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Very good and ampel reaction, love your frisky style 🙂 in 2009 Tarja released a single with the title "Enough" that is considered to be a reaction on this and other songs by Tuomas related to the breakup. Ego selfish primadonna Dancing in your poisoned cage Thinking that your conscience's clearer If you drink your dreams away Feed your anger to the devil In your self built wishing well Take a swim in muddy waters All the dirt will leave a trail Had enough symphonies of sorrow The beasts of prey a breath away Masterpiece of treachery Build a wall and make me crumble Just because I am in love Don't you cry now look at all the Dolls and toys that you have got Smashed the mirror of perversion With the dagger that you made Mirror, mirror, is there someone Who can make your day today? Had enough symphonies of sorrow The beasts of prey a breath away I've had enough symphonies of sorrow Beasts of prey one breath away Masterpiece of treachery Kept my thoughts buried in a box With each shot I still kept it locked You drew a play written with my blood Went ahead just to feed the lot I've had enough symphonies of sorrow The beasts of prey a breath away I've had enough symphonies of agony Beasts of prey one breath away Masterpiece of treachery If you stil like the Phantom, please do the official version by Nightwish featuring Henk Poort in Amsterdam November 2022
@@nicod1361 That "did they betray Tarja" comment was pointing to the first part of the reaction, the story about Tarja's last show and the open letter, not to TPATP. Thumbnails like these are meant to draw the viewers attention, even yours so to see, grumpy old man 🙂
This is one of the most tragic, yet beautiful pieces of music Nighwish does. The ending always gets me. Such a dark song but ending on hope of the new beginning.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤The reaction to your video is crazy, the time you dedicated to it, the research and the attention to detail make without a doubt the best reaction to Nightwish that I have ever seen and heard in my life, thank you for this incredible video😊
OK , you are now my favourite Nightwish Reaction and Review person ! Your coverage of this song has been the best and most understanding and respectful I've seen and heard and I've watched hundreds of Reviews and Reactions since finding Nightwish seven years ago . I will now finish watching all your Nightwish Reactions and look forward to all the ones you will do in the future . A strong request...Floor Jansen and Henk Poort , Phantom of the Opera at the Bestezangers 2019 .Thanks and Cheers !
The song above anything else in this world Tuomas has written and composed. Along with The Greatest Show on Earth 😊🤘❤ Tuomas, our metal Mozart can write and compose this kind of beautiful music 😊
Toumas at 1:07:12 gets me every time as does Floor, always. 14 months ago a dear friend pestered me in to listening to this masterpiece from Wembley. Eventually I relented having not previously heard of either Nightwish or Floor. My expectations weren't great for a number of reasons, primarily I had preconceived ideas about metal but not really understanding the symphonic element but how wrong was I. I was blown away and have been ever since owing my friend a huge debt of gratitude. Thank you John for the wonderful backstory that fuelled this equally wonderful reaction from you Maggie and to Sammy for sponsoring. Paul 🙏😊👍❤️
a powerful and epic song even for Nightwish. The reasons for the song-you can feel the pain and torment in music and the lyrics-stunning as always as are your comments...
Nightwish is a scenery of my soul!!!!! How beautiful is that!! To me this sounds so poetic. I think this had to happen, Nightwish with Floor Jansen. I am glad i found them together with Floor. They are amazing.
Such a beautiful and deep song. It was one of the first songs that I listened to from Nightwish. I will always love Nightwish from the beginning of Nightwish till the very last song. Amazing reaction Maggie.
We were a band, yet she did not practice with them, travel with them, or talk with them in a year?? Really how can you think that would work long term? Tarja is an amazing singer, with or without Nightwish, the band is amazing with or without Tarja. I believe the break was for the best for both, the band and Tarja.
Keep in mind the guys had ignored her for years. She tried to communicate with them but they didn't listen. They didn't even want to have her in the studio or in the creative process. When in the year 2000 she was attacked on stage by someone in the audience she understandably ran off the stage. She was very frightened, of course. But you know what? The guys didn't care. They went on playing as if nothing had happened. The only person caring for her was Marcelo - whom she had only known for not even a week. Tuomas has never been a close friend of Tarja. He never visited her or invited her to his home.
@@nebucamv5524 I think breaking from each other was a good thing. Tarja is now the main attraction, as she should be. Nightwish is a band, Tarja should of always been on her own, with a back up band, so she is the showcase.
Almost no one, I think, remarks on Tuomas' stunning blend of elements of Stravinsky's Rite of Spring and Karl Orff's Carmina Burana in various sections of this masterpiece composition. It is genius and it is flawless.
Tuomas is a genius, the band is spectacular, and Floor is a vocal Goddess, ...... Full stop. Show me another band and lead vocalist that even come close to this level of art, technicality, and performance and I will gladly admit it, but in my 61 years on this earth I have never witnessed anything like them and I've been a fan for some 4 or 5 years now...... Better late than never!
I agree 100%. I thought I'd heard it all from every musical genre but then 14 months ago I watched and listened to this live masterpiece having not heard of Nightwish or Floor before. I have been blown away eversince. Phenomenal band. The best. Paul 🙏😊👍❤️
Only floor could do the justice this song needs. And yes, Thomas has said they will no longer play this in the nightwish set. Can't really blame him. Mad love for the band checking on him during the song. Even floor, who is an empath, looks to him during the song. She wanted to do the best singing for his most personal song. And I'd say she did .
There's nothing but UA-cam hyped comments about Emppu and Marko checking on Tuomas during the song. We have no idea what they are talking about. It's as if he is made of porcelain. I have never heard anyone in the band talking about special support for Tuomas. That doesn't mean it's not true. We just don't know. If anyone have a source for this please let me know. I don't mind being wrong as long as it is the truth. What is true though is that Tuomas (his own words from an interview) sometimes, not always, asked the sound guys to turn off the vocals in his inears because it brought him back to that emotional state he was in when he wrote it. He has also said that he is way past that and isn't the same person anymore.
My Aunty got me into Nightwish and told me the story before i really started listening to there music. Some of the thing Tarja did as a member of a group were unforgivable. I have NEVER listened to any of her songs and never will. FLOOR will always be Queen to me.
