you should be in business (if you’re not already)… bows that are hand made are expensive…. i definitely think you would get customers… all of your builds are of great quality…. i’m not gifted at practical things ….but I always admire great workmanship …. well done friend!!
@@Helmbowman simple... just use a known platform [eBay or Amazon] a short video and a few photos of the product will do... don't forget to mention the channel for customers who want to learn more... maybe even taking orders will be a good idea...
@@Helmbowman just a very short vid. Still needs cleaning up and painting and all that. So happy with it. Shoots super accurate.doesn't stack at all at 32 inches
Impressive! 50 Lb draw, I must say I was surprised. It's a perfect bow for surviving in the outdoors. I hunt with modern compound bows, from mathews, hoyt, pse, and the latest bowtech. But I mostly I shoot mathews. That being said, there's nothing like going back to shooting a stick. Every now and then, I pick up my 63 Lb recurve just to see the flight of the arrow. It's a beautiful thing.
Excellent. Ive been thinking about this myself for a while (back pack bow) I know there are a few available on the usual sites but im more interested in making my own , currently stalking the forests for material.
I'm surprised it ends up being only 50lbs with that short bending section and 6mm efg. Props to you for another excellent build i have used several of your techniques after following your channel. Keep up the good work 👍🏻
Thanks a lot! This piece was 4mm thick, just the piece that goes into socket is reinforced and its 6 mm thick… Im glad you used some of my techniques! Good luck!
@@Helmbowman aha 4mm it looked thicker in the video. I just finished a 4mm bending bow with a strip of 3mm cut and fitted 90 degrees to the bend to make the shiya then cut and glued wood to the sides of that and wrapped with fishing line to keep together. Pretty happy with the result. About 40 lbs at full draw 31/32 inches. I use thumb draw.
@@Helmbowman yes indeed I started building my own bows because the ones I can get here in Indonesia all have to short draw length. Have been experimenting for a while now with fiberglass. Haven't yet tried to make a laminated bow. Maybe sometime in the future. The good thing about living here there are lots of bow makers so pretty good access to bow making materials.
@@jarchdm would you tell me detailed information of this bow? What is the limb's length? What the length of the shiya? What is the width of the fiberglass? Did you taper them? ... . Thank you.
To be fair plastic bows are much better than wooden bows since they're already windproof and waterproof wich is actually a very big deal if ur planning on making a long lasting bow a wooden bow will never outlive a plastic one simply because it needs to be oiled constantly and if u don't oil it properly cracks will form or the bow might eventually lose its flexibility overtime meanwhile a plastic one is not only much lighter but can also reach the same amount of pounds per draw as a wooden recurve bow although thought to for kids and weak plastic bows are literally the best bows out there however for survival?You don't really need to waste space and keep a bow in ur backpack if u plan on going out there in the woods you should Carry a solid knife a hatchet or tomahawk but I prefer hatchets cuz they're more solid you also need a sort of wood working saw or u can buy a folding saw wich works just as well and doesn't take much space in ur backpack if u have there 3 tools u can pretty much build a bow extremely quickly how?Grab a bunch of straight sticks from bushes cut with ur knife or hatchet all the branches off of them until ur left with bunch of sticks bundle them up together tie them with paracord and than try making some notches for adding a bow string this method to make a bow in the wild is extremely quick and the best part is u can make a bow far stronger than traditional bows with bunch of sticks simply by adding more sticks to the bow bundle u can increase or decrease the poundage of the bow and the strength if a stick breaks or becomes a liability u can easily replace it with another one and that is extremely easy to do I think adding a portable to ur backpack is sort of unnecessary if u can make one in less than an hour
@Dav624 I agree with everything you said, bundle bow in my opinion is best bow for survival, its not as efficient and accurate as well build bow, but good enough for survival
@@Helmbowman a bow is as accurate as the user but u can say it's not as long lasting as a traditional bow or modern bow but as far as strength and accuracy? as accurate as the user and as strong as how many sticks u put in the bundle
A late Apache (N'De) friend was a Marine Corps sniper seconded to the CIA 500 man covert army in South Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos with 163 missions. He designed and built a collapsible bow for his missions along with his Master Gunsmith made rifle, and a Brazilian tapered blade machete. He also drilled out his bullets to pack fulminate of mercury in them. The real stuff never makes it to the movies.
