Fly Tying: Diamond Dub Scud
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- This is a fly I have been working on for a while now. I have had the pattern almost ironed out for over a year now, but I have been searching for a dubbing that really compliments the fly. I had been resorting to blending dubbings together but the flies were still missing something. I tied one with the diamond dub, and went out to test it. The fish loved it, so I tried it an various other colors as well. The 4 colors that have treated me the best are the 4 at the beginning of the video, all of them are tied exactly the same, except I change the color of the dubbing.
Materials I used in the video:
Hook: Dai-Riki scud hook (#14)
Thread: Daville flymaster plus 70 Denier Brown
Lead: .015 lead wire
Antenna: Partridge feather
Dubbing: Arizona Diamond Dub Hare's Ear (The other three are: Dark Hare's Ear, Tan, Oak)
Back: Mottled Thin Skin Oak
Segmentation: UTC Amber Small Wire
Resin: Loon Thick and Thin UV Resin
Music - "Darian Gap" by Josh Woodward. Free download: joshwoodward.com/
Absolutely love the fly. Nothing made me happier than when you started the fly though. I thought I was the only one who made the tag end of the thread as short as possible as to not waste.
Thanks! Glad to hear I'm not alone in how I start my flies!
Excellent tie! I am happy so many are dry fly snobs.---Leaves 90% of the fish for we scud guys! Thanks Skyler
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it. I'm not going to lie I love seeing a fish take a dry fly, but I won't hesitate to fish whatever is going to catch fish which usually leads to nymphing. I grew up doing a lot of Nymph and subsurface fishing so you will probably notice that most of my more original patterns are subsurface. If you end up tying some I'd be interested in knowing where else this fly works.
I will get some of that dubbing as it is a bit different from the antron I use. I have had success with sow bugs, anywhere there is vegetation in the streams. The best was probably in the Little Red River, in Arkansas. It is loaded with water cress.
I've thought about tying up a sow bug variation of this fly, that's something I'll definitely have to work on. That's awesome to hear about places to fish in your neck of the woods, admittedly I haven't done much fishing outside of the Rockies. Let me know how it goes after you pick up the dubbing, I'd love to hear about it.
You can keep your bobbers and your dry flies. I load my casts on the water and fire them downstream and enjoy the tight line grab. Anything else is boring. This fly is awesome though and could be used on a wet fly rig
This fly has been dynamite in the driftless of Minnesota! Thank you so much for sharing this pattern!!
Thank you, I'm glad it's worked for you!
A lovely video and a cracking fly. I will have to try them in the sea and still waters if my tying ok. Thank you for sharing your knowledge on UA-cam, it's people like you that take my fly tying enjoyment a notch higher thank you
Thanks Ian, I'm glad you like it! Let me know how it goes.
Very good fly and even better instructions! I appreciate the little tips/tricks that you shared.
Thanks a bunch!
Wow! Great looking scud! I'm gonna have to try this! Thanks for the video!
Great pattern and great job tying and instructing. I hope we see more videos from you soon.
Thank you! I can't begin to say how busy I have been finishing up with grad school, but I miss making these and I'm hoping to get some out around the holidays.
Just last fall I collected some bugs from a river I frequent and there were a lot of scuds. I will try this pattern for sure! Thanks for all of the detail in this and your other videos!
Thanks! Good luck!
Great looking file - def gonna make some up. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you! Good luck and tight lines!
That was without a doubt the best fly tying video I have ever seen! & I have been using instructional tying videos sense the days when you could only get them in VHS tapes (I know many of you have no idea what that is. lol).
Trent, my son says just us old guys remember VHS, lol
😂 it’s funny cu’z it’s true
@@trentnichols5075 yep, for sure, tight lines brother...
I grew up with VHS but we converted to DVD before I started tying flies. That is also how I first learned. Thank you for the kind words.
Gorgeous scud (if such a thing exists). I love the two pass dubbing technique & the sharp contrast in colors in the Arizona Diamond dubbing. Thank you for sharing!!
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it.