Nonsense. As someone who first followed them as a 13 YO in Finland (2000) and lived end of an era at 18, the blame Tarja thing is wrong and sexist. The band naturally was changing The giys wanted heavier metal sound and less gothic love. Tarja got married and wanted to try other genres. Everyone knew the band was taking a year break and doing their own things while Tuomas wrote. And that album6 would likely be the last for this lineup.They talked abt it in interviews as early as 04. Tuomas wanted a quick one day story and created a massive PR failure. Noone to blame. But handled poorly. This song is Tuomas feelong sorry. Bye Bye Beautiful os the diss. Neither song is now performed. T&T was the heart and soul of NW for 10 yrs. Now Floor fits the newer sound. No need for fans to diss one for the other.
@@gailsiponen7484 bahahshaha did you just pull the sexist card. I'll go 1 step further and say she was a cancer to the band. Lucky for them when Marko gave the it's me or her and all of her shit that went with it they chose wisely and ended up with the Greatest Metal Female singer in history.
Great reaction to a great song. I truly believe that Tuomas wrote this song with Floor's voice in his mind. As far as I recall Floor was a candidate for Tarja's successor but Floor was still committed to After Forever. But when you compare the album version with Anette Olzon as singer with the Wembley 2015 performance, it's so incredibly clear this song was meant to be brought to perfection by Floor's vocal power, range, and precision. One hundred percent.
Another thing about Floor being offered the permanent lead singer for Nightwish, she and Tarja are friends although not really close. However, when she was made that offer, she immediately called Tarja and basically asked if it was alright with Tarja if she became the Nightwish lead singer. Tarja said she didn't really care anything about Nightwish anymore and she had her permission to sing with them. BTW, Floor recently opened a concert for Metallica and slayed it. She got a standing ovation when she walked off. She has quite the belly already pregnant with her second child.
I saw -1:12:32 and thought, Oh No, however this was your finest moment as a reactor....Kudo's Magee Renee, this 79 year old, thoroughly enjoyed your reaction, and of course the song, probably 300th time listening to this....Thank You
I'm glad you cut this into a separate video. I've been a fan of Nightwish since 1998. I never got to see them with Tarja in the band. What people may not consider even to this day is the reason Nightwish released this public letter. When you work with someone who starts to change into a personality that becomes obsessed with the image and and the notoriety, they may want to change the public perception of anyone who disagrees with them... so you tend to be agreeable with them most of the time. I am sure we've all seen this in the media. In order for them to maintain a career and move forward as a band they actually had to release this open letter of her firing so that she could not have the opportunity to taint the situation to the public. Remember, everyone's first impression would be the hardest to change, so they ultimately had to request that she read it the next day so they could prepare. Knowing there would be backlash, they still decided to maintain the truth of what happened while still showing that they respect her as a human being and how difficult it was for them. Imagine being in a successful band with someone who starts to act like this for a couple years, right? You don't think they'll change back any time soon, so you have to make hard decisions. Some of them were allowing her to have her way, but once it becomes so toxic that everyone feels uncomfortable, something has to be done. She became a better person, I think, having been fired. It taught her some humility. She since has used her Nightwish status to carry her solo career, but she has been more candid in communicating with her fans and thanking them for their support. I don't think she was ever unappreciative, but her obsession with always having things perfect took over her sense of reality. Tuomas was attacked from all sides, and had to put the band on hiatus until he was okay to develop new music. I've had something similar happen, but it was on a local level. I lost 2 friends out of the band splitting. It was really hard for me to work though and I can absolutely relate to having to say goodbye to someone I considered a good friend. Anyone who composes music with this much depth and intensity is going to feel severely about this sort of thing. I think we're all very fortunate that Tuomas decided to carry on and put his grief into his music. Dark Passion Play was the most amazing album I heard to date when it was released. I'm happy it's all behind us, because Nightwish found the greatest vocalist for their music in the world in Floor. I don't think any would disagree.
Nightwish's song that I first listened to more than 12 years ago , one thing that came in my mind at that time is EPIC. I'm became Nightwish fans and other symphonic metal bands because of this song. Mantap
Great reaction. Watched a lot of reactors react to this song. This was only the second one i saw with a good background. Chase Carneson did a similar reaction with a good background 3 years ago. A masterpiece written in a dark period in Thuomas live. This shows that the best music is written in emotional times. Btw you got a beautiful voice Maggie. I am not a fan of long reactions but this one flew over like it was half that long. Thanks for this great reaction.
Tarja and Marko are going to have a concert together in july btw. I’m glad that they are getting along better. 😊 Since you read the open letter to Tarja, you might also be interested in her version of the story (in addition to the letter from her ). There is an interview here on youtube. The title is “Tarja Turunen press conf (with subtitles)/ post NW break up”. Always makes me cry to see her cry. This band is so important to me. I listen to them since 1998 and their music helped me through a difficult time. I was really devastated when they fired her but now that they have Floor, I love them again. They are both great singers. ❤ Thank you for your reactions to their music. 😊
Tarja and Marko are performing in the *same show*. They are not having a concert and singing *together*. Separate performances. This is a very common misconception about that concert and I fear many may be disappointed if they go to to the concert to see them perform together.
Letters, letters, smoke signals and homing pidgeons. This is a drama of the highest order. But the result is an emotional Masterpiece, which will end to a cathartic purification 😭😭😭! ⛄❄👍
Masterpiece Music & Story telling 👍😝 keyboard player wrote this when he was in a dark place in his life , he actually dies in this masterpiece song ! Nightwish are the best Symphonic Metal Band On Our Planet By Far 😝 Nightwish Disciple from Australia 🇦🇺🏄♂️🍹
This is the best in-depth reaction I've ever seen for this Epic Masterpiece 👏👍 Thank you for this intelligent reaction 😊 Can You please do a similar reaction to Their other epic THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH ? It's about Evolution & Life on this planet ! It's a Science Lesson In a Song ! It's brilliant & I'm so sure you will luv it & get its meaning better than most reactors! Nightwish Disciple From Australia 🇦🇺🏄♂️🍹
Well... I saw a some kind of a document ( I can't find it anymore) where Tarja stays only with Marcello and end of the show they just leave in bands car and rest of the band stays behind without a transportation! Tuomas is almost crying and rest of the guys is SO angry.
