@@takco2596 still around almost every day for the last 7.5 years :) I have a lot of other types of content that I want to make, and have a lot of people that want to watch that. So if I’m not feeling like making content for WoW, I have something that a lot of other people don’t have and that is the capability and really the luxury of only needing to make content for things that I’m excited about and want to make. There may be less of it by volume, but if it’s something I WANT to do, it’s going to be much better than just clock in clock out dragging my feet doing something I don’t want to do which is something most other people don’t have.
@@Yambag are you that big of a jealous loser that you can’t fathom someone going from 310 in Spring 2023 to 240 in November 2024 LMFAO. You dont need Ozempic for that you moron it’s not even 1lb a week of loss hahaha
Esfand doing such a great Tectone impression at the beginning was something i wasn't expecting😂 if you want to sound like Tectone just do what esfand did
esfand please tell your developer friends to give oceania players some love with an OCE server OR at minimum a US West PVP server. australians cannot play
Thank! I’m around where I want to be weight wise but need to get stronger again now. I’m going to make a video about it at some point, people have been asking me too
@@Magetastic69 if you think you need Ozempic to go from 310 in March 2023 to 240 in November 2024, you are a pathetic loser who knows nothing about fitness.
my only concern is that the layer hopping restriction will make it harder to slurp up world buffs passively on a PVP realm. cuz you can't just swap last second to get ONY buff or something.
Pvp servers are for pvp, if you roll into one have to consider that and suck it up if you dont like it lol, must people dont like pvp and just join cause streamers or think its the only server will survive or something, and its far from reality. With this changes will probably very hard not engage on wpvp in a lot of zones and thats is awesome for wpvp enjoyers, but for that dumb kinda player will suffer and its ok, thats why they suppose to roll in a pvp server
Does this mean that the WorldDefense channel will be broken? It is bust on Retail due to all these layers and sharding and whatever so is it still going to work with this?
It's hard to believe that almost 7 years ago this guy was streaming Raid Three trying to take down Cthun to maybe 200 people. COmpared to pserver dorks they weren't great, but they definitely had a great time so people rooted for the underdog. fuckin classic man, those were fun times
I see what they are trying to do but i don't think its gonna fix anything PVP wise. Alot of this depends on how it actually works, but how can the system account for what players are doing? If they are limiting the amount of players faction wise per zone, but the bulk of one faction isn't there to pvp, how does that counter overwhelming crowds? A large portion of Horde decide to go hunting Allies, its within the limits so nothing happens while the rest of the Allies in that shard are busy doing other things or avoiding said group. Any attempts to form a counter group would rely on additional people from outside the shard and does this mean those people wouldn't be able to zone in to face them? What happens then when so many Allies leave that equation? do others in that zone get randomly phased in to the meat grinder? This sounds like its only going to further disperse the playerbase instead of maintaining the "world" feeling everyone desires. Layering is a necessary technology but purposefully forcing people in or out along faction lines feels more restraining than liberating.
Regarding PvP grief: Griefing in World of Warcraft Classic is a nuanced issue, especially on PvP servers. Blizzard has outlined specific rules in their Terms of Service (ToS) and Code of Conduct, which generally prohibit certain disruptive behaviors. However, PvP servers are designed for open-world player-versus-player conflict, and not all “griefing” actions are against the rules. What Is Allowed on PvP Servers? • Open-world PvP: Engaging in combat, even repeatedly, is generally allowed. • Corpse camping: Repeatedly killing a player or waiting for them to respawn is permitted on PvP servers, as it is considered part of the PvP experience. • Zone disruption: Activities like repeatedly attacking towns or NPCs (within reason) are also allowed if they fall within the game’s PvP mechanics. What Is Not Allowed (Against ToS)? Blizzard typically steps in when griefing crosses certain lines: 1. Harassment: Personal, targeted harassment (e.g., excessive whispering, hate speech, or threats) is against the ToS. 2. Exploitation of game mechanics: Using cheats, hacks, or exploits to grief others is strictly prohibited. 3. Zone disruption outside of PvP mechanics: Deliberately disrupting gameplay for other players in ways not tied to PvP (e.g., blocking quest NPCs for extended periods without a PvP purpose) may be reportable. 4. Win trading: In PvP combat, artificially manipulating the outcome of a fight to gain rewards is against the rules. Blizzard encourages players on PvP servers to resolve conflicts through PvP combat rather than reporting, but they also reserve the right to act on reports if behavior goes beyond the intended scope of PvP mechanics In other words if you chose a PvP server you must accept the consequences. If you don’t you should’ve chosen a care bear PVE realm.