Really nice scud tie - clean and simple and good video editing.
Tight lines and screamin’ reels mate 😀👍🇬🇧🇺🇸
Thanks! And tight lines to you too!
Man I dig you style! I used to only tie for bass, and am now learning how crucial it is to be precise with trout flies. I really like your pace I feel like I could tie along. I’ve never seen anyone start their thread base that way cuts down on waste for sure.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
hi Calgary AB. Canada here, I just tied 12 of your scuds . Excellent pattern. We have government stocked man made ponds and reservoirs in my area and small creeks supply hundreds of shrimp(fresh water scuds) and your pattern matches them perfectly . On your fly you used a size 14 hook, it was too small so I used #12 's for the rest. Thanks again.
That's great! You'll have to tell me how you did!
Looks great ! Can’t wait to tie a few!
That looks so good,I even want to eat it.Big thumbs up.
Thanks!
僕も、食べたい。
Excellent video, Skyler, crystal clear and well paced. Terry
Thanks Terry!
I have been using a similar fly for many years and use various mixes of "angelina fibres" for my dub. The colour that works best for me is a lemon yellow colour. Why it works I have no idea but I have consistently caught brown trout to more than 5lbs. It works also in the sea for sea run brown trout. I have been using 5lb mono for my ribbing but I think I will tie it with a bronze coloured wire like yours. Thank you for showing your pattern.
That's awesome! I would love to fish for sea run browns and hope to do so some day. You'll have to let me know if the change to wire makes a difference. What ocean are you getting to fish in?
I live in Shetland (a group of islands in the very north of the Uk). The streams are extremely small so we catch most of our sea trout in the narrow estuaries in both the Atlantic and the North Sea. I have tied these scuds in olive, brown pink, orange and yellow. I tie them on a Kamasan b175 and build up an underbody of lead wire using ever decreasing lengths until a hump shape is formed. The back is formed with tan flexibly and I usually mark it with a black felt marker before coating it with uv resin. The shrimp swims upside down which means fewer snags. I have watched shrimps swim upside down so it works very well tied in this manner. It catches well in clear alkaline lakes particularly in the shallows. I haven't tried it in rivers yet because we don't have any! Thanks for your excellent video. Tight lines! Mike
great looking fly, I will be trying this one here in VA waters this year... thanks!
Thank you! Would love to hear how it goes
@@skylerhardman1227 let you know but I am tying one now!
Nice work Skyler. If you want to add a bit more realism to the curve, you know that humped area about 2/3 of the way back from the hook eye... Here is a technique I use to obtain that look. Invert the hook in the vise and place the “apex” of the hump at the lowest point (you’ll essentially lift the hook eye from a level point), now flip your jaws 180 degrees, apply the resin and then immediately flip the jaws 180 to the top of the fly is again facing down. Cure the resin when it starts to bulge at the low point. I also use this inverted technique when I want to ensure the resin doesn’t slump down the sides of the fly (especially with smaller patterns) and to ensure a thicker back.
Thanks Mark! As I'm sure you know, patterns that you come up with are always evolving so I'll have to try this out, it might be the next evolution of this pattern. Tight lines!
Nice fly!! Tight lines🪲🦟🐜!!!!!
What a great pattern!! The extra coat of UV really did make a difference. thanks for the vid.
Busted Bait
Thank you, glad you liked it!
Bad ass!!! Thank you!! A couple of these will soon be above my tungsten ice jig😃. Watch out gills n crappies!!!!
Thanks! How did it go?
@@skylerhardman1227 went very well!!😃😃. More crappie than gills which is ok with me. Tied some in shrimp pink. Lights out. Made a few for a friend in neutral browns which were also excellent. He actually wore them out!!!! Thanks again 🎣🐟🎣😃
@@jackmasters9953 That's awesome!
Excellent video Skyler!!
Thanks!
Beautiful tie. Mottled effect on shell is smart
Thanks!
Fantastic tie....... Great instruction!!
Thank you!
great video. thanks from New Zealand
A superb job sir,well done
Thank you! Glad you liked it.
