Any professional will tell you they can't Diagnose from afar especially with Zero sessions or tests. Very unprofessional and inappropriate. Post the Psychiatrist's info so they will have to get a professional review.
Yup. the mail reeked of someone who didn't have anything engaging going in their life. Instead of medication, get a fucking hobby that's actually worth doing. Don't blunt your brain just to be more ordinary, that's truly nuts.
@@JimmyNuisancevery rare to like doing something that's easy to make money from. If you want to live a normal life with a good job it's very hard and medication makes it easy, simple as that.
Hay Bill, Not commenting on this, but wandered if you been reading some of the articles surrounding Trevor Bauer. I have been listening to you podcast for quite some time, and I would love to hear your take on this. Thanks Billy Bad Ass
The ending to this is why I love Bill. 💯 on the mark with the medication comment. Do not treat medication as a cure. I am 40 today and basically everyone I knew in my childhood that was forced meds are messed up by today's standards. It is a crime against humanity.
Bill I'm also a psychiatrist and when I comment online I often give a verification link to my board certification. The reason I do this is because so many online commenters pretend their 5 courses in undergrad gives them expertise and they will call themselves a psychiatrist. And, btw, it took me 15 years to get this physicians specialty certificate. I am a medical doctor, not a psyCHOLogist, who just have graduate degrees. When you call us the O word you are saying we aren't physicians. It is insulting
Decades long fan. Bill, he’s telling you his credentials, so you know it’s not some clueless person with opinions based on nothing. I say this as someone who came from a working class/steel mill town, your Gen, had a really tough upbringing, busted my hump my whole life to get away from it, & then managed to get a degree in Biology/Chem bc I really wanted to do research. I didn’t go to college til I was 30. You’ll prob be pissed at me for saying this, but I grew up a lot like you. That guy was writing from good intentions. I dont know you. I’m aware of that. I’ve watched you in a lot of podcasts this year. Maybe there’s increasing pressure in your life. I know nothing about your line of work from the business end. I dont work anymore. Fine one day, severely I’ll the next. Can’t talk out loud, go outside or walk around.. and I get foggy brained sometimes bc I’ve a low oxygen/metabolic issue. My fingers get stiff and sluggish and I make typos a lot. I miss work. I used yo do so many things. Anyhow, I guess I wanted to say, unless I missed the humor, you seemed to take it personal immediately. You seem angrier lately.. I see more of a sharper edge to your humor, directed at some of your friends/fellow comedians sometimes? It just made me wonder if you’re under a lot of pressure bc I can get that way sometimes. You can tell me to go F myself too as this is prob out of bounds.. but the internet is so weird. We get to know you but we’re total strangers.. I’m not judging. I’m probably mistaken. God knows Ive got a lot of issues I still work through. Well take care and I wish you & your beautiful family all the happiness
I think our concern and desire to make comment comes from a good place. We've watched and learned from bill for too long not to care. But as a total stranger how does one show that, Idk, but your comment was obvious of how much you care, thanks for the nice read and well wishes!!
So you're capable of "hyper" focusing on things you find interesting but can't concentrate on things that don't interest you... Doesn't that just seem like everyone? Isn't that just normal?
the “psychiatrist” did not explain hyper fixation correctly at all. What a lot of people think is “hyper fixation” is literally just focusing on a task for the first time in their life.
Come on, man. Where have you been? Everything has to be a diagnosable condition now. Even the most normal behavior. Wait... Hang on... I'm so sorry... I didn't mean to come off snarky with my response but I suffer from ASS "Always Snarky Syndrome". My humblest apologies. I'll do better next time.
Yes, a lot of people can relate to adhd because everyone has that to an extent. ADHD treatement intervenes when that your brain has that in so high dosage that it makes your everyday difficult and it impedes on how you function. I'm 35 and been recently diagnosed and started medicating myself. The world before was like a blur and I would be very forgetful, and really would go from a task to another without being able to do anything 100%. medication changed that : however if Bill Blur here is probably adhd (the hyperactive variant seems to make people very emotional with stupid things, as Bill admits he does goes into a rage for stupid little things), it doesn't mean he needs medication or treatment if he finds a good balance in his life. Some ADHD variants also makes peole able to connect concepts togethers easily and is a good weapon in creativity, and Bill Burr's humor is testament to that
i've read a little bit about the neuroscience, and adhd summed up is basically boredom intolerance. adhd drugs help people to focus on boring stuff instead of only focusing on the things that are interesting. prescribing drugs for adhd is an attempt to make people more able to conform to the boring system (school, boring jobs) and it is not an attempt to make the person with adhd healthy. in a healthy society we would accept people's differences instead of seeing them as a cog in a machine that needs to be fixed
not true at all. ADHD is not like that. It can fuck you up even in things that you find interesting. And its more complicated then that. Stop spreading this nonsense.