Interesting video. I feel like some classes are REALLY going to shine in pvp this time : rogues will always have their pvp spec in wpvp, which will make them even more annoying. Shamans will be able to go ele : good luck casters in wpvp, you're going to learn to hate them. Warriors will have an amazing time too : they can rank way easier now and always be arms in world pvp.
If half of these changes go over well, this will be the definitive wow classic experience, save for maybe nostalrius. The only thing they need now is GMs. If they actually get some people to enforce the game rules like they used to this will be perfect.
I was very confused with why they said "War mode" when it's nothing like War Mode, it just uses the "sharding tech" that Warmode uses... which from my experience is 1v100 or 100v1 lol. I play almost exclusively with WM on and it's always a shit show. Hopefully they can get it a bit more fine tuned. Not to mention the fact that when there are more than 10 people on the screen at once the entire server lags out and becomes unplayable.
The RP is gonna be badass for OnlyFangs! Definitely a new twist for Hardcore instead of always sweating like wow players normally do 😆 good times ahead
@@Stojanov23 slow and steady! About 80 lbs in almost 2 years, went up a bit though as I started lifting again. I’m 240ish now, and I’ll make a video about it at some point :D
Yes SoD is great. I personally don't know anyone on CS who plans to quit for fresh classic. That's just my experience though, I know not everyone likes SoD.
Even if many folks will play it´s less than a maxed top game this days so if we get a fail gue/wait time loggin problem then it´s sad..:) But standard for blizz so for sure it will be long wait to loggin.
But if the server is already balanced by player characters why would it be necessary for there to be a zone balance? They must allow flexibility. they must allow players from the same party/raid to come to the zone. If they move 1 player they have to move all in the party. - all in all I’m all in for experimenting as long they revert if it sucks. I’m happy atleast they did not put that war mode disgusting button. You minuswell call it retail at that point. Also in wow retail- the zones or fights for war mode caches are almost never fair so idk what the heck do they expect new? Insanity = doing the same thing expecting different results.
IMO, all world buff should only be obtained by doing things out in the world. If these new buffs can be gotten by doing instanced content then I am against it. What makes classic fun IMO is that the world feels alive, you have to go out and farm mats, for the most part you have to run to the dungeons and raids and since even low lvl mats are useful you get players farming these things in every zone not just in the higher lvl ones. I feel that the essence of the game was lost when the need to go out in the the world was all but completely removed. Also, all realms should be pvp, so long as the faction balance can be maintained; the world is suppose to be a scary place, that's what made it worth venturing into.
the layering seems kind of stupid im ngl. sad to say even in a pvp server not everyone participates in pvp esp not wpvp i cant even count the amount of times ive been jumped by horde and there were allies within /say distance and didnt help at all. the real problem here??? layering. remove layering and then you have a realm thats balanced using the character creation balance. why in 2024 do we need to layer a game as easy to run as classic.
two ppl that can revive and kill classic esfand and asmongold. they ask for gold from viewers and dip out in 1 phase. no shot either of them play it to the end, hope they play to the end this time, it bring in so many active players.
I LOVE warmode coming to classic. My classic guild is a bunch of classic andy's that INSIST on rolling PvP on every iteration of Classis. I HATE questing on PvP servers because I usually quest alone. While the rest of the guild power levels through Dungeons. I rather roll with the guildies than start a new experience in a PVE server so I just deal with it. I LOVE THIS!