Nicely done.
Thanks!
Very nice tie, thanks for making things easy to understand. Enjoy your videos....
Thanks Larry!
You did a great job on this video, very well put together
Thank you!
Just came across your videos. Great work man. You got a sub
Thanks!, glad to have you!
Good looking fly ....I enjoy watching your stuff....
Thanks Ken, I appreciate it. Tight lines!
That is a very good scud pattern. Well done, Skylar.
Parachute Adams Thank you!
looks fantastic
Thanks!
great fly pattern.Thanks for sharing
Thanks John!
I have found that UV resins don't adhere to other plastics that well and often delaminate. To avoid this problem I will let it leak over the edge of the plastic covering material to give The UV resin a more secure anchor point to prevent the potential delaminating.
I completely agree that with certain materials it is a good idea to anchor the resin by going over the edge, I do this whenever I use scud back in particular. I've experimented with the thin skin on this pattern and I don't know if it's because of the wire segments, the curved shape of the body, or that I let it soak into the thread at the front, but I've never had a problem with the resin peeling off (not to say it couldn't happen.) I usually fish these in rivers right on the bottom and often snag rocks and the resin holds. I try to keep the resin on top because it gives a great profile that the fish really seem to like, but if it ever starts failing I'll keep your suggestion in mind, I agree that durability is one of the most important aspects of a fly. Thanks for sharing!
That’s really nice
Awesome ! great job.
greetings from Iceland
Thank you!
Nicely done 👍
Thanks!
Lovely pattern .
Merry Christmas to you and your family. 🇨🇮🎅👌
Thank you! Merry christmas to you as well.
Dam, you make it look so easy, thanks !
Thanks a bunch! I've tied a lot of these over the years.
Magnífico, impresionante, gran trabajo. Gracias por compartirlo
Muchas Gracia Hernan! De donde eres?
@@skylerhardman1227de Ciudad de Buenos Aires, Argentina. Saludos
@@hernandonofrio6726 Enserio! Aprendi hablar castellano en Argentina. Vivia en algunos lugares acerca de Bahia Blanca, Necochea, y Mar del Plata.
@@hernandonofrio6726 Yo habria dicho de donde sos jaja.
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I 'll tie this scud! I love y nos pattern
Thanks!
Great video. Subscribed!
Awesome, thanks!
this is an amazing looking fly. im definitely going to have to give this a try
Thanks! Have you tried it yet?
Amazing
Thanks!
Nice tie - might try Rainbow Scud dubbing
I'll have to give that a try.
Nice video my friend!Flysofishing
Flysofishing thank you!
Very well done. Thank you.
Well thank you!
Very nice tie
Thanks!
Perfect👍👍👍
Thanks!
Where are your local waters. Great looking fly thanks for showing.
Thank you! I live in Eastern Idaho and do a lot of fishing on the Henry's Fork and the South Fork of the Snake.
Super vidéo. Avis à la communauté française qui lira ce commentaire, où trouver du dubbing pour les gamarres (scud dub) équivalent à ceux que l'on trouve aux US (genre Arizona diamond dub ; hareline rainbow scud dub) avec un aspect comme dans cette vidéo ? J'ai bien cherché, j'ai rien trouvé de convaincant. Si quelqu'un a une idée?
cool
Very nice Skyler! Fly tying season here in Canada (3 feet of ice on the lakes :-( ) so I am at the bench, I'll tie up a couple of these this morning. QUESTION: It seems that everybody ties scuds in the curled up position, do you tie "swimming" scuds? I tie most of my scuds on a Partridge Patriot Czech Nymph Fine CZF hook that has a less pronounced bend and fish them with short (3-6 inch) gentle/slow strips with small pauses between strips. The takes are deliberate and the fish hook themselves most of the time. Cheers, Hank
Hi Hank! I honestly think that makes more sense to me. I have always tied them on curved shank hooks because that's how I learned so that's how I do it. I'll have to give that a try sometime, I'm often fishing these in moving water under and indicator but sometimes I fish them on still water so I'll have to get around to trying that sometime.
wow, one of the nices scuds I've seen thanks, I'm going to tie a few. Whats your favorite size
Thank you! I'm lucky to live in a place where I can fish scuds rather large. 12's and 14's work great, but I've been fishing these in spring creeks and I've been having great luck with them in 14's. The shots with fish were on 14's as well as the one I tied in the video. Tight lines!
