Both these tunes were absolutely in open E, as were Sympathy for the Devil, Street Fighting Man and YCAGWYW. Kieth didn't use Open G until Ry Cooder showed it to him during the Let It Bleed sessions. The secret source of JJF is that he used two accoustic guitars recorded through a Philips cassette deck (as he did with Street Fighting Man) one of which was in Nashville, i.e. the low E,A,D and G were replaced with octave 12Str strings which produces that crystalline menace to those big B chords. Secondly I believe he may have have tuned them to Eb and put a capo on 1 to make the E chord sound more like the B in tone, not ring so much. The secret source of the main rhythm part of Gimmie Shelter is a rare amp called a Triumph that had a unique in built vibrato which produced that particular sound which is virtually impossible to exactly emulate. Once Kieth switched to open G, Honky Tonk Women being his first recording with that tuning, he never used open E again. The reason I would guess, from my own experience, is that the shapes you use for both open G and E are mostly identical except the open E ones are all one string down so it really confuses your muscle memory if you try to switch between them, it's too easy to make a horrible mistake, especially live. As a result he has never played either JJF or Gimmie Shelter in open E live since the big switch to open G in 1969. Since then he has always played JJF transposed to open G, capo on 4. He never plays the original B-E-A intro since then either because of this change 'cos he has no access to the low E chord required for that, he goes straight in on the main verse riff, always. Again since the change to open G he has always played Gimmie Shelter in standard tuning live, again because would have no access to the bottom E in required for the chorus section in open G, not in his five string open G set up anyway. This is of course why live renditions of these tunes don't sound like the original recordings. It's also I believe why the Stones rarely play Street Fighting Man live. I haven't worked it out but I imagine it would be hard to transpose that satisfactorily to either open G or standard tuning, that's probably why.
You know your Keith, but he said Open D not eb and in Sympathy there isn`t much guitar, except the solo, Gimme shelter has 6 guitar tracks in open and standard tuning.
@@philfrank9226 That would make sense as capo would go on two, less stress on the stings over the nut etc. There's a documentary film of them making Sympathy and Kieth was clearly playing an acoustic tuned open E - no idea if it ever made into the final mix, as you say it's not obvious. Gimmie Shelter may well have six guitar tracks but there's only one rhythm part that really matters, innit :)
@@Gregorovitch144 Yes 1&1 showed it. Do you know the book Rolling Stones gear. 4 me the best book about the Stones.Every song every instrument and amps. We all forget, that Brian Jones played in open G in 1962.
@@philfrank9226 Keith Richards would've certainly known about open tunings before he met Ry Cooder, after listening to countless blues records and through musicians like Taj Mahal and Jesse Ed Davis. So, it begs the question, why wasn't he using it before he met Ry Cooder? Apparently, what Ry Cooder showed him was that open tunings weren't just useful for slide guitar, but you could use them for other things, like riffs and embellishments. And, after that lightbulb moment, the rest is history, as they say.
"It's not right ,something not right" happened so often over the years for those with a good ear....until wonderful guitar compatriots like yourself bring us the REAL DEAL .With appreciation from your fellow Guitar Players....THANK YOU
Remember, they did have two guitars on the majority of their songs. So all the second guitar parts you hear in JJF are possibly done in real time, no overdubs
Re; the knobs..first thing I tell budding electric guitarists of any age. Get an acoustic, learn to play that. Learn songs on your electric, unplugged first, get the notes and chords ringing or palm muting as called for, then worry about your amp, your effects, signal path etc. Biggest thing, unless you’re playing metal, no one is using as much distortion as you think you heard. Learn to listen Less is More! Thanks for another great video.
Another great classic English rock song using the open-E tuning is 'Stay With Me' by the 'Faces', which is on their album, 'A Nod Is As Good As a Wink… to a Blind Horse'. Rod Stewart is on lead vocals; Ronnie Wood plays lead, rhythm, and slide guitar; Ian McLagan plays the Wurlitzer electronic piano; Ronnie Lane is on bass, and Kenney Jones on drums. A classic band if I ever heard one! Ronnie Wood uses a Zemaitis “disc-front” solid-body guitar that Tony Zemaitis custom-built for him in the early '70s. It's quipped with three Gibson PAF humbuckers, each with its own volume and tone controls and individual push switches that enabled any conceivable combination of the three pickups. The Zemaitis also features a distinctive circular aluminium “scratch plate” that enhances the guitar’s natural resonance. It also has a built-in battery-powered booster, which is engaged by pulling up the master volume control on the upper bout.