@EB_1059 git gud and gank people as you quest? Its literally the most fun time in the game when there's no 60s and you get to wpvp as you level. Sad take.
@Magetastic69 i agree that wpvp is fun. but it stops being fun and you're getting corpse camped by a group that's questing together. I've been playing on PvP servers since 2005. I'm glad this warmode-like feature is being implemented.
@EB_1059 if an area is too hot you just do a diff quest lol. Most of the time, like 99%, you should be able to win vs even a couple people. I guess if you're leveling a healer or something that isn't the case 🤷. I've been playing since 05 too, I've never not rolled pvp server lol it's the entire purpose I play the game at all.
@EB_1059 "war mode" is not retail war mode, if that's the case you wouldn't need pvp server just like retail; "War mode" is there way to implement balancing in the world
Please, need a big content creator to talk about meta raiding; the idea of 5 of each class in a 40 man raid. We know all raids can be done easily.. so let’s make it harder on ourself and make this the new community game mode that is embraced by the developers similar to hardcore. This is our heroic raids. We won’t need this mechanic in TBC but we need something new and help give other options then class stacking while also pushing off specs in raid. This change will make it feel like OG classic then if we just rerelease.
The original onlyfangs was just some excuse to get other streamers on WoW. With all the boosting and mob tagging, free gear and enchant etc. Nobody really died.... This time around things are gonna be very very different. As a Hardcore player myself i know the game at a SF level is EXTREMELY DIFFICULT and MOST(60%
i love wow but i cant be asked to keep paying lizard 15 dollars for a month or 2 of recycled content that is now as it should have been back then i hate classic wow being seen like a ladder season.
Just disable layering after a month… this sounds so bad. If you play on a PvP server and you’re mad about it it’s on you.. After all theses years I’m sure everybody is aware of the cancerous shit that can happen sometimes but that’s just classic 🤷🏻♂️
@EsfandTV what is this a retrospective?? Start the next sprint!! I will be trying out hardcore this go around and as a project manager and scrum master that works from home I am pumped!
@brysonflippin151 no it isnt its called pvp 😂😂 welcome to the internet scrub. Can't imagine being such a crybaby after willingly playing on pvp server. It is objectively not against ToS to gank or camp people lmao Blizz has NEVER acted on someone camping or anything pvp related other than arena win trading / piloting.
@@Magetastic69 yes they have, and no camping someone when they don’t have a chance to fight back and don’t even give you honor anymore is griefing and harassment. It’s not PvP if there’s no sport in it
@EsfandTV I don't disagree that it's lame and loser activity. I let people eat up before I kill them and I don't camp. HOWEVER even if you camped them 1000x for no honor it is NOT against ToS in any way shape or form and has never been actioned upon by blizzard. You know this though you've been playing almost as long as I have. Safespotting, arena related things, these are the only things blizzard has cracked down on. No one has ever gotten in trouble for wpvp regardless of how ruthless or lame it was.
So my understanding of how they plan to keep the servers 50/50 is: 1. If your faction exceeds a total server threshold, you can't make a new character 2. If your faction exceeds the population threshold of a zone, you get phased out Why even play on a pvp server at that point?
to find other pvp players... to play with...? you really think theres as many pvpers on a pve realm lol thats like saying why roleplay on a roleplay realm when yo ucan do it on a pvp realm
You're able to continue creating character wth lmao New players to that realm won't be able to create a character on the faction that is at 55% Believe percentages are based on active players, not how many characters that are created. Doesn't matter if I made 20 characters, I only can go onto 1 of them. And on a PvP server, you can't create both factions, so as you see that doesn't make any sense. This is also why they said "faction balance doesn't make balanced in world" And why they want to implement the "war mode"; Im rolling PvE so it doesnt matter to me but this kinda takes the aspect of PvP open world to me. When there's people ganking you, you ask a guildy to help. Sometimes it gets out of hand and there's like 10 v 10 level 60s trying to protect the lowbies. But that's my opinion, which doesn't really matter as I said I'm going PvE anyway
@Acaran It wouldn't be balanced, I would agree with opening transfers like they did in SoD but both ways allowing for both but I don't think that'll happen
Hope you stick to classic wow vids for the near future. Missed you man. Really miss those Classicasts
@@takco2596 still around almost every day for the last 7.5 years :)
I have a lot of other types of content that I want to make, and have a lot of people that want to watch that. So if I’m not feeling like making content for WoW, I have something that a lot of other people don’t have and that is the capability and really the luxury of only needing to make content for things that I’m excited about and want to make. There may be less of it by volume, but if it’s something I WANT to do, it’s going to be much better than just clock in clock out dragging my feet doing something I don’t want to do which is something most other people don’t have.