Gday Dude. Thx for the vid. Been thinking of making a break down bow. I was thinking pvc pipe and a heat gun. I must admit though i am quite capable of doing everything you did to make this. I am now leaning toward a bit more effort for a better looking and probably longer lasting option.
Very nice creation! Wish you had felted arrow rest and rabbit fur your string for quieter shot. Really nice none the less! Perhaps you can start selling these for other people?! Should consider that thought o. A more serious level! $$
I am curious of the draw weight. I wonder if you could use something like an old pair of ski to make the arms. I don't have power equipment but you could shapre a lot of that riser with a simple coping saw.
Wonderful design man. From a Bowyers perspective you should redo this project. Not for any direct mistake. But for a refinement. Take your current model. Place it on a tiller rack, and measure out your full draw. THEN, measure your string angle where the string contacts the sayah. At full draw for max efficiency it should be 60 degrees. Then make the angular correction adding or subtracting(from the video I'm going to say adding) degrees to the mount angle of your sayahs to the limb body, so the next bow has a 60° angle at full draw. I did like how you blended western and eastern bow designs. Nice touch. However on a logistic level of two measured archers of equal years of practice. One from the east and one from the west. The archer from the east, nocking on the outside of the bow will knock and draw faster, as well as be able to utilize the additional skill of khatra(one of, or a combination of 3 movements with the bow upon the moment of release). A skill not available to archers who knock to the inside of the bow. A skilled archer with khatra can an arrow absent of the archers paradox, as well as a wider range of arrow weights and sizes that a western bow with a center cutout arrow rest can never achieve. Perhaps could attempt it though never to the degree of eastern bow. In short the western archer blames his bow and arrow for not just letting him shoot a straight arrow. The bow was in the way, that's y the arrow miss. So they made the bow larger so they can cut a hole in it. When the eastern archer just learned to move the bow out of the way..
Thanks a lot for comment! You wrote many interesting and useful stuff, i agree with everything… This bow was indeed experiment, next one will be much more refined.
NICE!...that's the kind of build I'm thinking about for my next bow... a take down recurve, I already bought the fiberglass limbs [for a 40 lib bow] mine are black, 6X30 mm, and 56 cm long [different than yours] and I bought a set of wooden [ash] riser and siyahs, and an extra riser made of nylon, and inside steel frame , thinking of using bolts to hold the limbs to the riser... I could trust the steel frame better than wood... my risers are slim, traditional... that's the kind of bows I'm shooting [I have some experience on making and using self-bows, straight long and short so far...] this time I go for a take down, short recurve bow... so any tips according to the dimensions of my limbs that I provided are welcome... I don't care much of the draw weight , this time I go for speed...
@@Helmbowman thanks!... as I said my limbs are 6X30 mm, and from what I see yours are 4X50 mm [maybe?] so how much of the length should I use? [not counting the parts that are ''fixed''... just the part that bends...] also I'm thinking about removing some material toward the tip of the limbs [1-2mm] for the flex... how's that sound?...
@user-McGiver Usually i also use 6X30mm, this was a leftover piece from another project. Yes you can taper a limbs little bit in thickness and in width toward siyahs, what length you will go for?
Thanks brother! I used epoxy and CA glue, but i doesn’t glue wood to metal in this video, just wood to fiberglass, if you want to glue metal to wood you should use epoxy, just sand metal with 40 grit sandpaper, a scratch it with hacksaw blade so the epoxy can adhere well to it.
Great! 👏👏👏in my opinion the best would be a version of the Decathlon bow that can be split in half into 2 pieces, with recurves and a total length of 100 cm, possibly 45 lbs....👍👍
for the junction it is possible to use hydraulic fittings (steel pipe Ø 3/4" stub and Steel pipe Ø 1" Stub) They fit together well... they should be cut at an angle so that they don't turn at the joint..@@Helmbowman
This is really the bow I love. I am trying to make a similar one. I would like to know more detailed information about this bow. Would you tell me: 1) what is the width of fiberglass? 2) what is the thickness of ash board？ 3) what is the thickness of that woven fiberglass used for tenon? 4) Mortise is made of wood. Will the joints become loose after using it for a while? 5) What material did you add into epoxy to make it black? Your help will be deeply appreciated.