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Thanks!
Awesome tie . Do you sell them ?
Thanks! I currently do not, but I'm hoping to get them in a catalog at some point.
I've never fished scuds. Any tips on how to fish them in a spring creek? There is a spring creek near me that has big cutties and just recently learned they feed on alot of scuds
The fish in this video are in a spring creek and I usually just fish them below an indicator along with another nymph. This creek flows quickly however. In a slower creek I would probably drop them off of something that looks natural, like a hopper pattern. If the fish aren't too spooky don't be afraid to give tiny tugs on the line to animate the scud.
I like it
Thanks!
Does your Loon resin get cloudy over time, they look great but only because the resin back is translucent, I use loon but it appears cloudy, over a period of time.
I have noticed that keeping the bottle capped helps to prevent this and usually my flies don't turn cloudy. You also have to pay attention to what material is under the resin. I have noticed that black scud back will leech into the resin and turn it black months after tying the fly.
Just wondering where you fish, I know geography plays a big role in aquatic insect life. Wondering if this pattern would work in BC or Alberta up in Canada.
Hi, I live in Idaho and fish all over the state.
Would this also work with Ice Dub? Just recently started watching your videos and I like some of the techniques you use to tie. keep tying and tightlines!
Chris Remster Thank you. I used to blend ice dub with rabbit and other things and it works and will catch fish but I quickly switched to Diamond dub after trying it. But play with what you've got, you'll probably come up with something better!
Skyler Hardman I started tying a lot within the last year so watching videos like yours really helps with picking up new things. I've even designed a couple of my own custom flies that have caught me some awesome fish. Keep coming out with awesome content. One fly I don't see anyone tie is the rubber leg copper john. Its a fairly useful pattern when you want to fish bottom without worry about losing one or a few. Tightlines man and keep the videos coming!
Thanks a bunch Chris, I'll do my best to keep putting out a new video every week. I almost enjoy tying more than I do fishing and it makes me happy to hear your catching fish on your own patterns. There are two fish I'll never forget, the first fish I caught on a fly rod, and the first fish I caught on my own fly. Creating your own really elevates the sport to the next level in my opinion. Good luck with your flies and fishing, and again, thank you.
I'll bite. A really effective looking fly. I'm wondering if you ever fish this as a dropper, off a dry fly? If so, what works best in terms of the method used?
reubenr 1 I've never fished it off a dry though I see no reason you couldn't. Often the fish I'm targeting are near the bottom so I'm using this behind something big and heavy like a weighted pats rubber leg. When fish are being really active I'll sometimes swing this at the end of a drift to get them to chase it but dead drifting has been the best so far.
I have also gone shallow behind an indicator off of a shelf into the head of a deep pool and fish came for it only a couple feet down. That would probably be a great time to put it behind a dry.
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Where can I buy this fly
Unfortunately not anywhere at the moment. I'm working on fixing that though.
Does it work in ocean fishing???
I've never tried, but I don't see why it wouldn't.
Is the partridge tip tied in vertical or horizontal (flat across the hook)?
Flat, but it helps to put it in the side of the hook towards you and place it vertically so when it spins with the thread it ends up flat on top.
What UV resin do you use?