Make paladin police force great again!
@@EsfandTV bruh dont listen to these people, keep up the diversity. just leave out EI
@@rigormortis3219 It's not just about that, I wouldn't be happy doing only one thing forever... Except playing Paladin of course :)
Its not classic anymore. Too many changes have been made.
For those of you who didn't watch Dean do 40 live takes of that outro with Esfand providing directorial input, your life is incomplete.
The chemicals in the water are turning the frogs gay
Who's Dean?
@@7e8dn3iddeansocool
If that’s your measure for personal happiness, I truly feel sorry for you
I was thinking Esfand got robbed at the end there lol
My first thought was "damn Esfand is looking pretty fit" love the content!
He injects the tummy juice that's why. Esfand has Ozempic ass
@Yambag yeah it's clearly ozempic 😂 pathetic
@@Yambag are you that big of a jealous loser that you can’t fathom someone going from 310 in Spring 2023 to 240 in November 2024 LMFAO. You dont need Ozempic for that you moron it’s not even 1lb a week of loss hahaha
@@EsfandTVyou have ozempic face and it’s making you look like a beaver
@@EsfandTVEsfand I’ve lost close to 80lbs, what’s the biggest change you’ve made to your lifestyle?
Damn you can really see how much weight esfand has lost at the end of the video! Keep it up king!
Please make layer hopping instant in major cities. Otherwise it will be a nightmare to trade.
It’s not even instant in cata
Dramatic
So are these graphical updates they confirmed the same as the HD texture pack that cata classic had?
Esfand doing such a great Tectone impression at the beginning was something i wasn't expecting😂 if you want to sound like Tectone just do what esfand did
esfand please tell your developer friends to give oceania players some love with an OCE server OR at minimum a US West PVP server.
australians cannot play
Bro keep up the weight loss, shits inspiring
@@Scottysaweet its obviously Ozempic he's just injecting into his stomach. Its actually pathetic.
whats the secret?:) yeah good job bro!
Thank! I’m around where I want to be weight wise but need to get stronger again now. I’m going to make a video about it at some point, people have been asking me too
@@EsfandTV Raiding and Lifting weights at the same time??? best content ever
@@Magetastic69 if you think you need Ozempic to go from 310 in March 2023 to 240 in November 2024, you are a pathetic loser who knows nothing about fitness.
“happier and with your mouth more open”
WKUK reference? 🤔
An easy way to combat layer hopping is to put the entire group on the layer most favorable to faction balance when adding another player.
Looking good Mario
and now the wkuk reference. nice
the potential problem might end up being with world buffs like the flower buff where a whole raid might all group up to get the buff together.
my only concern is that the layer hopping restriction will make it harder to slurp up world buffs passively on a PVP realm. cuz you can't just swap last second to get ONY buff or something.
Oh well
Pvp servers are for pvp, if you roll into one have to consider that and suck it up if you dont like it lol, must people dont like pvp and just join cause streamers or think its the only server will survive or something, and its far from reality. With this changes will probably very hard not engage on wpvp in a lot of zones and thats is awesome for wpvp enjoyers, but for that dumb kinda player will suffer and its ok, thats why they suppose to roll in a pvp server
they should just get rid of world buffs anyway. It's already the easiest content by far of any expansion, why on earth do world buffs exist
There won't be pvp realms. Warmode takes that away.