Hi, width of fiberglass is 33mm, thickness of ash board for siyahs is 20mm, woven fiberglass is 1mm thick, but its not necessary to put anything on tenon, i just put it for extra security… Wood joint will not get loose if its tight fit, if tenon have room to move inside mortise than it could get looser over time, just be sure to wrap joint with fiberglass or carbon, because that is what holding it together. For epoxy i use pigment paste made for epoxy dyeing. If you have more questions feel free to ask 😀
Its glass strands impregnated with epoxy or some other resin, very flexible and strong material… Usually i buy it from aliexpress, just type fiberglass for bow limbs
Hi brother, I forgot to ask a question before. Would you tell me what is the Max draw length of this bow? I am trying to make a bow similar to this one, but this bow's limbs looks too short to my draw length. Thank you.
Hi bro, it starts to stack after 28inches, if you want to draw past that i recommend that you put more aggressive recurves, cause this ones are really shallow
you should be in business (if you’re not already)… bows that are hand made are expensive…. i definitely think you would get customers… all of your builds are of great quality…. i’m not gifted at practical things ….but I always admire great workmanship …. well done friend!!
Thanks for such kind words! I will consider that option. God bless!
@@Helmbowman simple... just use a known platform [eBay or Amazon] a short video and a few photos of the product will do... don't forget to mention the channel for customers who want to learn more... maybe even taking orders will be a good idea...
wise comment 😊
So glad I watched this video again before I started making the attachment places for my limbs. !!!
Im glad that this video helps you! Good luck! 💪🏻😁
@@Helmbowman just finished gluing the holder section to the riser. Looks good so far.excited to see tomorrow if I got it right.
@jarchdm Nice! You getting there! 😄
@@Helmbowman just a very short vid. Still needs cleaning up and painting and all that. So happy with it. Shoots super accurate.doesn't stack at all at 32 inches
@@Helmbowman going am away for a few days but when I get back will try to make a real video
Man what a sweet little bow!
Thanks a lot! Im glad you like it!
Beautiful bows. Amazing skills. You are an artist.
Thanks a lot! 🙏
EXCELLENT! You need to make one of these 38 inches long! That would be awesome!
Good idea! Thanks!
Awesome works my brother 👏👏👏
Thanks a lot bro! 😀
Impressive! 50 Lb draw, I must say I was surprised. It's a perfect bow for surviving in the outdoors. I hunt with modern compound bows, from mathews, hoyt, pse, and the latest bowtech. But I mostly I shoot mathews. That being said, there's nothing like going back to shooting a stick. Every now and then, I pick up my 63 Lb recurve just to see the flight of the arrow. It's a beautiful thing.
Fantastic...well made we'll done👍
Thanks a lot!
I made some long bows, but never a recurve, nice work.
My favorite bow is my Bear Kodiak Magnum 50lb @ 48 inches w/ a 30 inch draw.
Thanks a lot! Bear kodiak magnum in my opinion is one of the bows bows ever designed!
Nice
Excellent. Ive been thinking about this myself for a while (back pack bow) I know there are a few available on the usual sites but im more interested in making my own , currently stalking the forests for material.
Nice! Good luck with your project and thanks for watching!
Great
Incredible
🙏🙏
I'm surprised it ends up being only 50lbs with that short bending section and 6mm efg. Props to you for another excellent build i have used several of your techniques after following your channel. Keep up the good work 👍🏻
Thanks a lot! This piece was 4mm thick, just the piece that goes into socket is reinforced and its 6 mm thick… Im glad you used some of my techniques! Good luck!