This is a very reductive way of looking at things. And some of it is just outright wrong. Therapy and medication helps people with sustained attention, emotional regulation, frustration tolerance, sleep issues, forgetfulness, motivation etc. The idea that merely “Finding a job that you have interest in” is enough to completely eliminate the pervasiveness of the disorder is a misnomer. At some point you’re going to have obstacles like social interaction, monotonous events, burnout, random life events that can be disruptive (which people with ADHD may find more challenging to overcome) etc. additionally the “Non-boring stuff” is often going to be forms of dopamine hacking… you know like Drugs, sugar, advertisements, video game, gambling machines. All of the things that are designed to be EXTRA stimulating rather than basic life events like going to get something to eat or even watching a good television show. Of course the severity of the symptoms also matters but more severe forms of ADHD will mimic other disorders such as Dementia, ASPD, and even Autism Spectrum Disorder. Part of the reason why is because ADHD effects memory, sensory processing, AND behavioral controls.
@@gamester1440 i have adhd, and i agree adhd causes more problems than just boredom, but boredom is a core symptom. i do take a very small dose of adhd medication cause my adhd is pretty severe, but the medications for adhd are similar to meth and cocaine. they are unhealthy and addictive, and when 6 year olds are put on a bunch of amphetamine meds, its a bit concerning, and its not helping the child in the long run. but it does help teachers and parents who want the kid to behave and do better in school. i would even go so far as to say its child abuse sometimes when a child is overmedicated
Focus BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :) I was not one them kids throwing chairs across the room in 70s we use to call hyperactive. labels man Special Ed was definitely Experimental in my day , I`m perfectly normel other than being Dyslexic and have been seen a genus becose i could load the 16mm movie projector :) I ruled the AV Department
Id considered studying psychology....until I signed up for psychology classes. Weve all got issues, but from the classes I took, it was obvious that many of the students seemed to be there to deal with their own issues....and rather than work out the cause of peoples wrong thinking, it seems that the goal was to nourish that wrong thinking, pandering and cultivating the dysfunction rather than working though it and moving on. Like dealing with addictions, and being told that once a drunk, always a drunk. I call BS on that. If always a drunk, then the solution was wrong. When I suggested we ALWAYS have a choice, the teacher and most of the class would moan and groan. I was dismissed from class for suggesting that proper understanding and acceptance of our wrong thinking should resolve the problem so we could move on. I was insulted for thinking we have the capability to actually change rather than medicate and endlessly counsel ourselves. Its reminiscent of medical drs just putting people on meds to make them happy and shut them up until their next visit rather than solving the problem. Your obese because of what you put down your mouth hole, your sad because you expect people to behave in a way they never will, you depressed about the world because you dont realize...that is life, you allegedly have adhd rather than someone that gets bored with boring things easily and need to find something more interesting to do. You feel unaccepted because someone said something mean rather than accepting some people are asses.....get over it. 'It just seems that more often than not, the solution is a lifetime subscription to medications rather than some hard love guidance to get it though peoples heads that their own thinking is their greatest enemy....Not food, mean people, boring things.
My close friend has ADHD and both the person Bill Burr is shitting on and the person being shitted on are right. I swear to god that my friend is a fucking genius, despite the fact I oftentimes have a hard time keeping up. The fact I can't keep up is not her problem; it's mine.
Making music is great when you have ADHD or if you're bipolar or similar. It demands a lot of brain juice to do right, and it's very engaging. I agree with you Bill. If your brain is working overtime, find tasks for it to churn through. Don't blunt it with drugs just so you'll feel more comfortable. Feel more comfortable with arts and video games and shit instead. With the hyper focus on interesting things comes the ability to learn a lot really fast. There's no shortage of hobbies out there to collect. If you're gonna drug your way to comfort, at least use something like weed so that your brain juices don't just go to waste. There's no value to JUST blunting your brain.. Weed has an inspirational component to it and lets you think differently. ADHD meds just fucks you up and makes you into a normal human. Who the fuck wants that? Normal people live boring soulless lives.