Thank you for the most useful quarter of an hour I had all day. You nailed it for two of the best Stones songs in record time! Also a massive thanks for the volume and tone pot advice. Have a drink on me! Matt
Excellent lesson and tips. Thank you so much. Back in the seventees when I first started playing, computers and UA-cam where pipe dreams away. It was a slow slog to get the tunings and cords ect. Unless someone explained in the flesh.Stamina and patients were a must. Love It...
Stones invented a sound all of their own and Gimmie Shelter is probably one deepest darkest sounds ever produced by any rock band. You are giving us a look at whats going on under the bonnet so to speak thank you.
One key bit of magic? They somehow constructed the bereaved from one unchanging chord. And somehow it still builds and builds in tension, looking to resolve. And how is it resolved? By beginning the chorus with the exact same chord.
Another awesome lesson. Knew about open G, but not open E for Keith. Your rationale for the record sound makes absolute sense. But the best is your parting admonitions regarding tone settings. As an electronics engineer I'm appalled that everyone just uses 10 for volume and tone (and 11 if they could!!) negating all the effort to give aural range. As a guitarist? On 10 every time 🙄🤣 and get my tone via amp modelling and effects (I have a Spark, pls no hate). But you're right, the sweet spot on every electronics curve is at 70-80% not 100%. Great "homework" teach, and great channel 🙏👏🎸🙂.
Thanks David - yeah I've seen that too. I've also seen him play it with standard tuning in Rock n Roll Circus. Neither sound like how he did it on the record to my ear though - I could be wrong, but that was what I wanted to test out/explore in the vid.
Jumpin' Jack Flash is not open E tuning. Brian Jones plays the rhythm on Jumpin' Jack Flash and he plays it in std tuning. There is a video where you can see him doing it. He's playng his B chord barred at the 2nd & 4th frets. You'll see the little riff is done on the low E and 5th strings. It's that simple.
Well thanks for solving an issue I've had since '76. Some editing and post-production with close ups and such, your channel will do well. I liked your presentation style. I wouldn't believe anything most famous guitar players tell about how they get their sound - telling misleading porkers is part of the 'myth'.
From the brief clips in the 1968 promo video (the only 60s performance where you can watch him play it in open E), it looks like Keef is playing the riff barred at the 7th fret. For me, it’s too hard to tell the difference though, since there are 3-4 guitars.
Yeah saw that, cant say i see enough there to say for sure what he's doing. Also saw him playing it on rock and roll circus at whst looked like standard tuning. I swear it never sounds right to me on standard tuning, but I don't know I've ever seen him play it in open E. Ppen g maybe and standard, but neither of those sound right to me.
@@12footchain ua-cam.com/video/GFiKfrz_-dk/v-deo.html after the song came out in 1968, they recorded this promo where keith appears to be playing open E barred at the 7th. In the R&R circus he played standard tuning in B with barred A shapes, and since then he’s done it in open G with a capo at the 4th. I imagine this video is how he would’ve played it in the studio as well
I DL’d a well known Stones bootleg called Obsidian and there’s an early Jumping Jack Flash recording and it sounds like Mick Taylor is playing lead guitar. It’s presumably recorded in the spring of 68 probably at Olympic studio. I know Mick Taylor didn’t join till summer 69 but I heard once he had previously jammed with the Stones before he joined. The lead guitar might be Richards but it’s got that Mick Taylor sound.
So tried this tuning. Cheers. Was great to play along with gimme Shelter. Sounds good on Jumpin Jack flash but not when played along with the album. Would love to know exactly how it's done. Since my band dissolved I play along with the tracks but this one doesn't work
@@philcousins910,What did you Get Keith on the Phone & ask him, Love to know what you Checked Cause ur Frigging wrong. Stones have never used E flat tuning for a song.
Keith gets it mixed up, unfortunately. It's "Street Fighting Man" that has no electric guitars on it (aside from electric bass). JJF definitely has electric (and acoustic) guitars on it.
I would say, personally. Spot on 🤘🤘 jumpin Jack is one of my favorite song's of all time. Thank you for this. Gave me new insight. Guess I gotta tune one of my guitars to the, Stones. Just like I have one of mine tuned to bon scott acdc
Sounds great to me. I grew up with the stones and the Beatles and that sounds spot on. I hope you're in a band if you're not you sure as heck should be LOL
Love it! You sound closer to the studio recording than anyone else I’ve heard. Even The Stones(haha)! If you’ve heard them live you’ll probably notice they do not sound like their albums. What Keith Richards lacks in technic, he makes up in innovation. Very difficult to reproduce live!