@@Helmbowman aha 4mm it looked thicker in the video. I just finished a 4mm bending bow with a strip of 3mm cut and fitted 90 degrees to the bend to make the shiya then cut and glued wood to the sides of that and wrapped with fishing line to keep together. Pretty happy with the result. About 40 lbs at full draw 31/32 inches. I use thumb draw.
@@jarchdm wow nice to here that! Fiberglass is really miracle material if designed properly!
@@Helmbowman yes indeed I started building my own bows because the ones I can get here in Indonesia all have to short draw length. Have been experimenting for a while now with fiberglass. Haven't yet tried to make a laminated bow. Maybe sometime in the future. The good thing about living here there are lots of bow makers so pretty good access to bow making materials.
@@jarchdm would you tell me detailed information of this bow? What is the limb's length? What the length of the shiya? What is the width of the fiberglass? Did you taper them? ... .
Thank you.
Looks like the perfect survival bow
Thanks! I will test it today in the forest
To be fair plastic bows are much better than wooden bows since they're already windproof and waterproof wich is actually a very big deal if ur planning on making a long lasting bow a wooden bow will never outlive a plastic one simply because it needs to be oiled constantly and if u don't oil it properly cracks will form or the bow might eventually lose its flexibility overtime meanwhile a plastic one is not only much lighter but can also reach the same amount of pounds per draw as a wooden recurve bow although thought to for kids and weak plastic bows are literally the best bows out there however for survival?You don't really need to waste space and keep a bow in ur backpack if u plan on going out there in the woods you should Carry a solid knife a hatchet or tomahawk but I prefer hatchets cuz they're more solid you also need a sort of wood working saw or u can buy a folding saw wich works just as well and doesn't take much space in ur backpack if u have there 3 tools u can pretty much build a bow extremely quickly how?Grab a bunch of straight sticks from bushes cut with ur knife or hatchet all the branches off of them until ur left with bunch of sticks bundle them up together tie them with paracord and than try making some notches for adding a bow string this method to make a bow in the wild is extremely quick and the best part is u can make a bow far stronger than traditional bows with bunch of sticks simply by adding more sticks to the bow bundle u can increase or decrease the poundage of the bow and the strength if a stick breaks or becomes a liability u can easily replace it with another one and that is extremely easy to do I think adding a portable to ur backpack is sort of unnecessary if u can make one in less than an hour
@Dav624 I agree with everything you said, bundle bow in my opinion is best bow for survival, its not as efficient and accurate as well build bow, but good enough for survival
@@Helmbowman a bow is as accurate as the user but u can say it's not as long lasting as a traditional bow or modern bow but as far as strength and accuracy? as accurate as the user and as strong as how many sticks u put in the bundle
I'd be scared to shoot those half arrows, how durable are they?
very nice
Thanks a lot!
Fantastic piece of work, amazing! What are the dimensions of the fiberglass?
Thank you a lot! Its 28cm long, 33mm wide and 4mm thick
Yea?
I have similar setup with ILF riser
A late Apache (N'De) friend was a Marine Corps sniper seconded to the CIA 500 man covert army in South Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos with 163 missions. He designed and built a collapsible bow for his missions along with his Master Gunsmith made rifle, and a Brazilian tapered blade machete. He also drilled out his bullets to pack fulminate of mercury in them. The real stuff never makes it to the movies.
Thats really interesting! People design best weapons in time of necessity…
Gday Dude. Thx for the vid. Been thinking of making a break down bow. I was thinking pvc pipe and a heat gun. I must admit though i am quite capable of doing everything you did to make this. I am now leaning toward a bit more effort for a better looking and probably longer lasting option.
Nice! I think pvc would work, or metal pipes that fits one in another, that would be very durable. Thanks for watching!
Really like the concept. Where do you get your fiberglass from?
Thanks a lot! I get it from aliexpress
Very nice creation! Wish you had felted arrow rest and rabbit fur your string for quieter shot. Really nice none the less!
Perhaps you can start selling these for other people?!
Should consider that thought o. A more serious level! $$
Thanks a lot friend! Maybe i should, but i hate working with fiberglass often 😂, we will see…
That would be the perfect bow for Agent 47
Nice! May i ask for dimensions of the glass fiber bar? Do you have a link where to buy them? Regards Kjell, Sweden.