I just started a journey of actually looking into my favorite bands history, lyrics, and song meanings. This has always been one of my favorite songs to listen to for the last 5-10 yrs and never really thought about anything besides it sounds awesome and the music theory to it. You've changed how I'll listen to this song for the better from now on
The reason why Floor and Aurora are my two favorite singers is because they always sound amazing, especially live, but the emotions and the storytelling always come first. It's never about showing off, but rather, how do they best tell the story. Of course, it helps that they're also great, empathetic people.
OMG... this woman is a GIANT with a man's physic with woman body parts and her voice! 1ST time watching because Maggie reacted to it. Maggie I'm a sucker for thick long beautiful hair on woman, your windmill got me... love it! peace
My favorite Marko performance is from the first song in the Imaginareum album which is entirely in finish. I think it is one of the most beautiful performances of his.
Really appreciate the extra time you put in to go and look up the inspiration and story behind the songs you react to. It adds so much, especially with a band like Nightwish and a writer/composer like Tuomas. I've often felt like listening to Nightwish songs without knowing the story is like listening to the songs from a musical without the story inbetween. The songs can still be great, but you're missing out.
Floor has an imaculate sense of judgment with regards to tone, color, style, emotional infliction and emphasis in the songs to best convey a certain feeling in specific sentences and such. Like she becomes the character, entity or emotion. In this case Thuomas, his inner voice and his mother speaking to for him and to him like an extention of. Enhancing the immersion and elevating the song and performance. Truely a god-tier vocalist! And the song is the definition of a masterpiece, an artful masterpiece, a poetic masterpiece.
Well done. The examining of this song within the context of the events that drove it was excellent. In my experience some of the pinnacles of an artist’s life work have resulted from being thrown into the crucible of great emotion and pain. It’s sad that anyone should experience such turmoil and sadness, but speaking selfishly, we have been blessed with great art as a result.
My husband and I were in the army with a man who had been a Nightwish bodyguard. He said that Tarja’s husband had had a bad influence on her, pushing her to go solo and convincing her she was the star and that the band was nothing without her. It was really her husband they wanted away from but in order to do that they had to cut ties with her. He said they were all devastated by it and probably wouldn’t have made the letter open but they were afraid of what her husband would tell the press and wanted to get a jump on it. Hopefully, everyone involved is happy and at peace with it all now. BTW, Stargazer is a great song to hear Floor’s more operatic voice.
Love it. You need to check out the Gampel Open Air Live 2008 concert version with Anette singing this. It's very good too. It was written for Anette's voice too.
I was so impressed with your reaction. I didn’t subscribe with the last Nightwish video you did. Not sure why. Subscribing now. Looking forward to you next visit to the rabbit hole.
A great reaction! To me the final notes from Floor sound like a Mother’s wail for her son. 😢 The other 2 songs related to this “situation”’are Bye, Bye Beautiful (has an “interesting” video (said to be written for Tarja) & Master Passion Greed (no video and will never be played live - and said to be written for Tarja’s husband Marcelo). Watch them in your own time but that will give you an even greater understanding into the depths of emotion the band was feeling at the time.
Great reaction to one of my favorite Nightwish songs! It gets to me every time. Thanks also for taking time to do the work. If you want to see another Nightwish song that captures Tuomas' introspection, check out 'Dead Boy's Poem' from Buenos Aires. Bring tissues if you do. Thanks!
Your voice is amazing! Thank you for taking your experience and talent and using it to show the magnificence of this performance. You're so beautiful too. I cry a lot for several reasons. Beauty makes me cry. To see something so beautiful that it makes you sad because of all the ugliness in this world is the best tears to shed. Sadness with beauty is a powerful emotion that I love to experience.
The band was founded by Tuomas and JUKA, who brought in Emppu, to be basicaly a Blackmore's Night type of band. And THEN they searched for a vocalist. Tuomas remembered Tarja from school, where they did a school band together and asked her. But he didn't see her for two years (he spend in the army) and had no idea she started her clasical training and how much stronger her voice got. So then they started to build their sound around her voice into metal. It's all in their documentary... All that says she wasn't realy that much of a close friend at the begining (he would have known about her vocal studies if she did). Some fans want this to be super sad love triangle but I don't think he loved her, she WAS a friend nontheless and all that still must have hurt like crazy. Also, lets accept Tuomas is super proud of his creation and it's not wrong to be angry when he basicaly made Tarja a superstar and she started to diva out like she didn't need them.
While the open letters were not the best way to deal with things, it does mean that the fans could see why and what the band were feeling, it was a shame that it all happened but keeping it hidden could have been worse for everybody, Tuomas got a lot of hatred for it which I think is unfair especially as it could be seen that the gap between the band and Tarja had grown to a point where there was no easy solution for anybody. I think The Poet is one of the best songs Tuomas has written yet about such a bad time for the band.
It's great to see someone like you understand why this song ! This Masterpiece was written 👏😝👍 Other reactors don't do the research & get the message within a Song & the meaning or the pain of a song ! I think it's fantastic you get an Understanding of this Band & Song 👏👍 I think Floor is the best lead singer Nightwish have had ! & i know some people will stay loyal Tarja & that's fine ! In my opinion Floor is Nightwish ! She gets it & feels it ! I'm a Nightwish fan for past 15 years & Luv this Current group of musicians ! I'm missing Marco & hope one day he joins Nightwish again 🙏 Marco & Floor Singing together complement each other & they are the magic ! Nightwish Disciple From Australia 🇦🇺🏄♂️😝
could you immagine that this song isn't wrote for Floor but for Annet, Floor brought this song to so mucht higher level, she has the voice this song deserved, Thuomas also called Metal Mozart and this masterpiece is just another example why he's called Metal Mozart
All of the song were written before they choose Anette as the new singer so it was not written for her either 😊 the second album they did whit Anette was written whit her voice in mind! But yeah, Floor is amazing ❤ so happy she is in the band
@@93Screamqueen yes, all songs were demoed with Marco doing 100% of the vocals. Some of those can be found on YT. Especially this one is a lot more rough in demo.