I've noticed when attempting to play-along with the album version of Jumping Jack Flash, that the recording is somewhat between the cracks of Open E & E♭ ... I don't feel it's that The Stones tuned down, but instead slowed the tape down just a hair in the studio, which gives the song that murky, deep, dragging sound - which can be heard on Mick's vocals as well. I'm not 100% sure that's what they did, but seems like it IMHO. It would explain why the live versions sound slightly different from the original recording. 🤔 Cool lesson on the versatile tuning. I've always loved the Open E/D tuning. From The Stones to Replacements/Paul Westerberg to Dylan's Blood On The Tracks album. ✌
yeah - I know what you mean regarding being between the cracks. All analog tape, he recorded the backing track guitars on a portable tape player, played back into a microphone and recorded that to the main tape in the studio, who knows what speed it was playing at obviously off of A440 by a touch. Makes it that much cooler.
Love your comments about the volume and tone knobs! I feel like the volume knob (which should be called a gain knob) is like another tone control. The difference between “volume” and “gain” is huge because gain actually changes your tone.
All acoustic is a myth. 1 acoustic into cassette recorder, that was played back and recorded to pro multi-track. Then normal overdubbing with electrics etc. He never used to claim JJF was all acoustics, his memories have evidently merged with SFM.
Dear 12 Foot Chain, Salutations and Best Wishes from England mate! Our volume and tone knobs on our guitars go up to 11 mate, just like our amps go to 11. You know like… when you’re playing on 10 and there’s no where to go? Ours go to 11. That’s like one more. Cheers Mate!!! Nigel Tufnel Spın̈al Tap
Nice video and great comments about the tone controls. Every once in awhile these questions comes up: Why do my knobs act weird with the toggle switch in the middle position? I never use the middle position. What good is it any way? Next up, how about digging for gold. There is sonic gold available when using the toggle switch in the middle position. Suggestion: How about doing a video showing what can be achieved with the volume and tone controls, and the toggle switch is in the middle position.
before his death GRAHAM PARSONS actually turned KEITH on to alternate tunings. after that damn near all the STONES songs were written with alternate tunings although many cans till be played in 440. and btw just fer shits and giggles i checked out the 'ROCK N' ROLL CIRCUS' version of this tune and it seems as though KEITH was forever changing how he played this tune because the positions are different from what you do here but yer positions def. sound more like the album version.
There’s a hilariously inept version of Gimme Shelter with U2 playing with the Stones. Bono sadly has been given a guitar to play. And what does he play? Why, he plays a standard Chuck Berry power chord rhythm…. As in, for each chord, the notes: 1-5 1-5 1-6 1-5 And it totally screws the sound, because he’s pushing the major, ‘happy’ flavour, while this song lives and breathes on suspended 4ths and chords without 3rds (or t’oids, as Daltrey calls them). The bizarre thing he’s clearly utterly unaware of the clash of tonalities.
The original recording sounded heavy on piano I thought through the opening stanza with an acoustic guitar run through a cheap recorder and then distorted somehow slightly in the background of the piano. It could have been open E tuning. Once it gets to the chorus lines it uses some heavy acoustic guitar distortion which has never been done live. Live versions are great but a definite variation from the original which closes out with blaring bagpipes. Lots of recording tricks in the original version that was a masterpiece.
There’s a laughable (appalling) vid of a tone-deaf Bono playing w Stones doing Gimme Shelter…w Bono strumming along in a std Chuck Berry pattern….adding that vi constantly…. clueless about how he’s clashing with everyone else….and that he’s trying to force a happy major chord on the root.
Thanks. I've been practicing GS in std. tuning, but as much as I like it, it does not have that Stones sound. And you cannot replicate that chord sound that you demonstrated, which is essential to the song. Good job.
Gimme Shelter ..... I believe the solo is in standard tuning and it is seriously easy (All minor Pentatonic) I think But you are correct in the rhythm part being in major... Keith was in a dark head space on this obviously buy he doesn't us minor except for some of the solo.... one just has to learn it... Plenty of tremelo on the rhythm parts ..... Gimme Shelter.... has more voodoo than any song I know...
Keith's Gimme Shelter intro one of his best. I think it was recorded in Open E but he plays live in Open G capo'ed at 4. Ronnie's Stay With Me [Faces] also has an awesome Open E tune intro.
Great to see the authentic tunings being used...for the full effect on Gimme Shelter use tremolo on the intro. You can always turn it off for the full chords although It sounds good if you just leave it especially if there is a second guitarist.