Eh. I’m 40 and have been a professional musician for almost the entirety of my adult life. I’ve also recently discovered that I’ve been living with an undiagnosed ADHD. It’s been such a pain in the ass to even get a diagnosis as an adult, almost precisely because of the misconception that hyper focus on the creative aspects of my career appear like a heightened sense of self discipline. The reality of living with something like that untreated is that while my focus has been “music” in a broad sense, I’ve lived in a perpetual cycle of yearly phases where I shift focuses within the field: guitarist, composer, teacher, theorist, content creator, guitarist, composer, teacher, theorist, content creator, etc… over and over again. What this has led to is something that amounts to a lack of follow through on projects and work that I have every bit the ability to complete, but the focal shifts create a meandering level of interest that manifests in self-sabotage (burned bridges, abandoning work, job hopping, etc…). To boot, all of this has brought about a crippling anxiety and major depressive disorder. And, I’ve been a marijuana user for most of that time- to varying degrees. It’s only been in recent years that I’ve given medication a shot- once recognizing I may need real help. Once finally diagnosed, the combination of medication and therapy has been a godsend. Unfortunately, marijuana did nothing but amplify anxieties and some of the negative aspects of hyper focus (if I have 1000 incomplete projects, marijuana only led me to hyper fixate on any one of those EXCEPT the one I actually needed to work on at that time, if that makes sense). Medication doesn’t “normalize” you. It doesn’t remove your creative drive. It doesn’t turn you into a zombie. It allows me to better decide my priorities and create a better distance from my thoughts in order to have more control over those choices. Something marijuana absolutely did not provide. Medication doesn’t cure it- rather allows me to live with it, responsibly. Bill’s just not correct in this clip. I’ve managed to have a career, despite my brain’s efforts to derail it at every chance. Had I had a diagnosis earlier and have had the treatment that I needed (balanced combination of therapy and medication), then I absolutely think my career would have had more solidity and success, if not just a better reputation for follow through and commitment. These aren’t things “weed and a can-do attitude” can just solve.
What doesn't help matters with Bill trying to read these emails is that people don't fucking proofread their shit before they send it. It's endlessly frustrating and compounded by the fact that this person felt the need to link their credentials yet couldn't be bothered to read their shit before they hit send. There have been worse but come on.
I'm a psychiatrist. The letter was fine except all the confrontational stuff at the beginning. You're a (good) comedian. I don't think you ever claimed to be an expert in ADHD.
Either a troll or the worst psychiatrist ever. The shrinks I've dealt with in life have not given me this kind of shit advice. Best shrink I had told me pretty much exactly what Bill said here. Don't view yourself as an abnormal freak who needs to conform.. Instead view yourself as an individual looking for meaning for yourself. You don't need to do drugs to fit into a mold that you were never made to fit into.. A mold that MOST OF US aren't made to fit into. Healthy or not, people hate the life they're dealt these days.. Doing drugs to fit in BETTER in the society we've ended up in is INSANE. Job too boring to keep you engaged? Do meth!!! ....abject insanity. No psychiatrist with any actual training would tell anyone this. Drugs are the last option if everything else fails and the disorder is intense. Then again, I'm from Norway, so the American model of psychiatric healthcare kinda doesn't get used here. The old "drugs drugs drugs!" mantra is the last resort, not the main form of treatment... Cause our doctors aren't paid by big pharma to sell drugs.. They don't get commission for every pack of meth sold to a child.. We shouldn't look to drugs to make us feel more at home in the world... Maybe instead just don't engage with the crappy parts of the world. Instead do stuff that's worthwhile. Imagine if your employer saw you at work being bored, then he throws amphetamines at you.... That would be absurd.
He talks a big game on stage and interviews, but these podcasts kinda show his true character, which is he's a real wuss and will crack under pressure. I get he's a comedian but some believe their own BS
How is he a wuss for embracing the positive sides of a speeding brain? Wouldn't a wuss be drawn towards medication to be more like everyone else? Maybe our definitions of what a wuss is differs. He didn't crack under pressure here, he was given shit advice. When someone gives an artist the advice to "get sum drugs to be more normal" that's clearly misguided and duuuuuuuuuuuumb. Bill's reply to this goofball is 100% merited, and a lot of people needed to hear it. Find something that gives value to your life rather than work your ass off to fit in with normal people and the society we live in. Society right now is NOT great, so doing drugs to fit in better is probably NOT the best idea. Take that to heart.
If you've ever listened to him talk, it's pretty obvious.. This particular podcast its very evident. He's all over the the place ignoring context clues forgetting things he just read.
@@urit.5428 I mean he sounds like he’s been told he has adhd or done some online test. Once you understand you have adhd, you wouldn’t be joking and dismissive like he does. Something doesn’t add up…
@@ok_roman err yeah you would if you were a comedian, especially if you're Bill Burr. Have you ever heard a topic Bill couldn't be joking and dismissive about? Have you heard Bill before? lol
As a psychologist, I can tell you right now without a doubt that this person is not a psychiatrist. This is a teenager with an interest in psychiatry that started on tik tok.
