of him fighting General Grievous?
In truth, General Grievous was one of the best warriors in the galaxy at that time. The Clone wars saga and the revenge of the sith didn't really do justice to how powerful General Grievous truly is.
Grievous is no force user. His abilities come from his cybernetics.
@@Gachmara grievous couldnt use the force
@@parkeydee yes but be he killed dozens of Jedi without the force
@@jadenhardman7118 yes he did he was a very skilled warrior even before his cybernetic upgrades, then eventual full cyborg body.
I kinda wish the Force was real
I'm thankful it isn't. Imagine everyone you know.... Then think about the worst person you know having those abilities. 😐
@@ClarkKulper Yeah that's true.
No shit
@@ClarkKulper The Jedi will stop them.
@@ClarkKulper That is what's app unrealistic (!!!) about superhero movies/ comics. Of course you would want controls and identification of every ability.
Imagine Professor X's Power in the hands of say Weinsten or Epstein.
Or just the local school bully is a walking tank.
Still it would be interesting when a angry young black teenage girl has the power level of Superman.
But the real risk is someone with a political agenda or fanaticism and powers that allow them to implement them - a crazy narcissist with the ability to control minds.
"Not all Jedi get to go on Fancy Missions, Boink Sentators and save the Galaxy" 😂😂
"midiclorians ruined the force and star wars universe"
G Lucas: planned to have an explanation for the force from the very beginning
"imma pretend I didn't see that"
The topic of midichlorians is quite interesting when we think about the dogmatic views of the Jedi. On the one hand, they recruit younglings with the highest midicholorian count, but on the other hand, they prohibit members from founding families and getting children. Luke and Leia established that a high midichlorian count can be passed from parents to children. Those three premisses are leading to a drain on the raw galactic midichlorian count over the cause of the "Golden Age" of the Jedi (from ~1000 BBC until Order 66) and generally through the millenia the Jedi Order existed. And this leads to an interesting conclusion: Is the destruction of the Jedi Order actually a good thing for the Force? In the short run, a lot of midichlorians are being destroyed due to the deaths of the most numerous inhabitors of them, but in the long run, the number of midichlorians in the general population is rising. Holding that thought, was Palpatine basically the Chosen One for the Dark Side, chosen by the Force to end the drain on midichlorians perpetrated by the Jedi?
And while thinking about that, here is another interesting thing: The theme of the Force actually being protective of itself is also a part of some legends stories, most notably of the Yuuzhan Vong story arc: After committing great atrocities against all living things in their galaxy, the Yuuzhan Vong were "expelled" from the Force. They killed all and everything in their galaxy, being responsible for the destruction of a great many midichlorians. And unlike in "our" galaxy, attempts by the Force to counteract that destruction with Chosen Ones failed, so the Force left the Yuuzhan Vong as a last resort to protect itself.
My take on the entire topic of force-potential being passed down the generations is, that many people are mistaking it as the only way midichlorians are being created. I'd rather say that it is "a" way, but that midichlorians are also just appearing randomly in people.
IIrc, some Jedi were allowed to marry. Ki Adi Mundi was allowed to due to males of his species being rare. It was certainly uncommon, and the council didn't like it, but it happened.
Hey, my mom could hold a lightsaber blade too!
I always interpreted the midichlorian count to be the opposite of conventional wisdom. Instead of it being the midichlorian count that determines your Force potential, I always thought it better to mean that your potential was your potential, and the midichlorians would be attracted to you in numbers commensurate with that potential.
I love this concept.
I really felt it when Rey started fighting air at 1:16
"Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything". Proceeds to yeet a man like a jogun fruit.
I'll take 6 ewok flank steaks 2 ewok round roasts 5 back straps and 4 whole racks of grey ewok ribs
Never thought of this until now but If midiclorians are in the blood how does your Soul become a force ghost?
I always thought that midiclorians were attracted to the force, but not the force itself. Qui gon makes this claim when explaining it to anakin
When u become a force ghost u like "become one with the force". Ur basically made of force. And ya like @Films AboutBurgers said, midichlorians are just attracted to the force, they don't necessarily bestow it
They are beings in quantum entanglement with the force which is in itself beyond the confines of space and time
In tcw, its stated that they connect the living force and the cosmic force
Sigh living force and cosmic force
Your dry humor, without quite overdoing it, was enjoyable. Thanks.
Where would you have put Chirrut Imwe, the blind Kyber Crystal Temple priest from Rogue One? He's obviously more than just sensitive but not on the level of a Jedi recruit
I would estimate a 6000-7000 but that's just my take
@@gabi4205 ye
I been reading these comments about how Luke was so OP in the legends but yall forget that Anakin destroyed the Jedi temple in one night.
Well Anakin had the 501st with him, and though he did kill a lot of jedi, there couldn't have been that many in the temple (At this point it was the climax of the Clone Wars, so most jedi would be off-world or just returning from their missions).
The jedi that did remain were likely to be less skilled ones, since most of the jedi council were killed or were off world, and of the remaining jedi a lot of them must have been padawans and younglings.