I watch Keith on stage and he uses a capo on the 4th and then plays an E power chord which is A in standard tuning. Every stage performance is different and therefore there is no precise tuning. Likewise with gimme shelter
It would be really nice, if you do a video on Hotel California with the solos (preferably the live version, because it's very epic and interesting...) And I'm looking forward to a video Jumpin'Jack Flash
I find it easier to tune to open D -- no "up" tunings required -- and capo 2, which gives you open E.
I do open d minor so easy to play for example major chords
It's certainly easier on your instrument's neck...
I read an interview with Keef and he said he did open D with capo. Said it sounds “tighter.”
What is position of capo
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Both these tunes were absolutely in open E, as were Sympathy for the Devil, Street Fighting Man and YCAGWYW. Kieth didn't use Open G until Ry Cooder showed it to him during the Let It Bleed sessions. The secret source of JJF is that he used two accoustic guitars recorded through a Philips cassette deck (as he did with Street Fighting Man) one of which was in Nashville, i.e. the low E,A,D and G were replaced with octave 12Str strings which produces that crystalline menace to those big B chords. Secondly I believe he may have have tuned them to Eb and put a capo on 1 to make the E chord sound more like the B in tone, not ring so much. The secret source of the main rhythm part of Gimmie Shelter is a rare amp called a Triumph that had a unique in built vibrato which produced that particular sound which is virtually impossible to exactly emulate.
Once Kieth switched to open G, Honky Tonk Women being his first recording with that tuning, he never used open E again. The reason I would guess, from my own experience, is that the shapes you use for both open G and E are mostly identical except the open E ones are all one string down so it really confuses your muscle memory if you try to switch between them, it's too easy to make a horrible mistake, especially live. As a result he has never played either JJF or Gimmie Shelter in open E live since the big switch to open G in 1969. Since then he has always played JJF transposed to open G, capo on 4. He never plays the original B-E-A intro since then either because of this change 'cos he has no access to the low E chord required for that, he goes straight in on the main verse riff, always. Again since the change to open G he has always played Gimmie Shelter in standard tuning live, again because would have no access to the bottom E in required for the chorus section in open G, not in his five string open G set up anyway. This is of course why live renditions of these tunes don't sound like the original recordings. It's also I believe why the Stones rarely play Street Fighting Man live. I haven't worked it out but I imagine it would be hard to transpose that satisfactorily to either open G or standard tuning, that's probably why.
Great information, thank you!
You know your Keith, but he said Open D not eb and in Sympathy there isn`t much guitar, except the solo, Gimme shelter has 6 guitar tracks in open and standard tuning.
@@philfrank9226 That would make sense as capo would go on two, less stress on the stings over the nut etc. There's a documentary film of them making Sympathy and Kieth was clearly playing an acoustic tuned open E - no idea if it ever made into the final mix, as you say it's not obvious. Gimmie Shelter may well have six guitar tracks but there's only one rhythm part that really matters, innit :)
@@Gregorovitch144 Yes 1&1 showed it. Do you know the book Rolling Stones gear. 4 me the best book about the Stones.Every song every instrument and amps.
We all forget, that Brian Jones played in open G in 1962.
@@philfrank9226 Keith Richards would've certainly known about open tunings before he met Ry Cooder, after listening to countless blues records and through musicians like Taj Mahal and Jesse Ed Davis. So, it begs the question, why wasn't he using it before he met Ry Cooder? Apparently, what Ry Cooder showed him was that open tunings weren't just useful for slide guitar, but you could use them for other things, like riffs and embellishments. And, after that lightbulb moment, the rest is history, as they say.
Greatness! Gimme Shelter has such a mood; never learned that tune...thanks for the hack!
3 chords!
"It's not right ,something not right" happened so often over the years for those with a good ear....until wonderful guitar compatriots like yourself bring us the REAL DEAL .With appreciation from your fellow Guitar Players....THANK YOU
Gimme Shelter...just hearing that riff makes my blood chill! this is great stuff!
thanks - I also updated this a bit and made a dedicated vid on Gimme Shelter recently you may enjoy. ua-cam.com/video/VNlvE4b-2Ig/v-deo.html
Jack Pearson said the same thing about the tone and volume knobs😎…u guys are right
I love the fact that most, if not all, Rolling Stones lessons say that you don't need to be too precise haha. Great lesson, thanks for sharing it!
You're on it! 👍 Ron Wood used open E too. All the rockers from "A Nod Is As Good As A Wink". And whip out your Dan Armstrong Plexiglas!
Remember, they did have two guitars on the majority of their songs. So all the second guitar parts you hear in JJF are possibly done in real time, no overdubs
Love that holy Cow! Epic Sounds!!! And the holy Truth about Tone Knobs.... Love it!