There is Another Epic Song that is Equal to To THE POET AND THE PENDULUM , It's Called THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH ( Version With the Fireworks is brilliant ) Nightwish Disciple From Australia 🇦🇺🏄♂️🍹
The fact is Marcello poisoned Tarja's mind with pompous delusions of grandeur and seperated her from her friends and bandmates, all to entrench himself in her life and suckle like a parasite off her fame. He destroyed her life and brainwashed her into believing he was her everything and anything else is immaterial. He is a disgusting human being and she is a fool for falling for his bullshit... yet Nightwish found Floor, and that is the best blessing to have ever happened to the band, and the fans. X
If you want to hear angry Nightwish, "Master Passion Greed", is allegedly about Tarja's husband, and they really weren't happy with him. Never p*ss off a composer with a metal band, an orchestra, and 2 choirs to play with😉
I think..... they were all correct. Ultimately, it came down to priorities. Tuomas & crew felt it necessary to get ahead of possible criticism, & make it all public. They (Tarja, & the rest, ) just disagreed [Dave Mason reaction? /Hint ;)] . Don't think WE can really judge, definitively. Ultimately, it resulted in a beautiful piece of work. :) Still love both Nightwish & Tarja. :)
Tarja was pushed before she jumped anyway. It was the past and the now is as good as ever if not better for everyone. Guy Elliott is the boy soprano at the start. The part "Sparkle my scenery..." was originally sung by another boy soprano but Floor and Tuomas agreed that she could do it for Wembley Arena. For more on the "Tarja thing" watch Nightwish "Bye Bye Beautiful" and listen to "Master Passion Greed" - with this forming the "Tarja trilogy" - more Marko in the latter!
Betray Tarja? No, it was Tarja who betrayed Nightwish with Diva-like behaviour, disloyalty and lack of appreciation for the rest of the band and the fans. Her husband was also a problem, being apparently greedy and selfish on Tarja's behalf. They DID work well together, but it was off the stage that the problems were. Its all in the past now. Tuomas was deeply upset at the time (the video shows him sat alone with his head in his hands before the concert), but has since said he's not that person anymore. Marco and Tarja never hated each other. Incidentally, Marco has appeared with Tarja this year, and on other occasions since the split.
@@luxetveritas9196 OK, so you're a Tarja fan' I understand that really , but Its not about opinions. It happened the way it happened and our opinions or quoted facts won't change that. The End of an Era video speaks for itself. It was 17 years ago, now its over for us and all concerned from Nightwish; time to let it rest. Tuomas, Tarja and the band have all moved on from it.
@@TheRealRedAce sorry, but saying it's a 'fact' that Tarja was a diva is a load of bs. What a joke. Where is your concrete proof of that? What about the behaviour of the guys, including the fact that Tarja was assaulted by a fan on stage and they just carried on playing and did NOTHING to help her - that speaks volumes about them as people. I don't think Tarja was a diva, but by god I wouldn't blame her for becoming one with such caring and kind bandmates as that.
@@luxetveritas9196 I never said it was a fact. But it was. Have you seen the End of an Era tour video? Also there are Tarja's own witnessed statements regarding the band before she was fired. Then there was her treatment of the fans by cancelling several concerts at the last minute without good reason. There was also her refusal to rehearse the songs. As for the onstage assault (which wasn't really an assault, but just an overenthusiastic fan) its likely the band were unaware of it at first. In any case its security's job to deal with that sort of thing - and security DID deal with it.
Tarja didn't actually got fired. Since during 2003 guys founded company to take care band's finances and asked Tarja to be part of it. But she didn't want, so she was freelance singer in band and they just didn't re-sign her after lastest album and tour.
✨✨Before any UA-cam reactor consider to react to this official masterpiece , they should consider to react to THIS reaction instead, so they see and hear every aspect of "The Poet And The Pendulum". ✨✨This is by far the deepest and detailed reaction i ever seen on UA-cam! Great great job Maggie!! - and thanks!✨✨
I think, the real problem was Marcelo and Tarjas letter clearly shows that she is not able to see it, because she loves him and talking about him and what he brought to the band is "crossing the line".
F - ing You Tube 26 adds during this playback . They also wrote there most angry and heavy song about Tarja's husband & manager Marchello "Master Passion Greed" is never been done live and never will be but its very clear in this song how much they hated him . PS Marco sings it
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I'd suggest Marko's own (current) solo work. Try "Pyre of the Black Heart" Album - 2 songs on youtube are "Voice of my Father" and "Stones"
Very good and ampel reaction, love your frisky style 🙂
in 2009 Tarja released a single with the title "Enough" that is considered to be a reaction on this and other songs by Tuomas related to the breakup.
Ego selfish primadonna
Dancing in your poisoned cage
Thinking that your conscience's clearer
If you drink your dreams away
Feed your anger to the devil
In your self built wishing well
Take a swim in muddy waters
All the dirt will leave a trail
Had enough symphonies of sorrow
The beasts of prey a breath away
Masterpiece of treachery
Build a wall and make me crumble
Just because I am in love
Don't you cry now look at all the
Dolls and toys that you have got
Smashed the mirror of perversion
With the dagger that you made
Mirror, mirror, is there someone
Who can make your day today?
Had enough symphonies of sorrow
The beasts of prey a breath away
I've had enough symphonies of sorrow
Beasts of prey one breath away
Masterpiece of treachery
Kept my thoughts buried in a box
With each shot I still kept it locked
You drew a play written with my blood
Went ahead just to feed the lot
I've had enough symphonies of sorrow
The beasts of prey a breath away
I've had enough symphonies of agony
Beasts of prey one breath away
Masterpiece of treachery
If you stil like the Phantom, please do the official version by Nightwish featuring Henk Poort in Amsterdam November 2022
@@nicod1361 That "did they betray Tarja" comment was pointing to the first part of the reaction, the story about Tarja's last show and the open letter, not to TPATP.
Thumbnails like these are meant to draw the viewers attention, even yours so to see, grumpy old man 🙂
Try Aryeon Valley of the Queens orEverybody Dies. ( live)
perhaps range out? 'hobo humpin slobo babe' by whale?
And just remember that this is a song that is not written to Floors vocals but she fits in so well and making it an even more masterpiece
I can't believe I missed your reaction to this until now 😮
This was the best reaction of this song i've ever seen❤❤❤
Thank you so much! 💟💟💟
Yes
My heart always aches when I see Tuomas singing with Marko and Floor in the final verses.
I just hear good song.
Indeed, a somber yet beautiful moment.