Loon thick and thin
@@skylerhardman1227 thanks
@@ravenelcurryv5374 No problem! I also put all the materials I use in the video description for each video just in case people want to reference it for materials.
which side of the line is the tag side in the intro clip 🤔
That's a great question Sloan. I always fish two nymphs and there was a large stonefly on the line as well. When the fish got in my net it quickly twisted up the line and since I try to return the fish to the water as quickly as possible I didn't take the time to untangle the line before shooting the video clip. I shot the video, released the fish and then untangled the line after the fish swam away. But to answer your question, neither one of the lines is the tag, the tag is cut very short next to the knot, the one over the head of the fish is the line from the scud and the other line is what got tangled up when it twisted. I wondered if someone was ever going to ask me that! haha
what's the closest dubbing to Arizona Diamond Dubbing please? Thank you
You might be able to get away with various different sow/scud dubbings. I used to use a Wapsi sow/scud dubbing that had really short fibers and that's what I used to tie this with but I haven't been able to find that particular dubbing in years. Just make sure the fibers are somewhat short, lots of the scud dubbings today have longer fibers than I like and would make the legs more difficult to create. Ice dub would probably work though I haven't tried it. Hope that helped!
Will Arizona SimiSeal work for this pattern?
To be honest I've never tried, the only issue I could see is that the fibers are a lot longer and might not twist as well in the split thread to make the legs, but the only way to know for sure is to try it!
Where are you finding 0.10 lead wire? I've been looking for awhile but the smallest I've been able to find is 0.15
Yep that was definitely a typo, sorry about that, thanks for catching it for me I'll need to change it. I did use .015 lead wire, but if you want to tie these smaller and need .010 lead wire Hareline makes some. I looked around and found some on Ebay I'll put a link to you so you know what it looks like.
www.ebay.com/itm/Lead-Wire-Soft-Round-Spool-010-Fly-Tying-/201399806535
Skyler Hardman Thanks for the link. I've been looking for the 0.10 lead for some smaller flies. I had been using sticky-back lead sheets that I cut into thin strips but think the 0.10 wire will be faster and easier. Great looking tie. I'll be tying some of these. I've liked and subscribed. Looking forward to your other ties
Thanks a bunch I'll keep trying to put out good stuff. I guess it's a good thing I wrote down the wrong size haha. I'm glad I was able to help. I used to use lead tape as well but I think it's easier to prevent the wire from slipping around the shank, I think you're right that you'll find it easier as well. Thanks again and good luck on the river, I hope these scuds treat you well!
Can you use any color
I don't see why you couldn't. I would try a variety of colors and see what works best.
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artis you are
Thank you!
Would you tie up a couple of these for me? 6 of each color u tie. I will pay you for time
I definitely can, I'm currently pretty busy with a large order and some car troubles. I'll send you a private message with my email address once I've gotten things under control.
Skyler Hardman thank u sir
Hey I really need to apologize this summer ended up being crazier than I thought. My car was beyond justifiable repair and we had to get a new one. That on top of a thousand other things led to me forgetting to message you back. If you're still interested you can email me at rodsreelsandflies@gmail.com and we can sort out details.
Skyler Hardman will do
Do you sell these?
At the moment I don't, but I am going to try and get them into a catalog, we'll see if I have any luck doing so.
Hello Skyler,
does your fly ride upright or upside-down?
I only fish this on freestone streams and tailwaters so most of the time it is flipping over in the current but from my observations it typically rides upright. I'm sure by playing with the lead wire you could change that.
pattern please
I'm sorry if I misunderstand, do you want a list of materials? If so you can find it in the description of the video. If you want something other than the materials list please let me know and I'll gladly help!
Nothing about the silk you mis-tied around the hook at the end of the fly?
Well I'll be the first to admit that I'm not perfect, you can ask my friends I make a lot of mistakes, but I'm trying my best to share what I do. As to the "Nothing about the silk you mis-tied" I don't really know what you want me to say here, do you mean my thread at the bend of the hook is showing? If so I could probably take a little more care to make it cleaner, but the fish's opinion is the only one I really care about and they don't seem to mind, haha.
Can you send me any of your extra materials for free
Sorry man, I rarely have extra materials and my 4 year old loves to tie now so any extra stuff I usually give to her. Try finding fly fishing club or a hunting group. There are usually loads of people who will give you a feather here, some thread there.
Poor fish, the baiting is a fake can’t even eat
Haha, nice
Very well done. Thank you.
Thank you!
Very well done. Thank you.
Thanks!