Your advice on the tone knobs hit me today... I've always had everything at 10 and today it finally clicked... Thanks
Re; the knobs..first thing I tell budding electric guitarists of any age. Get an acoustic, learn to play that. Learn songs on your electric, unplugged first, get the notes and chords ringing or palm muting as called for, then worry about your amp, your effects, signal path etc. Biggest thing, unless you’re playing metal, no one is using as much distortion as you think you heard. Learn to listen Less is More! Thanks for another great video.
Keiths memory is often wrong. And the Flash-riff was Bill’s.
Another great classic English rock song using the open-E tuning is 'Stay With Me' by the 'Faces', which is on their album, 'A Nod Is As Good As a Wink… to a Blind Horse'. Rod Stewart is on lead vocals; Ronnie Wood plays lead, rhythm, and slide guitar; Ian McLagan plays the Wurlitzer electronic piano; Ronnie Lane is on bass, and Kenney Jones on drums. A classic band if I ever heard one!
Ronnie Wood uses a Zemaitis “disc-front” solid-body guitar that Tony Zemaitis custom-built for him in the early '70s. It's quipped with three Gibson PAF humbuckers, each with its own volume and tone controls and individual push switches that enabled any conceivable combination of the three pickups. The Zemaitis also features a distinctive circular aluminium “scratch plate” that enhances the guitar’s natural resonance. It also has a built-in battery-powered booster, which is engaged by pulling up the master volume control on the upper bout.
A great song to cover, and you really have to get your timing right when the tempo changes!
It’s a great tune to play even on a 3string cigar box guitar as I do (tuned GDg) 💪
You got the right sound; that Keith sound. Thanks.
Great tutorial. Been playing JJF and GS in standard tuning for years. And they never sounded right. They are so much more powerful in open E! Thanks.
Just got my first electric guitar and these lessons are a godsend. Sounds just like the original recordings. You the man!
Glad to hear it! Good luck in your new guitar adventure!
excellentes vidéo thank you
Thank you for the most useful quarter of an hour I had all day. You nailed it for two of the best Stones songs in record time! Also a massive thanks for the volume and tone pot advice. Have a drink on me! Matt
Thank you very much
Fantastic lesson thanks, subscribed! Totally agree it sounds way more authentic played this way. Never feels right in standard.
Excellent lesson and tips. Thank you so much. Back in the seventees when I first started playing, computers and UA-cam where pipe dreams away. It was a slow slog to get the tunings and cords ect. Unless someone explained in the flesh.Stamina and patients were a must.
Love It...
Sounds different but not dead on, but classic song 🙄 👍
The Stones did played this version on the movie "Rock and Roll Circus" and sounded ugly. But vibe is still awesome!!!
Stones invented a sound all of their own and Gimmie Shelter is probably one deepest darkest sounds ever produced by any rock band. You are giving us a look at whats going on under the bonnet so to speak thank you.
One key bit of magic?
They somehow constructed the bereaved from one unchanging chord.
And somehow it still builds and builds in tension, looking to resolve.
And how is it resolved?
By beginning the chorus with the exact same chord.
That's it. Jumpin' Jack Flash as played on the record.
Keith plays it live with the guitar tuned to Open G and a capo on the 4th fret nowadays
Great job on those high riffs in JJ flash. That's been during me crazy. Thanks
If you watch this video in full, by the end, you will understand the genius of Keith Richards.
Holy cow! Love that saying. Just as I thought, another incredible eye-opening lesson. Thank you so much. Cheers from the great white north..
On Live gigs Keith played it in Open-G most of the time I reckon
Yup, open G, capo 4th fret for a lot of songs.
love the comment about "sloppin' in". always thought the worst thing a cover band could do was play "can't ya hear me knockin'" just like the record!
Another awesome lesson. Knew about open G, but not open E for Keith. Your rationale for the record sound makes absolute sense. But the best is your parting admonitions regarding tone settings. As an electronics engineer I'm appalled that everyone just uses 10 for volume and tone (and 11 if they could!!) negating all the effort to give aural range. As a guitarist? On 10 every time 🙄🤣 and get my tone via amp modelling and effects (I have a Spark, pls no hate). But you're right, the sweet spot on every electronics curve is at 70-80% not 100%. Great "homework" teach, and great channel 🙏👏🎸🙂.
Keith Richards has played Jumping Jack Flash in Open G (capo on the 4th fret)
Thanks David - yeah I've seen that too. I've also seen him play it with standard tuning in Rock n Roll Circus. Neither sound like how he did it on the record to my ear though - I could be wrong, but that was what I wanted to test out/explore in the vid.