Yes me too. When he sings "try to save them all". My heart's crying. 😢
This is one of the most tragic, yet beautiful pieces of music Nighwish does. The ending always gets me. Such a dark song but ending on hope of the new beginning.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤The reaction to your video is crazy, the time you dedicated to it, the research and the attention to detail make without a doubt the best reaction to Nightwish that I have ever seen and heard in my life, thank you for this incredible video😊
OK , you are now my favourite Nightwish Reaction and Review person ! Your coverage of this song has been the best and most understanding and respectful I've seen and heard and I've watched hundreds of Reviews and Reactions since finding Nightwish seven years ago . I will now finish watching all your Nightwish Reactions and look forward to all the ones you will do in the future . A strong request...Floor Jansen and Henk Poort , Phantom of the Opera at the Bestezangers 2019 .Thanks and Cheers !
Thank you for your lovely comment and welcome to my channel! 🤘😁🤘
The song above anything else in this world Tuomas has written and composed. Along with The Greatest Show on Earth 😊🤘❤ Tuomas, our metal Mozart can write and compose this kind of beautiful music 😊
The “3 minutes and counting” gets me every time. The fact that he timed the song so include his musical unaliving at the 3 minute mark is poetic
This song is a masterpiece. Period.
This song is incredible. You can see the emotion on all of their faces.
The best deep dive and breakdown of this piece I have ever seen truly I am amazed, Great job by you..❤
Toumas at 1:07:12 gets me every time as does Floor, always. 14 months ago a dear friend pestered me in to listening to this masterpiece from Wembley. Eventually I relented having not previously heard of either Nightwish or Floor. My expectations weren't great for a number of reasons, primarily I had preconceived ideas about metal but not really understanding the symphonic element but how wrong was I. I was blown away and have been ever since owing my friend a huge debt of gratitude. Thank you John for the wonderful backstory that fuelled this equally wonderful reaction from you Maggie and to Sammy for sponsoring. Paul 🙏😊👍❤️
Everyone should have a friend like John. No, actually everyone should be a friend like John. Thanks John.
This waS a great reaction, love the detail and the history that was included. JJ did a great job with that! Awesome job Maggie!
a powerful and epic song even for Nightwish. The reasons for the song-you can feel the pain and torment in music and the lyrics-stunning as always as are your comments...
That reaction was a amazing Maggie. Mad respect to you❤
Nightwish is a scenery of my soul!!!!! How beautiful is that!! To me this sounds so poetic. I think this had to happen, Nightwish with Floor Jansen. I am glad i found them together with Floor. They are amazing.
Magnificent voice! And Floor was phenomenal as well.❤
Such a beautiful and deep song. It was one of the first songs that I listened to from Nightwish. I will always love Nightwish from the beginning of Nightwish till the very last song. Amazing reaction Maggie.
Thank you so much! I APPRECIATE YOU!! 🤗🙏🥳💟
We were a band, yet she did not practice with them, travel with them, or talk with them in a year?? Really how can you think that would work long term? Tarja is an amazing singer, with or without Nightwish, the band is amazing with or without Tarja. I believe the break was for the best for both, the band and Tarja.
Keep in mind the guys had ignored her for years. She tried to communicate with them but they didn't listen. They didn't even want to have her in the studio or in the creative process. When in the year 2000 she was attacked on stage by someone in the audience she understandably ran off the stage. She was very frightened, of course. But you know what? The guys didn't care. They went on playing as if nothing had happened. The only person caring for her was Marcelo - whom she had only known for not even a week.
Tuomas has never been a close friend of Tarja. He never visited her or invited her to his home.
@@nebucamv5524 I think breaking from each other was a good thing. Tarja is now the main attraction, as she should be. Nightwish is a band, Tarja should of always been on her own, with a back up band, so she is the showcase.
one of the greatest pieces of music ever written.
Greatest written and performed...
Great reaction to this incredible song 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
This has been my favorite reactions for ages. Don’t see that changing any time soon.
This masterpiece is so so deep!
Almost no one, I think, remarks on Tuomas' stunning blend of elements of Stravinsky's Rite of Spring and Karl Orff's Carmina Burana in various sections of this masterpiece composition. It is genius and it is flawless.
They stand near him to show their support...
Tuomas is a genius, the band is spectacular, and Floor is a vocal Goddess, ...... Full stop. Show me another band and lead vocalist that even come close to this level of art, technicality, and performance and I will gladly admit it, but in my 61 years on this earth I have never witnessed anything like them and I've been a fan for some 4 or 5 years now...... Better late than never!
I agree 100%. I thought I'd heard it all from every musical genre but then 14 months ago I watched and listened to this live masterpiece having not heard of Nightwish or Floor before. I have been blown away eversince. Phenomenal band. The best. Paul 🙏😊👍❤️
Only floor could do the justice this song needs. And yes, Thomas has said they will no longer play this in the nightwish set. Can't really blame him. Mad love for the band checking on him during the song. Even floor, who is an empath, looks to him during the song. She wanted to do the best singing for his most personal song. And I'd say she did .
There's nothing but UA-cam hyped comments about Emppu and Marko checking on Tuomas during the song. We have no idea what they are talking about. It's as if he is made of porcelain. I have never heard anyone in the band talking about special support for Tuomas. That doesn't mean it's not true. We just don't know. If anyone have a source for this please let me know. I don't mind being wrong as long as it is the truth. What is true though is that Tuomas (his own words from an interview) sometimes, not always, asked the sound guys to turn off the vocals in his inears because it brought him back to that emotional state he was in when he wrote it. He has also said that he is way past that and isn't the same person anymore.
My Aunty got me into Nightwish and told me the story before i really started listening to there music. Some of the thing Tarja did as a member of a group were unforgivable. I have NEVER listened to any of her songs and never will. FLOOR will always be Queen to me.
Nonsense. As someone who first followed them as a 13 YO in Finland (2000) and lived end of an era at 18, the blame Tarja thing is wrong and sexist. The band naturally was changing The giys wanted heavier metal sound and less gothic love. Tarja got married and wanted to try other genres. Everyone knew the band was taking a year break and doing their own things while Tuomas wrote. And that album6 would likely be the last for this lineup.They talked abt it in interviews as early as 04. Tuomas wanted a quick one day story and created a massive PR failure. Noone to blame. But handled poorly. This song is Tuomas feelong sorry. Bye Bye Beautiful os the diss. Neither song is now performed. T&T was the heart and soul of NW for 10 yrs. Now Floor fits the newer sound. No need for fans to diss one for the other.