Are you planning to upload WoW Videos on YT? I don’t wanna miss it
At least all the vods are under live tab.
@@CruXM85 yeah if there’s not a video of something I at least started the vod archive, so it’ll always be there!
@@EsfandTV It would be great if the vods had chapters if you played different games or did IRL etc. on the vod. esfandL
@@EsfandTV yeah that’s perfect! Thank you Esfand!
Does this mean that the WorldDefense channel will be broken? It is bust on Retail due to all these layers and sharding and whatever so is it still going to work with this?
Maybe I missed this but what are battle groups? Will PvE server play against the PvP server players too?
Man layering was a mess during the STV blood event. Hopefully this doesn’t brick the game lol
When I played in the middle of the night/morning (like 2am or so) the blood event was amazing without lag. Any other time the lag made it unplayable
@@riv3ra625 Lag was rare on Chaos Bolt.
It's hard to believe that almost 7 years ago this guy was streaming Raid Three trying to take down Cthun to maybe 200 people. COmpared to pserver dorks they weren't great, but they definitely had a great time so people rooted for the underdog. fuckin classic man, those were fun times
I see what they are trying to do but i don't think its gonna fix anything PVP wise. Alot of this depends on how it actually works, but how can the system account for what players are doing? If they are limiting the amount of players faction wise per zone, but the bulk of one faction isn't there to pvp, how does that counter overwhelming crowds?
A large portion of Horde decide to go hunting Allies, its within the limits so nothing happens while the rest of the Allies in that shard are busy doing other things or avoiding said group. Any attempts to form a counter group would rely on additional people from outside the shard and does this mean those people wouldn't be able to zone in to face them? What happens then when so many Allies leave that equation? do others in that zone get randomly phased in to the meat grinder? This sounds like its only going to further disperse the playerbase instead of maintaining the "world" feeling everyone desires.
Layering is a necessary technology but purposefully forcing people in or out along faction lines feels more restraining than liberating.
Regarding PvP grief: Griefing in World of Warcraft Classic is a nuanced issue, especially on PvP servers. Blizzard has outlined specific rules in their Terms of Service (ToS) and Code of Conduct, which generally prohibit certain disruptive behaviors. However, PvP servers are designed for open-world player-versus-player conflict, and not all “griefing” actions are against the rules.
What Is Allowed on PvP Servers?
• Open-world PvP: Engaging in combat, even repeatedly, is generally allowed.
• Corpse camping: Repeatedly killing a player or waiting for them to respawn is permitted on PvP servers, as it is considered part of the PvP experience.
• Zone disruption: Activities like repeatedly attacking towns or NPCs (within reason) are also allowed if they fall within the game’s PvP mechanics.
What Is Not Allowed (Against ToS)?
Blizzard typically steps in when griefing crosses certain lines:
1. Harassment: Personal, targeted harassment (e.g., excessive whispering, hate speech, or threats) is against the ToS.
2. Exploitation of game mechanics: Using cheats, hacks, or exploits to grief others is strictly prohibited.
3. Zone disruption outside of PvP mechanics: Deliberately disrupting gameplay for other players in ways not tied to PvP (e.g., blocking quest NPCs for extended periods without a PvP purpose) may be reportable.
4. Win trading: In PvP combat, artificially manipulating the outcome of a fight to gain rewards is against the rules.
Blizzard encourages players on PvP servers to resolve conflicts through PvP combat rather than reporting, but they also reserve the right to act on reports if behavior goes beyond the intended scope of PvP mechanics
In other words if you chose a PvP server you must accept the consequences. If you don’t you should’ve chosen a care bear PVE realm.
ok mr undead rogue lol
Interesting video. I feel like some classes are REALLY going to shine in pvp this time : rogues will always have their pvp spec in wpvp, which will make them even more annoying. Shamans will be able to go ele : good luck casters in wpvp, you're going to learn to hate them. Warriors will have an amazing time too : they can rank way easier now and always be arms in world pvp.