@@12footchain Keith Richards has played Jumping Jack Flash many different ways as in key. It has been pointed out. (By different musicians on UA-cam)
Am sure I seen somewhere Keith Richards started playing Jumping Jack Flash in Open E.
That's how good The Rolling Stones are. The played Jumping Jack Flash many different ways as in key. As well as other songs
Shed Seven have a version of Jumping Jack Flash not sure what key it's in
Jumpin' Jack Flash is not open E tuning. Brian Jones plays the rhythm on Jumpin' Jack Flash and he plays it in std tuning. There is a video where you can see him doing it. He's playng his B chord barred at the 2nd & 4th frets. You'll see the little riff is done on the low E and 5th strings. It's that simple.
Got a link to that?
@@12footchain I think he might be referring to the Rock and Roll Circus version
I believe Jones is in standard and Richards is in E, or D with a capo on 2.
@@12footchainSearch Jumping Jack Flash promo videos. There are two played live in studio, one with makeup, one without.
@@12footchainCorrection, the makeup version is the studio recording with live Jagger vocal.
Open E tuning is a pain in the neck.
Well thanks for solving an issue I've had since '76.
Some editing and post-production with close ups and such, your channel will do well.
I liked your presentation style.
I wouldn't believe anything most famous guitar players tell about how they get their sound - telling misleading porkers is part of the 'myth'.
Thanks Vinny, much appreciated
@@12footchain you're welcome. Kudos from Brisbane, Horsetrailier...
Another brilliant lesson/demo from 12 foot chain ! Thanks so very much 🌠🌅👌
sweet, great pace and sound. nice lessons. check out my docs if you have any Stones interest. just sharing it to you , as you get it!
Definitely played it in that open E tuning , sounds good!
Really helpful. Thanks!
From the brief clips in the 1968 promo video (the only 60s performance where you can watch him play it in open E), it looks like Keef is playing the riff barred at the 7th fret. For me, it’s too hard to tell the difference though, since there are 3-4 guitars.
Yeah saw that, cant say i see enough there to say for sure what he's doing. Also saw him playing it on rock and roll circus at whst looked like standard tuning. I swear it never sounds right to me on standard tuning, but I don't know I've ever seen him play it in open E. Ppen g maybe and standard, but neither of those sound right to me.
@@12footchain ua-cam.com/video/GFiKfrz_-dk/v-deo.html
after the song came out in 1968, they recorded this promo where keith appears to be playing open E barred at the 7th. In the R&R circus he played standard tuning in B with barred A shapes, and since then he’s done it in open G with a capo at the 4th. I imagine this video is how he would’ve played it in the studio as well
Great video. It's been a while i was trying to play these songs right. And now it really sounds great. Nice to have such explanation !!
Thanks - great to hear it was helpful!
Gimme shelter is a masterpiece! And that quiet dark opening riff is like the tense calm before the wild storm hits, like dark clouds gathering.
I'm a fan of twisting her knobs. The guitar that is. Hahaha
Here ya go:
"The Rolling Stones - Jumping Jack Flash Guitar Lesson" (2013)
ua-cam.com/video/e0FgG0FQaqs/v-deo.html
I DL’d a well known Stones bootleg called Obsidian and there’s an early Jumping Jack Flash recording and it sounds like Mick Taylor is playing lead guitar. It’s presumably recorded in the spring of 68 probably at Olympic studio. I know Mick Taylor didn’t join till summer 69 but I heard once he had previously jammed with the Stones before he joined. The lead guitar might be Richards but it’s got that Mick Taylor sound.
Excellent
Great explanation. I’ve been working on this one and everyone is all over the place, lol. I agree, this sounds like the record. Thanks!
Thanks, much appreciated. glad it helped
Super super lesson! Gimme shelter intro has been a mystery to me and you shed the light sir! Thanks
So tried this tuning. Cheers. Was great to play along with gimme Shelter. Sounds good on Jumpin Jack flash but not when played along with the album. Would love to know exactly how it's done. Since my band dissolved I play along with the tracks but this one doesn't work
I disagree. The original record definitely uses open E. He never played again the same way including the "official video" that is on you tube
@@kenweinreich8472 il check the tunings again but had no luck previously. i since read it was eflat tuning...
@@philcousins910,What did you Get Keith on the Phone & ask him, Love to know what you Checked Cause ur Frigging wrong. Stones have never used E flat tuning for a song.
Great lesson. Thank you. Another great Stones blues track in the open E tuning is Prodical Son off Beggars Banquet.🙂🎸
There may be a minor in Gimme Shelter since Mick Taylor played on it.