@@gailsiponen7484 bahahshaha did you just pull the sexist card. I'll go 1 step further and say she was a cancer to the band. Lucky for them when Marko gave the it's me or her and all of her shit that went with it they chose wisely and ended up with the Greatest Metal Female singer in history.
Marko is a GREAT singer as well.
Great reaction to a great song. I truly believe that Tuomas wrote this song with Floor's voice in his mind. As far as I recall Floor was a candidate for Tarja's successor but Floor was still committed to After Forever. But when you compare the album version with Anette Olzon as singer with the Wembley 2015 performance, it's so incredibly clear this song was meant to be brought to perfection by Floor's vocal power, range, and precision. One hundred percent.
Yes they did!
Another thing about Floor being offered the permanent lead singer for Nightwish, she and Tarja are friends although not really close. However, when she was made that offer, she immediately called Tarja and basically asked if it was alright with Tarja if she became the Nightwish lead singer. Tarja said she didn't really care anything about Nightwish anymore and she had her permission to sing with them. BTW, Floor recently opened a concert for Metallica and slayed it. She got a standing ovation when she walked off. She has quite the belly already pregnant with her second child.
I saw -1:12:32 and thought, Oh No, however this was your finest moment as a reactor....Kudo's Magee Renee, this 79 year old, thoroughly enjoyed your reaction, and of course the song, probably 300th time listening to this....Thank You
I'm glad you cut this into a separate video.
I've been a fan of Nightwish since 1998. I never got to see them with Tarja in the band.
What people may not consider even to this day is the reason Nightwish released this public letter. When you work with someone who starts to change into a personality that becomes obsessed with the image and and the notoriety, they may want to change the public perception of anyone who disagrees with them... so you tend to be agreeable with them most of the time. I am sure we've all seen this in the media. In order for them to maintain a career and move forward as a band they actually had to release this open letter of her firing so that she could not have the opportunity to taint the situation to the public. Remember, everyone's first impression would be the hardest to change, so they ultimately had to request that she read it the next day so they could prepare.
Knowing there would be backlash, they still decided to maintain the truth of what happened while still showing that they respect her as a human being and how difficult it was for them.
Imagine being in a successful band with someone who starts to act like this for a couple years, right? You don't think they'll change back any time soon, so you have to make hard decisions. Some of them were allowing her to have her way, but once it becomes so toxic that everyone feels uncomfortable, something has to be done.
She became a better person, I think, having been fired. It taught her some humility. She since has used her Nightwish status to carry her solo career, but she has been more candid in communicating with her fans and thanking them for their support. I don't think she was ever unappreciative, but her obsession with always having things perfect took over her sense of reality.
Tuomas was attacked from all sides, and had to put the band on hiatus until he was okay to develop new music. I've had something similar happen, but it was on a local level. I lost 2 friends out of the band splitting. It was really hard for me to work though and I can absolutely relate to having to say goodbye to someone I considered a good friend. Anyone who composes music with this much depth and intensity is going to feel severely about this sort of thing.
I think we're all very fortunate that Tuomas decided to carry on and put his grief into his music. Dark Passion Play was the most amazing album I heard to date when it was released.
I'm happy it's all behind us, because Nightwish found the greatest vocalist for their music in the world in Floor. I don't think any would disagree.
Inderdaad,this was the best reaction ever for this song,thank you,greetings from the netherlands
Nightwish's song that I first listened to more than 12 years ago , one thing that came in my mind at that time is EPIC. I'm became Nightwish fans and other symphonic metal bands because of this song.
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Great reaction. Watched a lot of reactors react to this song. This was only the second one i saw with a good background. Chase Carneson did a similar reaction with a good background 3 years ago. A masterpiece written in a dark period in Thuomas live. This shows that the best music is written in emotional times. Btw you got a beautiful voice Maggie. I am not a fan of long reactions but this one flew over like it was half that long. Thanks for this great reaction.
Tarja and Marko are going to have a concert together in july btw. I’m glad that they are getting along better. 😊 Since you read the open letter to Tarja, you might also be interested in her version of the story (in addition to the letter from her ). There is an interview here on youtube. The title is “Tarja Turunen press conf (with subtitles)/ post NW break up”. Always makes me cry to see her cry. This band is so important to me. I listen to them since 1998 and their music helped me through a difficult time. I was really devastated when they fired her but now that they have Floor, I love them again. They are both great singers. ❤ Thank you for your reactions to their music. 😊
Tarja and Marko are performing in the *same show*. They are not having a concert and singing *together*. Separate performances. This is a very common misconception about that concert and I fear many may be disappointed if they go to to the concert to see them perform together.
This was honestly one of the best gigs i've ever been to
So many times i literally had the hairs on the back of neck stand on end
if you watch the "end of an era concert" you can see what the band was feeling, especially Jukka and Tuomas. They wore their feelings on their faces
Letters, letters, smoke signals and homing pidgeons. This is a drama of the highest order. But the result is an emotional Masterpiece, which will end to a cathartic purification 😭😭😭! ⛄❄👍
That last part with Floor singing. My interpretation is a childs inconsolable crying. Keep the reactions coming.
Most bands have a songwriter.
NIGHTWISH has a COMPOSER!
Such a beautiful way to express death: the 3.5 heart beats...
Masterpiece Music & Story telling 👍😝 keyboard player wrote this when he was in a dark place in his life , he actually dies in this masterpiece song ! Nightwish are the best Symphonic Metal Band On Our Planet By Far 😝 Nightwish Disciple from Australia 🇦🇺🏄♂️🍹
Nice that You did this backround investigsion
This is the best in-depth reaction I've ever seen for this Epic Masterpiece 👏👍 Thank you for this intelligent reaction 😊 Can You please do a similar reaction to Their other epic THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH ? It's about Evolution & Life on this planet ! It's a Science Lesson In a Song ! It's brilliant & I'm so sure you will luv it & get its meaning better than most reactors! Nightwish Disciple From Australia 🇦🇺🏄♂️🍹
Well... I saw a some kind of a document ( I can't find it anymore) where Tarja stays only with Marcello and end of the show they just leave in bands car and rest of the band stays behind without a transportation!