Shadow priests and warlocks too
Psssh, I'm going Ele for PvE
Druids are heavily slept on a good feral druid or balance resto can solo anyone in 1v1s
What would happen if you are in a group or invite a friend when the cap is full though?
War mode on Hardcore servers? Sounds amaze-balls.
Wtf a video that's not just a stream highlight? Bro must be really excited for classic!
@@moe504 even the” stream highlights” aren’t even that anymore they have like a narrative or something attached to it these days haha
is this for hardcore too or just classic?
If half of these changes go over well, this will be the definitive wow classic experience, save for maybe nostalrius. The only thing they need now is GMs. If they actually get some people to enforce the game rules like they used to this will be perfect.
Crusade return arc!
I could see Esfand loving Shaman.
Our fareweather fan returns.
Calling this warmode-like is going to get the pitchforks out lol
I was very confused with why they said "War mode" when it's nothing like War Mode, it just uses the "sharding tech" that Warmode uses... which from my experience is 1v100 or 100v1 lol. I play almost exclusively with WM on and it's always a shit show. Hopefully they can get it a bit more fine tuned. Not to mention the fact that when there are more than 10 people on the screen at once the entire server lags out and becomes unplayable.
I mean, they made it pretty clear in the original post that it's just using the layering system from it
Lookin good homie.
The King of Seal Twisting!
The RP is gonna be badass for OnlyFangs! Definitely a new twist for Hardcore instead of always sweating like wow players normally do 😆 good times ahead
If you want classes to be as strong as they are with WBs just make them that strong.
Is this classic stuff also gonna be apart of sod or just the classic launcher thing😂😂
Dang Esfand I haven't watched you in a while but you look like you lost a ton of weight. Keep it up buddy!
@@Stojanov23 slow and steady! About 80 lbs in almost 2 years, went up a bit though as I started lifting again. I’m 240ish now, and I’ll make a video about it at some point :D
@@EsfandTV That's awesome man, love to see it! The weight gain is just pure muscle lol!
Loving the return to classic! **cough…Crusade…cough**
I'm slightly on the fence about the balanced pvp shit, it was always so annoying to be locked out of playing with your friends just because balance.
Can you turn off xp now?
You being so caught up on naming shit is hilarious
that warmode title scared the shit out of me.
Yeaaa….the layer cooldowns don’t work for a vanilla format. Have fun getting summons, enchants, mage water etc
i like the esfand at the end
Esfand I’m still waiting on the PC to play Hardcore with my friends😭
We need Stormrend Confirmed
I'm currently playing sod is it even worth playing now?
Nope, never has been.
Yes SoD is great. I personally don't know anyone on CS who plans to quit for fresh classic. That's just my experience though, I know not everyone likes SoD.
people that dont want to play a meme class will stay on SoD
@@Ludydobry every single class is a meme In sod
@@bluburryyumyum1367 every class is improved*
Even if many folks will play it´s less than a maxed top game this days so if we get a fail gue/wait time loggin problem then it´s sad..:) But standard for blizz so for sure it will be long wait to loggin.
The more I see Skinny Esfand the more I feel like he should dress up like Mario or Luigi and own it like Dr. Disrespect.
we did no changes 5 years ago, lets try some changes see what works, if it a decision is terrible hopefulyl blizz remove it.
Don't know how I feel about this
One faction floods are just part of the game
damn esfand look different at the end
But if the server is already balanced by player characters why would it be necessary for there to be a zone balance? They must allow flexibility. they must allow players from the same party/raid to come to the zone. If they move 1 player they have to move all in the party. - all in all I’m all in for experimenting as long they revert if it sucks. I’m happy atleast they did not put that war mode disgusting button. You minuswell call it retail at that point. Also in wow retail- the zones or fights for war mode caches are almost never fair so idk what the heck do they expect new? Insanity = doing the same thing expecting different results.