Keith played all the guitars on Gimme Shelter.
Keith gets it mixed up, unfortunately. It's "Street Fighting Man" that has no electric guitars on it (aside from electric bass). JJF definitely has electric (and acoustic) guitars on it.
I would say, personally. Spot on 🤘🤘 jumpin Jack is one of my favorite song's of all time. Thank you for this. Gave me new insight. Guess I gotta tune one of my guitars to the, Stones. Just like I have one of mine tuned to bon scott acdc
what great content, thanks for sharing your hard work!
Thank you ! Your awesome.
Love this stuff. Keep going man
Sounds great to me. I grew up with the stones and the Beatles and that sounds spot on. I hope you're in a band if you're not you sure as heck should be LOL
Love it! You sound closer to the studio recording than anyone else I’ve heard. Even The Stones(haha)! If you’ve heard them live you’ll probably notice they do not sound like their albums. What Keith Richards lacks in technic, he makes up in innovation. Very difficult to reproduce live!
Nice work, I feel my life is enriched: I recall playing JJF wrong in many bands, ahh well
I've noticed when attempting to play-along with the album version of Jumping Jack Flash, that the recording is somewhat between the cracks of Open E & E♭ ... I don't feel it's that The Stones tuned down, but instead slowed the tape down just a hair in the studio, which gives the song that murky, deep, dragging sound - which can be heard on Mick's vocals as well. I'm not 100% sure that's what they did, but seems like it IMHO.
It would explain why the live versions sound slightly different from the original recording. 🤔
Cool lesson on the versatile tuning. I've always loved the Open E/D tuning. From The Stones to Replacements/Paul Westerberg to Dylan's Blood On The Tracks album. ✌
yeah - I know what you mean regarding being between the cracks. All analog tape, he recorded the backing track guitars on a portable tape player, played back into a microphone and recorded that to the main tape in the studio, who knows what speed it was playing at obviously off of A440 by a touch. Makes it that much cooler.
Honky Toink Women is a little off as well, open G doesn't quite mix with the original recording, i always thought they changed the tape speed.
It’s actually true tuning. The E we call isn’t E it’s a few hz above. Hence why lots of old 60’s songs are between tones.
Love your comments about the volume and tone knobs! I feel like the volume knob (which should be called a gain knob) is like another tone control. The difference between “volume” and “gain” is huge because gain actually changes your tone.
"bust that out" - yeah, so grab a guitar - "excuse me, I need to retune to open E first, anybody got a Snark?" ;D
One of the greatest ever bro. I have a blast with it!!
All acoustic is a myth. 1 acoustic into cassette recorder, that was played back and recorded to pro multi-track. Then normal overdubbing with electrics etc.
He never used to claim JJF was all acoustics, his memories have evidently merged with SFM.
What a fantastic lesson! Excellent channel, just subbed! Cheers and thanks bud!
Great .. my man..love it
Awesome !!
If you didn't tell me to not play that note at 12:30 I would have played that note. Lol thanks!
Dear 12 Foot Chain,
Salutations and Best Wishes from England mate! Our volume and tone knobs on our guitars go up to 11 mate, just like our amps go to 11. You know like… when you’re playing on 10 and there’s no where to go? Ours go to 11. That’s like one more.
Cheers Mate!!!
Nigel Tufnel
Spın̈al Tap
loving this channel, digging these lessons
Nice video and great comments about the tone controls. Every once in awhile these questions comes up: Why do my knobs act weird with the toggle switch in the middle position? I never use the middle position. What good is it any way?
Next up, how about digging for gold. There is sonic gold available when using the toggle switch in the middle position. Suggestion: How about doing a video showing what can be achieved with the volume and tone controls, and the toggle switch is in the middle position.
Middle position on any gibson/gretsch 2 pickup guitar (or tele) is my favorite tones by far. Good suggestion
please stop talking while playing. it’s not pleasing to the ear/brain. dont bash me just constructive criticism.
All good, thanks for the feedback
before his death GRAHAM PARSONS actually turned KEITH on to alternate tunings. after that damn near all the STONES songs were written with alternate tunings although many cans till be played in 440.
and btw just fer shits and giggles i checked out the 'ROCK N' ROLL CIRCUS' version of this tune and it seems as though KEITH was forever changing how he played this tune because the positions are different from what you do here but yer positions def. sound more like the album version.
There’s a hilariously inept version of Gimme Shelter with U2 playing with the Stones.
Bono sadly has been given a guitar to play.