Tuomas is almost crying and rest of the guys is SO angry.
I just started a journey of actually looking into my favorite bands history, lyrics, and song meanings. This has always been one of my favorite songs to listen to for the last 5-10 yrs and never really thought about anything besides it sounds awesome and the music theory to it.
You've changed how I'll listen to this song for the better from now on
The reason why Floor and Aurora are my two favorite singers is because they always sound amazing, especially live, but the emotions and the storytelling always come first. It's never about showing off, but rather, how do they best tell the story. Of course, it helps that they're also great, empathetic people.
OMG... this woman is a GIANT with a man's physic with woman body parts and her voice! 1ST time watching because Maggie reacted to it.
Maggie I'm a sucker for thick long beautiful hair on woman, your windmill got me... love it!
peace
Thank you! Hope to see you on tonight's livestream! 🥳
Floor is and will always be THE female voice for Nightwish for me
Great reaction... Good research.... then you understand the real meaning of this masterpiece! 😢
My favorite Marko performance is from the first song in the Imaginareum album which is entirely in finish. I think it is one of the most beautiful performances of his.
Thank you Maggie , beautiful reaction , Greetings from nwAse Sweden
Really appreciate the extra time you put in to go and look up the inspiration and story behind the songs you react to. It adds so much, especially with a band like Nightwish and a writer/composer like Tuomas.
I've often felt like listening to Nightwish songs without knowing the story is like listening to the songs from a musical without the story inbetween. The songs can still be great, but you're missing out.
Lost a buddy during an deployment and for some reason this song hits me extra in the guts during the mother part.
One of my cats was really interested in you demonstrating the difference between classical and operatic!
Floor has an imaculate sense of judgment with regards to tone, color, style, emotional infliction and emphasis in the songs to best convey a certain feeling in specific sentences and such.
Like she becomes the character, entity or emotion. In this case Thuomas, his inner voice and his mother speaking to for him and to him like an extention of. Enhancing the immersion and elevating the song and performance. Truely a god-tier vocalist! And the song is the definition of a masterpiece, an artful masterpiece, a poetic masterpiece.
Well done. The examining of this song within the context of the events that drove it was excellent. In my experience some of the pinnacles of an artist’s life work have resulted from being thrown into the crucible of great emotion and pain. It’s sad that anyone should experience such turmoil and sadness, but speaking selfishly, we have been blessed with great art as a result.
Love your reactions, love Nightwish! Win-Win!
Thanks so much! 🤘😊🤘
Great reaction, thank you
My husband and I were in the army with a man who had been a Nightwish bodyguard. He said that Tarja’s husband had had a bad influence on her, pushing her to go solo and convincing her she was the star and that the band was nothing without her. It was really her husband they wanted away from but in order to do that they had to cut ties with her. He said they were all devastated by it and probably wouldn’t have made the letter open but they were afraid of what her husband would tell the press and wanted to get a jump on it. Hopefully, everyone involved is happy and at peace with it all now.
BTW, Stargazer is a great song to hear Floor’s more operatic voice.
Floor is pure magic... The great queen of the Valkyries...
Check out "While Your Lips Are Still Red" from the same concert for more Marko
Love it. You need to check out the Gampel Open Air Live 2008 concert version with Anette singing this. It's very good too. It was written for Anette's voice too.
I was so impressed with your reaction. I didn’t subscribe with the last Nightwish video you did. Not sure why. Subscribing now. Looking forward to you next visit to the rabbit hole.
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A great reaction!
To me the final notes from Floor sound like a Mother’s wail for her son. 😢
The other 2 songs related to this “situation”’are Bye, Bye Beautiful (has an “interesting” video (said to be written for Tarja) & Master Passion Greed (no video and will never be played live - and said to be written for Tarja’s husband Marcelo).
Watch them in your own time but that will give you an even greater understanding into the depths of emotion the band was feeling at the time.
Great reaction to one of my favorite Nightwish songs! It gets to me every time. Thanks also for taking time to do the work. If you want to see another Nightwish song that captures Tuomas' introspection, check out 'Dead Boy's Poem' from Buenos Aires. Bring tissues if you do. Thanks!
Your voice is amazing! Thank you for taking your experience and talent and using it to show the magnificence of this performance. You're so beautiful too. I cry a lot for several reasons. Beauty makes me cry. To see something so beautiful that it makes you sad because of all the ugliness in this world is the best tears to shed. Sadness with beauty is a powerful emotion that I love to experience.
Thank you for your lovely comment and welcome to my channel. Hope to see you on our Mondays live stream. 😊❤️
@@maggiereneemusic I am always working but I would love to watch a recording if available. Thanks again for just being you. Much love! ❤️
The band was founded by Tuomas and JUKA, who brought in Emppu, to be basicaly a Blackmore's Night type of band. And THEN they searched for a vocalist. Tuomas remembered Tarja from school, where they did a school band together and asked her. But he didn't see her for two years (he spend in the army) and had no idea she started her clasical training and how much stronger her voice got. So then they started to build their sound around her voice into metal. It's all in their documentary... All that says she wasn't realy that much of a close friend at the begining (he would have known about her vocal studies if she did). Some fans want this to be super sad love triangle but I don't think he loved her, she WAS a friend nontheless and all that still must have hurt like crazy. Also, lets accept Tuomas is super proud of his creation and it's not wrong to be angry when he basicaly made Tarja a superstar and she started to diva out like she didn't need them.
While the open letters were not the best way to deal with things, it does mean that the fans could see why and what the band were feeling, it was a shame that it all happened but keeping it hidden could have been worse for everybody, Tuomas got a lot of hatred for it which I think is unfair especially as it could be seen that the gap between the band and Tarja had grown to a point where there was no easy solution for anybody.
I think The Poet is one of the best songs Tuomas has written yet about such a bad time for the band.