Yup. He definitely is not one and if he is, he's the worst psychiatrist I've come across and I'm a healthcare provider myself. Bill Burr would not be able to get involved with drums, be a world class comedian or fly a helicopter if he had undiagnosed moderate-severe ADHD. Just because someone doesn't read out loud extremely proficiently doesn't mean anything. Sounds like this psychiatrist got all his information from a quick google search.
Yup. As someone who has had a lot of dealings with psych professionals I agree. No one has ever given me the advice to just do drugs to fit in better.. That's the advice of an ignoramus who thinks that fitting into the fucked up reality we've ended up in is somehow desirable. People who fit in really well with society as it is right now should get the drugs. They're the ones who need it. Society is not in a great place right now. 1/3 of the US is in a fucking cult at this moment... If you have to do drugs to fit into this shit, maybe you're not actually ill at all.. Most work today is limited in scope because we all need to be easily replaced.. If you're doing drugs to make your unbelievably boring job palatable, it's not _you_ that is at fault.. It's the fucking job that SUCKS. Doing drugs to fit that kind of mold is a recipe for midlife suicide.
not really. i worked with a few adhd people, it's debilitating. it causes real difficulty and holds people back professionally. It's not normal "being distracted" etc.
@@pigup2Depends on your profession. If you're an accountant, sure. If you're a stand up comedian or any form of artist, heeeeeeeell no. Problem is that all jobs are simple and boring these days. They're simple and boring so that the employer can swap you out for a rube without much training needed. People who do well in normal jobs these days are out of the ordinary. Most people these days hate their jobs and look at the future negatively because they just see a long life of meaningless labor. That's even worse for people with ADHD or Bipolar or similar. Didn't use to be this boring. People had a broad set of tasks in their jobs back in the day. Now it's the same over and over and over. If you can do the same over and over and over, you'll do well professionally. That is not something to aspire to though...
He got so defensive I thought I was watching the 85' Chicago Bears.
Roselle !!
the fridge and singletary,, that was an awesome defense and i hate chicago !
Amazing comment.
I love that the person went through the trouble of capitalizing that they are a psyCHIAtrist, and Bill still managed to call them a psychologist🤣
or a chia pet ?
I think he expected Burr to say it with a Boston accent
Billy Boy with the perfect way to handle being sent a random link
Bill definitely just said “HDHD” instead of ADHD 😆
I read your comment right as he made that flub. 😂
he corrected himself, and said it perfectly fine many times earlier
High definition hyperactivity disorder
Thanks for the timestamp buddy….NOT
So what are you hyperfocused on, buddy?
He capitalized CHIA to differentiate himself from a psyCHOLOGist
And Bill _still_ got it wrong later in the video lol
Oh so he's a quack
@@ballathug8404what?
I think he expected Burr to say it with a Boston accent
Tom seguras wife definately emailed in
Bill ragging on the guy for trying to give him his professional credentials is so out of pocket and funny
It's a million percent NOT out of pocket
This is America’s psychiatrist
He’s our Dr Phil
The psychiatrist said he was diagnosed with HDHD, 3 minutes later Bill’s forgotten that point
Some random child psychiatrist sends along an email to offer a professional opinion.
Sounds REAL professional.
Bill here is as defensive as the Matt Damon character with the psychologist in good will hunting.
Writing in to “diagnose” a podcaster you follow is sus behaviour as a psychiatrist
I will from now on refer to ADHD as HD-HD. The podcasts won 🏆
Any professional will tell you they can't Diagnose from afar especially with Zero sessions or tests. Very unprofessional and inappropriate. Post the Psychiatrist's info so they will have to get a professional review.
Bill trying to read out loud is pretty solid entertainment, not going to lie
I feel like way too many people self diagnose themselves and use it as an excuse to just be pieces of trash
This psyCHIAtrist would be a good example of that
No shit.
Can you be more brilliant than that❣️ O Lord you had me cracking for full 7 min!😂
You do you Bill, you do you. It's your take on life and everyday living that keeps me laughing. I wish you and your family the best of the best!
Why did you say "You do you" twice?
bill is my comedycologis 😂
billy really reverse psychoanalyzed the guy
I knew his solution was big pharma drugs the moment I read the title.
well you can do meth instead and support your local cooks
Yup. the mail reeked of someone who didn't have anything engaging going in their life.
Instead of medication, get a fucking hobby that's actually worth doing. Don't blunt your brain just to be more ordinary, that's truly nuts.
men used to be men, now its different
@@JimmyNuisanceThey make my actually brain work, thanks though...