IMO, all world buff should only be obtained by doing things out in the world. If these new buffs can be gotten by doing instanced content then I am against it. What makes classic fun IMO is that the world feels alive, you have to go out and farm mats, for the most part you have to run to the dungeons and raids and since even low lvl mats are useful you get players farming these things in every zone not just in the higher lvl ones. I feel that the essence of the game was lost when the need to go out in the the world was all but completely removed. Also, all realms should be pvp, so long as the faction balance can be maintained; the world is suppose to be a scary place, that's what made it worth venturing into.
who's the guy at the end?
Deansocool, he plays GTA RP with him on Nopixel
if layering is going to be anything like it has on SOD for the past 24 hours its absolutely DOGSHIT
imagine doing a org raid and half the horde just disappear like bro?!? what ?!??!
Good job with your weight loss journey!
@@bigscrap84 thank you! I’ll make a video about it soon! People have been asking me too
deansocool at the end was a treat
Doomhowl name of new HC server on the new anniversary Relm tab
the layering seems kind of stupid im ngl. sad to say even in a pvp server not everyone participates in pvp esp not wpvp i cant even count the amount of times ive been jumped by horde and there were allies within /say distance and didnt help at all. the real problem here??? layering. remove layering and then you have a realm thats balanced using the character creation balance. why in 2024 do we need to layer a game as easy to run as classic.
two ppl that can revive and kill classic esfand and asmongold. they ask for gold from viewers and dip out in 1 phase. no shot either of them play it to the end, hope they play to the end this time, it bring in so many active players.
I LOVE warmode coming to classic. My classic guild is a bunch of classic andy's that INSIST on rolling PvP on every iteration of Classis. I HATE questing on PvP servers because I usually quest alone. While the rest of the guild power levels through Dungeons. I rather roll with the guildies than start a new experience in a PVE server so I just deal with it. I LOVE THIS!
@EB_1059 git gud and gank people as you quest? Its literally the most fun time in the game when there's no 60s and you get to wpvp as you level. Sad take.
@Magetastic69 i agree that wpvp is fun. but it stops being fun and you're getting corpse camped by a group that's questing together. I've been playing on PvP servers since 2005. I'm glad this warmode-like feature is being implemented.
@EB_1059 if an area is too hot you just do a diff quest lol. Most of the time, like 99%, you should be able to win vs even a couple people. I guess if you're leveling a healer or something that isn't the case 🤷. I've been playing since 05 too, I've never not rolled pvp server lol it's the entire purpose I play the game at all.
@@EB_1059 war mode is not coming to Classic
@EB_1059 "war mode" is not retail war mode, if that's the case you wouldn't need pvp server just like retail;
"War mode" is there way to implement balancing in the world
Not even finalized? I can’t believe I’m paying $15 a month to test a game that’s been out for 20 years 🙃
Blizzard will 100% fuck it up.
Please, need a big content creator to talk about meta raiding; the idea of 5 of each class in a 40 man raid.
We know all raids can be done easily.. so let’s make it harder on ourself and make this the new community game mode that is embraced by the developers similar to hardcore. This is our heroic raids.
We won’t need this mechanic in TBC but we need something new and help give other options then class stacking while also pushing off specs in raid.
This change will make it feel like OG classic then if we just rerelease.
No thanks
Might roll normal this time around
World pvp was one of the best parts of wow. Get rid of layers altogether
is anyone going to be able to download this addon for voice?
The original onlyfangs was just some excuse to get other streamers on WoW. With all the boosting and mob tagging, free gear and enchant etc. Nobody really died.... This time around things are gonna be very very different. As a Hardcore player myself i know the game at a SF level is EXTREMELY DIFFICULT and MOST(60%
Layering changes are because of Asmongold layer shenanigans.
Sounds like this ain’t guna work right on launch
this guy is a fucking master yapologist
No way going pvp this time around. It’s NEVER a fair fight. It’s always 1 person trying to level vs 1 person wanting to pvp.