Of course she’s perfect, she is the goddess of song!🎸🤘
It's great to see someone like you understand why this song ! This Masterpiece was written 👏😝👍 Other reactors don't do the research & get the message within a Song & the meaning or the pain of a song ! I think it's fantastic you get an Understanding of this Band & Song 👏👍 I think Floor is the best lead singer Nightwish have had ! & i know some people will stay loyal Tarja & that's fine ! In my opinion Floor is Nightwish ! She gets it & feels it ! I'm a Nightwish fan for past 15 years & Luv this Current group of musicians ! I'm missing Marco & hope one day he joins Nightwish again 🙏 Marco & Floor Singing together complement each other & they are the magic ! Nightwish Disciple From Australia 🇦🇺🏄♂️😝
Thank you !
could you immagine that this song isn't wrote for Floor but for Annet, Floor brought this song to so mucht higher level, she has the voice this song deserved, Thuomas also called Metal Mozart and this masterpiece is just another example why he's called Metal Mozart
All of the song were written before they choose Anette as the new singer so it was not written for her either 😊 the second album they did whit Anette was written whit her voice in mind! But yeah, Floor is amazing ❤ so happy she is in the band
*all of the song on dark passion play
@@93Screamqueen yes, all songs were demoed with Marco doing 100% of the vocals. Some of those can be found on YT. Especially this one is a lot more rough in demo.
@@tubelious yeah you can find some songs on the dark passion play delux version also 😊
magnifique réaction
Beautiful reaction,Maggie😊❤️🎶👍🏴
Thank you
My pleasure. 😊
There is Another Epic Song that is Equal to To THE POET AND THE PENDULUM , It's Called THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH ( Version With the Fireworks is brilliant ) Nightwish Disciple From Australia 🇦🇺🏄♂️🍹
F.A.N.T.A.S.T.I.C. Reaction thank You so much
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High Hopes, Floyd cover is amazing!!
The fact is Marcello poisoned Tarja's mind with pompous delusions of grandeur and seperated her from her friends and bandmates, all to entrench himself in her life and suckle like a parasite off her fame. He destroyed her life and brainwashed her into believing he was her everything and anything else is immaterial. He is a disgusting human being and she is a fool for falling for his bullshit... yet Nightwish found Floor, and that is the best blessing to have ever happened to the band, and the fans. X
If you want to hear angry Nightwish, "Master Passion Greed", is allegedly about Tarja's husband, and they really weren't happy with him. Never p*ss off a composer with a metal band, an orchestra, and 2 choirs to play with😉
I think..... they were all correct. Ultimately, it came down to priorities.
Tuomas & crew felt it necessary to get ahead of possible criticism, & make it all public.
They (Tarja, & the rest, ) just disagreed [Dave Mason reaction? /Hint ;)] .
Don't think WE can really judge, definitively.
Ultimately, it resulted in a beautiful piece of work. :) Still love both Nightwish & Tarja. :)
He loved her
My 2nd favorite windmills next to the Valkyrie Goddess
крутая мельница) было весело и познавательно. Спасибо за обзор.
Tarja was pushed before she jumped anyway. It was the past and the now is as good as ever if not better for everyone. Guy Elliott is the boy soprano at the start. The part "Sparkle my scenery..." was originally sung by another boy soprano but Floor and Tuomas agreed that she could do it for Wembley Arena. For more on the "Tarja thing" watch Nightwish "Bye Bye Beautiful" and listen to "Master Passion Greed" - with this forming the "Tarja trilogy" - more Marko in the latter!
That windmill!!!! 🤘🏽😆🤘🏽
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Betray Tarja? No, it was Tarja who betrayed Nightwish with Diva-like behaviour, disloyalty and lack of appreciation for the rest of the band and the fans. Her husband was also a problem, being apparently greedy and selfish on Tarja's behalf. They DID work well together, but it was off the stage that the problems were. Its all in the past now. Tuomas was deeply upset at the time (the video shows him sat alone with his head in his hands before the concert), but has since said he's not that person anymore. Marco and Tarja never hated each other. Incidentally, Marco has appeared with Tarja this year, and on other occasions since the split.
LMFAO open your eyes
@@luxetveritas9196 OK, so you're a Tarja fan' I understand that really , but Its not about opinions. It happened the way it happened and our opinions or quoted facts won't change that. The End of an Era video speaks for itself. It was 17 years ago, now its over for us and all concerned from Nightwish; time to let it rest. Tuomas, Tarja and the band have all moved on from it.
@@TheRealRedAce sorry, but saying it's a 'fact' that Tarja was a diva is a load of bs. What a joke. Where is your concrete proof of that? What about the behaviour of the guys, including the fact that Tarja was assaulted by a fan on stage and they just carried on playing and did NOTHING to help her - that speaks volumes about them as people. I don't think Tarja was a diva, but by god I wouldn't blame her for becoming one with such caring and kind bandmates as that.
@@luxetveritas9196 I never said it was a fact. But it was. Have you seen the End of an Era tour video? Also there are Tarja's own witnessed statements regarding the band before she was fired. Then there was her treatment of the fans by cancelling several concerts at the last minute without good reason. There was also her refusal to rehearse the songs. As for the onstage assault (which wasn't really an assault, but just an overenthusiastic fan) its likely the band were unaware of it at first. In any case its security's job to deal with that sort of thing - and security DID deal with it.
Let's be real. Tarja and Tuomas were having an affair and when their intimate relationship ended, their working relationship died with it.
Tarja didn't actually got fired. Since during 2003 guys founded company to take care band's finances and asked Tarja to be part of it. But she didn't want, so she was freelance singer in band and they just didn't re-sign her after lastest album and tour.
They made it public because the fans needed to understand why Tarja had been fired.
✨✨Before any UA-cam reactor consider to react to this official masterpiece , they should consider to react to THIS reaction instead, so they see and hear every aspect of "The Poet And The Pendulum". ✨✨This is by far the deepest and detailed reaction i ever seen on UA-cam! Great great job Maggie!! - and thanks!✨✨
I think, the real problem was Marcelo and Tarjas letter clearly shows that she is not able to see it, because she loves him and talking about him and what he brought to the band is "crossing the line".
F - ing You Tube 26 adds during this playback . They also wrote there most angry and heavy song about Tarja's husband & manager Marchello "Master Passion Greed" is never been done live and never will be but its very clear in this song how much they hated him . PS Marco sings it
With the passing of Gordon Lightfoot, The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald would be a memorable tribute to such a great artist.
Enjoyed this!! Awesome!