@@JimmyNuisancevery rare to like doing something that's easy to make money from. If you want to live a normal life with a good job it's very hard and medication makes it easy, simple as that.
I reacted the same way! Blew my top like Yosemite Sam! 😂 Hahaha
I love Bill Burr
Hay Bill, Not commenting on this, but wandered if you been reading some of the articles surrounding Trevor Bauer. I have been listening to you podcast for quite some time, and I would love to hear your take on this. Thanks Billy Bad Ass
The ending to this is why I love Bill.
💯 on the mark with the medication comment. Do not treat medication as a cure. I am 40 today and basically everyone I knew in my childhood that was forced meds are messed up by today's standards.
It is a crime against humanity.
Self involved bill you’re the poster boy for that
Bill I'm also a psychiatrist and when I comment online I often give a verification link to my board certification. The reason I do this is because so many online commenters pretend their 5 courses in undergrad gives them expertise and they will call themselves a psychiatrist.
And, btw, it took me 15 years to get this physicians specialty certificate. I am a medical doctor, not a psyCHOLogist, who just have graduate degrees. When you call us the O word you are saying we aren't physicians. It is insulting
Man, to all the folks who "just don't get why you need to medicate it," I love that for you.
Billy the Goddam Burr ladies and gentleman!
Decades long fan.
Bill, he’s telling you his credentials, so you know it’s not some clueless person with opinions based on nothing.
I say this as someone who came from a working class/steel mill town, your Gen, had a really tough upbringing, busted my hump my whole life to get away from it, & then managed to get a degree in Biology/Chem bc I really wanted to do research. I didn’t go to college til I was 30. You’ll prob be pissed at me for saying this, but I grew up a lot like you. That guy was writing from good intentions.
I dont know you. I’m aware of that. I’ve watched you in a lot of podcasts this year. Maybe there’s increasing pressure in your life. I know nothing about your line of work from the business end.
I dont work anymore. Fine one day, severely I’ll the next. Can’t talk out loud, go outside or walk around.. and I get foggy brained sometimes bc I’ve a low oxygen/metabolic issue. My fingers get stiff and sluggish and I make typos a lot.
I miss work. I used yo do so many things. Anyhow, I guess I wanted to say, unless I missed the humor, you seemed to take it personal immediately. You seem angrier lately.. I see more of a sharper edge to your humor, directed at some of your friends/fellow comedians sometimes? It just made me wonder if you’re under a lot of pressure bc I can get that way sometimes.
You can tell me to go F myself too as this is prob out of bounds.. but the internet is so weird. We get to know you but we’re total strangers..
I’m not judging. I’m probably mistaken. God knows Ive got a lot of issues I still work through. Well take care and I wish you & your beautiful family all the happiness
I think our concern and desire to make comment comes from a good place. We've watched and learned from bill for too long not to care. But as a total stranger how does one show that, Idk, but your comment was obvious of how much you care, thanks for the nice read and well wishes!!
This man is definitely not a psychiatrist
just hilarious top to bottom !
As soon as he started to flip it on the psychiatrist, I was like Oh no Bill, STOP, so telling.
So you're capable of "hyper" focusing on things you find interesting but can't concentrate on things that don't interest you... Doesn't that just seem like everyone? Isn't that just normal?
the “psychiatrist” did not explain hyper fixation correctly at all. What a lot of people think is “hyper fixation” is literally just focusing on a task for the first time in their life.
Come on, man. Where have you been? Everything has to be a diagnosable condition now. Even the most normal behavior.
Wait... Hang on... I'm so sorry... I didn't mean to come off snarky with my response but I suffer from ASS "Always Snarky Syndrome". My humblest apologies. I'll do better next time.
Yes, a lot of people can relate to adhd because everyone has that to an extent. ADHD treatement intervenes when that your brain has that in so high dosage that it makes your everyday difficult and it impedes on how you function. I'm 35 and been recently diagnosed and started medicating myself. The world before was like a blur and I would be very forgetful, and really would go from a task to another without being able to do anything 100%. medication changed that : however if Bill Blur here is probably adhd (the hyperactive variant seems to make people very emotional with stupid things, as Bill admits he does goes into a rage for stupid little things), it doesn't mean he needs medication or treatment if he finds a good balance in his life. Some ADHD variants also makes peole able to connect concepts togethers easily and is a good weapon in creativity, and Bill Burr's humor is testament to that
@@PabloYaos right on
No, most people can focus on things they're not interested in. Most of the time they don't, but when they need to they can.
i've read a little bit about the neuroscience, and adhd summed up is basically boredom intolerance. adhd drugs help people to focus on boring stuff instead of only focusing on the things that are interesting. prescribing drugs for adhd is an attempt to make people more able to conform to the boring system (school, boring jobs) and it is not an attempt to make the person with adhd healthy. in a healthy society we would accept people's differences instead of seeing them as a cog in a machine that needs to be fixed
Facts
not true at all. ADHD is not like that. It can fuck you up even in things that you find interesting. And its more complicated then that. Stop spreading this nonsense.