And what does he play? Why, he plays a standard Chuck Berry power chord rhythm…. As in, for each chord, the notes:
1-5 1-5 1-6 1-5
And it totally screws the sound, because he’s pushing the major, ‘happy’ flavour, while this song lives and breathes on suspended 4ths and chords without 3rds (or t’oids, as Daltrey calls them).
The bizarre thing he’s clearly utterly unaware of the clash of tonalities.
The original recording sounded heavy on piano I thought through the opening stanza with an acoustic guitar run through a cheap recorder and then distorted somehow slightly in the background of the piano. It could have been open E tuning. Once it gets to the chorus lines it uses some heavy acoustic guitar distortion which has never been done live. Live versions are great but a definite variation from the original which closes out with blaring bagpipes. Lots of recording tricks in the original version that was a masterpiece.
The bagpipes you're hearing is Hammond organ played by Nicky Hopkins.
There’s a laughable (appalling) vid of a tone-deaf Bono playing w Stones doing Gimme Shelter…w Bono strumming along in a std Chuck Berry pattern….adding that vi constantly…. clueless about how he’s clashing with everyone else….and that he’s trying to force a happy major chord on the root.
Thanks. I've been practicing GS in std. tuning, but as much as I like it, it does not have that Stones sound. And you cannot replicate that chord sound that you demonstrated, which is essential to the song. Good job.
Thank you!
gr8 pls My Obsession and then also pls demonstrate I'm Yours and I'm Hers on a dual screen. thanQ
will look into those - thanks for the suggestions!
Hey Chain: Just stumbled across this. Whoa Sounds right! Had to run get out the Tele in E. Big Fun, HAH! You're the best, man...
Gimme Shelter ..... I believe the solo is in standard tuning and it is seriously easy (All minor Pentatonic) I think But you are correct in the rhythm part being in major... Keith was in a dark head space on this obviously buy he doesn't us minor except for some of the solo.... one just has to learn it... Plenty of tremelo on the rhythm parts ..... Gimme Shelter.... has more voodoo than any song I know...
Keith's Gimme Shelter intro one of his best. I think it was recorded in Open E but he plays live in Open G capo'ed at 4. Ronnie's Stay With Me [Faces] also has an awesome Open E tune intro.
GS is in c-sharp not B and live played always in standard tuning, as most on the album tune.
For JJF intro: i would bet he plays -77777 two times then 5^7 hammer on 5th string and then strums down A chord down from 4th: --5555.
Top tutorial.. Gr8 songs. 🎶🎶💯
Absolutely Fantastic!!…well done…uhh, what’s a tone knob…hahaha…rock on my brother 🤘
Great lesson! Thanks. Now Jumpin`Jack flash sounds like the record!
Excellent lesson. I’ve tried every tuning with this song (JJJ) and I definitely agree open E comes closest to the original recording.
Sounds excellent most garage bands might only have two or I guitar not like theeee lol
Great to see the authentic tunings being used...for the full effect on Gimme Shelter use tremolo on the intro. You can always turn it off for the full chords although It sounds good if you just leave it especially if there is a second guitarist.
I never heard Keith Richards say he ever used e tuning. I know he used G tuning and learned it from Ry Cooder; but definitely not E.
Like Larry Bird, you talked confident at the beginning and then backed it up with ausome content.👍🙂
Keef's main riff was played on an acoustic. It's key to sounding like the song.
I watch Keith on stage and he uses a capo on the 4th and then plays an E power chord which is A in standard tuning. Every stage performance is different and therefore there is no precise tuning. Likewise with gimme shelter
open D. Keith removes the lower E string on his Tele.
Merci....ça faitdu bien....(j'ai connu une époque où les guitaristes cachaient leur façon de jouer.)
Use your tone knobs or else all of Treekind will have contempt for you...
It would be really nice, if you do a video on Hotel California with the solos (preferably the live version, because it's very epic and interesting...) And I'm looking forward to a video Jumpin'Jack Flash
The opening for JJF was only used on the record. Try to find another version, live or otherwise that has it.
Yeah, cant find one. I don't like any of the other live version openings as much
They did the intro part early in the ‘89 Steel Wheels tour. I was at Alpine Valley when they did it and there is a soundboard recording out there.
@@gimmeshelter2151 Heresay...evidence?
There is 1 live version on UA-cam from before the open G change in 1969
I play JJF the same way, but Gimme Shelter is open G tuning.
I'm in open E now. Gimme Shelter....def one of the most fun songs to play.... and you're right...JJF much better in open E.
Anyone can hear that the opening chords (and more) are speeded up. In the refrain you can hear super high frequenvy notes
I think KEEF also used the Open C tuning.