Explains Why han says: I have a baaaaaad feeling about this," even when he doesn't see the danger
Having a baaaaad feeling about something is not a proove for something
"Society more understanding and accepting of different people"
*J. Jonah Jameson laughing meme* "Are you serious?"
I view midichlorians as beings the ‘feed’ off the force energy of a living being. Of course, since the force is an outside source, it can’t be completely drained (I think). So the stronger one is with the force, the more midichlorians their body can support.
At least, that’s how I’ve always interpreted it...
That is canon.
The midichlorians only 'feed' if you are truly dark a lightsider will be 'fed' granting near immortality like Fey
If i tell you my mediclorian count, i would get the inquisitors on my tale
Yeah, they would want to test with you to see how you managed to get under -100 per cell
Ooh, burn!
UltimateKing22 weakness, I can get at LEAST -10000 per cell, meaning, well, floating things causes them to just like, glitch Into the floor
Those guys are pushovers. You can take then
5:38 If it were the case, he would've saved his mother as well, which would've been nice BTW.
Plo-moon was definitely more powerful than most jedi knights and even a large amount of Jedi masters, his midichlorian rate must have been higher seeing as he is the only Jedi to be able to use the light side variant of force lightning, electric judgement.
Coleman Trebor>Anakin
Preach
@@GenerationTech i think chirrut inwe and maz kanata also had around 5000 midichloians per cell.
MY MAN COLEMAN TREBOR
Pfp is extremely cursed
@@jedijournal9159 Sounds about right.
I believe mastery matters a lot in these cases. Anakin had pure and clear advantage of midichlorians, but Obi Wan matched with him not just in dueling skills, but even when they tried to force push eachother away. Thats more than just what form of lightsaber combat he used, its like arm wrestling. They were both able to give same power output
I always knew Han was a little force sensitive, he has shown it time and time again.
he alwasy knew when something wasn't good
when i saw the title preview with Owen Lars at the beginning, my very first thought was "The Farmer Level". I laughed out loud and watched the video.
Good job, sir.
i always found the concept of midiclorians to be awsome, and i never understood why so much people hate them, for me, they are like the power levels in DBZ, something nice to see in the characters.
i always liked statistics, besides, midiclorians dont determine how good a jedi you are, just your potential of learning.
@Logan Waltz they are not bacteria... specialy because bacterias tend to be bigger or the same size as cells (since they are themselfs, cells) midiclorians live inside the cells.
here is the thing tough, before midiclorians, the force was mithical, the idea was that anyone can be a jedi, as long as the force decides that "they are worth it" this is a beautiful concept of course, but midiclorians do not take this concept away, as a matter of fact, they state it as a fact...
we all have midiclorians, all of us... some of us have more than others, but they are inside everyone.
the best way to explain "god" is by science... the laws of nature, god (in this case, the force) would create a set of rules in which the universe would exist, gravity, relativity... and, add to that... midiclorians...
just because something is scientific, doesnt mean one cannot give a spritual meaning to it, specialy because Star Wars was always about a perfect mix between technology and spirituality.
@Logan Waltz Grievous tried, but failed. They are unique and doesn't transplantate.
I think it was more the way they where explained in episode one. It stripped away all the mysticism the force had in the original trilogy.
@@DarthSoto78 i dont think it did, and even if it had, thaat would not have been a problem to me
Akira toriyama regretted making power levels and ditched them after Frieza died so not exactly the best example
Suggestion: Modern Earth vs Sith Empire(post-great hyperspace war)
Modern earth: hey guys, notice how space does not stop projectiles? We can literally start shooting as soon as we detect them at kuiper belt! Oh look, they seems to beam in pretty much any unidentified craft into their precious Star Destroyers, can we like jury rig nukes in a space station and then send an automated "secret plans message" from it?
@@oditeomnes Our artillery totally have a range of 4,487,936,121 kilometers, totally
Me before this video: haha I like the mandalorian
Me after this video: HAN SOLO WAS FORCE SENSITIVE
My takeaway is that midichlorians are the force talking to you. The more you have, the louder the voice. But that is just one-half of using the force. The other is how well you listen.
0:09 Actually Lucas created the concept in 1974, they were in early drafts of A New Hope and continued to be referred to as canon by Lucas in interviews. They just weren't named yet.
I just want to mention there was a mistake about the Jedi that failed to become apprentices. He mentioned that "Jedi temple guards" were in that group, but they are actually full Jedi Knights.
Well done Neos lol. Fun vid - thanks @generation tech! Great way to start our day here.
It's fun to see that obi wan as a mid range on the scale was able to beat Anakin in the new series. Years of training and then years of reflection made him stronger. While very little training and years of wallow made Anakin stronger than most but not stronger than obi wan
Thanks to plot armor🤡
My Midichlorian count is so low I have to sell death sticks to make a living...
You want to go home and rethink your life...
Hey Alen, have you ever thought about making a generation tech podcast?
We do actually check our main page it’s on the sidebar
@@GenerationTech thanks pops
I like how he says 'Boink Senators'
After watching countless videos from this channel, this was the episode that made me subscribe