What about if it's reverse - boredom is great. What that would be?
This is a very reductive way of looking at things. And some of it is just outright wrong. Therapy and medication helps people with sustained attention, emotional regulation, frustration tolerance, sleep issues, forgetfulness, motivation etc. The idea that merely “Finding a job that you have interest in” is enough to completely eliminate the pervasiveness of the disorder is a misnomer. At some point you’re going to have obstacles like social interaction, monotonous events, burnout, random life events that can be disruptive (which people with ADHD may find more challenging to overcome) etc. additionally the “Non-boring stuff” is often going to be forms of dopamine hacking… you know like Drugs, sugar, advertisements, video game, gambling machines. All of the things that are designed to be EXTRA stimulating rather than basic life events like going to get something to eat or even watching a good television show. Of course the severity of the symptoms also matters but more severe forms of ADHD will mimic other disorders such as Dementia, ASPD, and even Autism Spectrum Disorder. Part of the reason why is because ADHD effects memory, sensory processing, AND behavioral controls.
@@gamester1440 i have adhd, and i agree adhd causes more problems than just boredom, but boredom is a core symptom. i do take a very small dose of adhd medication cause my adhd is pretty severe, but the medications for adhd are similar to meth and cocaine. they are unhealthy and addictive, and when 6 year olds are put on a bunch of amphetamine meds, its a bit concerning, and its not helping the child in the long run. but it does help teachers and parents who want the kid to behave and do better in school. i would even go so far as to say its child abuse sometimes when a child is overmedicated
Incredible... I miss billy burr
Lol. Fucking funny.
I find that medicinal mushrooms really help
1:30 turn around, 2:25 frame jiu jitsu
I’m two minutes in and this is fking torture
Focus BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :) I was not one them kids throwing chairs across the room in 70s we use to call hyperactive. labels man Special Ed was definitely Experimental in my day , I`m perfectly normel other than being Dyslexic and have been seen a genus becose i could load the 16mm movie projector :) I ruled the AV Department
Id considered studying psychology....until I signed up for psychology classes.
Weve all got issues, but from the classes I took, it was obvious that many of the students seemed to be there to deal with their own issues....and rather than work out the cause of peoples wrong thinking, it seems that the goal was to nourish that wrong thinking, pandering and cultivating the dysfunction rather than working though it and moving on.
Like dealing with addictions, and being told that once a drunk, always a drunk. I call BS on that. If always a drunk, then the solution was wrong.
When I suggested we ALWAYS have a choice, the teacher and most of the class would moan and groan.
I was dismissed from class for suggesting that proper understanding and acceptance of our wrong thinking should resolve the problem so we could move on.
I was insulted for thinking we have the capability to actually change rather than medicate and endlessly counsel ourselves. Its reminiscent of medical drs just putting people on meds to make them happy and shut them up until their next visit rather than solving the problem.
Your obese because of what you put down your mouth hole, your sad because you expect people to behave in a way they never will, you depressed about the world because you dont realize...that is life, you allegedly have adhd rather than someone that gets bored with boring things easily and need to find something more interesting to do. You feel unaccepted because someone said something mean rather than accepting some people are asses.....get over it.
'It just seems that more often than not, the solution is a lifetime subscription to medications rather than some hard love guidance to get it though peoples heads that their own thinking is their greatest enemy....Not food, mean people, boring things.
This post reeks of mental issues.
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lol
This guy isn't a psychiatrist.. well hopefully he's not.
My close friend has ADHD and both the person Bill Burr is shitting on and the person being shitted on are right. I swear to god that my friend is a fucking genius, despite the fact I oftentimes have a hard time keeping up. The fact I can't keep up is not her problem; it's mine.
Ha, ha how was your day. And zone out. Please click the link below.
Making music is great when you have ADHD or if you're bipolar or similar. It demands a lot of brain juice to do right, and it's very engaging. I agree with you Bill. If your brain is working overtime, find tasks for it to churn through. Don't blunt it with drugs just so you'll feel more comfortable. Feel more comfortable with arts and video games and shit instead. With the hyper focus on interesting things comes the ability to learn a lot really fast. There's no shortage of hobbies out there to collect.