Its 4.5mm thick, 33mm wide, i put link into description, so you can check and buy, thanks for watching!
I am curious of the draw weight. I wonder if you could use something like an old pair of ski to make the arms. I don't have power equipment but you could shapre a lot of that riser with a simple coping saw.
This bow is 50lbs, you can definitely make bow limbs out of skis, and shape riser easily with hand tools
Good power at full draw
Yeah, its fast! Thanks for watching!
What is the material that you’re using for the core of the lambs?
Limbs are made from solid fiberglass, i put the link in the description where i buy it.
Отличный результат!!!
Thanks a lot!
did the pounds drop from 50 lb after a while?
still very nice.
you can see you know a bit about archery.
Nice
Thanks a lot! Pounds did not drop, fiberglass bows never loose strength, even if they are left strung
Good stuff, but make yourself a pair of push sticks 👍🇬🇧
Thanks! I will!
Great video. Can you please tell me if i want to make new string for bow do i measure from string grove 62 inches or from limb tip?
Thanks a lot! Always measure length between string grooves and according to that length build your string
@@Helmbowman Thank you brother i appreciate you came back to me from South Africa.
@@johanhelberglongbowsknifes1185 All the best friend!
Wonderful design man. From a Bowyers perspective you should redo this project. Not for any direct mistake. But for a refinement. Take your current model. Place it on a tiller rack, and measure out your full draw. THEN, measure your string angle where the string contacts the sayah. At full draw for max efficiency it should be 60 degrees. Then make the angular correction adding or subtracting(from the video I'm going to say adding) degrees to the mount angle of your sayahs to the limb body, so the next bow has a 60° angle at full draw.
I did like how you blended western and eastern bow designs. Nice touch. However on a logistic level of two measured archers of equal years of practice. One from the east and one from the west. The archer from the east, nocking on the outside of the bow will knock and draw faster, as well as be able to utilize the additional skill of khatra(one of, or a combination of 3 movements with the bow upon the moment of release). A skill not available to archers who knock to the inside of the bow. A skilled archer with khatra can an arrow absent of the archers paradox, as well as a wider range of arrow weights and sizes that a western bow with a center cutout arrow rest can never achieve. Perhaps could attempt it though never to the degree of eastern bow. In short the western archer blames his bow and arrow for not just letting him shoot a straight arrow. The bow was in the way, that's y the arrow miss. So they made the bow larger so they can cut a hole in it. When the eastern archer just learned to move the bow out of the way..
Thanks a lot for comment! You wrote many interesting and useful stuff, i agree with everything… This bow was indeed experiment, next one will be much more refined.
NICE!...that's the kind of build I'm thinking about for my next bow... a take down recurve, I already bought the fiberglass limbs [for a 40 lib bow] mine are black, 6X30 mm, and 56 cm long [different than yours] and I bought a set of wooden [ash] riser and siyahs, and an extra riser made of nylon, and inside steel frame , thinking of using bolts to hold the limbs to the riser... I could trust the steel frame better than wood... my risers are slim, traditional... that's the kind of bows I'm shooting [I have some experience on making and using self-bows, straight long and short so far...] this time I go for a take down, short recurve bow... so any tips according to the dimensions of my limbs that I provided are welcome... I don't care much of the draw weight , this time I go for speed...
Great idea! Nothing should go wrong with that materials, good luck with that project!
If you have any difficulties feel free to ask, i will try to help
@@Helmbowman thanks!... as I said my limbs are 6X30 mm, and from what I see yours are 4X50 mm [maybe?] so how much of the length should I use? [not counting the parts that are ''fixed''... just the part that bends...] also I'm thinking about removing some material toward the tip of the limbs [1-2mm] for the flex... how's that sound?...
@user-McGiver Usually i also use 6X30mm, this was a leftover piece from another project. Yes you can taper a limbs little bit in thickness and in width toward siyahs, what length you will go for?