8:55 "that's against TOS"
*see's thousands of bots farming in era*
yeah I don't think blizzard is gonna do anything to change that one my dude
Pain
So much Pain
i love wow but i cant be asked to keep paying lizard 15 dollars for a month or 2 of recycled content that is now as it should have been back then i hate classic wow being seen like a ladder season.
People really like giving Blizzard money it seems, one of their reasons to play or?
Blizzard being blizzard proceeds with the most idiotic idea and implement this
wont work! because not everyone will be max level so that means one side might have more 60s then the other
Just disable layering after a month… this sounds so bad. If you play on a PvP server and you’re mad about it it’s on you..
After all theses years I’m sure everybody is aware of the cancerous shit that can happen sometimes but that’s just classic 🤷🏻♂️
I really don’t like the zoning. All the Grob rp PvP guilds are coming to fresh and we do lots of rp PvP events like raiding the capitols ect.
I love warmode
why cant ally have shaman!
Oh agile. Fail fast and fail often and iterate on it.
Failing is okay, failure without growth is not
@EsfandTV what is this a retrospective?? Start the next sprint!!
I will be trying out hardcore this go around and as a project manager and scrum master that works from home I am pumped!
Esfands a brother
There are EU servers now =) "Thunderstrike (Normal) Spineshatter (PvP) Soulseeker (Hardcore) diffrents name! then US!! blizzard listen to Esfand!! =)
bro got the N word pass at the end wtf happened lmao i loved that
Lmao camping people 100x is not against ToS
That’s called harassment and griefing. So, yes it is
@@brysonflippin151they should play pve then.
@brysonflippin151 no it isnt its called pvp 😂😂 welcome to the internet scrub. Can't imagine being such a crybaby after willingly playing on pvp server.
It is objectively not against ToS to gank or camp people lmao
Blizz has NEVER acted on someone camping or anything pvp related other than arena win trading / piloting.
@@Magetastic69 yes they have, and no camping someone when they don’t have a chance to fight back and don’t even give you honor anymore is griefing and harassment. It’s not PvP if there’s no sport in it
@EsfandTV I don't disagree that it's lame and loser activity. I let people eat up before I kill them and I don't camp.
HOWEVER even if you camped them 1000x for no honor it is NOT against ToS in any way shape or form and has never been actioned upon by blizzard. You know this though you've been playing almost as long as I have. Safespotting, arena related things, these are the only things blizzard has cracked down on. No one has ever gotten in trouble for wpvp regardless of how ruthless or lame it was.
omg dean
Warmode layering works really well imo, i had fun with world pvp in TWW.
Who is the dude at the end wtf?
Playing fresh after sod is literly griefing your self
So my understanding of how they plan to keep the servers 50/50 is:
1. If your faction exceeds a total server threshold, you can't make a new character
2. If your faction exceeds the population threshold of a zone, you get phased out
Why even play on a pvp server at that point?
to find other pvp players... to play with...? you really think theres as many pvpers on a pve realm lol thats like saying why roleplay on a roleplay realm when yo ucan do it on a pvp realm
You're able to continue creating character wth lmao
New players to that realm won't be able to create a character on the faction that is at 55%
Believe percentages are based on active players, not how many characters that are created. Doesn't matter if I made 20 characters, I only can go onto 1 of them. And on a PvP server, you can't create both factions, so as you see that doesn't make any sense.
This is also why they said "faction balance doesn't make balanced in world"
And why they want to implement the "war mode";
Im rolling PvE so it doesnt matter to me but this kinda takes the aspect of PvP open world to me. When there's people ganking you, you ask a guildy to help. Sometimes it gets out of hand and there's like 10 v 10 level 60s trying to protect the lowbies. But that's my opinion, which doesn't really matter as I said I'm going PvE anyway
@@SabentHD Wait, you wont be able to play both factions even though there is only one realm? That seems kind of dumb :(
@Acaran It wouldn't be balanced,
I would agree with opening transfers like they did in SoD but both ways allowing for both but I don't think that'll happen
1-2 months hype, pin it
war mode is dumb on pvp servers
Are you related to oliver tree in a way?
Yo dude
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