If you're gonna drug your way to comfort, at least use something like weed so that your brain juices don't just go to waste. There's no value to JUST blunting your brain.. Weed has an inspirational component to it and lets you think differently. ADHD meds just fucks you up and makes you into a normal human. Who the fuck wants that? Normal people live boring soulless lives.
Eh. I’m 40 and have been a professional musician for almost the entirety of my adult life. I’ve also recently discovered that I’ve been living with an undiagnosed ADHD. It’s been such a pain in the ass to even get a diagnosis as an adult, almost precisely because of the misconception that hyper focus on the creative aspects of my career appear like a heightened sense of self discipline. The reality of living with something like that untreated is that while my focus has been “music” in a broad sense, I’ve lived in a perpetual cycle of yearly phases where I shift focuses within the field: guitarist, composer, teacher, theorist, content creator, guitarist, composer, teacher, theorist, content creator, etc… over and over again. What this has led to is something that amounts to a lack of follow through on projects and work that I have every bit the ability to complete, but the focal shifts create a meandering level of interest that manifests in self-sabotage (burned bridges, abandoning work, job hopping, etc…). To boot, all of this has brought about a crippling anxiety and major depressive disorder.
And, I’ve been a marijuana user for most of that time- to varying degrees. It’s only been in recent years that I’ve given medication a shot- once recognizing I may need real help. Once finally diagnosed, the combination of medication and therapy has been a godsend. Unfortunately, marijuana did nothing but amplify anxieties and some of the negative aspects of hyper focus (if I have 1000 incomplete projects, marijuana only led me to hyper fixate on any one of those EXCEPT the one I actually needed to work on at that time, if that makes sense).
Medication doesn’t “normalize” you. It doesn’t remove your creative drive. It doesn’t turn you into a zombie. It allows me to better decide my priorities and create a better distance from my thoughts in order to have more control over those choices. Something marijuana absolutely did not provide. Medication doesn’t cure it- rather allows me to live with it, responsibly.
Bill’s just not correct in this clip. I’ve managed to have a career, despite my brain’s efforts to derail it at every chance. Had I had a diagnosis earlier and have had the treatment that I needed (balanced combination of therapy and medication), then I absolutely think my career would have had more solidity and success, if not just a better reputation for follow through and commitment.
These aren’t things “weed and a can-do attitude” can just solve.
What doesn't help matters with Bill trying to read these emails is that people don't fucking proofread their shit before they send it. It's endlessly frustrating and compounded by the fact that this person felt the need to link their credentials yet couldn't be bothered to read their shit before they hit send. There have been worse but come on.
A tad bit defensive.
amazing how much he has accomplished for someone that can barely read at a grade 4 level
I'm a psychiatrist. The letter was fine except all the confrontational stuff at the beginning. You're a (good) comedian. I don't think you ever claimed to be an expert in ADHD.
Ptsd and trauma do the same type of shit. Whats this persons point?
bullying the guy into giving genuine advice into talking about titties
I was a Billy Boy when Billy Boy was an actual 45 one was given as a special present
The little boy inside just wanted to grow up and be a comedian.
Burr is so overly defensive
Maybe it's dyslexia.
It's called sydlexia
@@walter3433You have sex daily.
Yeah I don't buy it, he's not a shrink, I think this is a massive troll.
Either a troll or the worst psychiatrist ever.
The shrinks I've dealt with in life have not given me this kind of shit advice. Best shrink I had told me pretty much exactly what Bill said here. Don't view yourself as an abnormal freak who needs to conform.. Instead view yourself as an individual looking for meaning for yourself. You don't need to do drugs to fit into a mold that you were never made to fit into.. A mold that MOST OF US aren't made to fit into. Healthy or not, people hate the life they're dealt these days.. Doing drugs to fit in BETTER in the society we've ended up in is INSANE.
Job too boring to keep you engaged? Do meth!!! ....abject insanity. No psychiatrist with any actual training would tell anyone this. Drugs are the last option if everything else fails and the disorder is intense.
Then again, I'm from Norway, so the American model of psychiatric healthcare kinda doesn't get used here. The old "drugs drugs drugs!" mantra is the last resort, not the main form of treatment... Cause our doctors aren't paid by big pharma to sell drugs.. They don't get commission for every pack of meth sold to a child..
We shouldn't look to drugs to make us feel more at home in the world... Maybe instead just don't engage with the crappy parts of the world. Instead do stuff that's worthwhile.
Imagine if your employer saw you at work being bored, then he throws amphetamines at you.... That would be absurd.