@@Helmbowman I'll go for as short as I can, for hunting in the forest, not long distances... but I need it to be fast, and portable...
excellent! i've been wanting a backpack bow for awhile.... with out spending a fortune..... may try making one if i can't buy one
Thanks a lot! Give it a try 😀
Nagyon szép és ügyes kiránduló holmi, ha elég ügyes vagy az ebédet is meghozza! Figyelemre méltó ! Gratulálok!
Thanks a lot! its very easy to carry on hikes. All the best friend!
Аплодирую стоя вашему мастерству и терпению, но клеить дерево на металл ..... , это что за клей у вас ???
Thanks brother! I used epoxy and CA glue, but i doesn’t glue wood to metal in this video, just wood to fiberglass, if you want to glue metal to wood you should use epoxy, just sand metal with 40 grit sandpaper, a scratch it with hacksaw blade so the epoxy can adhere well to it.
Great! 👏👏👏in my opinion the best would be a version of the Decathlon bow that can be split in half into 2 pieces, with recurves and a total length of 100 cm, possibly 45 lbs....👍👍
Thats good idea for next project 😀
I can't wait!😁@@Helmbowman
for the junction it is possible to use hydraulic fittings (steel pipe Ø 3/4" stub and
Steel pipe Ø 1" Stub) They fit together well... they should be cut at an angle so that they don't turn at the joint..@@Helmbowman
@@andreacolombesi1609 Yes, i use that a lot, i just put them into wise and smash them into oval shape so they dont rotate
This is really the bow I love. I am trying to make a similar one. I would like to know more detailed information about this bow.
Would you tell me:
1) what is the width of fiberglass?
2) what is the thickness of ash board？
3) what is the thickness of that woven fiberglass used for tenon?
4) Mortise is made of wood. Will the joints become loose after using it for a while?
5) What material did you add into epoxy to make it black?
Your help will be deeply appreciated.
Hi, width of fiberglass is 33mm, thickness of ash board for siyahs is 20mm, woven fiberglass is 1mm thick, but its not necessary to put anything on tenon, i just put it for extra security… Wood joint will not get loose if its tight fit, if tenon have room to move inside mortise than it could get looser over time, just be sure to wrap joint with fiberglass or carbon, because that is what holding it together. For epoxy i use pigment paste made for epoxy dyeing. If you have more questions feel free to ask 😀
@@Helmbowman
Thank you so much!
May God richly bless you!
@matthewyu3531 🙏🙏
One last question: Is that thin wood at 3 minutes and 2 seconds?
That is piece of thin fiberglass, its 1mm thick, but you can use wood instead of that
@@Helmbowmanthank you！
whats is fiberglass？Where can I buy this?
Its glass strands impregnated with epoxy or some other resin, very flexible and strong material… Usually i buy it from aliexpress, just type fiberglass for bow limbs
@@Helmbowman👌
where to get such folding arrows?
You can buy the inserts and make them out full length arrows.
I made this arrows, i have tutorial linked in the description
@@ike8236 I was looking for such inserts in European online stores but I couldn't find them
Zombie hunter takedown ❤
😁💪🏻
its cheaper to biy a bow brand new then it is to get the materials needed not to mention the arrows just to make this
This video is for men, not for girls
I would be interested in a bow if your into making one for sale ?
Sorry, i don’t sell for now, maybe in future
what do you used wood？
I used ash wood for bow siyahs and riser
thank you
@@Helmbowman Can this be done with pine wood?
@user-ig6jz4mv9r I never tried with pine, but i would use only hardwoods
Can I purchase a 40 lb bow from you. Thanks
Sorry, i don’t make bows for sell
👌🚩✨
🙏💪🏻💪🏻
Hi brother, I forgot to ask a question before.
Would you tell me what is the Max draw length of this bow?
I am trying to make a bow similar to this one, but this bow's limbs looks too short to my draw length.
Thank you.
Hi bro, it starts to stack after 28inches, if you want to draw past that i recommend that you put more aggressive recurves, cause this ones are really shallow
@@Helmbowman
Thank you very much.
I will use longer super recerve limbs.
Your help is deeply appreciated.
@@matthewyu3531 No problem, good luck!