The impulsiveness and anger outbursts to laughter is a common symptom too, also he admitted to have scatter brain which is the boomer word for ADHD
Based on this video, I have diagnosed our Billy boy with a case of the butthurts.
oh yeah bill let's all just go fly planes who needs to get an education or hold a job we can all just pick money from the money tree
I honestly love my ADHD
psychiatry is about as trustworthy as chiropractic
He talks a big game on stage and interviews, but these podcasts kinda show his true character, which is he's a real wuss and will crack under pressure. I get he's a comedian but some believe their own BS
How is he a wuss for embracing the positive sides of a speeding brain? Wouldn't a wuss be drawn towards medication to be more like everyone else?
Maybe our definitions of what a wuss is differs. He didn't crack under pressure here, he was given shit advice.
When someone gives an artist the advice to "get sum drugs to be more normal" that's clearly misguided and duuuuuuuuuuuumb. Bill's reply to this goofball is 100% merited, and a lot of people needed to hear it. Find something that gives value to your life rather than work your ass off to fit in with normal people and the society we live in. Society right now is NOT great, so doing drugs to fit in better is probably NOT the best idea. Take that to heart.
You could call Bill a lot of things and possibly be on the money….but being “a real wuss” isn’t one of them.
Lolol
Uno Reverse
So ADHD is only being able to focus on things you give a shit about? Isn’t that sorta normal?
Bill being based again.
H D H D
I love how Bill turned the tables and started to psychoanalyse the psychiatrist?
Just FYI becoming a Psychologist is easy, becoming a Psychiatrist is very hard and requires a medical degree.
Both are incredibly expensive.
Since when Bill has ADHD? What did I miss, when was this discovered?
If you've ever listened to him talk, it's pretty obvious.. This particular podcast its very evident. He's all over the the place ignoring context clues forgetting things he just read.
@@urit.5428 I mean he sounds like he’s been told he has adhd or done some online test. Once you understand you have adhd, you wouldn’t be joking and dismissive like he does. Something doesn’t add up…
@@ok_roman err yeah you would if you were a comedian, especially if you're Bill Burr. Have you ever heard a topic Bill couldn't be joking and dismissive about? Have you heard Bill before? lol
@@kevthepoet that's true, nothing is sacred for him
Its not adhd its add. Dude was lying to bill burr
As a psychologist, I can tell you right now without a doubt that this person is not a psychiatrist. This is a teenager with an interest in psychiatry that started on tik tok.
Yup. He definitely is not one and if he is, he's the worst psychiatrist I've come across and I'm a healthcare provider myself. Bill Burr would not be able to get involved with drums, be a world class comedian or fly a helicopter if he had undiagnosed moderate-severe ADHD. Just because someone doesn't read out loud extremely proficiently doesn't mean anything. Sounds like this psychiatrist got all his information from a quick google search.
Yup. As someone who has had a lot of dealings with psych professionals I agree. No one has ever given me the advice to just do drugs to fit in better.. That's the advice of an ignoramus who thinks that fitting into the fucked up reality we've ended up in is somehow desirable. People who fit in really well with society as it is right now should get the drugs. They're the ones who need it. Society is not in a great place right now. 1/3 of the US is in a fucking cult at this moment... If you have to do drugs to fit into this shit, maybe you're not actually ill at all.. Most work today is limited in scope because we all need to be easily replaced..
If you're doing drugs to make your unbelievably boring job palatable, it's not _you_ that is at fault.. It's the fucking job that SUCKS. Doing drugs to fit that kind of mold is a recipe for midlife suicide.
A common misconception about ADHD is that it's a real thing.
ever took an IQ test?
Everyone has ADHD. Some people just complain about it more and use it as an excuse.
not really. i worked with a few adhd people, it's debilitating. it causes real difficulty and holds people back professionally. It's not normal "being distracted" etc.
It is for me. And my wife. And my son. And my mom. And a bunch of my friends.@@pigup2
@@pigup2Depends on your profession. If you're an accountant, sure. If you're a stand up comedian or any form of artist, heeeeeeeell no.
Problem is that all jobs are simple and boring these days. They're simple and boring so that the employer can swap you out for a rube without much training needed. People who do well in normal jobs these days are out of the ordinary. Most people these days hate their jobs and look at the future negatively because they just see a long life of meaningless labor. That's even worse for people with ADHD or Bipolar or similar.
Didn't use to be this boring. People had a broad set of tasks in their jobs back in the day. Now it's the same over and over and over. If you can do the same over and over and over, you'll do well professionally. That is not something to aspire to though...
HDADHD too 😂